The TikTok Bar Security Drama Is Actually Insane
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- čas přidán 18. 03. 2024
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As a long time subscriber, the general consensus seems to be that we wouldn’t want you to make yourself miserable for our entertainment and that you should just use your hard earned sponsorship money to do something you would actually enjoy.
Very much this!!❤
Exactly ❤
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Absolutely 👍🏽
Idk, i’m also a long time viewer and a “no” voter. I just don’t wanna see another youtuber going on a cruise that’s already full of people annoying folks tryna make the best of a vacation for video views.
If you're prone to motion sickness, for your own sake please don't go on that cruise
Exactly. It doesn't make sense for him to just feel sick the whole time.
I think this aspect is why so many ppl voted no.
Oh god no
No need to sacrifice one's wellbeing for content. This content is plenty!
I'd never have thought about doing it if I got motion sickness let alone put it upto the fate of the internet 😂 we know he made a mistake and most of us don't expect him to do it.
He should look into "sea legs" and see why even people without serious motion sickness problems get sick on boats.
I agree with the little over half that voted no: Don’t subject yourself to the dumpster fire that is world cruise.
That p.o.s. is a liar
Stop simping it's pathetic
Its not about wether I will enjoy it or not. Its more about me not wanting you to put yourself through such a level of suffering. It aint worth it mate
Same
right !
I absolutely agree with you.
Suffering builds character lol
@@Dreamsyouvageulyrember Yea but you can get that suffering for free. you dont need to go an expensive cruise to get some trauma
As a former bouncer in strip clubs and night clubs, I am immediately skeptical of any patron who being escorted out by security and claiming they don't know why. 98% of the time it's because they are too drunk to know what's going on, they are either belligerent or incoherent (or both) and they have caused a problem. Most of the time security doesn't "start" the problem but they are there to solve the problem. So I immediately have flags up when she's trying to play the victim and act like she doesn't know why she's being treated the way she is.
I'm the opposite. Ive encountered the worst type of bouncers and now I'm petrified of them. They used to sexually harass women waiting in line, touch their bums as they walk by etc. One tried to get my cousins bf to hit her. One blocked me from leaving with the group I was with. They knew I was now on my own and vulnerable
I asked why and just grinned at me. I was petrified. They only let me out when the police turned up as someone had called them. I know there are good ones out there , unfortunately I'm too scared to go anywhere atm so ive never met them
Yeah. I had been escorted from a bar only once and I remember *exactly* why twenty years later. If only because I remember drunkenly berating my ex friends the entire time and getting a cab home for the first and only time.
one my ex gf brother was head bouncer and can tell this cause dude hit me for no reason even though I wasn't supposed be in club i was underage but besides the point dude was disrespectful other people I can tell you this dude got beat up outside off cameras so don't say don't do stuff off cameras when ya do
@@CyanideSunshinesI don’t believe anything you said
Why do neither of them say why her and her friend were kicked out in the first place? It's very unclear. You would think even if the victim doesn't say why, the establishment would say why in the lawsuit
I just watched the full footage on law and crime and she is 100000% lying her ass off!! She got kicked out, threw a tantrum, and now she made this ridiculous accusation. I hope they win their lawsuit against her. This is pathetic and disgusting. She walked down those stairs and out that door calmly on her own. Zero distress at all.
If she had been "pushed" down the stairs why isn't she disheveled, flustered or her friend freaking out over it.
I'm also questioning her description of the 2nd time she was pushed down the stairs. She says she was scared, so she pushed back. Huh? If you're scared of a person behind you, you move away faster. It sounds like she was ready to fight.
my thoughts exactly! She is going down the stairs so calmly. It's not logical.
And the way she talks about it, like does she get pushed around often cause she didn't seem too upset retelling the story. Usually when someone gets to the "upsetting" part of a story they get upset a little themselves. And if it was all so violent they sure are all walking so casually.
Right! And if that happened why didn’t people come running up the stairs having heard her scream or cry out? 2 minutes could have elapsed while the 2 girls tried to argue with the bouncer about being kicked out. When they are coming down the stairs at the end they just seem a little sulky. Not injured or concussed?
@@katieevans6614 if she was drunk that would explain it. Drunk people are notorious for being hard to subdue. They just get back up and keep swinging.
also "moving on with her life" in a legal document is crazy and I cackled
Same lol. Very odd sentence. I'd think it would be more along the lines of "would like to put this incident behind her" or something similar.
Reminds me of a lawyer calling Janette Braun an "alleged social media attorney" 😂
😂😂
While I agree that there are some missing minutes in the video, there is no way anyone is going to convince me that this girl was grabbed up several times, snatched up by the front of her shirt, manhandled, pulled or jerked by her bag, and thrown down a flight of stairs in the span of 2 minutes and somehow she managed to completely gather her composure and act like nothing happened. Let us pretend she has a concussion and she's catatonic at that moment, that doesn't explain her friend acting so calmly as if nothing happened either.
They showed two entirely different girls in the footage though, an entirely different outfit with different length and colour hair
Also there’s more footage that hasn’t been shared of other stairs
They showed a different pair of women in the second it alf of the video. The clothing and and hair don't match. So it's not just 2 minutes, it's likely more because they didn't show all of the footage of the incident.
2 min. gap of time to descend 8 steps?
Suspicious.
@fernthegreenfairy did they though? Nightvision makes things look different colors than black and white footage.
The second camera is night vision, which is why the top looks like it's a different color.
Oh my gosh, that is so right. I have a dark blue blanket on my bed, and when my home security cameras (really they're for spying on my black cat when I am not there hehe) switch to night vision, the blanket becomes a very light silver color. During the day, when the cameras are in color, the cat blends right in with the blanket. But when the cameras switch to night vision, I can very clearly see her. That makes so much sense!
Yup!
Why doesn’t her jacket change colour though?
@@stephaniesanderson9638 I don't know the science of it, but I know a few other more knowledgeable people than i throughout the comments explained how the IR cameras work. They'll be helpful in explaining. ☺️
@@stephaniesanderson9638because different materials reflect the specific wavelength that these cameras use in a different way. Black for example can show up either as black, grey, or as white, depending on the material.
The night vision cameras work by detecting infrared radiation. They have infrared lights on them which are invisible to our eye. The shade of black and white is determined by how much surfaces are either reflecting the IR light from the camera or emitting their own Infrared radiation.
People's skin will appear lighter because we emit IR radiation. Black jeans will still appear black because they're absorbing the IR light. Where as an black satiny, polyester top would reflect the IR light therefore appear lighter to the camera.
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THANK YOU!!! I was looking for this comment
this is really quite helpful actually ! thanks for explaining
I was about to say, I used to have a night vision video camera and it’d make my dark, dark brown eyes pale as heck and it was definitely still me. 🤣
Came here to say something similar.
It's definitely not about our entertainment, it's more about your safety and comfort. I don't think it is worth it. You will be miserable and uncomfortable and I don't think any of us actually want you to endure that just for the sake of entertainment.
This!
Might just be me, but if you tell me you were pushed and went "flying down" them I'm thinking , they pushed you with so much force that your feet left the ground. That you did not gain footing / were not able to stand till you got to a landing or to the actual bottom of the stairs. But I'm also thinking you're going to be in A LOT of pain, a lot of bruises, maybe broken / fractured bones.
I want to know how someone goes “flying down the staircase” and somehow then gets pushed again. Didn’t she already “fly” down the stairs?
Drunk people often fall without their bodies having time to become tense. They still get injured but maybe not as much as someone who tries to save themselves. Picture the way someone extends their arm to catch their fall and ends up breaking a wrist from the impact. Also, drunk people may not feel the physical pain from injuries until they start to sober up.
I’m not saying that this is evidence that she’s telling the truth, but it’s not evidence that she’s lying either.
I fell down a flight of stairs in 2020 as a result of low blood sugar (I’m diabetic) and floppy socks (it was January) on a wooden staircase. I only bruised my tailbone and injured some muscles in my back, but was otherwise fine. I decidedly “flew” down the stairs as my foot went out from under me Looney Tunes style and I proceeded to skip off the front edge of the stairs with my posterior like a rock skipping on a pond. Exquisitely painful… but no broken bones or concussions. And it took me some time to get up afterwards as I was in a lot of pain and shock.
Don’t read too much into common turns of phrase.
Her getting lawyers to make a statement saying the bar was lying sounds like she was gearing up to sue them for physical harm, so it was a smart move for the bar to sue her first for slander
I 100% believe the restaurant.
When girls are out for a fun night and they shut off and asked to leave? They can be extra bitchy.
I can guarantee she thought she'd go viral for this, never suspecting the restaurant would file a defamation lawsuit against her.
I think the video blows up her claims. Even if she was injured without camera footage...she sauntered down the stairs, chit chatting with her friend and strolled out the door.
Is that how you'd behave if you were dragged by the arm and thrown down a flight of stairs? No.
You can’t make a video like that not expecting the restaurant/ workers to see it. She made her video knowing it would get attention (that’s what a ton of people do when they feel ignored by the business or are trying to warn others about a person/place) I can’t think of a single influencer who started their career by making up allegations against a business and gained a following based off that. What would this girl really gain from making it up for a vid?
As a person who’s been physically removed from clubs, i gotta at least point out that, yeah… that’s how a lot of people would react. Like you either have to brush it off and focus on being chill or risk just LOSING it. I’ve been reasonably removed and gotten extremely angry and i’ve been removed for no reason by racism and “sauntered” off
I wouldn't even get back up, i feel like lol. I do squats for about two minutes and I'm not moving for a whole week. Also, if i was grabbed and thrown as she said, i would still have the bruises. Why not show any of the bruises? Quite interesting that she wore a long sleeve shirt so we couldn't see if there was or wasn't a bruise
People are just too ready to blame the victim. The security footage is suss as shit.
@@hopegold883why would we believe her when there's so much evidence against her?
She probably tripped walking home and thought she could get clout by saying it happened at the club.
She absolutely just fell down and hurt herself while high and wanted to blame the bar that kicked her out earlier in the night. I guarantee if anything medical comes out it’s going to be timestamped for much later in the night
Exactly my thoughts. I was curious as to whether we would get the time she checked in to the ER.
I’ve been thrown down a flight of stairs by a bouncer when I was younger, and I just ended up going back in the same club later in the night. She’s a bit dramatic like :/
@@mistypuffs ??? MATE??? I think you _underreacted_
@elvingearmasterirma7241 literally though huge under reaction That's not something someone should just brush off unless they were so drunk they didn't actually feel the pain...? Damn 🤣
@mistypuffs girl youre wildd
The security footage at the stairs looks like it's in night vision due to how dark the bar is.
In my vehicle I have a baby camera to see my baby while in the carseat. My carseat is completely black, but the sunshade cloth of the carseat looks pale gray while in night vision. So although the entire carseat is black, the different types of cloth used comes out as different colors while in night vision. I suspect that is likely the case for the security footage at the stairs.
😂😂the fact influencers don't expect people or businesses to clap back when being slandered is absolutely hilarious to me and im here for the evolution of how influencers are treated😊😂
I agree don’t put yourself through that hell cruise just for us. There’s already plenty of povs from there and they all seem miserable (unless they’re thriving off the other passengers’ misery lol)
This. Risking him hurting himself isn't worth it
Black fabric often looks white on night vision/low light infrared cameras. It interacts with materials very differently than visible light
My problem with the last statement from the lawyers is that she had no problem with people rushing to conclusions when the bad guys were the bar. Now, she wants people to not rush to conclusions. I'm sorry, what?
At least Janet’s not involved in this IL lawsuit. 😂
I honestly like the way you inform on "drama". Too many drama channels make videos on subjects they've done very little research on, but you're giving context in the situation and withholding judgement and mainly laying out the allegations.
Yesss I hate it when I have to deep dive into a bunch of tiktoks or look at a bunch of comments to get all the details most CZcamsrs don’t research
If it's the same girl: To have been pushed down a flight stairs *allegedly* she was walking fine in the footage.
If anything, it looked like she just stumbled a little down the stairs
I was pushed hard and fell and hit the back of my head against a metal tap as a kid. I walked fine, even ran fine, but I sure wasnt doing fine.
i still have the dent
I slipped down three steps, and I was limping, but maybe my body aint as strong as yalls. I was also referring to her demeanor. Like, according to her, this man just snatched her out of a bathroom mid piss and threw her down a flight of stairs, and she was not in any rush to leave. But everyone reacts differently, as clear from me hobbling away when I bussed my ass on three steps, so we will have to see how it plays out.
@@TaylorX3 It can also depend on how you land. Ive seen people roll their ankles from stepping slightly wrong on a flat floor and other times there are people who survive falls that should have been deadly due to landing just right. And so and so on.
The human body is... Well it sure is something.
And then you factor in shock, the way adrenaline can numb pain, the delayed response we can have mentally and physically etc. It can get complicated.
@@TaylorX3 Also. I hope the fall didnt hurt too much afterwards
From a full flight to three steps, falling down stairs is not a fun experience. _Especially_ if theyre concrete or stone steps. That hits different
Last time i fell down some stairs i was limping around like i got beat up by gravity. The lady in the video just sauntered through the hallway and down what is supposedly a 2nd flight of stairs without so much as a limp.
If you fell down some stairs youd be grabbing the rail down the next set you saw, especially if the ones that pushed you down the first set of stairs was still behind you.
Night vision cameras will invert the colors of everything and it's in shades of grey also.
That's not true. The light skin tones remained light and dark hair remained dark. That's not inverted.
@@joan1609 pigmented colors can retain their tones to a certain extent in IR. A black t-shirt looks white because the base cotton reflects. The dye that makes your shirt red, black, or whatever is transparent and so isn’t visible.
@@annelisez Yeah the change in tone is due to the amount of reflected infrared light from different materials. It's not inverted.
@@joan1609 i apologize for not saying they appear inverted but everyone else knew what I meant, I know you did as well.
@@annelisez Except the colors literally don't "appear" inverted. Otherwise, the dark colors would all look light and the light colors would all look dark. I didn't expect you to double down lol
Color camera and Night vision camera can be the same people, the color change between the two cameras can happen due to material or how the color is made that dyed the clothing. The higher red color, the darker a clothing can be on night vision/inferred. Two camera's can even show differences like the Grey/Blue dress. As a business that's open at night, they would buy better equipment for night vision/inferred.
I just made the same comment... I clearly should have scrolled further than I originally had. 😂
Here’s the thing. If this had happened off camera and she was as shocked and injured and outraged as she says she was, would she just be calmly walking down the stairs?
Not unlikely. Compliance is not an unusual trauma/stress response.
What I find interesting about the "if this happened off camera" is her description of where staff assaulted her lines up with the small only place that is off camera and they were there for 2 and a half minutes.
@@conor9966 She is clearly lying lol Your armchair psychology is also meaningless.
With her hands in her pockets, not exhibiting any kind of injuries or fear of the man behind her who supposedly shoved her twice down the stairs. The math ain’t mathing.
I don’t believe her.
Like someone else said, compliance can be a trauma response, she might’ve just wanted to get out of there as quickly and easily as possible. The bar’s explanation of there being a gap between the cameras makes no sense tho. “It’s only like 8 steps” but there’s a 2 minute difference?? In what world does it take 2 minutes to walk 8 steps?? It’s very suspicious that the 2 minute gap happened right where there were no cameras and exactly where she claimed the abuse happened without her knowing where the cameras were/weren’t at. Honestly that time difference paired with the space between cameras not being that big is what makes me believe her. But we won’t know until it goes to court so ig we’ll just have to wait and see
@@KassieR329but there’s no footage of her being pushed down the stairs which is the main point she kept talking about. so what are yall talking bout this “blind spot” she literally says she was dragged and pushed down the stairs
This is definitely just a fake story from a drunk and high girl. She got too blasted made up a fake story because she was mad at the bar for not letting her do drugs in the bathroom.
Does she not have a house? Can’t she do drugs in her own bathroom?
@@rainbowfranklinI guess you’ve never been into a dive bar bathroom 😂. Most uppers highs don’t last long especially blow. If someone has some they will be in the bathroom every 20-30 minutes railing a line.
@@codedestroy680 So I have to drive back to the drive bar every 20 minutes to do another line? That’s no fun. I think I’ll sit this one out.
I’d be willing to be her thing is Adderall.
@@rainbowfranklinnever said anything binds people to have to go to a dive bar to do it just that it’s commonplace for it to happen there. She was already there drinking and getting high so she used the closest bathroom to her to get even higher. Let’s try using some critical thinking.
This situation sounds like a mess. For her sake, I hope Julia isn't lying because this business has cameras. I'm curious why Julia didn't think to take photos of the bruises (if I was her and the story was true, I would have taken photos and/or taken a selfie video to show injuries). I hope she didn't embellish a story just for TikTok fame, cuz there was literally nothing for her to gain aside from that...
What makes me not believe her is that even with some footage missing. She is still caught in a lie. She said they grabbed her pants down and dragged her out, manhandled her and pushed her down the stairs. They obviously did not drag her out - she is walking down the hallway calmly fully dressed. So if you lie about one thing here why would we believe you about the other 🤷🏼♀️
That first clip isn’t her. The bar themselves captioned it being her roommate. There is no footage they show of her in that hallway or leaving the building just down the last bit of stairs. Also all three girls are wearing completely different outfits.
Its probably just a color issue from a night vision camera. Black can appear as either black or white depending on the dye used and its uv refractive index
The bar situation seems like a tough one. You’d think if she’d been thrown down the stairs as violently as she said she was she wouldn’t just be calmly walking out at the end? Especially with their only being a 2 minute gap, if being thrown down the stairs violently enough to cause a concussion I feel like it would be tough to calmly walk down another flight of stairs less than 2 minutes later? I guess we’ll see how this goes down in court! We live in a sue happy world, so it’s hard to know whether this is exaggerated or entirely true. The video footage makes it even harder. I got a concussion once from being hit on the back of my head with a mallet, and I couldn’t even stand up straight for a few minutes, let alone walk down a flight of stairs calmly without falling down. Obviously everyone is different and handles injury different, but this just seems off.
Definitely on the side of the bar. It is definitely possible the bodyguards were nasty to her and her friend and maybe even rough with her, which is wrong of course. But being manhandled out of a bar is different than being thrown down the steps. We all know how fast drunk people can get aggressive
There being 2+ minutes of footage missing is wierd tho lol. Not saying that means shes right I'm just saying it's odd.
100%
For all we know she could have fallen on the sidewalk and received her injuries that way. I've witnessed drunk friends do the exact same thing. The one I remember the most is where one drunk friend tried to get another drunk friend to give her a piggy back ride. It didn't end well 😮
I appreciate how clear you are about trying to be objective and giving factual information. It’s hard to do when you’re presenting situations like this. There is nothing wrong with you having a take, but I like that you’re giving the viewer the space to make up their own mind.
Only real power a bouncer has is calling the cops and protecting people when others act agressive first. They can still be subject to assult, battery, ect if they touch you. I used to work security at a bar and they told us that the main thing we can do is stand inbetween people that way if they try something we are hit first then we can go hands on to restrain.
The cruise drama is fun to watch, but I don't think it's going to be fun to be a part of!
I’d advise against the cruise, just for your own wellness and safety.
Love your videos regardless!
Edit: different types and brands of cameras show clothing differently depending on the quality, infrared, etc. I’m almost 100% sure it’s the same girls. The second clip was in night vision, where dark clothing often looks light, because the infrared is reflecting the cotton materials, not the dye of the fabrics.
Don’t go on :) We love your coverage - no need for you to go on :)
My General Manager once got drunk at the bar and after being asked to leave she fell over the edge of the garden.
She also retained a lawyer and attempted to sue the business for her own drunken ignorance. This story seems to have a similar feel.
Bud, we're here because we love your content and your personality. We really don't want you to go through that garbage. Save an experience like that for folks like those already aboard. They deserve each other.
Ohhh ok you’re just nasty to everyone. Good to know. 😁 you have a big issue with telling people what they can and cannot do. You think you’re superior. And yes I read your other comments because I had a feeling I wasn’t the only person you treated like this. Get some help bro.
A person who has taken a hit to the head and is intoxicated can easily feign, even unintentionally, a concussion. The medical records will be interesting. As someone whos worked in the security industry, terrible guards exist but the footage already appears to refute 75% of what she said. She isn't being manhandled down the hall and she wasn't shoved down the second flight of stairs. I think she had bruised pride, probably fell inside rhe bar prior to removal due ro intoxication, and is now getting back at them for "embarrassing her".
If you genuinely don't want to go, then dont. We'll watch either way Markie
She was a drunk girl who got kicked out now having a fit cause she embarrassed herself. I can bet my life on
I am on the side of the bar. I believe the bouncer did manhandle her, but I do not believe she was thrown down two flights of stairs. She would have more than a bruise on her head and arm.
I've fallen down (non-carpeted) stairs multiple times in my life without having any bruises after. The fact that she was busted up means *something* happened.
@joan1609 She was wasted and probably fell somewhere else. The girl is already a proven liar since she didn't fly down the stairs, so anything she says on the situation is taken as unreliable. She might fully believe her story if she was wasted enough but the evidence isn't adding up with her story.
@@jessierabbit I'm not saying she was pushed or even fell down the stairs for sure. I'm just saying bruises mean something definitely happened because plenty of painful incidents don't even leave a mark.
Which would be an issue for them if the bouncer did manhandle her as they can't do that and supposed to call the police if they want someone removed
@@joan1609 I'm not saying you agreed with that claim she made. I'm saying she made that claim and it has video evidence of being untrue. It is precedent that she is an unreliable narrator. Intentional or not. She went to the hospital so she was injured somehow but there is no evidence that happened at the establishment. She is the one claiming that and again she is an unreliable narrator.
as a former security guard a 2 min gap on 8 stairs is quite odd. as for the two camera's i myself had look different and seen clothes have diff color that do to the quality and pixies of the camera. thu having a higher quality on the second floor and a lower one on the first and that gap i don't think both stories match up. but as for man handling very not caring guards can attack a person if they know where the gaps are and act text book once in camera view. the best thing i can say is. this would go down to if her injuries match her complaint to see what happened those 2 mins .
I LOVE that you're even willing to go on the cruise FOR US, you're genuinely the best. I love it. dON'T DO IT HAHA not because it wouldn't be enjoyable, I would definitely enjoy it! I think though it would be at your expense, literally and metaphorically, because you're gonna suffer a lot for a lot of money :( I would enjoy anything you post, you're my comfort CZcamsr. But definitely don't go into debt for it or anything.
Right. If you have not been on the ocean before in a boat and might have boat sickness-don’t do it for us!! I don’t get sick all the time on boats, but if the weather is rough or there is a certain wavelength, if you get me, it is absolute HELL.
Did anyone notice her lawsuit states she had a concussion but the police report the newspaper comments on says NO concussion was reported. Being a common thing ems and hospital staff deal with her lawsuit is losing credibility in my eyes.
When did she actually go to the bar and when did she film the original Tiktok? I feel like if it was a few days that have passed, if the injuries were as serious as stated... wouldn't we still see them? Couldn't she show them off? She looks remarkably well for somebody who was thrown down stairs twice but I don't know the timeline!
I realize she's very young, but when someone says "it was the craziest experience I've ever been in" when talking about getting kicked out of a bar, and if you totally take her word for ir roughly kicked out of a bar but not roughly to the degree she was actually injured. (if that is the case I'm not defending it!). What I would give for getting kicked out of a bar to even make the list of crazy/ awful things that that had happened, even by 21.
Yes safety first. I dont think you need to go all the way to China for this cruise madness. There will be other opportunities for an adventure soon I'm sure.
While there may be evidence she was injured, there is no evidence yet as to WHERE she was injured.... she left a bar drunk, high, or both.....
Its a testiment to the loyalty of your following, setting your health and your safety before all entertainment. I also agree that you should not go, if I were to worry I cannot imagine what the loads of your followers would be feeling.
I love how you truly try to stay unbiased until you have as much info as possible. You're fair with your judgements. It shows a lot of character and honor.
Love that the cruise brought me to this channel months ago, such good content
One question I have, before I even see the footage of the bar, so she claimes that she's been pushed down stairs and "sent flying" down stairs multiple times and yet there are no visual injuries? No bruises on her face or hands, no lacerations from her face hitting stairs, the floor or a railing just nothing that would indicate that she's been injured at all and somehow all her nails are fully intact after that happening. So far I am not convinced...
Even if the area that they where "manhandled" wasn't show, If someone tryes to punsh shove or manhandle me, I do not walk out of the establishment so calm and collected. I would call the police then and there. Obvioulsy she did not have any injuries when walking down the stairs and even though I do not know the layout of the bar, somehow I doubt that it has like 5 sets of stairs to walk up and down on for her to be thrown down. I do not know why she is lying, maybe she didn't like that they called her out on her drug use and she thought she get back at them, junkies can be very dumb and honestly I do not see any other reason other than her being a junkie out for revenge.
The interesting part for me is when she walks down the stairs and out of the bar she shows no signs of injury. Nothing in either the bouncers or her behavior suggest a violent altercation, no sign of lacerations or concussion. There is an unknown gap in time between her exiting the bar seemingly fine and the time she went to hospital. In that time she could have sustained the injuries in any number of ways. Her involving lawyers, before she was sued suggests to me she was/is planning to sue the bar.
WHAT POLL!? I never saw a poll or I'd have voted yes because I want you on that ship ASAP so we can finally get some answers instead of hearsay!
Please use the cruise money to go on a relaxing holiday or treat yourself to something nice - don’t subject yourself to that awful cruise
Ditto. And if you want to make content about it, I’m completely up for a Markie relaxing vacation vlog. It’d be cool to see a throwback to the everyman vacation content rather than the TikTok influencer style shit we are inundated with now.
I worked at a local Gay bar in my area for about 5 years as a doorman (not security) just the door man that checked I.D’s, we had other employees for security detail……
I can not explain to you how many of the people we had to ask to leave were Blacked out drunk white Women.
They were literally our worst and most problematic guests.
Don’t miss-understand we did have to escort people of all gender identities out many times.
However with that being said this is simply factual,not conjecture nor hyperbolic.
The vast and overwhelming majority of the people that were asked to leave……Were straight white ladies that were plastered at the Gay bar thinking they run the place.
The ladies bathroom was always a disaster. Broken mirrors,toilets,sink handles,stall latches and once one of the sinks was ripped clean out of the wall because 2 adult women were STANDING on the sink to “Take a better selfie”.
Keep in mind….. I’m at work. I’m stone cold sober (we weren’t allowed to drink on shifts) so I’m not embellishing nor over exaggerating these facts.
I can’t even begin to tell you how many pairs of disgusting ladies under pants and sanitary products we had to remove from sinks,toilets,walls,stall doors, mirrors and floors. It was absolutely the most disgusting and embarrassing bathroom treatment I’ve ever witnessed.
Bodily fluids on the floors,Toilet seats and walls and the most repaired room in the entire establishment as it was always the ladies restroom that got destroyed…..
Which brings me to my
Point.
On THREE occasions. Count them THREE occasions I had a drunk woman either try to hit,spit on,kick or curse me out because she had to be asked to leave.
For whatever reason the women guests seem to be more combative,aggressive and belligerent.
On ALL THREE occasions my place of work was called and I was accused of similar actions.
ALL THREE times camera footage was pulled and I was immediately cleared as they were LYING!
Not just myself. Fellow coworkers were also accused (by women) of similar behavior and also immediately cleared once the camera footage revealed a range of average sized women trying to hit,kick,punch and spit on huge security and doormen.
In conclusion.
I DONT BELIEVE A WORD SHE SAYS.
Not sorry. I’ve been in this exact situation too many times to be able to believe her fully
With blind faith in her drunken memory.
If it did happen to her,I’m very sorry she was treated that way,but I’m going to need A LOT more proof before I just take the word of a drunken bar guest.
If this comment offends you that tells
Me one of two things…….
Either You’ve never worked in a bar setting and had to deal with these types of people and can’t comprehend how entitled,ignorant and sloppy people can truly be.
Or you’re the one that’s been asked to leave.
I said what I said. 🤷♂️
As someone from the Chicagoland area, this is wildly common for people to do. Many lie to try and get fame, money or a fake apology from the business. Some people just do it for fame as well. I've watched shit like this happen in real life as if there aren't cameras everywhere here.
She’s lying. The Hubbard inn does have a third floor. But her own police report says this all starts in the bathroom, which we see in the second floor footage. So she was only taken down one flight of stairs, which we see.
In the two minute gap you’d have to assume they threw them down the stairs, brought them back up, and then had them walk down.
Or, since they were originally escorted individually, they brought them together, the friend put on her jacket, which she was carrying in the first video but wearing in the second, and they or at least Julia, argued with the security guards until they got them to walk down the stairs. Julia was clearly intoxicated. Either from alcohol or drugs or both. At the bottom of the stairs she tries to go away from the exit and her friend and the security guard have to convince her to go the correct way. She may have bruises. But at this point, with how her story doesn’t align with the police report she filed which doesn’t align with the footage, it’s safe to assume she fell, perhaps after leaving the bar, because she was so disorderly and intoxicated. She blamed the bar to recover some lost pride and it’s blown up in her face.
She wants you to believe there’s some other staircase she was thrown down, which riled her up and made her yell and scream, and then she calmed down and was just acting intoxicated and confused one minute later. Nonsense.
Treat yourself to a real vacation. You earned that money, don’t waste it on a cruise that you won’t enjoy.
Im against the cruise simply because its too expensive. Big money waste. Its nice to hear about the small updates.
It’s not worth it. Don’t bother doing the cruise. You see the problems CZcamsrs are having on it. Why chance it. Stay put and just report it from home.
i can’t adequately describe the fear and foreboding i felt every time you talked about joining the cruise. that ship is either gonna sink or become Ground Zero for some sort of illness or catastrophe, and the less people on board when that happens, the better
It reminds me of the conspiracy theories that suggest the titanic was a case of insurance fraud, if I'm honest
This is so dramatic, it’s regular cruise with hundreds of guests and 1% have drama
Woah dramatic much! There’s a truck load of people on that Cruise having the time of their life 🤷🏽♀️ What makes you think it will sink? And the risk of an illness breakout is the same as any other cruise…
Having worked on ships (never cruise ships) and suffering from sea sickness it is sooo not worth it, I sometimes had to spend days in my cabin and that was even after 4 years of working on ships! I think cruise ships are designed with a bit more comfort in mind in terms of stability but even so, seasickness is horrendous!!!
The wait and see stance is the better stance especially in a situation where you don't have all the information.
Absolutely ANYONE can go to the hospital and file a police report in America. It doesn't mean anything actually happened nor does it mean someone is guilty of something. 🤷🏾♀️
As curious as we all must be about what the cruise is like, NO amount of content or entertainment is worth your health, safety, and general well-being. Especially not in a situation where you can't leave easily if things start to go truly wrong. There's already plenty of documentation and experiences from those already there. Keep yourself safe.
Ive been subscribed to you for a long time-i think the fact that most of your subscribers are putting your health and happiness and hard earned money ahead of our entertainment shows what a great content creator you are! You seem like a genuinely nice person, and its clear others think that too! You work really hard putting out mult videos a week-use your money for something that will make you happy!!
Everything on social media is backwards: people are guilty until proven innocent; if someone accuses you of something, it's not up to them to show evidence that you're guilty of what they're accusing you but it's up to you to prove your innocence...
I think it's sweet that people saying no in the poll aren't because they don't enjoy your recounts but it's because they are worried if you do go 😊
I agree, this is such a nice and fun community 😊
@@Littlemom1977 🥰
As a viewer, it's not that we wouldn't enjoy it - it could be interesting! We just don't want you torturing yourself with a trip you wouldn't like. I think a majority of us will continue to watch regardless of if you go or not. Please don't make yourself miserable!
To think that what she did has now caused her to delete everything but the legal statement... and for what? If she had genuine injuries caused by it, coudn't a medical cert and a stern request in person not via tik tok got her the justice she wanted?
That’s very common practice whether someone is guilty or not. A good lawyer will make you take down any videos you’ve made online about the topic
I think for most of us, it's not whether we want you to go on the cruise or not but whether you'd enjoy yourself on the cruise and with the things you've said previously it doesn't seem worth it. Especially how the cruise has been stating bad weather and conditions frequently, it's not worth paying so much money to make yourself sick and tired and frustrated over. If you think you'd enjoy it- then I'd love to see it! But, I agree with some of the others I saw commenting, that I'd much rather see you doing the content you want to do and enjoy doing rather than putting yourself in a position you won't like. I enjoy your coverage of the cruise the way it is and unless going on the cruise is really something you want to do there's no need to really change it. Please, just do what's best for you
If Hubbard Inn sued her. I honestly think they have the proof they need to win. A bar (especially with this going viral) usually wouldn’t file a defamation suit if they didn’t have a pretty good case. It’s insanely hard to prove defamation. So, I tend to lean towards the bar rather being innocent. 15:24 I think she may have had too much to drink and may have fallen which caused injuries. I think she exaggerated and didn’t expect it to go viral. She may very well believe something happened. I just don’t believe the bouncer’s did anything based on what we can clearly see from the video. Her lawyers also kind of elude to that being her in the video the bar posted. We shall see what happens.
Hard to say they likely also have a lot more money and a lawyer on hand to deal with legal issues that can come from a bar and patrons.
@@Ashbrash1998 yeah but they have so much more to lose by lying. I just don’t believe her after that video. If she was hurt in the 2 minute time frame. There would be signs on the videos. She wouldn’t just be calmly walking out. The whole story is very off.
as a former service worker I want to believe the establishment…but as a former service worker I also know that security & management know exactly where all their security camera blind spots are.
As someone who frequents nightclubs and runs into lots of white girls that get bounced, I do think SHE believes she was harassed and man handled but I don't think it was fully the truth to the situations. The amount of girls that scream abuse at bouncers when all they did was catch them from faceplanting after they stumbled is laughable. The number of times I have seen a girl fall down a few steps while getting kicked out and then tell the ems that got called the bouncer pushed them is also weirdly high. People in an altered mindset have an altered view and the truth is somewhere between her story and what the bar put out to the public.
i remember last vid i watched of yours i was originally thinking, "yeah cruise sounds fun lol" then you mentioned your frequent and easily got motion sickness and thought, "😬😬 lord no, youll be miserable."
Your audience wants you safe Markie ❤
Julia is giving deranged and self-entitled.
I stopped drinking at the age of 23 and I'm 30 now. And I'm not defending her. BUT security guards are like hella aggressive these days. I've seen them be really aggressive with women who are legit like 3x smaller than them and they just look for reasons to put their hands on ppl.
Finally, a defamation lawsuit that actually makes sense!
Also about getting you on a cruise: as much as I love the idea in a vacuum, reality is that you will suffer terribly on the miserable ship full of entitled people. And motion sickness will make the hell even deeper! So please, just do what's best for you ❤️
Okay, so I believe the restaurant. The only thing she was diagnosed at the ER was bruising and no concussion, but now the new TikTok says she had a concussion and lacerations? Mmmm. Not sure about that.
Lying liar caught lying but she doubles down. Sounds par for the course with these types.
I swear they just make things up, because they love to look at themselves in the screen, and love the sound of their own voice. Total narcissist behavior. Lol
I have just looked at their google reviews, I have seen many reviews that are from before this event and most of them are about how security is unprofessional, and get heated for seemingly no reason. They also seem to go very far with their "pat downs" and their searches. Not only security but staff has also been said to just be on their phones and don't seemed trained.
_hmmmm_
oh? hmmm. I wonder if other patrons of this bar who experienced something similar with the security will share their experience.
Probably not, since they would not want to get into the fray and possible legal action from the bar too.
Now that’s interesting
Honestly even if the reviews are true it doesn't mean it happened to HER! She may have just used other people's stories to get clout. Not to mention the DKWT podcast found an article SHE wrote about how people will believe anything online
@@lexyruse603 Hey at least the past reviews are now coming to light
As someone who CANNOT ride in cars (or busses, but I never ride them as I’ve got a car and live in Baltimore so 🤡) as a passenger, but is perfectly fine in boats/ships, it’s totally up to you babe!!!! DO NOT go if you think you will be sick. Yes there is things you can do to try and mitigate that, BUT DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU THINK IT WILL HURT YOU. It won’t be worth it. Just keep covering the drama from the solid ground!!!❤️😂
Agreed don't do something so expensive, stressed and drama inflicting. Just be you 😊
I WAS WAITING PATIENTLY FOR YOU TO DO A VIDEO ON THIS !!!!
Same!
😊😊@@rainbowfranklin
Anyone can go to the hospital, it doesn't prove you were injured, and it certainly doesn't prove someone else did it to you. Maybe she stumbled a bit at some point.
We’re worried about your safety with the cruise! We don’t want you to suffer on the cruise! You deserve better!
I didn’t see your poll so I went and voted. You do what you want but I absolutely want you to go on the cruise!! I’ve been excited for you to go. Sad so many people suddenly don’t want you to
if she went to the hospital and there was a report then it could be possible they manhandled her like everyone knows and you said, some bouncers think they are god and treat people with very little respect. but at the same time to be pushed twice down the stairs and your friend and you are that chill being exited out is very fishy. and yes it could be a trauma response to not react after being assaulted but if my friend was assaulted i wouldn’t be very calm after seeing that.
I am going with the bar on this one
Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus is a Latin maxim meaning "false in one thing, false in everything". At common law, it is the legal principle that a witness who falsely testifies about one matter is not credible to testify about any matter.
Absolutely obsessed with your content at the moment!
i’m glad most of the comments here seem to agree with me that it’s not worth it. that cruise is BAD NEWS and it’s not worth putting yourself in possible harms way for us.
it’s less about us enjoying the content, and more about you enjoying your time there. it doesn’t seem like ANYONE is enjoying that cruise- and you shouldn’t waste your money on something you’ll hate just for a video for us.
To address the different colored tops- in the upstairs footage, you can tell the camera is in full color/normal mode. The downstairs footage, you can clearly tell the camera is on night vision mode. I've watched enough Ghost Adventures in my lifetime to know that night vision will make a black top not look like a black top a lot of times. 😂
Zak Bagans and his crew are almost always dressed in black, and sometimes the night vision will make a piece of black clothing look white. Don't ask me the science behind it. 😅