TikTok Mortician Ruins Her Career With Disturbing Lies
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- čas přidán 29. 11. 2023
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She’s a mortician. She just prepares bodies. She isn’t a medical examiner. She’s not even a coroner. Being a mother doesn’t make you qualified on safety at all.
i know ! but she seems to want to pretend she is some forensic pathologist when she talks about knowing what types of activities cause this/that injuries or death while she doesnt have any certified medical knowledge of injuries, she just prepared bodies for burial/cremation not autopsies or forensic work or anything
She's an expert in embalming fluid but not in anything else. I mean I'd trust a crime scene investigator more than a mortician when it comes to carseat safety.
Apparently she wasn't even that, she was only an intern before she quit for social media. So she doesn't even have any fully fledged qualifications.
Yeah, she’s literally just a make up artist
@@AshChiCupcakoh my god what?? 😭😭
I will never forgive her stealing “a morbid minute” from Caitlin Doughty, a youtuber/mortician whose made so many comfortable with the concept of death and help spread the tales of the deceased who are often forgotten or glossed over. Lauren is unethical, entitled, and under-qualified and steals phrasing and ideas from actual, genuine, hard-working content creators. I give her none of my sympathy.
Yes!! You have hit the nail on the head. Caitlin Doherty really helped me so much when it came to grief and accepting it. But this Lauren just sensationalises it to a super gross point.
Its Caitlin Doughty and if you havent read her books, especially her first, YOU SHOULD!!!!
Man I love Caitlin!!
Caitlin has always been good at what she does and I really enjoy her work.
And there's no way it was accidental because Lauren has said she knows who Caitlin is
Funeral homes are a business, not a medical facility. I always thought it was weird that she spoke like she's a doctor when she has no medical training.
Social media has this thing that people think they need to know everything and if they don't, they make it up
Yeah, they get a LOT of training with the medical stuff, but still behind my wife's biology degree. Knowledgeble in what they NEED to know
I see about two of like biology/anatomy/pathology classes in the course list for the average mortuary science degree. That's about the same as any other area's degree requirement imo.
@@ArgentLeftovers lmao I definitely wouldn't say a "LOT" of training in medical "stuff". The only thing they do that is even remotely close to medical is removing fluids and injecting embalming fluid into the arteries. Doctors, PAs, nurses and researchers get a LOT of medical training. Morticians need an anatomy class.
She in there giving cpr to the bodies. She has a 0% success rate. Only way she’s a “doctor”
AskAMortician is far better, less dramatic and a creator that doesn't start drama. In fact she is funny and brings real attention to the idea and the reality of death. I adore Caitlin. I highly recommend watching her
Caitlin is THE best!!!
According to some comments, this lady stole some of Caitlin's content and passed it off as her own 😬
caitlin is AMAZING
Caitlin is awesome, and I have all of her books. I love her videos.
Absolutely adore her!
An adult caring for child safety is not p****phelia. And to throw around even the slightest accusations like this against a man is SO DAMAGING and I feel like he has grounds to sue just for that alone.
Leftists literally accuse good people of this everyday.
Depending on the jurisdiction defamation by implication can be a thing. And an accusation of p***philia is always defamation per se.
I thought tiktok mightve learned a lesson with that shit after Inquisitor... but i guess not.
@@Koolkitty_9 Or sometimes it's confession by projection.
It's so very hard to prove libel/slander.
"Just because you went to medical school for X years doesn't mean you should be giving my child surgery I'm a mother I can do it myself" that's how she sounds. Leave it to the professionals hunny
the sad part is that there are parents who would genuinely say smth like this
I wonder how she feels about vaxinations
@@Luci-pz8xxthere’s videos of her showing how she “detoxes” her kids after they get their vaccinations
Yes, the "im a mother so I know" is such BS. I have a degree in early childhood development so I do know what I'm talking about when I talk about those subjects. My experience as a parent hasn't taught me anything about raising kids, just anecdotal experiences. I know it didn't teach me anything because I've actually been taught about childhood development and I know the difference between personal experience and best practices backed by data, science, and studies run by experts. Way too many parents don't know shit about raising kids, if you need proof, just look at how many parents still spank their kids. I can't stand the "I know what's best for my kid" types, like no, people who study childhood development know what's best for your kid.
@@SkyeSoleil
I have a condition where i can't get any viruses that aren't lung related (I got a partly collapsed lung so I got COVID from hugging my friend who was recovering from it)
Despite that I never had any viruses other than COVID, I still take the vaccines because they have a domino effect on cervical and lumbar issues where they kinda lessen the pain in both and they keep my blood from clotting in my lungs
They can't explain why though I got a weird body lol
With her logic, how is she able to give facts on dead people as a mortician if she’s not dead herself? 👀
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Exactly 😂😂😂😂
No but you see she popped out two kids that immediately gives her every qualification known to man
From my research, she said that she worked for her dad, her dad’s funeral home is in Webster Wisconsin which has a population of 702. No way she saw as many insane cases as she said she did.
@avakat7233
Very good point…
Also that she was only working for like 2 years
@@lynnfromthetinit depends on the state and their apprentice requirements. In NH, they require you to embalm 50 cases and meet with/ assist with 50 families/ funerals. So she very well may have had a hand in preparation of the deceased. Apprentices in NH are allowed to do everything a licensed director can do with the exception of signing a contract and under a licensed directors supervision. Of course other states will have their own requirements
I am so sick of the “I know better than everyone because I’m a mother” narrative. I’m a mom of 2 and the oldest of 6 kids and I definitely still don’t know better than a PROFESSIONAL. Becoming a mom doesn’t suddenly unlock a whole world of knowledge magically
As a mom of two as well, I firmly believe I know NOTHING 🤣
Mom of 3 here and the only thing I know for certain is that I still have a lot to learn.
Mom of 4 here and I definitely trust professionals 🥰
Oldest of 6, mom of 4, my oldest two are full grown. And I'm still pretty sure I don't know a damn thing. Every kid has brought their own set of surprises.
yeah fr!! mothers who say/believe this seem to often be the type to use the “because i said so” argument when their kids question anything they say lol, super annoying
She was only a mortician for a year or so. She's like the wish version of Caitlin Doughty aka Ask a Mortician. She even copied Caitlin's morbid minute.
That's really shitty on her part
Especially knowing Caitlin isn't about drama and won't respond which I don't blame Caitlin
Lauren has been shitty from the get go, giving horrible advice and airing out families she’s worked with (no she hasn’t put names to anything I just don’t think you should tell the world about a families drama when their going through a very hard time cuz grief flips people on their head
I love Caitlin!!
Caitlin is an angel this lady not so much …
That goddess is above such petty squabbles. Let the peasants fight among themselves!@@thepubknight6144
My ex sent the police for a wellness check saying he thought I was suicidal over him on my birthday. Fun fact: In my state they approach with guns drawn if they get a call someone is suicidal. They came to my door as I was just finishing getting ready to go out with my friends for the night. I thought it was them as I opened the door going "Wooooo!" to see 2 guns pointed at me. They talked to me for a minute and realized I wasn't suicidal when I said "Do I look suicidal? I'm about to go out to the bar with my friends for my birthday." They apologized but it was messed up.
I'm sorry you went through this
That sounds so very traumatic.
I hope things are getting better for you.
@@alexandrapettibon4575 Oh, I'm fine. I was just mad at him for doing that.
@@TheOfficialTarynTots wow, what a disgusting and horrible thing to do to someone out of spite. That could have gotten you killed. I’m sorry that happened to you and I’m glad you were able to deescalate things and convince them you were fine.
@@batacumba Well, me opening the door going Wooo! was embarrassing but I think they realized I was in a good mood and clearly not expecting the police.
Happened to me that way too But they tackled me, I was drugged and woke up in a mental ward telling them he was an abuser trying to steal my daughter from me. Still traumatized to this day
I stopped watching her when I saw a video of her talking about the essential oils she feeds her children after they get their school district mandated vaccines to “detox” them
she’s gotta be dumb,,,,,, even if the vaccines WERE poison, her orange juice essential oils wouldn’t do anything 😭😭
💯 so much for child safety advocate filling her kids with concoctions that can cause very real and very serious side effects.
I AM a mortician of over 20 years, and Lauren's early TikToks used to say "I used to be a mortician but I left the field." And in one she mentioned she left the field b/c of both family and it not being her thing. Yet...amazingly....here she is. And then she started making these "family dramas" she said happened--and in my 22 years of doing this, I've had maybe FIVE situations total similar to these in very high volume funeral homes....how did she have over 30 in like 4 years? Shady, shady, shady.
If everyone you meet is an asshole, you are the ass
I am not a mortician, but I work for a church and assist with funeral planning and I can confirm that sort of drama is rare in my experience as well. Again, it’s not exactly the same, but still
it's not shady at all. it's par for the course for most every youtube channel out there. People just make up content. 70%+ of content filmed 'in the wild' and stories told on this platform are made up or staged. Welcome to youtube.
She was probably a morticians assistant for a short period of time so thinks she knows it all now
@@charlespancamo9771 We’re talking about a TikTokker. Much, much worse than CZcams.
At what point do we just admit that a wellness check is swatting for non-gamers
Exactly! Along with stalking. Because of including her mother's address and such.
Thank you 👏🏼 “wellness check” for someone you have NO relationship with, IMO, is endangering that persons safety.
Yes
I have noticed this as well, I suggested doing a wellness check for someone at school that just disappeared with no contact and everyone looked at me like I had 5 heads. Then I had a friend whose ex husband called a wellness check on her to intimidate her and I got it.
this is so accurate. so had a wellness check done on me a couple of months ago and it was so incredibly distressing and violating.
Everyone in her comments on TikTok is saying “I have no idea what’s going on but I’m on your side” which just proves how good she is at manipulating the narrative.
Ive seen a woman convince people that mountain dew cans are predicting natural disasters. I think that site just kills brain cells.
Her fan base is so toxic
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Its sad tbh..
It also proves how stupid people are.
It is ENTIRELY inappropriate to send the police over for a “wellness check” when you have no genuine concern. Considering how these visits can turn into deadly confrontations, this should carry the same penalties as making a false report.
Jeanette is extremely condescending and unprofessional.
In many states, you can be disbarred for making a false statement to police or colluding with your client to commit a crime; however, it might be that "wellness checks" might be a loophole, because you're just expressing your "concern", not making a formal statement or accusation. A lot of states still don't have anti-doxxing legislation, so I could see this being the case
That person most definitely isn’t an attorney and deserves to be charged
It's harassment and abuse, but even worse, she is wasting tax money to send the police to harrass people, AND it takes those resources from someone who ACTUALLY needs it. What happens when a lunatic starts shanking kids with a sword, and the police are at someone's house harassing them because AN ATTORNEY in all of her stupidity and vile wretchedness decided to try to harass someone on the intranet.
I would 100% trust the certified safety guy with no kids over the mum with no qualifications in the field other than "i grew a tiny human in my body"
Yeah this idea that a parent just naturally becomes enlightened and learns everything about child care after having one out of nowhere is really weird to me
This video really brought out r/childfree didn’t it? :eyeroll:
I trust his opinion fully I just feel some car seats while safe are too complicated for the worse case scenario of a sleep deprived parent. But he's still right on them being safe I just think they could be improved on. I'd let him go to the store buy a random car seat for my car for s hypothetical child and install it before I even considered asking her opinion
@@ChaosMaiden2I have kids, and, uh, I don't see this as anti-parent rhetoric. But, whatdoIknow, I'm just one person with kids.
@@ChaosMaiden2 Hi! Mother here, and no. Being a mom absolutely does not automatically make me qualified in safety or mental health. It means I -SHOULD- look further into things to keep my child safe, but as someone who has been kicked out of many mom groups for begging people not to follow woo bullshit so their kids don't get sick and die, alas that is not always the case. Kids don't come with manuals (although that would be FUCKING AMAZING) so everybody who has been a parent, or an older sibling turned into a parent figure, or a family member turned caretaker, or a foster or adoptive parent, or a stepparent, or a chosen family really is just doing the best they can day by day to do right by each other. We have enough shit going on and need to listen to experts on medicine, science, and safety.
its disgusting that she tried to use the stereotype that gay men are creepy towards kids to try and save her reputation. she should have just sat down and let the expert talk but noooo, she popped out a baby so she knows better. give me a break.
Thank you!! That is such a disgusting old homophobic trope.
She didn't mention anything about him being gay in her post about him.
@@DoorsToHideBehind156are you transphobic/homophobic or/and are you coming out?
@@DoorsToHideBehind156critical thinking skills.
Not to mention that most of the gay men that I know don’t like kids they tolerate children but prefer dogs or cats
I used to be a CPST like Jamie. Im so glad he spoke out about that. Car seats are tested SO much and Laurens opinion means nothing on that seat.
He said in the video that they don't test them for safety... They just received a pass or fail. Since you were a CPST maybe you can clarify what he meant. It was super confusing. How are the car seats tested?
@@ravenprice6112he means CPSTs don’t do the testing themselves, but NHSTA engineers and researchers do, as they are trained and equipped to do it.
Just as a correction to the timeline, the Facebook post implying Jamie is a pedo was made MONTHS after the initial incident. Jamie had moved on and wasn't talking about her at all, and she kept bringing him up unprovoked to start drama again.
Sounds like Jaime needs to file a defamation lawsuit
I literally just learned about her being problematic LAST NIGHT. Her referring to herself as a mortician is a bit of a stretch, and as a trauma MD myself, her referring to herself is a “child safety expert” is a huge fucking problem.
what is MD
@@helixxia9320it usually means medical doctor?
i'm confused. does that lady embalm bodies and such? what does she actually do for work, do we know?
@@_sunchilddLauren? She’s a stay at home mom.
She just recently quit and became a stay at home mom after hee socials took off... she quit her body stuffing job to do social media
Oh my god, wtf. She basically called this guy a pedo for no reason. "WHOA, isn't it weird that this guy has all this knowledge about child seats," no, it's his thing online. Everyone has that niche, some are popular, some aren't. Yours was knowing what went on in Morgues, how would you feel if people accused you of being a necrophile?
I was with her for a minute there. All she needed to say was, "It's probably safe, but it doesn't feel too user friendly. It's a bit confusing for me to set it up, but I don't know, make your ow opinions about it."
Edit: "You and I are not on a first name basis," Jesus Christ, this sounds like somebody watched one episode of Better Call Saul and thought that lawyers acted like this.
This 100%
Like did she imply that anyone involved in the design, development, testing and certification of items to be used by children have to be parents, while simultaneously implying that becoming a parent automatically makes you an expert about such intrinsic subjects such as accident safety that involve physics, anatomy, material knowledge, etc?
Oooh, well said👏She went so over the line she's not even coloring on the page anymore
People toss around things like narcissist, pedo and psychopath/sociopath way too freely.
@@ThatAtheist sometimes it is obvious but here she is truly just grasping. for any 'leverage' against people who disagree with her
As a daycare teacher, I am more qualified to talk about child safety than she will ever be 😂😂😂
To be honest, I think it’s ethical for him to link product recommendations in the description. He’s the certified professional who is legally and ethically bound to recommend safe products for children to their parents. He is doing his job, and he’s actually being very clever about it because he can reach more people, and hopefully he reaches someone who doesn’t know how to choose the correct safe products for their kids. Power to him, I hope he doesn’t let this shake his nerve.
She also claims to be present at accidents which never happens, the role of a mortician does not include going anywhere near accident sites. And she has done a video about telling loved ones someone has passed. Again, not her role. A mortician simply prepares the body for burial, this woman basically pretends to be a forensic doctor and she definitely is not. She likes to act like she performs autopsies which is ludicrous.
That's so bizarre because she has NOTHING to do with the emergency field at all. She's supposed to be stuck at the funeral home it's not a field job
Yeah she’s talked multiple times about telling somebody that their loved one has passed, telling mothers their children have passed, etc. Which always made me wonder because, by the time the deceased person gets to a mortician…wouldn’t their immediate family already know they had passed? 😅 Like they didn’t bring a live person to a funeral home and hire a mortician because they think the person is going to get better Lmao.
That’s when I stopped following her. No way is it her job.
@@charleyrenee6248in smaller towns like mine, my boyfriend who is a mortician, goes and picks up bodies from houses and hospitals as well, most morticians do this in smaller cities and towns, however they do NOT know the person is dead before the family does. The police immediately call next of kin after they have made sure EMT’s are on scene. The morticians only get a call from the answering service afterwards and then through them will receive the next of kin’s info to call and set up arrangements. So ya, she’s totally lying about telling people their family members died, only the police and medical professionals are qualified to do that.
@@Ashbrash1998 Funeral directors can do body removal, but only in places like hospitals, hospice, nursing homes, homes etc. Not anywhere that would require forensic investigation.
This is like saying "I wouldn't trust a pediatrician who doesn't have any kids, especially since they get paid when they treat my child". Makes no sense
Plus she should also apply her logic to her trans phobia. She, a bisexual cis woman, can't comment on trans people and the community, nor can a gay cis man, since they aren't specifically trans
“I wouldn’t trust a lawyer who isn’t a felon themselves”
Hmmmm I refuse to go to a male gynecologist.
As a mother, I'd trust the person who is literally an expert in car seat safety.
Right?? As a mother, I appreciate the people who design, test, and control what products I use for my baby. I'm so grateful we have these professionals and the standards they work to uphold.
I feel like there should be place to sign on your baby's birth certificate that says "I acknowledge and agree that me having a child does not make me a qualified professional in medicine, nutrition, psychology, education, engineering, food or drug safety, or any other field my child may at any point be affected by"
Like I said on the illuminaughti video, her sending the wellness check was a passive aggressive way of saying “I know where you live” which is a threat
Yeah, it was like ssniperwolf going to visit jjacksfilms house to "talk like adults" its a freaking stalk & dox combo
Not to mention people are regularly injur d during wellness checks if the do actually have mental health problems or are neuro divergent and don't respond well to the police when they show up
@@maysee2515lmao was literally going to say that
@@maysee2515
That's literally what my ex said to me while sitting at my front door screaming
It is very much a threat yes
That letter can't be from an attorney registered with the BAR association. The level of unprofessionalism, the accusations and derogatory statements would make her eligible for BAR review of her law license if someone reported her.
NO WAY an attorney wrote that "cease & desist".
That was my thinking as well. The unprofessonalism, the grammar, etc. Nothing about this screams "amazing lawyer."
'heed this trigger warning' like what🥲😂
Unless they're handing out free law degrees in special edition boxes of wheetos, that is....!?!
(If you ask me, at best she used to clean the toilets of some law office and thought that made her an attorney by osmosis or something like that.... Or guzzled a LOT of "genuine lawyer jizz" before she resembled such a thoroughly slapped arse, maybe...?!?!) 🧌🤡🙄🤦
Yeah the shit about "you claim you're playing chess and I'm playing checkers, but you're actually playing twister" there's no fuckin way an actual lawyer wrote that in official correspondence.
Ya, and I've seen so many proper legal documents that I have to sign, prepared by my lawyer to know that was a fake and via email? Those are supposed to be mailed to your address. Was there a legit stamp and seal of the lawyer, was it notarized? That's why it needs to be on hardcopy. Plus the "cease and desist" was completely informal in writing. It just sounds like it's more of an angry email than anything. Like zero technical writing in it, which a legit legal letter or document is technical writing and not novel. That fake motician is unhinged.
I honestly hope someone’s contacted the Bar Association concerning this “attorney”. Because if she is in fact a real attorney then her actions need to be investigated and taken seriously. You can’t weaponize the legal system just because you don’t like someone or because someone did something you didn’t like to ur friend.
100% completely inappropriate behavior!
Disgusting.
Something seems wrong with that "lawyer" and someone needs to do a wellness check on her .And she has filed false copywrite requests .
Her everything but outright accusing him of being a pedo for caring about kids’ lives is INSANE. Ask any firefighter or first responder- they know how to hook up car seats too. Many of them don’t have kids either. There are also many well-meaning mothers that have lost kids and they did everything they thought was right. I’m a mom- it didn’t give me automatic knowledge of car seats.
Reminds me of the parents using natural medicines or cures that ended up hospitalizing or killing their kids.
Yeah I have a 4 year old and I literally just took her car seat to a fire station yesterday for them to convert it to a booster, cause I was like nah, I don't get this 😅 and pretty sure the guy that did it for us didn't have kids, but he knew what he was doing! I sure didn't..
I wanna touch on one thing. In the child seat safety group I’m in on fb ran by CPST’s they say it is false that all firehouses/emts/nurses/hospitals know these things. They might have people who do or for hospitals/nurses people who know the basics of what babies need to pass the car seat test to go home safely. But first responders does not automatically equate CPST. Just trying to help inform! Because I thought the same too at one point.
@@dannystrider5009but like, statistically speaking, a firefighter is more likely to know how to install a car seat than a new mom. Obviously some moms can install car seats and some firefighters can’t. I’m just saying, if I was betting money between two random people, I’d bet on the firefighter
You mean to say that babies don't come with a know all "how to parent and know everything" manual?
So according to her logic, if a doctor doesn’t have cancer, they have no business treating cancer patients.
That's a bad comparison. I think its valid to point out that the guy being a safety expert doesn't mean he knows what its like to use a particular product day in and day out the way an actual parent would. Two different car seats can both be perfectly safe on a technical level. But one of them might be a pain in the butt to use because of an unintuititive design or whatever (and an unintuititive design increases the risk of the car seat being used incorrectly).
A man with no children who only knows the technical specifications wouldn't know this. But a mother who actually used the product would
@@MsBrendalinaparents don't know more than a guy who's LITERALL JOB IS TO TEST CAR SEATS
@@JetstreamTheSexSam
You didn't read what I said. Testing a product is different than actually using it day in and day out with a real kid. A man might not catch a flaw like the seat being too heavy or too difficult for a woman to use
@@MsBrendalina that sounds like a skill issue. Work out or get a less heavy one
@@MsBrendalinaare you sure the guy hasn't used car seats regularly? He could have nieces/nephews or friends' children ride in his car often.
I don't have kids, but I've used plenty of car seats.
I'm in the legal field, and I don't know any attorney that would refer to themselves as a "federal civil attorney." You can be licensed in the federal court system, but it's just bizarre. Like, I work on cases in both federal and state court. I work on civil matters as well as administrative law, but I wouldn't describe myself by those things. Most attorneys describe themselves by the specialty (medical malpractice, personal injury, copyright, criminal, etc.). Additionally, a true Cease and Desist must have appropriate service, which means proof that it was received. That can be as simple as registered mail or a process server, but an email doesn't count.
The "cease and desist" letter reads like a Rick and Morty episode....from Season 5.
"We train ourselves to stop training. The trained are untrained, we are untrained. All training is complete.
Because no training was needed."
Be your crows, or whatever. 😂
People calling themselves child experts just because they're parents are some of the most obnoxious people to exist
and dangerous!
Also, the fact that she says well I’m gay so I can’t be homophobic basically is such a load of bull crap because there are so many LGBTQ plus people in that community that are homophobic or are trans phobic or both. Just because you’re gay doesn’t mean that you’re not homophobic/trans phobic.
Example, James Charles is extremely trans phobic and he’s gay like babe 🙄
I’ve heard a few people say she’s said some terfy type things and liked terfy posts, so her homophobia against a gay man makes even more sense.
@OfMouseandThem always weird to me when GNC people like James Charles and Jeffree Star hate trans people
Ugh and comments are even trying to say that the post she liked wasn’t homophobic to begin with!!! People will do ANYTHING to step on trans people. I’m glad Markie is supporting us
And she's not even technically gay lol if anything she would be pan or bi geven her partner is male
That's like saying a divorce lawyer's not qualified because they've never been married lol
I’m a mental health clinician and if I received a call on this situation- I would tell them this is not a crisis. And I do not believe that a professional lawyer would call for a welfare check. This seems so ridiculous.
I own a textile testing laboratory where one of our tests is testing children’s sleepwear for flammability. Is she saying a mother knows better about the flammability of her kids clothes than I do when I have spent 50 hrs a week for 40 years burning it? Bc she’s damn wrong about that. Even when it was my dad’s company and I was a teen working there I knew more than she does bc I DID THE TESTING! 🤦🏻♀️
I absolutely love the spelling of your name Aeryn Storm! If I had another daughter I would totally use that name. I have a Haedyn and a Kambreigh. Aeryn would go perfect with them. Haha sorry for the rant. ❤
@@nearlynursenerd praying for your children 🙏
SO TRUE this is it EXACTLY ☠️
@@js8qp2pwisos you’re wrong for that 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Whoa, that's really interesting! I'd love to watch a channel about that kind of work
Why would the “lawyer” be “saying you seem to think I” and “me” ?? She literally forgot she was posing as a lawyer. Google shouldnt supply legal doc templates
Yeah that person writing those C&D’s is DEFINITELY NOT a lawyer. Lmao those emails are so embarrassingly not written by a lawyer. I feel so much secondhand cringe
@@MashaRistova I would too but I’m not gonna allow myself to feel anything for this useless human. She’s horrible.
C&Ds don't have to be written by a lawyer. Anyone can send a Cease & Desist notice seeing as it's not a legal document. It's simply a letter that alerts the recipient of the possibility of legal action. It's a misconception that C&Ds have to be drafted by an attorney or that the letter itself is a legal document.
LOL Agreed that the grammar in this "C&D" was atrocious, but I must say that I HIGHLY doubt the author took the time to actually google examples of a C&D. It might sting the fragile ego of both "attorney" & "expert". ;)
I don't know if I agree that Google shouldn't supply legal doc templates but I completely understand your sentiment. It could be dangerous if used improperly but our system has a way of weeding out those who abuse this bc of the process in which people are required to file these documents and the fact that most papers regarding lawsuits and legal proceedings need to be approved/reviewed by a lawyer. A way I use them are "knowing your rights" docs to customers depending on their state and "medical emergency and safety precautions" docs that again are made specifically for each state. I appreciate these templates and will only send them over if they are provided by a certified law firm in their state
If you want a mortician who has a yt channel and can explain these things look up Ask A Mortician, I love her because she also goes over historical society and their practices as well.
It's so weird that this attorney said "copyright right", when it's perfectly normal and correct to say "someone has the copyright"
But what about Copyright Lefts?
As a medic , to me she is extremely dangerous. Some people are going to listen to her and believe her. Props to the man who is certified and actually knows what he’s talking about. She should be ban from all platforms.
I used to think people were smarter than to fall for such obvious fake info, but then Jilly Juice happened and thousands of people legit believed drinking gross cabbage salt water would regrow limbs and "cure" autism. Now I'm a misanthrope and I genuinely fear that many of the people falling for this crap are parents forcing this garbage onto their children.
Shes not dangerous. She has a right to her opinion. I may not agree with it but if youre basing your decision on not to buy a specific chair because of someone who is a mortician then youve got bigger problems. Stop with the hate. Holy shit bruh.
You're not a medic.
How is it dangerous if people don't buy one specific car seat? What's the risk. They would just use a different safe car seat.
@@smokejaguarsix7757her responses were horrid though. she’s able to claim she’s an expert and she isn’t
People will ruin themselves over their inability to apologize and admit they screwed up.
This 🙌🙌
It’s more than inability. It’s doubling down on everything that’s just astounding 😅
I just wanna say that when my mom died and covid was still very prevalent, the funeral home we prefer for all our family members had our backs. Not just for the few days, they had our backs for months when our money was tight.. we were able to pay after a few months and there was no hounding or anything mean spirited. The funeral director and his wife both called and check on our family a year after as well! I highly appreciate the care and respect that morticians and their families go through to make the final days a little less terrible than they are. ❤
If that woman is really an attorney (doubtful given the content of the “cease and desist”), she needs to be disbarred. She’s the one who needs a wellness check, not Kitty, because this is seriously unhinged and unprofessional behavior
As a mom and grandmother I’ll put my faith in someone who is an expert in the field when it comes to car seats. I also believed in doctors when my children are sick, dentists when they have tooth issues, and teachers to educate them. MANY of these professionals have no children of their own - GASP! Yet, somehow, I trust them! I must be a fool! We all know mothers are automatically experts in all areas regarding children. I have some catching up to do!
Well said. Thanks
But are u really a mom if u dont have 18 PhDs?
Right! We are resource curators, not experts in every little thing!
Thanks for clarifying I must’ve missed that memo😂
My mom is a professional at stressing out. For me alone, she's in shambles (i have surgery coming up, that's why), and she still has 5 others.
There’s absolutely no way an actual registered, practicing attorney wrote those letters; and on the off chance one did, they need to be reported to BAR immediately
This is what I was thinking
This is exactly what I was thinking
Right? Starting with using Lauren’s tiktok handle and not her actual name? Seems weird lol
I hope she does get reported. She is backing these horrible cease and desist letters she sent.
I would have thought this too. But I ended up here because the video I was watching before this one was about a judge texting during court. Sooo……
As someone that has suffered hard from mental health related issues, that gaslight is so extremely vile
The fact that the lawyer did such terrible research before sending out private information to a third party is telling. Can she be sued for doxing someone? Even if the third party was the mother of the person receiving the cease and desist letter, that's no excuse for adding her. Unless someone is under the age of majority or part of a joint entity like a business that might be involved, there's no valid reason to involve anyone else in their legal matters.
Somehow, 'Hey, I'm telling your mother on you' attitude fits, given that commentary that says her word as a mother should be taken over that of someone that is researching, etc. children's products for safety problems. Newsflash, lady, parents do NOT know EVERYTHING.
Glad to see someone talk about this! She’s now claiming “I was just worried about mental health” as if she is a medical professional and not a weird doxxer with a superiority complex lol
You're comment is bs
Add stalker.
@@Diiabeetussno u
@@Diiabeetuss hi lauren
@@Diiabeetussyour*
And no, it's not.
If a lawyer called in the wellness check, she should find out where he is licensed and file a formal complaint with the bar. The police are officers of the court, as are attorneys. To get them to show up to a person they do not know, the attorney would have to falsify some portion of the request. This isn't like a regular person lying on a police report. This could lead to sanctions or disbarment. 100% she should follow up on this.
bingo bango
Actually it’s a way to confirm addresses to serve paper…legality may vary from location to location, but attorneys use many tactics to confirm addresses of people they plan on legally serving. The email isn’t considered officially delivered by a court. It’s all to threaten kitty legally.
Absolutely. If this person is licensed with the bar, they shouldn't be.
It's a female lawyer.
Complain anyway. She has a very fragile justification for needing that type of confirmation and given the whole of the rest of her actions? She s obviously doing this more for harassment than an attempt to file a court case. She deserves to deal with the discipline process.@@hbic4242
The "car seats are only unsafe when used incorrectly" part reminds me of when I looked up why condoms don't work 100% of the time and turns out that in the vast majority of cases where a condom failed to do its job, it was used incorrectly. We're talking situations where they didn't know it has an expiration date or it was stored in the glovebox of a hot car.
As a mother of a 14 yo and a 4 yo I WOULD take recommendations from a guy that has over a decade in that particular field then a mother. The things she "tests" is just a quick little test. Like the one with the bath tub thing that blocks the water from splashing out of the tub. I just about died when i seen her "review" and her "safe" pass of it.
This "lawyer" is the one who needs to seek menatl help immediately. This shit is fucking nuts.
After dealing with a lawyer myself, I can tell you for a fact that any self respecting lawyer does not and will never talk the way this fraud does in that hilarious bait email.
I agree. There’s no way that was sent by a real attorney because that’s just ridiculous.
Yeah something isn’t adding up with that attorney. I thought cease and desists had to be sent via first class mail as they are a legal document that can be brought up in court to support the case.
apparently it's real and she's a real attorney. there's a lawsuit filed and everything@@cherylb_88
I've been watching Caitlin Doughty for years on here, am subscribed to her patreon and have all of her books. She absolutely has done the morbid minute 'bit' for years and does what Lauren seems to want to do 1000x better. She needs to learn how to stay in her lane.
100% agree. Caitlin is amazing and highly recommend her channel and books for everyone here. And, as far as I know, she's never doxxed or threatened anyone :)
Her first book was the best audible book I have ever consumed. Not only bc she reads it herself (always a plius) but because it murdered my fear of death without my going into reading it with that intention. When it ended I was so sad, wanted to go back in time and relisten and honestly got teary eyed in a very bittersweet and fulfilled way.
Didn’t kitty just make a video saying that her and Lauren were not the same person? That’s what warranted all of Lauren’s reactions?
The importance of being able to accept and admit when your wrong cannot be overstated
not to pull the “i’m in law school card” but i’m in law school and we would NEVER write something like that “attorney” wrote, let alone SEND it. oh my god.
As my HS law teacher repeatedly put it: just because someone can pass the BAR doesn’t mean they’re a good lawyer. Unfortunately seems to be one of those cases.
C&Ds don't have to be written by an attorney. Seeing as you're in Law School I'm sure you already knew that. You also understand that a C&D isn't a legal document, it's simply correspondence that warns of the POSSIBILITY that the sender may take legal action against the recipient. It's a strongly worded letter with an ultimatum that doesn't have any teeth on its own.
I'm just a lowly receptionist at a law firm and even I had to pick my jaw up off the floor at the lack of standard professionalism lmao
You're in law school but write "i'm" 😅😅😅😅😅😅
She sent creator petty Paige’s mum a huge long email with loads of legal jargon info in a bid to scare her. It is so gross!
So being a mortician automatically makes you an expert in literally every single kind of safety issue?? Also the whole "well she's a mother" thing is dumb as hell. There are so many mothers who think it's totally safe to not even use car seats.
She wasn't even an actual mortician. She was just an intern. She quit to do tiktok.
To me it's similar to people using survivor bias as a way to say that something is completely safe despite being proven otherwise. "My kids didn't use car seats and lived so car seats aren't actually necessary"
the wellness check and the insinuation that she's mentally unwell was the most frustrating thing i've heard about all week. i can't explain how much that pissed me off.
No attorney ANYWHERE is going to write a cease and desist (or any type) letter like that. These letters read more like a form with attachments of itemized instances of things to cease doing/saying/etc.
Why the hell is an attorney cc in anyone's mum's in an official document, when the person is clearly an adult and would not be needing a legal guardian? Did this attorney just print her certificate off Pinterest and fill in her name with a crayon?
‘Heed this trigger warning’💀 😂
I'm sensing that the attorney is a fake and not real person. 🤔
@@CapucineNighly oh she's real, it's her degree that is probably fake.
@@CapucineNighlyor just doesn't care about ethics thinking the bar will never find out.Hell billy Mitchell's lawyer is helping him fake evidence and breaking so many ethics of the profession it's probably going to result in his lawyer on trial
its supposed to be a scare tactic like "oooo look at all the information I can dig up on you in small ammount of time" except all she is proving is trying to doxx people poorly and using the information she knows to try and scare the people into complying
I've worked in paediatric medicine as a junior doctor. There were plenty of doctors, nurses, and other healthcare professionals who had no kids.
In fact, sometimes it's easier to work in such a highly emotive field if you don't also have a personal connection.
Your child status should have no bearing on your ability to perform your job or your trustworthiness and expertise in your profession.
Same. Child free and I've worked in Peds for the past 5 years. Most of my coworkers are also child free.
Every time I have someone say, "I love children, I want to go into Peds!" I chuckle and say, "If you really love children, Peds probably isn't for you."
The job is mostly sticking objects into children against their will, lots of really sick babies, lots of kids who are not happy to see you or be there. It's all to make them healthy, but it's not always fun for the kid. I've seen people have babies and leave Peds, because becoming a parent themselves made it too hard to do the job.
Working in Peds involves striking the perfect balance between liking children enough to enjoy interacting with them, but not being so invested that you will get upset making them cry. Not to say I enjoy hurting children - I don't - but I don't let it bother me because I know everything I'm doing is ultimately for their benefit. I'm happy to be the bad guy so Mommy and Daddy can be the hero for their child.
Sometimes that balance is easier to strike when you aren't a parent yourself.
@@ndawn90this warmed my heart, thank you for what you do
My mum used to work in autopsy when I was a wee baby. Until one day she had to autopsy a kid my age, and it ruined it for her. She said she would see me on the table in her dreams and couldn't handle it anymore. Likewise, I wanted to be a vet because I love animals. Until I realized being a vet would involve nothing but suffering animals. No thanks.
I've been belittled so many times by patients who are like "you don't have a child, so you wouldn't know" to stuff regarding my job... why are people like this?
i will always take the word of a safety professional with years of experience over a mother’s opinion about what’s is actually safe.
That lawyer needs to apply for a new job because she's clearly in the wrong profession.
The thing is, she could totally review the car seat as a user. Ie, I don’t like this car seat because it’s too hard to load/unload, or it’s too difficult to buckle, etc. that’s just speaking about your experience. But claiming it’s unsafe is ridiculous - how should she know? Again, if she said “it’s too difficult to get this adjusted correctly,” that would be fine.
exactly
She could even say “I’m not personally comfortable with car seats that turn like this, they just don’t feel as safe to me” and that would be 100% fine. That’s a statement of opinion. But just asserting something isn’t safe because you don’t like it is an entirely different ball of worms.
She could have even used that in her response, like "I was reviewing it as a user not as someone who is trained" and it would have been fine. But the fact she lashed out in the way she did
Yeah, I looked at that type of car seat four years ago and I just wasn’t comfortable with the fact that it turned like that and got a regular backward to forward facing car seat.
I personally wouldn’t buy one due to safety concerns but I would be open to learning how to use one if a friend/family member got one,
Love that she thinks pooping a baby out makes her a car seat expert 😂 (also she was definitely trying to make him sound creepy)
My husband and I were talking while I explained the story to him and I said something similar. I know in Canada many cities have clinics for parents where a tech will help families install their new car seats and check older ones to ensure there are no recalls or bulletins about the seat they have. I went to one with a younger coworker and she brought everything they planned to use. The safety tech made sure everything was good under law. I would definitely look up his site before hers. After watching this drama I realize I'm glad my youngest daughter is 30 and neither daughter aren't big on child rearing.
All I want to come out of this, perhaps more than anything, is that every influencer on every platform just goes outside for a short minute to touch grass. Because at this point, people seem to be starting drama out of nothing but pure boredom.
That Kitty is hilarious. What she says is clear, concise, and comical, and her delivery is amazing. I don’t, and won’t, use Tik Tok, but I’d watch her videos! And not only is that NOT a real Cease and Desist Order, it wasn’t even written by anyone who went past the 6th grade. It is, however, satisfyingly comical! 😂
I work in IT and computer repair, and I have dozens of laptops in my apartment at any given time.
It’s a weird fact without context, which is why people automatically give context if it’s brought up.
The ONLY reason Lauren would say that guy has a bunch of car seats and no children without also including that it’s his literal profession? She 100% wanted to imply that he’s a p*do without explicitly saying it. (Plausible deniability, of course!!)
She knows he’s not dangerous, she’s just salty for getting called out. (In such a gentle way!!!) She’s incredibly dangerous and honestly could get this innocent man hurt or killed.
The wellness check was probably a guise to confirm kitty’s address so they could serve her with papers
I think it was a threat personally. "We know who you REALLY are and where you live"
Kitti is the best.
Intimidating her with some wellness check from an "attorney" is obscene.
I would be disbarred within 30 seconds if I sent that email - that being said, I believe us barristers in the UK are regulated considerable more than they are in the US!
I also don’t believe “Attorney Braun” is actually an attorney…
I believe she prefers Attorney-poo...? I could be wrong.....
Being a mother doesn't make you a qualified child safety expert!
Not a sentence I was expecting to use today or any day because it should be eye-bleedingly obvious to anyone with two braincells to rub together! 😑
As someone who worked in the funeral industry I've been fearing the day a social media mortician brought even more negative attention to the industry
There's already enough stigmas out there about the industry and the people in it
It was drilled into us in school that we have to be very aware of how we represent the industry since the public only ever hears about the bad stuff.
Seriously! Crematorium employee here and I used to follow her and legit thought she was a fellow industry worker until this all came out and found out she just INTERNED. She fooled me (been in industry for 5 yrs) We already deal with all kinds of drama as it is. And here she is making her content like she is an expert. While not taking any sort of accountability. Very bad look especially in death care.
Hi. Someone who's interested in researching these things; I'm sorry you deal with stuff like this. Your job is essential; no matter what people want to deny it but it's true.
You deserve respect and have a great day. C:
huge respect for the work you did and those of you who still do, mortuary work and death care are so so important and it's only because of a handful of people who seem to be level-headed in content creation that I've learned as much as I have and come to realize how much it means to me. It sounds like a nightmare to deal with bad actors in the sphere.
I wanted to enter the industry, but the way the local woman (very small town) always portrayed it put me off of entering. She treated it almost like a joke rather than a serious thing. Not in a “I have to laugh about it otherwise I’ll be depressed,” but just straight up seemed to take nothing seriously. It made me think of the whole industry to a way lesser degree.
I have a friend who worked in a safety lab testing children's toys. Only 20% of the team were parents, yet they all had relevant degrees and did a damn good job keeping children safe by stopping unreliable and dangerous toys from making it to the shop floors of major retailers.
Being a parent gives you an insight into what *your* child might do, but not what every child might do. It certainly doesn't make you an expert in everything remotely child related.
I love when people hire attorneys that end up making them look worse than they already did to begin with. Lol
*I cannot imagine even the dimmest, most irresponsible attorney composing a letter so grammatically sloppy, unprofessional, and ripe for legal repercussions against themselves. Anyone who studied law, but wrote or approved of such an awful letter, would never have been capable of passing the Bar Exam.*
Lying about being a lawyer, aka an "officer of the court", is no different than lying about being law enforcement, it is a criminal offence. I really doubt a real lawyer would call the police to do a wellness check in order to harass someone, its not only harassment, its false reporting which is also a criminal offence. I have dealt with quite a few lawyers in my day & have never read such unprofessional drivel. The email has no letterhead, the structure isn't even at a high school level & the personal attacks contained in the email are not only unethical they're contemptible.
I desperately want Legal Eagle to fact check the supposed lawyer’s claims. She seems to think that fair use means that copyright was infringed in a way that is acceptable. Even a simple google search says that fair use IS NOT INFRINGEMENT.
I do not trust a word out of her mouth.
What do you call the bottom rated grad of your law class?
Lawyer. Doesn't mean she knows what she talking about tho
@@komikbookgeek Lol! We had that same joke in medical school. However, even the last graduate in that class knows way more than the average person. That joke exists to make the struggling law/med student realize that they’re still qualified, even if they don’t outshine their peers.
@Ivy94F oh I figured. But yeah they still know more and need to be treated as such.
Omg this attorney is the same as who's representing @PaigeChristieUK 's family abuser - that's wild to be so unprofessional so openly!
Didn't illuminaughti/blaire call the police saying Wonder was dangerous with a gun... and asked for a wellness check saying she's afraid for her safety??? While he was in a mental health crisis????
My whole job is child safety. A lot of what she says is her opinion only and has no backing. Everything has to be passed and approved with CPSC. Her whole thing is she was a mortician so she’s seen things. I’ve seen things too with my job but it doesn’t mean my word is the final word.
She worked in the field for less than 2 years. She literally has no basis for her opinion.
The "lawyer" who sent those letters are totally giving me "My daddy is a lawyer, my mommy is a judge....so that basically makes me a lawyer too!" vibes. 🙄
I had to rewatch this three times I was so lost in the mental gymnastics she did to justify her actions. I don't have tik tok but the kitti chick seems hilarious and I'm going to try to watch her content. As for the expert on everything just cause she made a human ...... Wow. Can I get free credentials for having made AND raised a human to adulthood???? I feel like I should definitely have a PhD by now lol
That attorney is giving off some MAJOR Umbridge vibes!!
I'll have to fire my attorney now, because when she sent that cease & desist letter to the person I am suing she didn't cc his mother, dog walker, first grade teacher and gym buddy.
Its a little insane that she is claiming that just because youtube accepts the claim that therefore its valid. I think YT only needs proof that yes you are the owner, but afaik they dont evaluate fair use, and the claimant needs to do that themselves. Acting like youtube is some kind of judge with jurisdiction to decide guilt is CRAZY
I remember getting a hate email from a girl back when I was in highschool almost 20 years ago. It sounded very much like that lawyers email.
Doesn’t this lawyers client, Lauren, frequently show other people’s content (including the faces of their children) for the purpose of “stitching” on TikTok to “educate”?
Does that not count under her weird definition of “art theft” or is it only theft if you pay her to call it that
Someone else mentioned this in another video. Her entire platform is based on stitching other people's content 😂
She’s been going down the rabbit hole of Aaron Carter’s death
When all the shit happened with that man that was a car seat expert, it really made me sick. And I felt so bad for him. She literally was saying the most horrific (and homophobic) things about him. Made me despise her. So glad she’s FINALLY getting her karma. And like her whole ‘I’m bisexual!’ Shit is soooo dumb. Some of the most violently hateful/homophobic people are actually a part of the LGBT community. Genuinely a disgusting and INSANE person.
Yes! I've gotten more hate from within our own community for being pan than I have from the straight community! Mostly from bi people!
why would bi people hate on pan people...? they're p much the same thing@@threeraccoonsinatrenchcoat8863 😖
@@threeraccoonsinatrenchcoat8863 bi person here, you being pan is valid, and i support you, bi and pan are different things and dont listen to anyone who calls you invalid
same here! so much of the community promotes 'sex positivity', which is obviously a really good thing!! but as an aroace person, the amount of times i've seen asexuality ignored, brushed aside/under the carpet, or even told that it doesn't matter because 'love and sex are intertwined' is... far too many times to count, and it's incredibly tiring. how is it that my (straight) mother's reaction to my being aroace ('huh. okay, love you.') was more accepting than some of the community?
@@abbzehx i get it. I definitely get it.
I love how the lawyer acts like copyright strikes can't be abused on platforms like TikTok and CZcams, the latter of which is notorious for having an automated system that some claim has an automated appeal and review process on top of being increasingly anti-user/antagonistic towards content creators...
Aw I love Kitti's videos, it sucks she got dragged into this drama. She's great, she's got a lot of videos helping women to get creepy men to leave them alone and her sense of humor is hilarious.
Yeah....the crap Ms Braun Esq. has pulled, could potentially get her disbarred. She shared someone's private information with a 3rd party without properly verifying things first. That's a HUGE no no.
Lauren is proof that people will believe whatever you say, without a second thought, with undying loyalty... _as long as you say it confidently enough_
Both people who got letters from Lauren’s unhinged attorney need to make complaints to the bar!
Just discovered this creator literally a day or two ago and was taking her advice seriously. Glad somebody told me she was full of it sooner rather than later!
The attorney looks a lot like Lauren in the face, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out she's just using her because this is a relative who will do her bidding for free. That's why she hasn't retained a less... unhinged lawyer.
I literally thought that WAS Lauren until I saw the "Braun Law Firm" sign behind her (in what appears to be her house?).