TikTok Tattoo Artist Ruins Her Career With Lies
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- In today's video we will be talking about Jenna Grace, Tattoo Matt and more
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Let's not insult tattoo artists by calling her a tattoo artist! She's at most an entitled and "aspiring" apprentice.
As a tattooist of 16years. Thank you for knowing the difference😂❤
Yeah she's got a LOT of learning and growing to even begin to be called.
Glad someone has pointed out the difference. Most apprentices do not actually tattoo real human skin until the near end of their apprenticeship, which can be 2-5 years depending on how far you are in your sketching career. Before human skin comes fake skin and before that, you need to be able to sketch on command whatever your teacher presents you with with no faults.
Where I'm from, we call them scratchers 😅
@@Heather.the.heathen.witch. as a tattoo artist as well I also appreciate this comment
Matt's a real one for the "that would be airing out her dirty laundry" knowing damn well he COULD but it isn't the right thing to do, even in the face of his reputation.
as an artist it would ruin his reputation more if he took part in the drama.
Its like an unwritten rule among us tattoo artists.. no drama.
This girl has ruined her career before it even started.
This makes me trust him as an artist.
I agree it is nice but mostly smart. As an employer you are not allowed to tell anyone, especially future employers why you fired someone. Not sure state to state or for apprenticeships but I'm guessing it's similar. Which sucks when they do something awfulnand you can't warn the next person.
@@samanthaskenandore7191um yes you can. You can give a real reference.
@@samanthaskenandore7191since Matt is more or less her employer, he can’t publicly state why she was fired without legal penalty. But, of course, TicTac has rotted Gen Z’s brain so logic is not their strong suit.
She doesn't want to be a tattoo artist. She wants to be a content creator. I looked at her insta profile when she was fired and I only saw 3 pics of her drawings, but countless tiktoks about shop shenanigans. Matt made the right choice.
i'm getting the exact same vibe. idk why she doesn't just pursue content creation for specific workplaces/artists, i feel like there's a market
Forget not having tattoos, not being able to draw is the biggest tattoo artist red flag there is.
Her content was weird and cringe
Loves the clout and attention that comes with the tattoo community but doesn’t wanna put in any of the time or commitment. Clearly… I mean look at her skin, can’t even commit to getting tats herself.
Someone like her would never come close to becoming a tattooist when I started. It was a pretty crazy business back in the 80's. Not somewhere you could get away with screwing around, a shop owner was more than willing to kick the crap out of someone and if you opened a spot too close to another existing shop, you could find your shop destroyed or bikers running you out of town...
The fact that she has to move across the country and pay to get another apprenticeship says a lot, there’s tattoo shops everywhere and she’s obviously burned all of her bridges
There's so much to take from this your right it also feels obvious she's immature and entitled when she acts like a child in tik toks and lies about a go fund me after going on a vacation lol Americans I hate us
She's a walking warning sign I'd be surprised if someone actually took her in
I'd never heard of paying for an apprenticeship. It doesn't work like renting a chair at a hair salon, at least to my knowledge. I have 11 tattoos and have worked with 4 different artists. I don't know how I would feel about a newer artist and having no tattoos. Again, just my expirience, but most I've known, start on their own skin. Knees or easily accessible places.
@@amandastehley47I agree I would never trust someone without tattoos to tattoo me. I understand not having any starting an apprenticeship but if you don’t get any along the way and begin tattooing professionally w 0 tattoos… bad vibes
yooo didnt think about that but thats so valid. shes been blacklisted lol
The fact that she made a gofundme for something that’s not an emergency or life threatening feels hella entitled
One time a guy started a GoFundMe with a goal of $10 because he wanted to buy ingredients for potato salad. His donation rewards if you did donate were like...I will send you a picture of potato salad. I will send you a video of me making potato salad. I will make as much potato salad as is donated for and then donate the potato salad for a big potato salad party. He not only made his $10, he made THOUSANDS. To me it's the most inoffensive version of using GoFundMe for it's original purpose. GoFundMe wasn't intended to be the backbone of the American healthcare industry, but has become that, so I can def see why you feel that way. This woman is someone who needed to fund her own cross-country trip rather than asking people to pity her, but GoFundMe kinda was made for dumb shit originally
Edit: I know GoFundMe doesn't do donation tiers but this guy specifically was offering rewards to donors to entice donations because he wanted $10
I agree... people every day move and make personal decisions about their life but don't ask for crowd funding to support their life choices.
I think gofund me can be used for things other than emergencies but this isn't really one of them, I'm only referring to stuff like indie film or game development which require crowd funding to actually happen.
@@MindyGailand if you’re going to, at least be extremely transparent. 🤦♀️
The people who donated to her Go Fund Me ...Are the same people who would donated and probably do donate to and for other questionable (do they really need it like this?*) Accounts*?* and Reasons*?*
They're most often like minded people... Perhaps best they*Stick together living with their egos High and their Eyes* closed...🤨🙄..
💚➖🌐➖💚
Honestly her infantilizing herself in all her TikToks was a disaster waiting to happen like there’s no way you can act like that & have a good dynamic with your coworkers. And then the gofundme is just so insane lol
Edit: I also wanna add that like, idk I feel like people would take her more seriously if she actually showcased her work?? Like if you wanna be a tattoo artist and don’t have any tattoos yet, fine , but where’s your art lol???
Yeah if I had to work with her I’d lose my mind
She used to show her drawings... She has a lot of work to do.
@@babblerscorneromg I wish I could see them LOL
right!!! how can you be an artist and not show your art? it’s very odd.
never let someone without tattoos tattoo you.
I know someone who only made $300 on their gofundme to support them while their child was in the NICU because their child was BORN with cancer, and died after a few weeks. Excuse me if my heart doesn't bleed for a tattoo artist.
This! I'm 29 and have multi organ failure, I had a gofundme for medications I needed and travel so I could go to mayo clinic and I got $25. I never got to go to mayo clinic and ended up almost dead from not having my medications. I don't understand how someone who could go get another job is getting $ but people who can't work get looked past like we aren't humans
I made $80 on GFM before my parents told me I should be ashamed for taking money from people for my needs. (I had sepsis and undiagnosed diabetes in July 2022, I had to have a below the knee amputation which meant I couldn’t work retail, I’m a student and I couldn’t just go and launch a new career when I was going around in a wheelchair. I put up a GFM because I was suffering from PTSD nightmares which was mixed with my history of depression/borderline personality disorder and anxiety. It was $6,000 for one year of therapy in the Bay Area so I could tackle only having one foot in something I didn’t know any other way in which to pay for)
My parents saw and were disgusted that I would feel entitled enough to ask for people to help me get therapy so made me take it down, my mother even made me print out something showing her people had been refunded
Completely agree, the person you know is the kind of person who should be getting help from donations. I’m a dance teacher in Australia and there’s a huge number of studios who do fundraising so their students can go on a holiday to Disneyland and dance in a quiet part of the park. These are healthy, blessed, extremely privileged children and families, most have already travelled overseas before. My Mum has multiple health issues and has nearly died twice in the past year. She is bedridden, I shower and dress her. My Dad and I care for her full time, even though we also both have Ulcerative Colitis, so I can only work a couple of hours a week. I would never expect fundraising, I don’t know where people get the arrogance to expect money handed to them!
im sorry, how old are you? you sound like you need help... away from your parents, their behavior in this comment is disgusting and repulsive parenting of someone who clearly needs assistance, and shouldnt feel bad for asking for it. No one was forced to help you, they just did.
@@fae206
@@fae206For what it's worth, you didn't force anyone to donate. You didn't TAKE money from people. You were in a bad situation and rather than help you get the support you needed, your parents blamed and shamed you and that was absolutely wrong of them.
I have been gradually losing my mobility, which is obviously a different kind of challenge than you've been facing, but I'm at the point where I'm working at trying to get a power chair because my other aids are insufficient. People don't understand how drastically these things change your life. You deserve therapy to help you through the struggles of being disabled!!! It's not a weakness or a flaw. It's a common struggle amongst almost everyone who goes through long-term mobility changes. Taking care of your mental health is important. The body keeps the score. We have to be kind not just to our bodies but our minds too.
I genuinely wish you a better life filled with better people in your future. Your support network should actually support you. You did nothing wrong by placing a cry for help online. NOTHING wrong. ❤❤❤
She seems to be confusing GoFundMe with Patreon.
Why can't they get a job? We have to work, so why can't she ?
Or Kickstarter
Yeah, technically on patreon she can have raffles or just give to people if they enter in at a certain tier
Agreed
Or playing dumb vs "confusing"
Its the infantilizing herself and no accountability for me 😒
That's you're everyday woman
Yessss super annoying.
Exactly
Can’t she do what we all did and get a job to support herself while doing her apprenticeship? 🤷♀️
Playing devils advocate: a lot of apprenticeships want your full attention on the shop. Many don’t have the means to support themselves to pay for their apprenticeship fees
@@HORIZONNNNa LOT of careers have this same predicament but people put in blood sweat and tears, make incredibly difficult sacrifices and barely make ends meet just to achieve their goal. her very first step was to ask for $15000 on a gofundme AFTER she accepted the apprenticeship, knowing full well it would be expensive, and then even lying about where some portion of the money would go to because she knew it would be an issue.
My artist worked by my side as a cashier at a thrift store for a few years while putting in the time outside of a full time job, a wife and 2 sons at home, getting his work out there as an apprentice himself. It can be done.
Such a sick american mindset. Imagine having to work alongside working at a shop for free AND JUSTIFYING IT
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644 imagine being so entitled and expecting someone to teach you for free.
That pout in her TikTok, tho. Trying to channel the 🥺 without cringe is basically impossible once you're an adult, let alone while discussing work matters
I wouldn't be able to respect someone who does that for any reason other than promoting their sexwork.
when the first tiktok came out of her doing that i had commented saying that it was weird that she was actnig like that and everyone came for me
There's a time and place to pout, but this was not that and she is just being immature
i respect that you would respect a sex worker using that as a marketing tactic. it really is genuinely a more appropriate venue for that vibe isnt it?@@WilliamBrowning
Not outside of a context requiring consent lol
I worked 2 jobs while doing my apprenticeship. It fucking sucked, but I survived. I hope she realizes you can still get fired from a paid apprenticeship 👀
When the boyfriend gets tired of her
Really respect Matt's first response, it is none if anyone else's business why she was let go. If she won't tell you that is not his problem, people on social media get SO wrapped up in a parasocial situation and act like they are entitled to answers that have nothing to do with them.
Honestly, situations like this show how wary businesses need to be of using social media is used to promote themselves. I get that they have to advertise themselves, but attaching your business to any one employee or allowing employees to make extensive (and one sided) social media posts about you can obviously create huge issues. Idk, I could see more and more businesses having contracts including an agreement that you won't make any social media posts in or about the shop without management approval.
Spot on
I have to admit I felt bad Matt’s shop got hate for letting her go and I respect him for not going into the details. Also when are influencers going to learn you can’t do raffles, here in the US they’re illegally unless you’re either a nonprofit or the government.
Raffles are illegal in the us? Why?
When I read your comment I didn't beleive it as a tattooer who sees raffles done all the time. So I did some research, you are 100% correct, they are illegal for profit based businesses
not 100% sure, but i think because they have to pay to enter, kind of making it an unauthorized lottery. I cant imagine that being allowed, but again not completely sure
It's considered a form of gambling in the US. You're essentially 'betting' money with your donation that you could win something. Another commenter said it's like a lottery and that's accurate
@@liz_loves_cats oh ok so not actually illegal, just ‘controlled’ ok thank you for clarifying :)
Shocker the CZcamsr/influencer who didn’t say why she was fired ended up being crappy . And the artist who already proved himself to be a nice person , ended up being innocent .
Honestly glad he clarified that this wasn't tattoogate cause my IMMEDIATE reaction was "oh god what ELSE did that woman do?!"
lol I hate to be the bearer of bad news but another video about the tattoo gate lady was justtttt posted to treacle tatts’ channel with a new/different situation so she might end up as a topic here again 😅 it’s an eventful day in the tattoo world!
@@Faux_Shihasn't been this eventful since that whole Kat Von D Jeffree Star thing. And then that OTHER kvd thing 😅
@@TheRibottoStudios please don’t forget about Oliver Peck, one of the Xhosts of Ink Master & him doing black face 3 times.
And lesser known but still pertinent, publicly shaming an SA survivor by calling her, a “worthless lying wh**e”
No surprise there, though he was married to Kat Von D.
To be honest, I think people just rather donate to influencers because they’re “cool” than to someone in need. A homeless person isn’t gonna make a CZcams video saying “Thank you to all my supporters” to give people a pat on the back for being generous
This
parassocial relationships are the issue here. people feel like they know who they're helping, they feel like they're helping out someone their friend. the homeless man on the street is just another homeless person they'd ignore on their morning walks. if they knew the homeless person, and liked them, or if it was someone they knew who was becoming homeless, then they'd probably be more inclined to help out. the problem here is that we don't actually know influencers, so when you donate and the person is exposed, the illusion is shattered and people feel like they've been scammed. when in reality, they just donated to a stranger on the internet, so this is an expected outcome.
@@momomomo__agree I don’t understand how anyone develops a parasocial relationship.. never had one in my 30 years on this earth.
I live near the tattoo shop she's moving to, and looked into getting worked on by the owner... they have a $2500 minimum, so I'm not surprised that a) they charge $5k for an apprenticeship or b) that they are taking this girl into the fold. We'll see how much she likes MI after her first winter lol
Nah let's see her after her first pissed off customer in mi 😂
my thoughts EXACTLY about the MI weather AND the lake effect. you will be nothing but miserable if you don’t know what you’re getting into (or even if u do lmaoo)
@@batturiebunnie6460lived here my entire life and it still pisses me off every single year lmao
A $2500 MINIMUM????? My heart stopped for a second holys hit
So lole ten clients a year maybe
When I started my apprenticeship, I agreed to a 15,000 dollars over three years agreement that wasn't just to learn tattooing, but also learning literally EVERYTHING about owning and running a shop. I paid the first 5,000, and then 6 months later, my "mentor" decided that on top of me already working from 7 am to 7 pm at the shop, 7 days a week, ( I wish I were kidding) he also said he wanted me to come up with the full 15,000 within the first year, and that he was shortening the actual time of the apprenticeship to one year. So not only do I not have time to get another job to do this, he wasn't willing to let me pay off the rest of the money by doing apprentice tattoos for the next 6 months. Needless to say, these were absolutely IMPOSSIBLE conditions. So I had to leave. And he was a twenty year established artist, in his own shop. So about 2 years later, I saw that he was setting up a gofundme for 10,000 dollars to outright pay off the building that his shop was in, and the fact that if he had just kept his end of the deal, he would have gotten that 10 grand from me, on time, and would have been able to buy his shop regardless, was not lost on me. The sheer irony, right? I did not donate.
damn i’m sorry that happened to you
Im a tattoo artist and theres no way i would train her. She has broken one of the main tattoo artist rules... no workplace drama.
She has ruined her career before it even started.
There are so many "apprentice" like this, it's always the petty ones too. I wish there was a better way to background check people- 💀
@@BloodInTheStrawberries 🤣
Let’s hope she learnt her lesson
I feel like the gofundme is such a fumble! She’s literally an artist!! She could have just made a Patreon account and offer tiers for work she does! 🤦♀️
This girl makes me so angry. Her self-infantilization makes me angry. Her entitlement makes me angry. Even her face makes me angry!
In the US a business owner can get sued for revealing negative information about an employee. The most you can say “They are not eligible to be rehired.”
He has done the right thing. Ended the drama. No comment and telling people to move on
As a rule of thumb- do not donate money to those more fortunate than you. SMH. I’m sure we can all guess what happened in the internship ended
Will TikTokers ever learn that if they've only heard one side of the story, then they don't have the full story? It feels like every week TikTok viewers have to apologize for sending someone hate before getting their side of the story and then turn around and send hate to the original creator. It's so stupid.
Absolutely! And the gall to demand answers from a business when they have no involvement with them or right to that information is just... parasocial extremes
Brains are mush. It’s literally a platform run by commie China to completely dumb down our youth and it’s very effective. There’s decades and decades of research showing just how easily influenced certain people are…. CCP knows that and is using that as a weapon against the naive and willfully ignorant. The writing is on the wall and I’m sure they have a pretty good grasp on who is carrying and who isn’t as well……
Your telling me a girl who got famous over tiktok based solely on her aesthetic isnt a good person, dam crazy bro.
Especially since literally none of it was even hers. Her aesthetic is from Pinterest and her “content” was half-assed mimicking sound bites and they weren’t even funny (which admittedly is what a lot of tiktok is, but it’s fucking stupid). She got “famous” by carbon copying shit other people did and still this drama is the most notable thing she will ever achieve lmao.
If you’re looking for why her original apprenticeship ended the ALLEGED reason is because she was rude to and ignored clients and threw tantrums when people didn’t want to make tiktoks with her. A screenshot of this comment is shown around 13:29 in this video.
So she got fired because she just wanted to act like the annoying, quirky girl.
I am honestly so freaking done with people begging for money on the internet😒
i'm just done with the fact that some people need to.
@@stevenunyabidnessyeah i totally understand it if it’s for medical stuff or to have a roof over their head.
Even tho it is really fcked that people need to to survive.
And I will absolutely not judge those people for it because I know how hard it is to not have the money to pay for those things.
But for stuff like this…
Like sure I also want things I can’t afford but I’m not going to beg on the internet for it and actually safe up to be able to pay for it.
@@CedarMountainsnow betting you gave out ayn rand books for christmas.
A good artist can earn a 1,000a day... So why doesn't the boyfriend do some guest slots across the country to fund themselves? Everything about this is wrong and entitled. I'm an Irish archery champion, we are unfunded, I can't even raise 500 to compete in the World Cup.
(I've just spent 15 years caring for my disabled uncle who just passed away in his 100th year, I'm also unable to work myself due to disability... Just to explain my situation).
Kinda crazes me that people can literally have the nerve to ask for so much.... And get it!! What A world we live in
Yeah, I made a GoFundMe recently because my vehicle died, and needed to be replaced. I wasn't able to work, and was afraid I was going to lose my business. I never even shared it because I felt wrong asking for money. It really irritates me how people give more freely to an influencer than they probably would to a neighbor.
These go fund mes also drive me crazy because it's basically a popularity contest. Influencers or already well off people who need it for something dumb get tons of donations. While regular or poor people who desperately need the help don't get funded.
A good artist can earn a lot more than $1,000 a day 😂. As a former shop owner married to an amazing artist.... A thousand bucks a day was a slow day.
@@missychan63...yup. My first year I pulled 130k. And that's loooow but I was newbie. Cursive names, anyone?
@@missychan63 not in Ireland missy but I love that you're all Flexing and that's all you picked out of my comment.
Does no one on TikTok understand how USA Department of Labor services work? Registered apprenticeships have funding for tools, etc., attached to them. Moving expenses are tax deductible. I know some people find it easier to just ask for/donate money for things, but often those things have existing resources.
Additionally, employers generally cannot disclose why they fire someone without legal ramifications.
@@SelinaShawkeep in mind that most tattoo shops do not employ people, they allow independent contractors (the tattooers) the pay them rent to work in their building, so it's an entirely different thing
@@skunker666 That is an excellent point. Thank you for clarifying.
Going on vacation to Hawaii and then having a go fund me is such a scam. I would be furious to find that out after donating. Of course I only donate to those that need it and they don't need nor do they deserve it.
I work for a tattoo artist, and let me just say, there is a lot of drama in the tattoo world. Most artists don't stand for it, so if you cause drama, they will let you go quickly. I think this is because most people think it is an easy money job, when in reality it takes a lifetime of dedication and honing of your craft. Also, it can take years to get a full apprenticeship depending on where you are in your art career. If you want to be a tattoo artist but feel as though your drawing skills are not worth it, remember that a good tattoo artist may charge less for the first few years and work with you on your drawing abilities and to find your style. This is common and not judged (at least by good mannered tattoo artists). You may need to draw for hours a day and report your work for critic every day. Don't feel deterred and go for it! I have no artistic skill and my boss told me that it would take me years (2-3) before they felt comfortable letting me tattoo fake skin, and I am more than happy not to do that. Also, most tattoo artists will work with you on a monthly plan so that if you are let go early, you haven't paid the total just to get canned. If anyone charges you for the total beforehand, just know that most likely if you are let go, especially in no fault firing states, you may lose that money for no reason, and the courts cannot really help you. Be careful, be vigilant, and follow your dream!
Do you actually have to pay to do an apprenticeship in tattooing in the US? I'm in Australia and apprentices get paid as no-one works for free, even whilst learning/training.
totally agree. im a tattoo artist and for every artist we have, we have a hundred + people wanting to be trained.
It takes alot of dedication and skill and 2-3 years of training minimum just so they can be trusted to work on actual people.. and even then its still not paying clients... because its not like you can just erase a tattoo if you get it wrong.. it takes ALOT of skill and precision and focus to be an artist.. so the last thing i would want in my shop is a trainee who creates drama.
This is excellent advice.
@@elenawilliams32yeah that happens in the US and they also have tattoo schools like a tafe course.
I managed a tattoo studio for almost 10yrs and hired a couple of apprentices over that time, we hired them as a shop assistant and progressed through the apprenticeship from there to make sure they were getting paid and didn't need a 2nd or 3rd job. The only thing they had to pay for was their tattoo licence and supplies if they wanted something we didn't have already.
@@chellewilson7730 Cheers for the reply. I'm still shocked that they pay the boss! Our apprentices have to provide the 'tools of the trade' yet they're a tax deduction. I'm really confused by US employment laws. Do they get the standard 4 weeks holiday leave pa? Do they get 8/10 paid sick days pa? I can only imagine that they don't get paid maternity leave either. Thanks.
I feel like if she was crowdfunding through an appropriate platform (kickstarter/patreon/etc) and didn't lie or be shady then none of it would be an issue. I don't necessarily have a problem with her crowdfunding to go after her dream job- but the way she has gone about it makes her seem more like an opportunistic grifter than someone chasing their dream.
Well said!
I agree except I do have a problem with her way over-inflating how much it's going to cost to make that move.
For real! And she didnt even need to make it a "fundraiser" at all. People liked her videos on TikTok, so she could have just made a normal Patreon account as a content creator who happens to be chronicling her quest to become a tattoo artist. No need to itemize expenses or do raffles. It's actually such a simple answer, it makes me question her overall decision making skills.
She feels entitled and wants to make quick money with minimal commitment and work. It’s pretty common with these types.
I got kicked out and moved across the country with my boyfriend and cat, and that cost $3000. 15k is not necessary. If it’s something that u want, u will find a way to make it work without asking for excessive handouts.
Yes! I hope that life is being kind to you now mate. That you and your boyfriend are thriving. I can only imagine how tough it's been for you, yet this will make you even more resilient... And that's a highly underrated quality. Take care of yourself... Mentally and physically. 💙
Aspiring tattoo artist here. My whole setup when I started was $800 dollars. That's a decent Neotat machine. $5k would be crazy for beginners' supplies.
5k is normal for an apprenticeship on the East coast since it not only covers technique and tools but licensing and certification which is required out here.
@tangentartists6876 5k is totally understandable. I was just saying my $800 setup was for supplies (i.e: machine, power supply, ink, storage, ect). Not the apprenticeship.
I believe the wording in the video stated that the apprenticeship was the 10k, and the additional 5k was for supplies. Hence the 15k goal on gofundme. 5k for a beginner setup is way too much.
I'm just confused why they didn't sell artwork or screenprint shirts or something to raise the money? I'm assuming at least her partner can design or draw, they can do a pre-order if you don't have the budget to produce merchandise up front, and everyone gets something out of it?
It’s really weird of her to make a gofundme and not like a kofi or a Patreon. Honestly, because she was fired I’d almost assume any money raised would be a waste. Just not a smart move
It’s crazy to me how these people on TikTok expect their fans and supporters to support their financial problems, but can’t get a real job like a real person
they raised more in their go-fund-me than my mother's for her cancer treatment did ... that makes me angry
8:26 I'm at this point. Raffles are considered gambling and fall under the State's gambling laws. In almost every case you have to get a license and show proof that you already have the prizes being offered, lest you fall afoul of the law.
My only comment is going to be about Matt Vaught, The work he did on Fox Lady, OH MY F**KING GOD THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL!!! And also, Respect to him with his first TikTok responding to the hate his studio was getting - That was a PERFECT RESPONSE!!!
No-one but those involved know exactly what led to Jenna being fired and it is a PRVATE MATTER between Matt and Jenna! I am not going to speculate... There is no point! I am simply going to shout KUDOS MATT!
15k to move? Even if you moved from New York to California you could comfortably to do it under 5k. In a pinch 2k
I wish these crowd funding companies would regulate better
I remember a while back the founder of GoFundMe said something like he never could have imagined the platform would become the #1 Healthcare provider, #1 on the frontlines for direct prevention of homelessness in the US. None of that applies to this in particular, but that put something into perspective for me about crowdfunding. If America wasn't Amurrica, these scammers wouldn't have the space to to be scammin.
I think it’s a misstep to possibly have bad PR affect shop profits, but it really seems like people would’ve entirely run with the double standard of: poor innocent infant woman is the defenseless victim of the big bad tattooed man. People don’t need context, they don’t need the truth - all they need is someone they like enough to back up simply because they like them.
She thought she would get that type of attention. Matt popped that bubble
6:35 tbh the fact that ppl I know right now genuinely can’t pay to fix their cars or choose between Xmas gifts for their kids is insane. 4500!? That could change someone’s life alone. I could cry
She already started an apprenticeship why didn't she already have all the supplies needed? I quit my job a year ago and I haven't been able to find a job so I'm going to try and open an online store so I can try and pay my bills since my savings ran out 7 months ago and I've sold everything I own. Thought about starting a GoFundMe to help get some inventory to start selling since I'm literally negative income every month but nobody would donate to it so I didn't even bother. Cool to know those fortunate enough to go on vacations which I haven't done since I was a little kid can make one and get plenty of donations even though they could come up with the money on their own.
She was most likely renting supplies out from the shop or else hadn't actually reached the point in her apprenticeship where she was allowed to use them so just hadn't gotten any yet. It's not uncommon for apprentices to be expected to be there for at least a few weeks to months before they're allowed to even practice with the tattoo gun. Usually you have to learn to take them apart, clean them properly, put them back together, and clean the station and other supplies while also following all of the proper safety procedures and prove you can do it consistently before you'll be allowed to try using them. You also have to do a lot of normal drawing in tons of different styles in a way the tattoo artist is happy with before they'll let you practice with the tools.
She's bragged about not doing any of the cleaning stuff and hasn't shown any art in long enough for me to assume she hasn't been practicing. If the people training her were like the ones where I'm from they never even let her touch a tattoo gun in that shop
Mikayla Noigera did the same things with the Chanel Bags she wanted to raffle. Will people NEVER learn?
I wouldn’t care about why she did the GFM … IF she’d been honest about the apprenticeship. And offered refunds to anyone who donated just for the raffle and wanted one. She’s just abusing the good nature of people at this point
Your dog sleeping in the background is such a bonus of the video. So cuuuuute
I really don’t understand how people have it in them to just ask for money like this. I have a family member who just lost a leg and has been in the hospital since the summer. I couldn’t bring myself to make a gofundme because it just felt awkward asking strangers for money.
she is ruining a man's life and business on purpose.
she refused to tell her insane donkey brained viewers why she was fired after she knew they were harassing her previous boss and his employees.
i pray the new tattoo artist she is trying to work under sees all this and realizes that the exact same thing will happen to him and his business if he allows her to apprentice under him.
and i hope this situation becomes known enough that no one hires her because of what she is doing to her ex boss.
Yeah the go fund me debacle is beyond disgusting. From using it as a raffle, to then not refunding people who donated for a prize, to the very reason the go fund me existed in the first place.
I’ve considered doing a go fund me for myself and my family because I have MS and 3 children with autism. My husband is working himself to death trying to keep us afloat, while I work in retail as much as I can before my body can’t do it anymore, yet we still have debt from utilities and medical bills…Then my mum got cancer and I’ve become her carer as well. The cost of everything keeps rising, and we can’t afford a Christmas this year. However, I haven’t done a go fund me because there are so many other people out there going through much tougher times than us.
I’m not saying this to be a martyr, I’m pointing out that her reasoning for the go fund me is pathetic, and she should be ashamed of herself. She has an able body, go and get a side hustle like so many others have to before they get to where they want to be. She should be grateful for what she does have.
I agree! I have ms and degenerative disc disease, neuropathy, retinopathy and other issues and my hubs works 60-70hrs a week. We have two girls and my elderly mom. It sucks but we can barely keep food on the table.
I’m glad I stopped investing in the tattoo industry. Too much drama. Too much abuse. Too much unnecessary stress when we are all here just to tattoo people. I tip my hat to apprenticeships, new artists and old school tattoo artists. Y’all are stronger than me
I had to tip out too 😢
But yeah I feel you!
The go fund me crap is soooo unecessary, and its why people who really need help are met with skepticism.
I know plenty of people in much greater need who would never set up a begging page...personally I had to find £5k to pay for a new wheelchair, my friend wanted to set up a go fund me but I wouldnt let her. There's so many people in greater need right now, the entitlement of people like her always floors me.
I can feel this.
After getting my leg amputated (below the knee) following a battle for sepsis, I wanted to get therapy but everything else including all the new fixtures in the house/prosthetic/hospital bed rental etc, were so expensive that my mental health care was pushed way down the list. I started having PTSD and nightmares and anxiety especially from where my long hair started to fall out due to the chemicals at the hospital (similar to cancer treatment).
I put up a GFM for two days asking $6,000 for a years worth of therapy in the Bay Area. I got $80 in the first two days but my mother threatened to kick me out of the house if I wanted to know what lacking privilege felt like. We had no resources to afford therapy. I couldn’t go back to working retail with one foot so I took it down and had to show her proof I had refunded the money.
Yeah, you want a trip, maybe save up for it and budget
Her own boyfriend is charging her for an apprenticeship?!? My apprenticeship didn’t cost me anything except buying my own gas and supplies which my mentor was sometimes even happy to cover for me…….also $5,000 is excessive. The only expensive things she would need to buy is a decent machine and some ink which shouldn’t be anywhere near that much. The rest is just paper towels, razors, cleaning supplies, etc. things that are very affordable
I'm not a tattoo artist but wayyy back in the day I was a regular on a tattoo forum that had a lot of them, artists with amazing portfolios. The advice from the artists on there was always that you shouldn't pay for an apprenticeship. That attitude may have changed, and again I'm not expert, but they looked down on artists who were charging apprentices amounts that went beyond covering costs.
The boyfriend isn't the apprentice. He just worked at the shop she was fired from and is moving with her to work at the shop in Michigan where the new apprentice is
Honestly apprenticeships fees vary. Some you have to pay. Some you don’t and very very RARELY the shop pays you as an employee /student
@@HORIZONNNNreputable artists do not charge for apprenticeships. While they are teaching them, they're also getting free labor and it's basically like an internship. I've even seen some where the apprentice does get paid a bit, but at a lower learner rate and clients know they're an apprentice. Paid apprenticeships aren't really a thing because it becomes unethical, they will accept anyone who can pay instead of accepting only people with decent skills or work ethic.
I've never heard of an apprentice being charged for anything but their own personal Liscenses and supplies and such.
I want to know why he fired her; if its something that would hurt her future chances at other places i wonder what it was…
Sounds like she might deserve to have that dirty laundry aired since she wants to be weird
From what I've gathered she's bragged about refusing to do any of the tasks an apprentice is generally expected to do so I imagine that that was why. She honestly seems like the kind of personality that wouldn't get along with many of the types of people who usually work in tattoo shops as well so maybe she was just getting on people's nerves
Only making TikTok’s at her apprenticeship rather than actually doing the actual apprenticeship is probably why lol…
Probably being in her ego and thinking she is to good. Sometimes when we think we are to good or better than others the universe gives us a kick and reality check
I’m apprenticing right now under a retired tattoo artist. No start up tattoo machine or kit is close to $5000. She’s scamming people.
I will never understand the type of people who donate to gofundmes like hers
Damn, that's is a truly level headed man I've seen in a while in this mad world.
If you fire an employee, that's something between you and them. You don't have to explain your decision process to the whole internet.
No matter how I see this that guy preserved the employee privacy, that's the right thing to do.
She doesn't care about the craft of tattooing. She cares about getting attention through TikTok. Tattoo apprenticeship was just a venue for her to get TikTok clout.
She doesn’t have her own supplies yet?? Yeah sure…I call bullshit.
As someone who saw their mom work two jobs and go to school for over a decade just to get us out of the projects these gofundmes really confuse me.
Wait, there’s *another* tattoo shitstorm?! Let’s gooo 😂
She will probably turn Christian next
Years ago I tried to start a gofundme for my Guinea pig who needed surgery… I loved her so much and after a few vet visits they told us she needed surgery to remove her ovaries because there was a cancerous tumor on it or something like that. I know how silly that seems but I love animals so much and I couldn’t stand seeing her suffer and we couldn’t afford the surgery. Well obviously no one donated and she died soon after. It’s not as important as feeding the homeless and other things of course but seeing people use the website for something like this and it actually working… my heart aches.
The GoFundMe stuff always pisses me off so much. My entire apartment burnt to the ground and I lost everything I ever owned at 21. I’m grateful for the amount of money that was donated and it helped us out so much. But we didn’t get close to what some of these people get for stuff like this. And there’s so many other people who deserved that money.
I think the moral of the story is never get involved with anyone who has a large social media presence, narcissism is usually just around the corner.
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I have seen quite a few people use go fund me as a way to fund artist expenses. I just think it would’ve been better if she did some sort of Patreon, or Kickstarter since those are sites directly geared towards helping artists.
I have a college GoFundMe and it really grinds my gears when I see others (especially ones with hospital bills for their kids) that will get scrolled over for stuff like this (pink sauce lady and tattoo lady now). Also, genuine question, what’s wrong with a tattoo apprentice not having tattoos? I wanted to go to school for tattoos at one point but I realized usually everyone has tattoos
Im surprised u didn't cover that she WENT ON VACATION TO HAWAII WITH THE DONATION MONEY LIKE??!?!????!?!?!?!
You missed it, that was in there a bit lol
"Pay $25 to POSSIBLY win a $1,000 tattoo but the tattoo is done by someone who hasn't even completed their apprenticeship :)" Some people are truly just bad with money.
I randomly saw his post on reels and I was super invested going to everyone’s pages trying to find out what happened, especially since she was dating one of the artists there lol so I’m glad to see this video up. It annoyed me how much she said she wanted to be a tattoo artist but doesn’t have art at all or examples posted
I have one tattoo but watch a lot of tattoo content, i would honestly never let anyone with no tattoos tattoo me, especially because in like most apprenticeships you’re required to tattoo yourself at some point, it’s just weird that someone who doesn’t know what being tattood feels like could be tattooing someone
This is a valid point
during my apprenticeship the first real skin i tattooed was myself, how am i expecting people to trust me to tattoo them if i can’t even tattoo myself?
i recently moved city on my own and i love listening to your videos whilst i cook to feel less lonely. thank you ❤
Omg the Go Fund Me is ridiculous.
Shit. Maybe I should have started a gofundme for nursing school instead of taking out loans.
I was a tatoo artist for 5 years with clientele from journalists, doctors etc. I was not the best but I was continually learning. When my country made a union, i was asked to pay 3000 euro to be in it. There were only 3 women in the field. I refused. I gave up when my ex took my gear to give it to his gf ( who broke my marriage , she was a friend). I took it back, and left the profession, gutted. It was the last straw. Its very gatekeeped.
I’ve been doing portraits/animals/florals/etc for about 9+ years now. In order to get an apprenticeship you normally get tattooed by the dude/girl you want to learn by. If you don’t have tattoos, a huge red flag. 😐
her face creeps me out for some reason
Her "innocent, midwestern little girl" act feels so disingenuous to me that it borders on uncanny valley...
Weird that she has to go to an entirely new state to get another apprenticeship, when there are likely MANY other tattoo studios in her original city..... Did she get blacklisted??
I moved across the US a few years ago. It didn't cost anywhere near $15K, or even 10K. Even with the five grand for the apprenticeship, those numbers are way overinflated.
She could afford the trip to Michigan and the apprenticeship if she used the money for the Hawaiian vacation on the move
You should check out the Ariel De Jesus situation. Bad tattoo artist that doesn't follow health code.
Ive known plenty of tattoo artists and they didnt pay for their apprenticeship. They prep stations, run erramds, check stock, etc. they dont pay to work. Thats insane.
Seeing your dog napping in the background made me very happy. I love dogs. 😄❤️
I think I want to push back some and say that gofundme was never supposed to be for strictly, tangibly important things. The creator of the site, I believe, has stated in the past it was supposed to be used to help fund hobbyists and similarly non-dire things. That he actually hates that gofundme is almost exclusively used for medical debt, housing costs, ect, and wishes it wasnt necessary for costs related to quality of life.
And a person can use a gofundme for moving and apprenticeship 🤷
Now here's the but, I agree that her purposefully being vague about where people's money is going and yoinking the prize was wrong. As well as allowing a hate mob to gather against her former teacher
markie, every time you post a video it makes my day! thank you for the effort you put into your videos !!
She's a professional "hang around" most studios have a one, or a few.
The fact that it's so hard for women to get into the tattoo industry, without this kind of crap happening makes this all the more infuriating
I dont get why you would be expected to pay for an apprenticeship? Over here they pay you lol 😅
The American tattoo industry is just like that unfortunately; and it's super hard to get into and some people extort others using it. They're not the only industry that does unpaid internships, but I've never heard of a paid tattoo internship here. "Free" would be be hard to find too😬
And then it’s her own boyfriend charging her?? That’s even more wild. I didn’t pay for my apprenticeship just covered my own gas and supplies and my mentor helped with that sometimes
@@janb92 They're probably in it together to scam people. Almost certainly it doesn't cost her anything, but they say it does so she can go beg for money from strangers. If she were to hit the goal I bet she would come back with another go fund me campaign after a month or 2 when the previous funds have run dry.
That’s how it is in the industry. Many shops you have to pay for them and wats worse is the shops don’t give you time to find a part time job to pay for your dues
@@HORIZONNNN that's insane 😳
Thank you for putting this all together!!! I’ve wanted the tea forever!
I’m so glad you posted this!!!! Hopefully the shop stops getting hate :/
I really love listening to your videos. The way you describe things and explain what is going on is very enjoyable to listen to. Keep it up! You rock!
this is just something I will never get. With the risk of sounding like a boomer - sometimes people have to let you go. I don’t see why that is something you go to TikTok to bash them for. Even if he let her go just because he didn’t want an apprentice anymore, that’s valid.
MARKIE!
discovered your channel 5 days ago - making my way through all your videos , you're now my fave CZcamsr
That raffle is illegal af in the US. Not just based on go fund me but US laws.
NEVER trust a tattoo artist without any tattoos.
I’m a tattoo artist without tattoos. I’m a full time artist and I give people the quality they deserve. Don’t judge the book by its cover. I’ve seen covered artists that can barely draw.
They better be careful. You also can't do a raffle like this without also allowing non-purchase necessary entries as well in most states.... so....
Markie, I’ve watched every video you’ve released this past 3 months, since I got out of hospital a few months ago. You are so calming and chill even though it’s drama! 😂
Thank you so much for your content. I can’t toss you some pence or coin but I’ll always comment to boost you!! 👏🏻
I live in Montana and can confirm it gets fu**ing cold here in the winter!!!! 🥶
I have a GFM open to help us pay off medical bills and catch up on house payments. I broke my neck in April 2021, became quadriplegic and we have been trying to catch up on bills ever since.
I have been walking since the spring and used my wheelchair as a patio chair all summer. It was awesome ❤️
I have gotten no traction in my campaign, the only people who donated were my maternal aunts, and that was months ago.
❤ i wish you the best in your recovery
Drop the link maybe some can help
@@jordanwebb3129 it’s in my bio. But lemme try to share it, also.
@@jordanwebb3129youtube doesn't allow links in comments/replies i believe, as previously bots would spam malicious links, so youtube dealt with that they way they usually do. There's still bots but now its not links its OF images on their pfp to bait desperate people 😬