The Atheist Experience 771 with Matt Dillahunty and Jen Peeples
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- The Atheist Experience 771 for July 22, 2012 with Matt Dillahunty and Jen Peeples.
SHOW TIME-STAMPS
00:44- Intro & Announcements - Matt Dillahunty
01:58- Jen Peeples on Godparents
09:40- Greg (atheist): atheists need alternate term for 'godparent', concept of a soul, alternate definitions for soul and the afterlife
18:58- Brent: asks who created the laws of physics and why there aren't more 'missing link' fossils
24:32- Mark: atheists should emphasize the number of atheists in the United States, politicians appeal to the religious
33:41- Micah (theist): the validity of the resurrection of Jesus and how it relates to the origin of life, abiogenesis is impossible
47:08- Garry: asks why the hosts don't believe in God
47:59- Isaac (theist): claims the Catholic Church is a force for good in the world
53:34- Joey: the irrelevance of the Question of Evil, weak atheist arguments
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Do you believe in Mithra? I'm guessing 'no'; you're an atheist. Do you believe in Thor? I'm guessing 'no'; you're an atheist. Do you believe in Babd Catha? I'm guessing 'no'; you're an atheist.
There's a great quote, I wish I could remember who said it, "We are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why it is that you reject all other possible gods, you will understand why I reject yours."
@Pyre Spirit Can't believe no one has chimed in on this for 8 years. That was Dawkins. From clips and The God Delusion. "We're both atheists. I'm just atheist toward one more god than you are."
Kinda funny your version was just the converse (removing a not from each side of the equation). As JC's golden rule was just the converse of Confucius.
I guess I'm quite randomly asking but do anybody know of a good place to stream newly released movies online ?
@Ernest Nikolai Try FlixZone. You can find it on google =)
Lol, the mutes on Isaac were hilarious. "BUT THIS IS *mute* ... *unmute* I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A SHOUTING MATCH WITH *mute*"
Brent was a cool caller, it's cool to see someone willingly admit they learn new things and have this kind of curiosity.
"Let's redefine God to be my coffee cup."
I like how Matt can completely destroy people's philosophy in a single sentence.
I want to start a new religion called "The Church of Catastrophic Accidentus"
It's a belief that god blew himself up, with the big bang, while creating the earth.
The cup is my body, hold me securely, the coffee is my blood, drink and be ye saved.
A group of athiests?
Thank you for doing these shows :)
I am currently writing a paper on adding and subtracting elements to/from claims which tend to make claims more unstable. Exactly for the reasons you stated - the added elements can make the claims more vulnerable to tests; the added elements can make a claim self-contradicting; the subtracted elements make the claim nonsensical or incomplete; and so forth. The paper then addresses how to handle the elements in each occasion. But now onto clearing up your other points (see part 2)
“This will continue to improve”. Just wait until 2020 Matt!
Truly you are the greatest intellect of this time. Such a well reasoned argument will surely convince anyone who reads it. Thank you so very much for enlightening us all.
Thank you sir for putting all of these good quality videos up, looking around at this archive of knowledge is making me as excited as a fat kid in a candy store!
Just reading the comments while at the 24 minutes mark. I'm looking forward to this Isaac guy :)
Micah, even if abiogenesis IS completely and utterly wrong, it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD.
Or the relevance/correctness of evolution
Thank you so much for posting this, I was confused about the official roles of godparents and I wanted to learn more.
Dear, Hosts of The Atheist Experience, I applaud your patience.
I like Brent - REFRESHINGLY honest about what he doesn't know and doesn't understand. Such a rare quality!
Thank you, even though it took me a sec to let it register. You speak the truth!
Thanks! Watched it.
the isaac call was hillarious.
and as far as i know, he is still sitting in his favourite chair and yelling at his favourite phone, and he is sooo happy.
the vote results at the end was epic! Great debate, a must see.
What a fabulous rebuttal. Would you give me permission to use it, after I'm done LMAO at it?
Wow the audio quality is getting better
51:41 is when the conversation started turning from painful to hysterical
Sounds great!
That rant after Matt hung up on Issac is the best.
I only discovered it a month ago. I've watched over 50 episodes. It's the best stuff on TV/CZcams.
we all live in the same world, this is as peaceful as its going to get regardless of one's beliefs.
That's really helpful information on godparenting. Thanks.
Right when the video starts, both of them get a surprised look on their face, lol
I am a godfather and an atheist. Recently (June 2012), I found it very difficult to sit through my goddaughter's confirmation. I am not 'out' to her parents. Fortunately I have not been asked to discharge specifically religious duties. I do not believe I could.
So, any other atheist godparent out there struggling with the apparent deceit?
thanks, very nice!
damn 771 that's a lot of episodes. :D
Here's to 1000 and beyond.
For further clarity, the word "law," as used in science, is:
"A descriptive generalization about how some aspect of the natural world behaves under stated circumstances." - NCSE
when are you going to post the recent shows?
The hiding and moving rapist pedophiles part was a pretty argument that its not a force for good, lol.
XD This made me lol so hard! Thank you for making my day. :)
There is no evidence a person ever rose from the dead .
But there IS evidence that people have been awakened from deep comas. Twenty centuries ago, a Bronze Age society in a small mid-eastern country did not have access to high-tech medical equipment that could identify an irregular heartbeat, electrical discharges in the brain and other indications that what appears to be a "corpse" is still a living if unconscious body.
Deep shock can mimic death. My guess is that the Roman soldiers supervising the executions were bored silly, sick of all the mourners' wailing, and more than ready for a drink with their buddies. When Yeshua ben Miriam didn't react to being poked with a spear the "officer in charge" decided he was as dead as he was going to get and told the victim's friends and family to take him away.
It's entirely possible a skilled healer was waiting in the tomb, applied restorative herbs and healing potions (some possibly counteracting the heavy sedatives given to the victim earlier via the vinegar-soaked sponge), and soon Jesus began breathing normally again.
What is more likely: For the first and only time in history a human being has come back from the dead OR that the person was never dead to begin with? It's easier to believe what we desperately WANT to believe than consider the possibility of a misdiagnosis made by a bored amateur executioner anxious to finish an unpleasant assignment. Jesus was a relatively young, strong, healthy man who died less than three days following the crucifixion -- some people hung on the cross for weeks before dying.
"Resurrection" is a far more rewarding belief than acknowledging the possibility than he never died at all.
i never used to watch this show because i was looking for debate untill i watched one by accident. best debate based group appealed video. there are many contradictory christians on here. love it.
In our family, "godparents" were/are the people, who would take me/child in, if the parents are killed it was a way to know that the family would care for lack of better wording care for their own.
My wife was just made a god parent by her sister, and her sister gave my wife a book on how to be a good god parent. My wife is a believer in her own personal god, and really hates all of the hypocrisy of the religious.
I am an atheist. I have no problem with my wife's beliefs.
Both of us laughed our asses off reading this "guide" book on being a good god parent.
Garry - fastest deconversion ever
Full call (worth it): 47:58
Dillahunty destoyer: 52:41
Matt's emotion was justified. He did not get Glen-Beck-emotional. He controlled it very well while Isaac did not on hold. His rant was accurate and passionate, and in my view quite restrained. I applaud his courage to say what needs to be said.
Sounds very interesting. If you still have the research on it I'd love to read it. There are some interesting theories on the demiurge and the old testament god as well that you may find interesting.
bahahah that last guy was hilarious XD part of me wants to hear the crazy shit he was screaming into his phone, but that entire scene was too entertaining to care what he had to say ^.^
You deserve to get as good as you give.
so what channel does this come on or is it like an internet thing because i would like to call in and pick their brains
Someone once referred to me as a 'fairy godmother' because I'm a godmother who's an atheist. Gotta say, I love that term!
Hey guys! Great episode as always, I wanted to know if any of you have twitter? There are some profiles but I am unsure if they are legitimate.
nothing wrong with getting angry a bit , its funny too ahahah
The next episode will be posted tomorrow after the show airs.
When it comes to godparents "i make him an offer he can't refuse"
I have to give kudos to Brent from CA. He seems willing to learn and admits when he doesn't know something. You don't see a lot of callers like that. Keep reading and learning, man.
it was more a discussion about whether dead or nonliving things could be made to live again.
25:50 LOL this could have appeared in a comedy film haha
Did they not do an episode this week where is #772?
I can't agree more fiercely.
Thanks for calling, Eugene. Lol
Even though I know this nonsensical question still comes up. I'm still somewhat surprised to still see it, but It still gives me a chuckle. So thanks for the nonsensical question it kind of reminds me of the old show "kids say the darnedest things".
"I dub thee saint Hannas" "...Hitchenss"
It wouldn't have been unheard of, especially in the days before ekgs and such, for someone to have been prounounced to be dead to "come back to life".
I live in rural Alabama. I only know two other atheists personally. But on the internet, it is so different. It gives me hope!
Oh, Isaac, thank you. I needed a good laugh, today.
I'm an atheist and have 4 god children from 3 separate families. One was when I was quite young, but the last two have been recent additions and the families know I'm a complete atheist. My job is one of moral guidance, not religious. These people have chosen me to be the moral compass for their children. I am honoured to have been chosen.
I was asked to be my nephew's godfather and it caused me a lot of "soul-searching" as my sister-in-law is a serious Catholic. In the end, I accepted, but only after we discussed how I would teach him about the faith. That I would make it clear that this is not my personal belief, but that his mother strongly believed it. As a confirmed Catholic, I could teach him what the church would teach, and I would not argue against it to him. That was acceptable to my sister-in-law, so I did it.
lol, I remember when I first discovered these videos.... I think I was locked inside my house for the next week or so. haha goodluck!
Isaac is probably still ranting into his phone right now !
771 weeks... Does that mean you've been doing this for 14 years? o_o keep up the great work :)
Greetings from Mexico, I like your program but I was very difficult language and would like to make a request if possible sumtitularlos to Castilian. thank you very much
(part 3)
I noticed this as a kid when I watched my classmates talk about weird things that happen. One kid would say "ghosts" another would say "demons" and sometimes someone might say something smart. Usually the smart conclusion is so different from the other conclusions that it tends to becomes the odd one out. My guess is that this is similar to what happened in the past that formed cultures of superstition.
Holy shit. Matt's statement cleared so much up for me that I would often think about before. Like wandering often about the laws of physics. I can't believe I never realized it, but it's not laws set in place, it's reactions between substances in the universe. I think that I think of them that way because of theistic arguments always cramming in "Laws DEMAND a law giver!" They don't realize that that statement doesn't make sense, and I didn't before either. Even though I'm atheist. Thanks Matt.
"He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe what is false and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness" 2 TH 10-13
I agree with you. If someone's family and social circle revolves around church events, it is very hard to admit being atheist or even consider the possibility.
still a fair amount of shows.....
kudos
The fact that an explanation for something exists in a very specific context with very specific evidence does not mean that explanation can be appropriated without that context or evidence for an entirely different purpose.
There should be more shows like this that addresses atheism in a social context like what to do at an atheist funeral or how to raise children without faith but still introducing them to a society that is full with religiosity
Isaac's call had me laughing my ass off!
Just a note on people "rising from the dead after 3 days." Stuff like that actually happened a lot before the advent of modern medicine and better diagnostic tools. It's in fact, the historical basis for a traditional "wake" before burial. The concept is actually not at all "extraordinary," or in any way supernatural. It just shows medicine wasn't always able to differentiate between conditions like comas and actually dead.
I buy Dillahunty Logic with my groceries every week
I agree, there's also a huge influence in language and culture that we don't even think about. Religion was one of the first concepts to bring structure to knowledge or the lack of knowledge. Now that we have been conditioned our whole lives of the concept of god it's hard to get away from.
Hitchens & Fry did the best job of speaking on the Catholic church being a force of good or evil in the world, as asked about 48min in
I'm an atheist godparent. I used to be Catholic (before ate started asking questions) but while I was I became a godmother. I was present for her baptism and all that, but in south Louisiana the terms Nanny and Paran (godmother and father, respectively) are more titular than religious. I'm more a favored aunt than anything.
In all fairness to the abiogenesis guy, he was correct. Scientists have not been able to demonstrate that a protein (enzyme) could arise through natural means. However, they have been able to demonstrate that amino acids, and vesicles made of a lipid bilayer CAN. As for proteins, no. At least not yet.
I couldn't agree more with Matt's description of the Catholic Church.
ps..If after questioning your own truths you STILL come to the conclusion that you are a Christian, then just be happy, enjoy it, spread peace and love, just realise it is YOUR truth, and shouldn't be imposed on others.
Hell I didn't realize I had so little left! I've sent it now.
"I'm done wiith this discussion" whips head back and sasheys out of the room in a huff. LOL you sure showed me.
Haha, that guy 'from Canada' is the same one from calls before, from Texas.
I have other stuff to do, and there's lots to write, so it'll take some time before my message can be sent. You have already made me a certain deist to an agnostic deist.
One of the flaws in Micah's argument that I don't think that Jen or Matt mentioned is that Micah is essentially arguing that if we don't have a natural explanation about how a snowball can melt and reconstitute itself three days later exactly as it was without a snowflake out of place, then there is no way that we can have a natural explanation for how a snowball could form in the first place. The comparing the two different situations is like comparing apples and oranges.
Micah's script did not allow for hosts' actual answers and clarifications.
the first caller was definitely tripping on acid
Plastic is a nonbiological material without a central nervous system. It's like saying because a clod of dirt doesn't undergo nuclear fusion, that nuclear fusion is directed by a magical force which flows throughout the universe and happens to really care whom a person sleeps with.
The resurrection being similar to abiogenisis is a huge equivocation fallacy.
pause pause pause your on hold, your yelling at yourself. LOL
Just out of curiosity, have you seen the movie "The Man from Earth"?
That guy at the end, bahahahaha
It never fails to make me laugh the way Isaac's voice is legit QUIVERING with...rage? nerves? Nervous rage?? lol Calm down, guy!
Canada gets a little cold. I'm Canadian, and my AC is broken. It's hell!
@Ben Raga Awesome movie.
I had no idea what I got father was until now