r/Bestof My Husband Put Our Child into a TORTURE DEVICE
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:10 Dad puts kid in torture device
3:50 Can you imagine being their neighbor
4:28 My wife's parents aren't allowed to watch our son anymore
12:17 Prove your pregnancy or move out
"Sneaky Snitch" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License: CC By Attribution 3.0 - Komedie
I hope that husband has to pay every single medical expense for the rest of that kid’s natural life. If he ever gets out of jail
The judge who reinstated the unsupervised visitation should be on the hook as well.
This is absolutely a case of assault on a minor. Utterly brutal. The father and his wife need prisontime.
His natural life, let the kid live to 120 with the health to smirk at 15 more
He would beg to stay in jail, if I was the mom
@@BenKonosky no disagree cause judge was acting on unbiased opinion, so if he had ruled against him he could a get a different judge to the case since from what courts heard at the time is that he made mistake and learned lesson, b, op can sue the courts for misjudgement and from again what the courts heard he would have some what of a decent case, so you can't blame the judge on this one especially if the court is going off unbiased opinion
I'm so angry with that family court judge in the first story. Nobody who would even think of doing something like that is a person who could "learn their lesson", he never should have been allowed visitation again. I wish terrible judges had consequences.
exactly. Ik its a thing that "ooh family courts are biased towards women" but this is one situation where it should've been biased to the woman
Yep. I'd be throwing the new facts into their face, being like "you see what YOU did to my child?!?!". This is entirely that judge's fault. The father should have never gotten unsupervised visits after the first time.
That judge treated it as if he's a kid who committed a minor offence. "I'm sorry" doesn't fix what you did dude, Jesus Christ. You PUT A KID IN A BRACE!
@@066kshitizvsingh4 Some judges just fuck shit up. When they should be baised to women they're aren't. Then when they are they give children to the most abusive mothers imaginable. Some family judges sometimes just make the most depressive decisions.
@@dracko158 And then did it again so bad she's permanently disabled.
He shouldn't LOSE custody he should lose his freedom... Throw him in prison
He was
@@skorpiongod Do it again!
hopefully the other inmates find out what the ex and stepmom are in for. They'll dole out some proper justice
Send in the booty warrior
Break his arms first.
Mad props to the little girl in the first post. She was able to sneak out and found someone to help her. That was very brave!
I'm putting blame on the court. The first time incident should've been the last
No "but he learned his lesson"
Thanks to them that girl is permanently disabled and had things she loved taken away from her
Because the father was ordered counseling and parenting classes so he got another chance after getting help
Would it be possible to sue the court system? Those people should be paying for the young girl's rehabilitation aside from the da-, I mean sperm donor, plus his awful partner in crime!
@@iris5678 stories like this are why I stopped working in child protective services. Went back to school and now I work with victims of domestic views. Because those classes are worth anything. 99% of them go back to doing what they were doing before. Sometimes even worse. Reunification shouldn't be the goal it should be what's best for the child. Stories like this and Gabriel Fernandez are not unique they are just not talked about
@@iris5678 And we saw how well that turned out
@@fanfictiondreamer7836 You can, but it's risky...As you're suing court
"I f---ing want to k*** both of them."
This line from OP pretty much summarizes my feelings about that first story. Jail is too good for them.
They knew that what they were doing was wrong, which is why they took the daughter's phone to stop her from calling for help. Heck, I can't even think of an insult bad enough to describe these two monsters.
nah let the inmates take care of them. death penalty is too expensive
@@GiordanDiodato Yeah, that would work too.
It's the kind of case that makes me wish that, as soon as the jury returned a guilty verdict, the judge could just say, "Bailiff, take them out back and shoot them."
Or or better option put them IN THE BACK BRACE
Not kill them, I would prefer seeing him suffer for a long time! I would visit the other people that was in prison with him and give them presents to make them want to make his life in prison a living hell!
First Story: OP's ex husband and his wife are literally abusing their daughter. A wooden back brace? That sounds like pure torture. This man shouldn’t be allowed near his kids. Oh, so the double down and went to steele instead?!
The comment: I agree, I wonder how the neighbor felt in that situation
Second Story, NTA: OP's MIL did things with their child without the parents' consent. I agree with how OP feels, OP's MIL undermined OP's authority as a parent
Third Story, NTA: Until proof is shown, as far as I know the girlfriend isn’t pregnant (like tests or obvious signs of being pregnant or sympthoms). It seems like brother's girlfriend is trying to take advantage of the treatement actual pregnant women get. Wow, they really tried hard to sell that lie. Honestly, both OP's brother and his girlfriend deserved to get kicked out. Exhausting is an understatement
Hey! They added cloth to it!
It's time to play a game of:
*HOW MANY LAWS ARE THEY BREAKING*
@@GamerGrovyle yea um that wouldn't help with it not being abuse lol.
@@DedraAmbroseandSnowI’m sure it was satire
They should have to wear this (brace) for a year and see how they like it...Jesus.
The “Couple” in the first story needs to be strapped in their OWN torture device and see how THEY like that!
They DESERVE the pain and suffering they put OP’s daughter through! And LEGALLY, they’re in DEEP TROUBLE with the law AND deserve to be slapped with a lawsuit for the daughter’s medical, surgery and therapy fees!
Yes, I agree that they should go through what they put the little girl through. Not only to show them exactly what they did to their daughter but to also make them suffer. But I'd like to see them be in a device every day while serving time and not just the same amount of time the little girl endured. The part where she has to deal with life long consequences with her shoulder is horrifying!
Judge as well.
@@iamhungey12345 The judge basically took a gamble on whether or not they’d do that again, but what he gambled was a little girl’s life.
@@kranberry3318 Exactly!
Story 1: WTF?! The father and his wife did all this damage to this poor baby girl for slouching!? What vile and disgusting people they are! I cannot imagine the pain she was and is in. They KNEW it was wrong as to why they took her phone!! Unbelievable how disgusting these 2 people are and thank you CPS for getting that infant out of their!!
Yeah, it's basically "You will NOT tell your mom we're injuring you!"
And if you think about it, they're complete idiots too! What? Did they think this whole thing would some how not get back to mom? Even if the poor girl didn't sneak out of the house, the mom would have found out the next time she came to pick up her daughter, and they'd be completely screwed then.
@@akl2k7 Probably thought they'd get away with it again
@@akl2k7 Just like an old report in the papers one day. An offender who committed multiple awful offenses against children was determined to have chained himself up, dragged himself half a mile into a cornfield, and beat himself to death. Case ruled a suicide.
out of there
I don’t want to be insensitive, but the first dad really said, “Well, if wood doesn’t work, then metal will!”
It was the step mom who said that it seems and the father made it for the evil step mom
Don't worry, there are some thing where you just... They're so awful you have to laugh.
Don't worry he added fabric
(Sarcastic)
I read that in rslash's entitled guy voice
You're not being insensitive bedbugs that story is untrue. Anyone whose ever been to family court can tell you there is absolutely no time for all that to have happened.
I love the update because the husband lost custody. I hate everything else about it. Dude and his wife are just evil. Glad they got the infant taken before they ruin another child.
That girl in the first story is so brave. What the hell is wrong with them, they have ruined her health.
I cannot imagine what she must be going through. They may have disabled her for the rest of her life! The things she once enjoyed she may never be able to partake in again. My heart goes out to her and I hope against hope she fully recovers.
the only hope i have is the fact that she's a kid and kids are known to bonce back from some things like that. i'm praying that the doctor is cutting their bets and going for the extreme negative and the kid's prognosis is not as bad as it sounds. fuck those monsters, they deserve to be locked up and never allowed around children again! we need a child abuser registry like we have for sex offenders!
Simple fact is... they're evil.
I'm so so proud of her for running away and speaking up! It takes a lot of guts to reveal abuse from a parent. Hope her rehab goes well and she can go back to playing sports-
@@abiean222 Child abuser shock collars. Give the child a remote control that allows them to deliver a painful shock at the push of a button to their abuser.
Story 1
So there was an actual serial killer that would force folks into “braces” that made people unable to move or scream.
The husband put the girl through something used by a serial killer.
And for those curious, Casual Criminalist covered it. i believe this was “The beast of Senec”
I looked them up at your suggestion. I now have another person to listen to on my commute to and from work. Thank you!
lol Senec is town in Slovakia, not far from me like 10 km 😂 but! i have never heard of this killer, so thank you for that! 😊
@@SuperSenshi Simon has another 11 or 12 channels besides CC. They're all really good, although I'm particularly fond of CC and Geograhics
@@musicaltheatregeek20 oh, two more Simon channels I did not know about. I don’t think 12 channels are close enough, it’s probably closer to 20. Simon himself doesn’t even keep track of all the channels.
@@musicaltheatregeek20 also the biographic channel is really good. Should be up your alley if you like the cc and geographic channels.
Last story: OP it doesn't matter who was telling the truth. The end result is that both of them were lying to you, was eating all of your food, and you do for free housing. Neither of them should ever be allowed to live with you ever again.
I was thinking that too - does it really matter who started it or who told the first/bigger lie? They're both at fault, they both participated in the lie to take advantage of OP, just kick them out already. (and if mom and dad think that is the wrong decision then let mom and dad take the buttholes in).
I am happy that OP eventually did come to that conclusion.
Whoever the family judge is, he needs to be fired and to never be a judge ever again. If they are only given a slap on the wrist, them repeating it will be highly likely if there wasn't severe consequences for the ex-husband and wife. And who the hell gives someone a slap on the wrist after the ex-husband and a clean record, and "says he's sorry"? Abuse is abuse!
The ex-husband and wife are monsters, don't get me wrong, but the negligence of the judge is what pisses me off the most.
Parents displaying these behaviors are often made to take parenting classes and counseling in MANY courts. In some states the Judges probably HAVE to order that first. Ex husband was ordered to go to counseling and take parenting classes and I think the wife was too
If the parent does this and shows they can change, they get another chance cause some parents do change.
@@iris5678 When I comes to physical abuse it's a different story
Well maybe the ex-husband and his new wife get in trouble for obviously lying in court? Do be fair to the judge we don't know what convincing act the ex-husband put on. Maybe his therapist gave him a positive outlook. But I agree, the judge should face an investigation and if so disciplinary action.
@@oida10000 It doesn't matter what the husband says there shouldn't be any excuse to put a child in a torture device...
Very easy for you to say in hindsight, but it was not an unreasonable decision at all. The judge didnt know this would happen, how would he? People deserve second chances - its easy to look at a situation like this and say they do not but you are forgetting the 95% of other cases where they do get better. The first time could well have been a genuine mistake made out of ignorance so I think permanently removing visitation seems a little harsh.
The dad permanently disfigured his child bc his wife said she slouched.
True...love..???
crippled, not disfigured. Even worse.
Is it bad that I think op should try fixing the ex husband's brain with a baseball bat is fair given the archaic backbrash they made?
@@jaye4157 I think that's fair.
@@jaye4157 I suggest putting steel spikes on that baseball bat.
The thing that makes the first story even more insane is that there's specific products that have been made to help with slouching. It's essentially fabric that you put over each shoulder (kinda like a backpack) held together by elastic at the back that slightly pulls your shoulders back to stop you from slouching, and it's completely safe. Yet they went for a medieval torture device instead?
it was never about the slouching. the whole thing was started because the stepmom wanted to punish her stepdaughter and or OP. it was all about power and control and bringing about pain for some imagined slight. OP said her daughter was athletic, the stepmom might have been jealous or just against girls in sports or she might just be a sadist who enjoys tormenting those weaker then her. the father is either spineless and goes along with his new wife, a misogynist who doesn't view women, and thus his daughter, as people, or is a sadist on a power trip. its not about poster, its about control and causing pain. and people like that will never change.
slouching was just an excuse to torture the kids
Smart kiddo to run away when she could. Mom taught her well what to do when you need to escape a bad situation. But holy shit, that poor girl. I’m so angry for her and at her dad and stepmom. I hope they get severe sentences for what they did.
Sorry but the first judge that let dad have his kid back after he got “ help” needs disbarred
Because judges have crystal balls to show that the dad was not truly sorry and it would happen again?
@@iris5678 I worked in child protective services and yes you do have a crystal ball. 99% of people who abuse their children get help in these glasses go back to doing exactly what they were doing before the classes.
what I don't understand is why she didn't just TALK TO HER HUSBAND ABOUT IT. Like it gets me legitimately mad when I'm reading stuff about supposed "couples/spouses" and they don't have even the most BASIC of communication. You guys are supposed to be married. MARRIED. Just go to your husband and say "hey, my parents keep harassing me about baptising our child and I'm starting to get worn down and distressed about it, can we talk about our options going forward" AND BAM. LITERALLY. The problem could've been SOLVED then and there. The husband may have agreed to it if he was involved, he might've said "okay, if this is stressing you out and they're not gonna stop, we'll just get it over with". OR he might've supported her and helped her through it.
I seriously don't understand the mentality of going behind your spouses back over this instead of just TALKING about it. What was the point of marrying if you're still gonna act like kids skirting around the topic?? Even I don't act this way WITH MY FRIENDS. If I have an issue with my friend, or if I'm worried, or if something is going on or what have you, I talk to them about it. I open a line of dialogue because relationships require open and honest communication to move forward.
This was obviously a huge boundary for OP that she just blatantly ploughed through like an idiot. If she had just TALKED to him, none of this would've been a problem! I understand that abusive parents can weigh you down and stress you out and until you're ready to just give in, but the whole point of a HUSBAND is to be able to confide in him about her feelings. if she was really stressed, she would've had to actively hide it from him. it just boggles my mind.
Why can't people act like adults when in an adult relationship? communication is the most basic of basics. it's ridiculous how many issues could be solved if people just talked about things, and it's even MORE ridiculous how many issues get caused and blown out of proportion because they DON'T talk about things!
@@Someone-or8tp what gets me is EVERYONE jumps to seeking therapy at once .. you mean that you just can’t sit down and discuss anything without the supervision of a counselor?
@@lillyvonshtup7314 exactly. For things like this, why is a mediator necessary? Especially before the complete betrayal from the wife, when she was just dealing with harassment and not planning to go behind her husband's back. But even partially afterwards. Maybe if she hadn't gone straight to gaslighting and had come forward right away, MAYBE things could've been salvages even with the huge breach in trust. But she didn't.
Honestly, if you can't talk about easily resolved issues without someone there to guide the discussion, then bloody hell WHY get married in the first place? The OP put trust in his wife and she would basically rather ruin that rather than have an open and honest discussion. It truly baffles me.
Again, I completely understand that the wife may be in the FOG or stuck in a cycle of abuse, but if she's not going to open up to someone she's supposed to commit her heart to for the rest of her life BEFORE it gets bad, then why choose councilling after she's already dug her grave?
Councilling should be for couples that are struggling to work through serious issues. This could've been literally NOTHING. The only reason it escalated is because the wife, for some reason, chose to do something stupid behind her husband's back. If she had been upfront from the start and said that she just wanted to end the stupid feud and get a baptism, I guarantee you that even if the OP disagreed, he probably would've been more forgiving of her thought process. The issue is the betrayal and the actions. If he had known she was weighed down by this, he could've helped her. The whole point of being someone's partner is to support them.
Like you said, if she can't do the bare minimum and have a chat with her husband one-on-one, why should he give her the floor to do so with a councillor?
This could've been a non-issue, a small fight maybe, that could've been resolved with trust, respect and compromise. Instead, the wife CHOSE to continuously deceive OP and blow everything out of proportion. Absolutely ludicrous.
I know that issues like that are bound to happen in a relationship. Maybe someone bottles up their emotions and snaps, creating a huge argument. Maybe words fail sometimes. Maybe even after the conversation there isn't any closure. Humans aren't perfect and every relationship is bound to have hiccups. But as long as it's talked over in the end and worked through thoroughly, then fine. Something like this, a covert plan behind someone's (who has complete trust in you, enough to have to be told by outside forces from reddit that you're suspicious and not even think that on their own) back, is a huge breach of trust.
The torture one is so wild. I hope the dad never gets custody for either kid and goes to jail
Shoutout to the thumbnail
*First OP:* I normally don’t condone violence, but I hope OP’s ex husband and his wife get jumped in prison. Then they get thrown under the jail. Those two can go passionately hug themselves.
*Second OP:* I was _not_ expecting that plot twist. It’s been two years since the update; I wonder if OP went through with the divorce. I hope OP did because his wife betrayed his trust. Also, OP was NTA.
*Third OP:* I like how OP:* is the youngest out of the three, but also the most mature. Looks like OP is related to a Kevin, who’s dating a Kelly, lol. OP was NTA.
Ex-Husband and his New Wife from story no. 1 will actually have really bad in Prison, because Child Abuse/SA/Murder of Child are not really tolerated
That second story is just so slimy. If the wife is willing to conspire against him for a baptism, who knows what other filth she’ll be willing to lie about
I'm of Catholic background (atheist now). What they did was definitely against the rules of the church. The Priest should be kicked out of the church too.
You are overeating, what the mother in law did was bad but if there where no problems before this i don't think you should get this mad
@@primordialpink nah trust is broken between op and the wife. If you can't trust your partner, you should separate. To conspire and manipulate your spouse is abusive and toxic.
@@xeedflarian9748 I agree, when you’re in a marriage you HAVE to communicate. The wife decided to lie for months and specifically do something against OP’s faith and disregarded OP’s choice.
I'm wondering if the wife's idea of counselling or family therapy is to persuade her husband to accept the baptism by wearing him down. But yeah... if you don't want your kids to grow up catholic, don't marry anyone with a catholic background.
The frist story is horrible! I dropped over 20k against false abuse allegations, without evidence and even the kids say no nothing happened. Here we have a clear cut case and he got his vists reduced!? It's been 2 years now and I'm still trying to get my finances in order to get back to court to see my kids again.
i'm guess the father is a white Christian and the judge who allowed him to see his kid is either the same or negligent or an friend.
@@abiean222 If I get any whiter I'll be a flipping albino. However I'm a far cry from a Christian. Maybe that's where I went wrong.
@@Ravenofthewood there is a bias among Christians that nonchristians are evil and deserve misfortune.
Story 2: They both violated OP's trust AND broke a serious church rule, and they think OP is the monster? Wow, they're the ones more likely to get a seat in Satan's world, not the grandson
Christianity is abuse. But whatever karen.
@@brialapoint2608 Don’t lump good Christians with bad Christians
That wife was so toxiclly feminine she had that 'the man is the head of the family but I am the neck' but the husband sounded like he wanted an equal partnership. Just ew
“we saved your son from satan”
satan: … huh, two new spots opened up. wonder wh- [checks reason] oh.
@@brialapoint2608 lmao those people were catholic not christian 😂
When you were reading the story about OP's MIL having his son baptized, without his permission. Even from the start, I was having a feeling that OP's wife knew that it was going to happen was 2 reasons. Before OP's update, confirming that the wife knew ahead of time.
First was her parents just showing up at their church and having OP's son baptized. I know that something like that, parents have to book well in advance, time at a church to have that done... and pay for it.
And Second, how the wife responded once they found out.
I'm like 90% sure rslash covered the baptism story but it's good to hear an update.
He did cover this but yeah it is good to hear an update
8:15 Imagine using your anniversary, of all times, to trick your husband.
Story 2 is just sad… OP’s wife allowed her mother to convince her to join in a conspiracy to lie to a priest and break Catholic law to save the soul of the child, ignoring that they damned themselves.
And since divorce is SUPER against Catholic doctrine, OP’s mother-in-law brought it about because of her inability to let others live how they want to.
From a religious standpoint, it’s just sad all around.
1: you only need one parents permission to baptise a child. And they had the wife's so they're clear on that regard.
2: as to divorce, well they could probably also get an annulment. I'm pretty sure "refuses to raise kids Catholic" is a valid reason.
3: how the hell did they get to marriage and babies without discussing views on raising the kid religious?
From an atheists standpoint, it's ridiculous a mom would have to go that length to be able to have something important to her incorporated in her own baby's life. Especially by another atheist, a rare atheist that thinks baptism somehow has power...despite him being an atheist and baptized himself...since Lutherans do it after birth also.
It is sad all around. An atheist on a power trip giving power to something he doesn't even believe in, while disregarding his wife's feelings about something obviously important in her life.
@@Estarile actually for number 2, no sadly you have to have a pretty darn good reason for divorce, and not raising the kids catholic isn't one of them. In fact, a woman is supposed to follow her husband, even if he goes against the church, while at the same time keeping her faith. (It's very contradictory).
@@Rhaenarys where did you learn that? It's entirely contrary to everything I've read about annulments and divorces in the Church.
@@Estarile from my upbringing and further education into it. It's also in the Bible. Women don't have rights, we are property. Did you miss that part somewhere? When we are married, we become our husband's property. This is according to the Bible and is the same through all denominations. Hence, when a woman marries, she is to obey her husband, even if he isn't of the same faith, while maintaining her own.
That family court judge needs to be brought up on charges as well because it’s obvious that they need to retire or sued into retirement.
I feel for that little girl because as much as she loves her dad his actions have driven a wedge between them.
Her surgeries will be a constant reminder as to what her father allowed to happen to her while she was with him; thus she’ll never trust him to have her back.
r/Bestof is quickly becoming my favorite subreddit. I love knowing what happens to the r/AITA and r/entitledparents stories.
It makes me so mad that the dad and stepmom in the first story essentially ruined a nine year old's body forever just because they didn't like the way she was sitting...
I'm trying to understand how someone could be that isane, but it's just impossible. I hope they never get to be in contact with a child ever again.
The thing about baptism for me, is it is a spiritual choice for the one being baptized. When I was a kid, in a Lutheran church mind you, I saw kids my age getting baptized every week. I asked my dad why he didn’t have me or my siblings baptized yet, and he told me, he believed that young children/babies should not be baptized without understanding the significance behind it. He told me, that baptism is a an agreement between you and God to always follow him. It made me think about my own personal faith, and as someone who is now more spiritualist/agnostic, I’m glad my dad gave me a choice.
God, I didn’t realize till the end how young the daughter in the first story was. Brave damn 9-YO to run out at night and go to a neighbors house like that.
The first story: the ex and his wife don’t deserve kids in any way
I am in SHOCK! I mean, I know there are terrible court cases where abusive parents get awarded custody of their child multiple times after multiple offenses, but that doesn’t mean I am not throwing up in my mouth a little every time I hear it each time
Story 2: If the child is not from them, they should be asking what they can do with their grandson.
Well the mom birthed the baby...but I guess she has no say when it comes to an aspect of her life she finds important.
And apparently he's the rare atheist that thinks baptism actually has some sort of power to make his kid religious lol.
@@Rhaenarysptism is a huge religious symbol. If it was just “water and a few words”, _they wouldn’t do it_ . For an atheist, I can’t IMAGINE what it would be like to find out your son was forced into a religious custom without your knowledge, especially with everyone around him conspiring to do it. I would be furious. It’s not so much that OP believes it has power to make his son religious, it’s that OP didn’t want his son to be baptized and the in-laws did it anyway.
The oddest thing about the story is that the wife & MIL think it is OK to lie to the priest about the father's consent.
Also, OP does not say he is an atheist - he says he was raised Lutheran. If he still considers himself Lutheran, that means his wife and MIL baptised his child into a different faith, which would possibly be more offensive to OP than it would if he were atheist.
@@Rhaenarys regardless of his religious belief, it's still fucked up they went behind his back and did all this without his consent.
And do you really think they'd stop at just Baptism? They can't take no, so what makes you think Baptism would've been the cut off? Baptism was just the beginning. Anything they'd do alone with the kid would've been to further push their beliefs onto the kid without the dads knowledge.
Plus, the mother originally didn't want to baptize, the MIL pestered her to. In a way it was just her doing it to please her mother, she was peer-pressure into doing it.
@@gabrxael But to an atheist it is just 'water and a few words'... It only means more to those who believe in the religion. As for the second part, its quite a minor offense to have someone's child do something their parent did not want them to - its comparable to giving them pizza when the parents said not to which is actually probably worse in terms of actual consequences. OP's reaction seems completely blown out of proportion considering this, especially considering his wife agreed to it. He seems extremely controlling.
Yeah, I was really skeptical about the second story until the update, because there are loads of classes you're required to go through, and unless the kid was actively dying, the priest could get in serious trouble for performing a baptism without all the necessary preparation. It COULDN'T have been something done on the spur of the moment on a weekend.
He didn't say everything in the story, since that story alone would take 30+ minutes to go through.
The church struck the baptism from their records, banned the entire family from that church. They might have even gone as far as excommunicating MIL, but it's been a while since I heard this story.
@@BenKonosky You clearly do not have the slightest clue what you are talking about and are inventing your own happy ending LMAO
@@seb3209 I've heard this story on other channels with all updates, and that is literally what happens.
@@chippydippy1530 I have read all posts by that individual. It's not.
@@seb3209 sorry, you're wrong, and a liar, since you won't say what happened in your fantasy world. LMAO.
Story 1: So…that ex and his wife were caught torturing their daughter in an unlicensed and unsafe back brace and the courts just gave them their visitation back…because SURELY they won’t do it again. After all he’s “sorry. And he saw what he did was wrong.” Surprise surprise they do it again but worse. He DISABLED his own daughter. Thanks a lot courts
I like how they said the gender of the baby at 3 months. That ultra sound is typically at the 4 month mark, also they print off while you are there at the office. Their story was so unbelievable to anyone who has gone through a pregnancy.
honestly, even if she was pregnant, she is still in the wrong.
Being pregnant is not an excuse to being a glutton that eats everyone out of house and home.
@@miniman649 I didn't mean she was right, I just meant her milestones on pregnancy was wrong. They did no research on what they were trying to fake.
@@mindlessmeat4055 I think maybe they didn't bother doing research because the op in that story never had a kid so she wouldn't know if they were faking evidence
The only thing that really clues op into something being up was the fact the girfriend had a period still
You can actually still have a period during pregnancy but it's not really a period I remember hearing about it when I was pregnant
@@mindlessmeat4055 honestly, the 1st thing that'd tip me off is her eating a shit ton with no morning sickness. I know not every pregnant woman experiences it, but man, no way you're eating a ton of food without throwing up in general.
Story 1 sounds like a horror story and I'm appalled at the fact that, not only did he manage to get unsupervised visits again, but that he went right back into abusing her the moment he got her alone again... Wonder what contraptions they are going to use on their newborn if they get them back... SMH
I remember the 2nd story because I actually got into a pretty heated fight in the original comments with some idiot saying "It's just a baptism!" NO It is a betrayal! They thought they knew best so they lied for months and went behind OP's back... It is not even the baptism that he is really upset about he is upset because his "family" planned it behind his back...
Story 3 Don't fake pregnancies' it just ends up being lie after lie to cover it up till your caught. What was their long term goals here when they couldn't continue to lie? Fake a miscarry because that is 1000x worse IMO...
In regards to the second story, what would have happened next? Circumcision? When someone shows no regard for boundaries, anything is possible.
Catholics don't do circumcision. Just saying.
With the rest, though, I agree.
Water and cutting off parts are 2 different things.
Honestly, no way they were stopping at Baptism, that was just the start. They would've forced their religion on him everytime he came to visit.
@@Univerzion forced it how? Please describe the visit where the religion is being forced.
@Mari Posa The religion is being forced as in Catholicism both parents have to agree to raise the child Catholic, even if one is a different faith. The MIL was pressuring the mom to baptize the son WITHOUT telling OP. The way the MIL framed the baptism as “we saved his soul” she was most likely saying stuff like “Such a sweet kid, too bad he’s going to hell”. Also in Catholicism, the parents assign Godparents to assist the child in their religious journey; talk about scripture and faith and the sacraments. If OP had NO say in this that means MIL and FIL are probably the Godparents. This can be incredibly toxic since OP is a Lutheran and can have different interpretations that go against Catholicism and MiL could just say “well OP is going to hell since he’s not Catholic” and the kid would believe her as it’s his grandmother AND Godmother. This is the first step in a process that shoves OP out of his kids religious journey! Some faiths don’t baptize kids until the kid can decide for themselves if they want to continue their faith on their own (5 ish) but if they OP was expecting to do that MiL and wife took that choice from the son! Sincerely a Catholic married to a Baptist
First Story: Normally, a makeshift back brace is constructed using a 2 by 4 plank of wood. You tie it to the person around their waist and under their arms. Make it so that they cannot reach it themselves. A lot of Asian parents used to do this when I was younger. One girl ended up needing a torso cast to eventually undo some of the damage that was done to her and the last time I saw her in 8th grade about 20 yrs ago, she was still wearing it.
Story one makes me feel that when judges make bad calls like this they should be seen as accessory. OP said it wasnt safe for the kid to be with their father unsupervised and look what happened. The judge enabled a child abuser to repeat offend, and now the victims potentially impacted for life.
That first story: WTAF? I can't believe that. I'm glad that the ex and his new wife got arrested and that the infant is with CPS and that this girl's mother has her. I'm am literally shocked and speechless. This is so beyond messed up. How does someone do that to anyone let alone their own child? They are sick a**holes. They had to cut her out of the brace? Like OMG. That girl was smart for going to the neighbour who was a cop. I can't even imagine how the neighbour felt when this little girl shows up at their door in a torture device that her dad and stepmother put her in. I hope the daughter never has to go back there and that the infant child is never allowed back either. Protect those kids.
That second story: Okay, so the grandparents go against their wishes to not have their son baptized and OP is the a**hole for being pissed and laying ground rules? I don't get it. Also, as a Catholic, the parents and godparents (2 people who the parents decide will help the raise their child in the Catholic faith. It's usually the parents siblings, but can be friends or other family members) need to be present for the ceremony. All parties are supposed to vow that they will raise the child in the Catholic faith. The parents/legal guardians must be present and they must consent because of the whole "raising them in the Catholic faith" part of it. It's a lifelong commitment in the church's eyes so everyone needs to be on board. While yes it is just water and words and as the parents they could choose to look at it that way, the point is, the mother went against his wishes. And wife being in on it? Are you kidding me? As parents it's your job to be on the same page when it comes to raising your children. Yes your mother could be nagging you to baptize your kid, but it's your job to put her in her place and say "no. hubby and I agreed this is what we are doing. he is our child and we will raise him how we see fit. you don't have to like it, but you have to accept it."
Last story: If OP's parents care so much about these two liars then THEY can take both of them in
Simple, because it's the sibling's job to help their siblings, not the parents because the parents are retired from parenting.
@@spydersoup8447 Which is stupid since 1) said sibling is already adult so he can deal with his own issues like a big boy and 2) OP is not obligated to care for him. Period.
Story 1: Geez that’s really bad! When my ex made our son kneel for hours on tile while he had Osgood-Schlatters disease in his knee ligaments, I thought my boy was gonna have life-long problems but he ended up recovering from it when dad found a different torture method. I’m very grateful he’s been lifting for a couple years and is now 17 and bigger and stronger than his dad so no more abuse. I don’t understand how people get off on hurting kids!
Rslash, your takes on the second story are 🔥🔥🔥🔥. The irony of OPs wife saying “how can you make this decision on your own???”, the fact that baptizing the son was akin to cheating….dang go off
The first story: not only should the ex-husband and his wife never be allowed to see his daughter and their infant ever again, the father should be forced to have a vasectomy, and the wife should be forced to have a hysterectomy, because those two should NEVER be allowed to reproduce EVER again.
Agreed. When parents are this terrible there should be forced sterilization. Like when Child Protective Services has to step in and take away kids over and over and over again. Yet they keep popping them out and treating them terribly
I got a feeling the dad is a perfectionist. Like the clean record gives me view that he is that person who said *everything needs to be perfect, or else.*
@@pippo17173 so was the dad in the movie “The Stepfather”. Just saying.
If you want to go pro revenge on your ex, once he's in prison make sure his fellow inmates know why he's there. He'll have a really bad time.
You’re evil. I think your idea is perfect! Same idea for his wife too!
Story 1 well I have heard people who hurt children get attacked in prison. So hopefully theres lots of that for the dad and his wife.
Words cannot express how horrified and enraged I am at the father and his new wife in the first story.
When I was a child, I had scoliosis and had to wear a back brace for over three years. My parents, of course, went to many doctors and professionals to determine what my condition was and how I should be treated. After careful consideration it was determined that curve in my spine was significant enough to warrant a brace in the hopes that it would deter the need for surgery. All of my braces, I had three, were cast by professionals to the specifics of my body, created with the correct materials. I was eight when I first started wearing them and to sum it up, wearing the braces were not fun or comfortable, sometimes painful, and often prevented me from being as active as other kids (sit-ups were not possible). However, I often had checkups to assure that I was okay and to see if the brace was helping me. What I'm saying is that even having a normal back brace is not easy, but my doctors knew what they were doing. It was a hard process, but it was for my own health and wellbeing.
The father and stepmother in this story? They disgust me. I can't imagine how cruel, cold, uncaring, and uniformed a parent would have to be to do this to their own child. As far as we know they have no medical experience, no medical evidence to show that their child is in need of a brace, and they did NOT have the proper medical materials. WHY, why then would you put your child in so much unnecessary pain and danger? Even a legit back brace is painful! I can't imagine how much excruciating pain the daughter must have gone through. And there is irreversible damage to this poor kid's mobility. This sickens me.
The one thing that makes me happy is that this brave girl escaped that house and informed the authorities.
Sorry for the rant. This story hit home.
First story: I'm also the type of laugh when I hear something shocking. Plus honestly, this situation is so absurd that you can't help but laugh even though it's not the least bit funny. Like imagine the neighbor waking up in the middle of the night seeing an 8 year old wearing that, having to explain to their fellow officers what happened then being forced to cut it off with tools. It seems like a tasteless joke that a sick person would tell. And yeah, I hope both OPs daughter and the ex and his wife's infant will never have see them again. Besides child abuse, isn't torture a life sentence verdict?
I do the same. People tell me I'm being cruel when I laugh or smile when someone tells me some somber news, but I just laugh completely on instinct even though I really am upset for them.
@@frosted_glaceon5513 Yeah I personally had suppress a massive laughter attack during a funeral. And I was really sad, almost to the point of crying but my instincts went to laughter.
Reminds me of the Joker.
Story 2: get a divorce, I don't like to outright suggest that because I think it should completely be OP's choice but the fact that she planned to keep this from you forever, then when that plane failed she tried to gaslight you showed that this woman can never be trusted again. This goes beyond baptizing your son without permission, your wife is way too comfortable keeping decisions about your child a secret from you.
There was no gaslighting. Just lying lol gaslighting is severely overused and incorrectly used these days.
Previously OP even suggested counseling prior to the update which she refused. The update further proves that she can’t be trusted. I’m sure she’ll change her tune about the counseling when served with divorce papers
It’s an old story. MIL couldn’t keep her trap shut because a fanatical believer. She felt what she did was just and the ends justified the means. What’s really bad is the wife is too. Or just too much of a follower. I lean to believer because there really isn’t that much difference between a Lutheran and a Catholic. I say this as someone raised Catholic. The arguments between denominations frankly crack me up. It happens in all faiths unfortunately. Even atheists fight amongst themselves on who’s the true one. It’s human nature. This could have been avoided if both partners attended both churches and had their son baptized in each church. Of course MIL would have tried to stop that. At that point you say “you want him baptized or not?” At least OP would have found out sooner his wife, deep down, wants their son raised in her denomination and not his. I’m guessing that’s the real reason they don’t go to a church. If it isn’t Catholic then I’m just not going. It’s a shame really that a marriage is broken by this. They were both raised as Jesus as Lord and Savior.
@Robert Easley the marriage broke because of a serious breach of trust. This is why I am an atheist and exactly why I wouldn't partner with someone devoutly religious. Probably wouldn't happen as I'm LGBT, but even for me this would have been a huge betrayal of trust.
I can't help but wonder if the wife had been asking and trying to get OP to agree to get their child baptized, maybe even get involved in the church again? She could've just made her wishes known but did OP just disregard her? I'm guessing maybe not or OP would've mentioned that. Sounds more like the wife was just going along to appease her mother. That's too bad because it eventually cost her the marriage.
Story 2 this is what happens when people think they know more than their spouse.
and the 1st story shows how much of a failure the court system can be
As someone who is pregnant, my doctor can only print the sonogram photos on a disc, and I have only been able to print them off as actual photos. I'm also limited to 1 cup of coffee or 2 cups of tea. Basically I have to stay under 300 MG of caffeine. I know every pregnancy is different but doctors are very firm about caffeine, sugar, and sodium intake
Everytime I hear stories of parents abusing their children, my heckles go up on the bad parents. These ones more made me feel really bad for the people going through it over the anger.
He gave his daughter nerve damage over her slouching. He deserves prison.
My foster sister had a similar story to story 1. One of the things that led to her being in the system was when she lived with her mom she would often be put in the care of her aunt while her mom did stuff with her siblings (her siblings were spoiled while she was designated punching bag). This aunt HATED her. She hated that she was fat, that she was a tomboy, and that she slouched. So this aunt would take the chains they used for the dogs, and she chained my foster sister to a kitchen chair for HOURS. In the meantime she would cook food and eat it in front of her and not let her have any. My foster sister still has back issues and disordered eating.
This is why the courts need to take things more seriously! They are forever giving kids back to abusers. Parents fight so hard against it but they just don't listen unless you allow it to happen so you can get tons of proof. Then when kids die, they point the finger at each other
That first story gave me flashbacks when i was a child. I was like 6 or 7 and my dad’s sisters thought that my tiny body was too fat and that i also slouched too much. So they forced me into corsets and when my mom found out she fucking freaked out and we moved. Gave me major body dysmorphia at very young age but thankfully i don’t really talk to my dad’s side of the family.
Story 1: Dear Satan, if you haven't already, can you please create a specific layer of Hell for parents who abuse their children?
God, that poor little girl. I was born with severe scoliosis and it has negatively impacted my life. I’m always in pain, can’t do normal things anymore, had to give up my dream job, and so much more. I hope this little girl gets a better deal and is able to heal as she grows up.
I've been listening to Rslash for a few years now, and these series of videos for best of updates, This is the first time I have literally had to pause after every single story due to the sheer audacity of the people. I mean torture devices being strapped to kids for having "poor posture", Lying to the husband and going behind his back to get a kid baptized, and lying about a pregnancy just to get a place, although all of these things are realistic in nature, that doesn't change the fact that they are all despicable actions
Story 2: wife said “this isn’t the kind of decision [OP] gets to make on his own”
She’s right, but it’s also not a decision the wife gets to make on her own either. And since they hadn’t talked or come to an agreement about it, it was a decision that shouldn’t have been made, and broke the trust of OP
Edit: the follow up most makes the reaction seem more realistic, given that the wife was in on it from the beginning
I believe she was referring to the going no contact with the grandmother part, not the baptism.
There is one good thing that could come of the first story: Most people in prison HATE child abusers
First Story: HOLY SH*T!! Those types of extreme posture devices were only used during a very short period of the Victorian era and were quickly banned due to how easily they could/did permanently damaged the children. Even then they were made from bone, fabric and leather (basically like a version of a corset). Wood and Steel? those two people are frikkin nuts!! 😱🤬🤢
When i heard the title of the first story i was like "ok they probably went to a museum and dad put the kid in one of the torture device there to play".
Couldn't possibly imagine this scenario.
This is exactly what I thought too then... Wow...
As someone else pointed out, there are things so bad that you can't help but laugh
On the second story, I spent my life knowing that my parents divorced when I was 2.5 years old because my father was upset that my mother and grandmother conspired to have me baptized behind my back. I sort of understood where my dad came from on this, but I didn't think it was a big deal since I am a non-believer myself. But my mother admitted on her deathbed that she also went behind my father's back and lied about birth control to have me against my dad's wishes. After this, I totally understand my dad. You can forgive, but once a pattern is started, you can't trust again.
The third story: "... his girlfriend who's 27 for a couple of years now."
When I just listen to that, it sounds as if she was 27 for years lol!
2:25 whatever stupid judge ruled to give him unsupervised visitation back needs to be disbarred for gross incompetence.
The fact that the ex and his wife took the daughter's phone away should tell you everything about their intentions.
Nothing wakes you up in the morning like some white-hot rage against abusive "parents"
The first story
The torture device was definitely the evil stepmother's idea and OP'S ex husband is a horrible father for letting his new wife talk him in to building a torture device for his daughter. I highly doubt they would have done the same to their own daughter and didn't want OP to know about them abusing her daughter so they took her phone. I am glad that OP'S daughter was able to escape her horrible father and evil stepmother and I am glad that the newborn was also taken away so hopefully she wouldn't grow up to be like her horrible parents.
Hey Rslash, you know that laugh your having at 4:11? As my favorite Comedian says "That's a horror laugh, it's when something bad is happening to someone else, and you are horrified just thinking about being in the same situation yourself" it's a natural laugh response, so don't feel bad! :P
I remember reading a story somewhere about a nurse who baptised, what everyone assumed to be, a dying baby so that the baby "wouldn't go to hell". The parents were Jewish, and the baby survived, and later down the line what that nurse did to the child came back to ruin the family's lives as the child was removed from their parents, despite the fact the parents were Jewish and the child had been raised Jewish, because they were baptised as a baby they were taken away.
What the grandparents did in that story is horrible and the fact the wife bucked under her mother's pressure and conspired to get it done is just..... "it's just some water" except it's not. It's never "just" this or "just" that, it has meaning, and it has consequences. The grandparents are not to be trusted and the wife certainly isn't. Divorce really does seem the way to go unfortunately, unless they can get councilling and cut the grandparents off entirely but I think the wife loves her parents too much and caves in to their demands too easily to even take the risk of staying with her. She could just as easily go behind OP's back again to let the grandparents see the kid. It's such a clusterf*ck
Wtf I highly doubt they list custody over a baptism someone else performed. What country is this supposedly?
1st story actually got me mad. What kind of screwed up parent does that. Some people straight up dont deserve a family and its truly sad.
Dont worry, RSlash. I understand your laughter at uncomfortable situations. This same thing caused me seriously issues when I was in boot camp. Imagine a drill sergeant yelling at a group of cadets and some lunetic in the back laughs out loud. That was me
Oh man I'm so sorry you had to deal with that I also have an inappropriate laugh when I'm nervous or scared and it's made people mad at me people just don't understand its basically a tic or a stress reaction you can't control it
The people in the first story deserves to stay in jail with the exact same torture device on them for the rest of their lives
1st story: OP had so much restraint. I would have gone to jail for beating the crap out of the ex husband and his wife after my child had to escape from their home to find help because she was being tortured. If the courts give them a slap on the wrist again, there is something seriously wrong with the court system.
2nd story: OP: we need to get into counseling because you are suspiciously okay with what your parents did.
OP's wife: * cries * No fair, you can't make decisions about our son on your own, it's just a little water!
OP: You were in on this, I can't forgive or trust you.
OP's wife: I admit it, but I'm sorry! You weren't supposed to find out. I'm a lying liar who lies, but let's do counseling, therapy, whatever you want!
3rd story: Doesn't matter if Brother was telling the truth or the GF, the common denominator is they both conspired to lie about a pregnancy so that OP would feel sympathy for them and allow them to live with her and be an unwilling hostage to their toxic relationship. They are both AHs and so is OP's mom for basically calling OP ignorant because she's never had a baby. You don't need to have had a baby to have common sense.
I have very severe scoliosis and need to wear a brace almost all day 24/7, and even a medically prescribed brace is extremely painful, I can’t imagine what it was like for the poor kid. Dear lord her parents are disgusting.
They have back braces that are a lot cheaper than what the stuff they used to make that torture device with. Also whoever was in charge of bringing her to the house failed miserably to look and see if there was no other stuff that would could potentially be another torture device.
Honestly most people wouldn't know what could be used to make one. Which was why op sent her with phone, I feel like op should of done hourly text so that when daughter stopped answering she could of sent a wellness check but probably didn't think her ex was stupid enough to do it again.
@@tiffanyverbeck7041 Op should've just told her daughter if she saw or heard her parents mention anything about a back brace to run away to the neighbors.
Also she could have had a police officer inspect the property to make sure that there was no sign of any device.
@@richewilson6394 again how many people think that someone is going to do the exact same thing they got it trouble for again and they probably controlled the kid before she could come up with a way to get out of there she's only nine after all
When I saw the picture and the title, I tought "maybe they're visiting some ancient castle or show, the father put the kid in a pillory for a few seconds because the kid wanted to experiment what it felt like, then released the kid, and someone's making a mountain out of an anthill". I underestimed people's stupidity. What the hell is wrong with some people?
STORY 2 : I'm genuinely too atheist to understand how some water and few words are a big deal. However I do understand the total disrepect that comes with it and how taking such decision behind OP's back is a clear sign that his wife and her parents can't be trusted. What other big decision could they take without his consent ?
I remember story number 2 but it's nice that rslash is recapping it again before giving the update. At least I know my memory is still working after last night.
The first story if reddit finds the ex reddit is going to do something very illegal
The first story. I have come across similar things when reading about how children have DIED because their parents abused them like that and it escalated so far that the children couldnt take it anymore physically. That sounds exactly like some of those homicide cases have started. Im so glad the child is out of that situation. (Im sorry English isn't my first language and I'm so enraged by that story it's hard to form coherent sentences)
First story: Can you sue the judge for enabling child torture?
I'm 100% with the OP on that first story. I would have murderous intent as well.
hey rslash! Ive been watching your videos for almost 4 years now and I watch them daily! just wanted to let you know that youre amazing and keep doing what youre doing!
You mean stealing people's stories and uploading them to CZcams to make money off of them while giving dog shit opinions? Do you not remember the woman who was being abused by her baby daddy's girlfriend and he told her that she was an asshole for wanting to take her child away from that abuse because she was "robbing him of his chance to be a father"
@@LadyZubat I don’t remember that video. Do you have a link?
@@LadyZubat also, it’s not “stealing” he gives credits and they’re stories that are uploaded online. However, I don’t support the fact that he may have said what you stated.
I would have had trouble controlling myself in the courtroom if I was in that scenario.
You're right about the baptism with 1 exception: if the child (or even an adult) is in immediate danger you can do a conditional baptism
I would kill someone if they did that to my children. How can you do that to your child? I am so angry just hearing about it! There aren't words sufficiently severe enough to describe my hatred for people like this.
Finally no longer sleeping at 5. Sad to not be here as you upload, but I enjoy hearing it right as I wake up! Thank you, Dabney.
A big problem I have with the baptism story, is that OP feels like the kind of person who, if the wife had explained to him why it's important to her, and even maybe gotten some counseling about the issue, would have been open to the idea 😭
Exactly
Story 1: They're too far gone if they're willing to use something similar to a medieval torture device. No sane human would use one.
If they're so concerned about the kid slouching, just politely ask to sit up. How hard is that?
patiently awaiting more R/Storiesaboutkevin
About the Catholic mum. She’s wrong about the baby going to hell. From what I read it’s still up to debate since a baby is to young to sin but still has fallen nature. Two main theories that I’ve seen is that they go to limbo or they just go straight to heaven. So the mum is not only rude but also theologically dumb.
Also what’s with the lack of communication from the wife.
For the last one, minus the boyfriend and pregnancy, our grandma has been doing that. She's out after Easter. She's been eating us basically out of house and home with 6 other people in the house, using our dishes without washing (or asking someone to wash) them, leaving her trash bags out for us to put out, talking shit about my Mom to my Aunt, etc. I love her as a Grandmother but as a person she is insufferable.
Rslash: “I laugh when I get anxious.”
Me: Same. I laugh when I get anxious too.