The WORST Breakups In NHL History | What Happened?

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    In today's video we go over the messy breakups of John Tavares and the Islanders Fanbase, Martin St. Louis, and Patrick Roy.
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  • @RobTalksHockey
    @RobTalksHockey  Před 2 lety +57

    What is the worst "break up" your team has had?

    • @homeofhockey7071
      @homeofhockey7071 Před 2 lety +7

      RTH your the best. I know this is not hockey or really a break up but a year and a half ago Tom Brady left the patriots.
      But ya paty Roy is the worst break up

    • @brandontownsend2756
      @brandontownsend2756 Před 2 lety +6

      Patrick Roy for sure

    • @charlieb308
      @charlieb308 Před 2 lety +6

      Jack Eichel because team sucks and they are fighting about surgery

    • @ibrobaifett7493
      @ibrobaifett7493 Před 2 lety

      @@charlieb308 I’m so salty that Eichel went from our saving grace to on his way out

    • @ibrobaifett7493
      @ibrobaifett7493 Před 2 lety

      Ryan O Reilly

  • @lannon4prez
    @lannon4prez Před 2 lety +571

    “I’m frustrated with losing. I think i’ll join the Maple Leafs.”

    • @BigAlvideos101
      @BigAlvideos101 Před 2 lety +26

      The Maple Leafs? Who the heck are they? I know of a similar name for a team, but they're called the Maple Laffs! 😉

    • @henrymanzano9168
      @henrymanzano9168 Před 2 lety +6

      I know,right? I was like, "But I thought you wanted to win". To be fair,though,the other frontrunners were the San Jose Sharks (rare for superstars to go west voluntarily) and the New York Rangers (which was out of the question)

    • @Nixonbutcher
      @Nixonbutcher Před 2 lety +3

      What is a Maple Leafs? All i know is Staples Left

    • @swavekbu4959
      @swavekbu4959 Před 2 lety +2

      That statement contradicts the laws of logic.

    • @Theskullcrusher10399
      @Theskullcrusher10399 Před 2 lety

      CONTINUES TO LOSE LOL

  • @12lego25
    @12lego25 Před 2 lety +274

    Patrick Roy and the Canadiens, 1995 was probably the worst moment of their History.

    • @jok3r906
      @jok3r906 Před 2 lety +3

      Considering the GM was behind the bench that wasn't glasses in...

    • @nullarc977
      @nullarc977 Před 2 lety

      The Rocket Richard riots were up there too.

    • @12lego25
      @12lego25 Před 2 lety +6

      @@nullarc977 I was thinking about that too. But I think losing their Best Goalie in their Team History might be the worst nightmare.

    • @12lego25
      @12lego25 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tspawn35 Yep. You're correct.

    • @drgnslayers
      @drgnslayers Před 2 lety +1

      @Darcy Ujvary Mario Tremblay and Patrick Roy were teammates in 1985-86. Sooner this month, they did appear in Uber Eats ads

  • @idkk87
    @idkk87 Před 2 lety +282

    After Tavares left the isles would make the 2nd round after then 2 strait conference finals possibly a Stanley cup final

    • @TN-wv6ok
      @TN-wv6ok Před 2 lety +57

      Might also mostly be because the Isles hired the best coach in the league, and put them in a very successful system to make them succeed?

    • @nullarc977
      @nullarc977 Před 2 lety +20

      @@TN-wv6ok I’m with you. I’m still mad the Caps didn’t just pay him after the cup. Haven’t made it passed the first round since.

    • @toastgalaxy776
      @toastgalaxy776 Před 2 lety +5

      imagine if they still had johnny t tho holy that would be a dynasty

    • @idkk87
      @idkk87 Před 2 lety

      @@toastgalaxy776 yup

    • @adamsandstrom1732
      @adamsandstrom1732 Před 2 lety +15

      And Tavares hasn’t made it past the first round in that time as well

  • @thejollyrancher6713
    @thejollyrancher6713 Před 2 lety +65

    Theo Fleury was listed at 5’5 155 lbs on his rookie card.
    He tied Joe Sakic for the WHL scoring league. Sakic was a first rounder, Theo was taken in the eighth round.
    Small players everywhere were being passed over until he forced his way into the NHL.
    St. Louis, Gaudreau, Kane, etc. wouldn’t have been taken seriously if Theo hadn’t been such a dominant player.

    • @JiggyMiggytv
      @JiggyMiggytv Před 2 lety

      So many short players in different sports have been snubbed for their height. I can’t imagine what it must feel like to put up numbers and have great stats but then when they see how tall you are, you get rejected. You would think that your high stats would show that your height doesn’t effect you at all. It actually has been proven that shorter players have a better centre of gravity, therefore making it easier to make fast manoeuvres. Which is a HUGE advantage over very tall players.

    • @jbatts834
      @jbatts834 Před 2 lety

      @@JiggyMiggytv only sport where that isn’t the case is soccer because there’s different positions and even then if your too too short then your getting snubbed as well.

    • @ThaLedg
      @ThaLedg Před 2 lety

      @@jbatts834 exactly. If Barcelona did not give Messi growth hormones, he would have never made the first team regardless of his otherwordly talent

    • @factsdontlie4342
      @factsdontlie4342 Před rokem +1

      Flames drafted 3 of the players you mentioned. Seems like they don't mind drafting small players.

    • @dan3307
      @dan3307 Před rokem +1

      People forget about Theo Fleury and how dominant he was for the Flames back in the day.

  • @mdurham2137
    @mdurham2137 Před 2 lety +53

    As a diehard Wings fan, lighting up Patrick Roy like that was the worst thing the Red Wings could’ve done. He ended up in the Western Conference and was a huge thorn in their side for years. 😂

    • @Thrashman-ye4cf
      @Thrashman-ye4cf Před 2 lety

      Ehhh, yeah they beat us that one year to get to the cup. He was a pest but we still got the upper hand on him most of the time

    • @jordancivic96
      @jordancivic96 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Thrashman-ye4cf not most of the time in the playoffs, just twice. 1997 and 2002 Conference Finals.
      Roy and the Avs beat the Wings in the playoffs three times. '96 Conference Finals, and '99 & '00 Conference semis

    • @broadstreet21
      @broadstreet21 Před 2 lety +1

      You want yo know more? Mike Vernon met with him for breakfast that morning, talked him into requesting a trade.

    • @mdurham2137
      @mdurham2137 Před 2 lety +4

      @@broadstreet21 That jumped out at me from this video because I’d never heard that before. From having breakfast to throwing hands at center ice in just a few years.

    • @b.c.2281
      @b.c.2281 Před 2 lety

      Man, the Avs-Wings rivalry was the best hockey I've seen in my lifetime, so I for one am thankful.

  • @airwavv7054
    @airwavv7054 Před 2 lety +97

    was so sad to see all of that happen with Marty, one of my favorite players of all time for Tampa. Should’ve been given the respect he deserved, worked his ass for us and gave us everything, couldn’t blame him for trying to do what would’ve best for him and his family

    • @onthegrow8403
      @onthegrow8403 Před 2 lety +3

      Jesus Christ you know nothing about hockey LOL Yzerman cut him from the 2014 Olympic team that’s why he left Tampa and asked for a trade …

    • @jesuschrist6688
      @jesuschrist6688 Před 2 lety +10

      @@onthegrow8403 Exactly… he was given no respect.

    • @onthegrow8403
      @onthegrow8403 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jesuschrist6688 Yeah but the original commentor said he did what was best for his family LOL the guy asked for a trade when yzerman didn’t put him on the 2014 Olympic team…simple as that

    • @airwavv7054
      @airwavv7054 Před 2 lety +12

      @@onthegrow8403 why does this mean i know nothing about hockey…his mother who if i remember right had cancer at the time was in New York and dying, which i remember hearing at the time influenced the decision. I was just sad to see him go when it all was happening

    • @drgnslayers
      @drgnslayers Před 2 lety +4

      I do agree with you, especially that he had a more successful career than EVERYONE who was drafted when St. Louis was eligible. He played at least 1000 games and did score at least 1000 points

  • @whitegd4100
    @whitegd4100 Před 2 lety +50

    Man Martin St. Louis was an amazing player. He was my favorite player my entire childhood. Wore his number all the way through Juniors too. From Junior B to Junior A. Then switched to my dads number when I got to college for LAX

  • @dessam3939
    @dessam3939 Před 2 lety +31

    I remember when Rick Nash demanded a trade out of Columbus and forced his way into the Rangers team and the Columbus fans turned on him for a while and whenever those teams played there were some loud boos. A mini rivalry did grow between those teams for the years Nash was on the Rangers but last I heard he was a director for the CBJ so at least the breakup didn’t get too sour.

    • @clipped6064
      @clipped6064 Před 2 lety +12

      Nash in Columbus was the definition of no help lmao

    • @henrymanzano9168
      @henrymanzano9168 Před 2 lety +1

      And after Panarin left, the Blue Jackets home opener player intros featured a song that said, "I got loyalty,loyalty,loyalty in my DNA"

    • @RomanSwak
      @RomanSwak Před 2 lety +1

      @@henrymanzano9168 Well, that's all they can advertise as having in their DNA, because success, money, or league recognition certainly aren't a part of it.

    • @psychwardsandcymbals
      @psychwardsandcymbals Před rokem

      @@RomanSwak did the jackets hurt little mans feelings?

  • @thetanksofworldwarii-tanka4368

    Jocelyn Thibault was no Patrick Roy, but he certainly was not a "fringe goaltender." He had a pretty decent NHL career stretching over 16 seasons with 586 games played.

    • @stivvits1067
      @stivvits1067 Před 2 lety

      Maybe he mean French 🤔

    • @pale_saint
      @pale_saint Před 2 lety

      I heard French not fringe

    • @drgnslayers
      @drgnslayers Před 2 lety

      Andrei Kovalenko was ready to return home when the season ended because he wasn't expecting the Habs to make the playoffs

    • @TheBobville
      @TheBobville Před 2 lety

      and if he meant french hes not lol. He's french canadian/ quebecer but you get it.

    • @goleafsgo8496
      @goleafsgo8496 Před 2 lety

      Have to also factor in Roy had to be traded and traded quickly. Can you imagine in hockey crazy Montreal how ugly that would have gotten if if it took weeks to find a trade partner? Once Roy said I want out basically Montreal was pretty much guaranteed to loose the deal.

  • @TP35YT
    @TP35YT Před 2 lety +77

    Islanders has won 6 playoff series after tavares departure
    Tavares has none

    • @Goldy02
      @Goldy02 Před 2 lety +7

      The Islanders also didn’t have Barry Trotz when Tavares was there

    • @TP35YT
      @TP35YT Před 2 lety

      @@Goldy02 true

    • @Windyyyyyyyyy
      @Windyyyyyyyyy Před 2 lety

      @@Goldy02 trotz also helped players such as Nelson, barzal, cizikas and pelech all become instrumental on that roster

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Před rokem

      @@Goldy02 Actually they did. Lou and Trotz met with him and he still left.

  • @superfrodo4
    @superfrodo4 Před 2 lety +6

    I am from Montreal, the local paper was saying to trade Roy in 1993. It's a miracle Price is still playing in Montreal.

  • @BloggerMusicMan
    @BloggerMusicMan Před 2 lety +13

    The one I remember most is Yashin in Ottawa. Two contract holdouts. Taking back a donation to the Museum of Art in Ottawa. A lot of goodwill lost even though he actually played pretty well for the Senators for the most part.
    My first hockey game in person was his return to Ottawa, and got booed mercilessly. At least Ottawa got something good back for him when he got traded.

    • @abrararifify
      @abrararifify Před 2 lety

      The Yashin one is literally the worst of them all. At least the trade that Ottawa got for him was a major fleecing and argubalby defined the franchise for a decade.

  • @Giblitzky
    @Giblitzky Před 2 lety +1

    Keep up the great work Rob! Big fan of all your hockey content and how you narrate the videos (plus being a chiclets fans brings bonus points)

  • @darienerfle2704
    @darienerfle2704 Před 2 lety +7

    You should do a video on nhl players that were traded from a team and then eventually traded back and how they reacted/performed back on a team they were previously traded from because being traded could be a big slap in the face

  • @alexhorner4061
    @alexhorner4061 Před 2 lety +2

    I love your videos your content is great and it makes my day to see that you posted. Keep it up

  • @scooterelway9191
    @scooterelway9191 Před 2 lety +1

    thanks as usual for the great quality video rob !!!

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 Před 2 lety +1

    Rob 56K subs, I was there with you a short time ago when 5K was the goal. Amazing my friend!

  • @tompierce7535
    @tompierce7535 Před 2 lety

    Keep up the good work bro love the vids

  • @hereliesthedwarf
    @hereliesthedwarf Před 2 lety +11

    Jocelyn Thibault was an all-star and finished with 238 wins despite being surrounded by some bland Montreal and Chicago teams. Give the guy some credit.

    • @ninjanunch2769
      @ninjanunch2769 Před rokem

      I remember going to games as a kid during the early 2000s with those Hawks teams

  • @curtisgoulard3106
    @curtisgoulard3106 Před 2 lety +4

    As a habs fan... I find it appalling of the fact that they boo thier own team out of the building.... then they get upset when players don't want to play there anymore.

  • @patrick647
    @patrick647 Před 2 lety

    Just found you're channel and watched a lot of videos. Great content and commentary. Keep it up! Also loved the bit about St.Louis, he was the player that got me into watching hockey. as mentioned his size and skill was unusual at the time and made me gain interest. I had the choice much later when buying a jersey between St.Louis or Stamkos(when Stamkos first started). It was a tough choice, me being young me at the time chose Stamkos. A nice jersey of Stammer without even an A on it. Still would of loved a St.Louis jersey though, the man was a beast in his entire career.

  • @Kwert
    @Kwert Před 2 lety +6

    The thing with the Roy deal is nobody expected Thibault would be a fringe starter. He was a high first round pick and had a lot of hype going in... he just didn't live up to it.

  • @williamwoodsworth441
    @williamwoodsworth441 Před 2 lety

    Definitely the Roy 1995 breakup! Awesome video! Great job having sight and sound go so well together!

  • @Yokes27
    @Yokes27 Před 2 lety +1

    As a flyer fan I fully expected to see Big E in this video. Keep up the vids man, love watching them

  • @Rptvrr
    @Rptvrr Před 2 lety

    lmao! that opening was jokes! Great work man !!

  • @FS84727
    @FS84727 Před 2 lety +3

    Nice video my man!

  • @newman824
    @newman824 Před 2 lety

    He was one my favorite players growing up. The man is a legend for overcoming such odds

  • @roofpizza1250
    @roofpizza1250 Před 2 lety +52

    Islanders won AGAIN last night. lol. Oh Toronto.

    • @gwpb1286
      @gwpb1286 Před 2 lety

      YESSIR LETSSS GOOOOO ISLANDERSSSS

    • @alexps530
      @alexps530 Před 2 lety +3

      This did not age well😂

    • @gwpb1286
      @gwpb1286 Před 2 lety

      @Ferda Boiz 1 game ? Series isn’t over unlike your team which is golfing right now

    • @gwpb1286
      @gwpb1286 Před 2 lety

      @@alexps530 1 game ? Series isn’t over

    • @alexps530
      @alexps530 Před 2 lety

      @@gwpb1286 bro i am a islanders fan i just said i did not age well calm down bud

  • @Rex73777
    @Rex73777 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for providing full context to the Tavares situation. Alot of channels have just painted the Isles fans as a bunch of assholes with out the context of what Tavares did to not only lie to the Isles but to leave them with nothing for their draft pick.

  • @johngraine
    @johngraine Před 2 lety +4

    There's currently an Uber Eats ad in Quebec in which Roy and Tremblay play table hockey. Tremblay makes it 9-1 and says "Maybe you should remove your goalie" and Roy replies "I think he's still good for 2 more cups"

    • @inconnu4961
      @inconnu4961 Před 2 lety

      LMAO Nice they can laugh about it now!

  • @charlieb308
    @charlieb308 Před 2 lety +18

    The biggest problem was the coach in Montreal

  • @534ARO
    @534ARO Před 2 lety +5

    Martin St-Louis story is so inspiring 👍

  • @tonybleau6219
    @tonybleau6219 Před 2 lety +11

    I'm a Canadiens fan and it's just so brutal how the fans are so fair weathered. Letting a two time Stanley Cup winner have it is just insane. I'd do anything for Carey Price to win one for us.
    Letting the GOAT of goalies walk because of horrible fans and a stupid coach is the epitome of this franchise

  • @uuuummmmYea
    @uuuummmmYea Před 2 lety +1

    Isles fans were right to be pissed off and it wasn't just with Tavares as ownership obviously mishandled the situation equally as terrible as Tavares. I remember fans pooled money together to have a "Fire Snow" billboard put up and Tavares using his NTC against the Isles as well as the media statements.... The pyjama photo the day of the signing after allegedly having a mental breakdown deciding between NYI and TOR was a little salt in the wound. for Isles fans.
    That said, definitely a blessing in disguise. Saved a giant cap hit, forced ownership reform and ended up bringing in Barry Trotz. 3 playoffs and 2 Conference Finals since says it all.

  • @timomajere
    @timomajere Před 2 lety +1

    8:15 Little tidbit of interesting info.
    When Roy was a rookie, He and Tremblay were room-mates, and they did NOT get along.

  • @sparrow-we7ip
    @sparrow-we7ip Před 2 lety +2

    “This was when shit hit the fan”
    Caught me off guard😂

  • @krakhead4017
    @krakhead4017 Před 2 lety +5

    God damn Sportsnet littered everyone’s minds so bad that I can’t even escape the Leafs anywhere’s nowadays

  • @importednascar
    @importednascar Před 2 lety +9

    Tavares's return game was.... Yeah, Toronto lost 6-1.

    • @Matthews34
      @Matthews34 Před 2 lety +4

      And the game after that he scored the GWG which clinched a playoff spot for the Leafs and Isles fans were shut up

    • @brandonhulse9304
      @brandonhulse9304 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Matthews34 and then the leafs suffered multiple first round exits while the islanders went on deep runs… lmao

    • @Matthews34
      @Matthews34 Před 2 lety +2

      @@brandonhulse9304 Well, at least none to the Isles and it’s not that I hate the Isles, they’re like any other team to me, it’s just I wanna show Isles fans that he didn’t do anything

  • @MrOctober44
    @MrOctober44 Před 2 lety +8

    The thing that always annoyed me with Tavares is that he acted like he never even considered going to Toronto. Then when he signs with them and says it's a life long dream

  • @SuperWeinermobile
    @SuperWeinermobile Před 2 lety +5

    Tavares is a snake. End of story. Dude spent 2 yrs saying don't trade me i love long Island etc etc. Absolutely classless. And Islanders fans toxic? Clueless statement. That's a tortured franchise more than any nhl team. Lifelong red wings fan on long Island, they're a good strong fanbase that has seen awful times. John Spano anyone?

    • @cowetascore8476
      @cowetascore8476 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't forget Mike Milbury and Fishsticks jerseys. We've been through hell and back again.

  • @Polytrout
    @Polytrout Před 2 lety

    Great video as usual but in regard to
    Martin St- Louis, as great as he was, he didn't set thr precedent for small hockey players. In the 1960s, 5'5" Yvan Cournoyer broke into the NHL with the Montreal Canadiens. The first player to beat Wayne Gretzky for the league scoring title was 5'8" Marcel Dionne. Denis Savard was overlooked by the Montreal Canadiens in favour of Doug Wickenheiser (ht. 6'4"), Denis Savard was 5'8" (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). It is unfortunate however that even today a big man tends to be favoured over the small man. But at the top levels of any sport, minute differences at lower levels become HUGE.

  • @nightmare37.
    @nightmare37. Před 2 lety +5

    After JT left it stung like crazy but after we did good so when that happened I could officially be proud to be an isles fan

  • @zakebrahim3317
    @zakebrahim3317 Před 2 lety +1

    Lol when u were talking about St. Louis being snubbed from team Canada in 2010 I thought u got the year wrong cuz I knew it happened in 2014 but I was so shocked to find out that it happened twice

  • @Rptvrr
    @Rptvrr Před 2 lety

    Lmao love those NHL friends intros!

  • @JonathanLau
    @JonathanLau Před 2 lety +18

    Didn't Tavares also say that his best chance to win a Cup was with the Leafs and not the Isles? (That didn't age well thx to Barry Trotz and Lou Lamoriello !!

    • @pale_saint
      @pale_saint Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah he’s a douchebag and it would serve him right if the Islanders win the Cup

    • @AMan_629
      @AMan_629 Před 2 lety

      You’re right. Trotz has an ability to make teams play above expectations. When he was with the preds he was taking a bad teams to the playoffs consistently. On paper, the caps weren’t the best team in the league when they took the cup either.

    • @crusader0074
      @crusader0074 Před 2 lety

      @@pale_saint
      Lol
      The Leafs are on fire, and the Islanders are trash this year.

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 Před rokem

      @@crusader0074 And the Leafs get knocked out in the first round again. And they lose a brutal game seven...

    • @crusader0074
      @crusader0074 Před rokem

      @@MrOctober44
      Yup…but it’s because we felt bad for Tampa and that they finally deserve a Cup…
      …or I’m delusional.
      😂

  • @jesserasanen1576
    @jesserasanen1576 Před 2 lety

    Great intro bud

  • @frogger1952
    @frogger1952 Před 2 lety +2

    From someone in the know who covers the Islanders regularly, this is what happened. Tavares was approached by Isles management the year before his contract was up and they gave him a great offer. But he didn't sign. At that point, then GM Garth Snow told the Islanders owners that he was going to trade him because it was obvious he wasn't going to sign with us and he didn't want an asset like that to walk out the door with nothing to show. Owners did not want to trade him and they proceeded to have a "heart to heart" with Tavares and his agent. They constructed a handshake deal that Tavares would test the free agent waters to make sure he was getting a fair market price from Isles but that he would sign with them. Tavares asked Islanders NOT to trade him.
    However, between that time and the time his contract expired, he got engaged. His fiancee' and both families put a lot of pressure on him to sign with his hometown team. Plus Toronto convinced him that Islanders would never get a new building as they had been talking about that for years. They would just be the same old Islanders forever. So he went back on his word and signed with Leafs. Supposedly, Lamoriello knew the week prior that Tavares wouldn't sign and they had already moved on. The bottom line is that Tavares was 100% dishonest in his dealings with Islander management.
    Having said that, I did not like the "we don't need you" chants as having Tavares could have been enough extra for us to beat the Lightning. And he was a terrific captain while the Islanders squandered his most productive years under Wang/Snow/Capuano.

    • @crusader0074
      @crusader0074 Před 2 lety

      Still a great Captain…just now for the Leafs.
      Go Leafs go!

  • @leafsfanforever2896
    @leafsfanforever2896 Před 2 lety +6

    Cause of Toronto’s first round exits:
    2019 (Boston): Inability to kill penalties
    2020 (Columbus): Lacklustre offense
    2021 (Montreal): Tavares injury, unnecessary coach’s challenge and Marner delay of game penalty in Game 6

    • @NM-xi8or
      @NM-xi8or Před 2 lety +12

      Excuses. Your team just simply doesn’t have what it takes to win.

    • @roofpizza1250
      @roofpizza1250 Před 2 lety

      You forgot...'LEAFS'.

    • @georgearrivals
      @georgearrivals Před 2 lety +1

      Garbage fans supporting a garbage team in a garbage city

    • @kollelcash
      @kollelcash Před 2 lety +4

      Pretty sure you could have a longer comment going back to 1967

    • @goatMAN1321
      @goatMAN1321 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm a leafs fan just face the facts our team becomes a echl team in playoffs

  • @wet_wombat
    @wet_wombat Před 2 lety

    I was at the first home game in Toronto after JT got booed and the welcome back we had for him was so great, Toronto is happy to have him!

    • @rbrb3625
      @rbrb3625 Před 2 lety

      Meanwhile the seven million dollar man wrecked the chemistry with a four month holdout thus squishing The Leafs chances again.
      The so-called talented youngsters do not have Stanley Cup desire in their hearts.

  • @presidentwilliamhowardtaft5932

    The chants when the maple leafs visited the coliseum after JTs departure were hilarious tho.
    I forget who made the video I believe it was sportsmen but someone did a video on it. Isles one that game by 2+ goals

  • @jjmarz1001
    @jjmarz1001 Před 2 lety +4

    The Islanders have won more playoffs series playing in Toronto than Tavares has playing in Toronto.

  • @boki1693
    @boki1693 Před 2 lety +4

    Costing the Islanders not getting anything in return for him is what annoys me. It was like he was intentionally trying to screw them over.

    • @ajiboy1919
      @ajiboy1919 Před 2 lety +1

      I mean he burned 9 years of his career for nothing I think any guy would be pissed but I don’t think he did it on purpose

    • @jonmendelson1104
      @jonmendelson1104 Před 2 lety +1

      I understand both sides of the "upset about the way he left" argument. If you're leaving to go to a new team because you're upset after giving 9 years to a team that you haven't had any success would you a) tell them you're going to leave, resulting in the team you're going to sacrificing assets in order to get you and thus having a harder time succeeding or b) tell them you're not going to leave so your new team doesn't have to sacrifice assets? If you want to succeed option b makes more sense. That being said, if you want to succeed then perhaps you should look somewhere other than Toronto but that's a different question. Obviously I can understand from Isles fans being upset that you lost a big asset and got nothing in return because he misled you as well.

    • @psychwardsandcymbals
      @psychwardsandcymbals Před rokem

      @@ajiboy1919 are you fucking delusional? he lied for 2 years about his intentions so they wouldn't trade him.

  • @Top-Bird
    @Top-Bird Před 2 lety

    My brother was an intern in the amalie arena and they moment Marty was traded, they had to tear down everything with his face on it, sad.
    Unrelated, I play hockey at that arena of the lighnting training footage. Actually use to work there too. I sometimes got to watch these sessions, was looking for me in the footage

  • @philippemineau2015
    @philippemineau2015 Před 2 lety +15

    Martin St-Louis is such a model of perseverance. He earned all the good in the world.

  • @GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy

    Also, when Phil Kessel was traded from the Leafs to the Penguins on July 1st, 2015. He posted a full page ad in the Toronto Star saying how happy he was to leave. 'No matter what I did on or off the ice, no matter how poorly constructed the roster was during my six years in town, you blamed me.....Thank you Toronto, I will never forget you'. Now whenever he plays in Toronto he gets boooed, including from me lol.

  • @ProdParkerJazz
    @ProdParkerJazz Před 2 lety

    That “goddamn” took me out 🤣

  • @outcasted_
    @outcasted_ Před 2 lety +1

    ooh what if you did most bizarre nhl breakups or something like that? tampa had a rough break with st. louis, but they literally paid lecavalier to leave 😂

  • @FlameSama1
    @FlameSama1 Před 2 lety

    You could do a whole video on the Blackhawks breaking up with their star players because they wanted to be paid what they were owed. Bobby Hull, Stan Makita, Jeremy Roenick, etc...

  • @mrmorhouse
    @mrmorhouse Před rokem

    How do you mention St. Louis in Tampa without Vinny?

  • @Thrashman-ye4cf
    @Thrashman-ye4cf Před 2 lety +4

    I mean I think the Isles got the last laugh on Tavares at this point right? They could never win so he finally left. Now he’s on a joke franchise that can’t win a series to save their lives, and the Isles are almost to a cup.

  • @theangrymechanic9306
    @theangrymechanic9306 Před 2 lety

    13:35
    Yup sounds about right
    "Always trust the Yzerplan"

  • @Michadoo
    @Michadoo Před 2 lety +7

    Definitely Sergei Federov for the Wings

    • @Thrashman-ye4cf
      @Thrashman-ye4cf Před 2 lety +1

      Lol when I was 6 or 7, my mom and I crossed out Feddys name and number on my jersey before we went to a game. The hate for him after he left Detroit was real

  • @LeanMrfuzzles
    @LeanMrfuzzles Před 2 lety

    I'm sure Marty wanting to be up in Connecticut with his family had something to do with wanting out of Tampa, but probably only influenced his choice of team. Think he was just done with Yzerman, which sucks that it kept him from retiring as a Bolt. Marty knew he was at the end of his career and was retired by the end of the following season. Honestly it was sweet justice that TBL knocked the Rangers out in the ECF that year. That was the point where I forgave him honestly. Plus him leaving probably helped build TBL into what they are today.

  • @k-rod258
    @k-rod258 Před 2 lety

    Please do a part 2

  • @kebby91gaming58
    @kebby91gaming58 Před 2 lety

    Hey RTH what do u think about the 18mill thing with Tampa?

  • @wrapacademytraining
    @wrapacademytraining Před 2 lety +6

    That bit on Tavares makes me smile! GOOOOOO ISLANDERS!!

  • @adamkaplan357
    @adamkaplan357 Před 2 lety

    what's misunderstood ab JT is that in 16-17 the isles missed by ONE POINT, they had the tiebreaker with Toronto and if they had gotten one point (like hickey not kicking it in his own net with 30 seconds left) that would of gotten them 3 straight playoff appearances and 4 in 5 years, that totally changes the talk around the team. Also he really wanted to stay, it was only the pitch by Toronto that he didnt even want to be at until his agent convinced him that he was swayed, but who knows if the islanders do what they did these last 2 years without the extra cap space his departure afforded them

  • @dan3307
    @dan3307 Před rokem

    I wonder if St. Louis coaching Montréal and Yzerman as Detroit's GM is going to lead to some rivalry. These are both Original 6 teams. Over the past few years while Detroit has been rebuilding and even before Yzerplan was GM, the Canadiens would run up the score on Detroit (while both franchises were middle of the line at best). Then look to a couple days ago with the Slafkovsky hit on Matt Luff which harkens back to the Lemieux hit on Draper (frankly if I were LaLonde I'd have had my bench go ape**** on Montréal after that hit - but of course Bertuzzi's injured and G. Smith is in GR). St. Louis hasn't even spoken on the matter to my knowledge and while Slaf gets a 2 game suspension, Luff is out for weeks and this is just after recovering from another facial injury - frankly I don't think the suspension was long enough seeing the hit on replay. Anyway stuff like this is what hockey beef is made of!

  • @kellyactormosgoog
    @kellyactormosgoog Před 8 měsíci

    Whenever people say Nela Lopušanová is gonna be too small to play in the NHL, I always look at St. Louis and laugh.

  • @TwistySponge
    @TwistySponge Před 2 lety

    I love how he pronounces french names! “ Mah-teh Saeh-Louis” “Patrick Wah”

  • @ianmudd1383
    @ianmudd1383 Před 2 lety +8

    Tavares deserves the hate

  • @fjeezy1305
    @fjeezy1305 Před 2 lety

    As a lifelong Detroit Lions sympathizer, I completely understand star athletes getting frustrated by playing years for shitty teams. Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson’s careers were more or less wasted. I would have been happy to see either one of them get a chance at a ring.

  • @tococattococat9498
    @tococattococat9498 Před 2 lety

    Do the best team names

  • @JMBproducts
    @JMBproducts Před 2 lety +26

    Imagine if NY Islanders win the cup this years 😂 😳

    • @dessam3939
      @dessam3939 Před 2 lety +7

      @@nikki_szn also after Toronto gained the new record for longest Stanley Cup drought going for 54 years

    • @McSorleyFan33
      @McSorleyFan33 Před 2 lety +4

      I want Montreal or New York to win Especially New York because it would just be awesome if they do it without and before Tavares

    • @michaelkeller5927
      @michaelkeller5927 Před 2 lety +2

      I want Montreal to win so I can hear Bill Burr lose his shit lol

    • @pale_saint
      @pale_saint Před 2 lety +1

      That’d serve Pajama Boy right

    • @pale_saint
      @pale_saint Před 2 lety

      @@michaelkeller5927 Bill Burr loses his shit on daily basis that’s nothing new

  • @pumpkin_eater6916
    @pumpkin_eater6916 Před rokem +1

    The Tavares signing gives me second hand embarrassment as a leafs fan especially since we still haven’t won a round since he joined the roster. I know I would be heartbroken if the superstar of my team left but I’m glad to have him on the team I support. I hope he can find success in Toronto this year

    • @brendanc8344
      @brendanc8344 Před rokem

      I dont hate Johnny. But imagine if Mathews said year after year that he was coming back, only to head to Minnesota in FA the first chance he got. So the Leafs got no return for him.

  • @patton303
    @patton303 Před rokem +1

    I gotta side with Isles fans. As an Av’s fan, I can look at Nate MacKinnon. The Av’s were the worst team in hockey in the mid teens. Nate had the chance to split and decided he was gonna ride it out with his team with draft picks. He finally got the cup after 9 seasons. Tavares should have rode it out.

  • @dan3307
    @dan3307 Před rokem

    I think as a goalie, Roy was as influential to the game as Gretzky and Lemieux. I know that's a HUGE statement (and btw I'm a Wings fan, so this is huge just for me to say it but nevertheless...). If you look at goal tending before and after Roy and the average GAA, shutouts, etc. The game significantly changed from when Roy entered the league. Also if you consider where he was when he started, he came into the league during the prime Gretzky-Lemieux years; he was basically Superman's Kryptonite. Since Roy, the innovation of the butterfly, the size of pads, and the aggressiveness of net minders has significantly changed. As skilled as the league is now with guys like McDavid and Matthews, these guys' numbers would be middle of the line in the 80s/90s (granted the game is significantly different on MANY levels). I believe this has much to do with defensive systems and goaltending that was started by supreme net minders like Roy and Brodeur (both of whom were Red Wing killers in the 90s as some point).

    • @dan3307
      @dan3307 Před rokem

      Also the Canadiens haven't been the same since the Roy trade whereas the Avs have won 3 or 4 Stanley Cups and this is after moving from Québec. As much as I love Cole Caufield and think he might be the next Patrick Kane for US born players - the 2021 finals was a definite fluke. Without the league restructuring due to Covid, I don't think they'd have even made the playoffs let alone the finals. And even then, they got smoked. We'll see what this new gen has in store, they're definitely building but you could say the same for Edmonton or Toronto and they've both been "re"building for a decade without any cups or even finals appearances. Again - the Roy trade broke the NHL's historically best franchise.

  • @felixculpa3520
    @felixculpa3520 Před 2 lety +1

    St. Louis is not a reason that Caufield and Gaudreau exist in the NHL - or if so he may be merely ONE reason. There have been quite a few smaller players, like Ted Lindsay, Henri Richard, Yvan Cournoyer, Theo Fleury, and Brian Gionta - just to name a few - who were extraordinary players.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 2 lety

      Yes of course. But that’s the thing, it is a very small list. Each of them set a precedent in their own way.

  • @walkingcorpse2704
    @walkingcorpse2704 Před 7 měsíci

    Tremble was a former teammate of Roy who would consistently torment him for how he couldn't speak English very well and because of that tension tremble didn't care about roy

  • @icilouis5385
    @icilouis5385 Před 2 lety +1

    Actually, Mario Tremblay didn’t pull Roy out of the game because he wasn’t respectful but because he thought that Roy was too confident. He wanted to break him so that Roy would listen more to his authority.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  Před 2 lety +3

      Working title: Top 5 Worst Things A Rookie Coach Could Do To His Own Superstar and Future Hall of Famer

  • @logan4680
    @logan4680 Před rokem

    See at least we had the decency to give standing ovations to Johnny and Chucky and then proceed to boo them all game

  • @marijumanji
    @marijumanji Před 2 lety +1

    Heatley leaving Ottawa was brutal.

  • @alabamarules9881
    @alabamarules9881 Před rokem

    The absolute worst break up was Bobby Hull when he left the Blackhawks and went to the rival WHA. Not only did he leave the team but the Blackhawks received NOTHING in return and ensured no more Cups till 2010.

  • @ilovecookiesization
    @ilovecookiesization Před 2 lety +4

    St. Louis is the reason why I liked Tampa he deserved way more

  • @cptn-billtremblay3162
    @cptn-billtremblay3162 Před 2 lety

    That final comment about how Cole Caufield exists because of Marty St-Louis has really aged well 😂

  • @95VideoMan
    @95VideoMan Před 2 lety

    What about Kovi? :)

  • @ripapa6355
    @ripapa6355 Před 8 měsíci

    Stevie Y didn't want St Louis on Team Canada bc he didn't want to risk injury.

  • @originalname1035
    @originalname1035 Před rokem

    And now Bruce Boudreau and the Canucks for part 2! As well as Bo Horvat and the Vancouver Canucks. Hm maybe something is off with Vancouver...

  • @Charlesmacadamianut
    @Charlesmacadamianut Před 2 lety

    The Kovalchuk and Parise breakups were brutal for the Devils

  • @noodkiller123
    @noodkiller123 Před 2 lety +1

    Tavares pulled a Russell Wilson. Doesn’t wanna hurt the fan base so continuously lies to them but then leaves anyways like that isn’t worse

    • @psychwardsandcymbals
      @psychwardsandcymbals Před rokem

      it had nothing to do with "hurting the fan base". it had only to do with not wanting to be traded.

  • @thelostviking9998
    @thelostviking9998 Před rokem

    With the team Canada “snub” you have to remember Canada has some of the greatest players to ever play the game. When building a team you can’t just stack it with talent and go. Specially with the skill level of the Russian and American teams being as good as they are. They built a team. Made selections based on having limited time to get them to play as a team. Which is why there were entire lines from nhl teams brought in to play for team Canada. But hey when your biggest problem is not inviting St.Louis to be on the team goes to show how great Canada is at hockey.

  • @thatterenceguy95
    @thatterenceguy95 Před 2 lety

    That's nice Tavares, but we all know what the worst breakup was...I'd flashback to December 2nd 1995, but I was barely a few months old. Still the worst though.

  • @shaqiri5037
    @shaqiri5037 Před 2 lety +1

    Being from Toronto i can honestly say I do not like how the leafs pick players and scout future players. I do not care about names i care about results and numbers, John Tavares currently gets paid 11 million a year with an average of 0.94 points per game 0.81 points per game in playoffs. Some may argue that average doesn't accurately reflect a player due to multiple variables like teammates ice time etc... at the end of the day I believe your salary should accurately reflect your performance. Connor mcdavid gets paid 12.5 million a year with a 1.47 points per game and over a point per game in the playoffs. The difference between Mcdavid and Tavares in terms of pay is only 1.5 million yet mcdavid averages .5 more points per game. On paper the leafs are a better team than edmonton yet Mcdavid can out point every single person on the leafs first line and second line. The leafs invested a total of 40 million on 4 players and have NOTHING to show for it. Islanders are doing better without Tavares and I applaud that, I think him leaving the team was for the better and it opens up a lot of other possibilities for them to work with. Leafs are stuck with 4 players that make up half of the salary cap with 15 other hot dog water players riding the 3rd and 4th line. If you are getting paid over 10 million dollars a year you better be getting over a point per game. disgusting watching the leafs throw games.

  • @kylemerkley2606
    @kylemerkley2606 Před 2 lety +1

    I hate when fans get that mad when I player leaves, it's business, players come and go and got to try and do what's best for them

    • @Thrashman-ye4cf
      @Thrashman-ye4cf Před 2 lety

      I agree, but the reason the Isles fans were so pissed was because Tavares was saying how he didn’t want to leave all year, then he bailed in the summer right away. At the same time, what was the guy supposed to say to the reporters all season? “Yeah I’m definitely out of here after the season ends”
      Players just don’t do that, that’s why I don’t really agree with their anger towards him.

  • @patriciathayer5722
    @patriciathayer5722 Před rokem

    I thought Roy was going to punch out the coach and gm that night. lol 😂

  • @brendanc8344
    @brendanc8344 Před rokem

    As an Isles fan: like you said, it wasn't that Tavares wanted to go back to his home team, I get that, we would all sign a max contract for our home team. It was that he fed us sugar coated shit for years on how he was dedicated to the Island, then walked first chance he got. We could have gotten a king's ransom for him in a trade. But hey, Pajama Boy can enjoy his golf.

  • @UnderwaterAlexJones
    @UnderwaterAlexJones Před 2 lety

    You can make that 4 straight first round exits

  • @kipblass2131
    @kipblass2131 Před 2 lety

    Other Wings fans don't seem as bothered by this as I am - the departure of Brendan Shanahan. It was 2006 and we knew the day was coming, one of these years The Captain would have to retire, and this year it came. We looked over our roster without him on it, still looked pretty good, them kids Datsyuk and Zetterburg might mature into something, still had the best defenseman in the world, but it seemed by the time we looked up from our altered roster, Shanny's like, "Oh Stevie retired? I'm outta here."

  • @tyscam
    @tyscam Před rokem

    With apologies to Fleury of course.