Top 6 WORST First Overall Picks in NHL History!

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  • čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
  • There's a ton of pressure put on the first overall pick in the NHL entry draft. Sometimes these players can live up to the hype, while others simply couldn't keep up. Here are the top 6 WORST first overall picks in NHL History.
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  • @GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy
    @GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy Před rokem +139

    I watched a documentary on NHL draft picks about 15 years ago, and I'll never forget what the narrator said at the beginning; 'Deciding which hockey players in the minors will succeed in the NHL is like trying to guess which high school students will become doctors just by looking at their grades'.

    • @therefep9723
      @therefep9723 Před rokem +2

      Fax I don’t even care about projections anymore. They’re all wrong.

    • @MyName_Jeff
      @MyName_Jeff Před rokem +6

      @@therefep9723 not fax

    • @derekpaddon9553
      @derekpaddon9553 Před rokem +3

      Mostly always overhype Prospects, I remember Luke Schenn was supposed to be the next Chris Pronger if not better.

    • @francois9369
      @francois9369 Před rokem

      More often than not, they are right...
      Can't compare high school vs junior sport mindset.

    • @canuck_gamer3359
      @canuck_gamer3359 Před rokem +3

      @@francois9369 I couldn't disagree more. I think the NHL has a huge problem with the way teams evaluate talent. Once the player is drafted, he has had the scouts cap his potential and he is given opportunities based on where he was drafted and what the scouts said he could do, and there is very little the player can do to change it. Sure, they know when players like Crosby and McDavid are going to be stars but I think they miss badly much of the rest of the time.

  • @brucemckinlay9739
    @brucemckinlay9739 Před rokem +84

    The Oilers also got a 3rd round pick along with throw-in Pochiro for Yakupov. That pick was used to select Stuart Skinner.

    • @dankelly5150
      @dankelly5150 Před rokem +6

      And perhaps he'll be rookie of the year?

    • @jeremyrafuse5330
      @jeremyrafuse5330 Před rokem +5

      ​@@dankelly5150 😂

    • @p.stephens9305
      @p.stephens9305 Před rokem +10

      So they got something good out of it. Skinner has saved Edmonton's bacon this year.

    • @jeremyrafuse5330
      @jeremyrafuse5330 Před rokem +2

      @@p.stephens9305 if only they didn't grossly overpay for their supposed G1 🤣🤣 if Edmonton manages to hold on to their playoff spot, it's gonna be a first round exit

    • @dankelly5150
      @dankelly5150 Před rokem +1

      @@jeremyrafuse5330 👈🤡

  • @alfiesmullet1311
    @alfiesmullet1311 Před rokem +140

    It is said Alex Daigle moved faster to his mailbox to get his paycheck than he ever did on the ice for the Sens

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Před rokem +3

      True. People do say a lot of stupid, judgmental shit. Especially on the internet.

    • @MrDeceptacon88
      @MrDeceptacon88 Před rokem +3

      ​@puckerings no your wrong and daigle did run to his mailbox

    • @adrianleadley4059
      @adrianleadley4059 Před rokem +1

      I lived in Ottawa during his first season. He was a major letdown but it wasn’t about collecting a cheque. His heart was there but could not continue to improve. He just couldn’t play in the NHL

    • @tokertalk9648
      @tokertalk9648 Před 8 měsíci

      LOL why do weak minded people like you get so easily tilted over simple truth they read on the internet?

    • @christopherredmond8416
      @christopherredmond8416 Před 8 měsíci

      He was a boy who was rushed too a man's league , not saying he would have been great, bet being 18 and nobody on his team too teach him hurt his development

  • @hankscorpio7767
    @hankscorpio7767 Před rokem +94

    DiPietro was good when he played. Unfortunately he didn't play a lot because of injuries.

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 Před rokem +11

      But by getting rid of Luongo, and then signing DiPietro to that heavy contract the Islanders looked even worse.

    • @hankscorpio7767
      @hankscorpio7767 Před rokem

      @@stevencooke6451 That has nothing to do with DiPieto himself. Dumb management decisions, are just that, dumb management decisions.

    • @Mike-pn8ln
      @Mike-pn8ln Před rokem +3

      I don't think dipietro ever went above .900 save percentage

    • @hankscorpio7767
      @hankscorpio7767 Před rokem +13

      @@Mike-pn8ln Injuries played a huge part in that. I remember DiPietro's whole career and he always had flashes of greatness, just terrible luck.

    • @GeneratedAi
      @GeneratedAi Před rokem +6

      @@Mike-pn8ln his average save% is .902 his best season was a .919 his worst season was a .855 tho

  • @davismavis2834
    @davismavis2834 Před rokem +34

    I watched Yakapov play in the OHL and he was heads and tails over the other guys on the ice, when he wanted to be. One time his team was down by 2 with 2 minutes left and he decided to try and got 2 to tie it and then they won in overtime. The problem was he wasn't motivated to get better by playing against the best. He got too used to being so much better that he didn't have to put in a full effort but for the last 2 minutes of the game, if the team needed him to do it.

    • @noahmartin9526
      @noahmartin9526 Před rokem

      It didn’t help that he had a new head coach in each of his seasons with the Oilers

    • @jackgunn1480
      @jackgunn1480 Před rokem +1

      Interesting. Hearing this it doesn't surprise me that he tanked To be successful in the NHL you actually have to put in the effort.

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Před rokem +1

      @@jackgunn1480 So some guy on the internet saying it on the internet is enough for you to make a judgment about a player like that? Dude didn't even spell his name correctly, and said "heads and tails" instead of "head and shoulders."
      This guy has zero idea about whether Yakupov was motivated or not, and neither do you.

    • @jackgunn1480
      @jackgunn1480 Před rokem

      @@puckerings Sure, but it makes sense, so I tend to believe it. Whether Yak was actually not motivated or putting in the effort, only he knows that for sure, but that's how I see it based on the limited information I have.

    • @esperago
      @esperago Před 11 měsíci

      Yes, the one thing that Yakupov absolutely needed was an organization that excelled in player development. The Edmonton Oilers haven't been that organization since the early 90s, even then, they were average. When Yakupov was drafted, the Oil were already labeled as the team that rushed draft picks into full scale NHL play because they were so desperate for the help. It ruined, stunted and delayed a handful of young men's careers. Yakupov needed extra time in the farm system and then he needed a mentor within the Oilers organization. He got neither and to make matters worse, he was actively told by the organization to check his personality at the door. I can't remember the season but there was a normal regular season game and the Oilers were skidding very badly. Yak scored one of those buzzer beaters and won the game. He celebrated like crazy - like he'd won the Stanley Cup. The next day the MSM across Canada began trashing him for his energetic display. "Who does he think he is?" "That's not how we play hockey HERE". The Oilers quietly sided with these sentiments rather than embracing his personality and using him as a ticket draw. I believe this was Yakupov's nail in the coffin. He never recovered after that. So while Yakupov needed a fair bit of development, I blame the Oilers for mangling his potential.

  • @MS-ro9dm
    @MS-ro9dm Před rokem +21

    "I don't really like playing without the puck, skate all the time and do forecheck and hit somebody every shift,” Yakupov said to reporters after an early-season loss. “I don't think it's my game."

    • @MrPunkforlife
      @MrPunkforlife Před rokem +6

      Brian Burke said that while interviewing Nail Yakupov, he nearly punched him, the kid was so arrogant.

    • @Jukeboksi
      @Jukeboksi Před rokem +6

      Most russkis

    • @faunbudweis
      @faunbudweis Před rokem +2

      @@Jukeboksi Filly don't do rebounds. :)))

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Před rokem +2

      @@MrPunkforlife Brian Burke calling someone else arrogant is hilarious.

    • @MrPunkforlife
      @MrPunkforlife Před rokem

      @@puckerings 😃😄😆

  • @joelbrittain6379
    @joelbrittain6379 Před rokem +4

    I remember hearing Ray Ferraro talking about Yakupov -- he said he played "like he was being chased by bees". Cracks me up every time I think about it.

  • @chengliu872
    @chengliu872 Před rokem +17

    I feel like Alexis Lafreniere might make this list in the future, especially considering how good Tim Stüzle has been.

    • @KPowers-ri5rp
      @KPowers-ri5rp Před rokem

      Detroit not getting first overall might of been a blessing cause Lucus Raymond looks better so far.

    • @afzalhakeen4941
      @afzalhakeen4941 Před 11 měsíci

      Alexis Lafreniere i had high hopes for that guy since mcdavid

    • @chengliu872
      @chengliu872 Před 11 měsíci

      @@afzalhakeen4941: So did virtually everyone.

    • @leafsfanforever2896
      @leafsfanforever2896 Před 8 měsíci +1

      To be fair for Lafreniere, the Rangers depth chart has not been kind to him; Panarin & Kreider ahead of you will do no favours

    • @RGP43_
      @RGP43_ Před 4 měsíci

      already proving you wrong the first time hes getting decent top 6 minutes

  • @dissimulii
    @dissimulii Před rokem +5

    yeah yeah, Daigle was a 'bust' but the guy does deserve some credit, he did end his career on a somewhat positive note. he managed to play 12 seasons in the NHL. around 2000 he quit professional hockey for like 2 years then got back into the NHL on a tryout from Pittsburgh. in his second last NHL season he led the Wild in points, matching his career high season points total from nearly a decade earlier.

  • @JBM425
    @JBM425 Před rokem +4

    Yakupov hasn’t exactly set the world on fire in the KHL, either. He scored 23 goals in 47 games with SKA St. Petersburg, slipped to 10 goals in 46 games, and has failed to reach double figures since. He’s now on his third KHL club with Omsk Avangard.

  • @wm9312
    @wm9312 Před rokem +9

    When the WJHC was in Red Deer/Calgary, I made it to a game and Daigle went ripping up the wing around the defence to score.
    It was a fantastic display of his talent. Unfortunately, what goes on between a players ears isn't as visible.

  • @smith041958
    @smith041958 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I think the worst first overall pick, maybe not the biggest bust, was Rick Pagnutti, drafted first overall by the LA Kings in1967 and never played an NHL game.

  • @TheOfficerMahoney
    @TheOfficerMahoney Před rokem +5

    To be fair. Daigle was pretty good when playing at Wild, of course nowhere near 1st pick level, but solid NHL player

  • @yeltsin6817
    @yeltsin6817 Před rokem +15

    I feel bad for the caps guy. No way he could have succeeded with that pressure and being on that team

    • @jimmysimard3008
      @jimmysimard3008 Před rokem

      Kind of hard to perform well when you play with a team who had 19W-126L-15T the two years you played with them... As a Quebec fan back in the day I remember that Owen Nolan and Brian Fogarty weren't good at all in their first season (TBH Fogarty never was but we all sadly know why).

    • @RequiredFields
      @RequiredFields Před rokem +1

      @@jimmysimard3008 Fogarty's story is really sad all around. If he only got his act together, he'd have had a really solid career.
      Sadly, the drug problems, combined with him being hard to work with, led to him being bounced around a lot, and he never saw his full potential.

    • @mike196212
      @mike196212 Před rokem +1

      I remember him and that woeful team. You're right. That deck was stacked,primed to fall on top of him.

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 Před rokem +1

      Arguably one of the worst teams in NHL history.

    • @mike196212
      @mike196212 Před rokem

      @@11DNA11 Yes. You could say the California Seals, but they were actually getting a bit better,I think,when they called it a day.

  • @niskunixon3431
    @niskunixon3431 Před rokem +18

    should have shown the Hemsky Goal on the Stefan misshap!

  • @freehahahafree
    @freehahahafree Před rokem

    I was really surprised when yo started with Greg Joly. Not because I disagree with your assessment but because I was born and raised in Glens Falls, NY. My hometown was the home of the Adirondack Red Wings, the Detroit AHL affiliate, for twenty years (1979-1999). Joly was a household name in Glens Falls for years and I witnessed almost his entire career. It wasn’t until he had retired that I learned of how he failed to live up to his potential, from my perspective he was a star.I appreciate you pointing out the Bobby Orr comparison, I hadn’t heard that before. Thanks for the content…good work.

  • @phillipstankey8881
    @phillipstankey8881 Před rokem +6

    Joly was pretty decent for Detroit in his first year there. After that...I think he got hurt and was never a full time NHL defenseman after that

  • @NorthernRambler
    @NorthernRambler Před rokem +7

    How was Doug Wickenheiser omitted from this list?

  • @brianfantana8510
    @brianfantana8510 Před rokem +15

    Greg Joly blew his knee and wrist out early in his career. The Caps completely mismanaged him. Hate how the media says he was a bad pick...Joly was extremely unlucky to get picked by an organization that didn't know what they were doing.

    • @TheRedneckPreppy
      @TheRedneckPreppy Před rokem +1

      People who weren't watching hockey back in the early 80s have no idea how bad the Capitals were mismanaged. Honestly, it was a race between them and the Leafs as to who could screw things up the most. I'd say the Leafs (well, Harold Ballard almost singlehandedly) edged them out, but barely.

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Před rokem

      Yep. People love to judge players based on superficial views of their play.

  • @kevinpagano7245
    @kevinpagano7245 Před rokem +8

    It’s a little unfair the criticism DiPietro gets since he was hurt most of the time.

    • @RequiredFields
      @RequiredFields Před rokem +1

      True. He was good, maybe not #1 draft pick good, but definitely a good goaltender on a team that wasn't that great. I'm sure we'd speak of him better in retrospect if he had a longer career and the injuries never happened.

    • @vangroover1903
      @vangroover1903 Před rokem +2

      It's that contract. A surprising number of grubs blame him for taking the money, not the idiot Islanders for offering it.

  • @empire0
    @empire0 Před rokem +32

    I always thought Daigle was the biggest bust. He was so hyped and expected to be a star, plus the Sens took him instead of Pronger

    • @f-twelve7155
      @f-twelve7155 Před rokem

      Like top 6 hockey said, he was alright but not first overall material, he'd had a spot on pretty much any roster imo

    • @jimmysimard3008
      @jimmysimard3008 Před rokem +3

      The problem with Daigle is that he didn't care anymore after he sign his big contract with Ottawa after the draft...

    • @empire0
      @empire0 Před rokem +3

      @@f-twelve7155 Yeah but at the time he was a slam dunk. Guys like Stefan and Yakupov were questionable in their draft year. DiPietro was a reach, but he had potential if he wasn't always injured

    • @jimmysimard3008
      @jimmysimard3008 Před rokem +2

      @@empire0 Exactly... Long Island didn't gave him a 15 years contract for nothing, he was a solid goalie before 2008/2009 when he started being injured constantly.

    • @brucemckinlay9739
      @brucemckinlay9739 Před rokem +3

      He may be the biggest bust ever relative to expectations but Daigle still had a decent NHL career.

  • @father042
    @father042 Před rokem +5

    Number 1 should be Claude Gauthier, André Veilleux and Rick Pagnutti who haven't played a single NHL game
    Gord Kluzak was also a pretty big bust but suffered from injuries

    • @tomtalley2192
      @tomtalley2192 Před rokem +5

      Kluzak was a very good player, injuries was what derailed his career.

    • @trlprk
      @trlprk Před rokem +1

      Kluzak had his knee blown out during a meaningless exhibition game. He was hit by Dave Lewis. He was never the same

  • @bonehead797
    @bonehead797 Před rokem +2

    I don't think Lawton deserves to be on this list. It's clear that organization messed up his career, as you mentioned he should of been in the minors developing, not jumping from high school straight to the NHL. That's not on him, that's on The North Stars. I can't even fathom how much bigger and faster the NHL players must of been for him, going from high school kids to grown professionals like that. Criminal if you ask me.

  • @Jeneric81
    @Jeneric81 Před rokem +2

    I mean, DiPietro wasn't really bad. Just an unfortunate turn of events that is impossible to predict ahead of time. That NYI had horrible judgment on long term contracts is not a draft pick-related issue.

  • @trevorwilson5496
    @trevorwilson5496 Před rokem +34

    You forgot Doug Wickenheiser

    • @cashadm
      @cashadm Před rokem +3

      I agree. Wickenheiser was what we call here in Qc "un bœuf de l’Ouest", literally a Western beef. Big, tall and with shoulders that could knock out anyone near him. But things did not work out as expected. Adding the fact that the next pick right after Wickenheiser was a Québécois darling named Denis Savard, who played for Mtl but 13 years later. Savard had spectacular skills. So Wick had to live up with that and a few demons as well. The poor man died at a young age, probably because, in part, he never met the expectations that were placed on him. Sad end.

    • @trevorwilson5496
      @trevorwilson5496 Před rokem +1

      @@cashadm yep... Savard instead of Wickenheiser would've been such a brilliant move. I remember wickenheiser crashing at full speed into the opposition's net, breaking several ribs on the left post. It almost ended his career. That's when the NHL started using magnets instead of posts secured by the ice

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před rokem +2

      @@cashadm the funniest thing about that was it was the Canadiens who drafted him which was strange since Savard was considered the better player not to mention being a native Québécois. Sadly Doug passed away in 1999 from cancer.

    • @peterfishwick1593
      @peterfishwick1593 Před rokem

      B.s.

    • @JustpissTrudeau69
      @JustpissTrudeau69 Před rokem

      @@cashadm We call Danielle Bouchard in Alberta a Frog with know heart .

  • @shadowboxsports5662
    @shadowboxsports5662 Před rokem +4

    DiPietro has been outta the league like 10 years and is still stopping guys like Zegras in shootouts. His issues were all health and not his skill level

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 Před rokem

      Seemed more than just health. He lost his edge after he signed that 15y contract.
      Luckily i'm a Rangers fan so it was hilarious to see the Islanders trade away their whole future, while keeping guys like DiPietro :D

    • @BlackSunshine07GT500
      @BlackSunshine07GT500 Před 10 dny

      @@11DNA11 Man, did Mike Milbury ever trash that team with all the players he traded away?!

  • @elGeant24
    @elGeant24 Před rokem

    Daigle was still in the top 2 scoring leaders among the Sens with Yashin each year, before they got a decent team during the 1995-96 season, no matter how terrible they were before moving at the Palladium (CTC) in Kanata.

  • @davkatjenn
    @davkatjenn Před rokem +14

    I was surprised that Yakupov scored at all during his tenures with those numerous teams. He was that bad. This is why I love watching a career like Joe Pavelski's.....drafted in the 7th round and nearing 1000 points. It is wonderful watching guys like him work their tails off and succeed. You can't measure heart, grit and determination with a stop watch and sometimes I think it might be better to trade away your first round pick for several picks in the lower rounds.

    • @HockeyTownHooligan5
      @HockeyTownHooligan5 Před rokem +1

      Henrik Zetterberg, Johan Franzen, Pavel Datsyuk all late rounders. All awesome players

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Před rokem +1

      " You can't measure heart, grit and determination"
      This part is true. And yet, we have comments full of people who claim to have measured Yakupov's heart, grit and determination, because they watched him a bit on TV.

  • @HonkyTonkHellraiser
    @HonkyTonkHellraiser Před rokem +6

    I can't call Daigle a bust, I mean the guy played OVER 600 games

  • @metroidjones122
    @metroidjones122 Před rokem +3

    It’s a lot of pressure to be a #1 pick. A guy could end being a great player but if he’s not a top ten player in the league he will get criticized for his whole career.
    But I get it. The examples in this video really hurt their respective franchises.

    • @jakem.4707
      @jakem.4707 Před rokem +1

      Yup. If any of these players were drafted in late rounds.- they d be considered a steal.

  • @sandiz83
    @sandiz83 Před rokem +4

    Late bloomers are something we know about. but this list leads me to believe there is such a thing as early bloomers. and we mistake them for super talent.

    • @charlieniner1552
      @charlieniner1552 Před rokem +1

      Its all about development. Some have fully developed by 18 and won't develop into an every day NHL player. Some won't develop until much later.

  • @tunnsie
    @tunnsie Před 4 měsíci

    During Yakapov’s first year with Edmonton, the immaturity was painful to watch. Imagine how much more painful it was for his teammates. In junior that’s likely to be more tolerated, depending on the team. Not when you’re playing with men. He could never adjust or mature .

  • @kokanee2010a
    @kokanee2010a Před rokem +2

    I was at every game of the 1974 memorial cup where dennis sobchuk lead the pats to the hardest trophy to win in organized hockey . his team mates were clark gilles , greg joly and ed staniowski , it is pretty unfair that you ragged on a rookie defensemen on a first year team that earned the lowest point total of the nhl in that era . he should have started in the minors but i dont think the capitals even had a farm team , i was also at the 2000 amateur draft as di pietro went ahead of hometown boy dany heatley even though dany was born in germany his father murray moved the family back to Calgary after his military stint was over . i was the guy that tortured milbury about his bonehead trades as he moved the #3 , #4 and #5 overall picks of the 97 draft class , he moved ollie jokinen , luongo and brewer at the 2000 draft . mike milbury has pretty much traded away an all star team away from nyi

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Před rokem

      The Memorial Cup is not the "hardest trophy to win in organized hockey." I can only assume you're referring to the fact that currently 60 teams are in competition to win the Cup, as opposed to 32 in the NHL. But by this standard, the Centennial Cup is much harder to win than the Memorial Cup, since there are 118 teams in the CJHL compared to 60 in the CHL.

  • @tedtimothy9074
    @tedtimothy9074 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I remember Bobby Orr. He was amazing

  • @jameshorton7496
    @jameshorton7496 Před rokem +4

    I once read about Daigle, that he never really wanted to play hockey. It was his dad's dream for him to play in the NHL, so that's what he did. True? I don't know, but I read that years ago. Another big bust was Sylvain Turgeon. He was drafted by the Hartford Whalers and never came close to achieving high status.

  • @nyfan9215
    @nyfan9215 Před rokem +5

    Alexei Lafrienere is headed in that direction

    • @noahmartin9526
      @noahmartin9526 Před rokem +1

      No the rangers are just wasting him… there’s a difference… Kakko on the other hand, well

  • @wallyjude3
    @wallyjude3 Před rokem +1

    Anybody who saw Joly play in junior knew the comparisons to Orr were justified. Joly was an unbelievable skater. Perhaps better than Orr. If he had not severed his achilles tendon in the Capitals training camp in his rookie year, his career would have been vastly different. Joly most certainly does not deserve to be promoted as a draft bust, he was strictly a victim of injury.

  • @colts0627
    @colts0627 Před rokem

    Anybody know what repercussions Brian Burke laid in place over that Thrashers trade ? All it says is their assurance that they wouldn't take a Sedin . I mean free country they could have just would've had to fork something over themselves in return so what would've happened as punishment had they defied Burke's deal ?

    • @BlackIjs
      @BlackIjs Před 11 měsíci +1

      There's a good CZcams 'documentary' on this. I think it was something about if a Sedin was taken 1st he would have boycotted the team, refusing to play for them (like Lindros).

  • @davidmather16
    @davidmather16 Před rokem

    To be fair at that time in 93 he was supposed to be the 1st face of the Sens ..now the money didn't help but as well him getting concussion did help

  • @mike196212
    @mike196212 Před rokem

    Interesting list. The only one I've never heard of is the last fella. I remember Joly(I was 12 and entering junior high) on the cover of The Hockey News. No,he didn't amount to much;however,being called the next Orr was something NO ONE could live up to. This is still true: I still consider Orr to be the greatest player the league has ever seen,just ahead of Gretzky. Daigle was a spectacular bust. Didn't realize or recall that Lawton played as long as he did. I'm surprised unfortunate Doug Wickenheiser wasn't mentioned,the player Montreal picked instead of Denis Savard. Then again,I'm not sure he was a number one pick. He was up there though. There are lots of other first round busts depending on one's criteria for what makes a flop of a pick. I'm a Leaf fan(I'm 61) and only discovered over the last ten years or so that Orr,Park and Dryden could have been Leafs. Incredible blunders,even the ones that weren't first picks. I always despised Bobby Clark but,in retrospect,he definitely could have helped Toronto if they had selected him when they had the chance(at least three other teams ignored him before the Leafs did). They selected the obscure Ernie Moser instead,who never played a game in the NHL. Go figure. Fascinating stuff.

    • @jaerockchalk3216
      @jaerockchalk3216 Před rokem +1

      id take ovechkin over gretzky , more heart , more hustle , complete package vs just scoring

    • @cex2407
      @cex2407 Před rokem

      ​@Jaerock Chalk I love ovi but he isn't a complete package bud. His stats show that. Grez is a complete offensive package. Either guy pays well in the defensive end.

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Před rokem

      @@jaerockchalk3216 Let me guess: you're not old enough to have actually seen Gretzky play in his prime, right? Gretzky was a complete player. His ability to control the puck and the flow of the game was extremely useful on defence. And "more heart" is always a tell that someone is desperate to find something.

    • @RebelWithoutAPause777
      @RebelWithoutAPause777 Před 10 měsíci

      "If I never learned to to put down a two-hander, I'd have never made it out of Flin Flon"
      - Bobby Clarke

  • @scottjackson1420
    @scottjackson1420 Před rokem +4

    Heck, I liked Greg Joly. And that plus-minus can hardly be laid on him. The expansion Caps were just about the worst team to lace up skates. Yes, Orr himself would have had a crappy +/- on that team. And when he got to my Red Wings, well, Detroit wasn't much better.
    Put Joly on the second defensive pairing on a good team, and he'd have been fine.
    First overall quality? Obviously not. But he was better than you say.

    • @Demy1970
      @Demy1970 Před rokem

      Agree, that team was horrible

  • @thuaug4417
    @thuaug4417 Před rokem +4

    Okay, so Milt Schmidt got it wrong, and Joli wasn’t the next Bobby Orr. But if you’re going to stick it to Schmidt like he’s some sort of ignoramus, at least inform your viewers it was Schmidt who scouted and discovered the real No. 4 in the first place.

    • @Diogenes-ty9yy
      @Diogenes-ty9yy Před rokem +2

      At least Schmidt had the foresight to make the most 1 sided trade in NHL history in 1967 when he snookered the Blackhawks out of Fred Stanfield, Ken Hodge and the great Phil Esposito for Jack Norris, Gilles Marotte, and Pit Martin. All 3 ex-Hawks went on to great careers - especially Esposito - while Norris, Marotte and Martin helped the Blackhawks to mediocrity. ☹

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 Před rokem

      Did Bobby Orr really NEED to be "discovered" though?..Its not like the Oshawa generals were not regularly scouted.

    • @thuaug4417
      @thuaug4417 Před rokem +1

      @@projektkobra2247 For the Bruins sake, yes. He was signed by a handshake when he was 12 years old in a deal to put a new roof on his father’s house. How to tell me you don’t know hockey history without telling me you don’t know hockey history. Every other team would have wanted him, but Schmidt DISCOVERED and SIGNED him at 12.

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 Před rokem

      @@thuaug4417 -How to tell me youre a smug prick without telling me youre a smug prick.

    • @thuaug4417
      @thuaug4417 Před rokem +1

      @@projektkobra2247 Schmidt had already signed Orr to the Bruins before he’d even put his blade on the Oshawa ice.

  • @brianmouland209
    @brianmouland209 Před rokem +7

    Greg Joly had too much pressure put on him.sadly couldn’t handle it

    • @MrPunkforlife
      @MrPunkforlife Před rokem

      Caps should've sent him to the minors for 2 years. 8^\

  • @lakeeriesailor2852
    @lakeeriesailor2852 Před měsícem

    Lawton was regarded so badly by 1990, when was with the whalers organization, one of the coaching staff said the only way he makes our lineup is a plane crash!

  • @don63
    @don63 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bobby Orr was simply awesome.

  • @MuhammadZegras
    @MuhammadZegras Před rokem +1

    Wonder who will be the next addition to this list

  • @ryancox6268
    @ryancox6268 Před rokem +1

    I’ve got it on good authority that the scouts didn’t wanna draft Yakopov. The oilers had a great opportunity to draft a big star defenceman, but their owner Katz kept saying “no, we’re taking the Russian”. Should’ve listened to his scouts.

    • @MrCarlSellars
      @MrCarlSellars Před rokem +1

      Same in Philly where Bobby Clarke just blasted the GM for picking Nolan Patrick 2nd overall and a big bust, instead of their scouts choice : Cale Makar.

    • @swen1208
      @swen1208 Před 6 měsíci +1

      or Ken Holland being a joke by drafting Zadina over Quinn Hughes

  • @user-cf1se1kk5x
    @user-cf1se1kk5x Před rokem

    all the love and all the love from the team for the support and all of the great work that I will miss them so many people I

  • @leafsfanforever2896
    @leafsfanforever2896 Před 8 měsíci

    Doug Wickenheiser: struggled with skill
    Brian Lawton: ditto
    Alexandre Daigle: unmotivated
    Bryan Berard: eye injury (though not exactly a bust)
    Chris Phillips: focused on defense (decent)
    Patrik Stefan: numerous injuries
    Rick DiPietro: knee & hip issues
    Nail Yakupov: character issues

  • @danelvis9979
    @danelvis9979 Před rokem +3

    Just shows you can't always judge a player from their Junior careers. Based on his final Junior season, Greg Joly was a deserving number one pick. It just didnt work out on the pro level. It happens.

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings Před rokem

      That's what can happen when you look at a player's stats in isolation without understanding their context. Joly's 1973/74 junior season was not especially impressive. The finished fourth in the league in scoring by defencemen:
      1. Ron Greschner 33-70-103 in 67 games (18 yrs old)
      2. Ray Maluta 40-57-97 in 68 games (19 yrs old)
      3. Pat Price 27-68-95 in 67 games (18 yrs old)
      4. Greg Joly 21-71-92 in 67 games (19 yrs old)
      Greschner and Price had much better NHL careers than Joly, which is predictable because they were younger than Joly putting up similar numbers. A player's age is ENORMOUSLY important to consider when evaluating their junior numbers. You also have to consider that the WCHL was not of equal calibre to the OHA, and had a higher scoring environment.
      So by the number, he should certainly have been expected to be drafted in the early rounds, but there's nothing there that says #1 overall pick.

    • @danelvis9979
      @danelvis9979 Před rokem

      @puckerings That said, he wasn't an egregious pick...at least by those standards. Ray Maluta played a total of 25 NHL games, Pat Price had a decent career but was a defensive defenseman who could score a goal once in awhile. Only Ron Greshner of the group was an effective offensive defenseman. Says a lot too that he played his entire career with one team.

  • @gascheck8151
    @gascheck8151 Před rokem

    Daigle was heard to say “I never have to work again”. That says it all.

  • @butthetruth
    @butthetruth Před rokem +1

    Pat Price - One of the greatest disappointments in hockey history. Too much partying. I played a game of pool with him once at Mike's Place Pub in Nelson BC, where I think he still works as a used car salesman. Asked him where his hockey money went, he said it went up his nose and smiled.

  • @geoffstonehouse6304
    @geoffstonehouse6304 Před 7 měsíci

    These weren't necessarily bad picks, except for the Oilers making consecutive bad picks, they just didn't pan out.

  • @chengliu872
    @chengliu872 Před rokem +1

    With Rick DiPietro I feel like it wasn't talent so much as injury issues that hampered him.

  • @peterlee4682
    @peterlee4682 Před měsícem

    Actually, I think the Washington Capitals wanted Pat Price rather than Greg Joly but when Pat Price signed with the Vancouver Blazers of the WHA, they had to switch to Greg Joly. All the hype out of Washington was for Pat Price not Greg Joly IMHO.

  • @jamescook9661
    @jamescook9661 Před rokem +1

    I Remember a second pick named Denis Savard that turned out to be a pretty darn good player

    • @auckland18
      @auckland18 Před rokem +1

      Savard was third, actually. Behind No. 1 Doug Wickenheiser (another bust) and Dave Babych - chosen by Winnipeg. But yeah, when the Canadiens chose Wickenheiser over Savard, I couldn't believe it.

    • @jamescook9661
      @jamescook9661 Před rokem +1

      @@auckland18 Thanks for the correction

  • @mattfroehlke2709
    @mattfroehlke2709 Před rokem

    I hope bedsy can live up to his hype. Saying hes the next crosby is a lot to live up to.. I see him being more like a patrick kane. Which is still a great comp

  • @troyprice7407
    @troyprice7407 Před rokem

    I know Zach Pochiro, great guy!

  • @aNiDiOtOnVr01
    @aNiDiOtOnVr01 Před rokem +3

    Can you do a 6 NHL teams that are most likely to fold

    • @zackpearson4198
      @zackpearson4198 Před rokem +6

      No team is going to fold lol

    • @jimmysimard3008
      @jimmysimard3008 Před rokem +1

      That haven't happened since the Brooklyn Americans in 1942 and that only happened five times before Brooklyn... teams are sold and move.

    • @tomtalley2192
      @tomtalley2192 Před rokem +1

      California Golden Seals folded. Team merged with Minnesota, but basically folded.

    • @jimmysimard3008
      @jimmysimard3008 Před rokem

      @@tomtalley2192 They moved to Cleveland before, but the merging of the Barons and the North Stars is not far from a team folding.

    • @jeremyrafuse5330
      @jeremyrafuse5330 Před rokem +1

      If they haven't absolved Arizona by now, they never will. An absolute embarrassment of a professional team.

  • @DeadPandaSociety
    @DeadPandaSociety Před rokem +1

    I am shocked joe Murphy didn’t get a honorable mention in this list one of the most interesting careers of all time. Also such a sad story knowing he’s homeless now. The book finding Murphy really shocked me.

    • @chaosgreyblood
      @chaosgreyblood Před rokem

      Wait, wait? What happened to him?

    • @markmearth1
      @markmearth1 Před rokem

      @@chaosgreyblood I think he received a terrible hit in a game, had a brain injury, but there were not concussion protocols at that time. They kept him playing and I think he got hit hard again. After that, his life and play deteriorated with him resorting to a drug addiction, creating a downward spiral, and homelessness. I believe he wanders homeless in a small town in western Ontario. Fortunately, several people are trying to take care pf him, and are trying to care for him. Forgive me if I am recounting wrongly. It has been a few years since I read/heard the story. ❤

    • @markmearth1
      @markmearth1 Před rokem

      @@chaosgreyblood documentary (on CZcams) "W5 Fallen Star"

    • @markmearth1
      @markmearth1 Před rokem +2

      I did not read the book but I saw the documentary "W5 Fallen Star". Yes, a really sad story. Thank God there are concussion protocols now.

    • @wizzerwiser2056
      @wizzerwiser2056 Před rokem

      @@chaosgreyblood He's homeless now.

  • @antonchigurh7227
    @antonchigurh7227 Před rokem +2

    DiPietro 's nickname around the league was 'Rickety'

  • @tomvu1470
    @tomvu1470 Před rokem

    Stefan being the 1st overall pick is a bit misleading. Yes, he was selected first but he wasn't the consensus "best" prospect available *at that spot*. He was only selected first because Atlanta made an agreement not to select either Sedin (which they, Atlanta normally would have) & received some kind of compensation (I forget exactly what they got, something like a pick or two I think). Rather than just trading the 1st overall pick to Vancouver to make it simpler, Atlanta being a new franchise, wanted the "PR" of marketing the "first overall pick" to sell tickets.

  • @sanjin9665
    @sanjin9665 Před rokem

    The 1999 was one of the deepest drafts

  • @stevejohnson1577
    @stevejohnson1577 Před rokem

    in fairness to Greg Joly, and the emphasis on his plus minus, he played on the worst 2 teams of the 1970s, short of Colorado. He stats could have been alot worse

  • @stickcheck3045
    @stickcheck3045 Před rokem

    I heard from friends that the night before the Regina Pats won the memorial cup, Dennis Sobchuk and Robbie Laird tied Gregg Jolie to his bed to keep him sober. Jolie apparently had developed a serious drinking problem and that is what likely destroyed his career. Otherwise, he would have been in fact, the next Bobby Orr.

  • @davideaston6944
    @davideaston6944 Před rokem +1

    Lawton? He did pretty well, considering the youth and pressure - I would put Doug Wickenheiser on this list before Lawton. Cheers!

  • @blowstuffup1
    @blowstuffup1 Před 28 dny

    The 2 best players in nhl history to start playing after the draft was Gretzky and Orr, goes to show the draft doesn't mean much because neither were drafted.

  • @user-cf1se1kk5x
    @user-cf1se1kk5x Před rokem

    I’m so happy 😁 I’m going for the best of the year to see what the new update will bring for me

  • @vestaxwax
    @vestaxwax Před rokem +3

    He wasn't first overall, but...Scott Scissons.

  • @thaddcorbett2148
    @thaddcorbett2148 Před 7 měsíci

    DiPietro wasn't that bad. Not his fault his team signed him to that crazy contract.

  • @user-cf1se1kk5x
    @user-cf1se1kk5x Před rokem

    this season so far and for me I am very grateful to everyone for the opportunity and all of my fans who are looking forward to seeing

  • @rickseiden1
    @rickseiden1 Před 10 měsíci

    Not one of the worst, but one of the current underperforming 1st overalls. (I'm a lifelong NY Ranger's fan.) Alexis Lafrenière. He's good, and I don't want to see him leave, but he's not first overall good. Kappo Kakko at second overall is another one not living up to his pick position. (Then, of course, you have people like Henrik Lundqvist who get picked as an afterthought in the 7th round who go on to be the greatest Swedish goalie in NHL history, one of the best overall, the best the Rangers have ever had, and so much more. But this isn't about him....)

  • @joeshittheragman6252
    @joeshittheragman6252 Před rokem

    I remember saying the Oilers should have drafted a defenseman after drafting so many forwards the year they drafted Yakupov

    • @wizzerwiser2056
      @wizzerwiser2056 Před rokem

      It wouldn't have mattered because Ryan Murray was the second overall pick and he too is also a bust.

  • @user-cf1se1kk5x
    @user-cf1se1kk5x Před rokem

    I’m so glad I didn’t have to go through this with you guys because you guys were all really

  • @richgrisham
    @richgrisham Před rokem

    I don't know who was the last to be drafted by the Oilers: Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, Anders, Coffey, Fuhr or Lowe. But after the Gretzky trade and up until they drafted McDavid, Edmonton wasted a ton of first-rounders. They certainly got their money's worth drafting 7 future HOF from 79 to 81. I know Gretzky wasn't drafted but still.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před rokem

      Neither was Messier. He first signed with the Indianapolis Racers(same team Gretzky would play for) for a few games then went to the Cincinnati Stingers.

  • @mattihp
    @mattihp Před rokem

    1:33 wow. I thought I'd never like a blue Pens jersey!

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 Před rokem

      I wish theyd go back to that colour scheme actually the 70's Pens sweaters were nice!....Dave Schultz!!! Denis Herron!!!

  • @mikerice1001
    @mikerice1001 Před rokem +1

    I dont think dipietro deserve to be on that list , he was a very talented goal tender but injuries ruin everything for him

  • @JeffreyJetsKohut
    @JeffreyJetsKohut Před rokem

    What about Claude Gauthier? Andre Veilleux? Rick Pagnutti?

  • @nathanadrian7797
    @nathanadrian7797 Před rokem +5

    What about Doug Wickenhieser?

    • @trevorwilson5496
      @trevorwilson5496 Před rokem

      You beat me to it. He was a massive bust. The habs picked him above Denny Savard

    • @Demy1970
      @Demy1970 Před rokem

      I was going to write the same thing, nice

  • @projektkobra2247
    @projektkobra2247 Před rokem +1

    At first, I was really angry at him, cuz he just seemed like a slacker....but the more you think about it, the more you realize you cant hardly blame DiPeitro, the Islanders were absolute morons to throw all that money at a simply mediocre goalie.
    Im sure he is shaking his own head to this day as he leaves his beachside mansion to cash his cheque.

    • @vangroover1903
      @vangroover1903 Před rokem

      He was pretty unlucky with injuries as well, but that contract was on them, not him, just like with Luongo in Vancouver.

  • @bjornalm9950
    @bjornalm9950 Před 8 měsíci

    The biggest draft bust must be Edmonton, five 1st and another four top ten in 2010-19...

  • @ronaldwayne7092
    @ronaldwayne7092 Před rokem +1

    Why did Brian Lawton wear #98? "Almost Gretzky."

    • @kpk33x
      @kpk33x Před rokem

      He said his two favorite #'s were 9 and 8 so he put them together. That earned him the nickname "Notch" as in one notch below Gretzky.

  • @canuck_gamer3359
    @canuck_gamer3359 Před rokem

    Yakupov was never supposed to be a generational player. He came out of a draft that wasn't very deep and he had unrealistic expectations put on him right from the start. If you look at his numbers, there was nothing wrong with his play. But when compared to what the fans THOUGHT they were getting, he had no chance.

  • @Bushman9
    @Bushman9 Před 4 měsíci

    Not sure how Doug Wickenhieser didn’t make the list.
    The Habs will never get over passing on a French kid named Denis Savard to draft that flop.
    FYI - I am aware of his unfortunate passing from cancer 20 years later, but don’t feel that garners a pass from the list.

  • @RageyRage82
    @RageyRage82 Před rokem

    That really put the NAIL in his coffin!

  • @jerseyforhawks
    @jerseyforhawks Před měsícem

    Its all relative, they all played in the NHL, the best league. Just because some GM overestimated their worth. Still solid.

  • @Kinger1625
    @Kinger1625 Před 2 měsíci

    Best pick? Lindros? They got the last few pieces before Roy to grab a cup…,but then got robbed when Quebec moved to Colorado. Man. Love hockey! lol.
    I will shhhh now!

  • @ASH-kj1di
    @ASH-kj1di Před rokem +1

    33 points in 88 games will get you a 5X4 in today's NHL....

  • @peacelovejusticeandnomercy

    Back in the 70’s, the Wings selected a center named Freddie Williams, with I believe the first overall pick. He was a bust and didn’t last long in the league.

    • @peacelovejusticeandnomercy
      @peacelovejusticeandnomercy Před rokem

      My mistake. He was picked fourth overall.

    • @jameshorton7496
      @jameshorton7496 Před rokem

      @@peacelovejusticeandnomercy , Williams didn't even last a season with the Wings. He was going to be their big top center, but just didn't have it for the NHL.

  • @jkappianaq
    @jkappianaq Před 8 měsíci

    I think Juraj Slafkovsky is should be added to the list.

  • @geoffstonehouse6304
    @geoffstonehouse6304 Před 10 měsíci

    This could almost be just a list of Edmonton draft busts, several of them bring first overall picks.

  • @joecacace311
    @joecacace311 Před 10 měsíci

    Growing up a devils fan in long island let me tell u there were no bright spots in Dipietro career

  • @mikehanzal9562
    @mikehanzal9562 Před 27 dny

    Lawton still stings considering who was coming out of that draft. Draft yzerman maybe north stars stay in Minnesota? Thanks Lou nanne

  • @PiaseckiAdam22
    @PiaseckiAdam22 Před rokem +2

    Hmm what are the best players drafted late rounds?

    • @nathanadrian7797
      @nathanadrian7797 Před rokem

      Brendan Gallagher should get a nod, he was drafted in the 5th round

    • @politicalbandwagon4989
      @politicalbandwagon4989 Před rokem +1

      Probably mostly goalies. Hasek, Lundqvist, Shesterkin.

    • @jimmysimard3008
      @jimmysimard3008 Před rokem +2

      Luc Robitaille (9th round) 1431 games, 668 goals, 726 assists and in the HOF

    • @jonmendelson1104
      @jonmendelson1104 Před rokem +2

      Dustin Byfuglien was taken 245th overall (8th round), Henrik Zetterburg was pick 210th overall (7th round), Joe Pavelski was picked 205th overall (7th round), Mark Stone was picked 178th overall (6th round), Robitaille was picked 171st overall (9th round), Pavel Datsyuk was picked 171st overall as well (6th round), etc.
      I was ignoring goalies because they tend to be more of "voodoo" and are often picked later than skaters.

    • @father042
      @father042 Před rokem +4

      Doug Gilmour, Theo Fleury, Brett Hull, Daniel Alfredsson, Pavel Bure, Peter Bondra, Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg, Joe Pavelski, Pekka Rinne

  • @wallyd2d
    @wallyd2d Před rokem

    I knew yak was garbage by his antics at the juniors. I was shocked when he still went high. It was clear as day he was a rotten apple.

  • @John-tp5gc
    @John-tp5gc Před 8 dny

    Doug Wickenheiser was a big bust. The Canadiens passed up Denis Savard for Wickenheiser.

  • @puckerings
    @puckerings Před rokem

    The Thrashers couldn't have drafted either Sedin. They had let it be known they wanted to play together, so whoever they drafted would have refused to sign with Atlanta.

  • @spacerazer
    @spacerazer Před rokem

    Daigle once said in jest at an airplane checkpoint I have a bomb. Then he wondered why he was arrested.

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 Před rokem

    I think we're being unfair to Joly. He was drafted to the equivalent of the 1976 Buccaneers and the Caps were straight crap for almost a decade. That era's Wings weren't much better.

  • @dynastywarriorlord07
    @dynastywarriorlord07 Před rokem

    In 1999, Canucks should have drafted Zetterberg in their 2nd round pick. Zetterberg was almost as good as the Sedins yet fell past round 7

    • @broadstreet21
      @broadstreet21 Před rokem

      Had they took Zetterberg, he might not have panned out the same. He was fortunate to play for the stacked Red Wings, who had too much time in the world to develop their prospects.