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Mk1 VW's are my passion and these cars are getting harder and harder to find. In June of 2020, I decided to grab a camera and start documenting all the fun I have with these cars; as I build and play in my garage. No fancy stuff here, just an average joe with general hand tools encouraging EVERYONE to get out in the garage yourself and do this too! Not only do I love all things Volkswagen (especially Mk1 VW's, Golf Rabbit Jetta Caddy Cabriolet Scirocco ) but I built this channel not as a step by step, or how-to channel but a channel aimed at Volkswagen ENTERTAINMENT in general. My hopes are to help support, encourage, and inspire, your builds at home in your garages!
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Mk1 VW's are my passion and these cars are getting harder and harder to find. In June of 2020, I decided to grab a camera and start documenting all the fun I have with these cars; as I build and play in my garage. No fancy stuff here, just an average joe with general hand tools encouraging EVERYONE to get out in the garage yourself and do this too! Not only do I love all things Volkswagen (especially Mk1 VW's, Golf Rabbit Jetta Caddy Cabriolet Scirocco ) but I built this channel not as a step by step, or how-to channel but a channel aimed at Volkswagen ENTERTAINMENT in general. My hopes are to help support, encourage, and inspire, your builds at home in your garages!
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Mk1 Golf 2.0 ABA Swap / HOT RODDING A 2.0L 8V pt.3 / 4 INTO 1 RACE HEADER / STILL WAITING ON PARTS
MK3/MK4 8v Deep Dive Info:
ABA:
Bore Diameter: 82.5 mm (3.25 in.)
Stroke: 92.8 mm (3.65 in.)
rod, ABA:159mm
Compression Ratio: 10:1
Horsepower: 115 @ 5,400 rpm
Torque: 122 ft-lb @ 3,200 rpm
OBD1 ABA's through 95 had forged cranks, under piston oil squirters and the dual valve spring heads, this allows for a cam with more lift without getting spring bind. Some had EGR, but that only made a small difference in the intake manny and management.
OD2's engines came out in 1996. OBD2 ABA's lost the good crank and squirters, went to a single valve spring design, and had a hole in the head for the smog pump.
The OBD1 ABA is an amazing engine to turbo. Rumor has it, VW originally set-out to design a turbo engine when they ran out of time / funding and decided to up the compression (with different pistons) and use it as a torquey N/A 4 cyl. Who knows if that story is true ... it certainly is possible as it is very unusual for a 115hp VW to have oil squirters ...!
AEG, AVH, AZG:
Bore diameter: 82.5 mm (3.25 in.)
Stroke: 92.8 mm (3.65 in.)
rod, AEG:141mm
Compression Ratio: 10:1
Horsepower: 115 @ 5,200 rpm
Torque: 122 ft-lb @ 2,600 rpm
the stroke length is maintained through different wrist pin heights and the shorter block (ie aba’s deck height change is equal to the change in rod length). Thus the shorter rod creates better low down torque but the ABA will rev better and make a wider torque curve (higher in the RPM band).
AEG heads do have swirl ports though… The intent is to swirl the mixture as a way to help it fill the cylinder at lower rpms. Its believed that this is one of the reasons the AEG makes better low-end torque than the ABA. However, the shorter deck and larger bore the the AEG is the primary reason for the greater torque though; this intake design is just a way to help fill the cylinders because of the shorter stroke.
Basically, the biggest difference comes in the power curves. The AEG+ engines give more torque and horsepower at the lower rpms. Mostly this is due to different camshaft profiles and the individual intake manifold runners compared to plenum in (MK3). The torque and hp actually comes LATER in the rpm range due to the different manifolds and the camshaft profiles! The MK4 intake manifold is longer and has individual runners. The longer the intake manifold runners, the earlier the torque comes. The shorter the runners the later the torque comes.
The AEG cylinder head is nothing more than a modified cast of the ABA placed on a 1.8T 06A block. Thats right,it is the block that has the 3 oil return drains in it NOT THE HEAD
Other Notes:
The AEG cross-flow is not a tall block, dropping back to 220mm like the earlier block (1.8). Suspect this was to enable it to fit the more aerodynamic hood lines that are becoming fashionable. Bore spacing, head-bolt pattern and all of that stuff is the same, but that's about where the similarities end.
The tall-block ABA cross-flow motor was transitional, and would bolt into a mk1 Rabbit. No such luck with the AEG-motor. There are no provisions for a front motor mount and no provisions for a side mount -- in fact, there are no provisions for the MkI/MKII motor mounts at all. There is no intermediate shaft, and thus no distributor-- and no place for one. The MkIV cars all have a coil-pack ignition, and since you can't add a distributor, you would have to swap the whole ignition system over to use this motor in an earlier car.
ABA’s have external water pump, intermediate shaft driven oil pump and distributor
AEG has a timing belt driven water pump and a chain driven oil pump thats built into the front of the engine, Audi style. Because of that, the AEG crank is not interchangeable with previous motors. It's a heavy cast crank, so serious, high-revving performance mods are probably not a good idea. The water pump is all in the block, and there is a different style of oil pan. The cylinder head bolts are 10mm diameter rather than 11mm.
Can you swap a AEG head on a ABA bottom end?
The AEG 8V head has the same 5 oil drain holes that the 20V heads have. You will hear a lot that, If you want to put it on an ABA block you will have to plug the three middle holes. However, this is not true! It is true only on the 20V head because the 20V head sticks out over the block, the 8V does not...
I believe its best to run dual valve springs on the OBD1 ABA head either way. This head seems to be the best flowing, least extra work head to use. Using the AEG head the manifolds should be fine, but since its on an aba anything you buy in the way of exhaust should be tailored to an ABA because of it's taller block.
In summary of AEG head on ABA… If it's an OBD2 ABA it wouldn't be any difference. If you have an OBD1 head, then I would stick with that over an AEG.
ABA:
Bore Diameter: 82.5 mm (3.25 in.)
Stroke: 92.8 mm (3.65 in.)
rod, ABA:159mm
Compression Ratio: 10:1
Horsepower: 115 @ 5,400 rpm
Torque: 122 ft-lb @ 3,200 rpm
OBD1 ABA's through 95 had forged cranks, under piston oil squirters and the dual valve spring heads, this allows for a cam with more lift without getting spring bind. Some had EGR, but that only made a small difference in the intake manny and management.
OD2's engines came out in 1996. OBD2 ABA's lost the good crank and squirters, went to a single valve spring design, and had a hole in the head for the smog pump.
The OBD1 ABA is an amazing engine to turbo. Rumor has it, VW originally set-out to design a turbo engine when they ran out of time / funding and decided to up the compression (with different pistons) and use it as a torquey N/A 4 cyl. Who knows if that story is true ... it certainly is possible as it is very unusual for a 115hp VW to have oil squirters ...!
AEG, AVH, AZG:
Bore diameter: 82.5 mm (3.25 in.)
Stroke: 92.8 mm (3.65 in.)
rod, AEG:141mm
Compression Ratio: 10:1
Horsepower: 115 @ 5,200 rpm
Torque: 122 ft-lb @ 2,600 rpm
the stroke length is maintained through different wrist pin heights and the shorter block (ie aba’s deck height change is equal to the change in rod length). Thus the shorter rod creates better low down torque but the ABA will rev better and make a wider torque curve (higher in the RPM band).
AEG heads do have swirl ports though… The intent is to swirl the mixture as a way to help it fill the cylinder at lower rpms. Its believed that this is one of the reasons the AEG makes better low-end torque than the ABA. However, the shorter deck and larger bore the the AEG is the primary reason for the greater torque though; this intake design is just a way to help fill the cylinders because of the shorter stroke.
Basically, the biggest difference comes in the power curves. The AEG+ engines give more torque and horsepower at the lower rpms. Mostly this is due to different camshaft profiles and the individual intake manifold runners compared to plenum in (MK3). The torque and hp actually comes LATER in the rpm range due to the different manifolds and the camshaft profiles! The MK4 intake manifold is longer and has individual runners. The longer the intake manifold runners, the earlier the torque comes. The shorter the runners the later the torque comes.
The AEG cylinder head is nothing more than a modified cast of the ABA placed on a 1.8T 06A block. Thats right,it is the block that has the 3 oil return drains in it NOT THE HEAD
Other Notes:
The AEG cross-flow is not a tall block, dropping back to 220mm like the earlier block (1.8). Suspect this was to enable it to fit the more aerodynamic hood lines that are becoming fashionable. Bore spacing, head-bolt pattern and all of that stuff is the same, but that's about where the similarities end.
The tall-block ABA cross-flow motor was transitional, and would bolt into a mk1 Rabbit. No such luck with the AEG-motor. There are no provisions for a front motor mount and no provisions for a side mount -- in fact, there are no provisions for the MkI/MKII motor mounts at all. There is no intermediate shaft, and thus no distributor-- and no place for one. The MkIV cars all have a coil-pack ignition, and since you can't add a distributor, you would have to swap the whole ignition system over to use this motor in an earlier car.
ABA’s have external water pump, intermediate shaft driven oil pump and distributor
AEG has a timing belt driven water pump and a chain driven oil pump thats built into the front of the engine, Audi style. Because of that, the AEG crank is not interchangeable with previous motors. It's a heavy cast crank, so serious, high-revving performance mods are probably not a good idea. The water pump is all in the block, and there is a different style of oil pan. The cylinder head bolts are 10mm diameter rather than 11mm.
Can you swap a AEG head on a ABA bottom end?
The AEG 8V head has the same 5 oil drain holes that the 20V heads have. You will hear a lot that, If you want to put it on an ABA block you will have to plug the three middle holes. However, this is not true! It is true only on the 20V head because the 20V head sticks out over the block, the 8V does not...
I believe its best to run dual valve springs on the OBD1 ABA head either way. This head seems to be the best flowing, least extra work head to use. Using the AEG head the manifolds should be fine, but since its on an aba anything you buy in the way of exhaust should be tailored to an ABA because of it's taller block.
In summary of AEG head on ABA… If it's an OBD2 ABA it wouldn't be any difference. If you have an OBD1 head, then I would stick with that over an AEG.
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i’m a the rear rotor mk2?
Does this set up still fit an AC? I’m in Texas and have to have AC for the intense heat.
What header did you replace? I’m working on a ABA swap into my mk1 GTi and trying to find headers to use on the cheap. I’m told the OBX Aba headers work fine but I’m not sure. The TT headers are awesome but that 500 bucks is the difference between this motor going in next week or next month. Thanks in advance
got a question dude what are you going to do about it being 4x100 on the back and 5x100 on the front is there a conversion you can do?
Hi , I've got this job to do on my mk2 gti pb 8v . I've got the 2.0 agg engine out of a 1999 mk3 golf but I've heard it's going to be 15 to 20mm taller ,( tall block) best easiest engine to swap as there's no wiring to change or different engine mounts , I'm no mechanic but tinker with cars all of the time . I plan to attempt this in the next few months
I want to Weber my aba obd2 how can I deal with timing advance?
I think you're confusing hot rodding with rat rodding. Hot rodding is doing what it takes to squeeze everything out of what you got. Rat rodding is doing it cheaply usually with mix and matching parts to make it faster
Hey I'm from Portugal, I want to change to a vr6 engine in the mk2, but I don't know which supports and front bar to use, or measurements to manufacture. Can you help me? Thank you and excellent projects
My MK5 Jetta has this 2.0 8v motor. engine code is BJZ
can you do the same with the rear?
love you vedio. can u please link ur coil pack setup and the front sway bar I can't seems to find them
Congrats for your VW amazing dedication in special this mk1 , I have one Atlantic 1986 gls 1.8 automatic four doors green color , I wan swap motor and transmission, you think this is possible ? How much could be the cost ? I can bring the car from México..... Or this is better carry with all parts and made work there. For your attention thanks.
Great Video, I have a mk4, it's got the later model apk, looks like the obd1 aba throttle body does bolt straight into the mk4 manifold. Did you have to make any brakets or just a straight fitment? Cheers
ABA engine... 159mm connecting rods , EA113 engine... 144mm connecting rods. Maybe is not a good choice change this engine... Maybe!
Quick question, can I do the same to the rear bumper?
What year model front section did you use on the front panel repair/replacement?
man where are you???
Hey i'm wonderding. Doing the same swap. How did you get the mk2 speedometer to work? Isn't the 2.0 8v gearbox a digital pulse sensor?
#WOOKIE 🔉🔊 SOUND 🥰 - That Smile 😊 17:32
can you attach a link for the ce2 pin out sheet
How you avoid limp mode on this or wat ecu or chip you are using
Is there a video on modifying the seat rail latch? I just got these same seats for the exact same Jetta hahaha
Great channel. What welder you using? E.g. Mig, no gas etc.
Hey, buddy Dismiss a customer's car. How much are you charging? This guy cause. I am about to start a project like this for someone. But I don't know how much I should charge him
COME BACK PLS I MISS YOUR CONTENT
it wouldn't be a Vw if it didn't break down brother ..
How much does it cost for that conversion
How much did Yu spend on this conversion
Rabbit Caddy CITI
Sick ride man! How’s it doing now? Would love to know
Buen día se le pueden adaptar a un golf mk3 1997
Every aba I've had has been stupid reliable.... ac pw steering delete, mk4 intake and exhuast manifold some sort or chip underdrive pulley.... make a fun daily reliable 30+ mpg car... oh yea even better if you get the scientific rabbit ported mk4 intake
Well i dont know about the mk4 but if the timing belt comes to snap, on an early aba, the valves and piston don't come in contact.
I have green EA and it only has rust under the windshield. Must be due to windshield being glued in vs he’d my seal.
one of the best teachers I had always said "if it has threads, bolt or screw head..its supposed to be played with" in regards too the safety wire on the fuel delivery or advance on diesel injection pumps. i wasn't into Vw's at the time but he said he had a lot of IDI tuning tips, i missed out on that but i always appreciate this kind of video, im on my second ABA, a late 98 GL that is getting a cam after learning all this. all praise TTuing, i just installed their short shift kit 👌
Awesome dub
Sick car man!
Head work is where it's at on an aba.
I did an 2.0l aba swap into my mk2 golf a few years back and know some tricks. I got 165hp at the flywheel.All na power.
I've always wonder why people like to drop the engine and not extract from the top? if an engine hoist isn't available sure but everyone always drops it and I found out going from the top is easier to extract and put back in... idk
What are you using fpr fuel pump???
You have a link or info on the fittings? I’m doing the same set up on my caddy and love your set up
What kind of jackstands are you using? If I may ask
Oii amigo onde consigo um supet charge
What brush on paint did you use for the wheel wells?
Do you still have the exhaust manifold?
Very nice video !! I have some questions about EGR doesn’t get deleted?