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Is Men of War 2 Worth Buying? A Comprehensive Review
Is Men of War 2 worth it? Is it better than Men of War Assault Squad 2? Gates of Hell Ostfront? Or Company of Heroes 3?
Men of War 2 does not change the established gameplay in a big way, but it does include a huge number of game modes for both PVP and PVE along with several Dynamic Campaigns and serious customisation options. But is that enough?
00:00 Intro
00:20 TLDR summary
02:43 Story modes
03:31 Historical dynamic campaigns
04:42 Skirmish types
06:32 Conquest dynamic campaigns
07:06 Raid dynamic campaigns
07:47 Quantity vs quality vs variety
08:14 Battalions (PvP & PvE)
08:54 Classic PvP
09:22 Combined arms PvP
09:50 Final customisable game modes
10:19 Final verdict - who is it right for?
For clarity I did receive a free review copy of the game from the developer. They have otherwise not sponsored this video in any way nor sort to sway my opinion on the game.
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Komentáře

  • @Omidion
    @Omidion Před 14 hodinami

    I'd advise you to take those 60sec tldr and put them on as YT shorts

  • @titusyoung141
    @titusyoung141 Před 18 hodinami

    Excellent video still relevant a year later

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 14 hodinami

      @titusyoung141 thank you!

  • @tapejara1507
    @tapejara1507 Před 19 hodinami

    the only good Ubisoft game in years

  • @boruta1034
    @boruta1034 Před 21 hodinou

    One thing I personally don't like is that they went with the 2nd world war once again. Sure, it's an interesting setting but I wish they tried something different. After all in the past we had Men of War: Vietnam that I remember fondly. Why not do a Men of War: Vietnam or Korea? Or a proper Cold War gone hot scenario, not that shitty DLC. They could even try their chances in modern setting. I really mean it, I have Men of War, Men of War: Assault Squad 1 and 2, Gates of Hell, Men of War 2 and they're all set in WW2. Despite its flaws, I really like the fresh and modern setting in Call to Arms and really appreciate the devs for experimenting with the franchise. Aside from the setting, another thing that in my opinion makes successors of Men of War underwhelming is how similar they look and (more or less) play. Some would say it's a good that they're all similar, but after 15 years it's reasonable to expect bigger improvements. Graphics in both GOH and MOW2 are just barely better than in MOWAS 2. Dynamic campaign was a nice experiment but it's too simplistic. Devs of both games should base it on Army General from Steel Division 2, where you have tactical (real time) and strategic (turn-based) mode where in the latter you can freely move units around the map, instead of picking one of two of three points to attack, then waiting for defense and repeat.

  • @user-vg1vj3yv4u
    @user-vg1vj3yv4u Před 22 hodinami

    Garbage game & a slap too the face , waste of money

  • @arifnurbain7722
    @arifnurbain7722 Před dnem

    Lets go comrade

  • @ricardoperez8444
    @ricardoperez8444 Před dnem

    Yo this game reminds me of Steel Division, btw Steel Division is fire, Just that Warno is WW3 instead of WW2

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 18 hodinami

      @ricardoperez8444 they are made by the same developer, so very similar!

  • @creedleader5583
    @creedleader5583 Před dnem

    After watching this and your Assault Squad 2 review, I went with Assault Squad 2. The best edition of AS2 is just $9.50USD on Steam, and as someone who always wanted to try out an RTS in this style but doesn't wanna drop $45 on a kinda iffy entry in the series I think I'll be content with my choice.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 18 hodinami

      @creedleader5583 I think you made the right choice. Assault squad 2 is a brilliant game and a way to dip your toe. If you like assault squad 2 you will enjoy men of war 2, but should also consider gates of hell Ostfront. Enjoy!

  • @OhioSigmaLand44
    @OhioSigmaLand44 Před dnem

    Are you able to play against ai bots in multiplayer? Similar to cod?

  • @tubecrafter9980
    @tubecrafter9980 Před 2 dny

    9:48 you don’t need cta anymore.

  • @Jambrd
    @Jambrd Před 2 dny

    just bought it guys wish me luck

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 2 dny

      @Jambrd Good luck! It would be good to hear what you think after you've had a chance to get to know the game

    • @Jambrd
      @Jambrd Před 2 dny

      I’ve returned, this game is really fun

    • @Jambrd
      @Jambrd Před 2 dny

      @@twiglets2 this game is a masterpiece, it has slight problems which u have mentioned but the game is great, I’m loving it so far and I’m sure others will as well they need to just give it a chance

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 2 dny

      @@Jambrd glad to hear you're enjoying it!

  • @Nikky1945
    @Nikky1945 Před 2 dny

    im waiting to see comments of how bad MoW2 is. came out just 5 days ago and is apparently Bad

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 2 dny

      @Nikky1945 it's overall pretty decent but with some issues. you have to be online all the time at the moment which is a big red line for many players

  • @solreaver83
    @solreaver83 Před 2 dny

    No commonwealth forces? That's me out. Sick of these games forgetting about us

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 2 dny

      @solreaver83 yes that's a big disappointment!

  • @iTomBass
    @iTomBass Před 2 dny

    Honestly to me it doesn't feel like MOW/AS2 at all. If it was at least comparable to AS2 I would at least feel somewhat happy with my purchase. Instead everything feels ten steps backwards and 'off' in a way it can be hard to describe. Infantry feel like pointless cannon fodder compared to older games. Vehicles are overly fast and the armour/penetration system leads a lot to be desired (even on the realism mode people harp on about). The regiment system leads to so many problems and feels like you barely have enough units. Even the 'classic' mode has problems. Repairing your own tank or AT gun? (which somehow hasn't blown up - so many unnecessary ammo explosions too but that's another point) well you better be sure you haven't called in another unit in that time otherwise you are hit with the 'Not enough CP to use allied unit' message....because that's fun. Shooting an enemy with a machine gun on your tank via direct control? Well better be sure they are in range and not on the edge of being out of range otherwise you will immediately stop shooting and receive a message simply saying 'too far'.... like literally what the fck? Who thought this was a good idea? Why not have a damage drop off like every other game in the series? Gates of Hell is simply better in almost every aspect. I wasn't expecting a GoH 2 but I was hoping for a somewhat coherent game that could at least bring some competition between the products but it's just so shallow. Don't get me wrong, there are some things I like. Though the list is very minor. Custom trenches and fortifications are nice but these take a long time to construct to the point where it feels like they don't gel with the fast pace nature of the game. Like I'd just want this expanded trench system in Gates of Hell. It's just awful decision after awful decision to the point where it doesn't feel like Men of War and this is before we even talk about always online and the steep price of the game. I've been playing this series since 2006 and this is just baffling....

  • @mccartney701
    @mccartney701 Před 2 dny

    Can you still keep playing after 1949 or whenever what year it ends?

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 2 dny

      @mccartney701 yup! You can just keep going. There are also many easy to install mods that will give you all kinds of experiences too

  • @CrazyFarseer
    @CrazyFarseer Před 2 dny

    Hmm, wasn’t all of this in the tutorial? A couple things I’ve learned in my recent play time: * I’m pretty sure that at the start of each mission, your entire fleet is set to passive stance. Your stance is not remembered. * When you have an opportunity to trade, you must left click on the trade partner to do so. * Formations have no hidden modifiers to ship stats. However, they are valuable for getting your ships to move in groups. That said, interceptors may not want to fly in formation when dogfighting.

  • @robzilla730
    @robzilla730 Před 3 dny

    On the version of RONs that I'm playing, citizens automatically go toward whatever mine, farm, logging camp etc that may have a manpower shortage. Pretty handy. Wish there was a way to find idle citizens tho. So i could get them working on projects...

  • @youvirgin1247
    @youvirgin1247 Před 3 dny

    Honestly the only positive is the optimization but overall there isn't anything that other games don't do better. Why pay for a shitty Arena rerelease when mowas2 is so cheap and Goh is on the market. Both of those games stick to the core audience, it's what people wanted not this arcady mess. Don't even mention realism mode as I've seen it and it doesn't mean anything as it's sidelined and should have been the main focus. Mowas2 and Goh still do realism better.

  • @commandercorl1544
    @commandercorl1544 Před 3 dny

    For some reason, the graphics in MoW2 look worse than the graphics in MoWAS2 to me. MoWAS2 looks grittier, and more realistic, whereas MoW2 is far too cartoony, and their faces look awful.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 3 dny

      @commandercorl1544 I think the graphics are more modern in MoW2 but I guess the art style (or however you want to describe it) could be more cartoony. I'm a bit disappointed with the character models overall

    • @commandercorl1544
      @commandercorl1544 Před 2 dny

      @@twiglets2 I think I do agree. Like the overall amount of pixels is better, they look less lie they're from a PS3 game, but yeah, for being a more modern game, the character models are significantly less historically accurate.

  • @vintagedude5905
    @vintagedude5905 Před 3 dny

    Ive always liked the men of war series, played it since it was called faces of war. i really like the direct controll ability, just command a scquad here and there while you direct controll a soldier you outfitted with a big machine gun. Speaking of outfitting soldiers, is there still a inventory system in the game? like you can go to a dead soldier, pick up their weapon and grenades, and also pick up med kits and repair kits to heal soldiers and repair tanks. Its always been the case in previous games, i wonder if its also still in this game since you did not showed it in this review.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 3 dny

      @vintagedude5905 absolutely, the inventory is basically the same in this game as it was in previous games.

    • @vintagedude5905
      @vintagedude5905 Před 3 dny

      @@twiglets2 Cool, good to know. i really love that aspect of this game series, it makes it unique compared to other RTS games. its also a lot of fun, and being able to repair enemy tanks is also fun and increases your win chances.

  • @NahThisIsPatrick
    @NahThisIsPatrick Před 3 dny

    its not, youre welcome

  • @boraonline7036
    @boraonline7036 Před 3 dny

    You should review a wrestling game and use military terms in it! Wonder how that would sound! 😂

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 3 dny

      @boraonlone7036 haha! Well, we won't find out unless I try!

  • @Britephartt
    @Britephartt Před 3 dny

    Why is this no better than MOWAS 2 from 13 years ago? My least favourite devs because they've take my favourite game and wasted it's potential.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 3 dny

      @Britephartt You don't have to buy a dlc to play a skirmish against the ai, that's a pretty good upgrade over MowAS2!

  • @darkbut8864
    @darkbut8864 Před 3 dny

    yeah is a good game sad that i cant invest the time to learn and master it

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 3 dny

      @darkbut8864 yeah this one is definitely a time pit

  • @portman8909
    @portman8909 Před 3 dny

    Looks good tbh. I bought it despite also having gates of hell. I don't mind something more arcade not everything needs to be realistic.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 3 dny

      @portman8909 exactly, I like your style

  • @quicksixhatchofficial2880

    Rubbish game

  • @alfredopotatogaming7033

    my opinion is that the playtest was fun but I would prefer realism mode and the game is currently overpriced.

  • @MaceUK71
    @MaceUK71 Před 4 dny

    Was on the fence about this game due to hearing things you mentioned as rumours online. But after watching your excellent review I'm buying it! Thanks for the review and I've subbed too :)

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @MaceUK71 thank you, I'm glad it was useful!

  • @user-mc4qs4op6r
    @user-mc4qs4op6r Před 4 dny

    Does this game have custom game play like u can create ur own game match ?

  • @RUPSIEISMYNAME
    @RUPSIEISMYNAME Před 4 dny

    At 1.35 you made a remark stating that the: tank armor is your hp bar. I have to call you on that. If the type gun has a better penetration then your armor, it will get destroyed. Butttttt If your armor is greater then the penetration of the tank it will never make serious damage to your tank (especially in the older games) resulting in that your crap tanks get blasted away by 75 mm like they are made of paper. But a 37 mm can't touch a king tiger and it only makes funny sounds when the shell hits the tank.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @RUPSIEISMYNAME I mean the hull hp rather than the tank as a whole, if that makes sense? I think we agree with each other but I could have phrased it more accurately!

  • @alehchyzhyk5603
    @alehchyzhyk5603 Před 4 dny

    Wtf is wrong with vehicles ? From 0 to max instantly, turn instantly, stop instantly. Turrets in guns spin like they are attached to a hyper drive. All tanks are just exploding, almost no possibility to recapture it. Honestly idgaf about various campaign modes if all of them have same crappy physics and unusable UI

  • @MightyMordoogle
    @MightyMordoogle Před 4 dny

    I tried watching a number of CZcams videos about MoW2 but none of them gave me a great sense of what to expect, until I watched this video. So thanks very much @twiglets2, this was the best video I've seen yet on MoW2 and it convinced me to give the game I shot. As someone who owns but barely played the previous games in the MoW series but played many many hours of modded CoH, CoH2 and someone who also rates more or less all WW2 RTS games against the venerable Close Combat series I grew up playing in the late 90s, I have to admit I was struggling to decide whether to try out MoW2 or not. I passed on CoH3 because I felt it looked/felt a lot more "arcadey" than CoH2 or CoH1 but I also really struggled to get into the MoWAS games because it just felt extremely clunky and required so much micromanagement of individual squads which is not really to my taste. Hopefully MoW2 will fill the void that's been missing in my WW2 RTS heart since I stopped playing CoH2 Spearhead Mod years ago. Thanks again @twiglets2!

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @MightyMordoogle you're welcome, I hope it was useful! I suspect you will find the same clunkiness in men of war 2 but there is a decent chance it will be right for you based on what you say. The settings are very flexible!

  • @johnelliott7850
    @johnelliott7850 Před 4 dny

    I've got the game (as of yesterday). I felt your round-up seemed fair, from all I've already seen and heard. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of buying Company Of Heroes 3 some time ago. This is in a different league.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @johnelliott7850 Ouch re purchasing company of heroes 3. I hope your experience with men of war 2 is better!

    • @johnelliott7850
      @johnelliott7850 Před 4 dny

      @@twiglets2 Ha! Ha! Ha! As do I with your experience of COH-3.

  • @ElliottSmith75
    @ElliottSmith75 Před 4 dny

    It’s Russian dev trash.

  • @bumpermanthesecond615

    My thoughts on this is that the devs are releasing the game to see if the people like their new concept of gameplay or not, because they announced in their discord that the game will be patched regularly.

    • @alehchyzhyk5603
      @alehchyzhyk5603 Před 4 dny

      They had multiple tests before release. No one liked that arcady mechanics, they still released it

  • @huantruonginh2946
    @huantruonginh2946 Před 4 dny

    Goh rules period

  • @Czecher86
    @Czecher86 Před 4 dny

    nope its arcade garbage stuck in 2005 graphics..

  • @mandead
    @mandead Před 4 dny

    The main thing that puts me off MoW2 is the lack of a UK/Commonwealth faction - and especially when they did an Operation Overlord campaign, in which the majority of the troops were UK and Commonwealth. I think that's a real shame.

    • @buckcherry2564
      @buckcherry2564 Před 4 dny

      those got added later in MOWAS2 same with japan

    • @portman8909
      @portman8909 Před 3 dny

      They'll likely get added later for free or maybe as DLC.

    • @omare4682
      @omare4682 Před 2 dny

      the developers i belive russians what you expect it will be rubbish game

    • @buckcherry2564
      @buckcherry2564 Před 2 dny

      @@omare4682 They are Ukrainian. Even if they were Russian that doesnt automatically make them bad devs. your comment is ignorant and weak-minded.

    • @markussuppe
      @markussuppe Před 2 dny

      @@omare4682 devs are from Ukraine

  • @dakinoytc986
    @dakinoytc986 Před 4 dny

    Conclusion Men Of War 2 is not a bad game, just not my style compare of CTA East Front. Thank you Twiglets2 :)

  • @jacksheldon8566
    @jacksheldon8566 Před 4 dny

    I appreciate your neutrality in this review. However it is a shame that when you talked about classic and combined arms, the video just showed tank only battles instead of the respective gamemodes.

    • @jacksheldon8566
      @jacksheldon8566 Před 4 dny

      I didn't knew that fixing a spelling mistake would take out the youtuber's like.

  • @vonvonvonvonvonvonvonvonvo7009

    "If you enjoy GoH or MoWAS2 you will enjoy MoW2" is just false, every person I know that likes MoW2 are people who haven't played or didn't like the previous titles, it is a pure downgrade on so many levels to the older titles, and no, the realism mode does not at all fix the reasons for it's terribleness, you still have the ni-immortal healthbar tanks that the KV-2 always wins with infantry made of tissue paper.

  • @a.bridges
    @a.bridges Před 4 dny

    Great review as always sir! Thank you very much!

  • @davidbruce7350
    @davidbruce7350 Před 5 dny

    not as good as gates of hell. i wont be buying

    • @portman8909
      @portman8909 Před 3 dny

      I really don't understand these hardcore gates of hell fanboys. I like both games in their own way.

  • @praevasc4299
    @praevasc4299 Před 5 dny

    Do soldiers have an option to automatically pick up ammo for their main gun in a short radius around them? The lack of this was the most infuriating thing in the original. The original was fun for small infiltration-type missions with only a few men, but for any larger scale there was too much micromanagement.

    • @jacksheldon8566
      @jacksheldon8566 Před 4 dny

      In all gamemodes with the frontline, all units auto resupply on the spot when staying inside your frontline area... ^^"

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @praevasc4299 the units auto resupply when near an ammo truck or ammo box which is kinda neat

  • @naru6081
    @naru6081 Před 5 dny

    I bought it. Dont think the game warrents all the bad reviews seems like people just hating always online function and lots of gates of hell fanboys. Game seems good so far i do admit they were lazy on the voice acting its bad but passable and the always online was a D move but other than that its good game so far. Will admit i am new to the series i will state because i k kw people are upset coming from the previous games

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @naru6081 it's interesting to hear the opinion of someone who is new to the series!

  • @Ealdorman_of_Mercia

    The game felt arcadish to me… I also hate the audio, sound design of weapons and tanks is awful, the voice lines are absolutely shit, immersion breaking, units feel and move very arcadish.. I like the concept and content but it just feels like the raninbow siege compared to ready or not.

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @Ealdorman_of_Mercia I think we can all agree the voice overs are painful to listen to!

  • @chantan9358
    @chantan9358 Před 5 dny

    Thanks for that two minute TLDR! Ive never came across your channel before but I like how you do things! Keep it up!

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @chantan9358 thank you! Hope it was useful

    • @negima1276
      @negima1276 Před 4 dny

      Extra factions will undoubtedly be added as DLC

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @@negima1276 agreed, and a shame they are unlikely to be free additions. One of the main appeals of assault squad 2 was the number of factions as standard

  • @zzirSnipzz1
    @zzirSnipzz1 Před 5 dny

    If they had maybe gave us British forces something different for a change

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @zzirSnipzz1 100%, disappointed by the lack of factions

    • @twiglets2
      @twiglets2 Před 4 dny

      @zzirSnipzz1 100%, disappointed by the lack of factions

  • @kihohoki3382
    @kihohoki3382 Před 5 dny

    Awesome detailed review

  • @Napswhilewatchin
    @Napswhilewatchin Před 5 dny

    1:33 Still think they changed the tank damage models. Tanks take alot less damage and almost all of the tanks explode when HP hits 0. Also the claim "Hull HP was always a thing" is strange. In older MoW and GoH, tanks can sometimes take an absurd amount of penetrating shots, without beeing disabled/destroyed. Something about the tanks is off.

    • @jacksheldon8566
      @jacksheldon8566 Před 4 dny

      Are you talking about realism or competitive setting? The hp thing in other mow games and GOH is true. You can still damage all tank components in mow2. The weird feeling must come from mowas2 where tanks could randomly get one shot because of an RNG system.

    • @Weihnachtskeks95
      @Weihnachtskeks95 Před 4 dny

      IMHO i think the game is more balanced now, you can kill any Tank kinda easy.. i dont like the HP thing... in AS2, as far as i can remember, i never noticed something like HP.. just armor thicknes and penetration. yet its a great game and i love playing it.

    • @buckcherry2564
      @buckcherry2564 Před 4 dny

      Realisim mode makes tanks survive "death" to be stolen far more often

    • @ChrisSmith-yw6tn
      @ChrisSmith-yw6tn Před 4 dny

      I think it's possible they had a sort of abstract hp bar that was hidden, although I did notice that in the new game, tanks seems to die outright a lot more than being repairable like in the other games. I also noticed it seems like AT grenades "lock" to vehicles, whereas soldiers would miss often in the older games.

    • @Detrian159
      @Detrian159 Před 4 dny

      Simply not true. If you don't hit anything that causes an instant loss, it takes exactly five shots from a P4F2 to destroy a Tiger in GoH. Every time. I uploaded a video showing as much and if you search for HEALTH, HEALTHBARS, THE TRUTH! on google/Steam, you can find a post from the GoH devs themselves explaining they use HP too.