Hell Let Loose - New Content
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- It's been a few months since Team 17 ditched their ambitious new content roadmap and declared war on bugs and optimization for Hell Let Loose. But after a flurry of activity and resolving some of the most historic bugs, a whole bunch of new content is being announce and will be released over the coming months.
What is it? Are all the bugs gone now? What should they do next? We discuss all that and more in this video.
00:00 Intro
00:26 The new content!
03:22 The remaining issues
04:44 The long term issues
06:12 Steam rating woo! Player numbers boo!
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Where do you think Team 17 should go from here? Keep their heads down and fix more bugs? Or is it time to start thinking about more content? Personally I'm just happy they've sorted some key historic bugs, it shows some intent at least, but eventually we'll want something new like the Polish faction and the winter war, and the player numbers show it may need to come sooner than later!
Need server browser on console and I’ll be completely fine
Keep squashing those bugs so they don’t have another mess in their hands with another British like update
@@JennaTills69 from what I've read they've said they are looking into a server browser for console but that it's difficult to implement, so I guess that means it won't be this year!
@@RomelMaldonado hell yes. Hopefully with the upcoming updates the content for the Brits will be where it should have been months ago
Yeah after the British were added and that update was garbo I haven't touched HLL it had its problems but that was really the last straw
Why does everyone complain about all the stuff Team 17 haven't done yet but 95% of it is all legacy from Black Matter?!?!?!?
@Logan44032 it's a good point. But how long until Team17 can no longer play that card? I think the Brit update was pretty much all blackmatter so from now on it's all Team17.
I think it's a valid point to blame them for pushing new content when actually the existing content required serious attention. Glad to see they've concentrated on bug fixes these past few months.
I think it’s because they released a crazy roadmap, said it would all come out this year, and then just didn’t adhere to that…… I could be wrong I haven’t been keeping up on a HLL but got an urge to get back into it
@@adammacfarland8811 yeah the original roadmap was very ambitious. Even if the base game had been in a decent state it would have been a lot to deliver!
Personally I do think their bug fixing is starting to make a real difference but it will be interesting to see where we are in 2024!
Would be nice of them if they add a button to press the grass down/clear the site in front of you when you're laying down
@adpraeter9403 That's such an awesome idea. The amount of times I'm laying there as a machine gunner and can't see anything due to a few blades of grass is infuriating!
Literally the best idea for this game in years
Yeah have fun coding that
@@randomclipsmilitary9056there are plenty of games that naturally push the grass down around you when you're prone. makes you slightly more visible that you would be if all the grass is clipping through you but it's realistic and you're still concealed by the grass around you. it's not impossible to work in
@@DRGEngineer Having a command that has a button for you to push it down on command is hard
Some placeable or vehicle mounted spotlights/ floodlights or fires tgst xan be lit would be good for night maps
@harveynash7846 that's an awesome idea! Whenever I next have a rant they will definitely be included
FLAMETHROWERS! They are useless atm. I shouldnt be able to stand close to the flames when someone is firing at me. Tanks should, as you said be more intimidating and be able to just drive through trees and hedges. SO annoying to get stuck on small sticks.
@KunAndersan It would be so cool if tanks could run over trees etc at the moment they seem so feeble! Tank shells exploding on a fence post is also infuriating
I'm personally excited about the future of this game. My coworkers really enjoy MilSim games so I told them about the free weekend coming up which they responded that they are excited to try it out. Seeing that Team17 is listening and slowly working on some of the games legacy bugs bring me a fair bit of hope. I'm not expecting major content releases in 2024, If I'm being completely honest. I would prefer if they got some of the larger bugs out of the way (and some reworks done) before doing so cause you do have good points about Arty, Armor, and medics (and other things you brought up) needing looked at and changed to be more viable. I personally have been happy with the matches I've been playing with my brother on Console or with randoms on PC, so I absolutely do not mind if Team 17 takes a bit for major content updates. I'll be here until the end. Overall, this was a nice video to watch. You're so fluid with the way you speak and your voice reminds me a lot of LEMiNO's videos. Happy Commenting Again!
@PennySaverProductions Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Am I right in thinking you would like a server browser on console?!
I'm the same as you really, enjoying the game and starting to notice the improvements in performance. I'm excited for the new tanks for the Brits so hope they take their time before releasing new content!
@@twiglets2 Absolutely, I’m still really hoping for a server browser on console. I still get empty matches sometimes and have to restart the game.
New content in 2024 would be unexpected (welcomed of course) but I’m hoping they just tweak mechanics and fix bugs so by 2025 everyone is ready
@@Penndrick I have my fingers crossed they do just that! A tutorial for new players is sorely lacking, it's a confusing game at first!
when is the free weekend?
@@dizzyguy7423 it's in November, I don't think they've announced the exact date yet but I may be wrong
I love the night maps
@drgreenbaum3520 what is it you like so much about the night maps? I'm curious!
Started playing about a month ago and pretty much spend all my free time playing, have about 70 hours clocked and so far I haven’t had this much fun playing games in a while. It’s such an easy Milsim to get into and being my first milsim it makes me want to play other ones. I still think yeah they can work out somethings but hope some more people will try out this game.
@rays_n Do you find that squads communicate most of the time? Hell let loose is at its best when players talk to coordinate but it seems there is less talk these days!
Squad is worth a try if you enjoy hell let loose, but it's more hardcore in my opinion
I just started as well (maybe 20 hours), not my first though. My first was America's Army back in the day. I think HLL is an absolutely great game. It has been a bit of a relearning curve to get back into the realism of it, not just running in like some super soldier like other games. I find the in game voice chat works perfect, and at least with the servers I have joined the communication has been pretty good, and I like multiple chat channels for different functions (though I'm not a fan of having to use push to talk, but I will get used to it). Don't get me wrong, I have gotten into games where there is zero communication and it does SUCK and you suffer for it. maybe I have just gotten lucky, but almost all of the games I have joined at least my squad communicates.... they may not stick together like they should, but I think communication is the bigger part.
I noticed the video mentioned the need for a swivel cam? if that is what I'm thinking, being able to rotate the cam to see around corners (like 3rd person), then I would have to disagree. that would take away from the realism. You should not be able to peek while not putting yourself at risk. If you are just talking being able to look around without moving your weapon/body, then I guess I agree, it could be nice just for prone situations so you can look around without your legs flailing all over giving your position away as your whole body rotates. Maybe you dont even need a free cam, just give a degree of movement (similar to MG bi-pod) while prone that up till that point is free from body motion, then does the body motion so it is not locking you in like MG does.
@@odinbloodraven1507 I'm glad to hear you've had a good experience with the game, all too often it's the bad experience that is highlighted so good feedback is refreshing!
With the swivel cam I was thinking that when running through a field you should be able to look left and right while still running forward, whereas at the moment you have to strafe your whole body sideways which slows you down drastically. I definitely wouldn't want a third person view to peak around corners, I agree with you 100% on that.
You raise an interesting point on the view while prone. It's especially annoying when trying to find a position as an MG and a few blades of grass obstruct your view. Being able to look around without your whole body moving and being able to push down the grass in front of you would be two very welcome additions to the game!
Out of interest do you play on a specific server? I've found the gameplay experience varies dramatically from server to server in terms of communication etc
Snow/rain would be a cool addition to the game but it would be sick if they added some of the Italian battles with a Italy load out as well as the pacific theater tons of options to add new content and give different gameplay with all the tunnels and gorilla tactics used historically
@thegamingdj4347 Hell yeah that'd be awesome! Italy should be on the cards as they've introduced the Brits and North Africa
I like the atmospheric variety that the night versions brings. I would also like there to be rain along with other ordinary weather effects!
@ArcticChonk Rain would be cool, there are a few missed opportunities that I hope they get back to
The Matilda really shouldn't be in the heavy tank slot like the firefly but team 17 is always on some shit
@bigmonke7661 they don't seem to care too much about what goes where!
@@twiglets2 Unfortunately, it's the case like how they reincreased player speed fantastic great idea, but then they didn't increase tank speed to realistic speeds
@@bigmonke7661 100% with you on that. Player speed needs to be increased so slowing it back down again creates a problem in my opinion. It's a big part of the reason I keep saying they need to update armour, there is so much wasted potential there, plus increasing the speed of course
Damn you are hella underrated twiglets. Keep it up!
@robotboogie8998 thank you my friend, very cool name by the way!
I've been playing this game since december of 2022, and so far, it's been one of my favorites!
Im hoping that with the british rework thats coming out in November, we'll see (like you pointed out in your video) the stuart and the earlier model lee enfield; but I'm also hoping that they'll be able to introduce in time, other weapons/vehicles they mentioned in an earlier dev brief/reddit vote, like the M1928A1 thompson, MK V sten, and crusader and churchill tanks.
In addition to these new weapons, I'm hoping they'll consider adding the M1928 thompson, with its signature fore grip and 50-round drum magazine, as not only both could mirror how the soviet loadouts go, with their stick and drum mags for their ppshs, but it would also give that needed boost of squad-level firepower to counter the germans and their smgs/mgs.
Now I could blabber so much more like reworking the armor aspect of the game while simultaneously adding new classes of vehicles like tank destroyers and/or self-propelled guns. Or perhaps swapping out/introducing more historically accurate vehicles/weapons to make the match/map feel more historically accurate.
This game has SO much potential to be better. It just needs to take small steps, like reworking/bug fixing to keep the game in line, but also adding small bits of new content like vehicles or weapons to keep the gameplay fresh; rather than dropping one massive update like a faction one, and seeing more possible bugs to fix and the gameplay becoming stale over a couple of months.
@pineapplerepublic3215 excellent point. Small but regular content drops containing interesting and historically accurate vehicles etc would be so much better than big content drops.
As a Canadian I do enjoy the British stuff being worked on. Every WW2 shooter is obvioisly heavy with US German and Soviet stuff....the fact that I get to use the NoV MK1 jungle carbine is epic!!
@jamesbennett5189 greetings, I've always wanted to go to Canada! It would be cool if they gave us some more Canadian goodies, and other commonwealth countries for that matter.
@@twiglets2 my grandpa was from england and fought for the canadians. I even own a .303 british carbine .
@@jamesbennett5189 awesome!
Have it the other way around allmost no soviet but plentyof american and british
I'm more concerned about their job layoffs going on now, whether it'll affect HLL directly is a mystery but it's still something to keep an eye out for.
With regards to this video, the update is a case of 1 step forward and 2 steps back because this update shouldn't exist, we should've had this "content" as soon as the British arrived. Regarding the night maps...
>Laughs in Nvidia filters
@kennethbowers2897 yes the layoffs are problematic. I saw a petition for Wombat medic (?) To keep her job and when she replied to the messages she didn't exactly deny that the layoffs would affect her unfortunately.
Also, I was perusing the Team17 financials and they look healthy, very healthy. The largest shareholder withdrew many millions in 2022 and has now left, but now they sack people....sooo capitalism I guess?!
Love the Night maps by the way. Adds more tension and the mussle flashes in the slightly foggy maps is *muah* crisp
@chrishamilton7516 Very atmospheric!
I would rather just have a day and night cycle since maps due get long so I agree with the weather just to change the approach to areas and attack points
I played HLL during the W.I.P. days, aka early access, and it just isn't what it used to be. Loads of mutes, no teamwork.
Which is such a different for someone like me who spent like 650 hours in the game during the beginning. Surely I wasn't a professional player with great aim. But I met a lot of great people during that time, that all stopped playing. They were very passionate about the game, like me. But we tried out Post Scriptum, that didn't cut it either. HLL absolutely is not the game what it used to be.
Instead of a fun good commander, you got a commander that NEEDS to win and constantly nags for nodes. How do I know? I sometimes dust HLL off from my steam library to check what flipping hell happened to it. But I have no intention to try it out. All of the old school players went on with their part of life, due COVID being...whatever so everyone moved on.
Personally, I think the player count is high due livestreams and people making loads of content for it, such as funny moments, and whatever. (Excluding your video, I just found your channel due Anno 1800.)
When HLL began they aimed for absolute historical accuracy, they stated that multiple times, a lot of times even. Yet, we got a blimming Panther in Africa. We got a Firefly in Africa(Mind you the firefly did NOT exist at that time period.) Therefore they threw the historical context right out of the window the moment they sat on the green light and began to become populair. Which in my opinion just saddens me.
Yes, they(the developers) communicate proper with their players , as they did from the beginning already. But now? I feel like it's just going downhill and the good teamwork orientated players are leaving as well, not because they hate it. But because HLL just doesn't feel the same anymore. As it did in the beginning.
@n1els1914 it's interesting to hear from someone who played the game that long ago. I've played for maybe two years but haven't seen the changes you have.
I have noticed how less players talk. I expected it on free weekends but even during regular play or well known servers! I'm not sure what the answer is as you can't force people to talk, but the game is so much better with communication!
@@twiglets2 Honestly there is no answer to it. As you said, you cannot force them. But in the description it used to state that a mic was required. Teamwork and communication spiked in the early days and you could easily curbstomb the enemy within the 20 minute mark of the match. I had a great time back them. Good to see people are still somewhat getting that experience as well, to be fair.
My point still stands though, it genuinely isn't what it used to be. I saw a lot of changes , like the normal squad outpost can no longer be spawned all aroind the map. It was a welcome change. But that was just to give an example.
But the communication did severely drop between the players all in all, and a lot of people went for kills thinking like a BF/COD monkey that kills mattered. But it doesn't. Teamwork makes the match work, and genuinely fun.
I don't think I'll be re-installing it anytime soon as they did ditch the historical aspect. But I'll keep my eye out. Especially since I am subscribed to your channel, which means updates? 😃😉
@@n1els1914 I guess that's what made hell let loose special at the time. You can't force people to communicate, but they did!
Oh definitely there will be updates, hopefully positive ones too!
I've played since the start as well (early early access 😂) and still do. It's the one game I enjoy more than anything else. I do work mostly with people I know either in a tank or a squad. Communication is vital as you've stated. Vehicle mechanics could do with an upgrade for sure! New people are afraid to talk, that's what I've noticed. They see a level 300+ and are too scared that they'll say something wrong. I usually joke with them to get them to talk. (and no I'm not Australian) heard that question about a thousand times since the beginning 😂😂
I've played since the start as well (early early access 😂) and still do. It's the one game I enjoy more than anything else. I do work mostly with people I know either in a tank or a squad. Communication is vital as you've stated. Vehicle mechanics could do with an upgrade for sure! New people are afraid to talk, that's what I've noticed. They see a level 300+ and are too scared that they'll say something wrong. I usually joke with them to get them to talk. (and no I'm not Australian) heard that question about a thousand times since the beginning 😂😂
Nice video, I think it would have held my attention a little more if you had included sounds from the gameplay :)
@1loumellor51 thanks, noted for the future!
I got the loadout bug last night. Drove me crazy. Tried everything we knew what to do. Switched kits, dropped from the recon squad and rejoined. No dice.
@d-rot Ahh useful to know. Just because they say it's fixed doesn't mean it is!
Man I'd love to see the early panzer ii come to africa and eastern front maps. But more than that, i wanna see the sd.kfz.222 show up as a recon vehicle in early war maps
@nickysimi9866 the early panzers would be so cool!
The correct name of the second mentioned german DLC outfit is 'Erbsenmuster' (peas pattern).
@GermanHoering Thank you! Especially for the peas pattern :)
Day to night cycle in game would be so immersive im all for that
@TheDeal187 Let's hope they do it some time!
I just want them to get the P37 webbing correct first
@snazzydares8787 now that would be impressive detail! Then again, if you say your game is all about historic accuracy perhaps it shouldnt be hard to get that right
I voted for the Matilda as it's a really unique tank and is exceptionally british as far as tanks go. But I understand gameplay wise why the community chose the Crusader
@nikolasubaric Hopefully we will get both eventually
On console it’s the stuttering. It’s so bad. That and the grind for class lvls. I’ve put in around 200+ hours now and greatly enjoy the game. But the stuttering is so bad sometimes that you can’t play. El Alemain and Stalingrad are super bad in terms of performance.
@Duke-3508 I should have mentioned the grind. I've basically given up on the fg42. They've talked a lot about improving the stuttering so hopefully there are improvements there soon. And I hope you guys get a server browser!
@@twiglets2grind is not as bad on hell let loose compared to enlisted! Enlisted grind is aweful!
@@alexvangen745 oh god yeah, I basically gave up on fighting with anything better than a ww1 weapon in enlisted!
Someone told me they are making changes so the grind isn't so bad but we shall see if they deliver on that. It's so epic when a plane strafes, leaves bombs in the ground that leave a huge crater
@@twiglets2 I haven’t played in a few months in enlisted but I do really enjoy the game overall despite the grind! I unlocked m1 Garand in enlisted fairly early On because I played so much lol
Are they going to buff the Lee Enfield's fire rate?
The brits don't have any semi-autos so that would make sense realistically and game balancing wise.
Also...
FIRE SELECTORS 😶
@danielcunha4377 the next update will definitely buff the Brit weaponry so here's hoping for more rounds in a mag and better fire rates! I'm also impatient for a bren bipod.
They mentioned including fire selectors but didn't commit to anything saying it was easier said than done. I would guess next year
I just hope they dont turn it into another enlisted...the night maps are ok just need muzzle flash ect..and more wepons for the English army or at least speed up the cycle rates of the rifles..
@preacher009 hopefully the next update will improve the brit forces, they need it!
Night naps, yes. However, tracers muzzle flash etc . Need to be improved, and flare guns for officers and commander and yes dynamic weather, and the sound package from PS, yes please.
@cl2raven266 if they did all that it would be a pretty awesome upgrade!
Love the game. Havent stopped playing since i got it about a year ago.
@jasonfrederick5210 That's awesome, it's players like you that keep the game going! Have you noticed it change much for better or worse since you started playing??
@twiglets2 That's a tough question. I think the devs truly want us to enjoy the game and it can be hard to please everyone. I think maybe a game mode for players who don't care as much for communication and want more action would help separate players who want different styles of play. The current game modes aren't stale. They just aren't for everyone. I think really what draws all these different types of players are the core mechanics of the game; how the guns and movement are more realistic, how being restricted with what you can do creates unique challenges that require you to get creative, instead of just creating a class perfect for every situation.
@@jasonfrederick5210 that's a great idea. Two game modes so players get the experience they want.
Perhaps that was the intention when the Devs announced a game mode that was smaller, both in map size and time. I wasn't against that personally.
*Sees the are going to get desert uniforms*
THANK YOU
agreed,, night maps need improvements on tracers and muzzle flash!! atm it basically doesn’t really exist
@tunaeater894 Ah yes I hadn't even thought about tracers, good shout
Id say for the terms of artillery its obscenely effective but immensly frustrating having a recon team within 30min absolutely tormenting you. Id recommend mortars or like they suggested self propelled artillery
@CHIBIAINSWORTH I know a lot of players like artillery but something needs to change to make the game more challenging and fun. Right now artillery seems to make the game tedious more than anything, for both the gunner and the artillery magnet
@twiglets2 i get it but being able to soften up enemy strongpoints for your team to push without needing to convince the commander for a bombing or strafing run makes for great team play imo
@@CHIBIAINSWORTH Absolutely! I guess a balance needs to be struck, for both artilleryman and the recon units
@twiglets2 yea i feel bad for the recons though instead of picking off garrisons and supplies they are stuck keeping men off the guns the whole game if artillery is efficient
@@CHIBIAINSWORTH exactly!
I would love to see a white phosphorus anti personnel shell for tank crews.
@phatporpoise3330 it would be visually interesting too
At this point, they have fixed the class bug and the grenade bug, so I am ready for new content, full steam ahead!!
If they can make a fix for the bipod and the tanks along the way then great. And also mortars.
But maybe one fix with one map at a time. I could be all on board for that!
The egregious stuff has been addressed
@redwolfgamevideo there's more to do but I agree, new content needs to be added to keep things moving. I just hope they don't totally bugger things up when they release new content!
@@twiglets2 for sure, but at this point they have gained my trust. If problems arise they will fix it, as they have done with many of the most persistent bugs that have plagued HLL for years. I haven’t been optimistic about a shooter in a long time, and they have really restored my confidence.
@@redwolfgamevideo that's great to hear, a big change over the last 6 months for sure
But Crusader 1 was a light tank... Medium would be Cromwell, Sherman Firefly. Heavy - Matilda or Churchill
@majordannan2828 oh dear, I'm pretty sure they called it a medium tank... Surely they wouldn't get something like that wrong....oh wait!
Some kind of quick match or TDM Variant would be nice.
I'd really like map specific load outs and equipment. I'd also like them to stop trying to cram every square gameplay peg into the round balance hole. It's a historic orientated game. I'd rather each faction had it's flavour rather than all just being reskins of the same balanced variety. I think artillery gets a bad rep like it's the root of all problems when really it relies on team co-ordination to really shine, and I don't think that should be changed. Hopefully they can come up with a compromise that maintains that supportive chemistry whilst working out how to make the recon/arty loop more rewarding.
@ryanclough8967 Some of the fiercest debates I've seen relate to realism vs gameplay balance, it's an interesting subject! Personally I'd rather it was accurate and if it's a bit unbalanced...oh well that's war. But I appreciate others would have a different view on that.
I change my mind on Arty. I think it depends on how much I've been blown up in a particular match(!) I like the idea of it, and as you say the cooperation behind it, but it's that loop they need to address, it's boring for both arty and recon but somehow if they're not doing it they're not doing their jobs...!
@@twiglets2 It sounds a bit patronizing but I try to tell people if they're getting railed by artillery to not go where the artillery is, it's the point of artillery, the enemy can't go there either. If the artillery consistently tracks you, then you're probably facing good SL's that are communicating your movements to their artillery, and I don't think that should be something that gets punished with a nerf bat. It also plays in with decision making and priorities on a tactical level, if the recon makes the decision to shut down the artillery or leave them to it.
Changing that runs the risk of trimming too many tactical decisions and options from the game in my opinion. Do you go garrison hunting? Node hunting? Shut down the artillery?
I would remove one artillery gun, three is overkill, make a dedicated artillery squad on each team, put the guns in slightly fortified positions, but make them destructible and require an engineer and supplies to come back and repair them, give the recon squad a tool that destroys the artillery guns. You can knock them out for a longer period, but it's more challenging to do so and more of a battle rather than just sitting at a distance shooting them until one of you get bored.
At least they are trying and keeping us involved..
@preacher009 absolutely, their communication is spot on and they're letting the community vote on future content, it's awesome. I hope we see real improvements soon!
The problem, or benefit, of night naps merely pertains to which map. Some maps are pretty obvious that the night theme has more beenfits (open field maps, PHL, Remagen (bridge/airhead), Kursk, but Hill 400 and others, its not a bonus, however I still enjoy night versions of them, makes you run around less and be more careful. Overall, its worth it for players to have MORE in a game, rather nothing at all. Especially Kursk and Ramagen LOL. Daytime Remagen is probably the EASIEST map to control, or lose, and vey boring, if you have it captured and just watch a bridge. Too easy!
Also not sure what bugs were really fixed... the grenade bug was not fixed on the German side. ALL the time it would be in action, then randomly throws. or it would re-load the motion. Very annoying.
@coltoncyr2283 Yes I like your thinking, it's very map dependent. The dusk version of maps is an interesting idea, I can't see how it will be that different to the day time but perhaps it's enough to just look different.
That's a shame about the grenade bug as they thought they fixed it. Hopefully it's happening less at least!
I love the night naps
@dustindiebold9216 Do you think they could make improvements though? For example more options to create light?
5:29 As a long time squad player, trust me. You do *not* want the mechanics Squad just introduced.
@Th3Bishop3 Interested to hear from a squad player. Mind me asking what the issues with the update are?
@@twiglets2 You don't feel like a solider in the update. You feel like a 5 year old disabled conscript that's been handled a rifle. Usually takes 3-4 seconds to actually steady a rifle from sprinting, and it gets much worse the less sprint you have. And you only run about 20m before running out of stamina.
The weapon sway in your hands as well is horrible, it feels like the weapon is loosely floating in your hands instead of you having proper control over it. Obviously experienced players still are better than noobs but regardless the gunplay is painful.
@@twiglets2 Also, the suppression completely blurs your screen and makes it very hard to see stuff, suppression also makes your rifle handling *even* worse.
I've had friends quit the game both just quitting matches and quitting the game altogether from the update. Both from hating the update and them getting straight up nausea and headaches, that's also been a reportedly fairly spread problem.
Squad's community has kinda been on a downward spiral in general good players for a while, and it's also gotten more toxic over the years. Starting to see alot of it with anti ICO (Infantry Combat Overhaul, the update) vs Pro ICO players going at each other big time.
@@Th3Bishop3 that's a shame to hear, I always use squad as an example of a milsim type game that's successful (looking at the player numbers) I hope they make improvements!
Which game or games are you and your friends moving to? Out of interest
@@twiglets2 If you'll check again numbers are starting to fall off for squad after the update hype died down. As for games switching to, Rn it's in the air. Some of us are shifting somewhat back to Project Reality, the mod squad was built off of. Playing more HLL, Battlebit, BF4 & Insurgency Sandstorm as well. Problem is nothing on the market fills the role of what Squad is. We don't have high hopes for the dev's of Squad. Ask any longtime squad player and I will bet money they have no trust in the dev's.
Honestly, I’d like to see tank swarming become a thing. It would require people to co-op with tanks to keep them safe. As well as be a cure for the AT role being occupied by someone who is not doing the role correctly. And the lack of enough rockets.
@justinstalker689 Now that sounds awesome!
That is a smile lll it’s a different rifle I think from the lee enfield cause it was used in ww1
@yrleeculla5570 I may be getting confused between smle / smile here but I thought the smle was the lee Enfield MK3?
On a slightly different note I was reading today that the lee Enfield is still in service some place in the world which is a bit bonkers
More optomistic than in the past with fixing of a few bugs so far since Team 17 took over, but VOIP bug still annoys the $hit out of me-especially for a game that purports to be all about teamwork. And the arty vs recon gameplay loop is still broken, where no one gets any enjoyment out of that. Fix those 2 things plus add a genuine tutorial, I'd call that a win. Although I'd be happier yet to see work on the prone mechanic so my aim isn't limited vertically, plus the bipod mounting problems. However the recent sacking ~50 QA & PR staff is concerning.
@steyreye Yeah surely VoIP issues should be at the top of their list. They've mentioned it a few times recently but given how bad it is I would guess it will still take time to sort out unfortunately.
I wanna like this game. But it's just a death simulator for me. I can be the only person in a random field, artillery hits me in the head. Hide behind a bush for 5 minutes ,dies immediately when I move. It's more aggravating than fun at this point.
@ButteredSausage73 I 100% experience this myself on a regular basis, it's such a pain in the ass!
The only solution I've found is to work with a squad that communicates and works together. At least that way when you die it's as a squad and you can spawn back in quite easily. Problem is I also find less and less players are willing to communicate!
I think the night maps are just a way to let the engine and the rendering catch its breath
@russelmuldowney8736 haha I think you might be right. Rendering issues? Just make it so dark the players can't see anything, problem solved!
I'm personally not a fan of night maps, 1 now and then is ok but I'm really not a fan. I'd prefer a new map all together. I'd really love a smaller map to mix things up a bit. With closer capture points and a quicker game. Like inside a huge sub pen complex.... or the flak towers...... or train station.... bunker complex.... I dunno lol just something different. I started playing early 2023 and i have definetly noticed a drop off in players, i think some new content will be helpful in getting people back, cool video ❤
@crazysithslave Agreed a smaller map would mix things up a bit, the night maps seem to be a quick and easy bit of content to release. They did mention a smaller game mode on smaller sections of existing maps, again an easy thing to do as it's just current maps but something like that where it's a more intense firefight would be cool!
I am personally waiting for year appropriate weapons. I want a little less STG and G43 and more bolt-action action
Also wish they would take some hints from rising storm 2 for the gunplay. The lean on option, the better one hit chance especially with boltactions, the sway from the hip and especially giving you the ability to range adjusting your firearm
@@sweetnerevar7030 it would be awesome to see those changes. Let's hope they implement some of them, if not all!
We have the uniform but not their covered helmet 😢 only the screaming eagles one which is far different
@skyxvex366 Yes very strange. They have addressed this by saying the original helmet they showed was not the final one.... not good!
I seriously dont understand why they had to create another Fallschirmjäger uniform. we already have one. although the helmet was a nice addition
@megakillowning With so many other options it's an interesting choice. Maybe they thought the name would sell?
Honestly I hope the scrap night maps because I refuse to believe 90% of players don't just pop the brightness to 200% to actually see
@randomlygeneratedname I haven't tried it myself but I've heard it's very easy to do which is disappointing they haven't thought of that!
@@twiglets2 yeah if you put your in-game brightness to 200% it becomes a day map and with anything particularly useful to find people like decent muzzle flash it's very hard to want to actually bother with the darkness, I'm hoping the dusk maps will be a decent middle ground
I’m honestly not a huge fan of the night maps, it feels pretty different and I like having them but I honestly don’t prefer them or anything and that’s fine just like they don’t do much for me. I think it’s just the rifles and stuff feel not very important on the night maps, things become a lot more close quarters it feels like.
@jacobolson6145 is there anything they could do that would make the night maps more interesting for you?
Quick comment hate the night maps. Great for sneaky gamers but makes this game crawl along that’s why most armies didn’t do night attacks.
@Schooter117 Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Norwegians beat the Falschirmjäger in the mountains over Norway. But then the allies had to withdraw...
@kebman Interesting, I'll have to read up on that!
Yes I LOVE LOVE LOVE the NIGHT maps
@generalmeyer315 Awesome! What is it you like about them??
at least 3 DLC were or are free on steam as of yesterday
@Kushman018 yup, gotta take the small wins where we can!
I’m not as pessimistic as you are. As an armor enjoyer, sure there are some things in need of change, on the whole it is in a good place. I would MUCH prefer new content, especially an Italian Faction, mix up the axis gameplay.
@landonwright7580 I'm with you on the Italian faction, I think that would be far more interesting than the winter war and polish forces they previously suggested but each to their own.
Night maps aren’t that bad but it’s the fog that makes them unplayable. If I can’t see past 10m in front of me, I’m out
@XxBillyGoatNinjaxX I find it a challenge to see enemies during the day, let alone at night. It'd be pretty cool if it changed from day to dusk to night in one match, especially if it's a stalemate during the day. The darkness might get things moving.
I want them to address the MG bipod fiasco.....Once a bi pod has been deployed...it stays that way until you redeploy it...I should not have to go through the ridiculous animation of opening the bipod everytime I want to shoot. It is not realistic. And not being able to place an MG down on objects like blown out tanks and vehicles is a pain. Not to mention some windows and fences..Kharkov and Russian maps looking right at you.
Also the bazookas are pretty much useless against any vehicle.....eve trucks require multiple rounds to destroy.. Also look at the bullet penetration.
@bw33511 Absolutely, the bipod placement is so annoying and other games seem to get it right! They've mentioned some improvements are on the way but I suspect they'll need to change the maps so the bipod can interact with the terrain / objects
@@twiglets2 I hope so...I really love this game, I would say the MG bipod and the loadout bug are my two biggest gripes about it. Im looking forward to playing this title for quiet a while.
you sir, have a great voice
@katz7550 My thanks!
Wish there was a test server for console I would join it
@DylanJohnson-cr9pw gotta admit I didn't realise there wasn't one!
300 hours and I only had two times when game insignificantly bugged. Community is great and experience is amazing. It's the only fps I play now. Oh, once in 6 months I also play DayZ
@dimitriyvasilyev6408 I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the game! Do you play with friends on alone with strangers?
I’ve experienced a bug on ps5 where equipped purchased cosmetics reset randomly and frequently. Makes me not want to buy any if the games going to remove them for me.
@@twiglets2strangers. My friends play boring games like CS, GTA, FIFA, and far cry. Fortunately servers are always full. I wish post scriptum had more players. Or HLL can adopt some features like bayonet, manual reloading, stamina etc. Also Squad'like ticket system would add more value to medic. You know, in real life you cannot have an infinite amount of soldiers.
@@teutoncross3817 never heard of it before but I play on PC. I gave my Xbox one to a friend, because some games are not available there. Also I found out that the amount of glitches and bugs depends on what hardware you have. I replaced my potato PC with a good one and now every game runs almost flawless
@@teutoncross3817 you would think they would at least get the paid for cosmetics right, damn!
not all the guns sound bad, guns like the mg42, mg34, stg, thompson, mp40 and browning 1919 sound pretty much exactly what they sound like irl
@agidotexe7167 Yeah I guess it's not every single gun, the browning sounds pretty awesome! I'd argue that the STG sounds a bit wet, but it's not like I've fired one on real life!
@@twiglets2 guns in real life dont have nearly as much of a boom and omf as you might think alot of gamesthat are known for having ”great gun sounds” battlefield and post scriptum for example, add alot of reverb and echo to the sound to make it more satesfying. Just compare the sounds of post scriptum and squad.
@@agidotexe7167 I did notice the sound of guns etc on post Scriptum seemed superior to me. But I guess realistic doesn't always = satisfying. Are there any particular weapons in HLL that could do with revamped sound?
@@twiglets2 100%, the ones that id say need it most is the m1 carbine, all the pistols and the ppsh
ummm, the grenade bug still is very present and still a pain in the ass
@tunaeater894 they seem to think they've resolved it, that's a shame!
the german mg animation shows 50 rounds drum mag when in actuallity you fire 250 belt rounds. They still haven't fixxed that and i wonder how many people know that. The game lacks substence, i cant explain it good enough since english isnt my main language but i just say im not particually impressed with the new stuff that are coming.
@stratos8 I didn't know that! Thank you for sharing
I knew something was off. Just fired 15,000 rounds with MG42 last game and I was like "Wait a minute... There's no way you can fit that much ammo in that little mag"
@@hampdog5716 this could have been a classs difference. There could be 2 MG42, MG32 classes, one with 3 belts and one with 7 drum mags. On for substained fire and one fore mobility and short bursts. But no classic.
Night maps are not dark enough. Should be dark and flare shoot up in the sky and light up the map, thay would be cool.
@stevecaponio4484 That would be cool! I think starting in the morning and going through a day night cycle in one match would be cool
@twiglets2 that would be nice too. But frist they really need to fix the mgs. Mounting your bipod sucks so bad, And we need more suppression and mg needs to have Is more suppression than other guns.
@@stevecaponio4484 yup! I like to play mg and you get headshotted far too easy so you can't do your job!
Just fix the climbing movement and all the invisible fockin walls
wish i could play AT ALL lol every server lags . even the loading screens are painfully slow .
@440Nichole7.2 Do you have this problem with other games or is it just Hell Let Loose?
@@twiglets2 just hell let loose
I voted for the Matilda as well
@psychzach1588 A solid choice sir, perhaps we will see her in the future!
I find it appalling they gave the British the crappy 5 round version that was even historically accurate to be fielded in such numbers at the time. I mean, the British faction is lacking serious firepower, yet for some reason they need to be artificially handicapped with that crappy rifle while the US get's the semi auto M1 AND the browning machine gun standard? Just seems stupid that even got through a meeting. I'm British and I never play British because of how crap our faction is.
@CM-vv8cv let's hope for some common sense changes! I'm all for the occasional historic inaccuracy if there is a genuine gameplay reason for it. But they've gone much further than that for no reason. I hope to see a Matilda some day too!
I want to be able to fix bayonets
@longwhiteline3308 hell yes!
The night needs less fog just because it's night doesn't mean there needs to be fog
@brysonwalker3101 you're not the first person to mention the fog, they definitely need to address that.
If anything they need to give us more lighting options to be able to see. Interesting suggestions have been flood lights and fires!
Whens the free wkd😁
@jackl24 I don't believe they've confirmed yet but I think it's in November so they should confirm soon!
@@twiglets2 cool thanks mate will keep a look out
can we actualy get some official servers and not servers hosted by exodus & band of brothers i cant even play because they are full than i join chinese servers were my ping is 500
@cruixofficial4774 if they didn't have so many basic bugs to squish this is exactly the sort of thing they should be addressing!!
@@twiglets2 please mention it in a future video comunity needs to hear about that
Campaign is out,I guess.
@maryanneweldon8040 oh no they said a Pacific, Normandy, eastern front and North African campaign next year...! If only that were the case!
Console players need a server browser
@coolduck4284 100% I don't know how you put up with it!
Please just give us server browser on console
@jackgilham8620 my fingers are crossed for you guys!
I don’t think anyone wants a new British medium tank, we want a new goddam heavy. The firefly sucks, it’s visually boring as it’s now the 4th Sherman in the game, and it’s unfun to use in every way. Give us a Churchill for Christ sake! So many variations that could add really cool immersive mechanics like a crocodile allowing the driver to have a flame thrower
@plentifulpineapplez Can you imagine how cool a croc Churchill would look?! My only reservation is whether they would do it right, you know, without crashing the game
HLL is such an abomination, I played 440 hours in about a year close to launch, and after U8's meta 200m garrison change, within 40 hours I uninstalled and I've been away from the game for nearly 3 years... It was a great game with high hopes in the beginning, now with each passing dev brief update, the game continues to crumble further and further away from what it could be. It's quite laughable that team17 has destroyed this game single handedly by trying to prioritize monetization, while doing very little to combat the stale meta of experienced players who inevitably die off because of the chores one must do in order to make the game playable.
I'm glad it gave me the chance to play Squad and PS, because PS beats out HLL in about every way and Squad is truly developing their game rather than adding DLC, night maps, bridge maps, or things that do very little to occupy existing players. By all measures HLL has been an utter disappointment and I would love to see them "fix" their game after more than 4 years, but it's pretty evident that they're doing more to drive away players than they care to keep players on their game. 99% of players on steam achievements only reach level 50... That's generally before being SL or commanders try our those roles, which no one wants to play either.
I loved SL with 150m garrisons, can be placed anywhere on the map, when support had 100 supplies (good for 2 garrisons), it was like an adventure game with constantly changing spawn points and resulting gameplay. I miss that version of HLL with a passion, but I don't miss what it's become.
@archangel4jesuschrist I didn't play that long ago but that sounds like a much better system for garrison placement!
I'm curious which changes you think would need to be made to get the game back on track? I assume garrison placement changes, but what else would you prioritise?
@@twiglets2Yes it was a superior design, also 150 meter garrisons was a lot better for examples like you say with garrison placement and proximity limitations. They added the support role with 50 supplies every 5 minutes or 2.5 minus with nodes around that time too, which meant that you need 2 support guys or waiting 5 minutes for a garrison, that used to be accomplished with just 1 support role and an SL/CMD.
Personally I would have gone with ~125 meter garrisons, add 100m garrison proxy limitation nearby enemy attack points (ninja garrisons were why they removed enemy garrisons but resulted in garrisons only in friendly territory (which was awful) and then they decided upon enemy garrisons with double the cost in red zone in U9 (which is still bad). Remove support role and give everyone 15 supplies or so that they could drop them or give to SL/CMD to build a garrison instead of requiring 2 people to do all the work. I like the idea of 2 outposts.
They also reduced capture time along with run speed in the same update and being a defending squad leader no longer was this infinite loop of search and destroy and build your own garrison. It was 50 meters + slower run speed = no chance to defend if you lost your garrison, which you used to have a chance of doing.
Also somehow I would reduce the responsibility of SL/CMD somehow with players being able to mark perhaps, even having supplies drops by AI instead of a bad CMD would be a huge step. SL being a garrison/outpost builder was my favorite aspect of the game, until it became an absolute chore with all the changes I mentioned. Cheers.
Night maps suck. But at least it's something slightly different. The game is getting rather boring at the moment as its been about the same for a few years with the Soviet maps still being a stuttering mess etc...
@TheChocDonk2000 it's definitely at risk of getting stale. I'm all for more factions etc soon but I think the actual gameplay could use some love. The way you capture points, spawn points, the way rounds are structured, could use an update imo
More free skin (because 4€ for one helmet that's not acceptable)
Fix the bipod please
The audio of ennemi foot step (look like the allies make more sound than the ennemy)
*GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SPAWN SYSTEM* it was working great before why the F changing it ?! Now you spawn on the head of player, get stuck, get push...
Give more exp for waiting for a medic and more exp for reviving people because for the moment it's really useless (lvl 8 medic here)
@Lucas-xj3fh I hope they improve the game for medics soon. Which spawn system did you like?
@@twiglets2 Before one update i don't know the one who f everything but now it's really strange (probably the last one).
@@Lucas-xj3fh yep, sounds about right to me!
Biggest problem with this game is the player base. For whatever reason it attracts run n gun COD/battlefield players who don't want to play their role or communicate with the squad. Then cry saying it's a walking simulator.
@gregschumacher I think they tried to appeal to the broader cod / bf crowd, probably for the money, and now we find the player base diluted where most don't want to talk. It's such a shame but who knows, maybe they can reverse it if they go back to their roots. Or the previous developers roots!
@@twiglets2 i'm tired of playing squad lead. I'm maxed out level as squad lead. I would like to try other roles and level them up. Almost impossible because either no one else will play squad lead or support so I step up to be a team player. Or if I do play what I want to try out it's in a dysfunctional squad with no squad lead and i'm forced to walk far... Only other option is to try and squad hop but they fill up so quickly so I could waste 5-10 mins just trying to get in a legit squad. No ty, its fucking exhausting.
@@g..s..s.. you basically described my experience in a nutshell there. I've pondered for a while what solutions might be. Assuming we can't just change the people playing the game.
Personally I think another class should also be able to build garrisons. The matches with noone building a garrison are the worst
@@twiglets2 Agreed. Can't change people. Yea garrisons win games, not a bad suggestion, it's a shame players can't stick to their roles. Precious K/D ratio all that matters. Why fall back and play the objective?
I "research" games I may be interested in by watching others play them on twitch and read gaming forums. I ask questions if I have them. If I decide a game is something I'm interested in, I know exactly what to expect which is precisely the reason I'm buying the game.
I'll never buy a game and then proceed to lobby for it to be changed into a completely different genre/game. If you want an arcade shooter, buy an arcade shooter?
TLDR;
I think a lot of people are impatient, ignorant and possibly stupid as well.
Bugfixes? Let me laugh. They havent been able to fix weapon kit bug for years now and are introducing more. Their bugfix team is a joke.
@Ivo- apparently there is a fix on the way for the weapon kit bug, we shall see if it actually works!
I allways skipp night maps
@adriaanheeneman6668 do you find them boring?
@@twiglets2 im a fulltime working father of 4. So the moments i can game its HLL. And if i play i want to play levels i enjoy the moste. Playing in the dark i dont like because i cant see sh+t🫣
Night maps are just boring. I'm tired of playing the same maps all the time
@mike_oxlong4387 Do you think there's anything they could do to improve the night map experience for you?
I don't mind them but this game needs some new maps, of some of the old ones updated
Load out bug, grenade bug, and viop bug are NOT fixed. As well as various other bugs. I think the game is declining because the "older" players are fed up with the bugs and the new players are complete clowns. Chat rage. Team killing children. They have zero clue or ability to play as a team so the quality of the matches are garbage. The game needs a way to balance teams to mix vets with noobs.
@sublime929 They have said the grenade bug is fixed and the loadout bug should be fixed soon. But of course they may still be broken even if they say they are fixed!
I've noticed a decline in squad communication on the mic, used to be most squads would talk!
@@twiglets2 the grenade bug for me is that if I select a grenade then decide not to throw it, I can't switch off of it. I have to throw it to get back to my rifle. Hasn't happened much but once is enough. That along with a hesitation to throw the grenade and when my character does throw it it's sloppy and rapid.
@@sublime929 ahh for me it's slightly different in that when you throw it it doesn't actually throw. Most of the time I end up dying after, but that's probably more my skill level than a bug
@@twiglets2 😂 well ya I have that one too. Won't throw won't throw then all of a sudden it will throw it awkwardly. I usually die every time I look at the map, reload or select a grenade.
@@sublime929 throwing a grenade unexpectedly and getting a bunch of tk is not fun, even after apologising the amount of punishments for tk is unreal!
Bro you need to pay more attention. The end game stat screen shows how theyve pushed towards making medics viable. Your awarded point for everytime your revived. Not sure what else they can do to make medics more viable then that? And that Free Play weekend is sorely needed cause the player count is dropping and we need fresh blood or the game dies. Instead of encouraging people to avoid we need as many Vets on as we can get to show the new guys the ropes and help them flatten the massive learning curve so the new guys have fun and keep coming back. Honestly I'm wondering if you even like this game considering how youve talked about it.
Idgaf this game is badass love this game I got 20 hours clocked in and I’m hooked off the bat I mostly run the officer role im already a level 5 almost 6
@geovannicastillo8183 awesome! Are there any areas of the game you think should be improved next?
@@twiglets2 I’m kinda still fresh to the game to give my 2 cents I love this game even with the small faults it’s got
dont want no fuckin outfits i want new maps/gear thats what we need
@thisguy9959 there's plenty of that on the way too!
@@twiglets2 man i hope so cuz as much as the bugs bother me ive come to live with em but content that was supposed to come to the game already an got scrapped for improvements was kinda annoying
@@whitesonly6996 yeah I hear you, they have a delicate balance to strike. I think no matter what they need a big content update on early 2024 at the latest to keep players like yourself engaged. They do have a fair bit of content coming soon but it's basically the small stuff I mentioned in the video, but I'm guessing you want more than that
post. scriptum have that, for about years ago. Welcome to 2019
@tihomirreljkovic7664 RIP Post Scriptum, I hope Hell Let Loose sounds as good as PS soon
I love the night maps
@nolanriley9865 I find it a shame that players can simply increase the brightness to give themselves an unfair advantage. But putting that aside the night maps are atmospheric as hell! Just wish there were more options for creating light really