Unveiled! 2023 Hell Let Loose Road Map - What's in Store?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Hell Let Loose has a new road map, but how does it compare to what we've been asking for all this time?
00:00 Intro
00:38 The Road Map
01:46 New content (yay!)
04:36 New game modes (oooo!)
06:28 The most interesting part by far...(ahhh!)
08:28 Multiple tutorials!
09:31 What they haven't included....(no tanks...!) - Hry
I know some of you will think the non-verbal communication tools will be a negative, reducing the amount of real comms that make HLL so great. But I'm excited to see what they do with this. It has the potential to bridge the gap between those that enjoy using comms and those that (for whatever reason) don't / won't. It all comes down to implementation....what do you think about this update? Does it fill you with hope, or with dread?!
People not using a mic will not use these new mechanics since they could have already used the regular text chat. And for some reason no one ever does. I think the tutorial should lay a heavy emphasis on how important talking is for this game. Hell Let Loose is absolutely boring with no one talking. And just incredible when a squad communicates. I dare to say it's the single most important thing about this game. The entire game is structured around people using voice comes and a team that realizes this will always win. These new mechanics are a terrible sign of what the future may hold for us. Just shows how little the devs understand about this game.
I do love the big long games, but sometimes I do just have about 30-45 mins to kill and would love to get a fix of HLL in. So I am interested in the modes, just hope the player base doesn't fracture too much that you start getting half-full servers all over the place.
@david7659 I'm the same as you, 90 minutes can be hard to find sometimes so 30-45 is tempting. But you've hit the nail on the head with fracturing of the player base. I personally feel other games include too many game modes and then they wonder why they struggle to fill the big servers (Battlefield V). I guess with much of this we will have to see how they execute these changes.
If their execution is as good as their marketing it'll be great, but as with most developers, they seem to be better at making marketing videos such as this than they are at developing games (ooooo harsh!)
to be honest, I was kind of underwhelmed when I saw the roadmap I thought it was just another troll but then I actually saw people commenting on it. It was just so confusing I like the t17 roadmap style more than this
@diegohoffman The format is odd right? Were there any particular parts of it that you liked or disliked? The winter war is cool for sure, but I can't help but notice that they've included it in December, which almost certainly will get pushed back...!
Aslong as they keep the core game hardcore tactical shooter experience alive and don't cater to the cod / bf fan boys as there's nothing like this on console so I hope it stays the same if not I'm out .
I just hope they make a server browser for console with quality of life improvement in April...
@abdullah20f76 Me too my friend, you guys deserve it for sure. It must be so frustrating not being able to choose a server that's full and with new maps..!
Considering their ambitious roadmap, they're obviously pushing out what Black Matter was almost done with, then working on new content that's easily marketable (factions, shorter game modes, dlc) over polishing what's there (artillery & nodes) as I bet they think the current gameplay is fine as is.
Don't mind the smaller game mode if we can use it for seeding servers before they go upto the full 100 players. But only time will tell.
@theblackaxe1981 Agreed. They seem to have made some easy choices which is understandable and are marketing it to be a huge batch of new content. Personally I feel they should have focused more on the bug fixes but of course new content is always welcome.
Am I being unfair by suggesting that most of what they've included could go either way, not a guaranteed improvement?
@Twiglets2 definitely either way, they're a fresh team that's gotta put their mark on an IP they've invested into. They'll learn the ropes with the Poland and Finnish mini-factions and game modes, then build from there (with community feedback)
As an aside, the proposed mini factions did fight throughout the war, so we could see them as alternative forces/cosmetics for the existing axis & allies in future.
@@theblackaxe1981 Interesting! Let's keep our fingers crossed and our eyes peeled.
I know they haven’t went into detail on big fixes but to be fair it was the 1st thing they said they were going to do before any new content, we were supposed to get the British months ago so hopefully they spent a lot of time ironing out the bugs, I am super excited for new shorter game modes, it’s only going to increase the player base a lot of people don’t have the time for a single large game, I excited for the clan system , not sure of details but making it easier to join a group of guys you know will communicate will be great, also the non verbal communication should help a a little with people who don’t have a mic, like it or not there will always be a lot of people who don’t want to talk and if they wanna increase players for the game something needs to be done.
At this point I've given up on ever seeing these developers making a decent ww2 game, I'm just gonna do it myself.
@notsure6496 It's a new team with a fresh pair of eyes, but let's be honest, that could go either way!
Good Questions. No soft ball ones but asked in honesty. Thanks. BTW some of the devs looked a bit nervous. Right? All though out 19th century US military, there have been non verbal hand signals.
@Cyberfender1 thank you! Time will tell I guess, the latest update has had mixed reactions but more positive than I had thought. Let's hope they make some sensible decisions!
@@twiglets2 Wanted to correct myself, I ment the 20th century.
While Finnish & Polish forces are really cool to see as it's rare in WW2 videogames, I don't get why they would be added before factions like Italy or Japan.
I am happy with the smaller game modes and new comms system, but I really home soon there is a new arty system overhaul or something, like arty vics to break up the boring standing still and too change the recon bore of spawn camping
Also the tutorial will hopefully be a great addition, when I started playing at the start of the year I had played squad and stuff briefly and this was my first dive into this style of game, and it was quite hard trying too find people that would give their time too help out with mechanics
@@polonskey5447 Absolutely, I'm confused why the new tutorial is so late in the road map, perhaps they need to spend a long time on it but we could really do with a new tutorial now! Perhaps they're waiting for the new game modes first.
I couldn't agree more about the arty system. Some players love it but I believe many would like to see change. I'd like them gone altogether but that's probably an extreme view. Change is needed!
@@twiglets2 by the looks it’ll be a basic tutorial too start with a major pointers, node system and classes, then the December one will hopefully be a full overhaul to something like squads they intorduced with the boot camp mission, it would be great too have a little something just too ease nee players in a little and even us vets may learn something new
@@polonskey5447 A decent tutorial would make a big difference to the game and new player retention, let's hope they get it right!
What is also nice to increase the playerbase is that HLL is actually planned to be playable on Linux
For the 2 of you
Oh cool, we get british stuff! Which asset are they using from the unreal store? Link, anyone?
Were you able to jump in for the men of war 2 tech test?? If so will we get to see your thoughts?
@daddydecaf6971 I did! And I'm creating a video on it which is essentially a triple threat wrestling matching between Men of War Assault Squad 2 (with Robz Realism), Men of War 2, and Gates of Hell Ostfront.
All in all I like some of the smaller changes they've made, I think there are a surprising number of interesting tweaks to the RTS gameplay that are easy to dismiss or not notice. The 6v6 game mode is interesting too, but I'm biased as I'm not a fan of 1v1 multiplayer, it's far too stressful so a diluted 6v6 is more enjoyable. The graphics are also a decent upgrade but underwhelming considering this is meant to be a new game! All in all, a bit disappointing but I'm hopeful for the future as it was just one game mode after all.
Did you get a chance to play it?
Are they going to fix the German grenades?
I really need them to fix the connection error on consoles because I know the game is great so I just want to play it
@joncardo1 Let's hope it's on their to do list!
People not using mics in HLL is an issue but that comes with how casual HLL is since it has no spawn ticket system there is no negative consequence for the player that forces them to play better and communicate like in squad
I don't use a mic and I play better than 3/4 of the team which means talking won't make you a better player and you just drown out the game
Surely, there are 2 tutorial dates as there will be a new game mode in December, which will require its own tutorial. Not gonna lie, I have a feeling T17 are going to implement these changes to entice the more casual gamer, and therefore lose what makes HLL so unique. RIP HLL 😢
@hernethehunted7130 That makes sense, new game modes with their own or updated tutorial. I think it's a shame they aren't implementing the initial tutorial sooner as it's so desperately needed.
The game is definitely taking a step towards the Battlefield / CoD style with the bite-sized game modes and maps, there's a real risk of splitting up the player base here!
lol Team 17's take over is gonna be a disaster 😁
why?
@dye5915 There are so many points that we can be negative about but I'm determined to stay positive until they give us a real reason to be negative! Won't lie, it could easily be a disaster but who knows, they might do something right!
Am I the only one that actually feels somewhat disappointed with this roadmap?
@zdevanroguzarov1979 I don't think you are no. I've seen mixed opinions so far but plenty are simply disappointed, mostly as they seem to concentrate on new content rather than bug fixes. Is that what you are disappointed in?
The Polish and Finnish factions are a nice surprise, but I can't see them being 2023, I believe they will be pushed back to 2024.
@@twiglets2 My opinion on the Polish and Finish is meh... I don't have anything against them but how much cooler would it be if they added the Pacific Front or North Africa or just the Italians for that matter? (maybe it's a pipe dream from me) As for the bug fixing, there's no argument in that matter on how much work needs to be put in.
Also not a great fan of the new game modes. I mean sure add the new game modes they sound interesting, but don't make the maps smaller or decrease the game timer. I understand that there are people that can't play the game for 90 minutes but another workaround for this could be before you leave the server the game rewards you with the xp for the time you've played. I think the core stuff that makes Hell Let Loose should stay the same, like the humungous maps, the game time, no kill cams. It's why we fell in love with the game in the first place, unlike the Call of Duty's and the Battlefield's trying to please everybody, and that's where Hell Let Loose is headed in trying to please everybody. If you don't like it then don't play it.
Also, the Premium DLC bit has me concerned. At some point, they are going to run out of stuff to put out and we might reach a point where you see a German with a clown uniform sniping you with a pimped-out MP40 300 meters away with a holographic reticle attached to it, with extended mag and enchantment that increases fire rate and decreases recoil.
@@zdevanroguzarov1979 Hmmm good point about the DLC. At the moment they seem to be including free DLC so they can "get away" with also including paid for DLC. Seems like they are dipping a toe in the water and at some point it will all be paid for DLC that will have a greater and greater impact on the game.
I'm trying to stay positive but there are so many things that could go wrong with all this!
All a complete waste of money!!!!!!! Listen to the community. We DONT want DLC!!! We want the CURRENT BUGS FIXED!!!!! NO new content until the game is fixed!! Hit registration, artifact clipping, the rife hacking!!! The completely shoddy job of optimization!!! Loadout bug, the tripod bug, not getting points for kills. The list goes on!!! Fix the current game and DO NOT MAKE THIS XPLATFORM!!!!!!!. WE DO NOT WANT NEW CONTENT THIS IS NOT COD!!! FIX CURRENT ISSUES AND MAKE IT PLAYABLE!!!!
@gruffytickles8076 You've just reminded me I didn't talk about the new platforms! Steamdeck is cool I guess but seems a bit low priority to me... as you say, fix the issues we have! I'm disappointed there wasn't more detail other than "bug fixes" "quality of life improvements". They did provide some detail on their Steam updates but really aren't committing to anything while committing to a whole bunch of new content which is nice but by no means required. Plus of course, it'll likely make problems worse...are we being too negative, or have we just learned lessons from the past?!
@@twiglets2 I'm picturing fortnite, aimbot console players and rolls upon rolls of pointless DLC content. Goodbye HLL it was good knowing you. It's like a car with only 1 gear, can put new tyres on it can paint it can put big sounds in it but the car is still shit. I fear this is definitely the end for HLL. This is by far the most mature gaming community and its going to cater more to the fortnite and COD kiddies its so sad to see. Chimera member here
@@gruffytickles8076 I hope they don't go down that road but looking at the roadmap you can already see how it can easily happen. I'll try to remain positive and give them the benefit of the doubt for now, but suspect in a year's time much / all of what you say will come to pass!
@@gruffytickles8076 I really hope ur wrong but I think ur right such a shame playing HLL on console first game we have whats hardcore then they mess it up , hope I'm wrong tho
@@twiglets2 I almost forgot, don't forget the season pass/battle pass