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  • Emmanuel Acho, LeSean McCoy, Joy Taylor, and David Helman discuss Joseph Ossai’s costly penalty late in the 4th quarter of the AFC Championship Game. Joy weighs in on the penalty and explains Ossai deserves a bit of the blame but not all of it. The group then discuss how Joe Burrow and the Bengals offense underperformed in the 4th quarter.
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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  Před rokem +12

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    • @chriseddings2525
      @chriseddings2525 Před rokem

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    • @closalbert2017
      @closalbert2017 Před rokem +2

      This is becoming my favorite show lately don’t turn it just about brady, mahome, Josh or Joe it’s good the way it is

    • @aldohattonduran5227
      @aldohattonduran5227 Před rokem

      Why watch club Shay Shay? I have no desire to waste my time watching a 56 year old "man" who publicly embarrassed himself jumping on the court to sack lick lechina James during the grizzlies game.. dropping F-bombs a making threats? If blk sports stars act like that what can we expect of blk youth??

    • @silverback7348
      @silverback7348 Před rokem

      Ossai played out of his mind the last Quarter of that game. My heart sank watching him cry over that mistake in trying to make a play.
      The Bengals likely aren’t in a position to win without his level of play.
      I’d take him on my team.
      -a Ravens fan.

    • @ldgatgat459
      @ldgatgat459 Před rokem +1

      Not fair to blame 80% on 1 player

  • @86twin
    @86twin Před rokem +266

    A lot contributed to the loss. That late hit was just the final nail in the coffin.

    • @jamesfunderburk9495
      @jamesfunderburk9495 Před rokem +12

      And the biggest nail! Don’t forget that part!

    • @rickanduiza186
      @rickanduiza186 Před rokem +1

      @@jamesfunderburk9495 Freakin LOLOL!!

    • @hawaiianpizza9386
      @hawaiianpizza9386 Před rokem +6

      A frog with one leg contributed to the loss 🦿🐸🏈

    • @levelup3641
      @levelup3641 Před rokem +1

      Both teams were making late hits on one another from the start of the game. I believe the coaches set the mindset for bother
      teams. Both teams were playing with emotions not cognitive tactical, objective awareness.

    • @topnotchtajmahal7216
      @topnotchtajmahal7216 Před rokem +4

      @@jamesfunderburk9495 no your offensive line was letting chiefs Jones bend them over all game

  • @adriankendrick4281
    @adriankendrick4281 Před rokem +281

    Bengals had the ball twice in the last 5 minutes and did nothing with it. And then the big punt return to midfield. You knew it was over.

    • @david36498
      @david36498 Před rokem +17

      Refs made sure they didn't do nothing with it

    • @aidenparkhurst1191
      @aidenparkhurst1191 Před rokem +22

      @@david36498 Cry 😂

    • @tig3rBite
      @tig3rBite Před rokem +18

      @david paiva wtf you talking about? Its valid penalties, dont be salty.

    • @26michaeluk
      @26michaeluk Před rokem +14

      @@tig3rBite so was the uncalled block in the back on the punt return and the blatant hold on the Mahomes run. Or the roughing the passer on Burrow before the punt. I have no dog in this fight but it was blatantly obvious KC got the benefit of referees. Still shoulda made plays though.

    • @LKS-M9323
      @LKS-M9323 Před rokem +2

      I knew it was over when the Bengles beat Buffalo lmfao.

  • @Malicavarus
    @Malicavarus Před rokem +159

    Ossai played a great game. It's a darn shame that it will only be remembered for that last play. It was a costly mistake, but the Bengals had a shot to win the game at the end in no small part because of Joseph Ossai. I felt his pain.

    • @aldohattonduran5227
      @aldohattonduran5227 Před rokem

      He's a pro.. he let down the world 🌍 he needs to be traded if not... Burried 🪓

    • @Malicavarus
      @Malicavarus Před rokem +2

      @@aldohattonduran5227 Easy, tiger. It's just a game.

    • @Aneurism_
      @Aneurism_ Před rokem +3

      that’s exactly what i commented on his ig profile. he played a great game but had one dumbo play that’s all he’ll be remembered

    • @theinfernoburns
      @theinfernoburns Před rokem +6

      @@Aneurism_ that sounds like you're harassing him

    • @petep5207
      @petep5207 Před rokem +1

      rigged

  • @j_the_don5160
    @j_the_don5160 Před rokem +400

    The fact Burrow isn’t getting at least 50% of the blame is crazy. It was Burrowhead two days ago and we ain’t even gonna talk about the picks?

    • @postadaking634
      @postadaking634 Před rokem +40

      This is a HUGE POINT!!!! They should pin this Comment
      No one is talking about all the piCCs burrow threw

    • @mikel772
      @mikel772 Před rokem +12

      The 2nd pick was basically a punt anyway.

    • @j_the_don5160
      @j_the_don5160 Před rokem +37

      @@mikel772 doesn’t matter. It was still a pick. And he got less yards than Mahomes with his full receiving core meanwhile Mahomes only had Kelce at the end of the game and he was being doubled the entire time

    • @Kaneda0015
      @Kaneda0015 Před rokem +12

      Then you have to blame to OL that didn't protect him. :)

    • @Ray4rmDade305
      @Ray4rmDade305 Před rokem +2

      @@mikel772 faxxx but haters gon hate

  • @bronsonmejia1794
    @bronsonmejia1794 Před rokem +30

    That late hit ended the game but the offense lost the game.

    • @sleekelegancesuave
      @sleekelegancesuave Před rokem

      i dont blame anyone tbh yall gotta understand it was also cold as heck out there and the weather couldve also played a bad part in their performance. Playing in a cold setting like that can affect you naturally.

    • @Chiefs555
      @Chiefs555 Před 11 měsíci

      Joe Burrow threw two pics and held on to the ball to long. That's why they lost dude.

  • @robp.8669
    @robp.8669 Před rokem +345

    Joe Burrow gets all the credit when they win but none of the blame when they lose. Sure Ossai could get have let up and not gotten a dumb penalty but like Joy said Joe Burrow had a chance to put the game away with over 2 minutes left with 2 time outs and couldn’t get it done period.

    • @BenReillySpydr1962
      @BenReillySpydr1962 Před rokem +11

      No. It's equally silly. Reasonable people (not media talking heads) never give 100% of the praise nor blame on one person. Like mathematically you EVERYONE down to the refs, coaches, water boy etc. are responsible for wins/losses. People act like Joe and even Patt for that matter are 100% responsible for anything beyond their actions on the field. They don't play every position.

    • @robp.8669
      @robp.8669 Před rokem +34

      @@BenReillySpydr1962 I’m not giving % 100 blame to Joe or anybody else. football is a team sport. I just think it’s weird how Joe Burrows name didn’t come up when he had 2 turnovers. People like to blame the last guy who made a mistake for the reason why a team lost but there are many factors that led to the outcome.

    • @wysemanacc84
      @wysemanacc84 Před rokem +19

      @@robp.8669 Please do not elaborate further we understand your point. It is mostly JB fault he has the ball 80 percent of time and make decisions. He came up short with sacks and INCOMPLETIONS. He just got exposes and he kept throwing the ball in the dirt even causing grounding. The dude did not put his body on the line like PH did. One guy wants to win so bad the other wants to save his body.

    • @Semperityy
      @Semperityy Před rokem +5

      THANK YOU

    • @Semperityy
      @Semperityy Před rokem +5

      @@wysemanacc84 THANK YOU

  • @brandoncomer6492
    @brandoncomer6492 Před rokem +123

    Joy had the best take by far

    • @flex573
      @flex573 Před rokem +7

      shes the best on the show for sure

    • @frankmathews
      @frankmathews Před rokem

      I completely disagree with Joy

    • @carsonland6874
      @carsonland6874 Před rokem

      Yep. The whole package. I have such a crush on Joy

    • @tacohombre3648
      @tacohombre3648 Před rokem

      @@frankmathews could you explain please 👀

    • @leetraviusmckay2919
      @leetraviusmckay2919 Před rokem

      @@tacohombre3648you do realize she was on Joe Burrow along with Acho and Helman since week 7

  • @IDontFeelNun
    @IDontFeelNun Před rokem +347

    Thank you joy. Everyone was on the bengals offense tip since like week 7. Couldn’t even get a field goal when tied at 20. This team isn’t built to win because of the defense. It’s the offense that has to win these games. You don’t draft Higgins, burrow, mixon and chase to have to rely on the defense.

    • @az-yk4pb
      @az-yk4pb Před rokem +28

      Your name funny af 🤣🤣

    • @frankiegarcia1810
      @frankiegarcia1810 Před rokem +4

      Big facts

    • @DC4L1991
      @DC4L1991 Před rokem +2

      Thank you

    • @jaysohiphop1356
      @jaysohiphop1356 Před rokem +25

      At the end of the day having all those weapons means nothing if the O-line is compromised

    • @olympis35
      @olympis35 Před rokem +13

      @@jaysohiphop1356 straight jacket. Bengals lost that game in the trenches. They got mauled

  • @dmaniacsmith886
    @dmaniacsmith886 Před rokem +18

    Joy was the best analyst on the panel. Her point that Burrows had the ball with 2 timeouts and the 2-minute warning and getting no points. Burrows didn't come through.

    • @TripleG12398
      @TripleG12398 Před 10 měsíci

      At least Mahomes (according to stats) has the #1 pass protection in the league while Burrow had 3 backups at o-line.

  • @josepolanco9870
    @josepolanco9870 Před rokem +69

    Joy is right, burrow can’t score 3 points with 2 minutes left in the game !!!

  • @greatness3554
    @greatness3554 Před rokem +10

    This segment was hyped AF!

  • @zacharywilkinson2998
    @zacharywilkinson2998 Před rokem +71

    Ossai played his heart out that game, our offense was blew it big on that last drive all that talent we should have been able to move to ball to AT Least get a field goal, joy is spot on

    • @eamonkelley3811
      @eamonkelley3811 Před rokem +1

      Yup, RT #77 got bodied on that 3rd and 8 and it just felt like a wrap after Burrow went down.

    • @aldohattonduran5227
      @aldohattonduran5227 Před rokem +1

      Ozzia shows his true colors.. literally

    • @abrahamalvarez8321
      @abrahamalvarez8321 Před rokem

      Ossai act dumb period.

    • @andrewcurtis4568
      @andrewcurtis4568 Před rokem

      Ossai - big heart, pea brain. Doesn't cut it.

    • @marlafowler3543
      @marlafowler3543 Před rokem +1

      We wouldve gotten a field goal, had the refs not let the Bills get away with holding etc AND given them a free, extra down....which is against their own rules. Goodell needs to be audited like tomorrow before he hides evidence

  • @AEM-le7uy
    @AEM-le7uy Před rokem +6

    She made the most sense.

  • @NickSibz
    @NickSibz Před rokem +63

    Ngl, completely with Shady on this one. You're paid a lot of money to not make mistakes like THAT. Mahomes was 3/4ths past the chalk when he got hit.

    • @JuanSanchez-lj8uf
      @JuanSanchez-lj8uf Před rokem +9

      Burrow deserves all that blame that shady is trying to put on ossai. Burrow had two turnovers and only 20 points. The Bengals defense held the high powered Chiefs offense to 20 and Burrow couldn’t get 21? Ossai isn’t get paid big bucks either. Ossai played out of his mind and was a major reason y’all were even in the game. Look at Burrow his two turnovers and two ints for the reason y’all lost.

    • @redmanjohnson4616
      @redmanjohnson4616 Před rokem +3

      What about that Joe Mixon hit outta bounds that wasn't call he was past the white line and the refs didn't call it

    • @molson9059
      @molson9059 Před rokem

      @@redmanjohnson4616 your right but we all see the QB bias that has been reality for over 10 seasons now

    • @maverick33guy95
      @maverick33guy95 Před rokem +3

      @@JuanSanchez-lj8uf Nah Ossai deserves some blame... he is taught not to do that... He knows

    • @frankystrings
      @frankystrings Před rokem

      @@JuanSanchez-lj8uf the o line is bad. You can't so nothing when d lines in your face within 1 second. But you're a mahomes glazer. Football nuance doesn't exist to you

  • @904justify
    @904justify Před rokem +39

    Joy had the best take. I understood what Acho was saying, though.

  • @jamesmiller8262
    @jamesmiller8262 Před rokem +44

    Defense of the bengals balled out can’t blame an entire game on one play especially when Joe burrow played like Dak Prescott

    • @darnelllarryscott7032
      @darnelllarryscott7032 Před rokem

      yes,, you can

    • @bumpsy2358
      @bumpsy2358 Před rokem

      @@darnelllarryscott7032 Joe B. can't hold Patrick M.'s jockstrap. He folded under pressure of the Chiefs defense. 4 quarter 2minutes left, 2 timeouts and the so called great Joe B. could not move the ball 50 yards to get a field goal, Yeah NOT SO GREAT in the moment that counted. He is going to be a star -superstar quarterback in time, but one thing is for sure, he will not be a legendary quarterback ever(as some keep trying to make the argument for), because he aint that guy. And that last 2 min of that game showed you that, if you were paying attention.

    • @kcorpora1
      @kcorpora1 Před rokem

      Yes you can blame it on one play. Oasis idiotic play cost them a chance. Look at the play, he pursued Holmes out of bounds. That ended the OT chance to win.

    • @bumpsy2358
      @bumpsy2358 Před rokem

      @@kcorpora1 Joe Burrow Sucks, champions dont make excuses they overcome. Joe B. lost that game for his team because he is not good enough to score win it is needed.

    • @kcorpora1
      @kcorpora1 Před rokem

      @@bumpsy2358 wait, how did Holmes win the game. The score was 20 to 20. A call gave kc Kicker a layup.

  • @kptyler5
    @kptyler5 Před rokem +71

    I love joy!!!!! And she’s spotting facts I thought Joe was going to March down the field and get at least a field goal that last drive

    • @hebrewharv8018
      @hebrewharv8018 Před rokem +3

      You and me both. I cant lie when they got that 3 and 16. I said oh its over. Burrow gonna win this

    • @theboxingboy7422
      @theboxingboy7422 Před rokem +3

      Yeah I agree they had so much time to make something happen an they just wasted the whole drive. People They wanna take shots at ossai but don't say a thing about a stacked offense who can't make a play against a rookie heavy defense in the 4th quarter of a title game

    • @christopherfrancis2211
      @christopherfrancis2211 Před rokem +1

      The problem is everyone talking about a stacked offense but it don’t matter when a defense is on your qb in less then 3 secs can’t pass if can’t get open in time

    • @marlafowler3543
      @marlafowler3543 Před rokem +2

      He wouldve, had the game been called fairly

    • @TheyCallMeGator
      @TheyCallMeGator Před rokem

      You can't do much when your O-Line is completely inadequate. 3/5ths of them were injured.

  • @faraigarethmaereka2744
    @faraigarethmaereka2744 Před rokem +3

    Thank you Shady for being honest

  • @UnexpectedWonder
    @UnexpectedWonder Před rokem +2

    This is a Classic Sports Debate. This is one of the Best Segments of this Version of the Show.

  • @amartin0417
    @amartin0417 Před rokem +18

    Joy continues to show why she should have her own show. She very accurate with her takes

  • @mistertellez2434
    @mistertellez2434 Před rokem +9

    Joy and Shady are on point here!💪🏽

  • @carsonland6874
    @carsonland6874 Před rokem +57

    Give Joy her own show, she always has the best takes out of this crew!!

    • @PandasRViolent
      @PandasRViolent Před rokem +8

      Agreed, She paid her dues. She has good takes most of the time. Shady is Garbage and never knows what he's talking about. Acho has become full of himself since Wiley left so his takes aren't as good or grounded as they us to be

    • @DUNGSTA
      @DUNGSTA Před rokem +3

      She's 100% correct!

    • @cherylmount1046
      @cherylmount1046 Před rokem +1

      Totally agree, Joy is awesome she is the closer. I disagree that Shady is garbage and Acho is full of himself, however, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

    • @Cj-pg4qe
      @Cj-pg4qe Před rokem

      Her voice is like nails on a chalk board.

    • @charlesmartin_thenegotiator
      @charlesmartin_thenegotiator Před rokem +1

      Please….. or get rid of shady

  • @itsmemickey7541
    @itsmemickey7541 Před rokem +1

    Shady had me rollin! 😂💀😂💀😂💀

  • @costellobangofficial2285

    Joy takes are always on point. Good work sis💯

  • @paulyg5992
    @paulyg5992 Před rokem +89

    He was far far out of bounds

    • @darnelllarryscott7032
      @darnelllarryscott7032 Před rokem

      the defender is a complete idiotic and trying to defend what he did is delusional

    • @eturn23
      @eturn23 Před rokem +3

      I agree. I'm glad no one on this panel questioned whether it was a penalty or not. It was clearly a late hit. I'm sure Ossai will learn from his mistake and come back a better smarter player.

    • @cjfrm3658
      @cjfrm3658 Před rokem +3

      I agree late hit Acho just making noise

  • @truuee9016
    @truuee9016 Před rokem +25

    Ossai was the best defender for the Bengals. It was a bad play but you can't blame him ALONE for losing the game because his play throughout the game, kept them in the game. Butker's kick had an extra 15 yards, KC could have still made a field goal.

    • @darnelllarryscott7032
      @darnelllarryscott7032 Před rokem +2

      maybe, but you don't know that

    • @carsonland6874
      @carsonland6874 Před rokem +4

      @@darnelllarryscott7032 Exactly. Nobody knows what could have happened. Even if KC doesn't make a play to get in FG position, or misses the kick, they go to overtime where both teams get the ball. Ossai changed how the loss happened but he isn't to blame for the loss. Cinci as a team is.

    • @BeastMode40-
      @BeastMode40- Před rokem

      @carson Land I feel that it was somewhat a mix of a bad and good play. Like when they said you have to do enough to stop Mahomes, I was like, what? You have to go beyond to try and beat him. If he was only a little bit faster, it would have been a different story.
      He played his heart out that game and I think adrenaline and the prospect to try and end it with a least a tie blinded him.
      Thats why I'm more on Joy side that shady. You can't put legit most of the blame on Ossai, yeah, you can put like some of it, but when the offense isn't working out and you have have to depend on you're defense against Mahomes, thats a recipe for disaster most of the time.

    • @Mik3yLow
      @Mik3yLow Před 9 měsíci +1

      Both of those 65 yard field goals made in Arrowhead that was mentioned in this segment, both of those were made by Butker. He's making that FG one way or the other. He ALWAYS does

  • @RikiRouseScott
    @RikiRouseScott Před rokem +4

    Shady said 80 percent🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @treshawnwilson7794
    @treshawnwilson7794 Před rokem +7

    Love how joy Talks Sports

  • @jasonk7003
    @jasonk7003 Před rokem +21

    Shady is right, theres no excuse for that play. Every person in the stadium and the 100 million people watching on tv knew Mahomes was going out of bounds long before Ossai got within 10 yards of the sideline.

    • @bigdeboatl23
      @bigdeboatl23 Před rokem +1

      I've seen that same play from Mahomes where he acts like he is going out and he scoots for 8 extra yards.

    • @jasonk7003
      @jasonk7003 Před rokem +1

      @@bigdeboatl23 not on a bad ankle though, Mahomes was clearly hobbling around

    • @morganyu812
      @morganyu812 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes but he's trying to make a crucial stop and the hit was just as Mahones stepped out. Running out of bounds or not those inches are crucial

  • @B.Piercesports
    @B.Piercesports Před rokem +4

    The best segment they ever had with Mccoy

  • @bneil4059
    @bneil4059 Před rokem +5

    It wasn’t six inches. The second shove from Açaí started 4 feet out of bounds. Ocho is tilting at windmills.

  • @pedrorodrigueziii4859
    @pedrorodrigueziii4859 Před rokem +14

    I think this is probably one of the better uses of the phrase "do too much". I agree with Shady that any excuse as to what Ossai thought he could accomplish running Pat down is pointless. I respect that Acho doesn't want to fault the guy for going full steam, but Joy has it right. It's putting effort into doing something that doesn't further your chance to win. Mahomes on a worn out ankle is not trying to juke back in-bounds and risk the clock running further. Let me get out of bounds, live to fight another down or force overtime.

    • @marlafowler3543
      @marlafowler3543 Před rokem +2

      Ridiculous. At any time Mahomes will cut up the sideline.

  • @donham2540
    @donham2540 Před rokem +56

    Starting to enjoy this group a little more. At first it seemed like an unlikely group of individuals but now I’m starting to like contrast between everyone and shady is getting a lot better on tv and his personality is pretty good. He was a great addition and I believe he will continue to get better

    • @K.C.C.L
      @K.C.C.L Před rokem +7

      Shady is always good as long as you dont expect real analysis. Hes the voice of the casual fan

    • @stuartg7507
      @stuartg7507 Před rokem +2

      I like shadys analysis better than gronks most the time

    • @Deej1020
      @Deej1020 Před rokem +1

      Same, they’ve become my favorite group. You can see the growth from them over these last few months.

    • @Roclemente1
      @Roclemente1 Před rokem +1

      Naw, Shady gotta go! lol I’d rather have Mad Dog on there 😂

  • @adwhig
    @adwhig Před rokem +5

    I feel you shady!!!!!

  • @michaelabouabdallah5201
    @michaelabouabdallah5201 Před rokem +37

    That's the first time LeSean say the ultimate truth

  • @dennyroman7935
    @dennyroman7935 Před rokem +8

    joy broke it down the best again

  • @allthingsk3
    @allthingsk3 Před rokem +12

    That was a great take from joy!! Not mad at shady either though but not 80% definitely a bonehead play though

  • @untitled8233
    @untitled8233 Před rokem +14

    Joy is the best thing about this show. Even Dave says, "Joy's take is the right one."

  • @seanw7507
    @seanw7507 Před rokem +2

    How many times have you seen a defender slow up thinking someone was running out of bounds and they give up a touchdown or extra 20+ yards. None of the blame should be on that penalty. It's 100% on the offense doing nothing with the ball and putting that pressure on the defense to not give up a big play.

  • @morrisseythompson8213
    @morrisseythompson8213 Před rokem +2

    Always love the show. Even more glad they added JOY.
    A TRULY SMART N BEAUTIFUL PERSON.
    TEAM JOY*

  • @PandasRViolent
    @PandasRViolent Před rokem +3

    At the end of the day football is neither won nor lost on one play, but a collection of plays. If everyone played better they wouldn't have been in that position to begin with

  • @SolidMikeP
    @SolidMikeP Před rokem +5

    7:43 "IT IS WHAT IT IS" Thats why I love McCoy

    • @gregowens9687
      @gregowens9687 Před rokem +1

      I love my McCoy as a player but as a tv person his takes are trash

    • @dureauful
      @dureauful Před rokem

      You people have to blame. Why? The chiefs were not that good either. They fumbled and lots of other mistakes. It’s over and the Bengals aren’t going to lay down I defeat next year. They will get at least to the division championship again.

  • @CrookedJoeBiden
    @CrookedJoeBiden Před rokem +1

    That play was complete carnage😩Mahomes flew all the way to the bench then knocks out one of the training staff members then 58 hyperextended his leg🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @jordonford9434
    @jordonford9434 Před rokem

    Shady i appreciate you for holding him accountable!

  • @DuckFanDane
    @DuckFanDane Před rokem +33

    He was so far out of bounds. He was almost on the other side of the white line when mahomes got push, and the chalk is past the Outabounds line. He was so so wrong but apparently we don’t want to give responsibility to people who messed up.

    • @SS-fb7zd
      @SS-fb7zd Před rokem +1

      True

    • @childress5000
      @childress5000 Před rokem +6

      He did mess up: that’s a costly mistake, at any point of the game it happens. He just happened to make a costly mistake at the worst possible time, lol.
      He doesn’t deserve all the blame for the loss.

    • @frankmathews
      @frankmathews Před rokem +5

      No but he deserves at least 80%

    • @jaboalexander7062
      @jaboalexander7062 Před rokem

      You're absolutely correct

    • @WarrenFranceSportsNetwork
      @WarrenFranceSportsNetwork Před rokem

      @@childress5000 not all but a BIG PART!

  • @shadowdw26
    @shadowdw26 Před rokem +10

    So nobody gonna mention Burrow throwing 2 picks 🤔 when Dallas lost it was bcuz Dak threw 2 picks but now it's on the defensive player 🤦🏿‍♂️ They move the goal post every week I see...

    • @_unclecharles_
      @_unclecharles_ Před rokem

      the difference is burrow threw 2 picks and was still in position to win the game.

    • @kennethporter4906
      @kennethporter4906 Před rokem +2

      I agree . Picks is picks they could've put it away. They are bias af.

    • @ts4426
      @ts4426 Před rokem +2

      Dak has a long history of not getting it done and has never even made a conference championship game. Burrow is only in his 2nd year healthy and has made 1 superbowl and 2 conference championship games. Don't be dense, burrow is miles ahead of dak.

    • @bumpsy2358
      @bumpsy2358 Před rokem +2

      @@_unclecharles_ But Burrows the great could not get in field goal position in the game when it mattered with 2 mins left in the game with the ball. Joy hit it on the nose, should have just said this. The quarterback that all wants to say is better than Patrick M. could not deliver when it mattered. PERIOD

    • @Cowboys_by_20
      @Cowboys_by_20 Před rokem

      @@_unclecharles_ are u slow cowboys had a chance to win the game

  • @meshachjones6909
    @meshachjones6909 Před rokem +8

    Joy had a fire take 🔥

  • @matthewgierula5674
    @matthewgierula5674 Před rokem +14

    Shady McCoy with correct assessment! If not for that penalty, the Chiefs might not have gotten that FG and it would have gone to overtime. Who know what could have happened? That was literally the dumbest shove in recent NFL history. All the credit in the world to McHommes and what he did with all those injuries on offense. Taking the ball and running with it on one good leg took big balls. Joy's point about the Bengals offense not getting it done on the their last drive was spot on too.

    • @stephencreates2764
      @stephencreates2764 Před rokem

      True but by this same logic Butker could’ve hit the fg from 60 he’s hit from there already this year from 62 hit a 54 and 52 last week.

    • @marcusrudolph5961
      @marcusrudolph5961 Před rokem

      Idk bro shady dropped a good stat only 2 field goals made in arrowhead over 57 yards in history, the chiefs are my squad but I highly doubt he would have a made a 60 yard field goal

    • @patriciatramble8910
      @patriciatramble8910 Před rokem

      Without his play throughout the game, that shove would not have mattered! Blowout!

    • @alexdominguez3727
      @alexdominguez3727 Před rokem +2

      So stupid to blame the guy who kept your team in game whole game, won’t blame Burrow or coaching when it came to punt. Punt out of bounds or touchback don’t let him run back! Stupid to blame him like that.

    • @stephencreates2764
      @stephencreates2764 Před rokem

      @@marcusrudolph5961 I understand not saying it would happen but I’m just saying literally BOTH of those kicks happend THIS year lmaoo

  • @PastorTom2009
    @PastorTom2009 Před rokem +11

    Mahomes was clearly going out of bounds. Yes many plays could make a difference, but that play cost them the game. No question

  • @abcdefghijklmnop514
    @abcdefghijklmnop514 Před rokem +3

    there was a period of time in football when team would run the clock out and go to over time versus throw throw throw and give the other team the ball back. High risk high reward but sometimes it bites you.

  • @conjasummerlin1414
    @conjasummerlin1414 Před rokem +1

    Without Joseph Ossai, the Bengals would not have been even close to having Joseph Ossai costing them the game.

  • @michaelwojcicki3624
    @michaelwojcicki3624 Před rokem +9

    At that point of the game, Ossai 's unsportsman like conduct aided the Chiefs.

    • @carsonland6874
      @carsonland6874 Před rokem +3

      True statement. However that doesn't mean he is to blame for the loss.

    • @michaelwojcicki3624
      @michaelwojcicki3624 Před rokem +1

      @carson Land His lack of control doubled the chance of a successful KC field goal.

    • @carsonland6874
      @carsonland6874 Před rokem

      @@michaelwojcicki3624 which would not have made such a difference had Burrow executed on his last 2 drives

  • @zachpaige4033
    @zachpaige4033 Před rokem +6

    The issue is it’s one of the only calls that should have been called all night.

  • @rik4369
    @rik4369 Před rokem +3

    I am a Bengals Fan since 1975. Ossian has been a main cog in our team this year. That game was lossed when we had the ball with 2:30 left and we couldn't get a field goal to win the game. Joy as usual was 100% right.
    We love our Bengals and for me it is EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Are we going to blame the balls missed by our recievers that hit them in the hands and helmets? We lossed the game mainly, because we've had no Running Game since the last Super Bowl. No Running Game , No Win.
    Joe Burrows is good buy he can't win a Super Bowl until teams RESPECT OUR Running Game.

    • @salvatoreturieo5803
      @salvatoreturieo5803 Před rokem

      Since 1975, you been a loser, wow, well not you, but surely your team, who dey, who dey. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @popplebutt
    @popplebutt Před rokem +1

    Look what happened on bengals last drive???? Refs call international grounding when the ball landed almost at an eligible receivers feet??????
    Cost the bengals an entire play.....come on man????!!!!!!!!!!!!???

  • @KeenEyeVP
    @KeenEyeVP Před rokem

    I love this lady... 🤣 🤣

  • @Maskxprx
    @Maskxprx Před rokem +15

    This Bengals team was so good. They can make an argument as the greatest Bengals team ever. They learn so much about themselves throughout this season and made a lot of adjustments to get better. I believe that if they started the next season the way they ended this year they could have been 15-2.

    • @GoGoOpie
      @GoGoOpie Před rokem +5

      If Lamar Jackson wasn't hurt the ravens would've eliminated the Bengals!

    • @lesliehuff3978
      @lesliehuff3978 Před rokem +2

      They gotta start paying ppl now. That team won’t ever be the same

    • @Brudderfolkz
      @Brudderfolkz Před rokem

      @@GoGoOpie that part

    • @FlyyHigh834
      @FlyyHigh834 Před rokem

      could have but didn't so who cares

    • @nabi4241
      @nabi4241 Před rokem

      Best bengela team was when the year they had plamer, Chad, and tj.. Palmar got hurt first pass of the playoffs that year. They was gonna win the superbowl that year..

  • @paulyg5992
    @paulyg5992 Před rokem +25

    He could have really hurt mahomes in a bad way he ended up hurting himself that's not happening if he didn't touch him

    • @omniamericana2172
      @omniamericana2172 Před rokem +1

      Nah Mahomes was going down anyway- with that ankle it’s the only way he could stop his momentum.

    • @marlafowler3543
      @marlafowler3543 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, thats real ignorant of you lmao. There are laws of physics that cover momentum, dear. Google is free, go learn about it.

  • @marioduran8224
    @marioduran8224 Před rokem

    All very good points! It is what it is, can't go back. All one can do is learn from it and move forward.

  • @emmanuelstokes9615
    @emmanuelstokes9615 Před rokem +2

    1. Joy had the best point
    2. LeSean is not trynna hear anything Acho has to say 💀😂

  • @142splatz
    @142splatz Před rokem +5

    Joy had the best take. Burrow had the opportunity to seal the deal and he came up short.

    • @reesyshmoney6516
      @reesyshmoney6516 Před rokem

      How is that on the offense?? Okay they bengals had a chance to win and couldn’t do it. The Defense is supposed to have their back and at least take the game to OT

    • @Solid1800
      @Solid1800 Před rokem

      @@reesyshmoney6516 the bengals had the ball twice with 5 minutes left , inexcusable with them being the “most explosive offense “

  • @Bakuru
    @Bakuru Před rokem +5

    I'm a little conflicted LOL I agree with Joy completely as far as saying as bad as that was, he's not the main blame of the loss. The fact that Joe Cool couldn't get anywhere with TWO possessions in the last 5 minutes of this game, is utterly insane. And HAS to be recognized, no matter what happened afterward.
    Having said that, I also agree with Shady in the egregiousness of that mistake. We later on find out what he was TRYING to do, which actually makes it worse because it wasn't possible LOL we found out that he was trying to hit Mahomes backward so that when he ended up out of bounds, the clock would continue to run because of lack of forward progress. Which makes sense. The problem was, MAHOMES ALREADY PASSED YOU 🤣 HOW did you expect to do that?? Were you just tired and not thinking about the actual MECHANICS of the plan you were trying? It was ridiculous, and he got instant karma doing it because he actually ended up hurting HIMSELF tripping during the shove. It shouldn't have happened, and even though I believe Pat might have been able to make the fg manageable with one more play anyway, it still should have never happened

    • @bliine
      @bliine Před rokem

      Bro he actually completed a pass on 3rd & 6 for the first down and the line was called for holding which made it 3rd n 16 and stopped the clock. How could this be on Joe?
      Go back to when the Chiefs lost to the BUCS and Pat was playing without 3 starters on the line and they got blowed out nobody blamed Pat. The fact that it was 20-20 wit 8 seconds left with ball on 44 makes that a 60 yd kick this was headed to OT if he doesn't late hit. This is all on him

    • @Bakuru
      @Bakuru Před rokem

      @@bliine I actually wasn't blaming Joe at all. I was blaming the Bengals offense as a whole.
      A winning team gets points on those drives. The only person who seemed to be TRYING was Joe. And Chase LOL I'm sorry, but that trumps that mistake to me any day. Patty wild have gotten those yards anyway next play most likely. No excuse for the offense the last 5 minutes of that game. None

    • @bliine
      @bliine Před rokem

      @@Bakuru I'm witcha my guy but imma give Chiefs defense some credit. No timeouts 8 seconds left they going to OT. I'm putting this on Ossai you can't give up 15 yds right there. He they can call a play that gets 15yds and get out of bounds then ok let that happen

  • @margeeez
    @margeeez Před rokem +1

    Bro Shady is too funny😂😂😂

  • @M_Lev
    @M_Lev Před rokem +1

    Tough situation overall, and it's pretty much a philosophical conversation in every sense. I agree with Joy, Dave, and Acho.. hard not to have feelings for the guy.

  • @joemagarac405
    @joemagarac405 Před rokem +6

    With that crippled O line, it’s amazing that the Bengals were in the game at all. Ossai played great all game and made a very dumb move at the end. Burrow did great under constant pressure.

  • @franciscolaurean8550
    @franciscolaurean8550 Před rokem +4

    Does dude deserve blame? Yea sure but he doesn't deserve as much heat as he's getting. Joe Burrow is the face if the franchise and made more mistakes throwing picks and not been able to get down the field to at least put up 3 cost them way more. The punt return that followed was insane too but we just remember the last play that concluded the game. It was a dumb decision don't get me wrong it was just the last straw that broke the Bengal's back

  • @MrNando7986
    @MrNando7986 Před rokem

    These are the best comments I've heard about that game.

  • @isaacdiaz9809
    @isaacdiaz9809 Před rokem

    Acho the only one on the panel ever been in this situation so his perspective has merit.

  • @DC4L1991
    @DC4L1991 Před rokem +3

    Nah, y’all give the QB’s y’all love all the credit so Joe Shiesty gotta get the blame. He threw 2 picks which the Chiefs turned into at least 6 points….but we know what’s going on.

  • @BenReillySpydr1962
    @BenReillySpydr1962 Před rokem +4

    Didn't the news just report he is on suicide watch or something or may retire? 😬

  • @KeJuan-918
    @KeJuan-918 Před rokem +1

    Shady said Duhhh 🤣🤣🤣💯

  • @EvybdyhatesJuJuj
    @EvybdyhatesJuJuj Před rokem

    Thank you Shady.

  • @agnideva8227
    @agnideva8227 Před rokem +7

    Lol Shady was awesome "this is what I hate about defense" calls em "dummies" and proceeds to steamroll the segment. And he was totally on point!
    If he bumped him with his chest, Acho might have an argument but dude's hands were extended in frustration, not containment.

  • @clearlyme6104
    @clearlyme6104 Před rokem +17

    It was his fault , he caused the bengals the game point blank . He turned a 60 yarder into a 45 yarder , what a shame

    • @try_-
      @try_- Před rokem +2

      They still couldve easily closed that 60yrd field goal in 8 seconds

    • @brandonmuse5532
      @brandonmuse5532 Před rokem

      Agreed

    • @clearlyme6104
      @clearlyme6104 Před rokem +1

      @@try_- difficult level went from all madden to pro lol

    • @ttg8966
      @ttg8966 Před rokem +8

      Burrows still had 2
      Opportunities to win the game in the 4th instead of getting the 1st down he went and threw a puck looking for the home run. And when he had the ball in the last 2 minutes couldn’t even get a fg and gave the ball back in 40 secs! At least milk the clock so no one can score if you guys can’t score! That’s what Andy always does and bill always milk the clock when you have the ball.

    • @Raven.Bloodrot
      @Raven.Bloodrot Před rokem +1

      To be fair, Joy has a point the offense could've at least took time off the clock.

  • @ADL21
    @ADL21 Před rokem +2

    Patrick Mahomes in the AFC Championship vs the titans game ran toward the sideline like he was going out, and then tip toed the sideline for a 27 yard touchdown. There's precedent. Gotta make sure he IS out of bounds, but he was WELL out of bounds. They're both out of bounds which is why they BOTH got sent into the bench.

  • @CATrickB
    @CATrickB Před rokem +1

    This is hilarious that LeSean McCoy is hitching and crying about the defense failing, but is perfectly okay with the "high powered" offense that is LITERALLY the staple of the team, failing their defense over and over again all game.

  • @maureen1031
    @maureen1031 Před rokem +3

    Yes, Ossai didn't have to reach out gor him...but because he did didn't lose the game for Cincy. Yes that penalty put them in position to win but the offence had their chance and didn't get it done. This is a team game.

  • @glodmack6396
    @glodmack6396 Před rokem +4

    Acho really just be talking 😂😂😂

  • @wm6882
    @wm6882 Před rokem +1

    shady saying he tucked the ball, yeah right 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @AdonisWebChannel
    @AdonisWebChannel Před rokem

    I love shady bro he kills Emmanuel everytime

  • @demetriusrobinson2301
    @demetriusrobinson2301 Před rokem +5

    Once they gave Mahomes the ball back it was over

    • @JordanT3025
      @JordanT3025 Před rokem

      Mahomes didn’t do anything they won because a penalty

  • @Benjamin-fc9ww
    @Benjamin-fc9ww Před rokem +3

    This dud ACHO is making it seem like Ossai is some sort of wild animal or something 😂 you can still think while you play bro

  • @Harlem1mentality
    @Harlem1mentality Před rokem +1

    It’s a team sport! No team is perfect. To say a singular player. Just one player caused the team to lose. When in reality there were multiple moments that caused the team to lose

  • @NighDarke
    @NighDarke Před rokem +1

    The bottom line is if it weren't for that penalty they might not have lost. The game would have gone into overtime and they'd have had a chance to win. That penalty tossed that chance out the window.

  • @jesusv14jv
    @jesusv14jv Před rokem +4

    Joy makes it sound so easy just “go win the game” that’s all you have to do😂😂

  • @B_Clem
    @B_Clem Před rokem +4

    Joy always on point and no I'm not talking about her being a 24/7 smoke show

  • @concernedcitizen9594
    @concernedcitizen9594 Před rokem

    One call that prevented the Bengals from having an extra possession cost the Bengals the game. The PI on #21 which gave the chiefs an automatic first down on a 3rd and 9 play. 21 barely had his hand on the reciever when he swatted the ball down.

  • @diehardeaglesfansince1994

    He said that he did not realize how close they were to the sideline and he was trying to get to him so we can push them out of bounds backwards so it would not be a stopped clock

  • @brandonthomas39
    @brandonthomas39 Před rokem +3

    Mahomes is the same guy that acted like he was going to go out of bounds and then ran in for a touchdown a few years ago against the titans.
    It’s a rule that good QBs can take advantage of.

  • @dallaslove8344
    @dallaslove8344 Před rokem +3

    Joe really thrown 4 int but they took two away KC had one turnover they can blame that dude

  • @timothywdillon121
    @timothywdillon121 Před rokem

    Integrity gentleman..... do the right thing even when no one's looking..... including the Mayor of the great city of Cincinnati..... Zac Taylor a class act of a Tony Dunge style. ... hats off to the Bengals organization..... season well done

  • @mike12345807
    @mike12345807 Před rokem +1

    Shady always speaks the truth!

  • @joshlemley4165
    @joshlemley4165 Před rokem +4

    Thank you, Shady! You the man! We as a nation are soft. So no one can be at fault. It was the D ends fault 95%. You are taught at Pop Warner dont touch a player going out of bounds

  • @malachithegreat3889
    @malachithegreat3889 Před rokem +4

    Lets face it. It would have been a 50 to 60 yard kick. Chances are they would have missed. That penalty is the reason Chiefs got closer yardage with only 8 seconds left and thus the winning kick. (Which barely made it through, btw). And it wasnt even from a football play. The fact that it was a dirty play. Ossai is 100% the main reason the Bengals lost. Everyone knows it and he has to live with that.

    • @jeffgulla1399
      @jeffgulla1399 Před rokem

      He had to know Mahomes was running out of bounds, you gotta know the situation and where you are on the field. Just a Stupid Dumb Play, and Yes it is 100 times easier kicking a 45 yard field goal than 60+ yards. Oassi owes Bengals fans a heart felt apology

    • @trumpdrago517
      @trumpdrago517 Před rokem

      Nahh. I think pat gets a 13 yard out route for a 48 yarder

    • @malachithegreat3889
      @malachithegreat3889 Před rokem

      @@trumpdrago517 not with 8 seconds too close to call. He is gonna do a Hail Mary. Chances are they go to OT

    • @trumpdrago517
      @trumpdrago517 Před rokem

      @@malachithegreat3889 bruh, he scored with 13 vs the bills

  • @zoomsday3999
    @zoomsday3999 Před rokem +2

    Shady keeping it real💯

  • @robterrell7301
    @robterrell7301 Před rokem +2

    I love Joy Taylor’s takes.
    Huge Bengals fan here!!!

  • @andrewhinchberger9706
    @andrewhinchberger9706 Před rokem +3

    I've been a fan of Acho's and Joy's analysis for a while now, and LeSean and David are great as well. Easily the best NFL talk show out there nowadays.

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous Před rokem

      Wrong. First things first way better

  • @Maxbps88
    @Maxbps88 Před rokem +1

    No one in Cincinnati is blaming Joseph Ossai. We love Joseph Ossai. He played an amazing game. Then made a bad mistake at a pivotal point in the game; if not the most pivotal point.
    Playoff Pratt did not blame JO for the loss. PP was letting off some steam in a situation he thought he was clear of video cameras; which is foolish, in fact more foolish than Ossai's mistake.
    But, we love this team. The Bengals will win a Super Bowl in the next three years. In fact, the Burrow led Bengals will win 3+ Super Bowls over the next 12-years.

    • @rik4369
      @rik4369 Před rokem

      Thank You!!! I love all of them. Win or lose that is my team. My biggest grip since the blown Super Bowl was our Running Game doesn't help relive the pressure on Joe and the patched up OLINE.
      Almost a year later and we still have no Running Game to get us those 2nd Downs and 3 or 4. Those last 2:40 minutes , Mahones should have NEVER got back on the field, if we chewed up the clock, by running the ball. I believe KC was out of Time outs. With our Kicker we only needed 3 to win.
      I am from NC and haven't had any ill feelings towards Ossia. His body of work all year has earned my RESPECT!
      People forget but The Dolphines got blowed out in the Super Bowl the year before they won. The following year they went 17-0. That record still stands.
      Stay the course Bengals, we beat KC 3 of 4 and twice with Tyric Hill.
      Semper Fi Bengals!!!!!
      Always Faithful

  • @davidcalhoun3235
    @davidcalhoun3235 Před rokem +1

    He is not to be blamed mostly for the lost. He just was unlucky enough to have the last mistake made by the team. Many mistakes were made that game.