Ryan Clark & Dan Orlovsky GET HEATED debating Josh Allen’s loss to the Chiefs | Get Up
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- On Get Up, Ryan Clark, Dan Orlovsky and Rex Ryan talk through the Kansas City Chiefs ousting the Buffalo Bills from the NFL playoffs.
0:00 Rex loved what he saw
1:00 RC chimes in
2:00 Orlovsky retorts
6:00 Did Josh Allen cost the Bills the game?
10:00 Rex responds
12:20 Chiefs vs. Bills difference makers
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Ryan Clark: "I don't believe that Josh Allen is the reason this team lost. Do you know what the greats are, the reason their teams win" Quote of the day!! 🙌🙌
Exactly. Allen did everything he was supposed to do in that 13 second game to win, and NO ONE would have felt bad for Mahomes. The point RC was making is that when Mahomes had to be great he was. He had to be perfect and was.
@@ecpracticesquad4674So outside of that 13 seconds how come the Buffalo Bills had the football more?
Best sports person on tv I’ll argue wit anybody bout it
@ecpracticesquad4674 but so did Josh. He is acting like Josh plays defense. The defense ultimately won it for Chiefs. Let's be honest about that and that so called penalty.
RC definitely bet big money on the bills lol
I appreciate Ryan Clark for being the only one in the media to hold Allen accountable for his 900th playoff loss.
Everybody else hate mahomes
Bro Josh Allen was the best player on the field yesterday 😂 but when Mahomes loses it’s everybody else around him right?
THANK YOU!!!! SO MUCH FACTS...💯💯💯💯💯
I agree there is a need for the media to want him to win (and I am a Bills fan) but I think his playoff record is about the same if not better than Lamar. I guess the difference is Lamar probably underappreciated if anything. ps. I don't know the stats in terms of playoff records (Lamar vs Allen) but do remember Bills knocking out the Ravens about 2 years ago.
josh allen has zero culpability for last night's loss brotha
Ryan clark took these boys to school today. Standing ovation!!!👏🏿
Ya, really schooled them for sure! 🤪🤪
FACTS
He did
Grow up racist
Heck yea
Lmao I’ve never seen people make as many excuses for a QB like they do for Josh Allen. He had every opportunity to take this game and win it at home!!! He was gifted a dropped pick and a recovered fumble! As well as 7 pts off the board on the bone head running play that was fumbled through the end zone! 😂 cmon man!! He played hero ball when he did not need to!
Nice seeing you hear
If it was Lamar media would be falling over each other to hate on him
I agree 100%
Tan Superman.
@@lujones9961 it’s so funny to me when Lamar Jackson wins unanimous MVP, and is going to get his second one and people still think he’s being disrespected and hated by the media. Maybe when you play bad, you get that attention? He was one and three in the playoffs before this with the last time we saw him being a 103 yard pick six going into the fourth quarter.
When Lamar goes and wins a SB I promise you he’ll get his proper praise because he deserves it
It’s crazy cuz if Lamar lost that game the same way it would be a whole different narrative lol..the media loves Josh Allen
ong lamar would be getting GRILLED right now
Yup and it's cuz josh is a reminder of the old nfl quarterbacks. Tall and big armed and aggressive
yea Lamar would be getting crucified right now as we speak
My goodness thank you. I don’t even wanna think about how Lamar would be getting eviscerated if he had lost this game.
@@Jay-vm4lc And white
THANK YOU RYAN CLARK FOR BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE QB TALK!!!!Keep the exact energy!
Allen Over Mahomes
0-3
I totally agree with him
@@kevinlall3063 It was all for laughs, BUT! Wasn’t his fault.
Just like it won’t be Mahomes fault when the Ravens punch in their ticket to the Super Bowl.
@iamdflamont your closet triggered. If Allen was to win last night. You wouldn't hesitate to say Allen is going to the SB. Your bias is showing
When RC said "he's not the reason they lost, but the greats are the reason you win." The debate was over.
Facts 🥶
“Smoke your stats at your house” is HILARIOUS
That was wild, I was not ready for that 😆
😂😂
RC is smoking them in this discussion lol. Rex Ryan literally says "He's done everything but win." Which is the point of the game. To win the game. 😂😂
Factz. Literally proved RC’s point without even realizing it😂😂😂
Literally when have we started to give people that loss a pass just bc they are good like wth?💀
Josh Allen has been the New York media's Superbowl championship for the last 3 years. They want it soooooo badly.
Im saying!!! Do they even hear themselves??
All day!!
"If Allen was playing at home with the 'bills mafia' behind him it would have been a different game." Words to lose by.
Bills were also playing with a DEPLATED defense that was decimated by injuries as a FULLY HEALTHY Bills team would've won.
This is ridiculous. Josh again is getting more credit for losing this game than Pat gets for winning. Amazing.
Defense has been the reason for KC winning this year and this game.
Yes, but let's admit that you would much rather be the guy that doesn't get credit for winning. Again, Mahomes goes to the AFC championship game; he doesn't know what it's like to suffer the humiliation of not being in these games, the aura, the prestige, the expectations, on and on. The dude feels like this is his birthright by now.
It's just manufactured for TV debate. Orlovsky had to play a clown for a segment.
It was a good close game and Allen was playing roughly as well as Mahomes, but Allen/playcalling royally screwed the pooch at the end. A first down would have been better than a TD in many ways. A first down meant Chiefs were going to have 0 timeouts when/if they got the ball back. Then a FG would have actually had a good chance to go to OT. A TD would have almost certainly sealed the game. But going for it with the timeouts and time the Chiefs had meant a FG even if made was all but meaningless and a TD probably gives them probably little better than a coinflip to win(I still like Mahomes to make it happen but this year was rough on his 4th qtr magic).
@@DJBERASI777our defense did not win the game the offense had to show up bills was running all over us 😂😂
@@DJBERASI777 how when everyone is saying Allen was "spectacular". Which one is it?
Finally someone is holding these QBs accountable and on the same level had this been Lamar losing o man the media would’ve had a field day today.
allen is just so over rated hes good but just not good enough to get over the hump
@@tannerseditsto make it this far in the playoffs he is that guy. Diggs failed him several times and is definitely overrated. Allen isn't over rated at all and lamar couldn't beat mahomes till last year in regular season 1 time and we went back and beat him the next time. Yall were saying lamar was trash and couldn't beat mahomes infact called him lamars kryptonite. Now suddenly lamar is the goat gtfoh. Lamar is good but he's not proven against mahomes its the opposite actually
@@justinkooker1460 playoffs is where it matters neither of them have proved it yet🤷🏼♂️
@@justinkooker1460 josh is a glorified dak prescott
Whenever Lamar lost in the playoffs he played terribly, Josh Allen played good enough to win the game but his team let him down once again
Man, I thought that Nick Wright over exaggerated how much the media sucks off Josh Allen but this is really telling. Crazy to watch in real time
Bills fans want to believe everyone is against them and Josh Allen but they get every benefit of the doubt without earning it.
Tbf they did the same with Mahomes. All season he got the drops excuse for every loss. But yeah Allen isn’t that guy that the media is trying to portray him as. He still has issues with some of his decision making and always wants to go for the big shot
100%
@@ballinforlife9@ least mahomes has won two superbowls and two MVPs I don’t get what Josh Allen did for this type of defense
@@ballinforlife9it was not to this degree tho, probably because Brady was still playing and Lamar had his crazy mvp year
The fact that this whole segment is about Allen and not mahomes, who WON, is just wild!
Don’t worry the whole segment gonna be about Lamar losing to a real QB next week 😂😂😂
Go Chiefs! @@jospehburney7805
@@jospehburney7805he not gonna lose. It's scripted
@@quan144It’S sCrIpTeD. Shut up nerd
They got all week to slurp mahomes lol
None of the other three quarterbacks that lost this weekend is getting excuses but Josh Allen. . That's ridiculous !!!
@@user-bv9yy4rc8z Josh Allen did not have 52 TDs this season. Stop making stuff up. Also, ESPN's EPA-based total QBR factors in WR drops and QB runs, and yet Mahomes had a grading of 94 and Allen had 62 for the game. Most of Allen's passes were behind the line of scrimmage. Why should we celebrate the loser and weaker performer after a game?
Ryan straight cooked Dan 😭 absolute best segment I’ve seen on the show in a long time.
RC is killing their arguments
Thank you Ryan Clark! I’m getting tired of all the excuses for Allen after every season ending in failure
his defense had the biggest play of the game turnover on the 1 yard line. oh ya and josh allen fumbled the balll and KC defense couldve jumped on it but Kincaid made crazy save happen...
They lost by 3 it was close
@@isaiahh4108 yeah and great players win close playoff games which Josh Allen consistently fails to do
As a Bills fan, I agree with Ryan. JA17 won’t ever even make it to a SB. Elite QBs win the big games
@@nathanfrancis9411 all his playoff wins were close games except for the ones vs Pitts and NE
Man if Josh Allen had two mvps , two super bowls , two Super Bowl mvps, 3-0 in the playoffs vs the Chiefs and made it to six straight conference finals, we wouldn’t be debating or saying it’s a coin flip
What? That makes no sense
This is the dumbest thing I ever heard
@antoniomclean5638 that's what I said. That's like saying of cows had wings they could fly.
@@MrSiahgoldIt makes sense to me. If Lamar with 2 MVP’s and the Ravens won two SBA no one would have a right to doubt his greatness. The Bills consistently loss big games so yes, we legitimately can say Josh is not on the level of greatness.
@@thomasbrown6000 that's clearly not what it says 🙄
They would NOT DEFEND Lamar or Dak if they were in this same situation
Because they are black
Please remove Dak from that list.. 😂😂😂😂😂. He has done nothing worth defending
Dak and Tua equal talent
What you need to do is remove your stupid comment from here. You know youre just being a pathetic hater of Dak because its the "cool" thing to do now ya frigging clown.@@gladyskihara4736
@@gladyskihara4736yes he has. Stop it.
Could you imagine Lamar losing at home like that when everyone is saying, "If you can't beat this team now, then you never will."? They wouldn't be talking about how great Lamar is. Man would've been crucified.
That's what happens every year to Dak Prescott.
Lamar hardly every gets this level of defense even though everyone knows he does it all for his offense.
Cmon man, no ones talking about Lamar
Let’s leave hypotheticals out of this
Facts
That’s what irks me when it come to Josh. If Lamar plays the exact same way and lose this weekend ppl go be on his neck
Brady's advice is haunting Allen:
"take the checkdowns...make it easier...dont always do the big plays"
And Yet DO says the big plays are justified 😂😢
Exactly I was just thinking bout that yesterday
Not really. He took a lot of big plays and the receivers dropped the ball. Him not turning over the ball put them in a position to win at the end. Ironically he SHOULD HAVE thrown the check down to Diggs instead of going to the end zone at the end of the game. Would have set them up with a fresh first down he was wide open.
@@rjth796 its called TIMELY football. a game decided by 3-5 plays
@@rjth796he took 3… in the 4th quarter after not even looking deep 90% of the game. Yall act like this a game of Madden where psychology doesn’t matter. None of those guys were expecting to get the ball and that’s on the play calling. They played like punks the entire game, but when they are forced to finally play football it’s everyone else’s fault. Mahomes was scoring in 3 min because he played football
I absolute love these match-ups between RC and Dan O. Best combo of analysts anywhere. And RC is right - the media has been so desperate to annoint the next star quarterback that they will overlook anything. Almost all of sports media was campaigning for the Bills to win.
but we’ve seen this movie before. that big arm guy outta some small school playing in a cold weather town that loves football and threw a bunch of picks but made some seriously spectacular plays so the interceptions were overlooked and everybody loved him. he’s literally living Brett Favre‘s life without the MVPs and the SB. like when Barry broke 2k yards rushing for the third time in league history and he had to share the MVP with Favre that year. it was a joke
Are these "experts" ANALYSTS?. What are they analyzing? i see bunch of bs on fancy suits.
The way the media coddles Josh Allen is crazy
They see how good he is and decide it's okay to let go of all his bad decisions
They are so desperate to annoint Josh Allen and Joe Burrow over Mahomes. It's weird.
Do you mean how Dan orlovsky coddles QBs? He does that
What! Literally no qb gets blame more than him. Let’s not talk about how Allen outplayed Mahomes and threw a 60 yard dime that Diggs drop.
Mahomes is the biggest girl in the NFL. The only poise he has is between his legs
I've never seen a more perfect takedown of the Allen loving media than RC did in the last minute of this clip. Beautiful. Keep being real RC!
The real rivalry is Mahomes-Burrow not Mahomes-Allen
It's like TB vs Rivers. Josh hasn't proven anything to be compared to Josh.
Thank you for big picture perspective. Going into LAST year's postseason, I've been expecting Chiefs vs Bengals (barring injury, just like we saw this year) every year.
Burrow has not finished 50% of the seasons he has started you can't be a rivalry if 50% of the time you are a no show.
Lamar > Burrow
Mahomes burrow ain’t a rivalry. Bills chiefs clears by a mile.
Ryan hit em with "You having an unnatural allegiance to losers is not like you"... LMAO
ONG LMFAO
Josh Allen had no problem scoring when the game started. Running up and down the field. BUT when it mattered most Josh Allen couldn't get it done! Stop making excuses! He's the leader of that team so it's on him! 💯💯💯
he was getting carried by the run game lmaoooo and DAN is acting like his team was getting carried and not balling out....
@@user-bv9yy4rc8z loool 2 time mvp lamar jackson lil boy now wipe ur mouth JA scored 7 points in a half at home... dats why he home
Josh Allen will never win a Superbowl. Period
I've never seen people so hard pressed to give out a consolation prize. Appreciate RC for taking them to task
Crazily. Richard Sherman had to be voice of reason on this game/allen on skip’s show.
They seem to be a part of the participation trophy era. If they are sorry for them. Then where is the motivation to Better themselves?
Exactly, with a little bit of common sense, the Bills could’ve won that game and run out the clock yesterday. Pitiful
Exactly. I don’t understand this love affair for Josh Allen when he constantly loses these games.
Mahomes has been to 6 straight afc championships. It’s not a rivalry. It’s not even close
you've never heard of lamar jackson? ravens lose if the OC asks LJ to actually throw the ball.
The argument is "One day Josh Allen will have a lucky day." 😂
Josh Allen is a beast, he is one of the best QBs in the NFL but he does need a little luck like Mahomes get sometimes.😊 But yesterday, I will say that Allen target choices and one bad pass cost the Bills the game.
I mean he did have a lucky day, Chiefs fumbled thru the endzone, Conner doesn’t fall on the ball Josh fumbled. Absolutely massive plays that couldve been a 14 point swing in favor of the Chiefs and made this more lopsided. Mahomes is levels above Allen
Everything is "what if" with Josh. Bro is potential man nothing else 😂
@@jaypaladin-havesmartswilll5508aint no way u said Mahomes gets lucky. Didnt he drive his team down the field in 13 sec
💀💀💀
The way Dan defends Josh Allen is admiring hahaha
It’s idiotic. And pathetic lmao. There’s nobody who defends actually good qb’s that go further 😂
No, it's disgusting and diminishes his credibility
He did the same for Wentz
Yes! And remember Dan Orvlovsky said Carson Wentz was a good QB! Dan sucked so bad a QB and sees another bad QB and thinks they're good. What an idiot.
THANK YOU RYAN CLARK!!!!💯💯💯
IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE AT ESPN HAD THE COURAGE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS NONSENSE!!!!
Huh? The Media has been hammering the "over rated" thing about Allen for years now. Mostly just to use race but still. It's a dead horse at this point. Allen bad for losing to Mahomes in playoffs. Lamar great for never making the playoffs...idk
Josh Allen is the media darling. Every year they pick Bills to go all the way. Ryan Clark had to remind people to talk about the WINNING QB. Mahomes has neen let down by his WR's ALL year..and STILL got back to Championship. That's greatness.
FACTS 🤣🤣 they treat Josh Allen like the lil special Ed kid on the team 😂😂😂😂😂
Bills will be the off season superbowl favorites again. Can't wait til they lose next season again.
If he beats the Ravens...BRUH 😮
Allen’s receivers let him down. Couldn’t catch perfect bombs from him all night
@@dylanmatthews6836Mahomes has been dealing with that all season and he is in the Conference Championship. Allen had to deal with it for one game, and was unable to overcome it.
the glazing of allen is CRAZYYY
Lmao they treating him like the special ed kid 😂😂😂😂
Cuz he white that’s all…
@@Jaywon977man your crazy 😂😂😂😂
@@Jaywon977elite level comment
@@Jaywon977 ong bro
Ryan is spitting🗣️100% FACTS🤣😂
Ryan is absolutely correct! You have to go out and win these games if you want to be considered one of the greats. Period!
“It sucks that someone has to lose!” OH PLEASE 🤣 they wanted Buffalo to win so bad
did u hear romo and nantz commenting the game? they were cheering for the bills
@@jaysonsmith7264 literally dude they were devastated after the L 💀
Yeah if Buffalo won they wouldn’t be saying that
Josh Allen also fumbled in the biggest moment and got lucky the Bills recovered it.
Facts KC was trying to scoop and score
Chiefs could’ve easily won by 14 they fail to realize that the chiefs were an inch from putting the game away lol
this part
Two lucky fumbles went the Bills way and they wanna say “Josh Allen shoulda won” Even the kick, mahomes would have 1:42 to drive for a FG? You’re done
Saved Allen's legacy with that one.
I can’t believe they talked about this dude losing for a whole segment.🤦🏽♂️
😂😂😂
Love seeing Rex laughing because he knows Ryan is right 😂🤣😂🤣🤣
Media wants Josh Allen to be elite so bad. Every year they hype him then when he loses they still hype him. How manys years now??
He is elite. Please watch the games😂
@@0212089HE DOESNT WIN😂😂😂😂😂
I’m a KC fan Allen is elite there’s just a guy whose more elite
4 at least. Him and Herbert the same.
@@Z_Rodriguez13burrow is ahead of him and if Lamar wins it all then he will be 3rd best.
The media so desperately want to put Allen on par with Mahomes. The bias is obvious
They are trying to place he and burrow above him.
They can try all they want, we ain’t listening to their lies.
Mahomes and Lamar are unequivocally the two best QBs of this era and it's been that way for years. Yet the media and NFL won't accept or acknowledge that. For..."reasons". Some of us know exactly what those reasons really are...
They make more excuses for Josh Allen coming up with Ls than they ever do for any other QB.
Ryan Clark is right we give more excuses to Josh Allen than anybody else. he had the ball in his hands and he didn’t get it done but it’s not his fault they lost. He just wasn’t the reason that they won. The all-time greats are guys that you can rely on to be the reason that you win those big games. So it’s not his fault. He’s a fantastic player. He’s just not the type of guy in those all-time moments who is gonna win the game no matter what like Patrick mahomes
“I don’t care, it does not matter that he played well. What matters, is that he’s at his house.” 🔥
Well so is Mahomes, it would be weird if he just stayed in Baltimore all week.
@@Kevon420over your head
@@Kevon420 swoosssshhhhh.
Yikes bro..
@@Kevon420we get you’re slow like the Dallas cowboys.
Smoke cigars at your house Josh 😅
Thank you RC for putting these apologists in their place
Ryan Clark keeping it 100. All facts!
In the words of Ric Flair, "to be the man, you got to beat the man!"
The worst part is Dan ADMITTING he wouldn’t do the same thing for mahomes but he doesn’t see the problem lmaoo
I’ve never see so much credit given to a great player for losing.. this is weird now
I keep saying this
GTBW
That’s what happens when you play very well!!
JOSH ALLEN THE NEW PHILIP RIVERS.....NO SUPER BOWL APPEARANCE, NO MVP
did you read the title of the video????? Allen made throws to win that game. Allen made runs to win that game. They should stick up for him. I"ve never seen 4 replies giving credit to a dumb post.
Ryan Clark a real one 😂😂 he setting the tone, he knew Dan was gonna shield Josh and coddle him. When at these moments CRITICISM WILL MAKE HIM BETTER.
Ryan Clark shut everybody up at 5:15 😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
I swear Josh Allen is the only guy that can constantly lose in the playoffs and still have people cape for him, every other qb it’s about wins and Ls but with Josh it’s “oh but he played so well”
He has zero accomplishments and a lot of excuses.
Media just loves his baby face. Mahomes lost to Brady with an entire backup O line and was having receivers dropping TD's that were hitting them in the facemask and there was no coddling for him.
Analysts and some fans desperately want him to be the face of the league. He turns the ball over with stupid decisions sometimes and the media just shrugs and says that's just "who he is".😐 Meanwhile Lamar gets absolutely crucified by some people even when a loss isn't his fault. The double standard is just crazy
I’m not a Dak Prescott hater but Josh Allen’s playoff results are far superior
@@oliverupload bro I know you a Dak hater because no one in this thread even brought him up lmao get outta here troll
🤔They spent a whole hour talking about a LOSING quarterback Josh Allen. I'm a Raven fan for life but ex-Steeler Ryan Clark was PREACHING TRUTH!!!!
Ikr. Richard Sherman had to same and actually be to voice of reason with Skip and Irvin on Allen.
Def figured you were black
Never seen someone get so many brownie points for losing to someone else and that's exactly what happens with allen losing to mahomes. Dude can never be anything more than a statistical fantasy player until he wins on the field in real life.
He cant play defense. Stupid that qbs get credit for wins and losses when the bills defense was full of retirees and 5th stringers with 2 days less rest and pat barely pulled off the win.
@@donkeybuslol stop blaming the defense when your QB had the ball in his hands to take the lead and came up short. Also ZERO points in 4th quarter 😂
@@donkeybusHe outplayed your great hope
@@Elementoftruth nah, Allen played better, its a team game bro you mist be confused with tennis
@@donkeybus you don't realize how dumb it is to claim Allen played better but yet mentioning it's a 'team' game. I couldn't make this level of 'intelligence' if I were paid to 😂😂
Hey kid I hope Allen continues to outplay Mahomes in the postseason because right now he's 0-3 😂
What matters is that he is at his house! 🤣🤣🤣 Love that line!!
Josh fumbled the ball and was lucky our player was dumb to try to scoop the ball instead of jumping on it. Mahomes made no mistake and Josh folded during the pressure. He had three opportunities in the 30 yard line to make a touchdown or get a new first set of downs but he failed.
Mahomes missed two guys wide open in the end zone. Wide open. Stop acting like he’s perfect.
@@nfccturf they didn’t even come close intercepting his pass or him fumbling the ball. I think he is pretty close to perfect when he got us to 6 straight AFC championships.
@@nfccturf
Yeah but Mahomes didn’t put the ball in danger and was overall very smart the whole game. He didn’t make bad decisions. Yeah he overthrew a few times. But he didn’t make any bad decisions. Unlike Allen who can’t handle big moments.
He’s light years ahead of Allen and you know it.
@@nfccturf yes but he win yesterday not josh Allen.
And right b4 that fumble Allen almost threw what may have been a pick 6. 🤦
Saying Josh was the best player on the field is freaking insane man.
That’s sick to say😂
Who was better?
@@0rthogonalMahomes tf 💀
@@0rthogonal17-23 only had the ball for 20 minutes. Every possession had to count.
Mahomes ain't do nothing crazy just made more plays against a defensive with xfl rejects next week gone be the best defense he face since the raiders on Christmas
“The two most talent quarterbacks ever…”
Whoa whoaaa. Mr. Dan “out the back of the endzone” Orlovsky is sitting right there.
Facts RC.... thank you. It's disgusting the way they treat josh allen.
As a Chiefs fan, this is why RC a real one, we all tired of the “well Patrick won… but HOW GOOD IS JOSH ALLEN” give my man the respect he deserves
DAN SAID ALLEN WAS THE BEST PLAYER LMAOOOOO... 1.MAHOMES 2.COOK 3.ALLEN IFYKYK
Fr and if they wanna go there Hardman with the fumble and never getting separation & the chiefs defense at times this game let Patrick down but everytime he still find a way to win
@@Matthew-eq3xi WE GOT WHITE PEOPLE CLAIMING RACISMM NOW????
You're wrong, Alex. Mahomes gets so much respect that losing against him (like Allen repeatedly) apparently does not prevent you to be great. As in, "oh he lost to KC and Mahomes, so it doesn't count as a loss". So funny, those talking heads...
@@jeanfourcade KC is the modern day dynasty they have the best QB and HC the most valuable things there no shame especially when most the great QBs today have good not great coaches
Keep that same energy like you do with the rest of the quarterbacks, Dan. Thank you RC for calling it like it is. Dan Orlovsky has always been on Josh Allen's nuts about he is the best quarterback but like RC said, when it matters the most he doesn't deliver. They went into your house and beat you.😊
This was GREAT discourse! I loved listening to all of them, I sure couldn't argue with any of them! Awesome!
The excuses they make for Allen are incredible 😢
everytime the bills beat the chiefs in the regular season its always about how great josh allen is, then as soon as they get wiped in the playoffs its about the team not being good enough lmao.
everytime its hilarious
This is why people hate Josh Allen. Thank you RC for speaking for the people!
Facts, I hate Josh Allen and it is not his fault. Crazy. He is really good player but these guys never blame him for anything. How many picks does he have again? And his running back is really good and his coaching so he is not doing it himself.
Exactly Josh is a great player but they act like he can do no wrong & this man has continued to go to the couch after KC and they just knew the bills had this game because it was a home game, Patrick wasn’t going to do what he does because he was in Buffalo! Patrick said watch this!
Fact. Nothing makes a star more unpopular then unaccountability.
The story of the game isn't missed opportunities by the Bills, the Chiefs very clearly outplayed them the entire game. Buffalo was *extremely* fortunate it stayed as close as it did in the 4th quarter.
It was a three point game...clearly outplayed them the entire game is a bit of a reach.
Aint that the truth
Had the roles been reversed, and Mahomes was with the ball, down by 3, it would be a TD, not a FG attempt. That's true greatness.
Patrick gets let down by his team sometimes but he seems to overcome 🤷♂️
Imagine that.
Yes cause he gets all the calls like the 4th and 6 phantom defensive pass interference or the 5th down last year
Except when he threw 0 TD and 2 interceptions in the superbowl. One of the worst performances I’ve ever seen in a superbowl vrs Tampa Bay .
@@williamblackburn313Are you serious?????? He performed incredible given the circumstances. He was playing LITERALLY with members from the PRACTICE SQUAD for an OLine against a historically good Tampa Defense. Put things in context.
@@bmajorblack he was also trash in the 9ers Superbowl in which they got robbed by several disgusting no calls, and was outplayed by Hurts last superbowl
Thank you RC for calling out the glazing 😂😂
Even Rex Ryan knew Ryan was dropping facts!
Ryan Clark a savage 🤣
The Chiefs missed more clear scoring opportunities than the Bills. It’s really silly to say Josh was let down as if the Chiefs did not give away the ball twice. Chiefs could’ve run away with the game in the 2nd or 3rd quarter
And bills still could not capitalize and win
@@michaelwilson939Josh allen isn’t that guy point blank period
The Bills ran 78 plays to KC’s 47 which 3 of those were kneel downs. So they ran 44 plays.
Buffalo had the ball 37min
KC had the ball 23 min
Please. Buffalo had ALL THE CHANCES to score and they didn’t. Allen did not come through for them. They only scored 0 points in the last 19 minutes of the game.
And that 2nd down on the final drive. That was all Allen being greedy. And stupid. Why go for the touchdown. And give Mahomes the ball with 2min left.
But it’s all on that darn kicker right? Allen can’t handle big moments. It’s just his thing.
@@jacobpule6390Allen is Kirk Cousins with legs
Yeah, Hardman fumbling I thought was going to be the reason KC lost. Should have beat them by 14-17 points tbh
The way they play the “what if” game for Josh Allen and no one else is crazy. Lamar and Pat would never get this extra glazing
Nope. Especially Lamar.
Pat as it Mahommes? They've been give him the benefit of the doubt all year.
lol mahomes got love all year wdym?
@@darnarxzbecause he’s one of the 3 greatest quarterbacks to ever live, probably the most talented ever. A 2x champ with 2 mvps. The only thing josh allen has done is make the afc championship game… and he lost to mahomes 😂
One deserves the benefit of the doubt, the other is 0-4 against the other great qbs in the afc 🤷
Thank Clark 💯 correct about Allen. Those 3 passes before that FG were unnecessary. He went for a TD throw twice when he had a man wide open underneath
NEVER HAVE I HEARD SO MANY EXCUSES FOR JOSH ALLEN! THE GREATS FIND A WAY TO WIN IN BIG GAMES WHERE THE PRESSURE IS ON THE MOST! ANOTHER GOOD POINT IS THEY MAKE THEIR TEAMMATES BETTER! AS GOOD AS ALLEN IS, HE IS NOT ON PATRICK'S LEVEL WHEN IT MATTERS THE MOST! THIS IS WHAT SEPERATES PLAYERS LIKE JORDAN KOBE,, BRADY AND PATRICK FROM OTHERS! THESE GOATS DON'T MAKE EXCUSES, THEY MAKE THE DIFFERENCE TO WIN!!!
Just here to remind people that Mahomes beat the Bengals, who blew out the Bills in the divisional round, on one leg while throwing the ball to practice squad receivers like Marcus Kemp. This was an awesome game, both QBs were killing it, but Allen needed to find a way to win and he didn't.
Is it Allen’s fault Diggs dropped that perfectly thrown long pass?
While burrow almost beat him without both starting tackles and best interior lineman.
Refs beat the bengals in that game. We’ll never know. Bc without that bogus as late hit call that game goes to OT and we get to see them slug it out but instead refs ruined an amazing game .
@@prestonjohnson3198😢😢😢
@@prestonjohnson3198 Don't forget the refs gifting KC resets in the AFC championship and Superbowl.
Sean McDermott thought they where making a movie giving Damar Hamlin that fake punt 🤣
I couldn’t stop laughing when they did that! What a stupid play call! They lucky harman can’t hold onto the ball to save his life
😂🤣😂😂
Surprised he still playing
10 on the filed, wasn’t a bad call yall just Driding💀
I hope I can someday find someone to love me as much as Dan Orlovsky loves Josh Allen
😂Like fr. It's crazy. I don't remember Dan O with this same energy when Josh was wetting the bed earlier in the season. Even in one game he was calling that DID NOT even have the Bills playing he caught himself praising Allen and then stopped. lol
That point that RC made at the end was 101% on point. When Josh Allen loses it’s always he was the best player on the field, it wasn’t his fault, all that nonsense. But when Patrick Mahomes loses in the exact same fashion, there is no excuses there. They want Josh Allen (a white qb) to be up there with Patrick Mahomes so bad it’s ridiculous. At some point they got to understand that he is not on that level. Keep that same energy every time.
No it's not about race here. It's about markets...they would make twice as much money three times as much money if Allen was playing as Mahomes In Buffalo.
It's all about money.
New York spends way more money then Missouri.
U brought race in and honestly your ignorant for that.
@@theolivetreeking4061whatever man
They killed Lamar all last week for his previous playoff record but Josh losses repeatedly at this stage and is still called great? C'mon Bro. DO & Rex tripping.
And even worse is that Allen keeps losing at home.
Allen won more playoff games than Lamar tho
The disrespect for Mahomes is unreal.
He was 74% completion percentage last night. He evaded the rush, made incredible throws, and won the game.
Who disrespected him? But also I don’t really care about his comepletion percentage when 56% of all yards was to an RB and 67% of all yards were caught behind the line lol, so also use ur eyes it’s not just stats
where did you get those numbers. did you watch the game?
@@kylewade8704
Played against 5 backups
Mahomes is the best and the second best is a long way down
@@kylewade870480% of Josh’s passes were begin the LOS, and the chiefs defense was refusing to tackle.
Thank you RC!!!!! Finally someone has the guts to say something… “if you’re not first… you’re last”
Not a huge RC fan, but he is spot on, this one
As a packers fan, I remember so many instances where Aaron Rodgers played great games and was let down by the defense and the media crushed him for not “Stepping up” every single time. RC is right the greats find ways to win great games and don’t get excuses made for them. The romance between the media and Josh Allen needs to be studied.
Aaron used to get a lot of excuses as well. Especially when he would lose in the playoffs
Please Aaron Rodgers career in the playoff is a let down. Never played against the heavyweights in the AFC and only won one Super Bowl. I think Jordan love will win more super bowls than Aaron Rodgers
@mikeserrano6548 lmao this why you can't take football fans serious. One thing Rodgers never did was something as boneheaded as What Love did vs the 49ers
Tom
Brady has played awful in some games and his defense or kicker has bailed him out and he still gets credit because of one incredible drive to set them up for the win.
Unfortunately quarter basket credit for the wins as well as the losses, despite how they play
Tony romo the biggest one lol
I want everyone watching this video, to give R.C a thank you for standing up against those Josh Allen apologists. Can you even imagine if that was Lamar Jackson who won a MVP. We need to call these people out, look at the end how the host go out of his way to squeeze Josh Allen great. THANK YOU R.C
@nuniorj.baptite624 you absolutely nailed it. Absolutely nailed it
Thank you R.C❤️
Because Allen is the better QB.. Its the fact Racist Clark and yourself will never give a white man anything over another black. now go back to planet dumb dumb.
and the Josh Allen love continues. Nobody can get more love out of losses than this guy. Next year he'll be the MVP favorite for this loss (similar to the last time he lost to Mahomes). Other players might face some criticism for almost costing his team the game with a silly fumble or for throwing a forward pass when you're 8 yards past the line but not Josh! No one has ever been more let down by his teammates than Josh. ridiculous.
@@user-bv9yy4rc8z that's a very nice portrayal of Josh's season (I think it's 51 TDs, not 52 with 44 regular season and 7 playoff) but that Tua was picked over him for the Pro Bowl kind of shows you're glossing over some things.
it's early in the week and maybe this will change as we get closer to gameday but I've already heard far more Josh Allen love than Lamar and Lamar's team is still alive and he's about to be named MVP.
RC had me literally laughing out loud in my office when Rex asked him this (10:31) question. 🤣🤣🤣
Ryan Clark standing on business!
I love Clark's face after the TD to INT ratio Ryan gives..."except behind Patrick Mahomes". Like duh that is what Clark is trying to tell them to prove his point - Mahomes is on another level.
Apparently
And there's only one Mahomes, so the Bills should be grateful for josh who is the next tier down.
yeah yeah and Mahomes without Kelce is NOTHING.. you need all to got in perfectly !!! no Kelce trust me Mahomes no SB
@@guyleclerc7324 What is Travis Kelce elite at? What would he be considered elite at, relative to players who are actually elite at that particular skill? Who's more of a threat, Tyreek or Travis Kelce?
@@guyleclerc7324if my aunt had nuts she'll be my uncle fck it's Mahomes is the best in the league currently
RC is the truth
He be cooking 🔥🔥🔥
Josh gettin’ some of the Lamar Jackson love from RC. This is the incredulous standard that they hold Lamar to but no one else. Everything is put into its proper context for Josh but “ it is what it is” when you speak about Lamar. “He can’t win like this.” “Running QB will never make it to the Super Bowl” “He is inaccurate “ Yadda yadda yadda about Lamar but this is actually true about Joshy boy.😂 Cancun on 3!….1…2…Goodnight Bills Mafia
I think Dan is in love with Allen at this point he doesn’t see a thing wrong with the guy lol
It’s so obvious
Completely agree with RC. Back in 2022 Playoffs Josh Allen with the #1 Defenses loses to Pat Mahomes with 13 sec left and the #1 Defense. We dont hear people talk about how great Mahomes is but how great Josh Allen is. Josh Allen needs to be held accountable. Hes the next Phillip Rivers.
Josh had the lead?The defense failed and coaching….
@@danielventura8118They didn’t “fail”, Mahomes was better. Mahomes makes winning moments happen, Allen doesn’t. The excuses are getting old. He’s a great player, but NOT AS clutch as other greats in the playoffs.
@@ikewrizzle Do you understand how ridiculous you sound saying a qb who got his team the lead with 13 seconds left in the game doesn't make winning moments. Seriously it's just intellectually dishonest. I don't care who it is. no defense should lose a game with 13 seconds left on the clock and the full length of the field. That is literally not on Josh he does not play defense. He made the play that 99.9 percent of other teams in nfl history win off of. The defense literally failed. How did they not fail giving up a td drive in 13 seconds?! That doesn't even make one bit of sense. How did Josh Fail when he gives the lead and is not even on the field?!!!!!! Make it make sense!
Allen is Peyton, Manning first 6 years 1 conference finals and won superbowl in 8th year!
"We don't hear people talk about how great Mahomes is"
You obviously watch literally zero sports shows and are just making that up.
I don't know a single pundit that says Allen is definitively better than Mahomes.
It sounds like you just don't like anyone getting credit but Mahomes for some reason, but Mahomes gets praise ALL THE TIME
I feel you Ryan! Tell them to keep the same energy they had for Lamar!
The blaming the defense in defense of Josh Allen is wild, how great do you expect your defense to perform when they're on the field the entire game? This recent loss to the Chiefs is the ONLY exception for the losses the Bills have suffered during Allens tenure as starting QB for the Bills. Time of possession plays a HUGE role in the playoffs especially going against elite QBs like Mahomes and Burrow because you don't want those guys taking control of the game and its pace. The playoff loss to Cinci: Bills TOS- 26:06, Bengals TOS- 33:54. The 2022 playoff loss to the Chiefs: Bills TOS- 27:37, Chiefs- 36:38, The 2021 Playoff loss to the Chiefs: Bills TOS- 28:51, Chiefs- 31:09. YES you can say the defense isn't getting off the field quick enough to give their team TOS but good luck like I said against other elite QBs like Mahomes and Burrow who are very good at managing the game and the clock. The Bills punted the ball 4 times compared to Cincis 2 in their playoff loss, in 2021 against the chiefs they punted 3 times compared to KC 1 time, in 2022 playoff loss to KC the Bills punted 4 times compared to KC 2, in the recent playoff loss to KC the Bills punted 2 times compared to KC 1 time. I'm not here for the excuses anymore and Ryan Clark is right, he's not the reason they're losing the games, but he is contributing as to why they haven't won those games. In every game Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes has won in the playoffs they led in TOS and every game they've lost in the playoffs they did not...so don't tell me it's an overinflated irrelevant statistic when its clearly not. Stop the excuses for Allen, I like the guy but get realistic.
Preach RC!!! The team lost so they didn’t do enough. Hold all QB’s to the same standard. He worth the money but no worth the criticism of being the leader of the team.
Because it ain’t Josh’s fault. RC has no point here what so ever.
We hold Dak to the same standard and we ain’t finna switch it up for Josh. It’s times teams lose and it’s not on the QB and we will blame the QB so Josh ain’t finna get no passes lol
@@justinjenkins4893Josh played way better than Dak in the playoffs this year.
So when are they going to mention all the points KC defenses have given up in years prior but KC still won?
💯👊my brother I was thinking about that this morning ppl make as if pat had this elite defense every year
Exactly, Josh has had a top 10 defense every year he's started and still can't get wins
Ryan please leave ESPN and these clowns alone bro
Logical thought is not allowed.
This is great! I love when they're not trying to sound all cool for TV and just go at it constructively. I'm with Ryan though, at some point you need to elevate your team to be considered one of the greats. If playing well alone was it then that word will have no meaning in sports.
Background on "superstar" Ryan Terry Clark (born October 12, 1979) is an American former professional football player who was a safety in the National Football League (NFL). He played college football for the LSU Tigers, and was signed by the New York Giants as an undrafted free agent in 2002. Clark also played for the Pittsburgh Steelers and for the Washington Redskins. He won a Super Bowl ring with the Steelers in Super Bowl XLIII, and made a Pro Bowl in 2011.
Now post Dan’s background