I Got Pokimane Banned...
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Honestly shocked at how people are blaming Ludwig for their reaction streams. They know full well that what their doing but instead of understanding the consequences of their actions they use Lud as a scapegoat because he talked about it before.
his friends are probably just joking that Lud caused this, it was inevitable that companies would start enforcing their copyright
None of the streamers are blaming him it’s always just fans lol
@@Xloverse and then their stans takes things too seriously
@@4purs They aren't blaming him but saying that he snitched insinuates that it wouldn't happen without him because nobody would notice the biggest streamer on twitch watching copywritten shows on the main page on twitch which is ridiculous. Their stans will go after Ludwig and blame him for everything that happens where the people doing that shit are the only ones to blame, not someone who asked them to chill and not be so brazen with it.
@@4purs hasan seemed genuinely mad lol
I respect you for being unapologetic in your opinions. I totally agree with your ideas about the content ID system. There needs to be a middle ground.
and i respect you for maining ganyu
I like your name
I can't people are blaming you, for something that was going to obviously happen. People (especially streamers) who are blaming Lugwig for predicting the obvious are either ignorant of internet history, especially CZcams's history with that Viacom lawsuit, or trying to blame someone else for their own mistakes.
Completely disappointed with these people.
The zoomers were probably like in 4th grade actually doing things outside when the last adpocalypse happened vs now being at home in middle/high school always watching influencers and then wondering why they have social anxiety lol
@@KingR098 the same thing happened with music not to long ago
@@KingR098 You do know zoomers started in late 90s right?
what streamers are calling out lud? /srs
@@l.bakker7563 thank you Mr. Pedantic, next you're going to say Atrioc isn't actually a boomer lmao. no shit, people refer to anyone over 30 a boomer and like anyone under 18 a zoomer nowadays on the internet I wasn't being literal.
HE FINALLY CHANGED THE DESCRIPTION LINK WE DID IT
What?
@@saikobanters4323 it used to link to his twitch till yesterday lol
lol
lol
Lud if you see this you should change the top link to the extension download
im so proud of him finally showing every other streamer who's boss
HELLO!!! I want to spend time with celebrities. Just kidding. GAGAGAGAGA! I only want to spend time with my two girlfriends and record videos for CZcams with the 3 of us. OH YEAH. Don't hate me for living the best life, dear o
I love ur montages
@@AxxLAfriku what???
@@or3o043 This AxxL dude just randomly appears in comment sections advertising his channel in the weirdest comments ever, to get attention I assume.
@@AxxLAfriku oh, gross…it’s you.
Mad respect Ludwig. Stand your ground. Update while sick lol. Be you, King
Lol
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"Sick"
People are always going to blame you for your opinion, especially when its not in line with what they want. Whether or not your friends knew it was a possible occurrence, their fans will come for you when they get the scent that you may have dissed "THEIR" streamer. Literally, this "my streamer" thing. You can sit here and decide not to do creative content because people might blame you but honestly that's in the same vein as not failing your children because it would hurt their feelings. They need the lesson. No one has power over someone they watch. No amount of money says you can control "your" streamer OR their friends. Much love Ludwig
exactly. it’s funny because when he made that video about the hot tub meta, amouranth and Indiefox both got banned right after. i think Lud’s videos actually have pull lol
@@David-lf6rr He doesn't have that much pull. People aren't watching him with a finger above the "ban x trend" button. He calls it like he sees it, he's just not against putting it up in some attempt to help without being the "x is cancelled" stigma.
@@shiggles6638 yeah i’m not “blaming” ludwig, but i think there’s a chance that he did play a part in it happening as quickly as it did, which is okay
@@David-lf6rr Then it sounds like you're putting "some" of the "blame" on Ludwig. I just disagree.
I would think they would be more aware of what's happening on twitch then how a CZcamsrs video calls it out
Everytime that Ludwig makes a take in most twitch issues. He gets someone ban. He's too powerful.
I'm trying to take Lud seriously, but its hard when his ass is one ascot away from being Fred from Scooby-Doo.
Now that you mention it, had to do a side-by-side. Hopefully, nobody links him to an actual costume, his hair is almost on point as is.
It _would_ mean that he has a deep, extensive knowledge of traps, so he obviously understands what the content creators are walking into.
Seeing the writing on the wall and speaking up about it to warn the wider streaming community isn't being a narc. It's just being insightful and mature. This is good stuff, Lud. Don't back down.
When ludwig talked about how hot tub streamers and asmr and shit were getting out of hand people were all "let's go Ludwig, saying what needs to be said" or something. Then ludwig has another take that makes 100% sense along a similar strain and now it's all "Ludwig is a narc wah wah my favorite streamer said so" like ok man ur not 12 years old
Ludwig is literally the "Why are you Booing me? Im right" meme in real life.
Openly breaking and push it to the max is just horrible for everyone else.
Rules get tightend, because people openly break laws and there are no actions. So people get worse and worse.
The problem lies with the streamers that abuse the system to the max just to see when it's enough. And it could have already been much worse with copyright claims. It is just a matter of time, if things don't change.
this is such a good take
very good take
@@loganmorris2793 b. CD
This is a terrible take. You are basically saying breaking the rules is fine just dont break them too much or the rules get tighter. if everyone is breaking or bending the rules then the rules are the problem.
@@jakenicholson9712 the rules aren't the problem if you're literally stealing the content of a corporation and they're enforcing their rights to something of theirs you're making money off with no benefit to them
I'm honestly surprised how few other people have said that they expect Twitch to implement a live Content ID system like CZcams, like Charlie in his video for example said he didn't think that's what would happen. I've always felt like that was not only inevitable, but at this point probably the best case scenario aside from an impossible "nobody gets in trouble and then everyone clapped" situation
I think what Charlie mean is the content ID system will be implemented on Twitch if Twitch streamer keep doing that. And unlike CZcams, Twitch cannot say they can't control those people who streaming those stuff.
Edit: what i love from Charlie's take is, almost all Twitch streamer panicking when their stream and VOD got deleted because copyrighted music, but they also do stuff that will make Twitch go back to that path.
FYI Toast said in that stream absolutely do not blame Ludwig.
Yeah, it's just their fans doing that.
LUDWIG TALKED ABOUT CHUGGAACONROY!!!! my day has been made. Chuggaa really deserves so much more than he has. He is, and always will be, one of the most important people to the online gaming content landscape.
AeonAir in the Ludwig comments, good stuff
The unsung hero of let’s play/ streaming games. We salute Chuggaa.
Factsssss
Chuggaconroy the realest nigga on the block, still waiting for him to play spirit tracks on the channel tho
chuggaaconroy was making the highest production pokemon lets plays a decade before the rest of youtube moved away from just 'watch me play'
This is the most BASED take. Chadwig was spitting truths. Especially when he calls out the creators.
Serious Ludwig hits so much harder because he's usually acting like a doofus clown for content on stream.
@@WanderTheNomad that's my streamer 😭
seems like Lud is the only content creator who is actually aware that this is what every other media industry goes through. There is a reason why we haven't seen a simpsons cameo on spongebob (might have happened idk) Likelyhood is that streamers will ignore this vid but good on you for being mindful
not just lud. Charlie, who already realizes this, and Toast, who set out to push it to the limit to bring attention to it, both realize this goes on and want to bring attention to it, albeit in 3 different ways
I love how Ludwig talk about what happens in the streaming and content creations world and he knows so more than all of us
this is exactly why ludwig is and has been a good creator. Having actual views and defending them bc they are right and not giving in to people blaming him for something he didn’t cause. good on you.
This is my favorite Ludwig channel/content. Just real talk straight to the camera, not a lot added to make it "interesting" (because it already is)
Not the sad aang right now lmaooo
@@TheZeagon It's been my picture for over a year :P
@@deep_cuts2019 i assumed so, still funny as fuck to scroll onto lmao
You look like your a moistcritical enjoyer, not that its bad, its just he basically does the same
I'm never in the loop with current Media Issues but this was very well made for informing those like me. Thanks Lud, Much Love!
Well put Lud. I like these new style of videos on this channel. Kind of shows a new side of you, and it’s very interesting.
This is some grade-A internet journalism man, I really appreciate the level headed takes.
this is like a cross between the music dmca situation and the hot tub streamers and both times twitch didn't really do a great job solving the problem
i watch like 2 people on twitch anymore and neither of them got into watching TV on stream so it's been very surreal to experience this entirely via ludwig's responses to what's happening lol
i will say though, i think the vod experience is fine, the ludwig vods channel is legit the best vods channel i know of
Same and then I open CZcams and it's 5 different masterchef react videos lmao
I'm so glad you're talking about this and I'm shocked that people on twitch haven't realized this already.
When I used to stream casually for friends, I remember someone coming into my chat, saying that I should play music on stream and asking why I wasn't. I told them because I don't have the copyright to any music, and I could see this being a big deal for twitch because how much copyright wasn't respected. And then a couple months later, XQC was banned for playing copyrighted music. And I thought that would've been the moment people realized. But it wasn't. I'm hoping this will be, because there's a lot of really great content creators on twitch, but they're getting lazy and I'm worried that they'll be in for a really rude awakening once big companies fully realize what's happening and take action against them.
Also react content has always been weird for me. I've always seen it as copyright infringement because most of it is. When the series finale of gravity falls came out, I wasn't able to watch it, so I watched a reaction channel. The video started with the guy complaing that Disney was wrongfully taking his videos down, but then he just sat there, didn't say a word. About halfway through I forgot I was even watching a reaction channel because I just didn't notice him. The only thing that gave it away was that some words were backwards.
Before poki's ban, I saw a lot of people complaing that people like poki would pause too much while reacting, which while it might not be true, to any outside looks like that the viewers are only there to watch the copyrighted material.
First Amouranth now Poki, Ludwig going after the women of twitch
Qt next?
I think we can settle for an even middle ground, boss baby watches Ludwig
LMAO so they are blaming Ludwig for something that is their own fault? Actions have consequences as Ludwig has always said. But it's not his fault that they watched copyrighted material.
It's usually just their fans blaming Ludwig because a lot of them have zero understanding of the world.
I feel like with how big reacting to TV shows was getting, it was inevitable that this situation would happen. Twitch has had copyright issues in the past and streamers getting banned and striked was inevitable. What's worse is that there is no perfect solution that pleases streamers, viewers, AND companies. But Ludwig being blamed for these streamers having action taken against them is just dumb, they put themselves in a risky scenario reacting to these videos, and it was to be expected that sooner or later something was going to happen with it. We saw the same thing play out with the hot tub meta, it was well known and it was something that was eventually something happened to those streamers as well. Ludwig being one of the only people actively calling it out when reacting was getting big might have influenced somewhat, but that seems unlikely. I don't necessarily think that he's all that much bigger than some of these streamers actively reacting. It just seems like he came in right before action was taken that made him the scapegoat for these viewers who want to blame someone for their favorite streamers getting in trouble.
God, the chuggaaconroy name drop. I remember those times when he was battling that shit for a long time
So surreal hearing about Emile from someone outside TRG circle
You're a smart guy Lud. I never watched streamers before, but when I discovered you, you became the only one I cared to watch. You show more than just a streaming persona and drop bits of the real you, insight and wisdom that's interesting as well as the fun content. You're right about the copyright claiming issue. It's bad on CZcams, and you're only trying to wave a flag, sound the alarms to your fellow streamers about the reality of the other side of the fence where copyright claiming is big league. So, if they don't appreciate your efforts to warn them, then don't mind it any more than they care to listen and understand. You can't help them all. Also, if you go back to twitch after youtube, yet again, you'll be the only streamer I watch on that platform 😂
Idk man seems parasocial
I have enjoyed these copyright discussions over the years from many creators over many periods of times. Sadly I predict less than year or bit over a year that Twitch got before it gets bad. I hope one day copyright gets solved in these platforms, but the future will decide what can be and what can happen.
I’m so glad I got to watch most of that stream live I usually watch VODs
this is so informative honestly
at this point i just want a ludwig pod cast based on dmca, copyright and stuff like that
Just got off of XQCs stream. Mans was watching Hunter X Hunter 💀💀💀
Lud it sucks that you’re getting so much undeserved hate and being used as a scape goat but good job not letting it get to you
Good takes all around Lud. Wasn’t expecting the Chugga name drop though which was cool to hear
1:10
"You can't have it both ways, it's either only kids watch me or Fox and Viacom execs are watching me"
Bold of you to assume that Fox and Viacom execs aren't kids
Tell me why Ludwig looks like he’s ready to solve mysteries and wear an orange scarf☠️
He’s not to blame for ‘telling on people’. Streamers actively say that they know they are poking the bear
I'm liking just as interaction with the vid bc I think its a great video tt lud
I understand he is your friend and that’s absolutely valid. It was just eye opening to me when Toast saw Poki was banned and his initial response was “I just sorta hoped it wasn’t one of my friends”. This may be me reading between the lines of something not there. But I took this as “I hoped Twitch would stop smaller creators doing it instead of me and my friends because we get the views”. I think everyone not just Twitch has lost their morality in holding others accountable, which I get, it’s a crazy world that doesn’t reward community. But yeah. I’m glad you stood your ground even if it ruffles a few feathers.
completely agree, that really rubs me the wrong way
To be fair, Poki is also part of OTV. Like, they lived at OTV house together. I don’t think he would’ve said that if it was XQC or Hassan or someone else. They all know the bans are coming. It’s just a matter of who it’s going to be before there’s a live detection system
odd way of twisting his words. even if that happened, there would be some sort of backlash whether its smaller or larger streamers lol and im sure at least toast is aware of that. definitely a stretch
I don't even watch the guy and wow you're really reaching here.
lud, honestly your probably at an advantage here. you are having to learn what does and doesn't fly not with the strict copyright rules of CZcams now, so by the time twitch has implemented those rules probably a little different but still strict i imagine) you will have already gotten used to it. hell you might have some tips for twitch streamers lol.
id be cool if there was a website or app that streamers could use that would allow you to watch copyright content with ads. it could connect to the stream and process the number of people watching as actual viewers of the copyright content, and maybe take a small percentage out for bots and such. then the ads that play over the vid would pay the copyright content creators the amount they would have payed if that many people had actually watched the vid on there own.
maybe code in a system that allows certain ads to only play for streams with smaller viewership so they can have an idea of how much they will be paying rather then suddenly having to pay for 50,000 streams on their ad.
this lets the streamers watch what they want and have fun and the original content creators get paid. idk I'm spit ballin here lol
wish i knew how to make that happen... it would take a lot of reaching out to companies and stuff. maybe advertise it as a new way to make money for the movies/tv show/ anime creator. you know, make them come to you or whatever. idk
Thatd be incredibly difficult to setup but a pretty cool idea i havent heard before.
There should be a system that CZcams or or twitch pays these companies a certain percentage percentage each year to use the copyrighted videos and be ok.
I feel like there is a very easy solution to this. Well maybe not really easy, but if youtube could just provide a service to "watch with friends" so that you essentially have each individual account counting towards a view and watch time on the video then there shouldnt be any problems. The streamer wouldnt be broadcasting the show that they are watching, rather it would be viewed by multiple people just at a syncd time. One person gets master control and can pause the video for everyone else. Anyone can pause their own video and return to the "live" time when they want. Idk, its kind of like what Michael Reeves wanted for Spotify but for youtube. The entire issue around copyright claims is broadcasting a video to 30,000 people while the creator only gets a single view and watch time for it thus they dont get paid for those people. You could even set it up so that you have to pay a small fee to use the service and people would probably pay for it.
Excited to hear that there’s potentially more online lore videos coming up and it wasn’t just a one time thing.
I remember when Mumbo Jumbo’s intro music was copyrighted even though the portion of the song did not match and the song was an origin that had some bases in a different song but the author of the song had permission to base
I remember the game stuff being a big deal for lets players on youtube, since alot of games that were the subject of lets plays were story heavy so watching someone play through the story almost removes the value of buying the game yourself since you're getting 80% of the experience for free watching someone else play through. Game devs weren't super happy about that since sure some might get interest and buy the game themselves to play but alot were watching it all the way through and not looking to pay a cent to the actual game developers cause why pay 60 bucks for a game you saw the entire story for just to 'support' since theres little value to play through what you watched, certainly not a 60 dollar price tag worth, so they were effectively losing them customers.
CZcamss copyright claim system is extremely abused, pewds had his own original song copy claimed by a group saying they were claiming it on his behalf and he couldn't even dispute it, despite them having no affiliation with the group, mind you its the original song on his own channel, hes just losing the money to some random group for his 100% own creative work.
But for twitch moistcritical also made a video on this the streamers are being irresponsible, poking the bear which could have real bad repercussions with it coming in a more extreme form then what was originally planned. Cause it could turn into the death of react andys with youtube or any other video outlet being off the table for stream, which is a reality I don't think most channels can live through since most big streamers fill gaps with youtube react content, now you get to sit there trying to make awkward conversation with chat while you sit in a queue, just chatting streams would fall apart.
Videos like this is the main reason why I like Ludwig. He's probably the most honest creator I've seen and he's kinda funny ( he's secretly a weeb tho) can't stroke him to hard
Do still make that Online Lore video. It would be interesting to see representations of what you are talking about.
Great vid lud, keep it up
Proud of you for using your voice to inform, help and give warning to those who are trying to build a good creator career. Those who get banned will learn it was their own actions that did it. 👌🏼
This honestly should’ve happened a lot earlier, they cannot blame Ludwig for what the top streamers on twitch who are always on the front page, with thousands of viewers do. This honestly should take down some of their egos, let’s be honest they really thought they were hiding it well by inverting the show, having dub on and naming it backwards. With the amount of viewers they had watching they should’ve been scared of getting sued, plus if your gonna watch anime, at least do actual anime from some Asian country, (not just japan since there have been some fire Chinese animations recently) like if you were to watch animes from Japan and did the name flipping and shit, no one would’ve been caught, but they were watching master chief, the last air bender, watching American shows on an American website.
Like if they watched some random shit from Japan and had an English romanization of the title they could probably watch forever without getting caught
I’m definitely surprised toast wasn’t banned first, Naruto is probably the most recognized anime in America
The big streamers who started this will never stop unless they see meaningful consequences for their actions. IMO unless they see at minimum a 1-month ban, they'll never stop doing this shit and making it worse for smaller creators.
I think Avatar was the first one flagged because it’s made by an American production company and owned by Nickolodeon - Toast and Ludwig were talking about it during bro vs bro the other day.
@@Kralysk or much much worse, some company takes up civil lawsuit action against them. All the top streamers will collectively shit their pants if one of these corporations decide to take just one of them to court, which they every legal right to do so. They'd be especially fucked bc they'd have zero defense; what they did is literally public, accessible, and they cannot deny doing it.
you should really do more online lore i like it and want to see more
I respect you and your message man. Best of luck in the coming days.
Okay, objectively speaking, the video was tame and wasn't calling anyone in specific out, the creators involved knew they were playing with fire. You cant play stupid games and get mad when you win stupid prizes.
Short and sweet, it absolutely isn’t Ludwig’s fault. Anyone who did the infringement is 100% responsible for what they did, and do deserve punishment.
Blessed recognition on the forefather of streaming games and Let's Plays, Chuggaconroy.
Wow lud showed them how to do it again. Watch people still call him jealous while helping them do it as safe as possible AGAIN
For this current issue, I'd say that a lot of twitch streamers watching master chef without adding anything were straight up stealing content. However DMCA was written by boomers in 1998. The internet as we know it didn't even exist back then. People and companies that abuse DMCA should be held legally and financially liable for falsely claiming content that is fair use. Also industries need to realize that having reasonably priced accessible licenses for content creators is a good thing. Most gaming companies (sans Nintendo) are now wise to the fact that content creators are great for publicity and revenue for their products in the long run but other industries still seem ignorant to the fact (ie. tiktok song trends boosting spotify numbers or Toei taking down Totally Not Mark).
Thinking that Twitch wasn't aware and only found out after Ludwig's vid is laughable
It’s interesting to hear about you talk about this topic, as insaneintherainmusic just retired from content creating and part of the reason he gave in his video was fear of copyright problems just like what you’re talking about
Hope in the nearest feature we see companies reaching out to streaming website such as twitch to make deals that allow content creators too react too.
I personally believe there is much potential and good businesses to go for here.
I kidding you not, I knew nothing bout master chef until i watched few streamers watched it - been hooked ever since.
Big respect for just calmly re-explaining the whole situation. I would have been so whinny and start fucking slurring and tell these goddam nuthead that i was just trying to make concern of the situation before it have gone south bound and never returning...
It would actually be hilarious if these ceo type were actually watching Ludwig for tips on how to enforce copyright laws
The ending killed me good one dud🤣🤣🤣
Music and videos within a video should be a separate data stream. This way you could mute only the music that infringes on copyright or easily replace background music with something else.
That obviously doesn't work for the example of irl streams where music is recorded by the same mic the streamer uses to speak into, but it would work for 99% of all streams and youtube videos.
I personally don't enjoy reaction streams. I find that rarely the streamer "adds value" and I as the viewer feel scammed because I support and enable someone who can't be bothered to put in a basic effort despite all the money they make off of that.
I find it very ironic that seemingly every streamer always talks about "making great content" and then this is the "meta"
Let's be real you're primarily watching avatar and the streamer in the background is in the background
Agreed. My watch time of streamers decreased a lot once they started stream reacting. If I wanted to watch any of these shows, I would do so on my own. Unpopular opinion but 🤷
It's good to see he is fine after getting covid
Well yeah lol
He said the worst of the symptoms have already passed. He's double vaxxed too, he'll be fine
What I find interesting is that stuff like this has been around for years already, especially in terms of anime react content. The different is however a lot of the people that do anime react, or even manga content generally cover/censor what they're viewing, meaning the best experience is to still watch it yourself. There's varying degrees of this of course, some people show more, some people show less, but in the end they are making an attempt to cover it. This situation meanwhile is just blatantly showing the show like you're watching it yourself, no need to go get a better experience on the streaming platform its on, its right there. So, one way encourages people to watch the content legally on another platform at the same time to get the best experience, and the other (in the video) doesn't, which I think is the issue.
Companies should do a shared view system. For example, if you watch a video from another platform, it should increase the view of the reacted video, and maybe if the react is making money, it will get money depending on the clout, time of the video (ratio between creators), and other criteria. But I understand that there is some cybersecurity issue when connecting different companies (it could lead to ddos, and forth), and even if there were not any issues, it may be more work than necessary. But it would be a great thing if all companies implemented that. It would evolve the way we watch content, and benefit other creators and companies.
I seriously have mad respect for Ludwig making content while sick with COVID. It's an important topic to touch on and is extremely important for everyone who wants to stream or watch streams moving forward. Twitch has been less intense that YT in implementing copyright systems and unfortunately the leniency won't last forever. Pretty rock solid vid.
I hope the streamers get banned, because man, when they come back after their suspension I know it will be funny and usually making fun of the company that banned them is great content. I usually don’t watch pokimane but I’ll watch a bit of her return stream because I think it’ll be entertaining
The name drop on Chuggaaconroy
Somehow you popped up on my CZcams a month ago. Seem like a real life guy, same age range. And now what you said may happen, has actually come to fruition.
As Winston would say "Rules… without them we live with the animals" .
Bro dressed like Fred from scooby doo
Honestly I just love how much Ludwig cares for the streaming landscape, if he was mad or jealous he’d word it some other way, and he did a video so he just cares for all of us and that’s something you barely get 💪🏽
what a great dude this man is
You predicted it 🥴
Live detection of material was something they had back in the Justin TV days to detect Family Guy and etc.
damn, didnt expect you here lol. then why do you think they stopped doing it? just to argue that moderation isnt their duty?
Heck discord has live content detection on their screen share service now.
@@manaspradhan8041 They stopped because copyright holders didn't sue them. The moment that could happen, they will have it again.
@@0106johnny and they won't get sued for not having all the other times? What are you talking about lol, they have clearly changed their strategy on this
@@manaspradhan8041 Their "strategy" is not so much a strategy and more hoping that copyright holders are just happy with DMCA takedowns of VODs.
not in this car as a meme is honestly so good that it happened because it allows the meme to live on and really lets people see how far the claims are going to go
as a big Tom Scott fan I love your references and credit to him haha
Devin Nash's video on this subject is absolutely brilliant. It gets really heated and the possibilities for a huge shit-show, not only for Twitch streamers, but also for Twitch as a company are absolutely wild. I think people are blissfully unaware of the ramifications of copyright law - and there could be a culling of intense proportions in the coming months if these React Andy's aren't more careful. Appreciate you calling out this lazy content, as well as taking the bullet for the ignorant streamers and their even more ignorant audiences. The whole "jealousy" argument is just so childish and willfully immature. Don't let 'em get you down, king! 👑
They can be glad we live in a world where copyright holders usually don't sue people anymore, because it takes too much time and money.
my main issue with these streamers watching thigns is its not like htey are just reacting to a funny or weird 3 min clip from the episode, they are watching ENTIRE episodes of shows which has been against twitch TOS for years. And they know they are breaking the rules but they dont care becuase like you said its easy content for now, but they just continue to make thigns harder for smaller streamers who may not have the money or ability to do some of the things bigger streamers do to get around these rules
Ludwig be Cosplaying as Fred Jones from Scooby Doo
Here would be my solution to this issue or a way around it tell your viewers to open a new tab and he will set a timmer (or showcase the time which the eps is at) and when the timer hits zero hit play (the streamer doesnt show the tv show etc. More complicated but if people want that content u gotta work around it) of the show for the viewers to hit play also (not only it gets around it but the viewer will be able to get the audio from the show to know which point the streamer is reacting) downside streamer cant pause show to talk ablut something otherwise it ruins whole mechanism in place
someone is so gonna get sued. idk y streamers r thinking that a 2-day ban is the worst thing that could happen to them. they're distributing copyrighted content w/out authorization, which is a felony if they are ever prosecuted criminally. And it's the copyrighted content of large media companies who are very protective of their ip, so it's even worse.
Preach it lud, play stupid games win stupid prizes. Just because you can abuse a system for your gain doesnt mean you should!
Ludwig always has a great, intelligent take on issues to do with streaming. I always find myself well informed about things that are going on.
I was in stream when this happened while you were doing bro vs bro and I remember you saying
“pokimane got banned? That’s tough”
Then immediately changing the subject
Not reacting is a good solution too but its not like that FIXES anything sadly
React content is (imo) inherently a bad thing to do and that sucks cos its fun sometimes! But too much weight on your car will flatten the tires faster
Theres a limit, and no one is respecting it cos its easier not too :/
Honestly I kinda like the move to CZcams cause it forces Ludwig to do more cool, and interesting streams. I don’t really like react content so I’m so down for Armageddon to come to twitch.
I love the fact that Ludwig pauses tiktok time and shares stories... Cause his storytelling is amazing
I think what people forget is that there are families and creators behind those shows. From the riggers for the lighting, to the touchup artists in animated shows, to the marketing managers, to the poor secretary or stage hand running their asses off trying to make sure the whole production team still gets a decent meal when things get overwhelming. In shows that have completed, the artists, who often worked long, long hours to get a single scene completed, are still receiving royalties. If you like what you're watching, it's important to remember, when there's no money going back to these copyrighted materials, those are the people who are really hurt. Not the big companies that still make millions off of merchandising, commercials, and food/drink partnerships, but the sometimes forgotten people who help bring these productions to life.
I do agree with you and Tom Scott, though- when it's something in the background, when it is truly transformative, when something clearly isn't the center of attention in a video (such as the wedding song example), the system is broken. I never, NEVER stream without making sure the music is copyright-free. I have sent copious amounts of friends awesome, copyright free music, and I've used a Humble Bundle to purchase a 200-piece library of CRF music and sounds. I love the concept of reaction channels, but I think there is also a limit for that, as well. Not enough people are actually GOOD act reacting, anyway, and if that's all you can really do, then is it really talent you're bringing to the table or are you making money off of someone else's hard work? I'm in a split mind about this (there are some AMAZING creators out there who have made incredible careers from being reaction channels, but it's because they, themselves, are interesting and entertaining, even without the video they're reacting to).
I always try to play devil's advocate because hate mobs happen so often that they forget that there are people who are hurt that the overaching issue doesn't allow them to see and the people in the background get trampled in the fray. Not everything can be clear-cut and this is an example of that.
4:50 that's a false equivalence.
The main experience of a game is the actual experience of playing it while the actual product of a movie is just the visuals and sound which can be recreated on streaming sites.
Playing call of duty is very different from watching someone else do it but watching a TV show/movie on Netflix is more or less the same as watching some overpaid desk jockey watch it with you.
At the end of the day morals and opinions aside reacting to copyrighted content is illegal and people need to be careful
I want more of these kinds of videos
We always love Chuggaconroy shout-outs. OG let’s play legend