The Most CONFUSING NHL Rules
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Can you name a confusing rule?
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goalie interference, the refs and the league dont even know what it means anymore!
The rule where a hand pass causes a goal. example, Morgan Riellys "hand pass" to a maple leafs player for a goal
The rule where the puck can't be whacked in by a high stick. WHG DOES HEIGHT OF A STICK ABOVE THE CROSSBAR MATTER?
I totally agree that rule 63.5 is stupid.
Roger Nielsen was a great innovator. Thinking outside the box isn't trolling. Poking holes in badly constructed rules is common in just about everything. He was also one of the first, if not the first, coaches to use player metrics in his game plans.
and regular use of video gave him the name Captain Video.
A coach of mine when I was about 18 once exploited a loophole so well that the officials were pretty impressed. In a spring league tournament, my coach was coaching both my team and another team in a separate tournament. One game, I got into a fight, which is an automatic game misconduct and one-game suspension. I was eligible to play for his other team, but was not going to and the tournament officials knew that I wasn't going to. However, my coach added my name to the active roster for their next game so that I could be slotted in as a player serving a suspension. There was no way to disallow what he did. It _was_ an unofficial, fairly relaxed tournament, but it was still sanctioned under official USA Hockey rules. I did, in fact, *have to* serve my suspension, and no matter how you look at it, I *did* serve it.
He was something else
Modern problems requires modern situation
You forgot Lou's Jersey number rule, the only exceptions being established players he traded for. He allows playoff beards, but again that is about team unity, also he used to have the team stay in a hotel during home game in the playoffs, I think he softened in later years, but I'm pretty sure 95 and 2000 that was still in place
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he have a strict policy about players having social media towards the late 2000s/early 2010s? I remember hearing that, and it sorta made sense considering the only player I remember using social media was Martin Brodeur
I heard a story that Roger Nielson had to coach a Leafs game with a paper bag over his head after he got fired because the Leafs didn't have a coach that night.
Penalizing the home team due to massive fan misbehaviour is completely logical. Fans represent cities. They shouldn't be allowed to throw things on the ice without consequence.
Oh for sure, but it's so arbitrary. Like imagine a playoff scenario where opposing teams fans threw stuff on the ice to penalize the other team. It's just confusing how they assess it
@@RobTalksHockey thats why I said massive. A few fans wouldnt be representative but a huge number would reflect on the home fans. And it is at the refs discression.
Fans represent the city but they aren't the players. It's illogical to penalize a player for something a fan did. Thats like punishing the homeowner for being robbed.
@@aggravatedstrawberry what a dumb analogy. It is completely logical (not for individual fans but for mass fan misbehavior) and the best way to curb this behavior. When it is a large number of fans, they wouldnt be individually punished. To continue the dumb analogy, Its like punishing the homeowner because their kids broke something belonging to a neighbor.
@@smithryansmith why should an innocent party get in trouble for something that they literally cannot control. Holding the players accountable for something out of their control is completely illogical. Also, the fans are allowed to throw things on the ice, like hats when their is a hat trick, why does it matter if it's a hat?
The Roger Nielson goalie pulling stick play missed a little caveat; the goalie had to break his stick and leave the pieces. It was already illegal to leave a whole stick on the ice, so he told his goalie to break it lol
One thing to add about the Tarasenko call is that the NHL clarified after that game that they would no longer treat that situation the same. The rule was not intended to work that way, and that they would not call that play a penalty going forward, even though the refs were technically correct.
The rule that is stated in the video is not even the rule that was enforced for the penalty. The penalty is playing with a stick obtain illegally, if a player wants to play with another playerâs stick, he has to obtain it from a hand to hand from a player on the ice or on the bench. He cannot pick a stick that is not his that is lying on the ice
@@gabrieldemers5062 So, I thought the same thing, but I went to the Google machine, and found some quotes from the NHL about the situation that indicated that the penalty was actually called as Tarasenko playing with a stick that was too long, and the NHL saying they would not enforce the rule that way in the future.
People just about to go to opponents home games in the playoffs and throw stuff on the ice to make them get a penaltyđ
now that its legal make sure you place your bets on the away team too so you can draw penalties and influence the score of the game with power plays.
Lou Lamoriello's "No Facial Hair" and low Jersey number policy actually came from his relationship with George Steinbrenner of the New York Yankees. He wanted to model the NJ Devils after the Yankees, especially when we were in our cup dynasty years.
Only reason Lou did that, is because Lou is not man enough to grow any facial hair.
was it also a rule in the playoffs?
@@TheChazman86 Yes, they could have it during the playoffs, but once the new season started it had to be clean again and their hair had to be cut short again.
@@DammitIvaldi I would say I'm here to score a goal or more. Not to get my fucken haircut.
The Rat in the Florida Panthers locker room was the first game at the first arena the Panthers played at. It was dilapidated basketball arena. You can ask Minnesota Wild beat writer Michael Russo about it. I did a couple years ago and that's what I was told. Right player though. And it was a confirmed one timer LoL đ
The tape color rule must date back to a time when there were only two colors of hockey tape - black and white - hence the rule stating that the tape must be white was pretty much akin to stating that the tape could not be black.
Makes sense
I will say I can see why it started. And why it might be easier to keep it that way.
But looks dumb to tell a dude with green team colors that green tape is illegal in game. Even if the initial reason and simplicity of not having to preapprove a new set of colors does make sense.
Great video, I love the work and dedication put into these. just a quick question can you please bring back the dog
Consider that one or more of the officials on the ice may be color blind; any color other than white on the knob end of a goalie's stick could be a hue of gray and therefore be mistaken as the puck. The rule, while possibly based on a rare past occurrence, is not obscure or confusing if you take a moment to consider all the possible variables involved. The speed at which the puck can go in and out of the net requires that referees be able to identify as quickly as possible when a goal is scored. While looking at a color, any color, other than black in a static situation is obvious, the rapid movement of a goalie's stick potentially going into the net and subsequently coming out just as quickly as it went it is why rule 10.2 exists. It is not because the (non color blind) officials can't tell the different colors apart, but because any color darker than white, if seen peripherally by an official, could be considered a puck crossing the goal line, especially if there are multiple players in the crease fighting for the puck.
Very true, good point!
Except for the fact a colour blind person should not be in charge of officiating a multi-million dollar league. Has nothing to do with discrimination and everything to do with ability
@@tylerfortin3239 We'll agree to disagree. But color blindness is only one factor. Any dark color on the end of the goalie's stick going in and out of the net rapidly while there is a scramble in front of the net, and the ref is not 100% certain who has control of the puck, if that dark color is seen in the referee's peripheral vision could be mistaken for the puck. Also saying that it's not about discrimination, rather about ability is discriminatory. If I am able to do everything a veteran NHL referee can do, why would a color blind individual be denied the job? Black puck on a white surface is sufficient contrast to know where the puck is. Requiring the goalie to have a white knob on his stick simply ensures that the knob won't be confused for the puck. Speaking as a goaltender with 40 years experience, I keep colors to a minimum on my stick and my gear because I want to locate the puck as quickly as possible, even faster than the refs whenever I can. Final point on the subject of color: search for the story of the Ottawa ophthalmologist who wrote to the Penguins about M-A Fleury's yellow pads, suggesting he go to white. The NHL's speed is such that players and officials only have fractions of a second to spot open net or the puck. Contrast is the only thing the brain has time to process when operating at NHL speeds.
@@HotBranch its more likely that specific rules are just generally better and easier to enforce than general rules. "Not black" opens up a wide array of colors and is completely subjective to the person judging when it comes to very dark colors. On the flip side "white only" is a lot easier to enforce and while you may get some subjectiveness with some very light grays the edge cases are a lot more cut and dry.
@@Capzielath64 Agreed. My initial point was that the rule is not confusing (or obscure) as more casual observers of the game might think. There are many factors to keep in mind that "gray areas" make enforcing the rules of one of the fastest games much harder.
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Thanks for the feedback dude. I appreciate ya
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So... I donÂŽt really care about Hockey anymore and never cared about the NHL.... But I still canÂŽt get enough of your videos. Your narration and storytelling is really, really good,
loving the content keep up the great work!
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You could do a whole video on uncle Lou! No facial hair, no crazy hair colors, very rarely making an exception for high jersey numbers
As a florida panthers fan I have insight, they sell the rats in the main merchandise store
My local team growing up sold plastic mudbugs with the expressed intent of throwing them on the ice after a goal. Embrace the chaos... and the income of scooping them off the ice and selling them again. I'm surprised more teams didn't do that.
I tried to find the answer but failed.
The picture with 11 players counted on the ice, is that an actual record for the most amount of players one team has had on the ice at one time and getting a too many men penalty?
Also these videos are great. Sure it was always fun watching highlights, but man... everything being explained and commented on, theories or anything, it is so much better.
Makes you miss playing hockey đą
And those damn Leafs tickets are too expensive
Did not know about the stick nob
Yeah it's a bizarre one lol
I was at that Blues game. What a crazy season that turned out to be!
The Edmonton Shootout vs LA where EDMs goalie got called out and had to change his tape color was honestly wild to watch on TV. Was either Sutter or Todd for LA but pretty sure at that point he was hoping to mentally throw whoever off with the small break
I'm thinking Darryl Sutter, because that was during the early to mid 2010s, when the Oilers had a revolving door of goaltenders, and one of head coaches.
@@grahamdamberger7130 Darryl Sutter never had anything to do with the Oilers
@@aaronlusanko8779 No, but I believe he was coaching LA during that time period. McLellan was coaching San Jose at that time as well, before he became bench boss of the Oilers.
@@grahamdamberger7130 they still have revolving goaltending season in and season out heavy up front and soft behind the blue line , you can't win championships like that in modern Era of NHL ....But you have Mcjesus for entertainment
@@kevinbrown7326 You can't win championships if you have a revolving door of coaches either, because how one coach runs a team may be different from the next coach after them or the previous coach before them. And if you change coaches every two seasons from one style to another, it will just confuse the players.
Iâm amazed that refs have these rules memorized to the point where if some dude picks up the stick, theyâve subconsciously or consciously analyzed the dudes height and the stick length and issue a penalty on the spot.
So thatâs why the islanders are so young đ
The first one isn't all that odd a rule. The rule says it's the home team affected as they have more fans there naturally. They have to stop the game to clear it all up. So you need something to deter that. If you know your team will get a penalty and be down a player giving the opposing team an advantage (for the most part) and vould lose the game based on goals scored in those times then that could deter most people from throwing things onto the ice. It helps the flow of the game too as it isn't stopped for 10 minutes while they clear everything. I think the rule makes perfect sense.
And it was specifically made because of the Panther fans throwing rats on the ice during their playoff run back in the day. That rule has been around for a while now.
great video forgot about some of rogers tactics
Its happening a LOT even today. Referees making clearly bullcrap penalties simply because they are on a personal power trip.
I would not second guess than some NHL referees intentionally throw games because they may be gambling on them' or have someone doing the betting FOR them so as not to make a connection to them.
It may be interesting to note that in some cases, nationality of the referee has dictated an NHL games course.
Stéphane Auger for instance, and the NHL just sat and did NOTHING on deciding what to do about him until he retired.
Not NHL, but in Vancouver, Canada, we have a team called the Vancouver Giants, and, once a year, every christmas, they have a teddy bear toss. They are selling teddy bears everywhere, and when the Giants score their first goal, everyone thows the bears onto the ice. The teddy bears will then go to the children's hospital. Living in Vancouver, I always go. No matter what, there will always be bears on the ice for the opposing team's first goal. If it takes a long time for the Giants to score, the fans start getting get antsy because lots of kids come to this game and it's past their bedtime. Therefore, some bears get thrown at random times. There are announcements that say that the Giants may get a penalty, and even though I've never seen it, it's definetally happened before.
(Whew, that was long)
I once had black tape on the knob of my goalie stick, and I was forced to put some white tape over it. I had never thought of it looking like a puck until then
After the no abandoned stick rule when pulling your goalie, dear old Roger had a goalie snow plow the goal line.
I got a good video idea if you find enough players for it
Unexpected breakout players during a rebuild
Quebec Nordiques players before they became the avs would be a good example
Love your videos, i always recommend em to my buds
The no facial hair thing with Lou is something I had never heard before
Ahh the Gerbe-Chara image also hilarious was when Gerbe and Atkinson were on either side of Chara during a ceremony
I always thought that a team should send a couple of extra guys out in the last minute when the other team pulls the goalie. The play would continue until your team touches the puck. But it wouldn't allow them to score due to the extra guys. Then when you get a too many men on the ice penalty. You just send two more guys out.
I guess that Roger Neilson thought the same way and actually did it. I wonder if he's related to Leslie Neilson. đ
Louâs beard shaving was just nonsense didnât do anything, but just make the whole team look ridiculous.
Legend has it that Lou Isn't man enough to grow any facial hair. Enter: The facial hair rule.
word on the street is that for his entire life he has had almost zero testosterone and got bullied in his youth for it (allegedly).
Lou basically wants the players to look like him
Lol bro this is not the epidemy of "my body my choice" hahaha
Lmao. You are very correct, and my comment came off very wrong without me explaining the context of what I meant
Epitome
They sell those rats at the panther stadium...much cheaper on Amazon
Normally the panthers had sold the ratâs in the team store
I never knew that about Ron Stackhouse! He was my Grade 10 computer and Grade 12 Law teacher in high school (Haliburton Highlands SS in Haliburton ON). He didn't speak much about his NHL life. But what a character. Check out his stats... HOF????
As a 6â6â player, I kind of wish stick length rules would be relaxed so longer sticks were cheaper and easier to find.
Good content, my inspiration
Thanks buddy!
I thought Louâs no facial hair rule doesnât apply if itâs playoff hockey or the team has clinched a playoff spot
I don't know about all the other rules but the first rule with the fan causing a penalty is pretty common in other leagues. I know football, baseball, and basketball have rules where a fan can cause a penalty to the home team.
As an islanders fan you can have Lou. I'm not too thrilled with him
He got Mat Barzal locked up atleast lol
@@RobTalksHockey true, but trading towes over leddy, keeping Palmieri over ebs?
The Isles are 9-5-0 and second in the Metro. I wouldn't complain too much personally
Plus Lou isn't man enough to grow any facial hair. Hence, comes in the facial hair rule.
4:54 someone pls tell me thats a real pictuređ
I'm happy to say that it's 100% real lmao
Those late 70s-early 80s Canucks sweaters hurt to look at.
What if Thornton was traded to the isles? I wouldnât recognize him at all.
Did you recognize Joe when he shaved his beard in Toronto
So youâre wondering why dark colored tapes are banned? Pick one single goal review with âdid. it cross the lineâ as topic and think about it again if more stuff that could be the puck would make it better, or worse. To be honest, this rule is making more sense than every of the review rules together, if you ask me.
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why would you put ejected for stick tape in the title Rob.
Kings fans will forever be haunted by the âillegal stickâ rule
Oh yeah, because of McSorley. But that rule started with illegal curves during the Original 6 era.
It's unlikely that Lou catches up to Poile. David Poile is still an active GM with Nashville, has 126 more wins than Lou and is 8 years younger
So sad to see now that the person penalized on the Blues and the person who scored the short handed OT goal are now gone...
The goalie rule might make sense bc the color of the tape mostly matched their jersey color so it could confuse the refs
The most confusing thing is the random image of someone bungie jumping at 7:50.
Uuhhhh Tobias Enstrom (when pmaying for Winnipeg) had a taller stick than himself. But the way he tucked it and whiped it out full length when needed on D. The rule is broken period
Fans throwing things on the ice is definitely a good penalty to call and should be called every time it happens obviously not including hat tricks or teddy bear toss games
These may be weird/dumb rules, but that doesnât change that giving an opposing player a severe concussion from a sucker punch that left said player unconscious for 5 minutes on the ice
*DOES NOT END IN BLACKBALLING FROM THE LEAGUE NOR DOES IT MEANT HE SPENT ANY TIME IN JAIL DUE TO A PLEA DEAL*
The "no facial hair" "rule" is absurd! I would never agree to those terms. Pure insanity if you ask me
Dam right,,what is this nazi Germany
That is why you should never get drafted or traded or signed to a team that has Lou as the GM
Odd things do happen, hope they always do (in a non-horrible way)
Doesnât Jake Oettinger use black tape on his knob when Dallas uses their black and neons?
Terasenko wasn't penalized because the stick was too long, he was penalized because it's illegal to pick up another player's stick
IT WAS HIS TEAMMATE'S STICK
@@robloxwithacetheavenger4908 yes, ANOTHER PLAYER. You can hand your stick to a teammate, but you can't pick their stick up off the ice and use it
@@danger170388 IT MEANS AN OPPONENT'S STICK
@@robloxwithacetheavenger4908 nope
@@danger170388 I just looked up the rule. It's legal to pick up someone's stick up off the ice, but only if it's not broken
Iâm a big Tarasenko fan and that call makes me mad
Oh yes, those notorious blue and green pucks
I don't think the home team's fans getting penalties is 'absurd' at all.
It's happened to multiple teams and happens in multiple sports.
Imagine if a bunch of away fans (say Toronto fans going to buffalo) and most of the fans were away fans, and the crowd was so rowdy that theyâd give buffalo a jersey đđđ
"Articles thrown for a special occasion will not result in penalty" arent all things on the ice for a special occasion?
The rule of fans delay of game is actually a really good rule to have.
Just thinking about this though... there are a few stadiums where the "visiting" team has almost as many fans as the home team.. So the visiting fans could wreak havoc on the home team by acting up!!!
Look at Buffalo. Often times when they face Toronto half the arena is Toronto fans
@@RobTalksHockey Yup, Ottawa is the same with Leafs fans all over the place
I want a movie like moneyball to made about roger nielson starring steve coogan
The white tape on a goalie stick makes perfect sense. Black tape could be mistaken as a puck. Iâve seen it as a goalie my self
Black tape makes sense, but does green tape lol?
And does blue tape make sense?
The goalie stick tape rule isn't a bad rule. Whether it's black, blue, green, red, or whatever, a small colored dot (or close to dot-shaped) in the middle of a mad scramble in front of the net can be mistaken for the puck. Refs don't have time to be focussing intently on the exact color of a colored dot in the middle of a bunch of bodies and sticks and pads. It's kind of like how players can't be focussing on the exact jersey color of players around them. Blue, red, green, orange, black, all look dark in a player's peripheral vision at the speed of the game and is the very reason jerseys are always colored versus white. It should be made as easy as possible for both players and officials to know what is what.
As for the bench minor for fans throwing things on the ice, THAT is dumb. Every time a PA announcer says "stop it or your team will get a penalty," a visiting fan always throws something, resulting in a bench minor for the home team.
The rule I never understood was the goalie skating over the center line.
Color of the tape matters because there are colors that aren't quite black or practically black
And after the rats in 96, Florida didnât score another goal in the series
3:23 and yet we can have a different color than white for goalies in chel
Blue or green tape matters because some refs are blind af. Okay actually some people are color blind. More common for males.
Why does the home team get a penalty if the crowd isnât listening? What did the home hockey team do? Nothing itâs the crowd
Scott Stevens had playoff beards many times. I don't get it.
5:47 That's not true. Do you have a valid source on this claim?
"When play began with two games on Dec. 19, 1917, goalies were not even allowed to drop to the ice to make a save."
Source: New York Times
www.nytimes.com/2017/12/15/sports/hockey/nhl-centennial-goalie-rules.html
I Think that the white tape rule exists for the players so they don't get distracted!
Ref sees tape thatâs not white but isnât black so technically itâs legal. Goes over to the other refs anyways . â itâs our time to power trip â
Oh so it's okay to throw baseball caps onto the ice after a hat trick but not fake rats?? Ain't that some bullshit
They didnât bow down to Lou. They bowed down to the mighty $$$$
To the league's credit they came out and said they got the Tarasenko call wrong.
While they called it for too long of a stick, under the rules, it was still a penalty. A forward can hand his stick to a defenseman, but no player can pick up a stick off the ice and use it unless it is your own.
@@madganser you're allowed to pick up a teammate's stick unless it is broken. You can't pick up an opponent's stick.
Lou allows playoff beards but thatâs it
Imagine Burns to the Islanders DAMN
The fake rat salesman outside the arena must have made some good money that day đ
Nah the panthers have a tradition it was stupid to bench Hubby for that
I thought Joe shaved his beard because he thought Lou was still GM of the Leafs, but he left, allowing Auston to grow his iconic mustache
By iconic you mean horrible porn-stache, right?
@@pa-mo What's wrong with Auston's mustache?
WTF? Stick length I knew was a rule, but Iâm 6â2â and use a 65â stick because my limbs are longer than average (arms and legs; but my Legs are definitely long because I need 36â length pants minimum)
I meant 63â stick đ
Nothing confusing about Tarasenko using a stick that's too long, it's against the rules.
Where is the trapezoid rule??
another RTH banger
Haha thanks brother
''US Hockey'' yeah. of course
I got roasted on Reddit for a comment about Lou saying it was absurd . Glad to see someone else also thinks itâs ridiculous!
Great video dude
Look up the definition of uniform
@@SeamHead33 lol yes sir ! Apologies for the opinion sir !
Wonât happen again gatekeeper sir !
@@nova5114 roger that
@@SeamHead33The uniform is polo shirt, Jordanâs, and No pants on, penis out. Thatâs the uniform bro, you canât go against it or question it, itâs the uniform
Legend has it that Lou isn't man enough to grow any facial hair. Enter: The facial hair rule.
I'm pretty sure you cannot find these kind of hilarious rules or weird stats on any other sports - at least within western world. Thanks dude for bringing these to hockey fans attention.
63.4 or 63.5
zuccarello must get a penalty every game for using a stick thats too long then