ASOIAF Theories: House Stark's Connections To The White Walkers!? - A Song of Ice and Fire (Theory)
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- Welcome back for another A Song of Ice and Fire Theory videos. This is a follow-up to my video about Bran Stark's first chapter in the books. In that video, I referenced some of House Stark's connections to the White Walkers. Their relationship dates all the way back to the Age of Heroes, during an event that is known as, The Long Night. Almost everything surrounding House Stark has a direct connection to the White Walkers in some way. Today I want to go over some of the evidence by looking at various quotes from the ASOIAF books. Let me know if you think I am on the right track. Thanks for watching!
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As Maester Aemon has said several times, "love is the death of duty."
seems to be the case with good old Brandon Stark and his corpse Queen
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It's definitely hard to say which ASOIAF CZcams channel is the best, though he's certainly in the top ten 🎩
All this talk about the Crips of Winterfell. What about the Bloods of Winterfell?
lol
LOL XD I just now got that!!!
The bloods are dragons (Targs)
Awwwhhh like ghetto game of thrones like it
Ba-dum tssss!
Well.. Here we go again boys.
I will always remember... how D&D fumbled the story
It STILL hurts
Yep , it sure does still hurt!!
“Fumble” is too kind
They should have just went with the Old Nan tale of they all lived in the giant’s blue eye. It would have been a better ending 😆
Tell D&D The Audience Remember 🔥
Winter will come for them!
"The brother of the man that brought him DOWN...to the crypts, NOT SLAIN because they were KIN...Kinslaying is forbidden! Also note that the doors to the crypts are IRONWOOD!
M’lord where is the fire extinguisher....
Because this video is lit and i love it. Continue making these we all support you!
I actually have a different theory. What if the war between First Men and White Walkers ended with a marriage pact? What if the first Stark was the hybrid child between the Last Hero and the Winter Queen? What if the Night King's love story was a reference to the actual events that transpired, showing the reader that it IS possible to bear a child from interracial intercourse?
No, the army of the dead is like the Borg...
Interspecies*
Interracial is like Summer Isles + Winterfell, no?
I like where you are going with this. The other thing that makes me feel there are more connections between the WW and House Stark is the Broken Tower.
The tower was destroyed so long ago, nobody knows what it looked like.........perhaps erased from history as it has something to do with the Starks and WWs.
Bran opened his 3rd eye, only after falling from the Broken Tower.
Also, look at the series’ sigil of the Nights King.......could that be the old Broken Tower top?
I think the Broken Tower is KEY to the Starks and WW story.
Winter fell and bran fell. I dig what you’re saying
this intro, remember waiting for season 8
Haha, same here 😂😂
Still waiting for season 8 😉
soon i will beginn with the show and the books again
When winter comes you will
Love ❤️ this! I decided to give the books 📚 a second try once the series was over. For whatever reason, I had a hard time with the multiple POVs and would get irritated with the Sansa chapters. So, this year I decided to give it a go again because how can someone love a show so much and not read/love the books? Thankfully I find myself beginning A Dance of Dragons now not having experienced any of those previous issues and loving every single book. Your videos could not be coming at a better time as I will soon be done with ADoD and take my rightful place amongst my fellow brothers and sisters of the Night’s Watch as we endure this Long Night before the release of The Winds of Winter ❄️ These videos will be a godsend and you are the right Maester to guide us during our watch.
Great to hear!
@@TalkingThrones I wana ask something are there white walkers and the army of the dead battles in the book? Btw i love youre videos
@@Kokinos45 Not yet ;)
I have always believed that the Night Walker King is going to be a Stark. I can’t wait until George R R Martin finally releases Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring. He is a literary genius and to know what he has kept in his mind about all of this is going to satisfy our need for knowledge about how it is all going to resolve itself
Widow's Wail will be Lightbringer. It was sacrificed from Ice.
This is why i think a TV show on the Age of Heroes would be bigger than GoT. Way juicier lore.
Stark in Swedish mean strong.
In German too.
In English it means bare in appearance or sheer, a faint outline. Usually a word used in comparison to colour.
The yellow sash is a stark Contrast to purple dress.
@@nerdyempress6745 ah yes, i recall that now.
I think some of the Crypts stuff is foreshadowing
1. Lyanas importance to Jon Snow
2. The dead being risen in the Crypts
The world retired D&D. They escape somewhere in Tibet. We lost their location since 2019
I am reading the books right now: I think you should have also mentioned the "rumor" about how Craster is a half-blood between a wildling and a man of the Nightswatch/Stark. If Craster does in-fact have Starks's blood it would be the main reason why he was the only man beyond the wall, sacrificing his sons for protection to the Walkers. This would further explain why he married his daughters and impregnates them so that, like the Targeryens, the bloodline is kept pure. Anyway, I really enjoy watching your videos
Great deep dive! Thanks for posting! ♥️👸🏾
Thank you for still putting out quality lore videos
Love the chapter by chapter reviews btw. I've had an itch to get back to GOT but the show just left a lot to be desired. Definitely scratches that itch
Another video so soon?? Feeling spoiled!! ❤️❤️ thank you :)
There wasnt a defeat of the wights, there was an armistice, at the gods eye. The realms of man breached the contract which reignited the conflict.
The Nightfort and the Black Gate was neutral ground where exchange took place between the others and the nights watch, and or the starks took place to fulfill their pact.
Waited to see this continuation video.Good time to start my Friday ❤❤❤
Always my sincere gratitude to Talking Thrones..👍👍
Keep up Buddy.. ✌✌
Thanks bro
That's the kind of videos I want to see!Keep it up
I already rad the first book 2 times,
and I am reading it again
This is wonderful and is keeping me together for winds of winter ❄️
You get OUT David Benioff. OUT
Awesome video!! It’s now like most theories that say something interesting but have nothing to back it up. Keep these videos coming!
The first definition for stark in Merriam Webster dictionary is "having a very plain and often cold or empty appearance"
After George .you are the main source to rely on. Already shared your videos on a couple of platforms. Thank you
Did you share the link to this video, or are you downloading it and uploading it yourself?
Very interesting stuff, I'm very happy with getting my GoT fix through this channel, thank you Charlie!!!
Thanks for watching. My name is Dan, though, lol. 😊
I STARTED WATCHING GAME OF THRONES DUE TO STARK FAMILY. THEIR STORY IS SIMMILAR AS OURS. PEOPLE WHO FIGHT FOR THEIR IDENTITY AND RECOGNITION IN THEIR OWN HOMELAND.
MOST OF OUR PEOPLE REALLY RELATE TO STARKS.
@fo exipni Kashmir. North of the Indian Subcontinent.
@fo exipni Well it is conflict zone. The people here are not fighting for power or anything like that. We relate to Starks because the Starks were held captive in their own homeland and the same situation is here. We fight more for recognition and our rights more than power.
Briefly as Starks lost half oftheir family members and we lost about 100,000 of them. We fight for what is ours like Starks do. In that way my people relate to Starks. And regionally like Winterfell is north of westeros Kashmir is north of the indian subcontinent.
Gotta appreciate your hard work.
New subscriber here! Thank you for this!
Also one more thing. They say Robert was the true steel. "STANNIS THE IRON"
Great video and great theory.
Let’s not forget that at the end of Clash of Kings, Bran and company took some of the iron longswords off of some of the tombs!!
Good video!!!
I think this is the same reason why Ned broke tradition and put Lyanna in the crypt.
One thing always stuck early one, ned stark says to bran (a future green seer) “ a mad man sees what he sees”
I believe this is all a dream of brans or that his “gift” will turn and he’ll become insane like the mad king
Only Jon the true air can solve this and take his true position, brans manipulated all of the chaos since becoming the three eyed raven
So many potential exciting plot lines
Morning Dan! Something I can listen to at work.
Best book club ever! Thanks TT
Keeping us sane in this time of COVID.
Great theory that I happen to believe!
Loving the cross over from show to books. Hopefully WoW will be out soon for even more material.
Great way to start my day, a TT video on my obsession, Got! 👏
Has anyone noticed, that the white walkers hate iron and blood? We have iron in our blood and blood is a sign of life.
In magic mythology Bronze Age magic is vulnerable to iron. Since it sounds like the original knight king was created in the Bronze age, it would be susceptible to iron. At least that's what I assume George was basing this on since it's a very common trope.
Hmm, was this Brandon Stark a truly bad person, he did strip the slavers and give them to the slaves who were chained. Was the Wolf's Den property of House Stark in which Brandon Stark was recapturing?🤔🤔
it’s in white harbour, and when the Starks were Kings of Winter, it was technically their property.
It was built by jon stark and taken by slavers when Brandon's grandfather was weakened
I hope your video on Game of Thrones: Book 1 Chapter 2 is coming soon!
@TalkingThrones
In the song of ice and fire in one of the last chapters with Reek/Theon before the escape from Winterfell, Theon shows Lady Dustin/Barbrey Dustin the crypts and they notices that there are swords missing from some of the tombs.
Nice video.
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Well isn’t a part of the cyprts caved in? The iron swords would only hold the night king. So the starks that Ned could see would be newer so therefore they would be human. In the caves in part there is less air so less oxidation so the sword can be preserved therefore still holding the nights king.
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I kinda figured that the man killed by the woman with the sickle was that Brandon Stark, the 13th LC of the NW. Perhaps he was placed in th Crypts. The children were able to get to him and salvage his form or raise him. Maybe they drug his body from the Crypts, beyond the Wall and there performed something like what we see in that scene in the show of them creating WWs, but not to create him as an Other, just make him more like Stoneheart.
I like this, though I also think Coldhands could very well be the Night's King (13th LC). That could be the result of what they did with the sickle.
I was expecting this great revelation at the end of the tv series, but nahh. Anyway, additional details on iron--the crypts of Winterfell has an iron gate that is said to freeze when winters are hard. And yes, other mysteries include the story behind Joramun's Horn and the "caved in" portion in the deeper parts of the crypts.
Yesss just keep it coming with new video’s , it makes me happy
In that same chapter, Sam notes that Jon Snow has eyes as hard and grey as ice.
Thank you sir!!! I’m still a fan!
The idea that Someone has special blood goes against everything Martin is writing. He's constantly finding the logig and reason in magic and all the craziness. That's kind of what's appealing about the story.
All winters fall. Winter falls.....spring rises.
I think the last hero is the one who ended the long night but not necessarily defeat the White Walkers. I think maybe they were on the move because something the south was doing and the last hero came to a compromise to stop the attack
Always found it interesting that the new gods sigil 7 pointed star with circle looks like a wheel, and had slowly phased out old gods who connected to blood Raven, COTF, NK
😍😍 memories
I always wondered what does lord baelish mean with what he says in your intro?
BAELISH* Not baylich lol.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 I knew I was wrong but I was too lazy to search for the correct one lol
I loved this video
Thank ya
While reading the books and watching the show, I often wondered, why didn't they just replace the swords?
correct, if Ned Stark was that fearful, why not just replace the swords, and have torches or pans with burning oil for light/ and to keep the spirits at bay, and then when the king came to take Ned away, he should have refused that also, --as a Stark must always remain at Winterfell
@@wdinns Thank you. Why has no one in the books or show figured that out.
Maybe the sword has to be specifically their sword? Ice was the family sword, so it belongs to each King of Winter/Lord of Winterfell. So, maybe any random sword laying around won't work, it has to be special. For example, Arya and Needle (even though Arya most likely won't have a statue). 🤷♀️
BigJohn Kapert
The logistics of keeping hundreds of dead equipped with good iron seems a bit daft after a while.
Like, they are the poorest Kingdom.
@@realdaggerman105 I disagree, it's iron not steel. Just sayin'
is this gaming with thrones still a thing?
Imagine if the world we know collapsed I wonder if people would believe that the Game of Thrones books were the word of god?
I believe that there must always be a Stark in winterfell because they are Kin to the whitewalkers... They cannot slay each other because of the old Gods law against kinslaying! The underground crypts are far larger than the castle above. It was built on undisturbed ground, most likely where WINTERFELL! Love Qot 🌹
it's been a long time since...but still too soon. the long night ...equals one night ?
From your video, 14:37> look at the phrasing “Mayhaps”. The word Mayhaps is used in the Lord Of The Crossing game with the Frey boys. The significance of Mayhaps means you are disqualified if you don’t use the word Mayhaps. So pay special attention to the two things Old Nan says the are prefixed with Mayhaps.......I think they’re the telling comments. His name was Brandon Stark and he slept in that very room.
I’m still looking at this part, but I’m sure it’s going to be relevant.
I would interested what reawakened the white walkers.
Ba da bah Ba bahhhh... I'm lovin it.. Haha, it's good to see you back to business buddy. Hope all is well.
How the hell ice "burns" like ice? Ice never burns, great video btw!
Liquid nitrogen.
How did they have "dragon steel" thousands of years before the supposed rise of Valyria and the taming of dragons to *make* dragon steel (what I'm assuming is Valyrian steel)? 🤔 So many mysteries. They could mean dragon GLASS, though why would they call it that if they didn't even know that dragons existed then?....Unless they *did*
And if Planetosi history is as it seems, only the *new* 400-year old Ice would be made of dragon (or Valyrian) steel...the old one wouldn't be.
Why is John Carpenter's Halloween theme playing very low in the background?
Hahahahahah missed that now I cant focus on anything else....geeeee thanks🤣
Talk Time!
Basically Jon Snow is Azor Ahai.
BY FAR this was the most disappointing element of Season 8, that they never brought the Stark connection to the WW and they did nothing with the Crypts. I think the way the Starks "defeated" the White Walkers/Others and sending them away was by giving one of their own to them, a daughter or a son or a baby.
I think the iron swords are so the dead arent turned into white walkers
👍,i always enjoy your video's
The gesture of the iron swords laid across the laps of the ancient Stark kings in the crypts of Winterfell clearly signifies that the ancient Stark kings are denying guest right to said vengeful spirits. Rob Stark does the same when he has audience with Tyrion Lannister at Winterfell. He receives Tyrion in the Great Hall of Winterfell with a longsword laid on his lap, denying him guest right. He also did not offer him salt or bread. I find it interesting that the swords were made of iron though.. That seems a bit arcane...
So, why don't the iron swords or iron tipped arrows harm them?
The Night's King is probably down there.
Maybe the kings in the crypts are kings that died during the long night which is why they put iron and swords on their laps to keep them from rising again when the night king comes back they buried their dead instead of burning them so the only way to make sure they never rise again was to put iron swords on their laps
The Night king was a stark. Brandon the builders brother.
GRRM might be a white walker before the book series is complete
My question.... how the heck did Nan learn all of this? Who is Nan.... REALLY?
She might be an old greenseer, like the Three Eyes Raven. 👀
@@TalkingThrones - it's the only logical answer.... I wonder if she came from Graywater Watch when she arrived at Winterfell.
Is the next episode of season 8 fan theories on the way?
I think he stopped doing those.
Awwwwwww. Why they were class
I think it was so he could cover the books and he wasnt really enjoting the fan theories as much. Dont remember exactly what the said though.
I see. I enjoyed it tho. Thanks anyway mate
Prequal of the starks would be good
If they hated iron so much then how come regular swords couldn’t kill them??? Only Dragon Glass & Velaryon Steel could? But iron could keep them locked up…so then why wasn’t the wall built of iron?
Perhaps the Others are coming to avenge the murdered Starks.
Is it just me or do the regular White Walkers look scarier than "the king"?
Perhaps what "they hated iron" simply means their weapons destroy iron swords. Not that they are afraid of iron made weapons.
So exactly how many Night Kings were there? One who was defeated in the first Long Night by Azor Ahai. Second one 13th Lord Commander of Nights Watch and the Third who planned to invade in current world of Ice and Fire. So many questions!!!
There is no "Night King" in the books, only in the show. So far in the books, there has just been _one_ Night's King, the 13th LC of the Nights Watch. They probably_do_ have some sort of leader in the books, though
So should ned put another sword
I think Danny's John 's messa messa and he becomes azhor high
Starks descended from White Walkers.
So could the current Night King be one of the sons of Brandon Stark the 13th lord commandor (who was given to the white walkers) and he’s going to Winterfell to find his father to do some sh*t together?