What Game of Thrones Didn't Tell You About Jon Snow's Death Scene!? - A Song of Ice and Fire (Books)

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  • Welcome back for another Game of Thrones and A Song of Ice and Fire video. In this video, I will explain what Game of Thrones didn't tell you about Jon Snow's death scene in the books. What actually happened when Jon Snow was betrayed by his own men of the Night's Watch? Who wrote the Pink Letter? Will Melisandre resurrect Jon Snow? What will happen to Jon Snow's direwolf, Ghost? Will we see Jon Snow in the Winds of Winter? Check out the video to find out what happened. Thanks for watching!
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  • @codyosburn343
    @codyosburn343 Před 3 lety +232

    Omg I loved this video.. I've never read the books so this is really fun and interesting for me!!!! Please do more like it!!!!!!!

    • @jakehopkins6989
      @jakehopkins6989 Před 3 lety +14

      I really recommend reading them - they're a great read!

    • @shannond7437
      @shannond7437 Před 3 lety +8

      Yes, even the audiobooks are amazing & as easy as listening to these! Worth the free trial!

    • @arharis6007
      @arharis6007 Před 3 lety +8

      I have all of the books that are out. And i am an avid reader but i have a hard time reading them and keeping things in order. It might be that i got them 3 years ago after seeing most of the series on HBO. So i am happy that you're doing the chapter by chapter video's helps me see things in a different light and makes me want to try reading them again. Thanks for the video you do a great job at it and tell Tasha i said hi and i am glad her channel is growing its almost doubled in member since i joined and she has you to thank for that and i cant wait until you do your collab video with her.

    • @Lotschi
      @Lotschi Před 3 lety +1

      @@arharis6007 For me it‘s exactly the same situation!

    • @danilomurillo6312
      @danilomurillo6312 Před 3 lety +2

      The wind stood still and the silenced roar. Rhaegar stood in
      balance and grew once more. Preparing for the battle to come. Baratheon warg
      and the earth shook. Battle arms ready my lords. Everyone in the halls stared
      in awe. Both Rhaegar and Baratheon squaring off. Rhaegar swing his sword and
      sang a song.-Danilo Antonio

  • @jimmymcgill7370
    @jimmymcgill7370 Před rokem +16

    Another interesting thing is that Alliser Thorne wasn’t even involved in the books. He’s still out on a ranging under he command of Dywen the old forester.

  • @countravid3768
    @countravid3768 Před 3 lety +174

    “I see you as a man then a wolf and a man again.” Melisandre to Jon.

  • @kellar334
    @kellar334 Před 3 lety +182

    Jon's death was the most memorable in all the five books, the way how Martin describes it's amazing

    • @cadmitral8786
      @cadmitral8786 Před 3 lety +5

      Was it as memorable as Robb's death?

    • @markanthony1004
      @markanthony1004 Před 3 lety +18

      @@aryanically Better, yes. More memorable, no. Less shocking, definitely

  • @arturfonseca3596
    @arturfonseca3596 Před 3 lety +139

    Melisandre wrote the letter to make Jon move away from Castle Black, she told him to be carefully and to have Ghost always near. Only she knew about Mance.

    • @Lotschi
      @Lotschi Před 3 lety +2

      Why not!

    • @jasonbumblebee237
      @jasonbumblebee237 Před 3 lety +16

      That’s an interesting theory hadn’t considered Melisandre

    • @michelesilva9491
      @michelesilva9491 Před 3 lety +9

      Melisandre, I hadn’t thought of that. That makes sense.

    • @Micheal93k
      @Micheal93k Před 3 lety +17

      Or Mance Rayder. Melisandre doesn't know who Reek is.

    • @sohinidutta97
      @sohinidutta97 Před 2 lety +1

      Makes so much sense!

  • @mordechairubinoff8485
    @mordechairubinoff8485 Před 3 lety +184

    “Talking Thrones” is low-key getting some more folks out there into reading (myself, included, haha)! Strong work!

    • @miguelportillo5421
      @miguelportillo5421 Před 3 lety +1

      I started to read the books after the Last season ended and Mr Talking Thrones started to relate every chapter...
      Best decision ever!
      What do you think is the deal with the 'real' Aegon?

    • @starrchild254
      @starrchild254 Před 3 lety

      I got all the books for £30 in a closing down sale in a bookshop. Total bargain

    • @MichaelNwah
      @MichaelNwah Před 2 lety

      @@miguelportillo5421 in what order are you reading them?

  • @xchrxstxan9779
    @xchrxstxan9779 Před 3 lety +57

    This is a story we’ll tell each other over and over again

  • @aobrainstem9208
    @aobrainstem9208 Před 3 lety +129

    Olly was never a character in the book, but in the show he gives the “kill shot” to Jon Snow. I’ve read that D&D made him a major character because of how he emoted: guess he gave a good stank face.

    • @Thomk121
      @Thomk121 Před 3 lety +3

      In the books I believe the boy that stabs him last is satin, the prostitute boy that became jons steward

    • @Thomk121
      @Thomk121 Před 3 lety +4

      D&D didn't want to touch the topic of prostitute 13 year old boy so they invented Olly

    • @Kopfschuss87
      @Kopfschuss87 Před 3 lety +4

      ​@@Thomk121 no, he didn't

    • @christopherlewis1315
      @christopherlewis1315 Před 3 lety +10

      Lol. If you bothered to watch the whole video, he reads that passage starting at 13:27
      Satin is not mentioned as one of the conspirators who stab Jon.

    • @saymyname2417
      @saymyname2417 Před 3 lety +7

      The young actor playing Ollie was AWESOME. But Idk why he was introduced at all. Maybe it WAS for the emoting cause he did a great job at just looking at Jon silently in sheer spite and disgust before he was hanged. Yep, one can never have enough child murders on the show...

  • @tanuskabanerjee1412
    @tanuskabanerjee1412 Před 3 lety +52

    Now I am gonna read the books. Seems like Jon Snow of books is even better.

    • @Harahvaiti
      @Harahvaiti Před 3 lety +22

      Jon Books is way better than Jon Show. For starters he is not younger and dumber version of Ned Stark. He is political and in certain moments displays even anger outbursts akin to his real father's family.

    • @isaacgraham5727
      @isaacgraham5727 Před 3 lety +8

      The character on the show has frankly nothing to do with the character in the books. Jon Snow of the books is actually complex, thoughtful, interesting, and unlike his show counterpart behaves with logic and compassion, for the most part.

    • @salimbhai1319
      @salimbhai1319 Před 3 lety +5

      @@isaacgraham5727 Remember when he grabbed Thorne by his neck when he and Slynt were trying to bully him

  • @benfisk58
    @benfisk58 Před 3 lety +76

    By far my favorite video so far. Jon's story is vastly more interesting in the story. Kit did a great job on GOT. I wish he got the true Jon Snow story line. PLEASE keep them coming

  • @karenhindson1695
    @karenhindson1695 Před 3 lety +25

    Yes, Mel telling Jon to keep Ghost close is important as I think that when Jon is murdered he will warg into Ghost

  • @paulster007
    @paulster007 Před 3 lety +12

    That little finger quote is the best quote of all GoT

  • @leslieshE
    @leslieshE Před 3 lety +85

    He died only because he wanted to save his sister and the wildlings...

    • @ladydiamond6261
      @ladydiamond6261 Před 3 lety +37

      Jon is like Ned and Rhaegar. They were both killed by trying to do the "right thing".

    • @jasonfawcett8671
      @jasonfawcett8671 Před 3 lety +24

      @@ladydiamond6261 I’m not sure if Rhaegar was doing the right thing or not, he’s very mysterious we don’t know enough to come to that conclusion

    • @ladydiamond6261
      @ladydiamond6261 Před 3 lety +6

      @@jasonfawcett8671 I thought so too. Maybe he thought he was doing the right thing to do by winning the war.

    • @Kanikanihia
      @Kanikanihia Před 3 lety +17

      @@jasonfawcett8671 If Rhaegar actually did the right thing or not in the grand scheme of things, we do not know, but he definitely thought he was doing the right thing. It's pretty much the same with Ned, whatever he did, he though he was doing good, but some of the consequences of his actions are arguably negative. Jon couldn't be different, as he was conceived and raised by people who deeply believed in their own moral code.

    • @ladydiamond6261
      @ladydiamond6261 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Kanikanihia Exactly. I could be wrong but I feel like Jon is kinda Naive and that's what got him killed.

  • @ladydiamond6261
    @ladydiamond6261 Před 3 lety +52

    Jon made the same mistake as his father and Uncle.

    • @victoriawhite3662
      @victoriawhite3662 Před 3 lety +23

      And his brother, Rob.

    • @LONlG
      @LONlG Před 3 lety +12

      @@victoriawhite3662 I mean, Rob chose to forsake his (and thus his family names) word in favor of a pretty face. Not exactly living up to his fathers example. (unless I'm mixing show and books again... hard for me to remember the differences)

    • @jamestoussaint8996
      @jamestoussaint8996 Před 3 lety +7

      “Trying” to ride south!

    • @LONlG
      @LONlG Před 3 lety +2

      @@jamestoussaint8996 doh! Good point. I was thinking the "do the right thing" aspect

    • @LONlG
      @LONlG Před 3 lety +10

      @MyLongestJourney Kindly ignoring his fear of who the old man Frey would choose as his wife amongst his spawn... And also ignoring the prior commitment he made to seal the alliance that got him across the river... Honor priorities? If he had honor, he wouldn't have slept with her knowing he was "technically" already engaged to a Frey.

  • @civil_te_b_04_yashpatel35
    @civil_te_b_04_yashpatel35 Před 3 lety +398

    The books are honestly superior

    • @ce666isa3
      @ce666isa3 Před 3 lety +27

      Vastly

    • @Morghul
      @Morghul Před 3 lety +26

      EVERYBODY AGREED

    • @clintholmes2061
      @clintholmes2061 Před 3 lety +51

      Is it wrong that I'm giving this a thumbs up without having read the books? I don't care. I'm doing it anyway.

    • @civil_te_b_04_yashpatel35
      @civil_te_b_04_yashpatel35 Před 3 lety +18

      @@clintholmes2061 come over to our side man

    • @Cool-123
      @Cool-123 Před 3 lety +24

      Clint Holmes Join the book side! We have unicorns

  • @TheProverbialHater
    @TheProverbialHater Před 3 lety +19

    _"For the watch..."_

  • @alektech7436
    @alektech7436 Před 3 lety +46

    Just read it 2 days ago. Amazing content on this channel, and I am amazed how many theories you can amke out of these books. George is a genious and so are you

    • @juantaste8603
      @juantaste8603 Před 3 lety +1

      There are better
      Watch alt shift x or in deep geek. 10x the content

    • @alektech7436
      @alektech7436 Před 3 lety +1

      @@juantaste8603 Yea all shift x was greattt! Really enjoyed that! Btw Could you recommend me some books like these? I am new to this content, and all I cared until few days ago was A Song of Ice and Fire but I would definietely read more of books like this!

    • @juantaste8603
      @juantaste8603 Před 3 lety +2

      @@alektech7436 The Farseer series and the wheel of time series are similar fantasies. Worth a read!

    • @alektech7436
      @alektech7436 Před 3 lety +1

      @@juantaste8603 Thank you! Will definietely look into that👍👍👍

    • @marcussparkus2733
      @marcussparkus2733 Před 3 lety

      George is this guy is actually wrong 99% of the time

  • @aatmikahuja
    @aatmikahuja Před 3 lety +13

    You motivated me to read the books and now I believe reading the books was one of a life time experience and I was missing out on it until convinced me otherwise. Your narration is too good.

  • @joshuavincent3515
    @joshuavincent3515 Před 3 lety +25

    Rob's wolf did the same thing Jon's wolf did before they died. It almost makes you think could these animals that have a bond with these people be able to see into the future. But it is more likely they can smell emotions on people and based on the emotions they can judge what is in their heart.

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 3 lety +13

      The direwolves are from the old gods. They were sent from the Children of the Forest and/or Bloodraven. They do have a sense for what's coming.

    • @joshuavincent3515
      @joshuavincent3515 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TalkingThrones That makes sense. And happy thanksgiving.

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je Před rokem

      @@TalkingThrones It would've be cool if post-resurrection Jon has this power!

  • @richardallen6067
    @richardallen6067 Před 3 lety +11

    Im glad you are still doin the thrones videos. Im rewatchin for the 7th time and its nice to see new content. I really gotta start on the books!

  • @Andy-1234
    @Andy-1234 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent job explaining and sorting the differences between the show and the book. You cleared a lot up for me. Many Thanks

  • @aaronthedragonslayer1279
    @aaronthedragonslayer1279 Před 3 lety +50

    I have severe PTSD due to this chapter! So depressing, after almost ten years we still don't know if Jon Snow will re-emerge. Keep your wolf close jon.

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 3 lety +15

      He better come back! Lol

    • @Thomk121
      @Thomk121 Před 3 lety +16

      He 100% comes back, we just don't know how. But we do know Jon has a bigger role to play. We were introduced to mel, resorrected beric and stoneheart, for a reason.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W Před 3 lety +6

      Martin's never going to finish those books. I haven't even read them het, and even I can tell he seems burnt out and wants to do other things, especially after the show ended. One can only hope he at least finishes his current book and that the rights are given to another author who can finish when Martin eventually passes.

    • @winterman8248
      @winterman8248 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Tyler_W the demon satan that helped martin write these stories has left him. Martin was inspired by demons and he would need to do bigger satanic sacrifices to call them back.
      not saying he should. but thats what they do.

    • @dobson.
      @dobson. Před 2 lety +4

      @@winterman8248 wtf are you even talking about

  • @made-line7627
    @made-line7627 Před 3 lety +19

    You'd think Melisandre would know that it's the *worse* choice to let the Wildlings die and become extra soldiers of the Army of the Dead.

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 3 lety +9

      That's a good point.. She must know something we don't. 🤔

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 Před 3 lety +7

      @@TalkingThrones True true...I hate that Bowen Marsh just doesn't get it (that it's worse to let the Wildlings die and come back as Wights), though Melisandre *could* know something else, I suppose!

  • @cookielove8174
    @cookielove8174 Před 3 lety +4

    Why did I feel sad at the end, like I didn't already know what was gonna happen 😔
    Thanks for another great refresher📖

  • @Asia6757
    @Asia6757 Před 2 lety +34

    The death of John Snow was the most devastating moment in television history. The Earth stopped turning

  • @snowybastard8786
    @snowybastard8786 Před 3 lety +2

    I love Game of Thrones but your videos taught me to love the Story. A Song of Ice and Fire.

  • @sarcasticsid5589
    @sarcasticsid5589 Před 3 lety +22

    I think she asked about Ghost to KEEP HIM AWAY. If Ghost had died with Jon he wouldn't have been able to send his life force into the pup. She wanted to keep Ghost safe to ensure his return.

    • @dobson.
      @dobson. Před 2 lety +9

      No. She said to keep him at his side at all times, a dire wolf is safer outside than in a cage, hence Robb and his wolf. The only reason it died was because Robb warged into it while it was in a cage

  • @bronfoth
    @bronfoth Před 3 lety +1

    Beautifully read... Thank you! 💖💕💖

  • @leosmith997
    @leosmith997 Před 3 lety +1

    I really like that all of your videos end in 5 or 0 man that’s real attention to detail

  • @sarahevans-politte4756
    @sarahevans-politte4756 Před 3 lety +21

    I finished "A Dance of Dragons," (epilogue) this morning. You are so right! This POV was so different from the books. I wish he listened to Melissandre. Jon had kept Ghost in his quarters because of the Wildling worg's enormous boar. Once He told everyone in the meeting that evening. Ghost was acting so weird. When he read the Rameses' letter to the men, his black brothers on the wall were so upset. No one knew of the glamour Mellisandre had cast on the willing that took Max Raider's place. And yes, I agree that they will put Jon in the ice cell and he will embody Ghost. I hope Jon is resurrected in the 'Winds Of Winter.'

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 3 lety +7

      I think he will be resurrected near the end of the book, right around the time the White Walkers invade/breach the Wall.

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je Před 2 lety +5

      @@TalkingThrones This is one idea, but I think we will get a Battle of the Bastards 2.0! (but without Stannis dying, of course, but if he dies, at least make it decent)

  • @chrisgermain3608
    @chrisgermain3608 Před 3 lety +24

    The Forsaken chapter gives me SO MUCH HOPE for TWOW!!

  • @zlaurie18
    @zlaurie18 Před rokem

    Fabulous explanation! Loved it.

  • @dougtexas
    @dougtexas Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for this! Have a great Thanksgiving!

  • @crowbear516
    @crowbear516 Před 3 lety +1

    After watching a couple of your videos, I can't decide if I should finally read the books or just binge watch your videos.

  • @melissablackwood
    @melissablackwood Před 3 lety +13

    Thinking it might be time to go back and re-read the books. It's been about 7 years and the show has drowned out some of the book canon in my brain.

    • @chanelawhina7523
      @chanelawhina7523 Před 3 lety +1

      Same here!! I'll have to look for my pdf versions.

    • @Thomk121
      @Thomk121 Před 3 lety +3

      Me too. I also need to reread to clear things up. I recently realized I was mixing the 2 together while talking about certain theories. My brother corrected me to my complete embarrasment. He has never read the books, only watched the show. So being corrected by him was shameful lol

    • @melissablackwood
      @melissablackwood Před 3 lety

      @@Thomk121 Oh the horror! We can't be havin' that.

  • @maratheharshal
    @maratheharshal Před rokem +1

    When I read this chapter, goosebumps, mad goosebumps!

  • @Itryhardder
    @Itryhardder Před rokem +1

    Been a fan of the show for a long time, just ordered my set of all the books last night and I can't wait to read them!

  • @michaelalan6459
    @michaelalan6459 Před 3 lety +22

    That's where Jon really is. He's been laying face down in the snow bleeding out for over ten years now. He isn't living happily ever after beyond the Wall with the wildlings.

    • @fanatik471
      @fanatik471 Před rokem +2

      Well he isnt dead and gone forever either

  • @corbinskywalker
    @corbinskywalker Před 3 lety +25

    GRRM PLANNED IT ALL

  • @AshishKumar.curiosity
    @AshishKumar.curiosity Před 3 lety

    Keep making these videos!🙂

  • @freerangegirl4457
    @freerangegirl4457 Před 3 lety

    Nicely done.
    More please.

  • @pedruski94
    @pedruski94 Před 3 lety +4

    I love the Song of ice and fire, and your videos, the only thing that bothers me is that this reminds me that winds of winter hasnt been released yet

  • @shannond7437
    @shannond7437 Před 3 lety +8

    1:28 If I recall, this was Selyse specifically saying to even let the children die. I think this had deeper meaning.

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah she did. Maybe it foreshadows her own thoughts toward her daughter.

  • @AbdulShinwari
    @AbdulShinwari Před 2 lety +7

    Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheeks. “For the Watch.” He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hand away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it.

  • @charlib68
    @charlib68 Před rokem

    Loved & enjoyed this video as well also having not read the books.

  • @radicalgambino2959
    @radicalgambino2959 Před 3 lety +13

    I'm still pissed at the ending of game of thrones

  • @Welsh_Dragon756
    @Welsh_Dragon756 Před rokem +6

    I wonder if Shireen will be burned by Stannis in the books as well. Remember it is mentioned constantly in the books that only death can pay for life....so maybe Stannis burns her thinking it is a last resort to save his battle but instead it only works to revive Jon.

    • @primaljoker3040
      @primaljoker3040 Před rokem +4

      Either way I doubt Shireen will have a happy ending unfortunately.

  • @Jockeylotforfun
    @Jockeylotforfun Před 3 lety +17

    Great Job Dan! I just realized something VERY important about Selyse Baratheon and her name! GRRM says, "1st, I must NAME the character to know who they are in the story". Selyse=Celice! A Celice is a belt, or garment (hair shirt from the Bible, spike belts etc) worn by ultra religious zealots and repentitents, designed to cause extreme pain, to mortify the flesh, etc! Selyse is a religious fanatic for the lord of light, and even burns her Florent Kinsman! I thought you might find that interesting.

    • @shannond7437
      @shannond7437 Před 3 lety +3

      My Lady! Long time no see! 💞💗💞

    • @Jockeylotforfun
      @Jockeylotforfun Před 3 lety +1

      @@shannond7437 HEY SHANNON 👋! I hope you and yours are all doing well and that you have a wonderful Thanksgiving! 🌹

    • @shannond7437
      @shannond7437 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Jockeylotforfun Happy Thanksgiving to you as well! Hope you are doing well!

    • @martinkerr2721
      @martinkerr2721 Před 2 lety

      florent kinsmen tv not books he get but in the dungeon on storm end but not burned thats in the show

  • @nicoles1633
    @nicoles1633 Před rokem

    This episode was sad. Thx for giving more context from the book.

  • @gaiashadowasmr6380
    @gaiashadowasmr6380 Před 3 lety +2

    Wow it has been so many years since that book came out and so many years since the series now that everything had blurred together in my mind. I had forgotten some of these details. It is time for a complete rereading of the books. Maybe by the time I have finished we will get another book?!? (Pls GRRM) Have you ever though of a chapter analysis starting from the beginning with preface & acknowledgments then individual chapters or a few chapters at a time? It would be so cool to get your book breakdowns in order. Once again great video TT. Warm wishes to you and Tasha, I like her, she rocks!

  • @kevindunne1009
    @kevindunne1009 Před 3 lety +5

    The epilogue of the book foreshadows the the end as it is about a dying man who happens to be a warg and jumps in and out of animals trying to find a suitable host to settle in. If I remember right he tried Snow but knew that someone else had a connection.

    • @moviesinminutes4057
      @moviesinminutes4057 Před rokem +2

      I think you mean the prologue! But I know what you’re talking about- that chapter was CRAZY!

  • @joybhowmick7970
    @joybhowmick7970 Před rokem

    This channel made me eager for the new books to be released

  • @tracymetherell8744
    @tracymetherell8744 Před 3 lety +2

    I hope these readings will interest more show watchers in the books. I have read them over and over. The audiobooks are great as well.

  • @mrittikmukherjee1347
    @mrittikmukherjee1347 Před 3 lety

    We need more of this!

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 3 lety +2

      I plan on making a bunch of videos like these. Thanks for watching this one!

  • @durwinpocha2488
    @durwinpocha2488 Před 3 lety +1

    Strong work! make more like it, book movie combo mombo.

  • @danjordan1
    @danjordan1 Před 3 lety +13

    Let's Talk

  • @MichaelNwah
    @MichaelNwah Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for this, it is spot on!. Enjoyed it. I’m not sure I’m reading them the right way so I want to start again and binge read them. I’m your opinion - What’s the best order to read the books?

  • @firebymisfire2640
    @firebymisfire2640 Před rokem +2

    Even tho I knew it was coming when reading the books the moment still caught me by surprise and it was still such a gut punch with how George pulled that one off, damn I hope he releases the next one

  • @adconreal8926
    @adconreal8926 Před 3 lety +1

    The mini-series just released is so much better then expected! Just awesome!!!

  • @DeLeonHD
    @DeLeonHD Před rokem

    I hate you! I had just considered reading the books again and was like "Nah man, no need to open that wound again" and I find this and now I want it so much more!!! Excellent video, excellent delivery.

  • @thatsweetblendwithkimruedi4054

    Love me some Jon Snow! So anxiously to see what GRRM has in store for him!!! COME ON WOW!!!

  • @jessisanchez8150
    @jessisanchez8150 Před rokem

    I'm not a book reader so I really appreciate your vids

  • @PeterEhik
    @PeterEhik Před rokem +1

    Jon is just so much better in the books, I mean he’s great in the show too for the first 6 seasons. I love his chapters

  • @allenlicn
    @allenlicn Před rokem +1

    Jon Snow woke up from death and had a weird dream that was rest of season 5 to season 8

  • @jeangove01
    @jeangove01 Před 3 lety +22

    Aren't you assuming that Jon and Stannis are on the same exact timeline?

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  Před 3 lety +9

      Yep

    • @brianvice1144
      @brianvice1144 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TalkingThrones There was no way to tell whether Ramsay had defeated Stannis or not
      You're making a big assumption based on zero evidence

    • @Micheal93k
      @Micheal93k Před 3 lety +1

      @@brianvice1144 there's plenty of evidence. Just search. One I can remember off the top of my head is the fact that the letter sent to Jon didn't have flayed skin with it. Considering he notes in the letter to Jon that Stannis is dead and he flayed the 6 spearwives, the letter not being accompanied by flayed skin is odd.

    • @brianvice1144
      @brianvice1144 Před 3 lety

      @@Micheal93k Wtf?
      Yeah man. You got me.
      Conjecture is a *kind* of evidence

    • @Micheal93k
      @Micheal93k Před 3 lety +1

      @@brianvice1144 funny, because your opinion to the contrary is conjecture in and of itself. Seeing as we had 2 to 3 POV characters that can tell us what is happening at Winterfell, but all we get is a unreliable letter.

  • @wolfthornhawkridge5705
    @wolfthornhawkridge5705 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent read!

  • @leandrosele2105
    @leandrosele2105 Před 3 lety

    I love your videos, your channel is amazing. By the way I am fifteen and I should probably not read these books but now it's too late. Lol

  • @rociomiranda5684
    @rociomiranda5684 Před 3 lety

    I'm reading the books and watching your videos.

  • @kunaldhillon7430
    @kunaldhillon7430 Před 3 lety +1

    This intro gave me goosebumps

  • @TheSheridanMusic
    @TheSheridanMusic Před 3 lety +2

    I cannot wait for this book

  • @mekasa6721
    @mekasa6721 Před 3 lety +11

    Jon is coming back as The Night King 🔥🤯

  • @cynhanrahan4012
    @cynhanrahan4012 Před 2 lety +4

    And considering that familiar traveling runs in the family ie Bran, it makes sense that Jon could go into Ghost. What happened to Ghost when Jon came back?

  • @BrutalGames
    @BrutalGames Před 3 lety +1

    Please make more Book chapter breakdowns

  • @carypeterson9554
    @carypeterson9554 Před 2 lety +3

    Snow’s murder reminded me of Julius Caesar’s death.

  • @JaiAuthenti
    @JaiAuthenti Před 3 lety +3

    I like this version but the show version wasn’t too bad either. Not being a book reader, it had me in shock!

  • @samwize28
    @samwize28 Před 3 lety +7

    If watching D&D butcher seasons 5-8 doesn’t motivate you to pick up the books for the first time, nothing will

  • @AshleyxVlogs
    @AshleyxVlogs Před 3 lety +2

    We need the books to come out 😩

  • @lidia5094
    @lidia5094 Před 3 lety +19

    "He never felt the fourth knife" could it be because he'd already warged into Ghost?

    • @aleemizcool3654
      @aleemizcool3654 Před 2 lety +5

      No, he wargs after he died. He never felt the fourth knife because instead he feels the cold from the snow as he falls face down into it

    • @TXbornTNpaid615
      @TXbornTNpaid615 Před rokem

      Lmao. He NEVER wargs into ghost.

    • @lidia5094
      @lidia5094 Před rokem

      @@TXbornTNpaid615 even wargs that have never warged in life are implied to warg into their wolves after death to begin their second life (too much “warging” 😂) anyways it’s just a theory

  • @WJSMAIDEN89
    @WJSMAIDEN89 Před 3 lety +2

    The only 2 people I could think that wrote the letter would be Ramsay or Mance.

  • @yankeeshane674
    @yankeeshane674 Před 3 lety +3

    So something I just remembered at 9:34 is I believe it’s Asha’s last chapter, (Yara in the books) She’s at Stannis’ camp and Theon gets brought to Stannis’ camp, along with Jeyne and the iron banker. If Ramsey had written that letter then he would have already had Theon and “Arya” aka jeyne back, (had his letter actually been real and his battle with Stannis actually happened). So Ramsey definitely did not write that letter. King Stannis Baratheon will take back Winterfell, aided by the iron bank with food men and supplies once the castle is taken. Next book is going to be awesome. Really hoping we get a Stannis pov.

    • @PedroLucas-mg5je
      @PedroLucas-mg5je Před rokem +1

      I'll be forever pissed with George for not writing POVs for Robb, Robert, Tywin, Stannis and Young Griff!

  • @JoniukasVader
    @JoniukasVader Před 3 lety +6

    Talk Time!

  • @isabellaluraschi1620
    @isabellaluraschi1620 Před 3 lety +2

    Gosh I really need to get those books and start reading them. Why did they have to mess with the giant thought??

  • @b2themc
    @b2themc Před 3 lety +15

    Wasn't it the wildling Lord of Bones that was burned in the book in place of Mance or am I mistaken?

  • @MRDX-ej4yq
    @MRDX-ej4yq Před 3 lety +4

    When i read this.... I tought that jon was complete disaster at leading....

  • @dawndeeearven1616
    @dawndeeearven1616 Před 3 lety

    Hey hey hey 👋🏼 longtime brother Thanks for sharing this

  • @thesmuli83
    @thesmuli83 Před 3 lety +8

    Jon Snow King In The North⚔🏹🐺

    • @ce666isa3
      @ce666isa3 Před 3 lety +2

      Might most likely be the night King
      (the book definition of the night king not show)

    • @AnkitSingh-cd7tw
      @AnkitSingh-cd7tw Před 3 lety

      No

  • @dawndeeearven1616
    @dawndeeearven1616 Před 3 lety +5

    Always Sending Healing Love Lights Peace and Comfort for y’all 🌈🍀🧚🏼‍♀️🥰

  • @leehara2547
    @leehara2547 Před 3 lety

    Wow great to hear how Jon really died.. good reading..

  • @sketchersstar
    @sketchersstar Před 3 lety +1

    U should also make a video on how varys killed kevan Lannister

  • @fameasser123
    @fameasser123 Před rokem +2

    So was jon killed in front of the wildlings and everyone at castle black? Thats what I understood from the ending of this video

  • @yokaibyte2133
    @yokaibyte2133 Před 3 lety +3

    Is it just me or did they never answer the question of what happens to the babies that are taken.
    I think the babies are how the white walkers come back.

  • @crownhoneycleaners5553

    Wow!

  • @mousamnagar1938
    @mousamnagar1938 Před 3 lety +9

    So in the books the wildlings can go extinct

    • @shannond7437
      @shannond7437 Před 3 lety +5

      Unlikely, they have the largest number in various positions.

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 Před 3 lety +6

      And turn into Wights 🎉

  • @ubzSS
    @ubzSS Před 3 lety +1

    that would have been coo to see

  • @juantaste8603
    @juantaste8603 Před 3 lety +4

    The fact you suggested the pink letter could've been written by stannis or mance or melisandre themselves is ridiculous. It was most clearly his nights watch brothers.

    • @parkchantelle5227
      @parkchantelle5227 Před 3 lety +4

      Nobody knew about Mance Rayder still alive in the book at this point, except Jon and Melisandre.

    • @juantaste8603
      @juantaste8603 Před 3 lety

      @@parkchantelle5227 Bowen Marsh and others were skeptical of this and as much was implied

    • @juantaste8603
      @juantaste8603 Před 3 lety +1

      @@parkchantelle5227 the letter was written so he would forsake his vows, which gave his brothers an excuse to do what they did

  • @ania8009
    @ania8009 Před 3 lety +2

    I wish he would finish the books already 😢

  • @marcussparkus2733
    @marcussparkus2733 Před 3 lety +1

    The letter was written by the karstarks maester. Stanis captures a maester writing a letter he says the letter contained a map but stanis doesn't believe him. Maester was goating jon because he believes stanis is going to loose and he doesn't want ramsey in winterfell

  • @Distrunner5k
    @Distrunner5k Před 3 lety +1

    Shame we will never get to read the next book

  • @calebhudson8310
    @calebhudson8310 Před 3 lety

    I know this is completely off topic but are by any chance from Pittsburg?

  • @rustcohle4491
    @rustcohle4491 Před 3 lety +1

    They should hire you for the prequel series