Pastor Doesn't Want to Cast the Pearls Before the Swine | Eugene - OR | Talk Heathen 02.32
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- Talk Heathen 02.32 for August 12, 2018 with Eric Murphy and Jamie Boone.
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The saddest part is that the pastor thinks he's casting pearls when they're actually cheap fakes.
Its deeper than that. We assign value, we arbitrate beauty. A pearl is ugly to a person who only enjoys dark colors, a pearl is valueless unless it is made an idol of material possession.
To caste these pearls is to make, and abide by, a shallow assumption. This is what happened here in the vid to prove that.
It's just a "Pearl" necklace made out of mints
@@mineduck3050
Pearls were considered of worth, 2000 thousand years ago due to their rarity, just like other rare metals like silver or gold.
I'm not sure individual perspective applies to currency? 🤔
Society applies value, individuals can apply value, but that only effects the individual, not society.
“Beware of imitators such as; not giving a shit, not giving a cunt suck, and Nick Nolte.”
_"The saddest part is that the pastor thinks he's casting pearls when they're actually cheap fakes."_
Cheap fakes made of fossilised bull crap.
Did he really say he and his eight congregants raised someone from the dead?
{:-:-:}
I get the feeling Eugene hasn't had many conversations with nobelievers where he didn't control the situation. You can see him trying all the tricks that work on his flock and being baffled that they aren't working.
Mostly this.
I get the feeling Eugene was drunk.
You're exactly right. These people have scripts that they depend on. They can't stand it when they're derailed.
@@lizd2943 u know?now that i listen to his voice and the way he's talking again,it might be very plausible he was drunk.i mean he had the guts to claim and say out loud that he raised the dead lmfao :)))))))
Yep. A lot of people lack the critical thinking tools and education necessary to deal with preachers like this one.
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person; it's impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." -- Bill Murray
“NEVER ARGUE WITH STUPID PEOPLE. THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.”
-Mark Twain
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
I am *dying* over here. I laughed so hard I *snorted* . My coworkers want to know what’s going on but once I started with “atheist podcast” they went quiet cause they’re “god-fearing”.
I’m glad I have no fear of some invisible being.
Recommend them a phone number. If you know where I'm going with this
I met a guy today that was literally being emotionally abused by god. That "god fearing" part is too accurate, and not for the reasons they suspect
Tannis penne or tagliatelle? My favourite pasta is the twists!!
Maybe it was cause you were watching videos instead of working and not because they were "God-fearing"
Pastor doesn't realise that his "pearls" are actually goat droppings and the "swine" are actually intelligent reasoning humans.
Its because he was looking at them upside down that they looked like pigs. he has x-ray vision after all.
johnnybgoodeish 💯💯 so fucking dead on
Brilliant 😂
Bullshit!
Goat droppings are useful.
I thought that phrase was about how masturbation was wrong, but the bible was just being coy about it.
I saw a man rise from the dead in my church when I was a Christian. He had a heart attack. The paramedics were called, the congregation prayed. The medics shocked him and he raised from the dead. This is still claimed to be a miracle and that God raised him from death twenty years later. God got the credit and the medics never got a look in.
The comedian Daniel sloss has a really good bit about this. The bit is titles something like "thanking God instead of doctors"
"If I remember correctly, you came to ME for help, I diagnosed you, and prescribed a treatment. In fact, if I remember even further back, He's the one that gave you cancer. Why? Hmmm, maybe because you're an ungrateful fuck." Loved his expressions in that bit.
That always happened in 'Champion the Wonder Horse.'. Rebel, the dog in the TV programme, did all the hard work, arranged the rescue services, generally saved the day and if he was lucky, had a bark or two in the last seconds. The blinking horse who just shook his main, neighed like an idiot (well a horse) and just happened to be in the general area had a whole TV production with his name on it. Oh the injustice! It used to really bug me as a kid and now I see God is doing the same. Naughty chap!
Shocks don't actually restart hearts. In fact, they work by stopping a heartbeat-a weird, problem heartbeat, that is. A powerful electric shock can actually CTRL-ALT-DELETE a heart that's pumping irregularly or too fast, in hopes of resetting the heart to its correct rhythm. Only chest compressions can do that (or direct heart compressions if the person is being operated on and the chest is already open.
The whole shocks restarting hearts thing is actually a fiction.
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Kazira S
Reminds me of this _true_ story:
Rachel is a very religious woman. One day, a local river bursts its banks and floods her town. The mayor warns everyone to leave. Everyone panics and starts evacuating except for Rachel, who says God will save her.
Soon, the water has filled her first floor, and Rachel goes up to a second story window. A rescuer passes by in a rowboat and offers to help Rachel leave, but she says no - God will save her.
Next, the water rises even further and Rachel clambers up on her roof. A helicopter passes and a rescuer offers to take Rachel away, but she refuses, explaining that God will save her.
Finally, the water rises even higher and Rachel drowns. She goes to Heaven, where she comes face to face with God and asks, “Why didn’t you save me?”
“I tried,” explains God. “First I sent you an evacuation order from the mayor, but you didn’t listen. Then I sent you a rescuer in a rowboat and you didn’t listen. Then I sent you a rescue helicopter - and still you ignored me!”
Is there freewill in heaven?
Yes
Is there evil in heaven?
No.
So they can't do evil things in heaven ... but still have freewill ?
According to the Bible, WAR broke out in heaven.
Revelation 12:7 Then war broke out in heaven.
l always thought heaven was supposed to be a peaceful place, that nothing bad happens there? LOL 😆
Well anyway, glad l'm a Atheist now.
@@carerforever2118 wait you think they actually read the whole book? ;)
I think most Christians read more of the bible walking down the home decor aisle of a Target and reading the inspirational wall hangings than they have from the book itself
Maybe you are able to do evil things in heaven but you get catapulted out at the precise moment of execution?
My apologetic answer is Gods spirit would make you want to only do good things.
@@G_killer_
Would make me?
So.... no freedom of choice in "heaven".....
"I can levitate and fly around the room."
Wow!! That's something that sounds incredible. Can I see you do it?
"I can tell that you don't believe me."
Well, it does sound rather... unusual.
"So you are an unbeliever. You are not worthy of my time or effort. Be gone."
Gary "darth dawkins" Milne... everywhere....
A friend of my father's who had a beat up old car said one evening he could create a new car with the power of his mind. My father asked why he didn't then, seeing he was driving round in a banger. 'You wouldn't believe me.' It never ends, does it?
"my congregation of 8 people resurrected someone from the dead"
sounds more like a cult to me lmao
name as the Christians would say, unholy witch craft
It’s more like - As long as there are absolutely no follow up questions ‘my congregation of 8people resurrected someone from the dead’
He died for people' sins, he fucked up everything by waking up, he shud have stayed dead.
It's necromancy if anyone else did it 🙈
All religions are cults.
You know why children lie? Because they don't want to get in trouble. Its called self presveration. Not "sin".
Or they want mommy to pay attention to them.
How would lying be a productive way of gaining attention from an adult?
Unless the lies were in some way fantastical like 'Mummy, I just stabbed Daddy in the back and he's lying on the floor in the basement - come and look!'
@@leephcom Negative attention is still attention.
Exactly and if childern are empowered and raised with love and compassion they may never need to lie.Childern lie because of dysfunctional family systems
@@deanreadman3263 Nailed it.
This caller seems to preach the "Born in sin" doctrine. All children are born evil sinners and need to be purified. Can you imagine what a warped upbringing his kids must endure? To be told that you are bad just for being born and must be "saved". Horrible.
"So how do you know the bible is true"
"Well because of the holy spirit"
"How do you know the holy spirit exists?
"Well the bible says he does"
A classic circular argument 🤣
It amazes me that the Holy Spirit is true yet tells people to believe the Bible but the Bible is wrong.
@Richard Arena Bravo, bravo, you certainly destroyed that strawman.
I suppose at least HS can COMMUNICATE.
So, does HS communicate CONSISTENTLY, also?
@Richard Arena point to the doll where reality touched you in a bad way.....
I love that Eugene starts off by telling you he can raise the dead and then calls you a pig for asking him how he did it!!! But I must say a good magician never gives away their secrets...
With 9 thumbs down at the this time, it appears the good pastor and his flock have all come here to downvote the video.
no its us normal people who think these two hosts suck they let pastor get away with everything it was joke why have show to be bitch they did more damage then anything . you are just fanboy of nazi group ACA and cant grasp normal liberals see them as the problem the far fra left scum bags that are finally dying faster then even religious now days
Its funny you say that because at this moment it is at 81, he said he had 80 followers, and counting him. How ironic.
It won't be them, they're not allowed internet.
HellBringer that sentence looks like it was typed by a 6 year old
Jordan Bowman 🤣
I really wanted to hear how Eugene and his eight buddies raised someone from the dead!
Dale Reynolds.
I bet it was the paramedics that did it.
1 had a defibrillator, the other 7 prayed.
Me too!!!!!
T-Virus.
He rolled a natural 20.
The Bible: making atheists one reader at a time 😎
Both presenters made so many excellent points/arguments that left the pastor absolutely defeated.
Well done
I'll say this: The pokemon reference almost went right past me!! XD
6:05
Pastor: "Have you ever 'Encountered' a child?"
Jamie: "Yes, I was in tall grass, a level 5 child appeared, and I captured it."
Me: "............. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!"
*GASP* Its evolving..............
You got a lvl 1 theist.
Tyler James Yes that was clever. Needless to say it went right over the callers head.
I laughed so hard when he said that 😂
i did wonder wtf he was talking about. thanks
My child just learned quick attack, now when we’re at the grocery store and someone’s about to take the last bottle of OJ, ‘child use quick attack’
I've got this feeling that somewhere in Oregon, there's a mental asylum that's missing 9 patients.
Great Comment! Mental asylum is located in Salem, Oregon. Just north of Eugene on Interstate 5!
I'm dead XD
@Toughen Up, Fluffy There were a lot more than 9 of them in the "family". 9 convictions related to the Tate and LaBianca murders perhaps.
I think there's a morgue missing nine bodies...
"Goddammit. I'll get it this time. RISE, you bastard. Gnaaaaeeeerghhhh!!!!"
That's ableist
I love how this dude opens up with 'Yeah my church brought back the dead' and the wants to just move past that. Bro if you could revive the dead you'd be a global phenomenon, no question about it.
*Gets insulted and called swine
Eric: I just want to say, I ADORE this conversation
Every..damn..time hahaha
Lying is actually a significant stage in a child's cognitive development. A child's first lie should be celebrated! It indicates that (s)he has acquired a sense of self and agency within reality and is exploring the manipulation of reality. The extent to which this person will amend reality in future and the extent to which they will do so to socially useful or socially destructive ends remains to be developed, of course.
There's a big difference between telling a lie and knowing a lie. I tell our janitor at work he does a good job of cleaning, knowing very well he sucks at it. I told him a lie knowing I did.
As an ex-Child-and-Youth Care Worker I have to agree.
I have no problem saying I lie today, to save myself....like when a girlfriend says her friend needs help moving Saturday ‘Sorry I’ve got to drive to the next town to pick up work supplies can only do it Saturday’....I have no problem with that I don’t think it’s ‘sinful’....it’s a far bigger sin to ask me to help move! But I don’t even believe ‘sins’ are a thing in the first place.
Yes! Child development is fascinating right? I had one child who constructed a complicated story pretending his papa had said yes to a popsicle, he opened papas door stick his head in a moment, very quietly shut the door of his sleeping papa and exclaimed"he said yes!"
He was only 2 and are they just developmentally he should have only been beginning lies of omission.....
I was so proud
No one got it
Lying for Jesus is part of being a christian
So the pastor thinks that lying is a sin, yet he's lying through back teeth....
If you have read the bible carefully and still believe in it, you are awful aswell. Maybe not in character, because people who believe can be good, but you may not have understood anything that is written in there at all. @ashleys religious videos
@Vincent Roche Where did I say that? I said that many passages in the bible are aweful. Everyone who cares to read the bible unbiased will undoubtely be aware of that fact. If you remain or turn into a believer after reading the bible, you are either awful aswell, or you pick and choose the good passages and only promote those. Either one is not a good reason to become or stay a believer.
@joshmbrown42 He said they raised the dead at his church. He knows they didn’t raise the dead, so he’s lying about that, at least.
no, I don't think he's lying, people like the hovinds or ken ham they lie, no this guy is Unfortunately so indoctrinated and blinded by his dogma and his beliefs that he can't see logic or reason. unfortunately I think he is too far gone to be reasoned with its quite sad really
@@joshmbrown42 I'd argue that it's a lie to spread an opinion as though it's life-changing truth without verifying it first.
i love when you can hear the caller breathing into their phone as if they're just huffing and puffing and pacing back and forth trying to come up with a way to rationalize their belief
It blows my mind that a person can live their entire lives studying the Bible and they never think to ask these questions.
There told since they was very little to never question anything it says
Curiosity is removed by shame very early. Once thats gone its a lot easier to avoid questions. I remember as a kid being told my faith wasn't strong enough any time i had questions. I quit asking but kept my curiosity anyway, so as an adult I started asking again.😊
It's so amazing how unintelligent people can become when they simply don't have, nor exercise, the skill of rational thinking.
Dogma truly damages the brain.
Raising the dead?
Was he talking about taking Viagra?
Karl Dubhe LOL!!!
Dead 😄😄😄
Lol!!!😂😂😂
Lol
Circle Jerk both physically and mentally
16:21 "There must be a balance."
Thanos...is that you?
Lmaooo “defeated” atheists ...... sure ya’ did, sir
If the Eden myth was real and not just a myth, then sin should have ended with Adam and Eve.
Punishing billions who had nothing to do with the original "crime", is one of the most evil concepts ever imagined.
I agree, punishing the innocent for the crimes of a previous generation is the height of evil.
According to Christianity a baby born out of rape is responsive for that crime sick
Oh yeah. And in addition to the original sin abomination in Jewish and Christian myths, there is also the sins of the father bullshit that is supposed to be passed down for 7 generations or some such nonsense.
That would be like your grandpa getting convicted of a series of heinous crimes and receiving 8 consecutive life sentences. And since he could only serve one, then your dad would then have to fill in for him for the second sentence, you fill in for the third, and onward until all 8 have been served.
No one in their right mind would find such a penal system in the real world acceptable. Why the fuckity fuck do they think that is acceptable in their religion? ( to roughly borrow a sentiment from DarkMatter2525)
It's even worse than that. According to the Genesis account, God created Adam and Eve without the capacity to understand the concept of sin. They had no "knowledge of good and evil" and yet he killed them and condemned their progeny to eternal torment due to choices they were not even aware they were making.
You are not being punished for Adam's disobedience per se. We have just inherited a sinful nature. The punishment any unbeliever receives will be because of their own sin.
Is this what cognitive dissonance sounds like? When you can justify the lies and genocide committed by an alleged God, but condemn those same actions if done by a person?
You are correct, Eugene seems to have a bad case of cognitive dissonance. I believe it is because he was abused in his childhood to believe in hell, heaven and a just god that condemns us.
I believe AGrayPhantom is referring to the genocide committed by the god of the Israelites during the exodus and reconquering of the promised land. Good and evil can be judged by the harm they do or the help they do to others. This is not absolute or objective, just as the morals given from the bible and religion are not absolute or objective. The religious get around the Bible by telling us we are not interpreting it correctly. That is a big cop-out. The Bible says what it says. It is simplistic for a simplistic people working in the bronze age. I hope you've noticed my explanation of good and evil was ontological, showing the relations between the concepts and categories in a subject area.
Bluemonsoon newflash christians don’t have the objective moral foundation they think they do either.
Bluemonsoon I'm confused. You're advocating as objective morality things like slavery, torture, holding children responsible for their parent's crimes. The murder of innocent children, not stepping in to stop child abuse, and so much more. Your moral standards are for shit. You don't get to lie and imply they aren't.
Bluemonsoon, drowning an entire generation of innocent infants and children for the misdemeanor of their horrible parents, with foreknowledge that you would do so even before their creation, is genocide. Call it what you wish, forget that it is said to have happened, say that it was a loving thing to do, spin it however you want, it is the definition of genocide.
‘I can raise the dead and that’s all I’ve got to say about that!’ ..... wait what? 😳
Every time someone like this comes on, you can tell by the giddy smiles that they are going to have a field day
this is horrible to watch. . . every time he gets to a point where he doesnt like he goes side way and starts to preach. .
Religion in a nutshell
They go into "gibberish mode" as soon as they cant answer,if they cant answer just say it dont start doing a misfit cause you didnt understand it.
whats worse is how they do shit they let him walk all over them this show is sad another sponcerd nazi joke put out by nazi scum of ACA.
@@Godslayer1975 How often do people tell you to get psychiatric help?
Baseless assertions. His supporting evidence?
More baseless assertions.
He wants us all to live in a celestial N.Korea.
- C.H.
He says that "we all sin" with such a passion that there is no doubt in my mind that his sins are pretty serious.
Eugene totally sounds like he’s overflowing with joy
I'd replace joy with deranged evil
I can't believe Eugene has 8 people who can actually tolerate his droning on with his depressing "we are all pathetic, sick and damaged goods" with a fatal prognosis, of course unless we grovel to his particular unsubstantiated deity in hope of being cured. "Eternal salvation ...or triple your money back."
So he called the show just to insult the hosts by calling them swine, I thought Jesus was love LMAO.
Um... he didnt exactly do that and hesitated to clarify that its what he thought of them even when asked.
@@smackfanxion Doesn't matter. Slip of tongue is usually the real thought, not self-editing. Especially NOT self-editing AFTER the words are spoken and the damage made. The moment he spontaneously compare other humans to swine for not subscribing to his beliefs, he has proven himself to be an awful human being.
@@user-gb7ji6xy5d
This is way to old for me to care about most of it but "Slip of tongue is usually the real thought"
...?
On what planet are you living? 100% or the people Iv known in my life speak more than they think. Myself included. The best of us review what we say and correct etc etc but the reason we correct something we say is because it doesnt accurately reflect our thoughts.
@@smackfanxion Bull fucking shit.
@@smackfanxion your thought process is exactly why I don't care about "I'm sorry's" because it doesn't mean shit. If you were truly sorry you wouldn't have done/said it in the first place. Saying sorry is admittance to being a piece of shit and your asking the person to forgive your shitienes.
What a master of changing the subject whenever the conversation gets tough.
It will never not be sad to hear grown adults talking about magic and invisible friends
the bible is right because the bible is right
Or because it says that it's right?
Can I just say. I am a "conflicted" Christian (and it scares me to say that, yes) but I greatly appreciate Eric and Jaime's calm, kind demeanors. You two are very relatable and I look forward to more of your content. Subbed!
At least your not just listening to preachers and actually going to atheist media to learn, from atheists, their position.
It is a journey to really look at long held religious beliefs critically and logically. Take comfort in the fact that you are not alone.
Hi Traci. I read your comment and wanted to check how you are doing now (since it says you commented a year ago). I hope you have worked through it into a better place.
@@dearden6680 Hey there, thank you for checking on me! Well I'm definitely not a Christian anymore; but I guess I'd call myself agnostic since I can't quiiiiite let go of the belief in a God. I plan on calling the AXP again one of these sundays! :D
@@OCDTraci Thank you for the update! It's good to hear from you, and to hear good news. I wish you well going forward.
Caller: you are swine
Eric: thanks for being kind
Priceless.
I really commend you all for the way you handled the Pastor. I would not have been so kind and patient.......
I’m playing Final Fantasy 7 and I just raised Tifa from the dead using a Phoenix Down...resurrection happens and I CAN prove it. But seriously, I’m surprised that they let that one slide.
Because they knew it only goes back to old arguments of "faith" among other non-sensical roads. At the end, clearly he was cornered about god being an unjust character, he still couldn't answer that honestly. There isn't much point about asking him about resurrection. That would be a wild goose chase.
Careful though, for some reason items don't work if you get injured in a FMV cutscene.
Save the titties as triangular as they are.
😂😂😂😂
they arent very good at pinning people against their words
My experience of a church pastor or priest "defeating" an atheist is simply preaching at the pulpit & not confronting any at all. Essentially _preaching at the choir,_ lobbing insults & cursing them as the _choir_ applaud or shout utterations like _"Amen!!",_ _"Praise the Lord!",_ or _"Jesus saves!"_
@Hillary's emails to Lorne LOL!
Another one in love with the sound of his own voice.
I find it interesting that Eugene considers his turd balls as pearls... a little bit arrogant of him isn't it
I wonder if he knows that Mithras also allegedly rose from the dead after 3 days.
To be fair, it was on the third day, not 3 days later. So he was actually dead for let's say, a day and a half, maybe?
8 congregates? Really? This guy is the leader of a cult 🙄
JT all religions are cults dude, check out the definition.
I’ll bet they are all his family members.
Compared to all the other christian pastors?
Exactly what I was thinking lol
Not a cult a Circle Jerk.
Whoo! 12:20 "is there anything that someone could do to you that you would subject them to enteral torment? YOU Eugene?" Best line EVER!!!! 13:28 Bring it home. Is the torment worse than hell? "no." Would you wish that on anyone? "no." then you are more moral than your god.
This is why I still listen to you and continue to find my knowledge with your help.
"I'm a pastor of a small congregation of eight members....raising the dead"
Isn't necromancy considered witchcraft?
Brah sorceries and miralces are TOTALLY diffrent things: Ask Dark Souls
@@shapeless6755 Lord Gwyn would kick the shit out of Yahweh.
@@_Somsnosa_ Thor may have. Still got the hammer!!
burning to eternity is JUST... thanks god!
Guys, I absolutely loved this video.
You both remained patient and calm despite Eugene's clear contradictions and evasiveness. You asked clear, simple questions with an obvious conclusion yet Eugene still avoided that conclusion somehow.
However, some of his long silent pauses make me hope that Eugene may actually *think* about some of the questions you asked and it is refreshing to come across a Christian who is prepared to reason as Eugene did.
It would be great to watch more interactions with theists like this one and I've subscribed as I'm really hoping Eugene will call back.
Love your work guys. Thank you. 👍
His answer to the problem of evil is essentially "in order to appreciate all the times I'm not beating you, I need to beat you first."
My journey to disbelief started when I was a kid. I went to a Vatican 2 catholic school and had religion classes every day as well as a high grade standard in all subjects including science. One day this little thought popped into my head ‘How do we know Jesus was really the son of god and not just some guy with delusions of grandeur?’ It was funny at the time, but as time went on it started coming up more and more frequently. Once every other year, every year, a few times a year, once a month, so on and so forth. The more I learned in all my other school subjects the more the answer seemed to be ‘nobody knows at all.’ By my sophomore or junior year of high school I suddenly realized I was deconverting...and I didn’t mind.
That logical argument about free will in heaven made me deconvert. Cool to see it brought up.
I would’ve liked to hear more about the dead people he brought back.
Clearly, his god doesn't raise the brain-dead.
@Pepper Talks There were no dead people brought back. Some Christians resort to lying to try to convert people.
nucipter termer: As well as to further their own agenda.
"You won't believe me because of your sin" 😆🤣😂
This is a perfect call: the caller's 'don't mean to be condescending' but believes he is talking to the 'swine,' the hosts holding his feet to the fire and making him accountable to his statements, and the challanges given to the caller...
The very first sentences this guy said and the self-righteous stance, as though he had the right to cast insults in a passive-aggressive because he believes 100% he is a greater person than these guys, could have been written for my him by my father. He tried to argue god with me once, it was highly entertaining.
@@arachnipope They do that until you put them in their place. They stop lecturing you on religion when you start giving them a world of shit every time they bring it up. Keep calling their conclusions "retarded" and that you think they might actually be retarded. They'll stop.
There was one little moment near the end that made me so happy - when he had a very clear hesitation, where he was seriously entertaining the idea and what follows from it...
I realize the subsequent affirmation of atrocity took the attention after that, but don't forget that little moment - there was real, substantive thinking happening in that moment.
After listening to Paster Eugene I understand why his congregation consists of a total of 8 members. I wonder what his day job is since he can’t live off donations from 8 people. Home Depot maybe?
At least Home Depot is honest work, unlike pastoring
Makes you wonder (let's say out of the hundreds of candidates for his congregation) what made this crazy 8 decide that Eugene was a thoughtful enough guy and had the expertise to lead them. These 8 must be special... lol. Short bus special.
Well, he can depend on always having the eight, because if they die he can bring them back.
Take a drink every time Eugene starts a sentence with, "Well..."
You'll either be drunk or going to the bathroom every 5 minutes by the end of this video. ^_~
I know both hosts from my time at the library. They are great. Indeed. And as an atheist listening to their dialogue helps me with my daily talk with theist people. Thanks guys. I've got your back. Take care.
"The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith, I am nothing.' 'But, says Man, the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.' 'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that,' and vanishes in a puff of logic. 'Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
Gotta love Douglas Adams.
Love that Douglas Adams.
You see *that's* a book worth reading. Thank the universe for Douglas Adams 👍
"I know that's not real because a ghost told me." Brilliant, Eugene.
My FAVORITE interaction so far!!
Great job guys 👏
Ah... calling that stuff pearls is like polishing feces.
This is almost sad
Almost?
MandelbrothFractal Killer
Not all of America is this dumb. That becomes more prevalent as you get into the Bible Belt where in-breading has brought IQ's to a Dangerous low.
And I don't think it is as much ignorance as it is arrogance. And that is sad
"He knew we would have this conversation, yet didn't supply you with better responses."
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The fiery furnace analogy had me dying because he couldn't be logically consistent 😂
This video is total entertainment. I have to admit Eugene caused me to feel so sick at my stomach. I was blown away by how Jamie and Eric handled this guy!
He can't be anything but just? So, that means he can't be merciful - which is the suspension of justice. So much for heaven.
I admire these guys patience.I would have lost it with this guys marathon of circular reasoning
I like this guy, he really is sincere, polite and mostly honest. I think calling in made him realize a lot of his own logical inconsistencies in his own religious views.
A congregation of 8 ? Amazed he can count that high...!
@Robert Price Then again.... given the level of stupidity.... the guy might just call "8" a hangar full of his fellow zombies ^^
Stop😂
Enjoying the show. Keep it up.
This was one of my favourite conversations yet,, brilliant,!!
you two are my FAVORITE duo in this show, YOU ARE SO GREAT AND ENTERTAININGGGG
Jesus: Let me in
Me: Why?
Jesus: Because i'm here to save you.
Me: From what?
Jesus: From what i'm going to do to you unless you let me in.
Not mine but sums it up pretty well i think.
Not mine either, but I use it too. The classic mob boss Jesus.
I've always felt like God is a narcissist. It's like, if you don't love me and believe in my book, I swear I'll burn you forever! Yet these people call him a loving God? Surely none of us would burn someone forever, right? So if we're made in the image of God, why is he more violent than we are? This has always baffled my mind.
I really admire how these guys can keep their shit together. infinite patience.
"Don't cast pearls before the swine" = "don't try to convince people that don't believe already."
Excellent and terrible advice, Bible.
You guys are doing a great job. I really believe open information will help the next generation reject these silly myths
great job guys, what a tap dancer.
They sure like their poetry.
I'd like to see these 8 followers of his...are 7 of the 8 especially young looking females who may or may not have a missing posters somewhere...clothing that is uniformish....glazed expressions from drinking some holy koolaid maybe...I'm just saying, this guy's given off some Jim jones/David koresh vibes.
THAT was excellent. Im humbled.
They gave him hell 😂😂😂😂
If you talk to a theist, once they get called out on something they immediately change subjects. Keep them on topic, don't let them go.
Jamie and Eric maintain such patience and composure.
And I captured it....... Brilliant.
Each theist is wackier than the previous one. It's so difficult to listen to.
Tony Mitchell so true
I find this quite enjoyable
If you think this guy is hard to listen to, then you havent heard many.
Spiritdove No, they are wacky. I was raised in a Christian household. Went to church just about every Sunday as a kid. And I have never considered myself a Christian. It’s just all about how you think.
@Spiritdove
Wrong. They are wacky. Also, they are misinformed because they choose to be.
One can be taught poorly as a child but still become an informed adult.
It's called personal responsibility. Which is something that christians already preach about.
I’m pretty Eugene is eating a Werthers Original through the entire call
Thank you Eric for keeping Jamie honest during this debate.
TH: "So how do you know the bible is true"
Pastor: "Well because of the holy spirit"
TH: "How do you know the holy spirit exists?
Pastor: "Well the bible says he does"
2 minutes later
Pastor: "What I'm saying is Dishonesty, Deception, Bearing False Witness; these are sins."
You're a hypocrite, pastor.
A pastor is a hypocrit? Surely not! (Sarcasm)
Thankfully, only 8 people seem to be buying what Eugene's selling.
This supposedly, "Pastor" is disrespectful, he clearly, sounds as if he's stuffing his face while he's talking.
This. I've scrolled a ton of comments to finally find someone else who noticed this awful additional detail ^^' I'm afraid several chickens died a greasy death during this call 8-O
@@toshir0m1 I know children who have better manners then this fool. I mean you won't believe me because of your sin, what the hell is that?
@@rachelberrythegleequeen.3221 Yeah.... and so if your former default reference for bad manners was "children", I think now it's time to upgrade it a bit ;-)
(« Oh, THIS guy at the bar? Yeah, what a shame, he behaved just like a pastor! »)
@@toshir0m1 I'm using that one.
Yes, very disrespectful. He is obviously eating. But then Matt and the others used to do this all the time.
"....but he loves you" -George Carlin.
"Are you prepared to give the reason for the joy that you have found in your heart?"
BAAAHHAHAHAHAA!! Good one.