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  • Talk Heathen 02.39 for September 30, 2018 with Eric Murphy & Matt Dillahunty.
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  • @tedgrant2
    @tedgrant2 Před 3 lety +762

    My dog has never committed murder or hurt anyone.
    When I give him food, he never tries to eat me.
    There is only one possible explanation.
    He secretly believes in Jesus.

    • @brucebaker810
      @brucebaker810 Před 3 lety +33

      @tedgrant2 Hi Ted.
      You're with your dog part of the time. MAYBE we can trust you if you vouch for him.
      But while you're at work, asleep, etc you can't vouch for him.
      You may be just accepting his word for it that, while you're at work, he murdered zero ... people? dogs? what counts as "any _one_ for a dog.
      While you're feeding him, he's got food. He has no need to eat you. A better test would be not feeding him to a week or two.
      But yeah, he prolly secretly believes in doG..

    • @tedgrant2
      @tedgrant2 Před 3 lety +21

      @@brucebaker810
      Chuckle.
      Actually, Bruce, I never leave him.
      He's alus w'me.

    • @brucebaker810
      @brucebaker810 Před 3 lety +32

      @@tedgrant2 So you are _each other's_ alibi? That's, um...convenient.

    • @thegrouchization
      @thegrouchization Před 3 lety +13

      @@brucebaker810 Seems pretty sus, eh?

    • @brucebaker810
      @brucebaker810 Před 3 lety +18

      @@thegrouchization Ted and I joke around. If he and his dog back each other up, I say we look elsewhere.
      But if we don't find any other good leads, we come back. And sweat the dog. We use dog psychology. Like...is he a pointer or retriever? We can work with that.
      The tail's a tell. We play good dog, bad dog. And things of that nature.

  • @songswithcam669
    @songswithcam669 Před 4 lety +884

    “Do you have any sources outside the bible?” “Yes” “What are they?” “Everything is in the bible” oh man that was priceless

    • @psychlos21
      @psychlos21 Před 4 lety +24

      Or he could have consulted his mind/brain which is outside his body.

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 Před 4 lety +8

      +songs with cam:
      We aren't dealing with the top of the line, best of the class type of people here.

    • @Jamie-Russell-CME
      @Jamie-Russell-CME Před 4 lety +4

      Genius
      Bible, look up what bible, biblios means. Oh the irony.
      hint, it means a collection of bookS.
      bibliography....

    • @stupidtreehugger
      @stupidtreehugger Před 4 lety +2

      I thought I had a mind/brain but Matt says thoughts don't exist so I am not thinking these words

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 Před 4 lety +3

      @@stupidtreehugger :
      "I thought I had a mind/brain but Matt says thoughts don't exist so I am not thinking these words"
      ==Thoughts don't exist and yet they exist, if you know what I mean.
      Thoughts aren't made of atoms/molecules. They are represented by atoms/molecules.
      The same goes for Windows XP, other software, ideas, languages, stories. These are non physical things that can be represented with atoms.

  • @Noughtgate
    @Noughtgate Před rokem +232

    John is a rare find, makes a fool of himself like we all do, yet has the heart to admit it once he realizes it rather than doubling down. 👏 Lets fucking go John

    • @0The0Web0
      @0The0Web0 Před rokem +7

      Exactly what I wanted to comment here too 😊

    • @brucetopping248
      @brucetopping248 Před rokem +14

      felt this way, too. I enjoyed this call. Kudos to the caller. and Matt is amazing, even if he comes off as abrasive at times.

    • @SunofYork
      @SunofYork Před rokem

      Did your mother teach you to use obscenities' to express yourself ?

    • @timgil7830
      @timgil7830 Před rokem +9

      Correction. He made no fool of himself. He openly and honestly questioned and listened. John did not make a fool of himself, he proved his intellectual honesty. That's all

    • @Noughtgate
      @Noughtgate Před rokem +1

      @Sun of York No, but I did however learn to use certain obscenities on self-righteous pricks such as yourself when they bring up my mother.

  • @kierananthony25
    @kierananthony25 Před 3 lety +207

    Matt is so mentally strong, that he will even disagree with Eric. He doesn't give two hoots haha.

    • @hawkeye48
      @hawkeye48 Před rokem +8

      You think disagreeing with your partner in a debate is shocking?

    • @kierananthony25
      @kierananthony25 Před rokem +5

      @@hawkeye48 I never said that.

    • @MrMyers758
      @MrMyers758 Před rokem +8

      @@kierananthony25 You are saying he is "so" mentally strong, as though this isn't just a standard expected level of conviction to happen in a debate, where the most intellectually honest you can be is to call out people on your side when there's disagreement? That's the basics of being a debater or politically active.

    • @travis5181
      @travis5181 Před rokem +9

      He's wrong, though. They can do a brain scan and tell what image a person is looking at with surprising fidelity. Doesn't change anything in the debate, and even Matt's allowed to be wrong once in a while.

    • @YourMajesty733
      @YourMajesty733 Před rokem +5

      ​@@travis5181 He's not wrong. What you're seeing in the MRI imaging output is a visual indicator that humans decided to use for practicality. It simply picks up where the electrical signals have high activity. Those synapses are physical, but they are not in itself the thoughts. While it is precise in what it's made to do, and what doctors can derive from the information is accurate, the physical form of the output is purely arbitrary.

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 Před 5 lety +2401

    Is there anything more irritating than someone telling you what you believe?

    • @WolfestoneManor
      @WolfestoneManor Před 5 lety +33

      I agree, nothing irritates me more than when atheists tell me that the only reason I believe is because I'm afraid to die and have some obtuse need for an afterlife. Glad we agree!

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 Před 5 lety +249

      @@WolfestoneManor
      That would irritate me too, if I believed in an undetectable being.

    • @khakiwolf4146
      @khakiwolf4146 Před 5 lety +29

      Someone telling you what you feel.

    • @keithherring7677
      @keithherring7677 Před 5 lety +13

      Yea, God can be annoying when he does that.

    • @Templetonq
      @Templetonq Před 5 lety +34

      No. You're not irritated. You are angry at God and you want to sin. ;)

  • @Ploskkky
    @Ploskkky Před 4 lety +527

    I believe caller John doesn't believe in god, but is suppressing it.
    That nonsense works both ways, caller John.

    • @Templetonq
      @Templetonq Před 4 lety +74

      Deep down he knows that God does not exist. He is just pretending because he is too scared to face facts.

    • @stupidtreehugger
      @stupidtreehugger Před 4 lety +7

      It is weird though. All this interactive complexity and no plexer. Weird

    • @brucebaker810
      @brucebaker810 Před 3 lety +7

      @@stupidtreehugger Reality requires a Realtor.

    • @donaldsmith7824
      @donaldsmith7824 Před 3 lety

      Exactly

    • @nunyabusiness979
      @nunyabusiness979 Před 2 lety +5

      @@brucebaker810 Where does one sign up to be a Reality Realtor?

  • @MrStatix69
    @MrStatix69 Před 3 lety +66

    Matt is taking Eric to task for misinterpretations, ad Homs, not letting the guy talk is the best part of this. Matt is in such a balanced mood

    • @johns1625
      @johns1625 Před 6 měsíci

      Wish he was always like that. Sometimes he can be a way bigger D than he needs to be and it's unhelpful.

  • @RinZ3993
    @RinZ3993 Před 8 měsíci +32

    This caller turned out to be such a nice person in the end. I really like how peaceful and open it became in the end. Hope you hear back from him in the future!

    • @NightfisherCustomTackle
      @NightfisherCustomTackle Před 4 měsíci +3

      Dont believe it. No christian is truly a nice person

    • @RitmosMC
      @RitmosMC Před 4 měsíci

      @NightfisherCustomTackle You’re worse than them… the vast majority of Christians are just mislead. It’s not some horrible fault on their part, just a sad fact about our society. Dehumanizing them solves nothing, and just confirms their stereotypes about us.

    • @nosuchperson284
      @nosuchperson284 Před 4 měsíci

      John was an honest broker. He truly was open minded and willing to concede he might not have been right about things.He didn't just furiously backpedal and make excuses to show he couldn't be wrong. I wonder now, a few years later, after agreeing there were two or three important things he hadn't considered if he ultimately.has changed his mind on the existence of a god and that the Bible is not a good reference for truth?
      Ultimately this was a pleasant conversation to listen to.

  • @derwolf9670
    @derwolf9670 Před 5 lety +745

    "You really believe in God and suppress it"
    Most ignorant and arrogant statement a theist can make

    • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
      @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Před 5 lety +80

      Oliver Dahl The perfect comeback is, “Well, you don’t believe in god, you’re really an atheist & you’re suppressing it.

    • @lucifers.morningstar3805
      @lucifers.morningstar3805 Před 4 lety +7

      @@CJ-ov1pl I'm not he is in the MCU, and he is also on because science.

    • @patbyron2255
      @patbyron2255 Před 4 lety

      has merit though . judge

    • @SolutionsNotPrayers
      @SolutionsNotPrayers Před 4 lety +7

      I like to say to them,
      "In Jesus name, die a horrible painful death, Amen."

    • @plowenson
      @plowenson Před 4 lety +35

      The caller loves Satan, he just doesn't know it yet 😂😂

  • @andrewdavis9096
    @andrewdavis9096 Před 4 lety +695

    "I'm an open minded guy, and a born again Christian." Wow, if that isn't a car crash.

    • @Longtack55
      @Longtack55 Před 4 lety +16

      Before he was a Christian and before his brains fell out?

    • @zemorph42
      @zemorph42 Před 4 lety +21

      Can confirm; born-again in 1990s, crashed multiple times starting in 1999,when I realized that the Bible is not God's inerrant Word, and again in 2013 when I realized that my best evidence for God was nothing more than a vivid daydream, or a hallucination, at most, and immediately and permanently lost faith.

    • @elizabethvandiver7863
      @elizabethvandiver7863 Před 4 lety +1

      Well I will say this most born again Christians are conservative but if he is liberal and acceptong of GLBTs and goes toa church whom has Hays and Lesbians in leadership and marries Gays and lesbians he could be telling the truth,they do not believe in hell therefore do not condem others to hell which is much better then the conservative but if he is trying to save people here hes probably conservative

    • @elizabethvandiver7863
      @elizabethvandiver7863 Před 4 lety

      Oh he was the one talking to the guys them yea hes a conservative for sure

    • @andreahughes5042
      @andreahughes5042 Před 4 lety +7

      @@elizabethvandiver7863 Please, at least end your sentences with a period. It is easier to get your point across and Noone has to guess where the sentence ends.

  • @jonathanfox1
    @jonathanfox1 Před 4 lety +41

    I love the way Eric shifts the microphone as a defense mechanism against Matt shutting him down!

    • @NovelMeetsEvilPodcast
      @NovelMeetsEvilPodcast Před rokem +10

      Yeah, Eric’s style is strong on its own but doesn’t work well with Matt there to call him on not picking up the subtleties

    • @ROOKTABULA
      @ROOKTABULA Před měsícem +1

      That guy is the WORST side kick I've ever seen with Matt.
      He's more a reactionary that a engaged debater.
      His ego was apparent from the first 60 seconds

  • @AstrophelTDeath
    @AstrophelTDeath Před 3 lety +29

    I feel like the two host have animosity towards each other.

    • @All_seeing_ai_33
      @All_seeing_ai_33 Před 3 lety +18

      Yeah at the start of the show there is one part you can really see it when that clown eric looks over at Matt with a smirk on his face after saying " this is talk heathen and you will talk to the both of us" Here it is 0:43 watch the look after he is done talking and looks over at Matt,
      Matt is so many levels higher than eric at debating and knowledge there is no comparison.
      Eric is very childish for a man his age.

    • @unikat6838
      @unikat6838 Před 3 lety +7

      Eric is far more passive aggresive, plus it was a bit of a joke that when matt is on the others can't talk as much since he gets very angry when someone tries to "trap" him with a world play or the "i know what you think", it was a jab at this. And yeah matt has waaaay more experience so everyone pales in comparison

    • @jackstevenson4679
      @jackstevenson4679 Před 3 lety +1

      Eric can't stand Matt but he kisses the ring so he can keep his show. They all kiss Matt's ass.

  • @elgringo1893
    @elgringo1893 Před 4 lety +737

    Everything in the bible is proven in the bible, it's in the bible and therefore it's in the bible.
    Bible.

    • @metatronblack
      @metatronblack Před 4 lety +50

      But you forgot the bible bible bible😁

    • @gilliancockroft1719
      @gilliancockroft1719 Před 4 lety +25

      Then it must be bible 😂

    • @metatronblack
      @metatronblack Před 4 lety +28

      @@gilliancockroft1719 what are you talking about. The bible is the bible because of the bible bible

    • @ReleaseMyKrakken
      @ReleaseMyKrakken Před 4 lety +21

      Bible bible? Bible bible! Bible. Bible, bible. BIBLE ! BIBLE!!!

    • @JustinKreule
      @JustinKreule Před 4 lety +9

      BIBLE

  • @davidlockett1370
    @davidlockett1370 Před 4 lety +466

    He's a open minded guy - his mind gladly flew out through this opening.

    • @lyndonbauer1703
      @lyndonbauer1703 Před 4 lety +8

      fucking underrated. I did more than breathe heavily through my nose

    • @davidlockett1370
      @davidlockett1370 Před 4 lety +1

      @@verifiedb.o.o.h5660 Beastimii carvor saniflas exocrucifer you ………

    • @ReddFoxx1562
      @ReddFoxx1562 Před 3 lety +5

      comments like this give atheists a bad name. As silly and illogical as the guy truly sounded, he clearly had the mind open enough to at least be able to concede that he had genuine interest in looking more into these types of things on an untheological level. So shame on you fuckers

    • @gloriannepapolis6525
      @gloriannepapolis6525 Před 3 lety +4

      As richard dawkins would say:"it is ok to have an open mind but not to the point where your brain falls out"

    • @ReddFoxx1562
      @ReddFoxx1562 Před 3 lety

      @@gloriannepapolis6525 That's not what was demonstrated here.

  • @hughfranklin4002
    @hughfranklin4002 Před 3 lety +6

    Eric doesn't like playing second fiddle to Matt.

  • @jtstar10
    @jtstar10 Před 3 lety +28

    I bet Eric secretly despise Matt for correcting him numerous times in this episode….just sayin’!!

    • @greeneyedlady5580
      @greeneyedlady5580 Před 9 měsíci +15

      They absolutely didn't make a good team.

    • @Thedrunkape96
      @Thedrunkape96 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I'm an atheist, and I'm afraid to talk to Matt. He's like the final boss.

  • @nextaros
    @nextaros Před 4 lety +245

    "look at the trees."
    "oh shit, i'm a christian now." XD

    • @theSEGAtwistisover9k
      @theSEGAtwistisover9k Před 4 lety +11

      Hey that's just like that time I held some one's hand and got pregnant.

    • @ajaxlewis7664
      @ajaxlewis7664 Před 4 lety +8

      @@theSEGAtwistisover9k I held hands with a boy... am I pregnant or is he?? 😟

    • @anikmonette2140
      @anikmonette2140 Před 4 lety +12

      I wonder what blind people think about the beauty of the world around them...

    • @theSEGAtwistisover9k
      @theSEGAtwistisover9k Před 4 lety +2

      @@ajaxlewis7664 it's kind of a Russian roulette unless one of you were wearing Band-Aids of course, then you're safe.

    • @antman2443
      @antman2443 Před 4 lety +7

      Funny, I looked at the trees and am now a Muslim :\ weird how we came to two different religions

  • @FourDeuce01
    @FourDeuce01 Před 4 lety +281

    John sounds like a preacher. He's used to talking AT people.

    • @souplife1
      @souplife1 Před 4 lety +32

      I hate how he just agrees with everything Matt says and then contradicts himself. Hes such a patronizing prick

    • @VolvoMetal
      @VolvoMetal Před 4 lety +6

      @David Jameson Seems to me Matt does listen, he just cuts them off to explain why their "new ideas" are bullshit.

    • @Chance57
      @Chance57 Před 4 lety +2

      I don't know about you guys but I like John. I've talked with hundreds and he didn't seemed like he was talking AT them nearly as much as some of the others. He has genuine moments where he pauses and reflects and he concedes points. if I see this talk is anything, I see this as proof that the epistemological approach is infinitely better than argumentative/debate style. Had John spoken with a pro like Magnabosco, very well may have been non believer by the time it was done

    • @tyr7876
      @tyr7876 Před 3 lety +2

      He actually studied to be a preacher so that makes sense.

  • @Trapper4265
    @Trapper4265 Před 11 měsíci +10

    I remember well when I was a Southern Baptist Missionary. I was just as arrogant, self-righteous, and judgemental about my beliefs, and no one could convince me otherwise. Now, looking back, I am ashamed of myself because I treated those I loved who were non- believers like second class humans, and now they are gone, and I can't apologize.

    • @less2worryabout
      @less2worryabout Před 9 měsíci +3

      Here is someone wishing you well. Kno need in harping on things you cannot change. you can only be more honest with yourself and those around you now. Be proud and unashamed.

    • @Uretard2121
      @Uretard2121 Před 6 měsíci

      Did they kill themselves. I know I try I did when my dad sister try put that shit in his brain trying to ruin my life and divorce my mom

  • @Spasaymoostard
    @Spasaymoostard Před 7 měsíci +15

    Caller was one of the best I’ve heard in terms of answering questions and cogent responses. They weren’t good or accurate responses, but at least were consistent with the questions

  • @misterid1075
    @misterid1075 Před 5 lety +477

    Professor Trelawny predicted that a boy would be born to challenge the Dark Lord. That came true later on. That means Hogwarts really exists.

    • @Raz.C
      @Raz.C Před 5 lety +28

      Dude, I've SEEN Hogwarts. I can show Hogwarts to other people. That alone makes it eminently more believable than any gods any of those theists want to pretend are real.
      But seriously, your comparison of the Potter-verse is more apt than you might think; Theism is all about pretending. Just like believing the Potter-verse to be real involves a lot of pretending. In both cases, people are unsatisfied with the objective reality that confronts them and have decided to pretend that their prefered mythology is also real.

    • @ziemayet
      @ziemayet Před 5 lety +24

      Heretic ! The dark Lord was palpatine and the boy was luke. Obviously tatooine exists.

    • @aussieatheist960
      @aussieatheist960 Před 5 lety +8

      I've been to platform 9 1/2 BUT being a mere Muggle I haven't had the opportunity to see Hogwarts :(

    • @RasMatHam02
      @RasMatHam02 Před 5 lety +8

      @@aussieatheist960 I think you might have meant Platform 9 3/4

    • @aussieatheist960
      @aussieatheist960 Před 5 lety +21

      @@RasMatHam02 Sh!t no wonder I couldn't get there I was ru nning into the wrong part of the wall!

  • @shmick6079
    @shmick6079 Před 5 lety +371

    Matt is on Eric’s show.
    Matt is displaying significant patience here.

    • @imbwildrd3693
      @imbwildrd3693 Před 5 lety +24

      Is it really Eric's show? or is it a show that the ACA sponsors and Eric is just a hired host? curious...

    • @shmick6079
      @shmick6079 Před 5 lety +8

      IMBwildrd I honestly have no idea, but he’s the host.

    • @davidhatcher7016
      @davidhatcher7016 Před 5 lety +2

      Shmick !
      yup!

    • @Chillton
      @Chillton Před 5 lety +4

      Id say the patience ha shifted from Eric to Matt in this one

    • @coudgeb
      @coudgeb Před 5 lety +45

      @schmick! I agree with you. I love Matt and agree with alot of his concepts. But I feel he is uncuth at times. In my eyes he was disrespectful to Eric. And it's hard for me to watch Matt at times bc of the way he comes across. I'm not a sensitve person especially in logical arguments and debates. If he can show patience and respect for others in an array of public forum's then why the lack of restraint here and Axp. And I'm not referring to the ramblers and ppl that should be interrupted for a number of valid reasons.

  • @nunyabusiness979
    @nunyabusiness979 Před 3 lety +29

    One of the best things I heard...
    "Why is the serpent punished to crawl upon its belly when that's exactly what serpents do?"

    • @Krikenemp18
      @Krikenemp18 Před rokem +5

      I'd like to know how they think serpents moved around before they were cursed. Did they bounce on their tails like a spring?

    • @mgerard365
      @mgerard365 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@Krikenemp18I heard a Christian minister once say that before the “Fall” serpents had legs, and then after the temptation of Eve and Adam, that’s when God cursed the serpent to crawl on its belly. It was one of those okie dokie, I’m out of here, moments for me.

    • @user-wy9nx5ou6w
      @user-wy9nx5ou6w Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@mgerard365
      Ironically the minister actually spoke some truth…
      Historically snakes did have legs and to this day some snakes still show signs of short back legs.
      In no way does this support the idea of a ‘fall’.

  • @mochatech121
    @mochatech121 Před 3 lety +16

    LOL! Matt is walking all over Eric and Eric is getting very pissed off.

    • @pavld335
      @pavld335 Před 3 lety +3

      It was pissing me off too. I don't like seeing people being treated like that.

    • @jackstevenson4679
      @jackstevenson4679 Před 3 lety +2

      What is he going to do? Nothing. Matt is the star and he runs the show. Everytime he is a co host on another person show he walks all over them. When he enters the show he is the focus of attention. Eric is so pissed the whole time and keeps making snide remarks.

    • @pavld335
      @pavld335 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jackstevenson4679 It's Eric's show.

    • @jackstevenson4679
      @jackstevenson4679 Před 3 lety +1

      @@pavld335 ok I stated that in my comment. Read it again. I know who's show it is.

    • @jackstevenson4679
      @jackstevenson4679 Před 3 lety +2

      @@pavld335 "Everytime he(referring to Matt) is a co host on another person's show he takes it over." Point being when Matt goes on another hosts show he always makes it his show. Does he not do this? I think he obviously does and there is plenty of evidence to support my claim.

  • @dronexfun8469
    @dronexfun8469 Před 4 lety +125

    "I don't want to believe, I want to know". -- Some dude called Carl Sagan

    • @magaisdead7939
      @magaisdead7939 Před 3 lety +2

      Never heard of him. 😆

    • @lulolie
      @lulolie Před 3 lety +1

      I only heard his name in a staged rap battle between Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking

    • @pidayrocks2235
      @pidayrocks2235 Před 2 lety +1

      I think that was a statement made by someone else on Carl’s behalf, after his death, as a description of his mindset. Either way, it’s a really bad quote because it paints this picture (whether intended or not) that belief in the absence of certainty is bad... which it isn’t. I recognize that knowledge doesn’t actually require absolute certainty, but considering that knowledge is a subset of belief, pitting them against each other gives that impression (that beliefs can only be the result of faith... which isn’t accurate). My interpretation here might be overly philosophical and pedantic, but the impression given I think can be a universal harm to those that take this quote at face value. Point being: make sure your beliefs are supported by sufficient evidence and all is good.

    • @Sharon-fw9qw
      @Sharon-fw9qw Před 8 měsíci

      He was the Man.

  • @thickerconstrictor9037
    @thickerconstrictor9037 Před 4 lety +161

    Every time I think "maybe I could debate" and then I listen to Matt, I just sit down and lay my head on the table. Matt is so good at what he does. And having the amount of knowledge that he has on the Bible, is a huge huge help.

    • @joecoolioness6399
      @joecoolioness6399 Před 4 lety +10

      I have to agree completely. He articulates what I have felt for many, many years.

    • @jerryp6001
      @jerryp6001 Před 3 lety +20

      The issue is the aggressiveness and dickishness 90% of the time(?)
      Sometimes its warranted. Other times, his fuse is WAY too short.
      He doesnt apportion his annoyance appropriately. He indiscriminately jumps too it.
      He wasnt always like that.
      Earlier shows...he would do it when warranted.
      Now he treats way too many that way, regardless of it being warranted or not.
      He does it...doesnt really care that he does it. Hes aware and does it.
      If someone on the other side did what he does, that consistently, I'd have issues with it. Matt doesn't get a pass bc I like him...agree with him...and like when he does that in the appropriate situation.
      I do my best to not be hypocritical

    • @thickerconstrictor9037
      @thickerconstrictor9037 Před 2 lety +3

      @@jerryp6001 personally I like when he does it. Now I don't do it myself. Every once in a while I get frustrated but 99 out of 100 times if insults are thrown in a conversation about God with me, it's at me not from me. But I don't really have much of a problem with him doing it most of the time I find it entertaining as hell

    • @Void-Realm
      @Void-Realm Před rokem +1

      @@jerryp6001 it seems like a lot of people do it within The Atheist Experience, so many callers point it out too as well as talking over people. It comes off so rude and I think it pushes theists (and atheists) further away and hinders progress. I get that callers can't talk for too long and the hosts have been having these discussions for some time but there's a much more polite way to go about things. I wonder if they'd have more viewers if they were a bit nicer.

    • @Void-Realm
      @Void-Realm Před rokem +1

      @@thickerconstrictor9037 I imagine you don't do it yourself for a reason though. That's likely the same reason most of us don't. Most people don't like being spoken to like Matt does. I think it puts callers off. It's like in my other comment on here I've seen so many people bring up the way they are spoken to. Some of them even bring it up at the beginning of calls that there's often rudeness/talking over each other.

  • @AshleyWilsonAU
    @AshleyWilsonAU Před 3 lety +10

    Eric needed to just keep quiet during this... Too eager to say "aha! Gotcha!" without listening to what the caller was actually trying to say.

    • @All_seeing_ai_33
      @All_seeing_ai_33 Před 3 lety

      Eric is a clown! Matt is many levels above him at debating and bible knowledge.

  • @thevaughnshow
    @thevaughnshow Před 3 lety +3

    Another great example of a theist caller, who’s unaware of Matt’s Christian education, getting schooled by Matt about the Bible. Also, if more callers were just willing to listen and honestly answer a few questions like the hosts of the show, a better conversation would always take place.

  • @megamus3
    @megamus3 Před 4 lety +170

    I really hate the way the superstitious demean the word "scholar", religion poisons everything.

    • @WCM1945
      @WCM1945 Před 4 lety +18

      Religious zealots fear _intelligence_ more than any other characteristic in their opponents.

    • @thefirm4606
      @thefirm4606 Před 4 lety +5

      Bill Martin intelligence will make you walk away from most religions! Can you blame them for being scared of it? Peace!

    • @kingjuggalo4335
      @kingjuggalo4335 Před 4 lety +1

      Like Richard Dawkins said we I am from a scholar is someone who has read more than one book lmfao

    • @arieschic8315
      @arieschic8315 Před 4 lety +1

      @@thefirm4606 huh? Why should anybody be scared of intelligence? I do blame them for their stupidity. They need to walk away from all these fairy tales, with them believing in that and lacking intelligence is why we're getting further behind into the dark ages no thanks to these so called christians. They're scared of science and thinking it's witchcraft.

    • @a.brekkan4965
      @a.brekkan4965 Před 3 lety

      "All men are created equal" is a metaphysical and speculative claim.

  • @nailahbell8067
    @nailahbell8067 Před 5 lety +432

    I personally prefer Matt’s style to Eric’s. Not sure that they’re compatible side by side, but it’s still fun to watch.

    • @JohnLeePettimoreIII
      @JohnLeePettimoreIII Před 5 lety +35

      Matt is certainly more conversationally aggressive. It's simply his personality. Eric, on the other hand, isn't quite so. Frankly, i think they (just as other pairings would) form a nice Yin-Yang thing. 😃
      (EDIT: Getting further into the video, I can see better the point you were making about Eric jumping the proverbial gun. Let's just chalk it up to his enthusiasm, shall we?)

    • @johndoe-gt4rx
      @johndoe-gt4rx Před 5 lety +84

      @@JohnLeePettimoreIII I completely disagree. Eric is even more aggressive than matt but doesn't have the tact or wit that matt does. Eric is constantly condescending even to his cohost sometimes and a large part of the time is just pretending to be full of confidence and gusto. His personality is the definition of false bravado.

    • @nailahbell8067
      @nailahbell8067 Před 5 lety +34

      I kind of feel like in this clip, their interaction was bordering right along a very thin line of being entertaining versus being uncomfortable. Just seemed to be tipping to uncomfortable more than usual in this one

    • @yomeroyomero
      @yomeroyomero Před 5 lety +32

      the difference is one is a world class mind, the other is a smart guy. Matt is able to see way further than the other guy, that why he is always correcting him . . .

    • @smartbart80
      @smartbart80 Před 5 lety +3

      100% agree

  • @BrianFromMaine
    @BrianFromMaine Před 3 lety +4

    This is a great segment of the show. I fully enjoyed the conversation.

  • @Not_An_EV
    @Not_An_EV Před rokem +9

    I love the bit where he agrees with Matt that thoughts aren't real then when he realises that he now agrees with the "enemy" he tries to change his argument 😂

  • @funnymyth1827
    @funnymyth1827 Před 4 lety +58

    Thanks to Matt for keeping this argument in line with what the caller was actually presenting.

    • @jackwhite8238
      @jackwhite8238 Před 16 dny

      Yeah the dude with the glasses in an insecure prick

  • @WCM1945
    @WCM1945 Před 4 lety +90

    The definition of contradiction: A "born-again Christian" with an open mind.

    • @seand.g423
      @seand.g423 Před 4 lety

      Nah, fam,
      1. Born-Again Wasteland Cultist with an open mind
      2. Wasteland Cult able to distinguish between "cultural Acceptance" and "mass conversion".

    • @blackice9088
      @blackice9088 Před 4 lety +5

      He's so open-minded that his brain fell out.

    • @kevinsuarez8667
      @kevinsuarez8667 Před 4 lety

      Awoman to that!

    • @jtg1972
      @jtg1972 Před 4 lety +2

      That's a double contradiction!🤦‍♂️🤣

    • @EGOS42
      @EGOS42 Před 9 měsíci

      If accurate won't be born-again Christian long.

  • @hypnotoad28
    @hypnotoad28 Před 4 lety +7

    I had a conversation with a guy who always answered my questions with "let me ask you something". He was allegedly a science teacher, and constantly told me that he is "the teacher" and I am "the student". This conversation reminds me a lot of that guy, same accent and everything.

  • @2ezee2011
    @2ezee2011 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I gotta hand it to you guys. Way more patience with these callers than I EVER could have.

  • @adamgodfrey6591
    @adamgodfrey6591 Před 4 lety +279

    Matt telling the other dude to let the caller finish is a delicious irony

    • @illuminocalypse5210
      @illuminocalypse5210 Před 4 lety +67

      RIGHT??? Thank you! I'm glad someone else here acknowledges that Matt can sometimes be.... "pushy", shall we say - other times he's just plain rude to some of his callers, even when they hadn't done anything to deserve being talked to like that... he goes too far too quickly with that attitude of his sometimes, for sure.
      In fact, I kept getting the sense that Eric was trying to sort of reel Matt in somewhat when he started moving in that direction toward John. And I'm glad he did - John seems like such a likable and friendly sort of dude, and clearly came in with good intentions of just have a good conversation - I think Matt going off on him the way he sometimes does would've been counterproductive and would've just damaged the goodwill and rapport they'd built with him throughout the call.

    • @MaMastoast
      @MaMastoast Před 4 lety +41

      @@illuminocalypse5210 Yea matt is certainly very direct.. And sometimes very rude. Usually it's when people are starting to talk on a basis that isn't true, which he knows from experience won't lead anywhere so he's always quick to jump in and stop people before things get out of hand... He could certainly do it in a more respectful way however... One thing is being dismissive towards the callers, but I don't think undermining the host of the show(Eric) is a good look.

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca Před 4 lety +30

      @@MaMastoast he's not just rude, he sometimes jumps on to defend with teeth and nail some shoddy detail just because the caller pisses him off

    • @urquanseven2332
      @urquanseven2332 Před 3 lety +34

      @@MaMastoast Yeah I definitely noticed that too. I'm not sure why Matt kept contradicting Eric. Matt contradicted Eric on insulting the author's of the bible as goat herders, which I'm pretty sure Matt has done before too, and even said worse. He's called the writers of the bible, raping and pillaging jews (which they were). But why was he so intent on contradicting him and emasculating him? Is he that much of a control/power freak or was there some underlying tension between them due to something that happened off the air?

    • @gokblok
      @gokblok Před 3 lety +8

      Bro Eric's a fucking asshole

  • @wickedchef
    @wickedchef Před 4 lety +41

    John believes in Santa, he's just suppressed it.

    • @luv2fly745
      @luv2fly745 Před 3 lety +4

      At least Santa is based on a verifiably real person.

  • @KenH-pm2lh
    @KenH-pm2lh Před 4 lety +18

    Me: “How do we know the Bible is God’s word?”
    Person: starts quoting bible versus

    • @a.brekkan4965
      @a.brekkan4965 Před 3 lety

      How do we know that "All men are created equal"?

    • @j.dragon651
      @j.dragon651 Před 3 lety

      @@a.brekkan4965 all men are created equal, then they are born and that changes.

    • @a.brekkan4965
      @a.brekkan4965 Před 3 lety

      @@j.dragon651 That would be the creationist position!

    • @denverarnold6210
      @denverarnold6210 Před 2 lety

      @@j.dragon651 anyone with any birth defects may like to have a word with you, assuming they can.

    • @j.dragon651
      @j.dragon651 Před 2 lety

      @@denverarnold6210 and I can explain to them why.

  • @alexplourde-aubin5645
    @alexplourde-aubin5645 Před 4 lety +6

    I just became a fan. I love this Channel already. Keep up the good work.

  • @jakesoriedem4747
    @jakesoriedem4747 Před 5 lety +467

    Theist suppress that they are atheist😇

    • @HEARTS-OF-SPACE
      @HEARTS-OF-SPACE Před 5 lety +34

      Far more likely.

    • @LucianCorrvinus
      @LucianCorrvinus Před 5 lety +7

      Sorry, not an Athiest (neo-Pagan), wait that makes me a Thiest, oh don't matter, I just don't believe in Christians version of "God"

    • @HEARTS-OF-SPACE
      @HEARTS-OF-SPACE Před 5 lety +28

      @@LucianCorrvinus All of it is bullshit.

    • @jakesoriedem4747
      @jakesoriedem4747 Před 5 lety +29

      There is no evidence of a god. Reality is far more satisfying than fantasies from the Bible.

    • @dfadden62
      @dfadden62 Před 5 lety +24

      Jake Soriedem actually this would explain why they constantly need to “recharge” their faith/brainwashing.

  • @alasdairwhyte6616
    @alasdairwhyte6616 Před 4 lety +39

    "I've done a lot of bad things in my life' explains why he needs to believe, he wants the get out of hell card

    • @vashnanerada8757
      @vashnanerada8757 Před 4 lety +6

      He needs to do what most decent people do when they mess up.. Or sin.. Make amends for it. I had to do it. An rightly so. Leaving it to a god is dishonest an lazy an a cop out

    • @thefirm4606
      @thefirm4606 Před 4 lety

      VASHTA NERADA true! Leaving religion meant the only person I had to answer to was myself, here and now! Not say sorry and leave it to eternal damnation, skipping along oblivious. I am a far more moral person than I have ever been
      Peace

    • @vashnanerada8757
      @vashnanerada8757 Před 4 lety

      @@thefirm4606 namaste.... I agree
      Be hillarius if when we die we find out everyone moves on to something, and noGod worship necessary. There is 2 answer
      We die. An that it.
      Or
      We move on to something else our energy transforms.
      NO one really knows.
      I don't belive in any monotheistic faith these dead desert religions encode us with the idea that individualism is more imported than service to our environment things that indifatactly relate us to the earth I suppose the ultimate truth is oneness that our life's are a temporary illusion we occupie our flesh body's wich are transient what important is things we share love freanship unity an togetherness as long as we have a cultural narratives that echew these ideas an suppress these ideas in favour of negative human traits GREED and LUST SELFISHNESS WE WILL LIVE IN OPPOSITION TO ONE AND OTHER AND BE EXPLOTED BY CORPORATIONS THAT PREY APON THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF HUMANITY.... I THINK OUR REALITY IS MADE UP OF OUR
      INTENTION AND ATTENTION.
      Sorry I went on a bit of a rant then.

    • @gerardt3284
      @gerardt3284 Před 4 lety +3

      Or he's been trained to constantly think that he's a piece of shit sinner

    • @pointbreak8646
      @pointbreak8646 Před rokem

      One deserves an eternity in hell purely because they didn't believe in jesus on the weakest of evidence, it's ridiculous, what a concept if that's the right word. It's horrible as well. It just reeks of some man made nonsense . I've met 3 Christians in 25 years. It really is for the deluded. If one's been indoctrinated, raised into a religious family then fair enough however to 'find jesus' later in life... A mid life crisis I guess. It must be an emotional thing with them. This bronze aged bullshit really has to fade out. Wake up people! I'm yet to hear a case where one's life hasn't drastically improved when they have lost their faith.

  • @savagesalvage9449
    @savagesalvage9449 Před 3 lety +33

    I never knew I needed to hear well articulated athiests take apart theist arguments.

    • @Gerryjournal
      @Gerryjournal Před 7 měsíci

      It's pretty much a walk in the park when the theist says "I don't know nuthin".

  • @joshuakohlmann9731
    @joshuakohlmann9731 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Finally a caller with integrity. He listened politely and was willing to see the flaws in his own reasoning and reconsider his position. A thoughtful, thorough and very enjoyable discussion.

  • @robertallan6373
    @robertallan6373 Před 5 lety +163

    The caller is projecting his own insecurity, he cannot imagine himself not believing in a god, and therefore he cannot imagine others not believing also.

    • @DL-rl9bd
      @DL-rl9bd Před 5 lety +15

      Robert allan I think that is a primary issue with theists. And, actually, because it shatters their worldview, they are the ones suppressing their beliefs.

    • @zenon3021
      @zenon3021 Před 5 lety +12

      the caller is attributing Morality to his god - a common Christian apologetic talking point: "you can't be moral without god." Frank Turek and Jordan Peterson promote this crap. Ironically, the Old Testament god is hella immoral, and the New Testament is immoral too with the Christian concept of Hell and Jesus telling slaves to "obey your masters"

    • @robertallan6373
      @robertallan6373 Před 5 lety

      This is true, and that is what keeps religion alive.

    • @r.scottmacleod4564
      @r.scottmacleod4564 Před 5 lety

      The fact he even made this call to this show indicates he might stumble on to the truth along the way....just like all atheists have reached the truth along the way...all atheists are born into a family that have a religious belief but somewhere along the way they determine there is no presentable evidence to support it as being true....people don't give up on religion....people discover it is NOT true....words written in a book by others are merely words written in a book by others.

    • @cwolf208
      @cwolf208 Před 5 lety

      @@DL-rl9bd Let's not do that. These people honestly hold these beliefs. They have a ton of cognitive dissonance, but they are not lying. Don't be like the caller and assert things you cannot demonstrate.

  • @tillyrivers6054
    @tillyrivers6054 Před 4 lety +285

    The longer the call goes, you can hear his voice getting shaky. Hes recognizing that his reasoning is flawed and is struggling to make his beliefs fit with reality.

    • @Stasiaflonase
      @Stasiaflonase Před 4 lety +25

      Tilly Rivers which is good. Education never ends.

    • @anrose8335
      @anrose8335 Před 4 lety +10

      @Ronove sadly probably even stronger now that he was "tested."

    • @DENIEL381
      @DENIEL381 Před 4 lety +3

      just another fruit cake end of story.

    • @jamesogletree4001
      @jamesogletree4001 Před 4 lety +1

      That or he gets adrenaline when arguing.

    • @CondemnedGuy
      @CondemnedGuy Před 3 lety +6

      That's also why he keeps changing his "arguments" / narratives, and why each one is worse than the earlier.
      He literally went for "look at the trees" at one point.

  • @nicolasnombre2660
    @nicolasnombre2660 Před 10 měsíci +1

    loved this, prob one of my favourite calls

  • @MrMZaccone
    @MrMZaccone Před 3 lety +18

    Eric, like most, should just stuff a sock in his mouth when he's on the same show as Matt. It's like watching Franklin trying to help Tesla with electricity ... "No, Ben. I don't think we really need a fucking kite at this point, I kinda got that part figured out." SHIT!

  • @Darkey320
    @Darkey320 Před 5 lety +116

    Lol Eric got so salty when the first caller wanted to ask Matt a question 😂😂

    • @-kiexes-8706
      @-kiexes-8706 Před 4 lety +16

      Eric and Matt both can get pretty aggressive, and I think they kinda need a more passive person to kinda even it out a bit.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 Před 4 lety +3

      @Prophet Everyone is on a high horse when dealing with an idiot . You must come across a lot of people on high horses !

    • @cathrinegustavsson9775
      @cathrinegustavsson9775 Před 4 lety +17

      Erik is most likely suffering from an inferiority complex🤣🤣🤣🤣 he always talks about it's his show and I don't think he likes Matt coming in taking over 😂😂😂😂
      You can tell when he gets bothered he's always snug in his glasses up and touching his hair !!
      Poor little Erik!!!!!!

    • @honorquest
      @honorquest Před 4 lety +2

      Not quite, when caller didn't hear Matt's request , it was Eric that slowed caller down and told him Matt has a question.

    • @honorquest
      @honorquest Před 4 lety

      @@spocksvulcanbrain I agree, but it seems Eric has been reading criticisms, because the collab in a video they released last week is so on point.

  • @akinshola1974
    @akinshola1974 Před 4 lety +31

    Matt at his best ,when he is explaining and patient

  • @CarissaNomadic
    @CarissaNomadic Před 3 lety

    That ended so nice! That was a really great way that both of you ended this call!

  • @jameswest4819
    @jameswest4819 Před 4 lety +12

    I had a friend, years ago, that used to say, "If you believe it, it's true...to you." The trouble is, If you believe something is true because of physical proof, then it is tangible. If you believe something because you want it to be true, then that is wishful-thinking and that is faith.

  • @markrude9489
    @markrude9489 Před 5 lety +14

    The most important thing this guys said:
    "I never thought about these things."

    • @joecoolioness6399
      @joecoolioness6399 Před 4 lety +4

      This is why this show exists. If all you know is what is in your own bubble, you might never think to ask questions.

  • @mr.e5595
    @mr.e5595 Před 4 lety +34

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Eric rubbed them the wrong way. Something about him irritates me.

    • @richiejohnson
      @richiejohnson Před 4 lety +5

      He is young. All young people are irritating.

    • @lenmurray6481
      @lenmurray6481 Před 4 lety

      Mr. E I’d never watch the show if he were the host.

    • @anrose8335
      @anrose8335 Před 4 lety +6

      Eric is an okay guy. I love him and I love Matt too. I could listen to them and Tracie for hours. They have taught me a lot in my old age. If it wasn't for them, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Robert Wright, and Julia Sweeney, among others, I would not have advanced this far from fundamentalist Christianity to atheism as I did. :))

    • @rachelnuku3170
      @rachelnuku3170 Před 4 lety

      @@anrose8335 lets not forget ayan hirsi ali,sam harris and stephen fry.Hitch is the boss,all the others are his disciples

    • @ThepPixel
      @ThepPixel Před 3 lety +1

      Hes just a smart ass a lot of the time and treats the callers as if they are idiots when in reality they have just been led astray.

  • @ScienceManiacCZ
    @ScienceManiacCZ Před 7 měsíci +3

    I've just recently, maybe in the last 2 months or so found out about Matt while stumbling through CZcams and really like his content. This one in particular made me hopeful that his questions and lines of logic get through to more people than we know! I hope he did call back with a lil diff view on life!

  • @jeffreiling5348
    @jeffreiling5348 Před 3 lety

    Finally someone who seemed to have his eyes opened a bit by the end of the call. Bravo!

  • @jarrod752
    @jarrod752 Před 5 lety +205

    You believe in fairies. You just _suppress it._ See, I can do it too!

    • @captainchaos3053
      @captainchaos3053 Před 5 lety +7

      Jarrod how did you know? I love faeries !

    • @jarrod752
      @jarrod752 Před 5 lety +2

      Exactly! How do I know?

    • @captainchaos3053
      @captainchaos3053 Před 5 lety

      Jarrod Because we all do!

    • @jarrod752
      @jarrod752 Před 5 lety +5

      Of course... I was just suppressing it!

    • @TheOaf2782
      @TheOaf2782 Před 5 lety +4

      I don't think you are supposed to call them that anymore.

  • @johnnymcgonigle6530
    @johnnymcgonigle6530 Před 5 lety +79

    The Bible says..., The Bible shows..., The Bible was... He's stuck right there and can't move forward. That's his only answer to everything.

    • @SolutionsNotPrayers
      @SolutionsNotPrayers Před 5 lety +11

      I found this at the end of a Bible, I wonder if they all have it?
      "This story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this Bible are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred."

    • @mischarowe
      @mischarowe Před 4 lety +3

      @@SolutionsNotPrayers Well that solves the 2000 year old problem. Should've put the disclaimer at the beginning.

    • @rockysandman5489
      @rockysandman5489 Před 4 lety

      @@SolutionsNotPrayers Do you remember what version of the Bible it was in?

    • @SolutionsNotPrayers
      @SolutionsNotPrayers Před 4 lety

      @@rockysandman5489
      Any Bible I come across receives the Stamp of that message and if god doesn't like it, I will wage war with him in the here and now or in his heaven. God does my bidding.

    • @rockysandman5489
      @rockysandman5489 Před 4 lety +1

      @@SolutionsNotPrayers Ooooh-hoo-hoo. So this god is your bitch?

  • @FalseDogss
    @FalseDogss Před 7 měsíci +3

    I love listening to Matt. He's very well spoken, and I'm learning a lot.

    • @user-vx9jy7jl2l
      @user-vx9jy7jl2l Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Iwantpoptarts96420after talking to morons for years on end, you’d probably be more aggressive too.

  • @marcuszarate1513
    @marcuszarate1513 Před 4 lety +7

    Hilarious how Eric hates when Matt shuts him up, gets ignored but it hurts him more when Matt explains to Eric that THAT wasn't what John was trying to saying. Lol Lollipops!!! Haha

  • @1991stratplus
    @1991stratplus Před 5 lety +220

    i want pizza therefore god

    • @assmatronix
      @assmatronix Před 5 lety +9

      I'm in Naples right now, I'm in Mekka. L'antica Pizzeria da Michele in Naples is my church.

    • @TheOaf2782
      @TheOaf2782 Před 5 lety +13

      The human body being a product of evolution and not a single creator I can believe. But pizza was clearly intelligently designed. Therefore God exists

    • @gowdsake7103
      @gowdsake7103 Před 5 lety +12

      Pizza was invented by the devil to tempt away from the path of gawd

    • @TheOaf2782
      @TheOaf2782 Před 5 lety +10

      So God doesn't like pizaa, booze, premarital sex or the gays? Party's in heaven must suck.

    • @cjermevpg6372
      @cjermevpg6372 Před 5 lety +11

      Well, yeah. Basically heaven is just everybody telling god how great he is, and how much they love him. It's like having to suck up to the worst boss ever 24/7

  • @NewRedYolk
    @NewRedYolk Před 5 lety +53

    That guy should have called The Atheist Experience when Matt and Tracie were on instead of this... Eric's OK sometimes, but here, he's just in the way.

    • @bobbyboywonder12
      @bobbyboywonder12 Před 4 lety +10

      Eric just tries to get into the conversation because he so badly just wants to be heard....

    • @dennisjordan5917
      @dennisjordan5917 Před 4 lety +8

      He wants to be Matt so bad it’s pathetic. Especially because he can’t walk the line between stern and rude like Matt can. Really wish they would replace him.

    • @bobbyboywonder12
      @bobbyboywonder12 Před 4 lety +6

      Dennis Jordan yea, he’s very annoying to listen to as an atheist. I can only imagine what I would have thought about him when I was a believer.

    • @WyattCayer
      @WyattCayer Před 4 lety +1

      @@dennisjordan5917 We all gotta eat. I thought he was fine, not to say that it isn't somewhat true what you said. They should get cosmicskeptic on this podcast. That would be dope as fuck.

  • @bonnieharris8855
    @bonnieharris8855 Před 3 lety +1

    You guys are so much fun!

  • @ghettofreeze
    @ghettofreeze Před 5 lety +86

    Give the caller some credit. John is a lot more thoughtful than most callers. You don't often hear a caller say "That's a good point." He's taking baby steps out of the darkness in this call.
    As for the Matt and Eric dynamic, who gives a damn?

    • @reverendaero
      @reverendaero Před 4 lety +3

      RAmen

    • @Sanntii7
      @Sanntii7 Před 4 lety +2

      I was surprised to see so much hate for him here. Also I think he didn't deserve how Eric treated him for momments

    • @Ace_T
      @Ace_T Před 4 lety +2

      santiago uccella same, I came down expecting to see more comments saying he’s better than most people on these shows, but I’m guessing people got too hung up on the first point he made

    • @snatchadams69
      @snatchadams69 Před 4 lety

      He seemed like he wasn't truly listening just being condescendingly amiable.

    • @vetobandito2635
      @vetobandito2635 Před 4 lety +1

      no he isn't he sounds like every other self righteous idiot like he has the secret answer and anything you say he knows better

  • @InvectivePleasure
    @InvectivePleasure Před 4 lety +29

    Nothing is gonna piss Matt off more than telling him what he personally believes. I can't wait to see this.

    • @coletrickle1775
      @coletrickle1775 Před 4 lety +2

      Pissed off Matt is my favorite.

    • @joecoolioness6399
      @joecoolioness6399 Před 4 lety +1

      don't tell me what I think or believe, nobody but I knows anything near the truth of either!!

  • @ThePixel1983
    @ThePixel1983 Před 2 lety +2

    This was quite wholesome in the end.

  • @victorybybird6542
    @victorybybird6542 Před 4 lety +4

    The caller is really sweet though, it's nice to see a calm debate. It feels really productive, whether someone is converted or not.

  • @ginajustiniano84
    @ginajustiniano84 Před 5 lety +80

    Question really is why do they need a god to exist to know how to be a decent human being?

    • @thelightrevealstheplace6361
      @thelightrevealstheplace6361 Před 5 lety +2

      GiA JuSt'INa Because of how the Beast System we inhabit socially engineers you to believe that perverse things are normal. This is Satan's Kingdom.

    • @thelightrevealstheplace6361
      @thelightrevealstheplace6361 Před 5 lety

      GiA JuSt'INa
      1 John 2: 15.
      Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. 16. For everything in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-comes not from the Father but from the world.

    • @dandraking2580
      @dandraking2580 Před 5 lety +11

      LoL, people find it easier to use GOD as an excuse to not be responsible.
      They were taught to believe, so it's safer to go back to that security. Once they step into reality, they don't have any tools to defend themselves.
      They were never given any tools to cope with reality.
      They don't want to be RESPONSIBLE.
      It's sad that people will choose to live their lives scared of going to hell and not one person walking on this planet has proven that there is a hell in the biblical sense.
      People will choose to fight the "right fight" just to be right.
      So when the topic of religion comes up and I say I don't believe until tangible proof is provided and I'm told something ridiculous like you need to believe, have faith blah, blah, blah... I become responsible by saying anything is possible or I don't know.
      But when I hear people using the Bible as proof, I simply ask " are you willing to throw your children in a pit of fire because your Bible is the word of God and it says to do so?
      Well, the moral of the story is you can't out do crazy so why bother.
      Life is to short to be weighted down by fears of a man made scare tactic.
      Grow some balls and question everything.
      Be responsible, it's so much easier.

    • @ethiomel9444
      @ethiomel9444 Před 5 lety +9

      ShinRaPresident Then why is God demanding worship ? Isn’t that the whole point why he sends some to hell? Love me worship, tell me how great I am, if you don’t I will send you to hell. Where is the Free will in that? It’s like god saying you can pick whatever you want caz I give you freedom of choice, but if you don’t pick what I want you to pick I will send you to hell?

    • @malinstella6965
      @malinstella6965 Před 5 lety +2

      the light reveals the place - BULL SHIT!

  • @michaelrch
    @michaelrch Před 5 lety +28

    After a shakey start, I actually liked the sound of John from Florida. He seemed much more open to new information than most theists and certainly than most born again Christians. It seems he just have a lot of reading and videos ahead of him. I hope he takes the bull by the horns. That's the fun part about challenging your religious beliefs. You end up learning a heap of new things, most of them are the really interesting stuff about the world 😀
    Good luck on your journey John.

    • @ginajustiniano84
      @ginajustiniano84 Před 5 lety +6

      Yes good luck john he seems like a great and smart guy just he hangs around too many Christians possibly

    • @michellebrown4903
      @michellebrown4903 Před rokem

      @@ginajustiniano84 he's a moron.

  • @benjaminfrontier8487
    @benjaminfrontier8487 Před 3 lety +3

    I appreciate the caller's honesty

  • @Carlos-fl6ch
    @Carlos-fl6ch Před 3 lety

    I am allways very happy to watch matt when he lets the other person make their points. Than his quick responses are son interesting. This conversation passed so quickly while it's one of his longest.
    Off course the caller is also very honest and a good conversationalist

  • @dollarbill2208
    @dollarbill2208 Před 4 lety +24

    This is about as polite and patient as you will ever see Matt on a call of this nature.

  • @gordface1
    @gordface1 Před 4 lety +18

    Loved the squeeeky "whaaaat?" in the background when John said he now believes im the book of Eric. Holy shit, all hail Eric and the prophecy of Sunday.

  • @foley15136
    @foley15136 Před 3 lety +26

    Matt is *THE KING* of interruption.
    “Ok, go ahead and comment.. HOLD ON. STOP! NO! YOU’RE ON HOLD! GOODBYE!!”

  • @thomasowens5824
    @thomasowens5824 Před 3 lety +1

    One of the best conversations I have listened to so far, the caller was great towards the end and gave me hope that not all Christian's are beyond rational thought.

  • @j.m.b5441
    @j.m.b5441 Před 4 lety +61

    I kept listening and maybe, just maybe there is hope with John.
    You should've said "John I think you're an athiest but you don't know it"

  • @seanjones2456
    @seanjones2456 Před 4 lety +57

    I MISS TRACI AND MATT!

    • @TheDeven1000
      @TheDeven1000 Před 4 lety +6

      Traci balances Matt very well

    • @roberthampton9072
      @roberthampton9072 Před 3 lety

      Well u won't have to worry about missing them cause all of u will burn in hell

    • @seanjones2456
      @seanjones2456 Před 3 lety +14

      @@roberthampton9072 Tell an atheist that they are gonna burn in hell is like telling an adult that Santa is not gonna bring them presents.

    • @TeamRandomNoob
      @TeamRandomNoob Před 3 lety +2

      @@roberthampton9072 Ill see ya there

    • @_Somsnosa_
      @_Somsnosa_ Před 2 lety +1

      @@roberthampton9072 Have fun being reincarnated into a slug, heathen.

  • @svenrichtmann6792
    @svenrichtmann6792 Před 4 měsíci

    This is the Matt I look forward to hearing. And the caller is reasonable, in that he genuinely attempts to answer questions.

  • @colinriley8738
    @colinriley8738 Před 2 lety +3

    Mat just blew his mind. Can’t believe I’ve missed this one.

  • @asandiegoguy
    @asandiegoguy Před 5 lety +247

    These two don’t have good chemistry

    • @hakureikura9052
      @hakureikura9052 Před 4 lety +51

      agreed... but who knows, maybe they have good alchemy?

    • @flipwright1138
      @flipwright1138 Před 4 lety +14

      2 Alphas

    • @kubanpanzer
      @kubanpanzer Před 4 lety +57

      Thing Eric is molding himself after Matt... but he is not there yet.. he charges aggressively while making logic or substance mistakes. He talks like Matt but he doesn’t listen like Matt.
      He’s not bad tho. Give him 10 years and he will be a worthy successor..

    • @iamvickie9145
      @iamvickie9145 Před 4 lety +33

      @@kubanpanzer I agree. I like Eric. He can handle Matt and that's good. Eric is host of this show...not Matt. If allowed, Matt will dominate the calls. Matt is very passionate about what he does and it's hard for him to back down a bit so you must be a strong host or co-host or you will never get a chance to speak.

    • @Tezwah
      @Tezwah Před 4 lety +21

      @@iamvickie9145 Mainly because Matt understands the issue with the arguments, I think if the co host is able to refute the caller Matt will happily sit back and listen but that often isn't the case

  • @seansavage4766
    @seansavage4766 Před 5 lety +19

    Seems like Eric is competing with Matt

    • @HobokenSquatCobbler
      @HobokenSquatCobbler Před 4 lety

      @@arthousefilms Small Man Syndrome... it's what I think too every time I watch Eric on these videos.

  • @togashifc
    @togashifc Před 4 lety +8

    The hosts were wayyyyy more patient with this guys compared to the others for some reasons

  • @CondemnedGuy
    @CondemnedGuy Před 3 lety +11

    It's always funny to see Matt and Eric do a show together, they have pretty different ways to go at things.

  • @SquatchRN
    @SquatchRN Před 5 lety +37

    Matt kinda takes over the show. I enjoy both but matt has been doing this for much longer. He is hard to beat with logic.

    • @DayLateGamerWill
      @DayLateGamerWill Před 4 lety +3

      Matt should get his own show, a nice hr or two show, same concept. Id watch that shit

    • @bleedinggreengold5646
      @bleedinggreengold5646 Před 4 lety

      Eric tries hard but pales in comparison.

  • @robsaxepga
    @robsaxepga Před 4 lety +300

    I don't think Eric and Matt are a good combo.

    • @DayLateGamerWill
      @DayLateGamerWill Před 4 lety +30

      Def not on this day they werent

    • @jeice13
      @jeice13 Před 4 lety +32

      Them stopping each other from interpreting uncharitably really helped this not break down quickly

    • @resablue
      @resablue Před 4 lety +58

      I usually don't watch when the two of them are paired. Eric gets noticeably pissed when Matt interrupts him or worse, when Matt corrects or disagrees with him.

    • @andybeans5790
      @andybeans5790 Před 4 lety +60

      Don is a good match for Matt because he lets Matt talk over him, I don't blame Eric for wanting to have a say on his own show and not being sidelined by callers who treat TH as an AXp pre-show.

    • @donwanna3906
      @donwanna3906 Před 4 lety +79

      I don't think Matt and anyone make a good combo. Matt should be on his own because...well, even when there's someone on the show, he's still pretty much the only one talking.

  • @adropofgoldensun27
    @adropofgoldensun27 Před rokem +5

    It's Eric's show and no one is going to run it but him, not even Matt. 😁

  • @TheNightmareBeforeyouakaDrnigh

    U can tell Eric is trying to play smart, but Matt is smart and makes Eric look even more stupid.

  • @Symos
    @Symos Před 5 lety +53

    If anyone cares, S2,E14 of Star Trek is "Wolf in the Fold"

    • @MrKit9
      @MrKit9 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Scyllax Yes.

    • @Devoguy
      @Devoguy Před 4 lety +1

      REDJAK REDJAK REDJAK!

    • @akaakaakaak5779
      @akaakaakaak5779 Před 4 lety

      I literally watched that episode last night as I ate my dinner, I hadn’t realised it was that one, quite a coincidence

    • @BlackwolvezFullMoonRecordz
      @BlackwolvezFullMoonRecordz Před 4 lety

      Symos awesome 🐺💨💨💨🌕👌🏾

    • @Shylade
      @Shylade Před 4 lety

      Akaakaaka ak it was god...there are no coincidences.
      Okay I tried to hold a straight face saying that but it didn’t last long

  • @smilinfool
    @smilinfool Před 5 lety +106

    The brain of a religious person makes my brain hurt. Education matters John.

    • @terryperring104
      @terryperring104 Před 5 lety +8

      There a switch that flips in some people. A very special form of schizophrenia. Jesus probs had it too

  • @RCDeschene
    @RCDeschene Před 3 lety +5

    This has got to be the calmest and tame I think I've ever seen Matt. It's kind of scary, actually.

  • @Y2Kaynen87
    @Y2Kaynen87 Před 4 lety +2

    Finally! An open minded born christian who is willing to sit down and understand reasoning and points by Matt. I wish more were like him.

  • @MrSubsound90
    @MrSubsound90 Před 4 lety +14

    Reminds me of a neighbor and her bossy obnoxious 2 yr old:
    "Did you ask them what they thought or did you tell them what they thought?"

  • @chaisclements6701
    @chaisclements6701 Před 5 lety +91

    Eric, calm down. Everybody sees you.

    • @arthousefilms
      @arthousefilms Před 4 lety +15

      hahaha! He does that crap a lot on various episodes. I can hardly stand to watch him.

    • @Vagabor123
      @Vagabor123 Před 4 lety +20

      No one cares about him. We only want matt to talk

    • @kennyw871
      @kennyw871 Před 4 lety +8

      Not so fast, I can't see him and did not know he was there. Thanks.

    • @sqlblindman
      @sqlblindman Před 4 lety +1

      @@Vagabor123
      I want Matt to shut up. Eric is a much better host.
      Matt should go back to his own show.

    • @edwardbyrne1353
      @edwardbyrne1353 Před 4 lety +4

      I think its a bad move putting somebody in the number one seat and Matt in number two, you can see the irritation on Matt's face.

  • @AlexPBenton
    @AlexPBenton Před 2 lety +6

    Looking back at Eric’s weekday prediction, it’s so much funnier now that I’ve heard someone call into the show to say that Jesus predicted the seven day week XD

  • @johnallison6054
    @johnallison6054 Před rokem +1

    Kudos to John for honestly appraising his beliefs

  • @aquabat104
    @aquabat104 Před 5 lety +36

    Doesn't sound like Matt and Eric totally agree on their approach.

    • @TheSocratesian
      @TheSocratesian Před 5 lety +2

      Eric is a douche.

    • @abc456f
      @abc456f Před 5 lety

      @@TheSocratesian I'd say he comes across as very unlikable. But yeah, douche will do.

    • @johnkeep5877
      @johnkeep5877 Před 5 lety +3

      I think they have two different approaches and I love watching eric...

    • @rexusthevaliant6311
      @rexusthevaliant6311 Před 5 lety

      @@TheSocratesian Look at this douchey douche with his douchey beard going around being douchtastic.

  • @ekayn1606
    @ekayn1606 Před 4 lety +110

    "The Bible is more comparable to science..." The Bible says that the Sun rotates around the Earth....

    • @wolf1066
      @wolf1066 Před 4 lety +26

      And that the moon is a "lesser light" that only comes out at night.

    • @metatronblack
      @metatronblack Před 4 lety +1

      Where? 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @wolf1066
      @wolf1066 Před 4 lety +21

      @@metatronblack Genesis 1 describes the separating of waters by a firmament, the creation of Earth and seas and then, in verse 16, the placing of a "greater" and a "lesser" *light* in the firmament.
      And thereby you've learned everything you need to know about what flat earthers believe.
      That's what happens when you rely on a collection of ancient camp-fire tales as your guide to the Universe.

    • @seanjones2456
      @seanjones2456 Před 4 lety +7

      @@wolf1066 42!

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Před 4 lety +4

      @@wolf1066 C'mon it's not all bad. It has a Zombie Apocalypse!

  • @horrido666
    @horrido666 Před 3 lety +3

    They tell us what we believe, yet they think we are the arrogant ones.

  • @latebuslewy
    @latebuslewy Před 3 lety +9

    Matt looks frustrated with Eric, Eric trying to control things and Matt is like sit down amateur lol

  • @ExecutionersBong-bn9kx
    @ExecutionersBong-bn9kx Před 5 lety +58

    Master and apprentice - no disrespect meant Eric , we all learn from Matt