The Asetek Forte Pedals are NOT what I expected! | Review
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2022
- The Asetek Forte Pedals are not what ChampionJoe expected in advance ... but what are the reasons? In our latest edition of Joe's Hardware Corner he tests the pedals for you and gives you an assessment whether he can recommend them to you or not. Tune in and find out.
Have you tried the Asetek Forte Pedals yet? Let us know in the comments! 👇✍️
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I got the fortes and love them.
Upgraded from fanatec v3’s and I’m able to brake later and more consistently with trail braking not being a problem.
Took a while to get used to them for sure.
I use socks and have no problem with comfort.
The connection problem happens because of the cable. Mine kept randomly disconnecting but since bought a new cable I've never had the same problem. Therefore, the solution is to buy a brand new USB-A to USB-C. I hope this helps.
I haven't had a single issue with my Forte pedals, fingers crossed. I really like them but the curve to getting used to the super stiff brake was steep. I drive with socks but very thick ones and it's fine for me
Nearly had me but Dan Suziki set the record straight with these went another route instead and bought VRS
Thanks for the review
Nice looking pedals and you can get use to anything, but I like a normal load cell pressure based setup.
Had them. WOrked nice but I never got on with that base plate so sold them and wnet to Imsim pedals. Very happy now.
Joe I have the Invictas and never had an issues with connections or disconnecting.
Just placed my order for the invicta pagani set 👌🇩🇰
Tip off the day : when racing with hard/stifg pedsls lift your heel up and use your leg to put pressure (like real driver do ) yull have way more controll and wont hurt your ancles 👌
In the uk these pedals are the same price as the moza crp pedals and has a clutch, wanted to see how much better these pedals are if at all in comparison
I'm buying a new simrace cockpit and i have two questions:
1) Are this pedals compatible with a fanatec dd1 base?
2) Are this pedals compatible for a Playseat F1 ultimate cockpit mount?
Bought them, sent it back after couple of days, because the brake feels bad and thanks Dan_Suzuki choose the VRS pedals, the best pedals for 550eu!
Excellent pedals, these are what I went with aswell no issues,I changed the blue for red and absolutely love em
@@trevz1048 The build quality is superbe for sure but due to implementation of the tiny load cell used in this pedal trail braking isn't so impressive from some accounts anyway.
Yeah VRS are the best non-hydraulic pedals IMO
@@kevinblythe2192 he went with VRS pedals too
thought about getting them but after dans vid i went for bj steel ones so far i dont regret it
man
im glad i waited tbh, they announced a bunch of other shit not too long ago
and like everything is upgradable, pedals, wheelbase & even their f1 wheel
lowkey turning into an asetek fanboy
US sizes are one size bigger than UK sizes btw and if you have super large feet at an 11....I have a UK size 12
Generally confused on why Dan had so much issues with the pedals as well as your self while boosted media raved about them and put them toe to toe with the sprints. Maybe calibration differences? Or driving style differences? Very odd to see such polar opinions on sim gear
@02bluehawk you will learn not to trust people you think are trustworthy sometime bills are more important than respect
Also boosted media decided not to take them apart as he normally does I wonder why????????
@@Simlife101 What are you talking about? Boosted Media does not take pedals apart. Why would they? I think that dude's opinions are pretty genuine. You are just obtuse and biased.
3:31 how about a thin piece of rug placed over the stripes ? Heck caulk the bugger down if you like it and your good to go :>)
Hallo, gibt's das Video auch auf deutsch? Kann mich schwer so lange konzentrieren 😅
Nice Review, even though I thought it would be more negative xD
I don't particularly like Asetek, because it's holding hostage all AIO watercooling with the "head/pump" patent. I saw glowing reviews of these pedals from everyone and almost bought them. But thankfully I came across Dan's video, and went with Sprints instead*. Something was telling me "it's too good to be true", especially from this company.
*I'm a software dev., and my server colleagues have a saying "nobody was ever fired by buying Intel". In simracing, You can't go wrong with Heusinkveld.
Looked at sprints for a long time but Vrs pedals seemed the best bet and I'm happy I went that way can't fault them they are solid
@@trevz1048 Sure, once you get into upper range, most loadcell pedals will be similar and you'll be happy with most of them. I firstly wanted to save a little and buy DC simracing pedals, but once I saw the free baseplate, it was no brainer.
They certainly look the part.
Simagic P2000 for the win ❤️
my take away from the video: Did he just say 46/11 are " super large feet" ??? Im over here with my size 15s bout to chop off my toes now. 😅
😂😂😅
During the connection problems, were you guys using the usb-c to usb-a cable? I was using that cable and had connection problems too sometimes (also 50%brake and 50% throttle input). When I switched to the usb-c to usb-c cable I have never had connection issues.
Edit: Also one thing to note. The brake pedal being similar to a potentiometer is imo still not something to be said as a downside. At the start of every LC pedal set it's life, 100kg of force will be the same travel distance every time, it too will just measure similar to a potentiometer setup this way. Over time though, the elastomers of other pedalsets will deform and lose their strength. Because Asetek has encapsulated their elastomers, and thereby restrict the amount they can deform, they will not lose their strength (anywhere nearly as quickly). So where with a heusinkveld sprint or venym atrax pedal the elastomer can lose it's power and your pedal travel will change slightly, whereas with this it will stay the same and therefore it doesn't matter much that it tracks pedal travel, since the force you are exerting will virtually always be the same.
I bought them before I saw Dan Suzuki's review and when I bought them I was under the impression that they really were like every other load cell pedal. Would I have preferred it to be that way? Yes, of course. After having used them for around 4 months now though, do I care or do I notice that they don't function like every other load cell pedal? No I don't. They are still a very nice pedal set, I can be accurate with it, I have good control, they are very smooth in operation and I am a happy customer.
Guess the problem here is, that they are marketed like every other load-cell pedal.
Wouldn't be as much as a problem, if Asetek made it clear right from the start, that the loadcell in this pedal-set isn't for meassuring breakpressure, but only for increased product lifetime and consistancy over the lifetime.
That's why the VRS pedals are so great because of spring and no deformation as the spring is very strong/hard
Dude can you help me with my pedals? I can’t find a good configuration yet, from 80 to 20 they drop so fast, I can’t trail brake rn
There is no other pedal choice after the Simucube force feedback pedals.The same was with DD wheels. There is no way back. You will see after the release:)
On release these pedals will work differently?
@@vsm1456 yes…. They will blow up obviously
I don't even own these and I feel scammed by the marketing of these pedals
Yes. It seems most marketing and a number of reviews continue to imply they use a 180kg load cell but from all accounts it uses a tiny load cell closer to 5kg. The rest of the load is basically taken up by elastomer resistance so trail braking sensitivity can be compromised.
@@kevinblythe2192 curious to know where you got this info I can’t find anything about that when . searching
Playing with the force curve makes it feel much more natural. I like it quite progressive, helps alot with trailbraking. The fact that it's not "real" load cell doesn't mean anything in the end. The brake is superb, once you get used to how stiff it is
@@kevinblythe2192 5$ load cell not 5kg
The brake works like the clutch and throttle of heusinkveld pedals haha
@Patrick Durka. I have the sprints and the Ultimates I've also tried and they do not have the same throttle and clutch as the invicta brake pedal. He uses loadcells for nothing but pressure on both clutch and throttle so not sure who told you that
@@Simlife101 no one is saying the invicts brake is travel based. But the forte brake is
@@Simlife101 the forte brake uses a 1kg loadcell with a thin spring to measure distance like the he throttle or clutch. If you dont know that, check out some reviews..
@@Simlife101 and if you dont know that the system on the heusinkveld clutch and throttle measures distance, i dont know how to help you
Is that a $0.50 bathroom scale load cell that only measures travel on a $499 pedal set? Why not just use a proper 100kg+ load cell to measure the pedal force? Mechanically that would be simpler and might be cheaper to manufacture...
100 kg loadcell is about 35 €, twice the price for 200 kg and availability might be a problem as well. The Asetek-method is quite simple once you got the idea how to do it.
Definitely pedals to be worn with shoes.
Stick a keyboard wrist rest where your heel goes mate, £10 and no more sore feet.
Why is compressing 1, 2 or 3 elastomers on a loadcell more accurate than a spring? Both provide resistance and feel between your foot and the loadcell. Both make the actual pedal move so by that logic elastomers and spring makes the pedal behave like a potentiometer. The only way to get away from that is a 100% hard pedal, and no one wants that.
I completely fail to follow Suzuki's reasoning here as elastomers do the EXACT same thing.
What they are on about is that with normal pedals the elastomers direct the force of the pedals directly to the load cell. With the Forte pedals you are compressing an elastomer, but the elastomer does not direct the force to the load cell. The pedal pushes the tiny spring against the load cell only based on the pedal travel. Springs are not inherently less accurate than elastomers, think of the T-LCM pedalset or the VRS pedals. It is just the way that it is applied in this case is what everyone is freaking out about. However, as I mentioned in my comment, I really don't care as a customer. I really like driving with the pedals and they are just a very good set of pedals.
Even Dan Suzuki said that they are not a bad set of pedals at all, they just operate differently from the competition.
Jesper, it's not about accuracy, the problem I see here is that the force you apply on the pedal is now disconnected from pedal readings. At the first stage of pressing the pedal, while you haven't reached elastomer yet, your force and the pedal readings match - i.e. 10% more pressure results in 10% more reading. But once you hit elastomer, they don't match anymore: you apply 10% more pressure, but since elastomer is hard to compress the pedal travel is only, I don't know, 3% for example - and this will also be what pedals report, +3% signal.
Why it can be a problem? Loadcell pedals became popular because they don't report pedal travel like potentiometers or hall sensors, instead they report pressure (even if there's little or no travel at all) and it's more fitting for human body: it usually easy to remember how to apply X amount of force than how to move one thing X centimeters. Bonus, this is also how regular brakes work: your foot pushes against brake piston to create X amount of pressure between brake pads and brake discs. So a loadcell pedal is more natural to use and is also closer to reality.
You get none of that with Asetek Forte, even though it's a $500 set of pedals marketed as loadcell. This doesn't automatically make it a bad product (some might like the way it works anyway) but it does make it at least questionable, in my eyes.