La Prima Sim Racing Pedals | An Honest Review…
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0:00 Intro
Specs & Features: 1:09
Throttle Pedal 3:03
Brake Pedal 5:23
Conclusion 7:50
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Thing costs 398 Euros, plus if you want to add a clutch it costs 297 Euros on top of that
For real, talk about clickbait.
they are 560 euros in norway, not very cheap at all
EU problems lmao
you can get a clutch for 150eur
I see 334 euros on their site. Compared to 3k euros for Simucube pedals, this is cheap haha
Please do more videos about pedals!! Especially pedals WITH a clutch
Ok ok 👍
Also worth to mention that there is only a 5 kg loadcell inside the brake-cylinder which is actually measuring travel, not pressure. Some people claim they have problems because of it.
I think this is a bit misunderstood. I'm not an expert, so take it as you will, but to my knowledge (and a tiny bit of research) all these types of load cells measure "deflection" or travel. The sensor itself doesn't measure "raw pressure", the deflection or travel is converted from pressure by whatever "block" the sensor is attached to and how the design is calibrated. The stiffer the block the more pressure is needed to deflect the strain gauge on the sensor (thicker metal is harder to bend). Typical sim racing load cells just stack elastomers and springs against the load cell block, and so you apply pressure directly on the block, which transfers to deflection or "travel"" on the sensor. Asetek basically deconstructed the typical load cell and somewhat inversed the direction of force applied to the sensor. In their design the elastomer is pushing against a solid "block" not directly attached linearly to load cell sensor. And then, a weaker spring is used to push against and deflect the sensor itself based on the amount of pressure you can apply through the elastomer against the solid block. The effect is the same, but the math and calibration is different. You could also argue that you can achieve better resolution across the sensor's available deflection this way as you have more control on the calibration since you don't have the block directly attached to the sensor. So while I agree people have issues with it because it requires a different calibration technique, I think saying that it doesn't measure pressure like others do is misleading. The Asetek CEO addressed this in a CZcams video and I think explained it reasonably well. Is it a better design? No idea. But IMHO the design has gotten way too much unjustified hate. (sorry for the novel)
@@bourbonbristlesThe normal loadcells are 100 or 200 kg, so they are measuring pressure. You can replace the elastomers with solid plastics and they still work.
@@Leynad778 Yes, on the same page there, but the 100-200kg is the force you can apply to the "body" of the load cell to cause the strain gauge attached to it to deflect. Load cell = strain gauge + metal body. Take away the metal body and you have the strain gauge, which you'll find in the Asetek pedal. They just moved the metal body to a different component. So, as long as they have calibrated the force needed to compress the spring, which deflects the gauge, you'll get the same result, and it is still measuring pressure. Change the system incorrectly, though, and you throw off the calibration, and then travel may affect the pressure more than on a standard load cell. For example, I switch out the elastomers for a spring for driving street cars/trucks. Gives me more travel and less required pressure across the range. It's still measuring the pressure of a spring compressing against the sensor. Having said that, I do think that the system isn't as "robust" as a typical load cell, so eventually, that spring's properties will change and alter the measurement of the force, faster and more inconsistently than a standard block. Not exactly sure why they choose this system but I do like how adjustable it is.
@@bourbonbristlesI haven't tried it, but people talking about issues with this concept regarding lack of precision and problems to calibrate properly. Scaling down a 200 kg loadcell to 5 kg certainly doesn't help with precision and the slightest difference in friction of the elastomer within the caliber, for example due to heat expansion, has too much of an impact on the tiny spring and loadcell. But again, I haven't tried it, but Dan Suzuki was talking about his problems with the brake and I certainly take him serious.
Did you switch the brake elastomer to the softer one they provide? I noticed that made them much more comfortable for me
Good review👍👍 And great job editing!
Thanks!
One thing that seems undercommunicated with these (and the Invicta pedals) is how incredibly rediculously stiff they are, thankfully you highlighted it here. I bought a set of Invicta pedals, had them for a weekend, then returned them. They are solidly built, but unless you are only using them as intended by stomping on the brake to hit the second stage, then rolling off for trail braking then you will not enjoy them. Applying smaller brake inputs to alter the balance of the car or settle it out is rather hit and miss as it just feels like you are pushing up against a wall. I found them OK for GT3 racing, and downright horrible for rally in Dirt 2.0 or road cars in Assetto Corsa. In addition to the stiffness the Invictas also had a noticable stickyness to the travel when going on/off the brakes. It was audible, you could feel it when racing and even see it in the pedal force trace graphs. Very much a try before you buy pedal set - either you will love them or hate them, but the latter is an expensive experience given the restock fee of 20% as I had mounted them for testing.
Edit: Before anyone comments, I'm a fairly well trained guy, and I don't skip leg day, but these pedals are just silly. Without the g-forces of a real car giving you feedback on how hard you are braking you just feel like you are pushing into a wall that flexes ever so slightly under food.
I ended up getting a set of SimGrade VX-pro's instead and I could not be happier. They can be set up softer than Fanatec V3's or even stiffer than the Invictas, and they have an adjustable travel length to the second stage. Best of all worlds. I did a bit of a reddit review on them here:
www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/1aw6bng/i_switched_from_asetek_invicta_to_simgrade_vxpros/
Im thinking about getting my first wheel and want help deciding, so rn g29 is on amazon for 230, and the t248 is on amazon used for 280, should i get any of these or get some more money and choose some other wheels or even direct drive wheels. I would prefer ps support since i have gt7, alongside pc games. Also, is it worth to get ps support for gt7? Or is it better to get a better wheel with only pc support since there arent alot of cheap direct drive wheels with ps support
Hey, both the G29 and T248 are decent entry-level wheels, the step-up to a direct drive system will be a night and day difference though. In terms of entry-level direct-drives, you can find what I recommend here: www.ocsimracing.com/reviews/sim-racing-for-
If you constantly play on your playstation as well as on your PC, it may be worth it to consider something like the Fanatec GT DD Pro which offers support for PS4/5. However, if you don't play much on your Playstation and mostly on PC, the increase in price may not be worth it.
Let me know your thoughts.
For the 60 dollar difference between the g29 and t248, which would u recommend. Im not gonna pull the trigger just yet, ill play gt7 more and see if i want to get ps support. I currently plan to play acc, forza motorsport, f1 on pc. Ill let you know what choice i land on, whenever i do since this is a expensive hobby😂
If i do think that ps support is not important, would something like the moza r5 or csl bundle be a good choice or is there something even a better choice?
Thanks for the help
@@craxxfn1055 For the $60 difference, I would say go for the T248.
With regards to budget DD systems, the R5 or CSL bundles are the best in the market at the moment in my opinion.
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@@OCRacing of course, thanks alot for the help
Also wanted to ask if there would be sterring wheels that come default with the qr2 system without needing to buy it for every wheel
Yes, all of the new Fanatec direct drive systems come with the QR2 base side. In terms of the rims, I know some of them do but I also know some don’t come with a QR system at all so it’s just a matter of carefully checking on their website before purchasing.
thanks@@OCRacing
"plz took forever to edit this" 🤣 I already did buddy long time ago
I appreciate you 🤣
But no clutch😢 good vid oc!
Clutch sold separately 😔
Microcenter sells these same La Prima pedals made by Asetek as TK Racing pedals for $199.
Yeah I’ve seen them everytime I go. I have zero idea why the TK version is so much cheaper though
@@OCRacing Or vice versa .... 🤔
@@OCRacing or why there is no tk version of anyhting in europe? That would be cool
@@OCRacing Micro center is off loading the TK asetek gear since he hopped to simucube. I got the full bundle for 800 and it's amazing.
@@user-my3yp1wb2z TK asetek is in Microcenter only which is a US store and requires in-store purchase.
hi oc racing can you make an updated version of fanatec ecosystem lineup and also explaining the whole qr2 thing
Working on it now actually
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OC I am on ps5 and have the thrustmaster t150 and trying to upgrade to a dd what do you suggest do I go with the mclearn gt3, csl v2, and gt dd pro or wait for companies like Astek and Moza come to playstation?
I’ve used and recommend all the Fanatec products you’ve mentioned, and me personally I’ve been happy with them. As such I would go with those. Asetek and Moza likely won’t have PlayStation compatibility for years since I believe Fanatec has exclusivity over the licensing and they also take a long time to develop. If you do end up purchasing, feel free to use my affiliate links :)
@@OCRacing Thank you so much, I guess its time to start saving!
I am on Ps5 also. I would advise to go to the Fanatec DD Pro 8nm. It is a big big step up from Thrustmaster T150 and you are good for years ahead! I would say, make sure you add the QR2 standard also to your upgrade.
@@giogamer4825 Thank you so much, I will definitely get the QR, but I dont believe the GT DD pro is with the QR2 I believe its the QR1. However I have had the t150 pro for about 6 years so I think it will be a great upgrade!
@@kaitheguy1411 For now, the DD Pro comes with the QR1, so you will have to purchase the QR2 at extra cost, and probably for any wheel, the QR2 wheel side. In the end, you are gowing to be blown away! I came from the Thrustmaster T300 and TGT and went to the 8nm DD Pro and was like 😱
Lol was just doing research on moza r5 pedal upgrades
I know. I'm always watching.
Yeah, not something I would buy. I play on PC and PS. I also drive a lot of "H" pattern clutch stuff. I bought the Fanatec Inverted pedals, added a very heavy spring from "Menards" and a 7" long 18 lbs lift strut which slows it down but makes it feel more like the clutch I had in my old school KW semi. I drive a lot of American Truck Sim. I also added the softest of the hard rubbers for the brake. If I could have installed a Fanatec damper for a reasonable price, after I bought the pedals when they were $700 a couple of years ago. I also bought the Fanatec H pattern, an 8 N GT DD some fixed paddle shifter... Yeah, a lot of money, a lot of fun.
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i really want a review on logitech g pro wheel and pedals
Logitech hates me
why?@@OCRacing
Are you saying Aztecs? I'll say one thing theses pedals look the most like real pedals
I still stand by when I say the anodization makes a lot of asetek stuff look like plastic on camera
Can confirm it does in person as well
Yes they are good looking Oscar, sitting in a hospital waiting for surgery. Is there racing in heaven😢🙋👍
Sorry to hear Ed! Wish you the best
Cool video but I was expecting something considerably cheaper based on the title.
We have very different definitions of breaking the bank
5:10 isnt the text box wrong?
It is and I was too lazy to re-render the video… it was 2am
i wish companies that made pedal would make face plates almost everyone i look at there so small. why cant they just offer face plates
Didn't a legit Gt3 race driver say recently that most sim racing pedals are unrealistically hard?
Ronaldo popping up in the middle of this video was not on my bingo card
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High performance sim pedals that will break your legs
*that will substitute some gym equipment
@@OCRacing that will give you calves of titanium
over 400€ for 5kg loadcell break pedal...there are way better options out here
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I see where you’re coming from but looking at it from a market perspective, entry-level loadcell pedals are around the $200-300 mark.
Think Thrustmaster T-LCM, Fanatec CSL’s with the loadcell, etc. The argument could be made that these pedals cost $100+ more than those but at the same time, the Tony Kanaan Asetek version of these pedals retail for $200, and they are identical to these but with just a slightly different color theme.
So either way, whether you get the $200 or $335 versions of these pedals, they are still imo considered “affordable”, not only because they compete with the entry level pedal sets in the market but also because when you consider that there are several pedal sets that retail far in excess of $500+, these are still a more budget friendly option.
At the end of the day sim racing is expensive and these imo, are in the bracket where they’re not too crazy in price for the majority of people who want a nice rig.
I hate these pedals, I hate that they read travel and is very hard to get consistent with them lol. Hate that they base it on the spring travel with pressure and travel.
Also dont let anybody tell you that you cant get the same performoance with a more sensitive softer pedal. I perform better with more sensitivity and softer pedals. For me it came naturally.
Fanatec, worst company in sim racing. Feel obligated to post this on every video.
I'm sorry but I stopped watching at $335 ( £300 ) for a set of pedals , if you think that for some people that this " won't break the bank " then you need to enter the real world as for many 335 is a telephone number ..............
That’s understandable, it’s of course worth noting that sim racing is simply an expensive hobby. Compare it to photography for example where just a lens will cost $500 for something entry level for example and 🤷♂️
I also agree, but what to get for less, not to mention fanatec or thrustmaster??