HUGE VALUE OR HUGE FAIL? - CAMMUS LC100 Load Cell Sim Racing Pedal Review
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The CAMMUS LC100 pedals have clearly had a lot of inspiration from much more expensive sets of Sim Racing Pedals, and on paper, are a clear outlier within their price range. At US$259 the CAMMUS CL100 3 pedal set with Load Cell brake could be an absolute bargain if their performance and build quality live up to their specs.
Sound too good to be true? Let's find out!
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Intro: 0:00
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Pricing & Comparisons: 1:19
Feature Breakdown: 4:30
Closer Details & Driving Experience: 9:49
Conclusions: 26:05
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I hope to one day wake up and see Will's review of the Simjack pro pedals. Really would like your opinion before I bite the bullet this summer 😅
I have 4 mates in our sim racing community who went for the Simjacks, they have had no complaints at all after about 4months of use. Hope it helps a bit too know that there are gents out there at league level of racing that have absolutely no issues with them
I also use the simjack pro's. I would definitely recommend getting one of the aftermarket brake mods but other than that I have 0 complaints.
i've got the simsonn pedals, simsonn has upgraded ball bearings (no wobble) and additional elastomers and spring options in te box.
Check the simsonn pedals as well, very similar to the simjack, but a bit lower price and no wobble.
I have simsonn pedals only issue i ran into was the pedals themselves sit too high without a base plate. I got vnm baseplate and it fits perfectly. The baseplate itself did not fit my ebay cockpit so i had to buy some additional brackets to fit them on. I have been tracking better times on silverstone and laguna seca coming from fanatec v3s its been great. If your willing to go through and make adjustments you cant go wrong theres plenty of other good reviews out there for these pedals along with brake setups. I only opted for replacing stock spring with red spring and kept the red elastomers for now.
I’d like to see a Sim Jack/Simsonn review.
Guessing he'll never review them for commercial reasons.
Hey Will :) Glad to see your review of this one. Just to check with you, during our review, we had 3 major problems with those pedals: the damper was misplaced (as you noticed) but also a huge amount of flex on the plate itself, and most interesting, the fact that if you apply the force slowly on the brake, you can literally push to the max without the Load Cell noticing anything. Any idea about those?
We didn’t experience flex with the mounting plate the way we had it mounted, but it absolutely would flex without a supporting structure under it.
We didn’t experience that issue with the load cell but I’m guessing that area at the back of the assembly that I showed in the review is probably binding up and not allowing the rear of the load cell to deflect proportionally to the force applied.
Why are people talking about this as it was a completely new product? The LC100 have been around for a while, they only got a refresh.
Because this refresh makes it a completely new product.
Hey, great review as always! Have you ever looked into Simjack or Simsonn pedals? They seem too good to be true. I´d really like a review on those. They´re in the range of 200-300$ and seem like really solid loadcells to me. If you need a link, I can help.
I have been running the older gen 1 lc100 pedals and in my experiance the pedals took alot to get the feeling right. I lenthend the throttle throw and shortened the clutch.. the vrake pedal took the longest as i had to learn how it worked... The gen 1 lc100 brake pedal load cell required you to space the front of the loadcell up to get it to register in the first part of brake application and when i made the pedal stiffer i bent the pivot .. not cammus fault my error after fixing that and further adjustment i found it all worked well. I also sprayed some ptfe on the shafts before use. Im used to it now and i am very happy with the set... I did have an issue with the sensor bugging out and becoming erratic... Turns out dust on the contacts where to blame.. deff check this if you have issues... Seems the update moved the control box from an external box to fitted into the throttle pedal, bearings used in the pivots rather then bushes and the load cell issues from out the box look to be sorted. Really i think that is you had to buy a pedal set for what cost me just under $500 aud delived to my door. Melbourne Vic. The alterantives arnt as strong. Thrustmaster pedals are a lower end product for the same price and logitech pro are $100 aud more.for not that much improvement over the standard pedals at least in my experiance. Would love to try out a set of fanatec v2 but deff another jump up in price... So not sure whether to compare with the others at the pricepoint or pedals with similar features.. either way i think they have been good for the last 6-8 months of use and are a solid pedal at the price but require alot of tweaking to get right so if your the type of person that will take things apart and put it back together youll be aright but if its use as it come out of the box you will be dissapointed
Thanks
I can confirm you don't need to do anything like that on V2. I have both and I did a review on V1
Yo I love your reviews ...Please keep it up.....💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
and bad choices...
I would love to see a review of the simjack pro pedals
Awesome review!
I'm interested to see if cammus sticks around for the long term, or if this is a short term dabbling... then again even logitech has been quite non-committal too
like to hear his opinion on the simjack pro pedals
I would love to see him do the SimDT pedals and compare them to the original HE Ultimates to see where the differences are
I like the simplistic open design for easy access to springs and the look overall. But I cant find a positive comment under this video from people who used them 😂. Real shame, this very competitive price point and would be great to see more reliable options outside tlcm.
I am fully enjoying my set which is the same version in this video CAMMUS sent them to me as well last month. This is my first experience with load cell though
hey, just a thought on a video idea. but 3 used "starter" wheels and pedals, thinking two from Logitech, two from Thrustmaster and each of the two at a different price point. compare them against each other and versus a low end DD bundle.
not needing these as i have the sprints, but watch to know i they are worth recommending to friends. And yes i would download a car!! 🚙
also this feels like a hard no on the recommends! Sorry Cammus!
@@simon-b I don't agree with him on the recommendation of the Fanatec over these. unless you want to move your pedals faces up and down. I own both and the Cammus pedals look like high-end pedals. Yes, They require more DIY to adjust. but at least you are not stuck with fanatec overprice accessories.
Do you have a review anywhere of the 15nm direct drive cammus wheel?
Hi,there have been reviews about how changing the settings of the c12 greatly improves its ffb.Are you interested in trying out any of these settings?
We spent a lot of time experimenting with settings but always happy to look at other people’s setups.
Hi Will, when are you going to review the Simagic P1000 / P2000?
ASAP :)
i had my LC-100's for 2 an half weeks an i went to easy on the brake's in a race on ACC an there was nothing there then all of a sudden there was full brakes then then it was gone again then there was brakes needless to same i damn near took out the whole field going into turn 1 so i left the game opened the software held the brake you could see where i was holding pressure on the brake but the value bar would keep jumping from full to nothing full to nothing so i got a hold of them through email which is a mess all in itself an there fix was( to keep pushing the min an max buttons till the bar stabilized) i scratched my head for awhile on that one fix but did it anyway never did get the bar to stabilize an hold a value ordered the sprint pedals never had a problem again this just one of many issues i had with the few products i bought from them bought the C5 bundle with the C5 pedals in November when i first started sim-racing the brake pedal was DOA never worked properly 3.5 months after buying it the right padal shifter broke off took almost 2 months from them to replace the the C5 base then the LC-100 issues i was done with them after that went to moza an sprint pedals never had an issue agian not here to bash them just telling my honest experience
Thanks for sharing your experience. This is the info viewers need, from people who own stuff and use it every day :)
Much appreciated. Long term use feedback is the most valuable.
i got mt T-LCMs for 160 pounds new from TM and love them but i am still on a desk for the min, considering they are often the cheapest load cells on the market often they are really good value but then i dont have a frame of reference other than the g923 pedals
@@awakeandwatching953 i have a set of t-lcm that have worn out finally, from a LOT of use. T-lcm are really good and i think i should of bought another set of t-lcm instead of the lc100. I have a sim rig and the t-lcm are magic when mounted properly.
Holy run-on sentence!
I'm a very simple user and eventhough i've gone through many videos about tweaking them, configuration in the software, etc... I must say they are good but I expected much better. It's not an insane upgrade I expected from for instance the old T3PA Thrustmaster i had before.
I also switched from T3PA (with mod) to LC100, but for me, this is a huge upgrade.
can these be inverted, are the cables long enough to do so?
I hope the PXN PDLM pedals become available for peeps to test, though they look very similar to these pedals.
I think that they will have problems in the longterm, the way they monted the rods on the side will couse unbance in the thin arm and sideway pressure on the pivot point. maybe for drift,rally ok but with a real stiff gt3 padle ussage ???
It’s certainly a possibility. Will be interesting to see how the long term experience goes.
i have some lc100 and the arm is really strong to be honest, it has no flex at all and is a solid piece. I have some complaints with the pedals but the arms are good. edit: im no expert maybe with long term use that will induce a problem.
How would these compare to the Logitech G Pro load cell pedals?
Interested in that too.
i got my lc100 last week to replace my worn out t-lcm. I am somewhat remorseful, i cant get them in a good spot in my rig, the pedal baseplate is way too small for me, so i have a toolbox jammed infront of my pedal plate for my legs to rest on. (I am disabled so this is more challenging than normal) I am not sure if the brake pedal needs to be "broken in" because the loadcell values do not seem consistent, sometimes it is at 100% when i press this hard, and at other times its at 90% with same force. I had to set a pretty restrictive min and max deadzone to get it somewhat consistent. I def have buyers remorse and have not driven much at all since i got them which is a shame as sim driving is the only hobby i really have these days. Not sure what im gonna do!
Check the adjustment of the damper to begin with like we cover in this video. That may well be the reason you're not getting consistent input. Failing that I'd say maybe try calibrating the high point a little lower.
@@boostedmedia i did move the damper back as it would not let the pedal fully travel out of the box, and i have adjusted the set screw in the loadcell with the ball bearing on top so it makes contact properly, this was way too low out of the box. I am hoping maybe it just needs some use to make the bracket that rotates and hits the loadcell more free. I do have slightly different needs from most users so i try to not be too hard on manufacturers. I think in the future I will save for some high end pedals if it doesn't improve in time. Thank you for your reply mate
No, you made the best choice for the money. These are very good pedals. You can get these dialed-in , you just have do some DIY adjustments. along, with what Will indicated.
You can add a small O-ring washer under the load-call ball bearing. it will give a longer and much smoother brake feel. For the price you can't beat the way they look and their performance. Now, if you don't want to adjust these , I can understand. if you ask me, you made the best choice for the money. No other brand-name pedals will allow you to buy hardware store parts and even parts from other pedals.
I'm sorry . I own both sets of pedals, I moved my CSL V2 pedals to my other rig. Yes, the Cammus pedals require more adjustments., and even some DIY.
But every time some comes over they want to drive the rig with the Cammus pedals. They always say "Those "Fanatec" pedals look cheap."
Personally, I don't have the same graininess issues, but the brake was awful until it was adjusted. I also, switched the clutch and the accelerator pedal springs.
Would you be abe to review the sim fire I flag? it's a new brand and they have a tiktok
Csl with load cell @ $200 is an option in the 2-300 dollar range.
Corners need to be cut to reach that pricepoint with that kind of product. I'm a happy Logitech Pro Pedals owner and I'd only upgrade to something from Simagic or around that level.
Another option for people is the Moza SR-P pedals, they got refreshed to have a 100kg loadcell as well. Overall the brake feeling is very good (Not as stiff as say the CSL loadcell kit), allows for quite a bit of adjustment with the brake feeling if you get the accessory kit which is highly recommended.
it you look closely the his brake does actually have the retainer nut on it its just backed all the way off
It’s retaining against the clevis. It would need a second one to also retain against the preload adjustment ring.
Do a video on SimJack pedals. You seem to onoy buy very high-end gear. But for many of us. products like SimJack are a God Send. Take a look at them, if you will.
Not going to happen, Simjack are a copy of heusinkveld pedals
Price wise with that damper these look good for entry level boys
These seem very similar to the Simjack pedals but with a different aesthetic design
With that logic, you can say most pedals seem similar to each other. Lol
Are you on something? Lol
@@nativerezmediatrue, I have just spent a fair amount of time checking out them AliExpress pedals, I've not really looked at others much
@@reviewforthetube6485I meant in terms of build quality. I'm not suggesting they are Simjack pedals.
I know this is random but my leoxz xgt pro is almost here muahaha. I really hope you review it soon! Its incredible they thought about everything without needing to uodate or use there software. You can change the led on the fly with the wheel without software on the pc. You can change everything all settings through the fanatec base with the wheel. They really listened to yalls flaws on the f1 and have clesrly thought about everything. The paddles are spaced out a bit more. Grips are same size which we all loved but the gaps are a bit bigger so fingers aren't so crammed. The wheel is 295mm of pure perfection. For the price I can't see anything else competing even my gt neo can't but then again the gt neo is half the price lol. The xgt pro is all alu backplate and all real cf and cf paddles of course. Still some of my favorite sounding and feeling paddles have depth but very positive sound and feel.
P.s. I went from elite v1 way back in 2019 and went to the elite v2 pedals and I haven't gone away from them since. I tried the p1000s but for the price the elite v2s can't be beaten I'm to consistent with them to even try to change again.
What pedals are you using the most?
On my daily driver I run the Simucube Active pedals. On the VR motion rig I’m running Asetek Invictas.
Csl lc pedals $200 look into it if considering these
Not connecting the damper to the loadcell is pure waste of the damper... Whats the point to make brake slower in racing
I always run them turned down low or off on every pedal set I’ve tried that has them.
CAMMUS sent me a set of these LC 100 pedals as well i am currently using them with the C12 base.
I will check out the damper suggestion tonight after work. This is my first experience with load cell pedals so i was quite blown away with how much better they are over my standard Fanatec DD pro pedals. I was actually about to upgrade to the V3 pedal set from Fanatec.
I think i will keep running these LC 100 pedals for a while seeing as how i prefer the C12 over the DD pro.
And no it is not your technique when using pedals Will, you know this!! I have the Sprints and while they are great pedals the Heusinkveld pedal plates are cheese graters in socks!! There are companies out there the will sell nice pedal plate upgrades (HRS) where this will not be a problem! so the problem is clearly with the company selling the pedals! HRS do plates for all the big pedal brands and the are as nice as the Asetek pedal plates, but they are not cheap!
Some of these comments are wild lol. As someone who paid $1,000 US for my HE Ultimates, these look quite good from their price point. I use moza r9 and expensive pedals and I still think to this day pedals matter more than the NM of a wheel base.
Just a quick remark, there are types of stainless steel that are not magnetic.
Simsonn or simjacj are way better value than any of the budget or mid level pedals.. time to un-ignore them Will!
I really don’t like the 2 stage feeling, it feels really unnatural
No haptic feedback, no buy in 2024.
F.A.I.L
Fail - 100%
Honestly, you're better off buying some cheap G920 pedals, de-case them, pretty them up and get a trubrake, sensor board conversion for the throttle and clutch and leo bodnar cable to bypass the software curve and get more resolution, move the springs around to get some stiffness in the throttle and clutch etc.
If youre a big baller.. get some simmagic haptic motors with some mounts off ebay...
Honestly, they feel AS good as my fanatec v3's.. considering the cost and they're miles ahead of these cammus brakes.
what a massive design flop, wires in eye sight, no adjustment what so ever and a tiny ass foot plat. this crap set of pedals is a hard pass for me
Completely unwatchable due to the constant 20 second ADs.
Boosted ADs!! It is sad how channels support CZcamss aggressive AD policy.
Constant? There shouldn’t be more than 3 in the whole video? Will check it now. Sorry!
Just checked. There’s one at 5mins, 16mins and 26mins.
Opera.
@@boostedmediato be honest after the opening 30 second AD then a second 20 second Ad soon after, I did forward the video to skip some of the chatter and got hit by another 20 second AD, I gave up at that point. Perhaps I was just unlucky to where I forwarded to. Thanks for the reply.
@@xzanman You do realise that ads are partly how we get to view Boosted Media's content for free? You surely don't expect these guys to work for nothing, do you?
wow, price to performance👍