Dell XPS 17 review: Leaving the MacBook Pro 16 in the dust
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- If you told me you were buying a 17-inch laptop in 2020, I’d call you crazy. There are only a handful of 17-inch laptops available, and with how good 15-inch laptops are, they’re hardly worth your time.
That is, unless you’re talking about the new Dell XPS 17. Unlike most 17-inchers, the XPS 17 is more than just a big screen. It adds performance. Serious performance. The kind even the XPS 15 can’t offer.
I expect a lot out of a laptop that costs nearly $3,000, but with the Nvidia RTX 2060 under the hood and an expansive 17-inch screen, this might be the ultimate content creation workstation. Find out more in my Dell XPS 17 hands on review.
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Bezels, Size, and Design
2:40 - The Screen
3:40 - Battery Life
4:11 - Performance
5:41 - Gaming
6:35 - Content Creation
8:07 - Port Selection
8:55 - Speakers
9:29 - Price
10:03 - Resurgence of the 17-inch laptop?
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I don't understand why 5lbs is spoken about like it's a metric ton. It’s 1 or 2lbs more than your standard laptop. Surely it’s not a Herculean task to walk around with.
..... It really does seem to be the case, Wilson and especially for a lot of emaciated digital nomads, spending most of their lifes creating unboxing videos, or sitting in the corners of cafe houses, always looking for power points to keep their rapidly draining laptops charged during those multi-hour gastronomical sessions, when not travelling the world in currently grounded aircraft. I occasionally suggest a few sheets of paper and a small IKEA pencil as alternatives for these muscle deprived individuals, who order their beverages pre-sweetened, as even the task of adding sugar cubes seems to be an arduous, muscle straining task. And as for MacBooks "still not having" SD card slots. A bit of research will reveal that even other, so called legacy ports, where once part of the MacBook range, before Apple outlined the collective future with all of these ports now apparently being obsolete. So everyone, and finally digest that message, throw away all of your USB-A drives, mice and whatever else was powered by this ancient technology, visit your nearest Apple store and ask for the 'dongle section' credit card or proof of AfterPay membership at hand 😉
It does feel different though - that one extra lb seems to cross the threshold of ultraportability. I have the new xps 15 and it just feels a tad heavy to lug around like you would a 13 inch. Great built quality though and the bezel-less display is gorgeous
I remember my 17 inch dell 9 years ago weighed 13 pounds. 5 is nothing.
60 beats woah nelly! Sounds like you need to cut back on the sugar.
It's one of those thing where you get used to light weight 2-3 lbs ultrabook then dread on the extra 1-2 pound increase with larger size. I used my 13 for 4 years and going back to 15 laptop feel different but not that substantial to me.
Love the video. I just ordered it last week so its nice to hear that you liked it so much.
What are the specifications like RAM, Storage, etc? How about webcam positioning?
I purchased an XPS17 w/ an I7, 64 GB and 1 TB. After 2 weeks, I returned it for a refund. Dell has acknowledged that under heavy load it still consumes battery while plugged in. They claim this was by design and no fix is coming, but that's ridiculous.... when a laptop is plugged in, it should charge... period, no exceptions. Additionally, mine had other charging problems... once unplugged, it would not resume charging without a complete reboot. Some additional intermittent issues with external display (Thunderbolt, and a Dell display too) no detecting. All of that was handled with Dell's standard support (deny and deflect and once they acknowledge an issue, require the buyer to jump through hoops). The specs are spectacular and the physical build quality is as good as prior XPS devices, which is to say, the only Windows device on-par with a MacBook. Too bad they released it with the power shortcoming. Also too bad it comes w/ Dell support... I could not recommend this laptop to anyone.
How much you paid on that setup?
@@fabrizio-6172 $3800
Just canceled my order, thanks for the information.
Damn dude that sucks. I'm having no issues with my 32 GB 8 core version. I'm running 3 live trading platforms , while streaming media on multi ultra-wide displays. I'm constantly unplugging and plugging back into my dell d6000 docking station. I used to see situations like this when I was a corporate cellphone store manager. Sometimes Apple/Samsung (whoever) just have bad units. I opted out of the 4k display since 8k is already breathing down our necks, and the battery life payoff is outstanding! It is still one of the most amazing displays ever! This also took the cost of my unit down to the $2600 range. Also 500 nits is extremely bright. This machine is on another level.
Ethan Eady thanks I was about to cancel order until I saw your comments 🙏
Thanks for the replies. John and Zhong, will Intel be a good play now, or go with Ryzen, AMD on a 17" laptop or a desktop?
Nice review. A chance you'll do a comparison against the Lenovo Legion 7i ?
a 17 inch laptop with an 3k OLED & AMD-chip/RTX-graphic is my dream!
Oled screens suck for color grading etc. Not good.
hopefully next year we may have AMD chips. It will drastically reduce power and heat issues. Also, a vapor chamber in 15inch would be nice
Good to see you Luke! Great review as always.
I love how the time bar had "Screen" "Battery" "Gaming" pretty neat feature in his style review.
I just got it. So far so good. Does anyone know what the 44gb in "Other" Storage is? I haven't downloaded anything or installed anything. I've only had it 9 hours. So what is this mystery that isn't listed in the details of "Other?" Other people discuss similar issues about Windows, but I found no real answers.
0:44 It's not 2 extra inches. It's 1.4 extra inches.
XPS 15 is 15.6 inches, XPS 17 is 17.0.
Ok mr. detail
A trick to save +$800 that not many know is getting the Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10875H - 8 cores, NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 2060 6GB GDDR6 with Max-Q, 32 GB Ram, 1Tb Drive and FHD+ Display for only $2,100.00! if you look for the business laptops instead of "for home" in the Dell Website.
Because of the display, you get a powerful machine with 10 hours of battery.
The 4k and FHD+ screen difference is not noticeable.
Felipe Suarez for any programmer or anyone else who looks at text a lot, 4K makes a massive difference. Day and night.
Felipe Suarez I've checked the business laptops can not find the $2100 one you speack did dell take it down.
Yeah I'm going to have to disagree with you. The difference between 4K and FHD+ is very noticeable.
Luke, good review. Love the 17'', for older people with eye issues, that is a huge plus. Sorry to hear the audio is no better than the 15". Did you have any issues with the keys and touchpad? Some reviewers have had issues. How is the area to rest your hands with the carbon fiber? When will the upgrade to the I9 happen? What are your thoughts on AMD? Thanks, Always great content from Digital Trends.
Mine came with faulty battery, trackpad got loose after a week, speaker start random popping, 4k screen light bleed pretty serious end up returning it. how i would describe the carbon fiber rest pad is soft smooth rubber. People having power issue with the I7 8 core 4k top end so I can't imagine what the I9 issue gonna be.
There won't be an i9. The 8 core i7 replaces the i9.
John Doe how do you know if you have a faulty battery
I have older xps 15 one with bottom bezel and while gaming or doing heavy tasky that bottom bezel become very hot, now with this model without any bezel will heat affect screen badly over time ?
It's the area top of the keyboard that gets super hot. The screen and most areas of keyboard and touchpad are actually very cool
Hi M.E. balbaa - While OLED panels are more sensitive to heat, the LCD panels we use have a higher temperature spec. The majority of the exhausted air will be distributed below the display, but some residual heat will be passed over the bottom of the display. This should not create any issues.
Thanks for the video.. very informative. Do you have any thoughts or comments on the XPS 17 vs. the LG Gram 17? The Gram is so much lighter.. would love to see a smackdown between these two large laptops. Thanks again.. and Thumbs up!!
Hi Wayne - If you're just looking for a larger screen, the LG Gram is a solid choice. The XPS 17 is designed for heavy workloads with Intel's "H" processors and NVIDIA's RTS2060 discrete graphics (90W design) whereas the LG Gram is a "U-based" architecture with integrated graphics (15W design). It's a slim and light product, but it wouldn't win a "fist fight" with the XPS 17.
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou Hi Matt.. thanks very much for your insightful comments. I really appreciate your insights. The light weight of the Gram is very attractive, but the power and style of the XPS is equally compelling. I'll have to really think through my expected use profile. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts. Thumbs up!!
@@dono700 Hi Donnie.. thanks very much for your insightful comments. I really appreciate your insights. The light weight of the Gram is very attractive, but the power and style of the XPS is equally compelling. I'll have to really think through my expected use profile. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts. Thumbs up!!
Great video! Do you recommend waiting for the i9 version before purchasing an XPS 17?
From what I've read there's not going to be very much of a difference going with the i9 over the currently available 8 core i7 10875h. The i9 gets a slightly higher max clock speed, but you're probably not going to sustain that speed very long even with vapor chamber cooling. The 10th gen 10875h meets/beats the 9th gen i9
People are having power issue with the I7 when plug in, can't wait to see what the I9 going to do.
Thanks for the great review. I’d love to hear how much better the batter life is with the lower resolution monitor.
You can pretty much double it... :-)
Absolutely!! Pocket that money and enjoy being freed from the plug for like 10+ hours. This machine is boss!!
@@myrrhsee1 Thanks Ethan... while we have to offer 4K panels to be on par with competition (and for some customers, the resolution is relevant if not desired), I have never been a fan of the higher resolution displays in a notebook. On my 77" TV, of course, but on a 13-inch or even 17-inch NB, the price you pay in battery life (not to mention the dollars) is not worth it to me. Enjoy your day!
Does anyone know if the battery drain issue is a thing for the RTX 2060 with a 1080p screen?
I tried building that combination and wasn't able to do so. I'll stick with my XPS17r SE for a bit longer...
Robert Liptak the only way to get that configuration is through the business website
i dont get why the xps only has rtx 2060s in the westernmost countries while thers only a gtx 1650 option here in asia
I wish they tested the base or mid-range XPS 17 as most of us cannot afford the high-spec versions. I certainly would expect a £3000 to perform as well as the XPS 17 does. I assume you do not get any throttling on battery? No OLED or QLED is a bit disappointing. The battery life seems a bit low even on the 1080p model, I thought Intel was aiming for 10h plus as its new mantra? Also, I would have liked to see a different casing, maybe a white version, I am not keen on the material used on the keyboard (rests). Seems that OEMs are moving away from num pads on 17-inch, which is a shame, though by reducing the footprint it is understandable.
All nick picky but seems a great device and a clever choice as the 15-inch is now just a bit too cramped.
The only reason I would consider the 17 over the 15 is if I can use Windows Snap to split the screen 50/50 when working (I mostly deal with documents all day). Has anyone tried splitting the screen 50/50 on this thing? When split, are documents legible from a lap to eye distance?
It's depend on the scaling and resolution, 16:10 do give you a few extra vertical lines for texts but should work just as well as any window laptop you get the extra large screen for viewing with the 17. If you consider buying this particular laptop, I would wait because there's seem to be a lot of issue with it for $2k+ laptop. I myself returned mine.
I have 5 questions with Dell XPS 17 :
1. Can I use two power bricks to solve the charging problem ?
2. Can I disable the dedicated GPU somehow ?
3. Can I use high refresh external display for gaming ?
4. Can I use e-GPU with it ?
5. Does the battery continue to drain while using e-GPU with an External Display ?
I'd say if you're planning to shell out for an XPS17 as well as an external GPU, just go ahead and get yourself a dedicated gaming laptop.
xps line has always been awesome
Are the review units the only ones that aren’t faulty? Wanted to get this but all the consumer reviews are bad.
I'm just really on the fence about upgrading. I like the smaller form factory of my current XPS 15 (from 2018) but I would really like the performance benefits of the new 17".
Me too!!!!
@@bigterrapin5472 and not a huge fan that the new wifi chips are soldered on
I am building a gaming desktop and this will be a good mobile version of what I will have at home. Except the i/o ports. That will take some testing to see how my camera will tether via a USB hub to the laptop. My cameras all use either USB micro or mini cables for the tether cable. We'll see.
Try one of our Commercial docking stations... there's a standard USB-C variant and a Thunderbolt variant as well. Single cable to plug in and with the TBT dock, you can drive two external 4K displays with ease.
Isnt the intro music from Dave2D ? XD
Yo what’s the name of it? Been looking for it
@@thewhitepug5531 me too.
yep
it's Dave2D's outro music
It's the Dave2D intro music, but he doesn't have intros anymore :(
@@thewhitepug5531 ottom cherry blossom
Great review man, I’m SOLD. It’s not on sale here in Colombia yet but I’m literally waiting with the money in my hand to throw it at DELL when it comes out. Come on DELL... what’s taking so long ffs?!!
Forgot the user-replaceable ram and the 2 SSD slot...
Why is it so hard to beat Apple at a stupid speaker battle? Jesus christ
Because Apple is great at it. Your comment is like your trying to find a way to criticize Apple. They also win in trackpads and build quality and micropjones
@@atwtmvtvftwsgavralps and os
AzeRTy Block no, that’s debatable. What I mentioned is pretty much agreeed on
@@atwtmvtvftwsgavralps who want candy crush to be pre-installed? It is a joke OS
@@karis7539 OSX cant even install candy crush
so is it mini-led or no?
Nope... standard LED display with IGZO technology from Sharp. The UHD+ variant is 100% Adobe RGB minimum. Truly a beautiful display.
Great great laptop except for the ongoing quality issues (trackpad, coil whine) and crazy battery drain when gaming. Simply 130W power supply is the worst design decision with this fantastic product resulting in early battery degradation.
Dude! What coil whine? I have no coil whine and have not heard of anyone having any on the new XPS models (9500/9700). The track pad issue has been addressed by Dell who admitted to the issue and confirmed all forward shipping units would have the issue fixed and previous units can be fixed under warranty or returned. As for gaming off charger - that’s the case with most laptops - even with actual gaming laptops.
@@AMGF815 I don't have the coil whine on my 9700 but it has popped up for some people (search Reddit). As for losing battery while gaming, that's certainly NOT the case with most gaming laptops. However most gaming laptops come with much bigger power bricks, so that's the trade off. This is a creation machine that can game, but is not made to game. It's made for short bursts of heavy load which the charger can handle. Sustained heavy loads like in gaming are just too much for the 130w charger. Now, if Dell would update the BIOS to allow undervolting we could probably solve that...here's hoping.
I seem post about people battery came with the laptop is less than the 97wHr, I think it was round 88 wHr is what some people are getting when it was rated for 95wHr from China BYD factory.
@@JohnDoe-we4nb Hi John... we offer two battery capacities for the XPS 17. A 56Whr battery that is only coupled with the FHD+ resolution. The 97Whr battery can be had on the FHD+ and is the only option on the UHD+ configurations. The XPS 15 employs a 56Whr and an 86Whr battery.
@@AMGF815 Dude this is not just about gaming. I have to render 3d models and this fricking machine gets a huge battery drain, goes from 100% to 15% in 4 hours. I did finish my render but honestly over time battery gets worse and laptop will probably just shut down in the middle of work. This the most horrible design flaw.
The dell precision 5750 offers the same features and can be seriously upgraded. Please compare before you buy.
You seem to base many points of your reviews on your impressions. Ex: the speakers. I believe that, as a professional reviewer, you SHOULD take time, make a search and confirm if they are or not the same speakers as the XPS 15.
Can we drop the phrase “screen real estate” already!
It’s got an amazing display.
I don't get why they build asbestos like material into the part that touches your hand.
What are you talking about?
It's carbon fiber... it serves multiple purposes. It's very strong, yet very light. It's cooler to the touch than a metal palm-rest under load. It looks and feels cool, too! :-)
@@dono700 It's a bit sticky and harder to clean than aluminium palm rest, though. And why doesn't XPS 17 use the same carbon fibre material to cover the speaker grills as well?
I paid $4500 for a precision 5520 a few years ago and it was amazing for the first 6 months and just started falling apart after that in spite of the apparent build quality. I’m hesitant to spend another $3000 on a new laptop if it’s just going to fall apart on me again.
Matt Schwartz MacBooks have serious issues as well, but it’s Apple so they don’t say anything.
Amazing screen. It deserves a much better wallpaper, but most reviewers don’t bother to change that.
The biggest plus for the Dell machine over something like a MacBook Pro 16 is the Dell service packages. For only a couple of hundred more on the price you can get on site next day service which is a no brainer for a pro machine that you rely on to make money. In comparison Apple is hopeless often taking days to return a machine that you have to physically take to an Apple repair centre. Also you get 2 SSD slots unlike the mac with its soldered in SSD that is usually wiped after a visit to the repair centre and cannot be upgraded.
Review for a 🙏 Asus ZenBook 14 Ryzen 4500u mx350🙏
How about the Dell QC? Seems like plenty of these machines have faulty trackpads, dents, speaker issues, etc. I want to like this machine, but I don't want to deal with a Range Rover of a Laptop.
Lmao I feel you, I have one and lucky mine came with none of the problems
Mine Fk up after a week, return it. It seem a lot of problem is from the 4k model.
Hey man,I'm getting a Acer laptop and I want to download some games for free like mortal Kombat 10,11 but I just don't know
I bought the XPS 17(9700) laptop and I had an awful experience. 5 months after buying it I am stuck with a device that does not work. I used MacPro laptops for 8 years now and never had any issues. I decided this year to change for Dell and it was the worst decision that I ever made. Overall an awful experience with the device and tech support from Dell. I will purchase a Mac again.
I’d buy a 15” especially if I’ll be using the laptop at home. Hook it up with a big screen monitor, Bluetooth peripherals, speakers, subwoofer etc. It’ll also be easier to carry it and hold it if I’m in bed or sitting on a couch. Battery life would be better too compared to a 17”.
Checked Dells website , configurations of xps17 is so messed up, you can have powerful processor with no ram and so on. Dell what are you thinking. Its time to introduce 64 ram options...
Well can be upgradeable. I mean it is a bummer but let’s not act like we can’t change the ram in this laptop
with the power management demands and problems with windows and specifically dell laptops (has to be plugged in to get full power, sleep modes suck down battery unnecessarily) , it's still a pass.
Public service announcement - I've dealt with Alienware, but from many forums, I think all Dells are the same - they load up so many "agents" and processes, you will always have a lot of load until you clean that out. And the cooling solutions are always advertised as being so good, yet I struggled for a long time with the very poor heat sink of the Alienware.
One laptop that has surprised me greatly is the Asus StudioBook - the fans NEVER turn above a low speed, even when maxing out the CPU! One of the only other options with a full sized, real 17" screen (16:10). Also has plenty of ports. And almost no bloatware except a McAfee Web Advisor preinstalled.
My understanding is Asus under clock the CPU and GPU to control thermals on that laptop, it means it runs cooler than others but has a performance hit because of it.
We need more 17inc laptops because not everyone runs around with a backpack
Always the operation system the 1st reason to buy a laptop 💻
There are not 2 extra inches of screen between the XPS 15 and the XPS 17. XPS 15 = 15.6 inches, XPS 17 = 17 inches. That is a delta of 1.4 inches.
The 17 is actually 17.3 inches.
@@uchechukwuajalam Im not sure where your data is coming from. But lit pixel to lit pixel corner to corner my XPS 17 9700 UHD+ measures exactly 17.0 inches. My build sheet says 17 inches as well. So you are incorrect it is exactly 17 inches.
Disappointed with Dell QC. This could have been one of the best MacBook Pro 16 alternative.
Half the price, an hp envy 15 2020 with OLED and RTX 2060 max-q and good build quality, although not as good as this one. Hard to justify the price of nearly 3k
Someone please tell mr. Dell to remove the circle on his logo. Thank you.
this is amazing cooool
This actually heavier than LG Gram 17
4.65lb vs 2.98lb.
Can you compare it with LG gram?
how is the laptop leaving apple in the dust. My xps 15 9500 has so much issues, speakers, trackpad and screen has A LOT OF GHOSTING. This laptop is not even comparable. Returning it for a razer blade.
macbooks also have ghosting issues
@@yamito3809 I tried one at the apple store and guess what I don't even notice it. The video on YT I posted about mine is 10x worse in real life then it is on video. I dragged Spotify around the screen and the white letters had about 1inch drag behind them when moving it around on circles. Also Spotify and other applications lag when scrolling thru a list which is ridiculous.
These reviews are seriously bad. While I really like my Dell 7590 and have had very little issues with it, it's in no way shape or form superior to a MacBook. The whole anti Apple hive mentality has been a strong marketing exploit for Dell and this review clearly illustrates that.
Imagine this with ryzen 4800 and a 2080
How 2 inches can make a world of difference ;)
I need a laptop, any laptop.
I want this PC but every review I see have something to say about the speakers and for the price, I do not want to hear none of that nonsense...get it together Dell
Didn't tell what the processor is, nor any performance metrics listed.. :x
Good review otherwise..
Wrong.
We employ Intel's 10th generation "Comet Lake" H processor (45W) in Ci5, Ci7 and soon Ci9 variants. We support Intel integrated graphics on the base model, NVIDIA's GTX1650Ti dGPU with 4GB GDDR6 VRAM or NVIDIA's RTX2060 dGPU with 6GB GDDR6 VRAM. That latter delivers VR level performance - a first in an XPS notebook.
XPS 13 and 15 are having major battery problems. The battery is under the track pad and swells pushing the track pad up causing it to be unusable. I can't find anything on that happening with the XPS 17. But is seems to use the same battery. This swelling is happening about the one year mark. Only solution I can see is get a new battery every 10 months. But Dell is having so many battery issues they are sending out refurbished batteries. Look at the Asus and Lenovo.
Hi David... I've been managing the XPS product line for Dell since 2010...while we did have a battery swelling issue on the first generation of XPS 15, that issue was limited to a single battery supplier and we honored battery replacements (out of warranty) for anyone who experienced it. It was not a safety issue, but was disconcerting. We do not have battery swelling issues on XPS 13 products. And lastly, we don't use "the same" battery on any new products (15 or 17). Feel free to reach out if you have information that says otherwise. Thanks
@@dono700 What is the difference in the batteries?
I own a Dell laptop. My second one. Before buying I looked at over 300 Dell reviews. Never saw a bad Dell review on any Dell until this battery problem. And the comments from a lot of people said they didn't get repairs for this problem. I hope you are right and the problem is fixed but I can't buy an XPS and I was looking at them as I can't run the risk having a serious problem with a laptop that I would spend 2k on.
@@dono700 Since I am talking to an expert let me ask you about the motherboard replacements I have seen some XPS users talk about. What is the issue with the motherboard? These people did say they had no problem getting Dell to replace those defective motherboards.
@@NewOrleansSeptember Thanks David... there are always going to be negative reviews. That's simply a reality for all products and when customers have a bad experience, we welcome that feedback. It enables us to continually improve our products and the customer experience. We stand behind out products and when customers have issues, our goal is to resolve those issues to the customer's satisfaction. I can confirm that Dell's policy on the battery swelling issue we saw on our first-generation XPS 15 was to resolve it regardless of warranty coverage.
@@NewOrleansSeptember That's a pretty general question, David. Every OEM replaces motherboards everyday. There are literally thousands of components and functions on each motherboard, so replacing a motherboard is a pretty common thing (for any OEM). Dell ships millions of products every month, so while you can find instances where products fail, there are millions of products that don't. What I can assure you is this - we stand behind our products and our warranty is there for our customer's peace of mind. If someone has an issue, we are obligated and compelled to address that issue to the customer's satisfaction. Things will inevitably break, it's our commitment to fix them.
Good Review as always👍(•‿•)
I am looking for laptop around 700 dollars any suggestions
We need to talk about DPC latency.
Martin have you found anything out...I can’t find a single decent review re daw use!...Please let me know if you do. I will do the same....but at the moment................nothing!
@@tonyodoherty6241 I've been trying and nothing so far. Reddit is your best bet, keep checking DAW forums, audio producers that kind of thing -- I'm keeping an eye out. I really can't commit to buying one of these until I know it won't stutter like hell with a few VSTs in Reaper :)
I got one and returned it just after 4 hours of use. I recently uploaded a short benchmark and quality issue video if you are interested. I won't buy a Dell again. 2nd time I got disappointed by this brand.
Which one did you buy after the return
and still 10th gen Intels are pretty bad, not even to mention the Nvidia GPU options....
Sure they have awesome battery runtime for its aviable performance, but in the end the prices are pretty high for such a "small" beast if we can call them a beast at all. Even my 2080 Max-P with 150W TDP is some sort of "too slow" for me.
I got for nearly half the price of a fully upgraded 17" XPS a little bit bigger HP Omen 17, but with RTX 2080 Max-P and Gsync 144Hz screen, the actual Omen 17 got already 240Hz screens for again a very fair price. Their cooling solutions are also pretty decent, and they are pretty small compared to other 2080 (150W+) notebooks. The only big disadvantages of them are poor battery runtime and in overall a pretty fragile design, but i dont have much experience with typical notebooks and am mainly used to very robust MacBook Pro cases. Since i mainly use it as "Desktop" on the TV and to be portable and sometimes on the internal screen, this "cheap" HP Omen is perfect for me and i dont care about battery usage at all, doesnt perform well anyways on battery and however every game is capped at 30 fps on battery.
I love this laptop. I have no issue with the touchpad!
Best laptop of 2020: xps 17.
I also want one of these 😑
XPS 13 and 15 are having major battery problems. The battery is under the track pad and swells pushing the track pad up causing it to be unusable. I can't find anything on that happening with the XPS 17. But is seems to use the same battery. This swelling is happening about the one year mark. Only solution I can see is get a new battery every 10 months. But Dell is having so many battery issues they are sending out refurbished batteries. Look at the Asus and Lenovo.
@@NewOrleansSeptember Hi David... while we did have a battery swelling issue on the first generation of XPS 15, that issue was limited to a single battery supplier and we honored battery replacements (out of warranty) for anyone who experienced it. It was not a safety issue, but was disconcerting. We do not have battery swelling issues on XPS 13. And lastly, we don't use "the same" battery on any new products (15 or 17). Feel free to reach out if you have information that says otherwise. Thanks
@@NewOrleansSeptember "major" isn't the right word for it. And your point becomes irrelevant since you are talking about the older model xps laptops, which use different batteries than the new ones.
@@vivek_v Then why don't you point this out since you are touting yourself as an expert. And the 2020 models haven't been out long enough to know if there is a problem. It took a year for the original battery problem to become known. So what is the difference in the "new" battery?
@@dono700 What is the difference in the batteries?
I own a Dell laptop. My second one. Before buying I looked at over 300 Dell reviews. Never saw a bad Dell review on any Dell until this battery problem. And the comments from a lot of people said they didn't get repairs for this problem. I hope you are right and the problem is fixed but I can't buy an XPS and I was looking at them as I can't run the risk having a serious problem with a laptop that I would spend 2k on.
And since I am talking to an expert let me ask you about the motherboard replacements I have seen some XPS users talk about. What is the issue with the motherboard? These people did say they had no problem getting Dell to replace those defective motherboards.
A 17 inch laptop without USB port kinda bad, they should have put 1 there and stop making them so thin.
For 2D/3D animation, It's Delta e is still bad. And RTX 2060 is not enough. I need a RTX 2080 or RTX 2070 super and up!
Try out our Alienware products or the 7000 series Precision mobile workstations...
Then dont take a laptop!
I still don't get people who want to buy a laptop for gaming. Laptop has never meant to be a gaming machine and it is over priced to be built for gaming. Get a custom build desktop and you will be happy forever.
IF YOU USE HULU OR NETFLIX DO NOT BUY THIS LAPTOP. They screwed up surround sound and you can only hear the rear channels. They do not consider this an issue and will not fix it. Also it is hard to open, can not get leverage on top to open it, should have had a notch. Also USBA/HDMI dongle is useless, get an inline USBC to USBA converter. Obviously I own this computer.
Which laptop
+OLED
+Macbook Pro comparable sound
= God tier laptop?
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou miniLED im still not convinced of. oled oled oled
@@aaronao1 Check out MSI, they had a creator laptop with miniled that thing hit 1000 nits.
I bought an XPS 17. I went for the creator's edition base model from the Home products side of the Dell website. It still cost me 3200 Canadian dollars. I got a better fit for my environment (I'm all Dell for new laptops) I wanted the 17" screen and a mid-level graphics card for basic video editing. It's interesting that the XPS 17 on the business side are higher-end models that are above on the home side. But I can't justify $CDN5000 for a laptop I am not using to earn money with. Don't forget to engage Dell chat when you are purchasing you can often get extended three-year warranties for a discount or free depending on who you end up talking to.
Thanks for calling this out P. Wingert... I've asked our online team to get this fixed. We should have all configurations on the Consumer (for Home) page.
Actually the smallest 17 inch laptop is LG gram 17
Lightest, not smallest.
Also the screen is very Meh for gaming i have the 9500 and the response time is not fantastic.
If you want a gaming laptop, get a gaming laptop. Compared to the MBP16 - this screen is king.
@@AMGF815 hahaha that's funny, you mean a movable desktop?
Hi trinin967... Admittedly, we do not design XPS products for gaming... our sister brand (Alienware) is the right tool for that job. We focus on content creation and consumption with XPS. Features like color gamut, brightness and contrast ratio are the focus areas for these panels. Thanks for your business!
Ming Yang Lu I’ve owned both. Have you even used both?
@@dono700
That's interesting, you work for dell?
I have so many questions, you probably can't answer. Maybe you can answer this, why don't you release a white model of the 15 or 17, similar to the 13 inch xps?
XPS 17 would have been so great if the product actually worked
Why not xps Nvidia Rtx 5000 😭
Because they have it in the Dell Precision laptops which is the business version of the XPS 17. I think they even go up to a rtx 8000 but Ik they definitely have a 5000.
Dang it. Speakers... They always make crappy speakers. How hard is it to make speakers that is as good as MacBook? Isn't it because Dell doesn't care?
Dust? Performance wise, they are close. Plus, when XPS is unplugged, its performance takes a hit. Mac’s resolution is smarter. I say it is neck to neck.
ye but what about the price?
Windows10's resolution is a mess
Resolution smarter? Lol you sound like a butt hurt apple gan boy. Take the Loss
XPS 17 is better then mackrook 16
@@LinuxAndroid86 More like XPS has a higher resolution display that Windows sucks at handling compared to MacOS, which gives it an edge in terms of image quality but the opposite for the usability.
I'll never understand why people waste their money on shitty and restricted apple products anyway
Damn expensive
Price a comparably configured MacBook Pro 16 :-)
Come on man why this title , what dust... many people that use macbooks using them not only for looks and specs but main reason is MACOS and not crapy windows.... so what thin bezels dont make beter laptop... 2021 and so no one will beat new macbooks with arm cpu , new mini-led rounded display and etc
This guy has done zero testing on the laptop.. Most of what he said is either completely false or an extract of that other youtubers have said
You don't do your homework. The razer pro is way better with better graphics card. Also the Dell precision 17 makes this look like an amateur. The screen is not the best. You must have not tested a lot of laptops. I can think of a few that are better. This laptop is meh also considering the price you can get better. The 2060 is also weak in comparison with other 17 inch models. Good greif.
None other 17 inch laptops are as attractive and compact.
@@TheThingKing the razer pro, plus it has a stronger graphics card and a little cheaper when maxed out.
I don't recommend this laptop, the trackpad is terrible and wobbly, battery life very average for the price, 5 hours for 2k laptop. Display even though very good compared to other PC but still the 16 inch MacBook Pro have better colors. gaming will suffer bc of the 4k+ screen, its better to game with 1080 FHD. that's why I chose MacBook pro 16 instead, much better tracked, battery life with 9+ hours and the screen more colorful and beautiful. that's my humble opinion, I could be totally wrong but I want to spare you the time waste and disappointment
did you try them side by side?
I have macbook pro 16 and thinking about XPS 17. But there is nowhere near shop where I could see live XPS 17.
I’m glad Dell continues to update and improve the XPS line. The XPS 17 seems wonderful, but I’m saving up for the MacBook Pro 16, personally. The reason is because the XPS 17 loses 40%-60% of its performance when unplugged. That really limits the portability and capabilities. I’m going to get a certified refurbished MBP to help offset the cost of the Apple tax. Lol.
Unpopular opinion... Longer hair for the win
this guy sound like the airsoft toronoto guy
Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!$3,000
2019 vs 2020
Dell should stop shilling for Intel and put Ryzen in their xps line instead.
You realize that they have a contract with intel right. Plus they are not giving up on thunderbolt until usb-4 becomes an option.
@@emperorcyber509 That's a myth... Dell works with Intel and AMD.
Every other reviewer: "It has a 7 hour battery life, maybe 8"
This clown: *4 hours*
Lmfao
I noticed that also.
Hi, I’ve been checking on Dell’s issue with DPC latency. It has been awful in past models. There are many....many musicians waiting to find just one review re how many tracks the new Dells will be able to run without clicks and pops. When this subject is touched upon (and its v rare!) is a quick shot of a single track usually in a video context. This is totally useless for a musician working with VST instruments in a music DAW. It appears no one has a cheap (or even free) piece of music recording software...(Cubasis..Logic..Ableton.) a basic audio interface with which to test systems out. I’m absolutely positive there are hundreds....(thousands really) of musicians searching the web for just one solid report on how Dell’s new laptops function re real time latency within a music DAW! There is one review that mentions this on you tube...BUT running one track is’t the problem.....if he had simply copied and pasted that track 10/30 times and then showed that it works....his viewing figures and Dell’s would soar!
Any hope?
Sorry don’t know anything re mac books.....but am thinking it’s the only safe way to go......
The XPS17 is not the most expensive XPS ever made.. It is on par with past XPSs. The XPS M1710 spec out was close to 4000 and the XPS M1730 spec out was around 4200.. Do your research
See how he's exaggerating simple pointless arguments on why the battery might be bad or how it's too heavy or how it perform "the same" as the 15' model?
He's speaking out of his ass - probably hasn't done a single minute of testing. Look at how much time he dedicates to the design portion. this review is completely useless
17 inch laptop without a full keyboard... wtf dell.
Really small chassis
99.9% of customers don't use a num pad and prefer a centered keyboard.
@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou Interesting option on the number pad I never thought of.
Is it worth it tho. The cost 🤑
3k for a laptop.. when half the population is barely making ends meet. I don't even know why you're reviewing this
For the other half?
Why are you here then?
It's mainly meant for people who make money using their laptop, for them 3K for this kind of performance and portability is a good deal.