Dell Has Destroyed the XPS - Dell XPS 16 (2024)

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
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    Dell... what's going on, bud? Alex usually begs me to cover XPS laptops, but lately, he's felt like the XPS lineup has lost its way. With rising price tags, middling entry specs, and questionable design changes, has Dell destroyed the XPS?
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    0:00 The XPS 16 is... different
    0:21 Unboxing and weight
    2:37 Ports
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    4:37 Display impression and LABS test results
    6:52 Keyboard and trackpad impressions
    9:35 Specs
    10:49 LABS performance test results and gaming impressions
    12:38 Speaker impressions
    14:15 Webcam impressions
    14:51 Teardown and LABS battery test results
    16:59 Pricing and overall thoughts
    18:25 Outro
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  • @SalemTechsperts
    @SalemTechsperts Před 14 dny +1947

    It's become a meme at this point that companies adopt the worst part of Apple's products instead of borrowing from the very few GOOD parts (modular USB-C, amazing hinges). I would love to know who ultimately makes these decisions.

    • @Deses
      @Deses Před 14 dny +296

      These decisions weren't made by the greatest technician that's ever lived.

    • @cosminmilitaru9920
      @cosminmilitaru9920 Před 14 dny +19

      cheers bro! awesome channel!

    • @supersammy149
      @supersammy149 Před 14 dny +17

      Yeah, you're not wrong. I think their just trying out stuff that made Apple somewhat successful with their line of products, and just cheaping it out a whole bunch just in case if people don't like it, then they won't be wasting too much money. Great channel man, keep it up!

    • @Kyle_116
      @Kyle_116 Před 14 dny +11

      To be fair, something like hinges would be a patented design nobody else can use.

    • @jasperdesamparado6707
      @jasperdesamparado6707 Před 13 dny +18

      The greatest technician that's ever lived

  • @adamprestidge4775
    @adamprestidge4775 Před 14 dny +1128

    Dell: We make Apples bad decisions but 10 years after.

    • @laeven_
      @laeven_ Před 14 dny +34

      That's some insane latency

    • @CricketEngland
      @CricketEngland Před 14 dny +1

      At lease it comes with decent specs as basic unlike Apple

    • @amitkulkarni3922
      @amitkulkarni3922 Před 14 dny +29

      @@CricketEngland Apple now uses efficient arm chips in their laptops so spec-wise they're quite good. Dell uses Intel chips and has a significantly lower TDP compared to other comparable Windows laptops.

    • @CricketEngland
      @CricketEngland Před 14 dny +12

      @@amitkulkarni3922 still only comes with 8GB ram and in most cases 256 SSD as standard and the charge you £200/$200 to upgrade each to decent levels

    • @mavrickfaust2751
      @mavrickfaust2751 Před 14 dny +3

      @@CricketEngland the ram on Macs feel like more than its is because of how efficient m2 is. Storage if you more, 200 bucks an upgrade is rape. luckily I don't need it.

  • @arijitsanyal6298
    @arijitsanyal6298 Před 14 dny +879

    Dell is the definition of not learning from the mistakes of others. Why would you put controversial button layout (or lack thereof) in your laptops after the community has literally proven that its bad? I don't get them, also it weighs as much as a gaming laptop now without being able to game like one in the same price bracket.

    • @jsVfPe3
      @jsVfPe3 Před 14 dny +30

      Yeah the G16 is such an obviously superior choice for the same price.

    • @nerddeku9675
      @nerddeku9675 Před 13 dny +8

      Exactly, for example I always loved the extremely thin 4k screen, now they ruined everything else, literally getting a galaxy book 4 ultra is much cheaper and apart from the screen resolution it wins in everything, I really hope that in 2025 they solve it all these problems then maybe I'll finally buy one.

    • @vxer
      @vxer Před 13 dny

      The keyboard layout seems fine to me. Idk what you on about saying it was proven bad. Layout is a preference.

    • @matthewjbauer1990
      @matthewjbauer1990 Před 12 dny +3

      Yeah. If Dell is gonna give us a touch function row, make it a screen that we can customize or something like a Stream Deck's buttons instead of just static capacitive touch buttons to replace functions to cram in functions on the top row. What a shame. Also, USB-C/Thunderbolt and dedicating one for charging (plus a dongle) is insane in 2024 considering that Dell has a 90w barrel jack AC adapter small enough to fit that chassis.

    • @jothain
      @jothain Před 8 dny +1

      @@vxer It sucks. You're likely the only one in addition to designer of that who likes it

  • @magicmanchloe
    @magicmanchloe Před 14 dny +740

    7:57 if Apple realized how bad the touch bar was and rolled it back. You would think Dell would think twice before making a knock off of it?

    • @Noah-Lach
      @Noah-Lach Před 14 dny +149

      Not just a knockoff, but a knockoff that keeps all the worst aspects while removing every positive feature of the Touch Bar, as well.

    • @MrPruske
      @MrPruske Před 14 dny +3

      They've been using touch bar stuff for so long lol

    • @watercannonscollaboration2281
      @watercannonscollaboration2281 Před 14 dny +20

      Lenovo tried a touch bar on the 2nd gen X1 Carbon and ditched it after 1 generation. You’d think that Dell would sacrifice some thermals for giving us a function row

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 Před 14 dny +19

      The worst part is. They never implement touch bars as an addition, it always replaces something. The touch bar would be useful if it was in addition to a function row, but it replaces the function row which is much more useful.

    • @djp_video
      @djp_video Před 14 dny +6

      The sad part about it is that Dell already went down the touchbar route with the Studio XPS 16 back in 2010. It was horrible! And they removed it on the replacement model. Obviously they didn't learn anything from that.

  • @delta_cosmic
    @delta_cosmic Před 14 dny +1012

    Literally the XPS are trying to hard to be like a macbook before 2021. Design over functionality comes at a huge cost.

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 Před 14 dny +50

      honestly Dell are on a huge loss strike right now, Apple are fixing their mistakes and are using much more efficient chips, Asus is slimming down their G14 and G16 and making them very portable, Lenovo is starting to use top end components for their Yoga pro 9i 14" and 16", and even HP joined in with the Transcend 14, even Razer blades are better value and more usable than the XPS as this point

    • @bigbubba0439
      @bigbubba0439 Před 14 dny +14

      The MacBooks still put design over functionality. My M1 MacBook Air throttles whenever it has to do anything with the performance cores

    • @brontiago
      @brontiago Před 14 dny +12

      That doesn’t really describe the Apple Silicon Macbooks though. They’re the best all around laptops right now

    • @slavb0i646
      @slavb0i646 Před 14 dny

      @@bigbubba0439 thats a macbook air, what do you expect from a super slim nice looking machine, but not functionally good?

    • @aussiegruber86
      @aussiegruber86 Před 14 dny +3

      I owned a MacBook Pro and it was junk

  • @DeviateDefi4nt
    @DeviateDefi4nt Před 14 dny +286

    Dell absolutely lost their mind with that keyboard layout. As a programmer reliant on consistent touch-typing, there's zero chance I could buy this.

    • @ticler
      @ticler Před 13 dny +31

      Not only will I not buy it, I will actively ignore any opinion of a programmer if I see them using it.

    • @kennyjoseph4875
      @kennyjoseph4875 Před 13 dny +4

      As a programmer who prefers Linux, I went with the Lenovo Z16 gen 2 and have zero regrets. It's literally half the price after coupons and discounts and a lot less stupid.

    • @neil_surya
      @neil_surya Před 12 dny

      @@kennyjoseph4875 I dunno if this is a hot take or not but all the Lenovo laptops I've used seem to have the best keyboards and they're a beauty to code on.

    • @CortyCze
      @CortyCze Před 12 dny +6

      As a programmer XPS line isn't for you. Latitude/Precision is more suitable

    • @kennyjoseph4875
      @kennyjoseph4875 Před 12 dny +3

      @@CortyCze I might agree with you if they had sensible configurations. A big requirement for me is 64 GB of RAM. The only options are the Precision 5680/90 with 1980x1200 res (!) and RTX Ada GPUs (which I don't want or need) and start at over $4k.

  • @SqueamishKeemish
    @SqueamishKeemish Před 14 dny +76

    The amount of times he swore when he realized he didn’t hit the escape key should just tell anyone, especially programmers, to stay the hell away from this device. Especially with a $1,900 starting price holy crap…

  • @BlackMercy-it1jp
    @BlackMercy-it1jp Před 14 dny +267

    It looks like I'll be replacing my 2019 XPS 17 with a Zephyrus G16 this year. Seriously Dell needs to rehire those engineers who designed their 2019 - 2020 xps laptops

    • @cldpt
      @cldpt Před 14 dny +7

      I have an odd solution for you which you'll probably feel "wtf is this guy saying MSI?" but then realize it's actually pretty sensible: the Z16HX and Z17HX are actually very good stuff for prosummers who still want dedicated graphics. And yeah, MSI sucks on their gaming laptops but they have seriously nailed it with the Z/Creator series. Their only real problem is inverting the motherboard. Even not having OLED isn't a problem because the display is pretty good too. And everything is replace/upgradeable, from wifi to ram to ssd. And it does have 2x m.2 slots

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 Před 14 dny +14

      The new G16 is surprisingly light and portable for the screen size, not to mention much more powerful with the higher wattage, and it can run efficiently now with the new intel chips and Type C charging ports, oh and that reminds me of the much better port selection and higher refresh rate screen, absolutely no reason to get the XPS. If you care about the marginally better battery life go for the Macbooks, they beat everything in terms of battery anyways.

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 Před 14 dny +3

      @@cldpt I didn't even know the MSI existed, none of the big reviewers tried it

    • @RobloxianX
      @RobloxianX Před 14 dny +8

      I don't see what's wrong with getting a 2023 Dell XPS 17, it's 1000 USD off on Dell's website and it still comes with an i9-13900H, an RTX 4080, 64GB of RAM, 2 4TB SSD's, and a 4K touchscreen

    • @Cy12237
      @Cy12237 Před 14 dny +1

      The new Zephyrus gave up some performance for form but they still retained enough performance to be a useable great laptop. No idea what Dell was doing with this

  • @stephan3694
    @stephan3694 Před 14 dny +113

    I wish you guys included Alex's reaction when he heard the blown speakers for the first time after saying 10watts. I bet it was priceless😂

    • @lndnfsu2
      @lndnfsu2 Před 14 dny +8

      hope there is on floatplane

  • @jorismak
    @jorismak Před 14 dny +285

    OMG.. no function row and physical escape key was the reason to ditch macbooks for a long period. And when the 13plus came out everyone was like "why would you follow that" and they kept it ?!?

    • @MrKentoNion
      @MrKentoNion Před 14 dny +32

      This even worse than what apple had. Apple at least had some shiny pretty dumb useless bauble, dell's one not even looks interesting, just pure dumb

    • @falsemcnuggethope
      @falsemcnuggethope Před 14 dny

      It's also the reason to not get a chromebook for anything (even if you can run other OS on it)

    • @xpforevergaming8609
      @xpforevergaming8609 Před 14 dny +9

      At least Apple kept the esc key physical.

    • @MrKentoNion
      @MrKentoNion Před 14 dny +4

      @@xpforevergaming8609 na, at first gen esc was inside the touch bar, then on second gen they separated esc out of it

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak Před 14 dny

      @@xpforevergaming8609 no they didnt''.. not on the macbook pro 13" models I used (2016, 2017). I had to kill the 'touchbar service' to disable the whole thing to keep it from doing weird things in terminals and editors if I accidentally touched it, and had to remap my capslock to be an escape key.

  • @doctahp123
    @doctahp123 Před 14 dny +30

    So you're telling me, that you can get a (albeit slightly power limited) 2024 4090 Zephrys G16 with a 240hz oled panel, ultra 9 processor, and usable IO for give or take $100 dollars from this model? And before you say it isn't a gaming laptop, it is literally heavier than the G16.
    Dell, what in the actual hell are you thinking.

  • @pierreollivier1
    @pierreollivier1 Před 14 dny +61

    As a programmer the no Esc key is a deal breaker, it's one of the key that I use the most and I won't go with a laptop that's made for professional that somehow didn't think it was necessary for professionals to have an Esc key. Ridiculous

    • @lejoshmont2093
      @lejoshmont2093 Před 13 dny +1

      You haven't swapped esc and caps lock yet? Must not be a vim user. This laptop is not made for professionals go look at dells precision line for that they no longer copy the xps design for obvious reasons.

    • @pierreollivier1
      @pierreollivier1 Před 13 dny

      @@lejoshmont2093 I remap caps lock to ctrl, and I use C- to move in insert mode. I don't use a lot of vim, but Helix instead but yeah, for anyone addicted to modal editing no esc key is criminal anyway.

    • @DominikJaniec
      @DominikJaniec Před 11 dny

      @@lejoshmont2093 I'm VI-ish user, and I have dash (-) at "standard" Caps Lock position... having `Esc` on the "home-row" feels strange ;) I hit escape to break current flow, and it should be easily located and identified, thus top-left corner is the best for `Esc` key.

    • @giantswing3175
      @giantswing3175 Před 9 dny

      ​@@DominikJaniec nah, caps lock for escape key is top tier

  • @istafaniazi3533
    @istafaniazi3533 Před 14 dny +845

    Ah yes an xps in this economy

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Před 14 dny +76

      Or an XPS that costs more than a comparable Razer Blade 14 and is less upgradable and repairable? Seriously, Dell deserves to have these 2024 XPS laptops flop. Maybe they'll realize they made a true worst laptop ever?

    • @jani0077
      @jani0077 Před 14 dny +88

      @@cameronbosch1213 the high-end XPS's easily trumps Apple in unrepairability, and that's something.

    • @GHOSTSTARSCREAM
      @GHOSTSTARSCREAM Před 14 dny +6

      Wdum, are you telling me that you don't want the extra Xperiance Point Score?

    • @mikejames6588
      @mikejames6588 Před 14 dny +3

      Poor

    • @bakaata
      @bakaata Před 14 dny +3

      talk for urself my bags heavy and I be getting xps' on the monthly

  • @Luke-ko4qo
    @Luke-ko4qo Před 14 dny +57

    14:51 I thought he said 85 screws instead of 8 t5 screws and my jaw dropped😂

    • @BSGSV
      @BSGSV Před 14 dny +10

      Don't give Dell any ideas.

    • @froggymicb
      @froggymicb Před 13 dny +2

      I believed 85 after changing keyboards on their latitude 2 in 1s

    • @MrDivinePotato
      @MrDivinePotato Před 12 dny +1

      SAME

    • @giddycadet
      @giddycadet Před 3 dny

      i thought it was a joke and that's why he was enunciating it so strangely lol

  • @Xiph1980
    @Xiph1980 Před 14 dny +40

    Wait, what?? At the beginning you hinted at a far too expensive price, so ups and downs during the review, I figured at the end they'd be asking 1500-2000 for it. Which I thought would be grossly overpriced for that toy. I did not expect a 3k+ price! Man, what were they thinking?

  • @harsh5424-wastaken
    @harsh5424-wastaken Před 14 dny +58

    Okay, educate me here. It's a "touch bar"... where the buttons stay the same all the time? At least I can understand why Apple went with it for Mac books as they are actual screens that change depending on what the user is doing, but this does not look like it? Am I missing something or is this a colossally bad choice on Dell's part?

    • @Cyba_IT
      @Cyba_IT Před 13 dny +6

      colossally bad choice

    • @sungholee8791
      @sungholee8791 Před 13 dny +4

      It’s so funny to me that we’ve all seen how Apple had to bring physical escape key back yet Dell still hasn’t gotten the message from that

    • @DominikJaniec
      @DominikJaniec Před 11 dny +5

      well, static touch multimedia buttons were "fancy" on laptops like 20/15 years ago...

  • @tiltedbybox6118
    @tiltedbybox6118 Před 14 dny +38

    18:05 "makes a macbook pro seem reasonably priced" That's how I've seen XPS since forever, lol. Besides the design, there's literally nothing good about this lineup. Any gaming laptop will get the same job done, at half the price and better performance.

    • @kombatres
      @kombatres Před 14 dny +13

      Never thought I'd do this, but I was looking for a quality work laptop, and in the past I used to buy XPS... this time I bought a macbook pro because it was cheaper AND better ... what the hell is going on?

    • @rishi0299
      @rishi0299 Před 13 dny +1

      I mean even the design is kinda aging with the minimalist and boring look. If it retained the carbon fibre inside, that would've given it some points for looks.

    • @General_M
      @General_M Před 13 dny +2

      @@kombatres Apple Silicon and Jony Ive pissing off is what’s going on.

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad Před 13 dny +1

      ​@@rishi0299 I like the design but it has to be functional, and this sacrifices functionality for looks at every corner.

  • @devonward6784
    @devonward6784 Před 14 dny +49

    I really hate that you have to pay more money for a worse screen than the xps 14 and to get the oled screen it’s like 2800. In 2024 you get 1080 screens at $2000+

    • @TheYearOfJerome
      @TheYearOfJerome Před 13 dny +3

      you mean the $650 MBA M1 has better screen? 🥶

    • @devonward6784
      @devonward6784 Před 13 dny +3

      @@TheYearOfJerome I mean a lot of things have a better screen lol bar is kinda low

    • @olsirmonkey
      @olsirmonkey Před 12 dny

      @@devonward6784 yeah but for a lot of laptops these days it seems like you either get decent performance, a nice display, or an ergonomic/nice looking design, but never all three. in fact the only laptops i've considered buying recently under 2 grand are neither, just mid in all three.

  • @lucianoag999
    @lucianoag999 Před 14 dny +24

    I have worked with and researched carbon fiber for 15 years. I love it. I also love laptops but they do not belong together. Carbon fiber is a horrible heat conductor and you cannot exploit its specific stiffness in such small thicknesses.

    • @kaalihan1383
      @kaalihan1383 Před 13 dny +2

      Yeah when Alex said that I was like „what?! No it isn’t!“ but the problem isn’t just the heat it’s also receiving and transmitting data. Carbon fiber is really good at intercepting that.

  • @Yellowredstone
    @Yellowredstone Před 14 dny +21

    Framework 16" is expensive, but for a reason. This thing is more expensive than said Framework laptop, for no reason at all.

    • @lejoshmont2093
      @lejoshmont2093 Před 13 dny +4

      compared to this it isn't expensive. It is likely it will be my next laptop at the rate dell is going. I just hope they eventually get NVIDIA gpu modules for those cuda cores.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 Před 22 hodinami

      @@lejoshmont2093 Heck, it HAS RAM slots. Dell literally made CAMM2, and then of course didn't use it here. What a P.O.S.
      I literally have been using the Framework Laptop 16 since mine came, and I love it.

    • @lejoshmont2093
      @lejoshmont2093 Před 14 hodinami

      @@cameronbosch1213 I am glad to hear another good review.

  • @b127_1
    @b127_1 Před 14 dny +64

    By the way: what's up with the proprietary 130w charger. Even Apple is using a normal usb pd 140w brick by now. I get that Dell engineered thier 130w proprietary brick when usb pd went up to 100w, but they went through the effort to redesign the entire laptop, why does it still have this old bs charging brick???

    • @Lonewolf_121
      @Lonewolf_121 Před 14 dny +6

      Proprietary? It's usb c... Yeah they have a big ugky brick with their name on it but it's just usb c, you can use any usb adapter you want with the laptop, nothing special or locked down about it?

    • @b127_1
      @b127_1 Před 14 dny +50

      @@Lonewolf_121 No. You cannot. If you want maximum performance, you need Dell's stupid 130w brick. Any other charger will work for charging, but the cpu and gpu be way slower.
      The same applies to docks by the way: unless it specifically supports the Dell 130w charger, it will not allow more than 100w. Even a 140w compatible dock will not work.
      The reason for this is fairly simple: usb pd 100w is 20v 5a. pd 140w is 28v at 5a. Dell engineered 130w as 20v and 6.5a, making sure that no dock, cable or brick made by anyone else will be able to power this laptop at full load.

    • @fVNzO
      @fVNzO Před 14 dny +4

      ​@@b127_1 The fix is simple. Dell is very happy to sell you their own dock which you'll need if you plan on using the laptop for desktop like workloads. They're corporate first and consumer second. Have always been i feel.

    • @marcgtsr
      @marcgtsr Před 13 dny +2

      Simple fix, dont buy dell

    • @varno
      @varno Před 9 dny

      They have a preference for lower voltages at higher current in their chargers, the laptop will charge at 100W from a standard USB-C charger, but it doesn't support PD 3.1 yet, sadly. My current work dell has a 165W charger, but will only charge at 140W from a standard charger. the proprietary charger is at least OK though, and 100W charging is at least usable most of the time.

  • @rgp1989
    @rgp1989 Před 14 dny +24

    Can't believe they dropped the ball so hard, literally not one thing about this laptop appeals to me. I don't think it even looks that nice, its like a toy

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 Před 14 dny +79

    Not first, not last, but Dell made three laptops this year that I wouldnt even take for free: The XPS lineup.

    • @tiltedbybox6118
      @tiltedbybox6118 Před 14 dny +23

      I'd definitely take it for free and sell it, even at half the price, lol.

    • @dannynation8461
      @dannynation8461 Před 14 dny +2

      Ya but what if someone gave it to u and said you can't sell it, your not allowed to.. then what? Lol

    • @tomimar2001
      @tomimar2001 Před 14 dny +2

      @@dannynation8461 they are fantastic machines even with the stupid capacitive buttons, don't be dense

    • @mastroitek
      @mastroitek Před 14 dny +4

      @@tomimar2001 as an XPS 13 (2021) owner, I regret my purchase, I knew I was not getting the best hardware for the price, but I was not expecting driver issues, wake-up from sleep bugs, hard to open with one hand, and they even locked intel XTU so you can't even undervolt the cpu.
      On the bright side, build is great and feels amzing in your hands, screen looks really good and matte coating is of good quality, I love the keyboard and that carbon fibre feels nice and cosy on my hands/wrists, not that this fixes the other problems though...
      I should also note that since the bios update of 2 months ago my battery lasts 5-6h at best when before it was more like 6-7h

    • @CricketEngland
      @CricketEngland Před 14 dny +2

      I have the XPS 13 pro from 2018 and for what I do (I don’t game) it’s still as good in 2024 as it was out of the box when I got it

  • @TheJamesJingYi
    @TheJamesJingYi Před 14 dny +12

    At work all the developers have had XPS 15s for years because they were ‘the best’, and they really were. Maybe value wise you could get better, but in terms of an overall package, they were worth the money.
    Two ‘test’ XPS 13 pluses were bought. One user literally has to have a mouse because they can’t get on with the touchpad at all. Both had audio issues for months until an update. Then Dell drops these new models, with the price increase, and now we’re switching completely to Lenovo. It’s cheaper to replace all the laptops and the Dell Thunderbolt docks if they don’t work, than just buying new XPSes. It’s just crazy.
    As the resident Mac user, I was in disbelief when I saw the touch buttons - Apple literally reversed course on the Touch Bar because people didn’t like non-physical buttons, and at least they ‘gave’ us back the physical escape key, and then the rest of them. It was crazy that my M3 Max MBP looked ‘good value’ compared to the new XPS line!

    • @SenselInc
      @SenselInc Před 14 dny

      FYI, Sensel (that's us) are one of the new haptic touchpad suppliers on the XPS 14 and 16. The supplier on the XPS 13 Plus was another company, and ours are much better and don't use piezos. That's why Dell added us in to the fold for their latest designs. So please don't let your bad experience on the 13 Plus sour your opinion of the 14 or 16. Give us a chance. =)

    • @lejoshmont2093
      @lejoshmont2093 Před 13 dny

      If you don't need x64 architecture or an NVIDIA gpu I think you made a good decision with mpb and I'm not particularity an apple fan.

  • @tomshariat4167
    @tomshariat4167 Před 14 dny +13

    I work at Best buy and I saw the new Dell XPS the day they came out on our displays, you should have seen me, I was devastated, One thing about the quality control, Best buy's displays models, one of them had a black screen the entire time and the other one had no force feedback on a trackpad, so they're messing something up

    • @SenselInc
      @SenselInc Před 14 dny

      Was the one with no force feedback a XPS 13, 14 or 16? Also, did you check to see if the haptics were on in the Windows touchpad settings?

  • @nathantron
    @nathantron Před 13 dny +7

    I will never buy a laptop without dedicated FKey buttons. It's non-negotiable standing point for anyone actually doing work.

  • @petrhota529
    @petrhota529 Před 14 dny +89

    No HDMI, no USB type A, no thank you...

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim Před 14 dny +4

      HDMI is hardly a necessity. USB-A, on the other hand...

    • @rafd97
      @rafd97 Před 14 dny +8

      @@FlyboyHelosim depends where you live i'm sure

    • @brontiago
      @brontiago Před 14 dny +2

      There’s a thing called a dongle you can get for super cheap

    • @RealWorldReview
      @RealWorldReview Před 14 dny

      How old are your things you’re plugging in?

    • @morsermons9610
      @morsermons9610 Před 14 dny +7

      @@FlyboyHelosim For me HDMI is a definite necessity as my laptop is hooked up to my TV for YT and gaming. I also connect an Xbox controller through USB A and I know I can connect to my TV using wireless or BT but the lag through HDMI is non existent unlike wireless or BT.

  • @tscharf34685
    @tscharf34685 Před 14 dny +18

    Huge Dell XPS 13 fan (circa 2016). Had to take a hard pass on this model when buying a new laptop, ended up with HP Spectre 14 x360 2024. Willing to pay a premium for Dell but not for an unforced regression. Keyboard was a non-starter. Nope.

    • @pellejutterstrom
      @pellejutterstrom Před 14 dny +1

      also looking at Spectre right now, was going to get a new XPS but they can forget that now

    • @NissocoMC
      @NissocoMC Před 11 dny

      how is the spectre 14? I am seriously considering it but not sure how good HP is

  • @hp6r
    @hp6r Před 14 dny +4

    Toshiba used to have a flush trackpad but they used a different texture and a light bar to guide you to it, it was really nice.

  • @nemis123
    @nemis123 Před 14 dny +34

    Cause of the escape key,its completly unusable for me.

  • @davidmasterson883
    @davidmasterson883 Před 14 dny +8

    My last 4 laptops over the las 10 years have been xps 15 , xps 15 , xps 17 and currently new xps 17. My next laptop will not be an xps 16 or for that matter a dell. Very disappointed with where they have taken this icon!

  • @porterejohn
    @porterejohn Před 14 dny +6

    The delete key being in the touch bar is even worse than the escape key!

  • @Javadamutt
    @Javadamutt Před 14 dny +4

    Least the base model starts with 16gb Ram. 8Gb ram would have been egregious at this price point.
    Saying that, above £1,500 I would expect a 32GB option rather than having to add the RTX 4050 bringing it to £2299 then another for 32GB its £2449.
    Something that needs to be pointed out that due to the option of bringing your own Ram, nothing can touch Framework in terms of value

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 13 dny +1

      I do not know any pro machines at 16-inch with 8GB base, so I am not sure why you bought this up? Apple, in fact, starts their 16-inch Pro models at 18GB

  • @BlakeHelms
    @BlakeHelms Před 14 dny +3

    As someone who owned a Touch Bar Mac, I will never own another laptop without physical function keys and a lack of a physical escape key was one of the most infuriating experiences. How did Dell make this mistake‽

  • @MorgFlame
    @MorgFlame Před 14 dny +8

    2 laptop reviews less than 24 hours is quite remarkable to see :)

  • @Nicolai0901
    @Nicolai0901 Před 14 dny +1

    i had the XPS13 Evo a while ago as an Testdevice from Dell at my Office, same look and I have to say I hate the Shiny Glass Thing. The Carbon Fiber did not only save a few pounds it also look nice, and you had keys that you can easily type on, not an "flush" keyboard where you do not feel where you currently are with your fingers.

  • @watercannonscollaboration2281

    The one benefit (that the old XPS desperately needed) is a haptic trackpad. The old design was aging fine, add a haptic trackpad and boom
    Now it feels like the G16 is the XPS Dell should’ve made. I mean, you’re limited to 130W (and I bet it’s still Dell’s old 20V proprietary USB C instead of USB PD3.1. This is less of a big deal for me, but still…) from the charger alone, and I hope this isn’t like the 9700 XPS17 where the battery drains on the highest spec model when plugged in

  • @bandyinkeplayz4404
    @bandyinkeplayz4404 Před 14 dny +5

    You know its bad when the man who love the xps 15 more than his wife is disappointed with the xps 16 😂

  • @rocker10039
    @rocker10039 Před 13 dny +2

    A legion with a pressure sensitive touchscreen and stylus support would be the dream laptop for me. Imagine the possibilities. Zbrush with a stylus😭

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 Před 13 dny +1

    I like that microSD cards are small but I also hate that they're small. I almost sent one flying across the room when I hit the eject button on a camera. I much rather have it in an adapter in a camera. Then was the other time when between walking from the front of the room to the back of the room to get the card I dropped it! And of course I needed to get the clip off because we had an issue with the stream so I was trying to re-upload it before the next session. And you also don't get the write protect switch!

  • @miguelangelt1445
    @miguelangelt1445 Před 14 dny +3

    We are going to force Dell to change the design and be something like the XPS 16 but with physical function keys, USB A, HDMI, full SD card, 90W in the GPU and a lightweight 165W charger, it is simply an excellent purchase option , but for now only with a much lower price (2,500 max), it would be recommended

  • @alfredoaraujo9294
    @alfredoaraujo9294 Před 14 dny +3

    We want a LTT daily drivers video of phones and laptops!

  • @doryiii
    @doryiii Před 14 dny +1

    I really really hated the touch control on the XPS 13 plus, to the point of returning it. I was forced to look down onto my keyboard all the time which was infuriating, especially when I have so many shortcuts configured using the F-keys.

  • @SterlingSanders
    @SterlingSanders Před 10 dny

    Gave up on the XPS in 2020 when my first 17” over heated and wouldn’t stop blue screening, and the next three replacements were al broken in different ways, screen, constant bsod, power issues. Grabbed a MBP never looked back. Run parallels and moved on with my life.

  • @italianbasegard
    @italianbasegard Před 14 dny +8

    11:42 Ah yes finally, Dell made a laptop without the Escape key! 🤦‍♂️

  • @bio_stack
    @bio_stack Před 14 dny +3

    Yeah the function row is a cost-cutting/design decision that makes the laptop unusable for most professional work

  • @siantschild2010
    @siantschild2010 Před 5 dny

    Did anyone else notice in the shots of the motherboard that it looks like there's just a bunch of empty space in the case? It almost looks like while they increased the size of the case, they cut corners on the internals by basically re-using the motherboard of the XPS 15 and just making the vapour chamber fit. Because the previous XPS 15 had a second SSD slot that seems to have been removed in the re-design

  • @CBZED101
    @CBZED101 Před 14 dny +2

    My hugest complaint is the touchpad - I love the design and how it works when it’s new - but those piezo buzzers fail super quick - I returned my XPS 13 Plus in less than 30 days because it had already stopped reliably clicking - and would even glitch

    • @SenselInc
      @SenselInc Před 14 dny +1

      FYI, Sensel (that's us) are one of the new haptic touchpad suppliers on the XPS 14 and 16. The supplier on the XPS 13 Plus was another company, and ours are much better and don't use piezos. That's why Dell added us in to the fold for their latest designs. So please don't let your bad experience on the XPS 13 Plus sour your opinion of the 14 or 16. Give us a chance. =)

  • @AventinIndustries
    @AventinIndustries Před 14 dny +18

    Oooh no ... My XPS 9570 is beginning to fall apart and I was waiting for the 16. Hopefully my beauty will do another year 😅

    • @ubacow7109
      @ubacow7109 Před 14 dny +2

      Just move on to framework~

    • @b127_1
      @b127_1 Před 14 dny

      Just get a 9500 through 9530 generation xps 15 and put a new battery in it. Easy to fix, upgradable ram + storage and a keyboard that makes sense. What more does one need.

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 Před 14 dny +2

      just switch to the 2024 Asus G16, better in every way (or a macbook if you don't game, those have gotten really good too)

    • @segiraldovi
      @segiraldovi Před 14 dny

      @@houssamalucad753 better if you pick an old M1, you can save a lot of money

    • @houssamalucad753
      @houssamalucad753 Před 14 dny

      @@segiraldovi yeah the macbook pro 14 M1/M2 Pro is the best value laptop in the world right now, the Air M1 is amazing value too but the low non upgradable ram and storage it might be obsolete much sooner

  • @rael_gc
    @rael_gc Před 14 dny +3

    My latest XPS 15, several years ago, I got because it has not soldered RAM. Now Dell is making its entire line (even Precision) with soldered RAM. And no, the small difference in RAM speed will not help performance.

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 13 dny

      Why do you need modular RAM? Data suggests that RAM will now last longer than all components. Repairability is optional in 2024 with RAM; the benefits of soldered RAM outweigh the negatives. You have to buy what you need at launch. And yes, there is a speed and latency benefit of having the fastest RAM

    • @lejoshmont2093
      @lejoshmont2093 Před 13 dny +2

      @@andyH_England long term support. If it is soldered It should be illegal to sell anything other than the max amount for future e waste concerns. Then you have the criminal amounts they charge for ram upgrades. 1500 for 64gb is delusional.

    • @rael_gc
      @rael_gc Před 13 dny +1

      @@andyH_England Why? The obvious answer: later upgrades. In my previous XPS, after 3 years, I've upgrade RAM and storage. Now you have to pick the top configuration, which RAM prices that are tied to the manufacturer. With unsoldered RAM, you can pick RAM from anyone, years later (i.e., lower prices). The latency difference is unnoticeable.

  • @TheSolidSnakeOil
    @TheSolidSnakeOil Před 14 dny +1

    One of the first things I do when setting up a new computer is switch caps lock to escape. I never use and it's a waste of space.

  • @lexfilatenko6397
    @lexfilatenko6397 Před 14 dny +1

    sad to see what has happened to the xps lineup. was shopping for a laptop recently, and didn't even considered xps because of that ridiculous touch bar.

  • @LabCat
    @LabCat Před 13 dny +4

    At this point, there is absolutely no reason to buy the XPS when the Precision and Latitude lines exist, unless you want an Alienware laptop that is crappier than an Alienware laptop.

    • @lejoshmont2093
      @lejoshmont2093 Před 13 dny +1

      I wished the precision and latitude lines got more attention.

  • @uhohadam
    @uhohadam Před 14 dny +4

    The XPS 16 is a massive massive downgrade from the XPS 17, especially with the specs.

  • @piyh3962
    @piyh3962 Před 14 dny +1

    My XPS 13 from 2018 came from the factory with blown speakers too, so it's not a recent QC issue

  • @spiritedgareth
    @spiritedgareth Před 11 dny

    The XPS line was my favorite laptop series for a long time... I had one of the originals when they started including the carbon fiber palm rests and fell in love with it. But there's a reason why I requested a Thinkpad from my work. They've really lost it over the years... those final words of the review really stuck with me on exactly how I feel as a longtime fan of the XPS.

  • @C-Handle
    @C-Handle Před 14 dny +4

    Dell has destroyed XPS....
    But will Kendrick destroy Drake?

  • @mrhenry7775
    @mrhenry7775 Před 14 dny +5

    Who in their right mind buys full size SD cards?! For I don't know 10 years it's been a good idea to buy micro SD with an adapter so you can use the same card in the camera in the laptop in the tablet on the drone in the go pro in the 3d printer even for crying out loud! And you don't need a dongle ever...
    I mean there is one universal form factor everyone seems to be moving to and you find it bad?!
    It's like complaining your SIM card should come in full size 😅
    We do deserve the form factor mess we are in then...

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 13 dny +2

      I assume there are nearly a billion full-size SD cards in the wild. So, e-waste if everyone has to convert to microSD. But I do get your point. We should have moved permanently to microSD by now, and it is the usual group that moans about no USBA that wants to keep a full-size SD card.

    • @TheSonoranSniper
      @TheSonoranSniper Před 13 dny +2

      you say that like there's no benefits to full size SD cards at all

    • @mrhenry7775
      @mrhenry7775 Před 13 dny

      @@andyH_England fair point. But of that billion how many are 1-2-4-8-16gig basically ewaste anyway as in a modern camera or most other applications too small?
      My comment was also about him complaining he can't go from camera to pc. Which you can if you bought the smaller factor. As it's backwards compatible

    • @ktfjulien
      @ktfjulien Před 13 dny

      They dont make v90 microsd cards

    • @andyH_England
      @andyH_England Před 13 dny

      @@ktfjulien Delkin makes V90 microSD cards, but they are expensive. 64GB costs £100.

  • @andyradford4574
    @andyradford4574 Před 14 dny

    Can you only get laptops in 4k or 1080p? I can compromise to 1440p if it means a very good screen (good colour accuracy and HDR etc).

  • @houssamalucad753
    @houssamalucad753 Před 14 dny +2

    Absolutely no reason to get an XPS, unlike 5 years ago we have Apple fixing their design mistakes and using much more efficient chips, Asus slimming down their G14 and G16 and making them great looking and lighter, Lenovo starting to use top end components for their Yoga pro 9i 14" and 16", and even HP joined in with the Transcend 14.

  • @LWonderchild
    @LWonderchild Před 11 dny +5

    Crying about a 5lb laptop is crazy

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      @harveyoscar2925 Před 13 dny

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  • @McTwistedTwisties
    @McTwistedTwisties Před 14 dny +1

    Looks like I'll be switching from the XPS to the Precision 5690 for the function keys.

  • @yrneh7168
    @yrneh7168 Před 14 dny

    Ironically watching this on my "new" XPS 13 from 2019. Got it for well under 400 USD as a refurbished ex-corporate machine with a 4K touchscreen, 16gb RAM, and a solid 8th Gen Core i5. I'm loving it, and I finally get why Alex loves it so much. The 2024 16" goes against a lot of what past XPSs (XPI?) were, both design-wise and underneath. As a wise man once said, glass is glass, and glass breaks. (A lot more than Carbon Fibre)

  • @Thedishesss
    @Thedishesss Před 13 dny +1

    Can someone please explain to me the situation with the digitizer in front of the pixels?? I noticed this in the Best Buy demo unit and I HATED it. WHY WHY WHY does dell not know how to integrate the digitizer into the actual pixels like all phones and tablets from Samsung have?? How could it possibly be so hard when it is so commonly done??
    It makes me so frustrated TBH

  • @peteremidy7221
    @peteremidy7221 Před 10 dny

    I had been looking for a replacement laptop for my old XPS 9560 starting towards the end of last year. Decided to wait until Dell refreshed the XPS lineup to see if those would be what I want. Was really disappointed with the choices Dell made with the new XPS series both with removing upgradability (no second NVMe slot like last year's, and soldered RAM) and how ridiculously expensive they are for their performance.
    I ended up getting the 2024 Zephyrus G16 with a 4080 and really been enjoying that laptop

  • @jimbo-dev
    @jimbo-dev Před 13 dny +1

    Performance section skipped the cpu?

  • @Tsaukpaetra
    @Tsaukpaetra Před 13 dny +1

    12:53 Mine came with blown out speakers too! I was floored when I figured that out! 😭
    Very first time it booted and the "boop doop whoop" of the Windows OOBE and just sat with a WTF face for a full minute...

  • @shirakhan5112
    @shirakhan5112 Před 14 dny

    They should urgently release an update to be capable of switching the esc button with the right corner physical switch

  • @amateurwizard
    @amateurwizard Před 12 dny

    I don't like it either, at least for the price.
    You like to see eWaste Dongles rather that buying your own dongle that has a complete complement of ports? How about better (more consistently high bandwidth) ports?
    The carbonfiber was the cause of many RMA. Many of which I saw first hand. Decomposing composite because someone didn't just use soap and water. Even the sanitiser from your hand can cause endless peeling. Saw one where the chassis had literally splintered.
    I have so many gripes with this device & review... but whatever.

  • @JDizon849
    @JDizon849 Před 12 dny

    The company I work for actually started issuing these to employees recently and I second most of these points. For one, the lack of a physical escape button drives me mad. Two, I didn’t feel the same “dirty screen” feeling you got so I’m not sure what’s happening there. Lastly, if you buy this directly from Dell, they give you Windows 11 Pro, but if you buy it from Best Buy, they give you Windows 11 Home. Granted, it was about $400 cheaper at Best Buy when we bought our last batch so it canceled out the price of buying Pro licenses, but if Pro matters to you, you may want to consider buying directly from Dell.

  • @SeanTobeler
    @SeanTobeler Před 12 dny

    All this Labs info on laptop color accuracy and benchmarks.. is there a site yet where we can see all laptops ever measured by Labs to see how they stack up? Bonus points if it's filterable by I/O, specs, and features.

  • @Senthiuz
    @Senthiuz Před 13 dny +1

    As someone who uses legacy systems for work, I would give up having a trackpad before giving up my function keys.

  • @miscme7116
    @miscme7116 Před 12 dny

    Is it still even possible to use the SSD self encryption, or is the possibility to activate it disabled just like in the XPS 15 it was and never came? Had to use Veracrypt because of this on XPS 15.

  • @thechrissmartin
    @thechrissmartin Před 13 dny

    TBH, I have used XPS 15 for years, the carbon fibre body is a pain. It becomes oily and if it's closed for sometime it get's all weird with bacteria growth / fungus. I used to clean the body with isopropyl alcohol quite often aswell. I am happy with the material updates actually.

  • @sanyammalhan
    @sanyammalhan Před 2 dny

    The quality control on the channel's videos is far superior than any form of quality control at Dell. Seriously, you guys had to reshoot the video thrice already.

  • @varno
    @varno Před 9 dny

    The Precision version of this laptop is much more expensive, but has all the issues mentioned about ports and such more resolved. still no USB-A or ethernet but HDMI, and a full-sized SD card slot and a better keyboard. I have one for work the precision 5690. The price though.....

  • @Souchirouu
    @Souchirouu Před 13 dny +1

    Ctrl + Shift + Escape = Taks manager.

  • @AmitApolloBarman
    @AmitApolloBarman Před 12 dny

    My 2008 Dell XPS was so damn sleek. That hinge was wild. Turned it into a Hackbook.

  • @Staas1
    @Staas1 Před 13 dny +1

    Precision 5590/5690 is the better way to go than the new "XPS"

  • @abones900
    @abones900 Před 14 dny

    This is why I was relieved that I received my email from Framework the other day saying that my Framebook 16 is scheduled for manufacturing this month.

  • @taylorhansen9290
    @taylorhansen9290 Před 13 dny

    They should have the option to remap the tilde key to escape, preferably at the hardware level. Then let you access the tilde using the Fn key.

  • @brandon2755
    @brandon2755 Před 14 dny

    Even apple admitted mistake and brought back the physical esc key before killing the touchbar entirely, some things should never be capacitive/software controlled.

  • @konrad3
    @konrad3 Před 14 dny +1

    Irreplaceable Ram is a deal breaker with this Laptop price range!

  • @aussiegruber86
    @aussiegruber86 Před 14 dny

    I went with the latitude 9000 series over the xps, everyone I know with one has had some many issues with the touch buttons across the top

  • @nagi603
    @nagi603 Před 14 dny

    I still sport an old 13" that just started peeling the rubber off. With that as an extra annoyance, plus the bloatware, general lack of performance and hamstrung stuff, I'm looking at a framework instead.
    Oh and that keyboard looks atrocious to use. Just like the old Surface Pro 2's. Only it had an F-row. F that.

  • @LXIX_
    @LXIX_ Před 14 dny +2

    I bought 2 latitude 9440s earlier this year. Both were defective, Dell's tech completely destroyed one, and I waited 2 months to get my return back. I am done with Dell, don't trust any of their new products

  • @kutiz7273
    @kutiz7273 Před 12 dny

    Wasn't every new sd card has a full size adapter?
    And like buying it isn't that hard either if you don't have one.

  • @steph.bolduc
    @steph.bolduc Před 13 dny

    Removing the physical ESC key is a big oversight for basically any productivity, CAD and 3D modelling applications! 🤦

  • @Zocress
    @Zocress Před 13 dny +1

    No physical esc key is a sin.

  • @justincroserold
    @justincroserold Před 13 dny

    I'd like to see you guys review system76 laptops but I suppose it's a conflict of interest with framework

  • @Rkcuddles
    @Rkcuddles Před 12 dny

    Wait what’s Dell premier color? Should I be using this to make my Alienware qd-OLED look better? It’s hard to work on

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 Před 13 dny

    Can't remember it might've been an HP (15-20 years ago I think it was one of the first systems to use touch buttons) I failed a pre-test because I wiped away some dust and bumped the Wi-Fi button which crashed the software which was running over the network. I like my Touch Bar but nondescript touch buttons yeah bad idea.

  • @FelipoGoncalves
    @FelipoGoncalves Před 13 dny

    The CAMMs are only available on very expensive Precision series now...

  • @stilllife8
    @stilllife8 Před 14 dny +1

    The delete key being capacitive touch automatically makes this a no-buy for me.

  • @12gark
    @12gark Před 13 dny

    Dell is speedrunning the "how to ruin a brand" thing.
    Trash keyboards that regularly break weeks after warranty expires on cheap laptops, trash audio driver that cause issues with headphones and Microsoft Teams (stuff nobody is using, right?) on their professional line, and terrible design choices on the xps. Great. Really great stuff.

  • @gregg0518
    @gregg0518 Před 14 dny

    I want sound tests against the G16 instead of macbooks on windows laptop comparisons.
    please!

  • @inkrot
    @inkrot Před 14 dny

    The touch bar would be my first reason for not getting it. I, like alex, instinctively reach for the ESC key all the time and if its not an actual button I dont want it

  • @furykillerBZ
    @furykillerBZ Před 13 dny +2

    No function row? Immediate fail

  • @davir.andrade908
    @davir.andrade908 Před 10 dny +1

    Too expensive for a laptop with a reflective screen.