A Content Creators dream display - Dell XPS 17 Review
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Dell´s XPS 17 is back for another round, with the same #chassis we know and love, updated internals, and the perfect display for content creators.
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They've got to upgrade that chassis and include more ports.
Good review by the way.
Thanks a lot. I`m very torn about this to be honest. It looks and feels great and is very portable despite the weight. And since you got the adapter in the box ....
XPS 17 with vapour chamber is one of the best premium laptops in the market
It sure is, the build quality and overall feel of the laptop are alsmost unmatched.
I've got the XPS 15 2022 and i'm loving it so far
Nice, I hope we will get that one for a review soon as well. What configuration you got?
Do you game on it for example Any rocket league or Genshin Impact if so, what are the frame rates I'm debating on which on to buy Zephyrus m16 2022 or the Dell xps 15 9520
The lack of Wi-Fi 6e is a glaring omission for such an expensive machine.
For anybody that has already invested in a 6E network for sure. That said, transfer rates are still excellent and relatively stable!
@@NotebookcheckReviews It's about future proofing. When you pay top dollar, you'd want the device to be able to utilize 6e if you upgrade to it in the future.
4K panels on laptops are incredible, more PPI than 8K on regular monitors
Yepp, the new XPS 16 is pretty insane in this regard as well!
@@NotebookcheckReviews It's nothing compared to back in 2021 when the XPS 13 had a 4K panel on a *13* inch display. I think the PPI was 337. More than some smartphones!
Dell has a big sale on the 9720 i7 with the 3050 graphics right now, very tempting. Not the newest model but such a savings it is very tempting. But a question. I've seen multiple reviews suggesting the 3060 not the 3050 graphics option, especially with the 4k UHD+ display. But the big discount, with either screen, only come with the 3050. Do you have any input you care to share about the 3050 vs 3060 graphics card, if that should be a concern for my use cases mention in my earlier post below? And the savings is $300 more if I stick to the FHD+ display option, do you have any thoughts on that choice, the FHD+ vs UHD+ displays? My old 2016 Dell 17" Inspiron has a QHD display which is okay, it's all I'm used to, but it's not a 4k or 3k Oled, and the FHD+ I understand is a step down from even the QHD, so I'm concerned about the FHD+. That said a 15" XPS on display at Bestbuy with an FHD+ screen looks really good, better than my current older 17" QHD, but I'm concerned that quality pic on the 15" won't carry up to the 17". So I'd really welcome your thoughts on all the above, the 3050 vs 3060 graphics card question foremost, but both issues if you care to. Thanks. (I have considered saving another $200 by dropping down to the i5 with integrated instead of dedicated graphics, but I'm not sure that would be enough for the long hours I am online streaming and chroming and such, so may not be worth the savings. But then if it is, maybe it would get even better battery life, I just don't know. So I have been planning on the i7, unless there's good reason otherwise)
Hi Nate, have you checked our written review about the XPS 17 with the RT 3050? That should answer most of your questions.
Overall the 4K is simply stunning and is one of the best IPS Panels you can get.
I would personally not got for the FullHD version, since it would be too low-res for me and even if you are not into photo editing or something alike, the increased resolution will give you much more clarity.
@@NotebookcheckReviews I just went and read that written review. Excellent. Very thorough. Thanks for pointing it out. I really don't know what I'm going to do here. Seems there are a lot of trade offs with this beautiful laptop that just hasn't been updated in various ways with the times. I'm beginning to think that if I do go the xps 17" route, I should only get the now older 9720 i7 even if just the 3050 and not the 3060 and save all that money, since the 9730 will cost roughly twice as much. A couple questions:
If you look at my personal use cases from my prior post about 2 weeks ago that you were also kind enough to respond to, are my use cases primarily single instead of multi core, and primarily cpu instead of gpu intensive, or other? Also, do you think the new gen 13 i7 H chip and the new 4070 graphics together of the new xps 9730 might noticeably improve some of the 9720 deficiencies? Oh, and is the new gen 13 H chip a lot better than the new gen 13 P chip?
It will cost me twice as much to go that 9730 route, and though I'm willing to spend the money, I'd rather only do it if it is worth it, and the lack of upgrades in certain areas like 6 wifi instead of 6e, it makes me think it will be the impact of the newer chip and graphics card that have to make the difference. And I don't know if they will improve things or not, especially after considering that some things dropped off from the 9710 to the 9720. I could always spend much less now via the 9720 instead of the 9730 and give Dell a couple years to see what upgrades they do in the near future before considering spending a lot more money on a future model. Or I could save money another way and do a Samsung Galaxy Book3 pro or pro 360 or ultra at 16" to get some newer things in it, albeit with a gen 13 P instead of H chip in the Pro and Pro 360 versions, and with no anti-glare or anti-reflective coatings on those Oled displays like the Dell xps's have. Tempting, but I just love the 17", especially in a roughly 15" form factor. Round and round. Feel free to add more here in you have some further thoughts. Either way, thanks for all you've shared already.
Great video! Is the XPS 17 much better than the 15 inch model for everyday professional work (graphic design)? Is it too heavy? Can I connect it directly to a 2K or 4K monitor because I want to use the laptop instead of desktop?
It would be great for that. It is heavy but when you are on the go I find it much nicer to work on 17" so I would not mind the extra weight. You can easily connect external monitors. I would probably get a thunderbolt dock to make it easy.
@@NotebookcheckReviews okay, thanks 😉
Is the UHD a glossy screen? Is the FHD a matte? For photo editing, how do the UHD and FHD compare for reflections?
The UHD is indeed glossy, and you are correct about the matt FHD screen.
You can work with both quite easily if you are careful with your surroundings. The glossy one might give you more "direct" mirrored reflections, but the matt screen will give you a diffused glare that might make it even harder to judge your images.
So I would still go for the UHD screen because of its superb color rendition and accuracy and avoid setting it up with lights behind you.
Your laptop stand looks really nice, which one is it?
It is a really old belkin, as far as I can remember. It is discontinued tho.
Still waiting on that Gigabyte Aero 17 review.
It will come sooner or later, but for now you have to be patient I`m afraid.
Do you think Dell will change the chassis in the next gen? Apple has brought back some ports and made a pretty considerable redesign, one would think Dell would consider this...
Good question. I could imagine that all the brands that followed apple with certain design decisions might rethink some of those.
An XPS 13+-like redesign is conceivable. Current design of XPS 15 & 17 is stale.
Hey do you have any issues with calibrating the monitor and having the colors look different in programs such as Photoshop and Lightroom? Also when hooking the computer of via USBC to my sw270c the colors tend to be off regardless of calibration
I had no issues at all, and I also had my sw270c connected to it.
How did you calibrate? I used the xrite i1 profiler for the XPS and BenQs Palette Master Element for the BenQ
@@NotebookcheckReviews yes that is exactly hoe I have it except I'm running it off a laptop and dells color are all wonky. I'm sure it's an issue with the laptop
Interesting, it worked fine for me. What do you mean by wonky?
how is the battery life compared to the MBP 16 M series? Does it have a longer lasting battery?
No, it does not. Compared to this model, a M1 equipped Macbook Pro 16 can get you almost double the battery life in our WiFi standard test.
Very good review. Now that the XPS 9730 is out, the i7 version anytime now, I'd love to see you do a full review of that, comparing it to this prior 9720. Any thoughts on that comparison so far? I could save some money getting the 9720 now, but will gladly pay more if there is good reason to. I do not do gaming or video editing and such, but am online long hours 24/7 from my home office and from time to time my suv as a mobile hotspot, doing lots of basic stuff, mostly online, though some writing too, lots of streaming quotes and charts, you tube videos, multiple chrome tabs open, some chatting and emailing. I would welcome your thoughts. Thanks. And keep up the great work.
We have no word on samples for the new generation yet.
I am testing a last-gen XPS 15 right now, and it's still perfect for the exact use cases you mentioned. I am unsure if you will "feel" a difference from the new offerings. But of course, I can only be sure after we had them in the studio for the review!
How do you do hardware calibration on the XPS? Where are the settings? What device is that that you used?
Its a software calibration, and we used the i1 Display and the i1 Studio Pro 2 for calibration with X-Rites i1 Profiler. If I remember correctly, Dell also has their own calibration software that you can use with an i1 Display.
@@NotebookcheckReviews thanks so much!
If Dell can manage to fit in a more powerful GPU than the RTX 3060, like an RTX 3070, I would definitely go for the Dell XPS 17. I wouldn’t mind the extra weight and thickness but for what I would be paying for this I would expect at least a reasonably powerful GPU.
Well the chassis design is a big part of what makes the XPS 17 such an amazing design.
But yeah, maybe they can up with a XPS 17 pro that’s thicker and has more cooling potential …
@@billbrooke4355 I suppose, but with thunderbolt becoming more powerful I guess it's worth to buy an eGPU for it, especially given it's over-the-top CPU
@@billbrooke4355 that's a good point, and I would much rather get a laptop built around the 3060 if you're getting a 3060 laptop anyway. There are already quite a few 3060/17in listings on Newegg, Amazon etc. starting at around $1499, so it doesn't make any sense to buy a laptop with such an overpowered CPU unless you're doing something like video editing, photoshop, or playing extremely CPU-bound games.
What is the brand of the stand that is used for the laptop ?
It is an old Belkin stand, but it is not available anymore.
How much is the price of the 2022 version in the market?
Depends on where you want to buy it!
Would you say the XPS 17 9710 with rtx 3060 is a better value for money?
If you favor GPU performance over CPU performance than yes. I could imagine you can get some pretty good deals on last years model, if you can live with slightly lower CPU performance.
If you head over to our website you can use the comparison tool on the original article (link is in the describtion) and put both models against each other. This way you can see the exact performance difference.
@@NotebookcheckReviews thank you. Will do...
i just bought a 9710 i7 3060 16gb ram and 1tbssd for 1600
@@mousefaiandy is the the Full HD or 4k screen? And how's it holding up?
should i go with i7 12700h or ryzen 7 6800h for gaming laptop? note: I would be buying a laptop with discrete rtx 3060 graphics card so which one would be better? intel or amd since the gaming load will mainly be handled by the GPU anyways?
I would highly suggest not going with a laptop. If you really must the thing to focus on is the GPU you won’t be happy with a 3060
i7 12700h if you feed well it's shines, but anything else go with ryzen.
@@ajmc7461 i can't roam with a whole PC in university
I would go with Intel if every frame counts, but the Ryzen will be a bit more efficient and will probably give you better battery life. You might also be able to find better deals on Ryzen Laptops ... it is tough these days to get a bad-performing laptop, and the RTX 3060 is an excellent performer.
We just reviewed the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro on our website with a pretty beefy 3060. Might be an Option for you?
@@NotebookcheckReviews thank you for your suggestion
I have got nothing against the chassis of the Dell XPS lineup. But I would love to see them with the same thinness and a boxy shape just like the macbook pro 14 / 16 lineup.
Well we got the Macbook Pros for that design, I think its great if not all machines look the same, right?!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Jup! I respect every design. Especially those of Dells XPS lineup. I just wasn't a big fan of tapered frame designs for along time. Hands down why I used a ThinkPad T440p for a long time.
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Nahh , review the "msi creator z16p" , that's much more interesting
Video about the Z16P will come some time next week! :)
no ports... dont like that!
Macbook Pro 16" all the way.
Got one coming to test it for our video production!
No gaming and no Power BI = No MacBook for me.
Absolutely crazy that companies don't think a thicker chassis for more full size ports and better cooling solution is desirable than this thin and light joke
Well, I am sure they do their fair share of market research. And for most things, the XPS 17 is actually fast enough. Most people out there probably won't push their systems like crazy. For those that do, well, there are enough options out there that utilize today's hardware quite effectively and offer more varied port solutions.
They're following the trend Apple set. Always less repairability. Always less ports.
@@thibaldus3 Yeah. Gets funny a bit when their marketing research is always based on what apple sells. Even if modern laptops are way too thin to cool down Intel chips they will continue to do so until apple reverts back to a bit thicker ones.
In other words review was made for kind’s.
Where are full specs sheet and real numbers on real work tasks?
We got youo covered in our written review, you can find the link in the video description. It goes into much more detail.
Battery life is 💩...
Considering the hardware and the large 4k I cant really agree with you ...
surely the laptop is big enough for a num pad. deal breaker 👎
50% of the worlds population will agree with you! :)
Are you a shill?
Last time we checked, we weren`t! ;)
Your reviews do seem pretty biased. The heck.
What makes you think that? Please let us know!
12th gen intel is a failure
Considering they deliver excellent performance in almost all our reviews, that is not how I would put it. Are they perfect? No, but a failure? Not really either ...