HK P30 and P30L for CCW
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Sometimes I answer requests. Today we look at why I carry the P30 an P30L among others. It's a B- video at best.
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0:00 The video
15:20 Memorial day
why carry a P30?....Because JohnWick says so.
A very thorough and accurate review.
I never paid much attention to HK prior to the introduction of the P30. I carried and loved my Sig P226 throughout my LE career. I knew HKs were great guns, but thought they were overpriced. Then, I made the mistake of holding a P30 shortly after it’s introduction, during a look and see trip to my local gun store. It was the most ergonomically perfect gun I had ever held and is to this day. Love at first sight. So, I purchased a P30S V3 in 40 S&W and that became my CCW gun. I still love my Sig but it spends most of its retirement time in my safe. Shortly thereafter, I added an HK45. Loved that one too, but it’s kind of large to conceal carry in the warmer months. It is however a great winter carry gun. I have since added an HK45C, P30SKS V3 (as my primary CCW), and just recently a P30LS V3 IN 9MM. Honestly, I probably didn’t really need the P30L, but in addition to being a great looking gun, it’s one of the best shooting guns that you will ever hold.
IMO, no one makes a better gun than HK at any price.
I’ve been told I have too many, but I enjoy rotating through the line up and carrying them each at some point.
One last point. Regarding the V3 trigger…it gets beat to death by the keyboard warriors. It’s function was not an oversight or mistake by HK. It was designed to be as it is. The DA first shot is meant to be stiff and deliberate to avoid accidental discharges during high stress scenarios. HKs are designed to be combat guns, not range queens. That being said, not only is it not that bad, but it gets better with use. And if you still don’t like it after a few hundred rounds, spend 99.00 on a Gray Guns short reset trigger and the problem is solved. I have two and love them. As for the complaints on the paddle style mag release, I now prefer it hands down. From what I read in the comments on these reviews that is more often the case with most.
So, if you find yourself on the fence, whining about the price, just save a little bit longer and take the plunge. You won’t regret it.
One HK is better than two cheap guns and you will never again have to explain to anyone why you did it.
Exactly. One HK is better than 2 or 3 cheap pistols. People say they’re too much but have a safe full of Taurus, Rock Island, CZ, etc. This HK is literally the one and only pistol you would need. I’ve got the HK45, HK45c, P30SK and a few USP variants though. I carry them cocked and locked.
I agree,save the money and get a h&k. I see a lot of people scream Glock ,then start replacing parts. They could have bought a h&k and run it straight out of the box. Love my p30 's and the vp40 and 9.
Well put. Hopefully my next h&k will be a p30 in 40 s&w.
Finally got ahold of a P30 V1 converted to 4.1 / GG short reset installed. My goooooodness! Same excellent grip as the VP9 but a can thumb the hammer while holstering. Absolutely beautiful.
RE: Memorial Day. I completely agree. Those we lost were all guys that loved to have a good time and smile. Remember them as such. Shed a tear if you must, but remember they were at their best while living happy - and so are you. Great video, man.
Well cause the vp9s grip was just copied from the p30 lol
Just picked up my P30 V1 LEM! Cannot wait to take it to the range. I have been carrying a USP .40 or a Canik Elite SC (which I will be selling soon) Thanks for your service man, my son is in the Navy and super proud of him.
Happy Memorial Day, and thank you for the dive into the P30.
You too man and happy to do it.
I really feel you on the P30 safety lever, I searched far and wide to find a P30L without the lever. Unfortunately ive only been able to put about 300 rounds through it so far but hope to get that number a lot higher in the near future. Thanks for the upload as always aquatic guy.
Happy to do it, and I'm looking at adding a P30L V3 non-safety. I appreciate you watching.
Thank you for EVERYTHING you do. I own all of the P30’s, V3 without safety and they’re all just right for the job I need them to do. Be safe and enjoy your day my friend.
They're perfect for me without the safety, my P30LS has done the job just fine....but I'm not a fan of the safety. Thanks for watching man, I appreciate it and have a great day today.
I bought two p30s V3 for me and my wife after your review of the GG Short Rest Trigger. THANK YOU!!
Happy to help! Thanks for watching.
Great video! You always make me re-evaluate and think about my choices. Happy Memorial Day and thank you for your service to our nation. Semper Fortis to all you swabbies!
Likewise, thanks for yours. Have a great day today and thanks for watching.
@@navyman8903 Thanks, I'm not a veteran -- didn't mean to imply that I'd been in the military.
@@zachb.6606 no stress it's 9n me for assuming. We're good.
The LEGEND has returned!!!🔥🔥🔥
Lol thanks man. C- at best.
Thank you very much for your Service and for the video. I love the P30 line of pistols.
Thanks I appreciate it.
The H&K P30 in my back pack for work. It a great gun and it one of my one my best and beautiful guns I ever bought.
Have had several variants of the P30. Liked them all. Had one of the gray framed ones too which I still wish I had. Currently have just 1. A V1 lite LEM with Trijicon HD’s on it with a little over 2k rounds thru. Still love the way the pistol feels in the hand. Will probably do a short reset mod one of these days but it’s not a super high priority. I also still think it’s probably the best looking polymer pistol that has ever been made.
Agreed. I wish the Trij HDs were a touch lower. I've mastered the POA/POI with the meps so it's always a challenge on the new Gen HK pistols. The USP series and even my Glocks all get Trijicon HDs.
After owning a M&P, P365, XD-M, and a P30s... and a P30L in 40 S&W, I asked my local shop if the P30Ls in 9mm with night sights and 3 mags were in stock, they were... and I ordered 2, primary and backup. I've always liked the profile of the Colt Commander, and the P30L mimicks this closely, with double the capacity with the new 17 round magazines. As the P30 series is rated for NATO spec ammo, American +P is something this can easily handle, and on paper 9mm +p comes close to 45 ACP stopping power. Being that the P30 has a firing pin block and a hammer block safety, safety that operates independent of the decocker, a safety that doesn't inhibit the slide (why I got rid of the XD, no grip safety engaged, slide is locked), magazine releases that don't get "pressed" and cause magazine malfunctions... there are so many reasons to like this gun. Also... a recoil system with an integrated buffer? Nice... the new meprolight sights that ship from the factory are blacked our rear with tritium and the front has a bright neon ring that is high viz daylight and illuminates from the tritium in the front sight at night, that's a $150 add on out of the box... I carry in a Safariland 6378 ALS paddle holster and forget it's there. Great all around pistol for everything, edc, duty, home defense... love your videos bro, keep spreading the good word.
The P30s are truly great guns. I was carrying a P30 or P30L for a while. Grayguns LEM. When I was sticking to HKs exclusively, I shot them extremely well. When I ventured out into SAO guns, I started noticing I was having issues getting hits with my LEM triggers. I’m assuming it was the long initial take up that was giving me fits. All of that led me to where I am today, which is either a 1911 or a G45 on my hip. I do plan to add a G17 at some point to have the same setup as a P30/ P30L. The G19 is nice but my hands are too wide for it and I get pinched when I try to reload quickly. Stupid wide hands.
I am currently out of HKs, but I am watching anxiously to see what Earnest Langdon has coming down the pipe. For what he did to improve Berettas and Glocks, a Langdon Tactical P30 might be too good for me to ignore.
New Glock 17’s are just Fun Shooters…. With practice I can almost shoot as fast as Young Beretta!!!! 🤠👮🏻♂️🇺🇸👋👍. B9USA Sr.
Your original p30L video convinced me to purchase a p30L V3 and my first HK. I had to basically pay more in order to find one without a safety. 100% worth it though. I don’t even have anything against safety’s but it’s just too big and in a weird area. I’m technically a poor and it’ll take years in order for me to afford another HK but they are so nice!
They are great and glad I could help. I really need to get another P30L but in standard V3 not a P30LS.
Where did you get the holster?
Got a P30 and was thinking i made a mistake, Thanks for the advice! Good video
I know why you like it so much! feels good in the hands (just like how every mans' own "P" feels good in their hands); Smooth shooting, fully ambi, hammer fire--which gives it an extra safety feature, decocker is another layer of safety, good fighting-size gun, always reliable no matter how you treat it.
I prefer the P30L over the P30, but for me nothing beats my CZ P-07 for a 9mm DA/SA CCW.
Thank you for your service Brother. Semper Fi
I love my p-01, I shot a friends p-07 which sold me on cz. Just instantly nailing hits with it. Couldn’t find a p-07 locally and I saw a p-01 for a good price and couldn’t pass it up. Just a tad long in the slide for comfortable appendix carry so I went to a p30sk for that and so far I love it. LEM really does it for me. Can’t ignore the fact that out of the box cz just has a better trigger. That SA is really good IMO. People love to upgrade them with Cajun parts but I don’t really find it necessary.
Roger that. Have a great Memorial Day as well.
You too man.
.... I love my P30sk v1, P30 v1, and P30L v1....all very comfortable for me to carry and not one bobble from any of them, ever👍🇺🇸... I’ve been really digging my P30L v1 lately though... I shoot each one of them equally well... it’s also very comforting to know that they are all pretty much bomb proof, and if SHTF and I’m someplace hostile when it happens, I at least know that the HK will make it home largely unscathed haha.... This channel has cost me more money than just about anything in my life, and I somehow feel I still have a long way to catch up... It’s the colored frames that are keeping me behind 😬🇺🇸
Lol happy to help where I can. I would love some P30's in OD green and RAL 8000 or tan. I wish they would make them. We'll see. WITHOUT the safety for me. The P30L is an excellent pistol, I really love it. I could honestly ditch all the other 9's I have for the P30 and P30L. But it's hard, because I like the other ones too. Thanks for watching man, I appreciate it.
@@navyman8903 You’ve pretty much summed up exactly the way I feel about this👍.. I bought my first P30 which was a v3 s... it was the only one available at the time.. It was your video that you made with your dad, and you guys were in the woods target shooting right when you first bought your P30, that made me want one haha.. I’ve been playing catch up to you since haha...regarding that video, I don’t think you were even enlisted yet, when you made that video... That was a while ago for sure... Thank you for your service, as well as all the info and content you’ve provided ... more people appreciate it than you probably know..👍🇺🇸
I have owned and fired both the P30L and P30. Both are great fire arms. Both are reliable. I love the L for balance on my hands and extended accuracy.
The P30L is definitely my favorite of the two. Such a smooth and accurate shooter.
I think the extra length of a P30L in an AIWB setup would be preferable to the P30 (really depends on your body type). Some holster makers like JM Custom Kydex will add extra holster length for small gun since the extra length can prevent the grip side from tilting over your belt. My USP 45 has been very comfortable AIWB despite the length. After handling a P30L in store today I am absolutely SOLD on it and can’t wait to pick one up when the budget allows. I was surprised I liked the web grip since I usually hate finger grooves. Also, the stock trigger is no where near as bad as people online make it out to be…
Ah the Cyberpunk track over the range footage. Made my nerd side happy. I love my P30L. Hard to improve that perfection. I'm definitely a USP fanboy, but you're right about that decocker. Its great
I like that track because they mixed Cyberpunk and Doom. The P30L is a great pistol, the trigger can be a bear at first. But once it smooths out it's great. I've done some impressive, fast and clean work with my P30L.
@@navyman8903 nice, I'm still smoothing out my P30L, still takes a back seat to my 229 Legion and USP45, but it handles great. HK just does it right
Thanks for your impressions, I bought one a year and a half ago, no box 2012 variant 1 S model… great shooter!
Dropped in the Gray Guns reset and a 11# hammer spring and true dot sights, it’s probably my favorite hammer gun I own, beating out my beloved 226 228 229.
Bought a VP 9 back in 2014 when they came out and was not impressed at all- sold it. While the ergos are great, accuracy fine, What I saw was a very flippy pistol that did not compare to how fast I run my Glocks.
P30 corrects this.
The P30 series is excellent, especially with a short reset kit. The VP9 has a fast recoil impulse/cycle of operations. So I get that criticism. It isn't flippy for me, but it is a faster recoil if that makes sense. The P30 series doesn't suffer from that.
@@navyman8903 don’t think I agree that vp9 is faster cycling than a Glock.
But I do hve to say I’ve been bit by HK bug I picked up a few months back another 2012 but in USP C 9mm flavor and now I am jonesing for a Hk 45 Nxt!
Cheers!
Love my P30S. I owned a VP9 and HK45C already, but your earlier videos convinced me to get one. Did they Gray Guns short reset trigger, and it made a world of difference.
As weird as it sounds, and maybe it's just me, but I found that messing with the grip panels made a world of difference in the accuracy department for me. I stayed with the factory mediums for my first few range trips, and wasn't loving the results. Switched to large all around, and got much better results.
Happy I could help. The P30 series with the mediums fits me the best, but I completely agree switching things out to have the gun fit you is the move. The less you fight with or struggle with something the better. Making simple changes to help you do that is smart.
I carried a line of P30s for a few years. Great pistol. Running a Staccato C2 now though.
The P30 series is great for sure. The 2011s are a whole different animal and level of pistol.
Chose the p30l lem v1 for my 2nd ever HK. Vp9sk was my first hk. Love the vp9sk.. Only have 50rds of 115 brass through the p30l.. will switch that to 124g next time. I also own glock 19x, sig p320xc, 365, glock 29, colt 1911, and walther pdp 4inch among others.. I'm not brand specific guy, but leaning to HK brand lately. I like the build quality, fit and finish, and of course the look. Anyway, thank you for making the videos, us newbies appreciate it 👍
Happy to do it and let me know how it breaks in. The P30L is a great gun, they definitely start stiff. Thanks for watching.
Didn't realize that HK recommends 124gr and heavier. I was so excited to find a new p30l lem for sale locally. I ran to the range with blazer brass 115 and was getting weak ejections. Switched to 124gr and seems to be no problems. The p30l just feels very different from my other polymer 9mms. Ergos, balance, build quality, texture on the grip. I really like this weapon! Yes, will keep you posted 👍
@@navyman8903
It's February, 20th just retrieved my hkp30l form the auction block for the second time, no less, at my local gun shop and range. I literally walked into the shop, told the sales guy I wanted to shoot my p30l one more time. He's like , yeah no problem. It was due to go on gun broker today. I take it to the range and after shooting about 4mags, I said, I gotta keep this thing I'm my life 👍and I take her home 🥰 what can I say, it's never too late for a happy childhood. Next conquest is a hk usp compact 9mm v7 ...
The P30L is also criminally underrated as a suppressor host. of all the handguns I own with a threaded barrel it's easily the quietest and least gassy. I hope your experience will be similar when you get your handgun can so you'll love and appreciate the P30L even more.
I hope so too and I can't wait
a better host than the p226?
@@Kevinj36541 yes. It's not a night and day difference. More like a night and twilight difference. Noticeable but not a practical difference.
Have you tried the regular P30? It would be a nicer package if it's just as quiet but shorter.
@@justinkase1360 not suppressed.
Absolutely love the P30 series! I carry the P30SK on the regular and it’s hands down a better shooter than anything in its size class. DA/SA for safety factor and versatility, and incredibly well built and accurate.
Hey I am on the brink of buying a p30sk v3 against a sigp365xl, I am just struggling to make a decision because the sig is ofcourse the same size AND THINNER...but I do love SA/DA
Do you find its easy to carry? Being a small guy I am worried it will be too big on me
@@DavidMilesMusic I carry 3:30 IWB, and can conceal it under a t-shirt relatively easily. It is thicker, but shoots more like a full size pistol than a subcompact (if you haven’t gotten a chance to shoot one yet)
I cut out at 2.22…sorry man, but this is terrible. But rest assured-I DO love the P30!
I have two HK P30s, The P30L 9mm and the P30S V3 in 40 s&w. Both are great shooting pistols and at the top of my EDC rotation. I love the decocker and since I'm a lefty, ambidextrous controls are great for me.
Bought my p30l with the de cocker on the rear after seeing this video. I love it, it’s my first pistol
Glad to gear it. They're great guns.
Any suggestions for the trigger upgrade? I don’t want to lower the trigger pull weight, but want to improve the trigger travel length
Great video I enjoyed this video. Your p30L Variants are nice. I have the variant 3 version it looks like you have the variant 1’s which are nice as well
Even with my super skinny fingers I still find myself annoyed by the safety location on the p30 series, still my absolute favorite polymer frame 9mm series. Thanks Navyman.
It's a great gun honestly, I really love them both. The P30L just a little more than the P30, but I run them both well. Thanks for watching.
I bought a P30 v3 a couple of months ago and I really like it. My other two HK's are .40s but my P30 is in 9mm, I leave all my guns stock and just learn to shoot them like they are. I have really grown to like my P30. My Glocks would still be my choice if I could only have one but I really like my Hk's my Walthers and my CZ's too. A lot of good guns on the market these days and I think Glock is in a lot of ways responsible.
I really do love my P30s and plan to add more. The Glocks are great for what they are. They're not earth shaking. But they're really good at what they do. The availability of parts is also very solid. But I still love the smoothness and quality of the HKs over the glocks. But I own both.
@@navyman8903 I don't know if you have ever tried a Beretta PX4 storm. Its a gun I ignored for a long time. I recently, about two months ago, picked up one in .40. I have been extremely surprised by how well it shoots and how much I like it. I have been carrying it and shooting it a lot lately. Very nice weapon, try one out if you get an opportunity.
I have a H&K P30L LE V1 LEM, P30SK LE V3, H&K VP9SK LE, and a VP9 LE. The hardest issue I had for the longest time was finding light bearing holsters. I had a heck of a time finding holsters in general for the H&K P30 series. Plus side, my magazines are compatible so I have a ton.
I have a few holsters I'm look Iooking at. I know I'm taking my sweet time getting them but I'll let everyone know if they're good to go.
I like Badger Concealment for my P30’s.
@@rjo8500 to be fair, I bought my P30L 6 years ago and even online I couldn't find a decent iwb or owb holster. I found one iwb, non light bearing, at a mom and pop gun shop like 50 miles away. It's garbage. The market is waaaaay better now for some strange reason. I just started running G19s/G17s, VP9s and Sigs because holsters were easily found and plentiful.
2A Michael J My only two complaints with HK, pricey magazines and a poor selection when it comes to holsters. But the guns are beyond great.
RDR GEAR for HK holsters
I own both P-30V3 And P-30V1 Lem in .40 great Guns the trigger gets jerky but I adapt to it for many years
Nice review! I'll get a P30 L one of these days.
Thanks for watching and I support your life choices.
I got my first HK last week, it arrives tomorrow. I can’t wait!!! P30L
Excellent choice! Let me know how you like it.
@@navyman8903 man this gun is so beautiful 😍 I think I’m gonna take it tomorrow to the range. Let’s see how it shoot
I just recently bought the P 30L, having a very hard time finding a holster can you recommend something? What do you use? I just recently bought the P 30 L and I’m having a very hard time finding a holster a good holster. Can you recommend something? What do you use to carry it?please
I got a p30 v3 a few years ago, I had some trouble with the trigger, so i got the gray guns short reset system. I shot it a few times after that and I just couldn't get used to it. maybe i gave up too early. but now it just sits, and i will take it out to admire the craftsmanship every so often, but i mostly just shoot and carry my soul-less M&P9. The P30 is a real tank though and I think it doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
The P30 series gets a little more love than the P2000 series, but not much honestly. They both get ignored. Which is a shame because the P30 series does a lot well.
I'm sorry, I sold my P30! I am however, about to pick up a P30L. Both Gun are in the LEM configuration. I can't wait to get it!
Question. I've a P30L v1. Do you recommend a quality IWB holster appendix carry that doesn't marr up the finish? If money isn't an jssue...?
The G code INCOG hasn't been too terrible on my P30's finish honestly. That's what I use/recommend.
I carry the HK P30 V3 .40 cal in my purse, and the HK P30L V3 9mm is always in my center console, in case I just take my wallet and keys with me instead of my purse. I have an HK MR762A1 for at home defense.
I also have a Canik TP9SFX. I bought that for the range, but I have not used it yet.
I hope you have lightweight varmint loads in that rifle. Federal has one with 110 grain rapid expansion bullet. It launches at 3300 fps (box). I've seen it tested. WOW!
sk and L here, V3 NS, stock. All good. Thanks, excellent as usual.
Both great choices.
I personally try to put as many clients into HKs as possible. Trigger options, great finish, fit your hand vastly better, great sights out of the box, reliability and quick/ease of resale if your thinking of stepping away from HK. Proportionally, I think the best is the P30L, so many of my clients either get one of those or a HK45.
Completely agree. They're great guns with adherence to quality/engineering standards. More so than most companies. I've found a consistent level of quality and reliability with HK.
What grip configuration Do you run (side panels, back strap)? I struggle with my grip breaking after each shot and I am Gripping with my support hand pretty firmly so I'm thinking maybe it's my frame set up. You shoot this Thing pretty flat so any tips would be great. Thanks!
Whatever combo you want to use. On the P30 series the medium all the way around works best for me. But I encourage you to set it up how it best fits you.
I love HK videos. And the P30 is one that I went crazy with, buying the P30, P30L and P30sk and getting the short reset in ‘em. The ergo’s are fantastic. Even with the flat trigger and gray guns short reset, it’s not the best trigger. But I still LOVE it.
I did the same thing, the HK P30 trifect, except mine have a safety. I also added a HK 45.
@@preacherman85379 Awesome. I just got one of my P30’s back from Lazy Wolf and the trigger is SOOO good.
Love my P30's (V1), my go-to side arm and carry. I'm about to send a P30 out to get an optics cut at Wright Armory with the i-dot system for an Acro. If I like it the P30L is next (rmr or acro🤷🏾♂️)
Let me know how it goes if you don't mind.
@@navyman8903 indeed.
Can't wait to see thr video on Daniel Defenses recent marketing strategy.
IT's a weird as shit case honestly. I'm glad I waited because I initially laid out proper response before I saw the timeline. I can't defend the local PD or SWAT's actions. Absolute ass. I'm also not a fan of how that Buffalo guy was groomed.......I mean....situation went. But you know. Lots of things happening that don't make sense. Reminds me of Vegas.
What holster do u have once P-30? Thanks
Your laugh kills me!
I like the idea of the manual safety as a gas pedal to put my thumb so I don't keep hitting the slide release like I did with my vp9 constantly. May pick up a p30LS
I tried several guns before deciding what to buy (It's the advice I always give to any newcomer like me) NONE of the ones I tried fits me as well as the P30 series (Like all of them) It just fits easy in my hands, shoots great, and it may be subjective, but I find myself shooting better groups and controlling it better than any other gun, even after having tried others after I settled for the P30 series.
very yes
Much agree.
Commander size pistols really are my favorites, P30, M18, Glock 19x. Need a Beretta 92x Centurion. Favorite full 🤔... HK45.
That's a good list all the way around.
What holster brand is that? I’ve been using a Kydex with mine and I’m already noticing a lot of wear on the p30l
That holster is a G Code incog which they are about to discontinue. They're on sale if they still have them.
Ended up getting an rmr cut and Gray Guns trigger on my p30 and dremmeled down the slide release since it would never lock open on empty. It's now perfect. It's also double the price than it would have been.
Sounds like a cool setup.
I think you can swap out the slide release for the shorter one that’s used on the ones with the safety id I’m not mistaken? They look the same just shorter. As long as the catch is in the same place I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.
@@DIYDad1 it was actually the shorter one that I dremmeled down lol. It was still catching on my thumb. Depending on your grip, but I have a thumbs forward inward twist grip if that makes any sense. So my off hand thumb is fairly engaged and my dominant hand thumb now just barely touches the edge of the slide release. Haven't had any issues now.
@@Irradiated316 ah I see. Yeah I’ll have to try and order a shorter slide release and see if that fixes it. I just got mine a few weeks ago so I’m still trying to work out my grip and see what works best for it. I’ve been canting my support hand down more and trying to consciously rest my thumb right on the ledge for the pic rail out front there’s a little bump out so I kind of have an index point for my thumb. Fixed it most of the time but if I’m not really concentrating on my grip it won’t lock back. It’s weird I don’t have that problem on my Walther which has an equally long slide release but the lever rides up higher in the frame just enough that it doesn’t interfere for me. Just going to take a bit of training I suppose. I’ll get used to it after a couple more range sessions hopefully! Still a great gun that’s really all I can knock it for right now lol. That and it seems my point of aim / point of impact is high for whatever reason. I have 1/3rd ipsc steel targets where I shoot and at 7 yards or so I’ve been missing more than I’d like to.
That LEM trigger though 👌
@@DIYDad1 I tried to train around it, but after shooting the glock and Beretta for so long, I always naturally choked back up. So the dremmel made an appearance, still sanded it down and cerakoted/easy bake ovened it to make it look nice. I honestly wouldn't have done so much work to the p30 if it wasn't such a joy to shoot. I went with the da/sa personally. I was always used to the Beretta, and have never actually tried the lem.
Alright I have a dilemma and I think you’re the best person to ask. I’m gonna be getting a p30 variant for aiwb conceal carry. I run a tlr1 on everything I carry. P30 seems to be best bet. So I’m stuck between p30 and p30l. 1.) Since I run a tlr1 the holster is already longer than the gun, so should I just get a p30l to conceal instead of the p30 since the holster will be already longer? 2.) Does a p30 with tlr1 holster work for a p30l with tlr1?
If you get the holster for the P30L then the standard P30 will fit just fine because of how the gun is built. HK just made the slide and dustcover/pic rail longer. So the lockup will be on the same contact points. The P30L is a very solid carry gun because even with 17+1 and a light it's not too heavy. The P30 is a great carry piece without or with a TLR7 style light. But with a Surefire or Streamlight, the P30L and P30L holster is the way to go.
@@navyman8903 You’re the man🫡
The P30L was recently added to my edc after my p365 had some failures to go into battery at the range. The range I was at looks a lot like the one in your vid...jst wish they would do something to keep the bays from flooding constantly.
My next purchase is going to be a P30L. I love them, but not as much as my 45c haha
I support your life choices.
Question.. have you ever shot in the p30 but in .40 S&W
NM! I love your love for the HKs just like me! 👍 Where did you get that holster and those mag carriers from? I need those for my HK P30. 😎
They're G Code INCOG, you might still be able to get them through G Code, but they're moving production over to Safariland.
@@navyman8903 Thanks! 😎
Do you find you can run your P30L as fast as glocks? I love the ergos of the P30 and I miss shooting hammer fired guns, but it may be a deal breaker if I feel like I can’t run it as fast as a G17.
I think I'm on equal footing honestly. I can try to do some drills to check.
@@navyman8903 thanks for the quick response! Your videos are very informative and make up like 90% of the P30 content on CZcams lol. No need to run drills, I’m not a competitive shooter so I don’t care about small fractions of a second difference in split times. More so just curious if the trigger reset distance on the P30L (specifically the V3) makes it feel like you’re held back compared to the relatively short reset of Glock triggers. Any reliability concerns with the P30L vs the 17? I know HK makes virtually bombproof guns but I’m curious about how sensitive they are to limp wrist, weaker target ammo, etc. You mentioned they’re oversprung so I assume that may cause some issues during the first couple hundred rounds but shouldn’t be a problem after that?
If you had to pick just one, would you suggest a P30SK, P30 or P2000 for EDC?
For me, the P30 because of all of the features, 2nd place would be the P2000.
Love H&K and p30 is an excellent carry as long as you practice often, as you pointed out. V3 is nice but as the degenerative effects of aging have finally caught up with me, the LEM has allowed me to adapt and maintain my ability to effectively shoot like days gone by. It has been years since we exchanged emails and magazines my friend, and although I very seldom come on you tube anymore, it’s always nice to find one of your videos in my suggested posts.
Hi Navy man, love your channel.
I am a HK P30L fan boy as I think they do all things well (reliable, durable, accurate, and look cool). However I am having difficulty finding a conceal carry holster for it that I like (has to have the gun sit deep in it and cover the entire trigger guard.
Having said that yours looks like exactly what I am looking for. What brand and model is it.
G code INCOG.
@@navyman8903 Thanks mate!
Can you do a video on your carry setup for your hk45? I've been looking for holsters for mine
See what I can do.
HK please make a 10mm pistol
Doubtful. They cater to militaries. None utilize 10mm as far as I know.
Can you demonstrate a real time magazine change with the euro trigger release?
I've got a bunch throughout my videos. Including the shooting montage in this video. But I might be able to put something together.
Have you tired a Glock 19x yet? I know you’ve mentioned trying out a g45. But it seems a lot of people like the gen 4.5 characteristics of the 19x significantly more. I’ve handled both back to back and I generally understand where most of them are coming
I shot one forever ago in Texas but I'll have to do it again. I recently shot a G45 and it was alright but it had the trash tier plastic sights.
I love all the controls on my P30 except the double action trigger pull. It makes me feel like a whiny baby when I can’t hit anything with my first shot. The double action trigger pull is so heavy I end up pulling most of my double action shots. The trigger on my Ruger GP100 is; smoother, more even and lighter in double action. What’s weird is that I didn’t notice it when I first started shooting it. I only have shot a few hundred rounds of 40cal through it. Maybe the trigger will get better?
I hope your Memorial Day is as good as it can be. I’ll be remembering my dad who taught me to shoot. He flew over the Pacific and back as a medic on the P3 Orion and then cared for Marines returning to San Francisco Naval hospital. He inspired me to become an EMT.
May he rest easy knowing he raised you well.
As for the P30 I just had to run DA shots a lot to get used to it. Once you get there you're good to go. It takes some time and ammo. But the more you run it the easier it gets.
@@navyman8903 thank you. I’m going to keep working the trigger. Maybe a bunch of dry fire too. It is the ideal carry size for me (big guy). Like you mentioned the grip height is just enough for my whole hand but no more.
The real trouble is I’m carrying the LTT Elite full size while I work on marksmanship with the P30. When I shoot the LTT I end up aiming for the numbers because they are smaller than the bullseye!
I will work on it. That’s a promise!
@@beyproctor7673 The LTT can be cheating sometimes with that trigger. Even in DA it's so smooth.
The thing about the p30l is, the more I shoot it, the more I really like it and get it, about this gun.
I carry the exact same P30LS (and ive owned 26 different pistols over the past decade, i tend to buy/sell/trade-up a lot, lol). I prefer 1911s and own a Kimber and SIG and they are great, but this P30LS is fuckin' fantastic, and all my SK holsters work for it, IWB and OWB, even a few other holsters for a SIG P220 Carry.
He descubierto este canal hace unos pocos días, y debo decirte, sinceramente, que cada vez emites criterios caen al suelo perlas de sabiduría hahaha, te felicito mucho!
Será posible que puedas hacer algunos videos (a menos que los tengas pero no los he encontrado) en donde muestres a la cámara, como se ve tu Concealed carry? porque sin haber visto tu discurso y explicación, yo había llegado a la conclusión que la mejor arma de portación es una full size y quiero hacerlo yo mismo, eso sí, con armas de acero, quiero llevar una 1911 comander 45 acp y una Sarsilmaz (cz 75 clon) de 9mm, esto por el tema de capacidad (16+1)
Saludos y gracias !
So I noticed that you have stuck with the P30LS v3 as your P30L variant of choice. Is there a particular reason you didn’t pick the non-safety version? I remember a while back you mentioned on one of your vids you prefer guns to not have a safety. Just asking because I am about to buy one and curious on your take of which version of the DA/SA variants to choose.
I actually prefer the non safety version and CCW a standard P30 non safety. I just haven't hit the funds available for a V3 when their in stock periodicity its just yet.
Not sure if was mentioned and I missed it but what holster is that? And does it fit your P30L? Thanks in advance!
I was wondering the same thing.
that's a Big Ass Gun for Carry! I am interested in an HK. I just don't know which one. maybe the VP9 SK.
It's honestly not that bad at all and it's very shootable with the full grip. But you have to get something that works for you.
If im not mistaken, H&K makes it so you can take off the safety if you have a safety version and add it if you have a non-safety version.
No it's the opposite. If you have a safety version on the P30 series you're stuck with it. If you have a non safety version you're also stuck with it. The USP's and HK45's can do that, but not the P30 or P2000 series. But the P2000 doesn't have a safety variant.
What holster is that? I literally just got an Odin holster for the p30L but that thing looks nice.
G Code Incog. IT's a great holster, it's actually for an SK but the P30 fits and works just fine.
@@navyman8903 I gotta take I look that thing looks slick as hell like even suit worthy. 👌🏻
Lol. The battle scene in the beginning
Glad someone appreciated it.
I got a P30 LEM and considering shipping it to Lazy Wolf to do a trigger reset job on it. You have any experience with Lazy Wolf?
I don't have direct experience with him, but he's good to go. Lots of satisfied customers on the forum.
@@navyman8903 The only issue I have with the P30 is the reset. Trying to figure out if $500 if Lazy Wolf trigger job is best or just get the gray guns short reset installed. Love all the HK content. Bought my VP9 in large part because of your review.
@@BPFnSC it's one of those things you hate to pay for but once you have, if it's done right you'll forget what you spent on it.
I sent my USP 9mm In & he did a great job. He converted it to a LEM also besides the MRAP.
Hey brother, have you done any videos with those pistols using a "can?"
I don't, but my buddy Gun Dae sure does: czcams.com/video/cVF4gV8i8WI/video.html
Would anybody recommend this for a first gun? I’ve never shot a gun at the range or carried one before so this would be my first experience with a firearm. I’m looking into getting just one nice do it all pistol.
I would recommend the P30L over the P30 for a do it all pistol. But both will do a solid job.
I love carrying the P30LS with grayguns srt I’ve had an sk and p2000 v2 lem .40 (got it super cheap and the P30LS both under $600 new, got lucky and a veteran discount) anyway if I knew what I know now and hadn’t had financial problems I would have switched the p2000 to v1 lem and grayguns lem mods on it assuming they would work on the p2000. And would never have sold the SK (I admit I prefer a ruger LCR or smith ez shield for smaller carry)
Anyway I prefer hammer fired guns so the P30LS is perfect. That said I plan on getting a p30 v1 lem with grayguns when I can.
I just want to add to anyone who maybe misses an m9/92, is on a budget and wants a 1911, great glock clone or fantastic beretta clone and can’t afford the second two (tried the clones next to the real things and holy shit they were great) the Girsan beretta clone and Glock clones are amazing for the price the Glock clones mimic my beloved gen 3 Glocks and the beretta clones and 1911s come with a lot for $4-500.
Just wanted to throw that out there for anyone on a budget or who’s had to say goodbye to their old favorites or first pistol (m9 for me)
Anyway for my money the P30LS is about as good as it gets since I enjoy da/sa and SAO carry, all the stages available technically
Also the vp9 > Glock for me but the EZ Shield > Glock 19 since I don’t need a billion rounds when carrying 10-15+1 is enough (with extensions for the 15+1) with my arthritic hands that single stack feel same with a 9mm 1911 or ruger LCR just feels great
Double stack wise a SIG p220 carry or 229 with the better grips are nearly as comfortable as the HK which is unparalleled for the grips having 27 different ways to configure (talking p30/vp9, the hk45 doesn’t have that option buuut the hk45 c feels great. I got a USPc .45 I’d almost consider trading in for the 45c. But a USP to me is something you don’t get rid of lol)
Honest outlaw has some great vids on all of this I’d recommend checking them out
For people curious about the lem Colon Noirs p30 grayguns vid (just type that into the search engine) and Sean Burrows Hk lem video both cover it about as well as it can and holy shit Noirs grayguns lem p30L got decked out so nice by…. Shit i forgot the name but they are located where I live in Salt Lake City which is kinda an unofficial HK hot zone. Hkparts.net is right down the street from me and the highway patrol used to carry the Hk p7 which is my favorite striker fired pistol
If I was going to carry any of my HK's it would be the 45C, as my beloved P30 SK is almost the same size but is not a 45..lol
Finally ordered a p30L. Any recommendations on an iwb gun holster?
If you get a G code incog for a P30 it will fit the P30L but it will stick out a little. You can also look at a PHLSTR holster.
Thanks for the recommendations. I appreciate it
I always really liked my hks but now that the Walther PDP exists, it just steals all desires away haha
I haven't run one yet, but I'm looking into it.
@@navyman8903 it's pretty fantastic.. finally dethroned my 509 as my go to
If it’s as good as my PPQ it’s a good gun. It’s weird I keep going back and forth and been giving my P30sk a lot of love lately but when it comes to striker fired Walther is hard to beat. I’d say they are a little nicer than the VP9, just slightly better controls IMO, the slide release doesn’t get in the way as much. But both excellent.
@@DIYDad1 the PDP is horrible. Once you take it to the range, you will be so spoiled you will need to buy a whole new set of mags and holsters, and never be able to happily shoot another polymer gun again haha.
No but really.. it's noticeably better than any other polymer pistol currently on the market, by a large margin compared to most.
And they just fixed the optic plate lug controversy by adding lugs even though it never needed them 😁
@@maximusjoseppi5904 lol that’s the problem I fear is that I’d like it too much 😆. I hear a lot of gun youtubers talking it up like it’s the hottest thing ever which makes me pause for a minute considering the PPQ got almost NO love for the longest times. One of the best kept secrets in handguns if you ask me. My PPQ Q5 match is a freaking tac driver. I can hit a steel plate at 100 yards without even trying. I handed it to a friend that never shot mine before and he hit the steel at the same distance on the first shot. It’s a real snipers pistol if there ever was one.
Now I want to pick up a p30
I would support this life choice.
If only HK would make a USP 10mm
What kind of holster are you using? Thanks
G code incog in this video specifically. I have a safari land 6004 for my HK45 that I run my P30s and HK45s in.
@@navyman8903 Thank you sir.
Did you know? The end of the hammer is made from plastic!
I own the P30L and was surprised, when I discovered it. By the way, really great gun!
I hate striker fired gun, that's why for me the P30 are one of the best guns available today.
Love the p30 guns. My only gripe is that the p30 is a commander style pistol and i will never understand the appeal of them. I would have liked the p30 to have been an actual compact. It’s just a full size pistol with a barrel chop.
@@TYMGhosT agreed. I prefer the P30L for sure, but I can't argue with the results and performance I get out of the P30.
Bought a p30 off your recommendation and it’s been four years of awesomeness. I wonder though if HK is going to get on that slim line train in the micro compact 9 mm any thoughts?
I'm not sure they're ever going to honestly. There were rumors but I never saw anything to be honest with you.
@@navyman8903 a slim lime P30 or VP9 would be ideal deep conceal carry
They have one coming out shortly. The specs and pics are already been released
@@johndel1971able where did you see that?
@@kevincunningham7334 I'm subscribed to the HK forum on reddit and it came out a couple of days ago on there. There's specs and pics of it. If you can't find it I'll try and send you a link for it so let me know bud.
GreyGuns base plate is +1. ProTip!
I'll check it out.
I liked my P30 V3. I shot it really well. However I wanted to carry it appendix and I just couldn’t do it. I ended up trading it in towards a P30SK V1 and I’m happier. Anyways good video.
Thanks and honestly the P30sk is a great gun, and will obviously carry better. But it's just too small a package for me at the end of the day for most things.
NAVYMAN8903 I get it. We all have our own comfort level for what is tactically acceptable. Funny thing is, where I reside in South Florida most everyone in my gun circle says I’m nuts for carrying that chunky, heavy P30SK!
what holster is that for the p30? I like
G Code incog.
P30L is a nice firearm. Rock solid, no doubt. I find the v3 reset way too long and after reset the wall way too light. Not ideal for ccw IMO.
It's definitely not for everyone and I accept that. It works for me, so i run it. But I completely get people not liking some of the trigger features.
Did you put the GG short reset in all your p30s?
Just the P30LS, the standard P30 is 100% stock.