The P30sk is my primary carry piece. Perfect balance of size, concealability, felt recoil, and next level quality. I do like my P365X as well but it’s my #2.
I've owned a P30 for a long time and it's one of my favorite guns. It is a bit chunky for conceal carry especially in AZ where I usually wear gym shorts during summer. I recently got a Sig P365XL which is a lot easier to conceal and isn't a bad shooter. I like both guns each is appropriate for different types of weather.
I generally prefer SIG. But not this time!! The P30SK is a SUPERIOR pistol with inferior aftermarket support. In comparison, the P365 is an INFERIOR pistol with superior aftermarket support. The P30SK is a military pistol that is factory tested out to 25 yards The P365 is not a military pistol and IS NOT factory tested to 25 yards. If your life really depends upon it - choose the P30SK. If you just want to carry any old gun - choose the P365.
Oh the drama! Yes, so many self-defense scenarios at 25 yards……I own both of these, and they each have distinct strengths and weaknesses. Your final conclusion is just silly.
Both are top notch imo. If possible...pick up both. I really like the P365 XL. It is hard to beat a DA/SA for concealed carry, so the HK rocks in that regard.
Former Sig fanboi. Current HK fanatic. Also, there is a 20 round HK P30/VP9 factory mag that fits the P30SK/VP9SK though it hangs down a bit. Good vid, keep up the great work!
I carry versions of both of these pistols. They are both excellent, in very different ways. And, one cannot factually argue against the commercial success of the P365 series.
I got the vp9sk and I love how it’s completely ambidextrous and I can directly mount an optic without a plate adapter and co witness with the factory night sights
I Carry a p30sk and I Trust that gun 100%. Never have and issue with the gun. The thing a was a little unconfortable is the reset. So i got the Grays Guns Short Reset and The Flat trigger and its works fine and you can feel the difference.
I have the GG flat trigger on my P30 SK as well, and I am not a fan. The reset is great, but my finger slides down and rubs against the trigger guard, especially on the long DA pull, which makes it very uncomfortable.
I have both and my 365 has a holosun red dot I’ll take the hk any day of the week just more battle tested imo. With all the trouble sig has had with these models I just personally trust the hk more. Both are great though
You were right, I wasn't interested in comparison. However, I watched your interesting comparison and enjoyed it. I have a P365 with a 12 rd mag with mag sleeve. I also have the P30SK V3. Although I prefer to like the P230SK more, but like you, the P365 wins with its light weight weight and thinness. Both have been very reliable, with no issues. My P30SK V3 came with 2 13 rd mags and 1 15 rd mag. As a side note, for 4 o'clock CC, I prefer the shorter grip over the P365 with 12 rd. extension over the XL. I also picked up a p365-380 ACP and enjoy it with 380 +P ammo.
Awesome comparison. Been wanting to get a P30SK or P2000SK to replace my current carry but I keep on getting long guns instead lol heard from a few that the p2000 has a slightly better stock trigger
Here you are again. The p365 is only Sig you would use? Please explain to me in detail, you know, so I can learn something from you, what is the overreaching problem with the p200 series?
I carry the P30SK every day. I purchased an upgraded Optics Ready and Short Reset Trigger version through Langdon Tactical and it shoots great. I can shoot this pistol as accurately as the full-size pistols I own. I installed a Trijicon RMR to it and it is an amazing combination of gun and optics.
@@TheArkansasGunGuyI also have the GG flat trigger on the Langdon P30SK and I am not a fan. Reset is great. But on the long DA pull my finger slides down the flat trigger andreally rubs on the trigger guard, making it uncomfortable. The SA pull, though, is great.
@@darkcell06I went with the Sig, it's for carry, I currently also have a Beretta 92x RDO Compact for fall/winter carry, but I'm getting the "itch" for another pistol 😅.
I appreciate this video and have been looking for this comparison. I have a VP9 for IDPA (first gun) and I’m trying to decide between SK or P365XL with Wilson Combat Grip Module. Thank you.
I pocket carry my P365 with its external safety on. Shoots accurately and reliability & comes out of the pocket fairly easily. When I carry OWB I carry my tricked out P365XL with a Wilson Combat grip module, sandpaper Talon grips, Tactical trigger mod, 4.25" threaded SS True Precision barrel with a Lakeline mini comp. More power, better accuracy, easy shooting, competition tested.
I had just the opposite experience. I have learned the 2A/SA trigger cadence on my Beretta 92 FS. So although the Sig trigger is better. Love the flat triggers on Sigs, and yeah they are better, but I can rock a 2A/SA trigger and even the V3 (the LEM trigger is light and crisp) triggers smooth out when they wear in so I learned the V3 trigger which isn't as nice as the flat Sig trigger, but the V3 is smooth, just long with a ton of take up and a meh wall. The VP9 has a much better trigger. However I shoot the P30 much better than the P365 XL because the ergos are so much better and it stays planted in the hand. The P30/VP9 (almost the same) ergos are second to none to me (have both). I wear XL gloves so thin guns move around more in my hands. The P30 stays planted and on target. A better comparison is my P320c Pro with the flat trigger. It is thicker but I have a better time of it with the X-grip, which does have good ergos and I shoot it really well. A tad better than the P30sk because that Sig trigger is nice, but it is close. I will always carry the P30sk preferentially because the 2A/SA is safer and that gun carries OK in a good holster. The P365 has more horizontal stringing for me because my hands need more real estate. The P30 stays planted and I get a better grip on it than the P365XL which is narrower. BTW - my P320c Pro has never gone off by itself in two years of use and carry. Go figure. It is also a really good shooter and the trigger is 5 lbs. which is not too light, but I prefer 2A/SA for carry.
I have been an unwilling "Beta Tester" for SIG Sauer on the P320, P290 and the first generation P365. I'm 100% done with SIG Sauer. BTW the West German and Swiss guns are awesome.
I'll never carry a SIG polymer pistol. They beta tested on their customers. No way. I like their metal guns and, especially, their 1911s. Not a fan of striker-fired guns. I have several HK pistols. You need to practice a LOT. Striker-fired guns are almost like cheating with their light triggers. DA/SA will teach you how to be a better shooter, but you NEED to put the work in. I love my p30sk V3 (no manual safety). I'd never carry a P365. I'd carry ANY of my HKs. You do you. I don't judge. Don't judge me.
"They beta tested it on customers!!!!" Like the VP9 that was plagued with numerous problems at launch? Or S&W's M&P 10mm failure to feeds on launch? Or how about Glock's getting hung up from simply having a light attached? Yeah, only Sig does it. Right?
I carry both of these and own several more DA/SA’s. The reality is most shooters can’t or won’t put in the time to become proficient with the HK’s trigger. That, and a distinct advantage in size, weight, and price are why strikers now dominate the carry market.
@@Levi_The_Giant bro… please stop. Every gun manufacturer has issues and then there is SIG who has ten times more. Guns going blam left and right. Just because you drank their kool aid doesn’t mean you’re right. Go compare HK oopsies ALL TIME with just what sig has on their record in 4-5 years. Modern sigs are no where near the same quality as any HK firearm. Take a high round count class and watch it choke 🤣
As many have said, I own both. And because I'm a simple country lawyer, I asked myself just one question; If the time comes when drawing one of these two options can save lives then weight, carry comfort, and blah, blah, blah goes out the window. HK P30SK all day!
You have to be kidding me.there is no comparison.hk leaves sig in the dirt.sig sauer went downhill when the company became american.the only trustworthy guns from sig are the west german p226s and 220s.thats it
@pandemonikussupbus4590 I totally agree with you. Sig went downhill when they started making in the US. Hence why i just bought a HK P30sks V3. No regrets whatsoever. HK is full German and top notch.
Great comparison and review! I own both as well. HK may be a bit better quality but like you I find I shoot the P365 much better. Also the slimmer profile of the Sig makes it so much nicer to carry. Both great pistols. Best advice - try before you buy and get the one that you shoot best.
H&K USP Compact with LEM trigger is an awesome yet overlooked pistol
The P30sk is my primary carry piece. Perfect balance of size, concealability, felt recoil, and next level quality. I do like my P365X as well but it’s my #2.
I agree, I take a #2 almost every day and it's often in the shape of a P365X.
I've owned a P30 for a long time and it's one of my favorite guns. It is a bit chunky for conceal carry especially in AZ where I usually wear gym shorts during summer. I recently got a Sig P365XL which is a lot easier to conceal and isn't a bad shooter. I like both guns each is appropriate for different types of weather.
Loved your video. I'm a big HK P30 fan especially with the LEM trigger.
I generally prefer SIG.
But not this time!!
The P30SK is a SUPERIOR pistol with inferior aftermarket support.
In comparison, the P365 is an INFERIOR pistol with superior aftermarket support.
The P30SK is a military pistol that is factory tested out to 25 yards
The P365 is not a military pistol and IS NOT factory tested to 25 yards.
If your life really depends upon it - choose the P30SK.
If you just want to carry any old gun - choose the P365.
Oh the drama! Yes, so many self-defense scenarios at 25 yards……I own both of these, and they each have distinct strengths and weaknesses. Your final conclusion is just silly.
DA/SA of course.
Hey i actually was looking for this comparison! Thank you for the video big man 😊😊
Both are top notch imo. If possible...pick up both. I really like the P365 XL. It is hard to beat a DA/SA for concealed carry, so the HK rocks in that regard.
Former Sig fanboi. Current HK fanatic. Also, there is a 20 round HK P30/VP9 factory mag that fits the P30SK/VP9SK though it hangs down a bit. Good vid, keep up the great work!
I carry versions of both of these pistols. They are both excellent, in very different ways. And, one cannot factually argue against the commercial success of the P365 series.
Nice. Been looking for a video like this. Thanks.
I got the vp9sk and I love how it’s completely ambidextrous and I can directly mount an optic without a plate adapter and co witness with the factory night sights
I have both. I carry the Sig, it's the width for concealed use.
Great video! I still personally carry my USPC .40 I’ve had since 2001, but may give a p2000 a shot if I can find one
I Carry a p30sk and I Trust that gun 100%. Never have and issue with the gun. The thing a was a little unconfortable is the reset. So i got the Grays Guns Short Reset and The Flat trigger and its works fine and you can feel the difference.
I have the GG flat trigger on my P30 SK as well, and I am not a fan. The reset is great, but my finger slides down and rubs against the trigger guard, especially on the long DA pull, which makes it very uncomfortable.
I have both and my 365 has a holosun red dot I’ll take the hk any day of the week just more battle tested imo. With all the trouble sig has had with these models I just personally trust the hk more. Both are great though
p30sk is the way to go. love the hammer+decocker setup on this one.
VP9sk is my P365 killer...she even eats hollowpoints that the P365 will not.
You were right, I wasn't interested in comparison. However, I watched your interesting comparison and enjoyed it. I have a P365 with a 12 rd mag with mag sleeve. I also have the P30SK V3. Although I prefer to like the P230SK more, but like you, the P365 wins with its light weight weight and thinness. Both have been very reliable, with no issues. My P30SK V3 came with 2 13 rd mags and 1 15 rd mag. As a side note, for 4 o'clock CC, I prefer the shorter grip over the P365 with 12 rd. extension over the XL. I also picked up a p365-380 ACP and enjoy it with 380 +P ammo.
Awesome comparison. Been wanting to get a P30SK or P2000SK to replace my current carry but I keep on getting long guns instead lol heard from a few that the p2000 has a slightly better stock trigger
Try an HK with the LEM trigger. Night and day difference! LEM is where it’s at. 😊
100%
Shhhh 🤫 it’s already impossible to find them 🤣
@@TYMGhosT you’re not wrong! I waited on mine for 4 years.
I own both, and I love my p30sk, but I also have the greyguns flat trigger and springs on it.
The p365 is probably the only sig I would use. With that said p30 all day every day over the 365.
Here you are again. The p365 is only Sig you would use?
Please explain to me in detail, you know, so I can learn something from you, what is the overreaching problem with the p200 series?
I carry the P30SK every day. I purchased an upgraded Optics Ready and Short Reset Trigger version through Langdon Tactical and it shoots great. I can shoot this pistol as accurately as the full-size pistols I own. I installed a Trijicon RMR to it and it is an amazing combination of gun and optics.
Did you go with the flat trigger or keep the curved? I’ve been super curious about Gray Guns Flat trigger a short reset.
the Flat faced trigger is excellent
@@TheArkansasGunGuyI also have the GG flat trigger on the Langdon P30SK and I am not a fan. Reset is great. But on the long DA pull my finger slides down the flat trigger andreally rubs on the trigger guard, making it uncomfortable. The SA pull, though, is great.
I'm trying to decide between the XL and probably the VP9SK.... Thanks for the video!
Which one did you go with? I actually picked up a P30 SKS recently and it’s definitely chunky but very comfortable
@@darkcell06I went with the Sig, it's for carry, I currently also have a Beretta 92x RDO Compact for fall/winter carry, but I'm getting the "itch" for another pistol 😅.
@@steven3379 Nice! Yea I am always looking at new stuff or a new pistol lol.
That intro actually made me laugh out loud 😂
I appreciate this video and have been looking for this comparison. I have a VP9 for IDPA (first gun) and I’m trying to decide between SK or P365XL with Wilson Combat Grip Module. Thank you.
Thank YOU so much for watching!!!
I pocket carry my P365 with its external safety on. Shoots accurately and reliability & comes out of the pocket fairly easily. When I carry OWB I carry my tricked out P365XL with a Wilson Combat grip module, sandpaper Talon grips, Tactical trigger mod, 4.25" threaded SS True Precision barrel with a Lakeline mini comp. More power, better accuracy, easy shooting, competition tested.
I had just the opposite experience. I have learned the 2A/SA trigger cadence on my Beretta 92 FS. So although the Sig trigger is better. Love the flat triggers on Sigs, and yeah they are better, but I can rock a 2A/SA trigger and even the V3 (the LEM trigger is light and crisp) triggers smooth out when they wear in so I learned the V3 trigger which isn't as nice as the flat Sig trigger, but the V3 is smooth, just long with a ton of take up and a meh wall. The VP9 has a much better trigger. However I shoot the P30 much better than the P365 XL because the ergos are so much better and it stays planted in the hand. The P30/VP9 (almost the same) ergos are second to none to me (have both). I wear XL gloves so thin guns move around more in my hands. The P30 stays planted and on target. A better comparison is my P320c Pro with the flat trigger. It is thicker but I have a better time of it with the X-grip, which does have good ergos and I shoot it really well. A tad better than the P30sk because that Sig trigger is nice, but it is close. I will always carry the P30sk preferentially because the 2A/SA is safer and that gun carries OK in a good holster. The P365 has more horizontal stringing for me because my hands need more real estate. The P30 stays planted and I get a better grip on it than the P365XL which is narrower. BTW - my P320c Pro has never gone off by itself in two years of use and carry. Go figure. It is also a really good shooter and the trigger is 5 lbs. which is not too light, but I prefer 2A/SA for carry.
Amazing feedback. Thanks so much for sharing!!
HK.
I have been an unwilling "Beta Tester" for SIG Sauer on the P320, P290 and the first generation P365. I'm 100% done with SIG Sauer. BTW the West German and Swiss guns are awesome.
I'll never carry a SIG polymer pistol. They beta tested on their customers. No way. I like their metal guns and, especially, their 1911s. Not a fan of striker-fired guns. I have several HK pistols. You need to practice a LOT. Striker-fired guns are almost like cheating with their light triggers. DA/SA will teach you how to be a better shooter, but you NEED to put the work in. I love my p30sk V3 (no manual safety). I'd never carry a P365. I'd carry ANY of my HKs. You do you. I don't judge. Don't judge me.
"They beta tested it on customers!!!!"
Like the VP9 that was plagued with numerous problems at launch? Or S&W's M&P 10mm failure to feeds on launch? Or how about Glock's getting hung up from simply having a light attached?
Yeah, only Sig does it. Right?
DA/SA all day 💪🏽👍🏽
I carry both of these and own several more DA/SA’s. The reality is most shooters can’t or won’t put in the time to become proficient with the HK’s trigger. That, and a distinct advantage in size, weight, and price are why strikers now dominate the carry market.
@@Levi_The_Giant bro… please stop. Every gun manufacturer has issues and then there is SIG who has ten times more. Guns going blam left and right. Just because you drank their kool aid doesn’t mean you’re right. Go compare HK oopsies ALL TIME with just what sig has on their record in 4-5 years. Modern sigs are no where near the same quality as any HK firearm. Take a high round count class and watch it choke 🤣
I have both, enjoy both, but the HK feels better to carry.
As many have said, I own both. And because I'm a simple country lawyer, I asked myself just one question; If the time comes when drawing one of these two options can save lives then weight, carry comfort, and blah, blah, blah goes out the window.
HK P30SK all day!
HK
I believe the hk has lifetime warranty
You have to be kidding me.there is no comparison.hk leaves sig in the dirt.sig sauer went downhill when the company became american.the only trustworthy guns from sig are the west german p226s and 220s.thats it
@pandemonikussupbus4590 I totally agree with you. Sig went downhill when they started making in the US. Hence why i just bought a HK P30sks V3. No regrets whatsoever. HK is full German and top notch.
Great comparison and review! I own both as well. HK may be a bit better quality but like you I find I shoot the P365 much better. Also the slimmer profile of the Sig makes it so much nicer to carry. Both great pistols. Best advice - try before you buy and get the one that you shoot best.