In-depth Comparison: Sony WH-1000Xm2 vs. Bowers & Wilkins PX
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- Top two ANC Bluetooth headphones go head to head. Can't go wrong with either, but I'd like to explain their differences.
Video Timeline:
Prices: 0:09
Design: 0:23
Build Quality: 1:01
Comfort: 3:11
Features: 6:01
Call Quality: 10:15
Audio Quality: 11:36
Sony WH-1000Xm2 vs. Bose QC35 II Clarification: 15:53
Conclusion: 17:35 - Věda a technologie
Video Timeline:
Prices: 0:09
Design: 0:23
Build Quality: 1:01
Comfort: 3:11
Features: 6:01
Call Quality: 10:15
Audio Quality: 11:36
Sony WH-1000Xm2 vs. Bose QC35 II Clarification: 15:53
Conclusion: 17:35
The Bose is a Beats on steroids. You cannot compare Sony to Bose for Audio Quality and now even for noise cancellation. Bose sound it is not neutral.. it is muffled like it is on the Beats.
That's your opinion. The Bose QC35 is a wonderful headphone just like the WH-1000Xm2 and PX are. Can't go wrong with either of the 3 in the long run.
TheGamingAudiophile have you seen the audio technica ath dsr9bt?
cesar contreras Yes, those seem interesting.
TheGamingAudiophile what do you think about the studio 3's by beats? Thinking of getting those. Nice video btw
Wow..I think this was the best video comparison I could find..really professional and exaustive!
I have both headphones, the Sony 1000mx3 and the B&W PX.
SOUND:
However, I intend to say that B&W has a
more intense bass, and Sony has a more BOOOMMM bass! Did I make myself understand?
After listening a techno music at high volume,
the results in my head were different:
With the Sony 1000mx3 I kept my head vibrating.
With the B&W PX I got my head to echo inside!
The B&W PX bass comes in inside the head,
and the Sony 1000mx3 vibrates the outside of the head.
Different results for different tastes.
I prefer the Bass of the B&W PX, more real and penetrating, like a punch in the head.
Sony sounds a little artificial.
In addition, the B&W PX volume is higher.
When it reaches the volume limit on the Sony 1000mx3, the B&W still has another 20% to add.
Without a doubt, the sound of the B&W PX is superior, more defined and more elegant.
I say this without any tendency, because I bought both.
Do not forget the following:
B&W is a company dedicated exclusively to sound, equipping high-end cars like Ferrari, BMW's etc.
Sony produces a wide variety of things, from mobile phones to microwaves. B&W is a lady of sound
quality, because she dedicates himself exclusively to this.
COMFORT:
With regard to comfort, the Sony 1000mx3 are more comfortable, nor giving almost by the presence of them in the head. 👍👍👍
However, while the B&W PXs are less comfortable, the ears stay free inside the earpiece, being cooler and not causing perspiration.
The Sony 1000mx3 ears do not have space inside the headphones, and make them perspire on hotter days.
Unsustainable in summer days, much less to walk down the street on sunny days. 👎
The quality of construction is top notch in the B&W PX. All in aluminum, and genuine leather. It costs € 400 in Europe but
pays for the elegance and quality of construction. 👍
The Sony 1000mx3 is all in plastic and synthetic skin. In Europe costs € 380, but it seems that we are buying plastic.👎
However the Sony are lighter and therefore more comfortable. 👍
NOISE CANCELLATION:
The Sony 1000mx3 has a perfect noise cancellation, it looks like you put your head inside a vacuum chamber. Perfect!
👍👍👍
The B&W PX though reasonable in noise cancellation, but are far from the Sony 1000mx3.
Android/ Apple APPLICATION:
With respect to the Android application to control the headphones, the Sony is perfect, as well as the indicator sounds in your own language.
The B&W PX are just beeps. 👎👎👎
The B&W PX application only serves to control the level of noise reduction (which is best to keep it OFF), and to control the system to pause the music when you remove the B&W PX from your ears (which works at 80%). The app for B&W PX is terribly basic 👎👎👎
CONCLUSION?
Comparing these headphones to a women, I would say:
That the Sony are that kind of woman, very
devoted to home and children, but a little less beautiful and more chubby.
The B&W PX is that a elegant woman, very pretty, but untidy woman at home.
So, if you prefer the ugly and dedicated woman at home, you will always look at the beautiful woman.
If you prefer the elegant and beautiful woman, you go and wash your dishes at home. You choose. 😁😁😎
I prefer the B&W PX,
although I know it does not have all those features that would do it great.
I'm more of a fan of B&W PX's aesthetic and sound elegance.
If you choose B&W PX you will make a good choice, but sacrificing some aspects of the Sony 1000mx3 that would make music even more enjoyable.
If you buy Sony, you're just one more who bought a headset for €350.
If you buy B & W, whoever watches you knows that you like not just music but sound quality.
Some of the "business" websites that do the comparatives, seem to give 100% preference to Sony, but gave me the impression of sponsorship by Sony.
😀😀😀
Because everyone knows Sony, and a lot of people have never heard of Bowers & Wilkins, only sound connoisseurs know it.
Thus, Sony is more mediated, and ends up having a control of public opinion, and obviously creates a subconscious tendency by Sony, even some of youtubers who make these comparatives
.
If you are young, and like techno, buy a Sony.
But if you are over 40 years old, and want to make up for the lack of youth with charm, buy B&W PX 😎👍 .
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Nuno Santos thanks so much for the real comparison, it’s really informative
Excellent review. I just love the way you present the pros and cons.
Great review! I'm glad you chose to compare these two! Excellent taste
Another great review. I'd like to see a 3 headphone or 4 shootout. The Bose, Sony,wilkens, Sennheiser's.....pro's and con's of all of them and what each 1 of them looks like on your head thanks you......
Thank you so much. There are so many reviews where people just say that all of those headphones are great, and your video really helped me. Thanks! Now I know what I want.
Thanks for the exhaustive and solid review. Was struggling between both and thanks to your review I could make a decision. I'll get the Sony pair since I was looking for headphones I could wear for a very long time comfortably and that had really good ANC.
Thank you sir. Wise choice for you needs!
Great comparison video!! Thank you!
I bought the Wilken's I do really like them. I have a small head so when I turn left and right the headphone's let in sound but they do sound really good. Love the design also. I also don't have issue's with them being uncomfortable and after a few day's the earpads became very comfortable.
Speedsk8r how are they now?If you've ever reached a point where they get uncomfortable, do you think that it would bother someone with more hair (long hair)? It seems like hair would add a bit of cushioning against the potentially uncomfortable band.
I bought the Bowers and Wilkins PX and decided to return them. They were the best sounding headphones I have ever used and the noise cancelling although not brilliant was good enough to remove the low rumbling sounds from public transport enabling me to listen to music comfortably including Beethoven, rock music, jazz and vocal music. However, they were uncomfortable with my glasses on and this was a real issue. I am going to try the Sony WH 1000x and see if I prefer them, otherwise I may end up buying another pair of the B and W PX
Great review
Great review, thank you!
Thank you for a very good review :)
ThankX buddy, This comparison is exactly what I was looking for... I bought the Bose 35 headphone 5 days ago and returned them the very next day. They gave me serious hotspots on the top of my head and ears. I have been using Bose for the past 15 years. The B&W headphones caught my attention and I am waiting for a call back from B&W. I want to see if they will give me a price break. I am a retired US Military pilot. I am extremely hard on two items, RayBan Aviator sunglasses, and Headphones.
After watching this video I have made my decision. (1) I am going to purchase today BOTH headsets. (2) If I find one that I like I will keep them if not I will just return both pair and keep searching. I do though lean toward the B&W. I am a BMW snob. I have had 4 BMW's in my life. I gave one BMW to my daughter and we now have 2, an older 325 and a new 528.
You have NOT heard a car stereo until you get into a BMS with a B&W Stereo system upgrade. The price is $4000 for the 1400 watt system. Next time you get the chance go to a BMW dealer and sit in a 2018 5 or 7 series and listen to the system. It will blow your mind. Nice back yard, open. I wish we had about 10 acres. Where r u located? Again thanks for the review BIG help
Mich B Sparta, NJ.
Did they give you a break?
@TheGamingAudiophile
Hey man, thank you for this video, this is very helping. Since I cannot try any of these cans nearby, could you please tell me what is in your opinion the better sounding between the sony and the wired B&W p7?
On which type of music do you judge these two headphones?
One thing to note though is that both of these support APTX HD codec, so the bluetooth sound improves significantly. Sony's 1000xM2 also supports LDAC which is pretty similar to APTX HD, but sony product only I think. Very much need to cover those features.
Hi, how do you rank the sound quality between these two headphones and B&O H9 with ANC turn on ? btw nice review. Keep it up !
John Doe I'd take the PX. The H9 doesn't have as good of ANC and the sound is too warm with less overall sense of clarity.
Another excellent and informative review.
I got the B&W PX a few weeks ago and absolutely love them, and also their luxurious design.
I found that the PX, didn’t become their very best until they had 30+ hours of running-in.
Perhaps you have a faulty pair of PX, with regards to the auto wear sensor, as I do not have the issues you mention.
TalsVids You may be right. I could maybe have a faulty unit, but alot of people have complained about this same issue. I'll wait 'till the first firmware is released. We'll see from there lol.
Got mine a few days ago and it is recommended that you play them for at least 100 hours for optimal sound quality. i love the design of the PX and it is totally worth the money! Hope you still love your pair!
Yeah still loving my pair. They definitely benefit from run-in time.
Fantastic!
TheGamingAudiophile I was thinking the same, I have the Sony’s, the studio 3 beats, the Bose quiet comfort, the jbl Everest 750, and the B.W, and by far the B.W are superior in every way as far as audio quality and build quality, haven’t had any of the censor issues.
Thanks for the video. Very helpful. In terms of portability when carrying in the case (and fitting in a smaller bag) how do the B&W, Sony and Bose compare?
bhav2k1 B&W is the worst in terms of the amount of space taken up inside your bag. Bose and Sony is roughly equal.
Hello i have the xm3'sthey are really really good in a lot of ways. I've had them for a few week's now and I can now give a honest review on them. I've have the Bowers and Wilken's Px's,Sennheiser px 550's and the parrot zik's and now these here. The build quality of them has gotten better from the last model mainly the fit. The noise cancelling is simply outstanding. The call quality isn't the best either. The sound signature on them is really good! My ear's did slightly sweat after a few hour's of wearing them though. These are The only headphone's I've ever owned that didn't cut out when I stepped into best buy! The touchpad you have to be precise with the gestures on it or you'll skip a song quite frequently. I also don't like the double tap to answer or pause you have to get that right to do either one of those. And other gripes are the long press of the power button on or off and that dang short ass charging cable they come with. It's like 2 or 3inches....
at this price, i would choose b&w over the competition...I'm very sensitive when it comes to comfort, but I had a pair that were uncomfy in the beggining, but because it wasn't memory foam, it actually softened up the clamping force and the pads to my head to create a perfect fit...i think these would do the same, heard stories that actually happens..but I can still return them after 2 weeks if that's not the case and go for bose q35 lol..
Thank you for the review; it's really helped me as I search for a solid pair of wireless headphones. How would you say each compares to the Sennheiser Momentum HD1/M2 Wireless?
I prefer both over the Momentum 2 Wireless and the rebranded version. Better ANC, clearer and more balanced sound and superior feature set.
Thanks! I'll consider selling my M2W if the PX ever drop to around the same price I got it at ($200 used)
I impulse purchased the B&W yesterday on Amazon's treasure truck, given that I plan on using them for composing music, I made a good choice.
My Hifiman HE-560s picks up every detail and background noise in your video XD I had to take them off multiple times to see if someone was mowing the lawn outside my house.
Is it normal for the PX‘s headband to look so „used“ (the leather) when everything else doesn‘t really (like the earcups for example)? My pair of PXs look exactly like in this video after just a couple of days of normal wearing. It‘s not really a problem - I was just wondering. Otherwise I love them to bits.
Would love to know how these compare to the Sennheiser PXC 550 or Sennheiser HD1 Headphones
If I don’t play music , the PX or the Sony have the best noise cancelling? I mean when they both are in the highest active noise cancelling.
Two of my favorites, I may get both
Which mic are you using so I can avoid it like the plague?
Besides that, great comparison.
Cyberion The microphone built into my Galaxy Note 8. Video was also shoot and edited with that phone. It was much louder in person than on video, surprisingly.
Cyberion
What was wrong with it? I assume you're referring to the wind noise.
Nothing wrong with it at all other than wind noise.
Great review thanks...will u review the Sony in ear full wireless headphones ?
Mpamphs Kangourosaurous Yes, in the near future.
TheGamingAudiophile Ok I have to wait your review before I buy...
TheGamingAudiophile Oh I would like your opinion ... I want to buy the best quality sound in ear wireless only for my Gym can u help me please? For now I use jbl reflect and platronics both are meh ...
Is there is a significant difference of the sound between the Sony and the PX ?
I tested the Sony 1000xm2 in a Store, the sound when nc off is great. But with nc on full the bass got boosted and felt to be real dull. I listen to rock and classical more than anything else, so really want to try the b&w px. I think I’m going to go back to the store and try the Sony again and change the profile.
just thought i would update. i ordered the bowers and wilkins which sound amazing for a pair of bluetooth headphones, the sound is very similar to my audio technica ath-m50x. if i was going for sound alone, then these would be the wireless cans i would recommend, yet if you want noise cancelling, i would recommend the sony. i am getting my sony wh 1000x through the post today, so will be able to adjust the eq and really try them.
for music listening i really don't think i will get the pleasure like i do with my audio technicas, but for sound cancelling they do a great job from my initial shop test.
will give them a fair trial, will leave them on the side playing music all day and night, then try them.
What was your source to listen to music? I 've tested the PX with an iPhone 7 with MP3 320 CBR (AAC) and an Astell & Kern AK70 with HiRes FLAC (aptX HD). The iPhone has a much more vivid sound, wider soundstage and the AK70 sounds like the treble is rolled off. I couldn't believe but the difference is huge.
Marius Lievense Galaxy Note 8 with AptX.
In the ANC tests on Jimsreviewroom review for those headphones speacks clearly, those are even better than Bose QC 35 and QC35 II, just jump to his channel for his video and his professional mics will let you know how the ANC and the sound qualty really goes.
I think you should also make comparison video between PX vs P7 Wireless, a lot of people which own P7 Wireless consider if they should upgrade or not. BTW which one is more comfortably?
Both are about the same in comfort. Decent at best. I will try to pick up a pair of P7W's.
Bowers and Wilkins PX if it is in office mode is it sound better than P7 wireless?
Then will you prefer the PX or the Sony wh-1000xm2?
For someone who absolutely don't care about NC, do you suggest p7w or px? Maybe a comparison video of these two?
sarath mohan Between the P7W and PX. On the PX, I hear a more spacious soundstage, better transparency across the board primarily in the midrange, a tighter and more balanced bass and a more agile and dynamic sound than that of the P7W. The P7W is still no slouch, but when you listen to the PX and get acclimated with its sound you'll notice the improvements Bowers & Wilkins have bought to the table.
If you don't care for money, get the PX. They offer phenomenal sound. If you want good bass and want to save some cash and also great sound, get the P7w's. The PX offer ANC which I think is a bonus.
Actually I don't want ANC at all. I want to be aware of my surroundings all the time. Also I have tried P7 . I am happy about the passive isolation it is offering. I was about to buy it actually. Then they offered PX . Now I am confused :D I can not find one to try.
sarath mohan The PX sounds the best with no ANC enabled. Both isolate roughly the same passively but the PX to me sounds a bit clearer and more balanced than the P7W.
Based on what you said .. Sennheiser's HD 660S. You literally forget you're wearing them (like a baseball hat) and you can hear everything around you. However, they're high Impedance 150 Ω so you'll need a DAC. For wireless the Sennheiser HD1, but like any closed headphones there's isolation.
Which of them are louder?
Great review. New subscriber here. Personnally looking at the price range, the build quality is more than a criteria. So I would go for the B&W. Also ANC is partially software treatment, we can hope they bring some improvement on that side of it.
MauOnline That's true.
MSR7 is more balanced and nuanced. You'll hear details and subtle layering of the sound easier with the MSR7. The PX is a warm and rich sort of syrupy sounding headphone that still has great layering and space. For commuting, the PX is the better headphone for most people thanks to the better noise isolation from ANC and the sound signature that plays well with masking environmental noises. For indoor listening, the MSR7 or Bose QC35 II sound clearer to my ears over the PX. I also love the QC35 II for outdoors usage as those have stunning ANC and comfort.
Hmm, that's going to be a hard one. I no longer have a current best.
Nice comparison. Keep it up man.
Thank you sir.
I I love my whs but i can still hear noises when I have noise canceling on so idk why it only drowns the noise but I love them
Remember bluedio vinyl plus!
They are not quite as neutral and clear as the Bose but the bass is much tighter and more in quantity, while the midrange is warm clear and fluid. IMO, they sound better than the Sony wh1000xm2. They are much louder and a little more clearer than the Sony’s with a tighter and better bass. Midrange is definitely better too.
With the cable (wired), they are peers to top $300-$400 headphones in sound quality. They give my fidelio x1 and NAD VISO HP50 a run for its money (wired mode of course).
Can’t wait for the new NAD VISO wireless to come out next month. Just hate the look of those headphones (same as the HP50s). But with unparalleled sound, I’ll maybe sacrifice looks I guess lol.
h1a8 Interesting. I'll see if I can pick up a pair this week.
Solid comparison, I got the chance to listen to both and your review is spot on on SQ PX wins hands-down but NC is not that great.
Do you think the ANC/Sound Quality issue can be solved with a firmware update along with the proximity sensor issues?
Rodney Terrell I hope, but I think it's possible that can be fixed in a software update.
Comfort always come first for me. Hence why the B&W is never a choice for me, is terrible for me. If I want best sound, I would rather get a wired headphone.
If I want ANC, either Sony or Bose for me.
Did you use LDAC with the Sony though?
Terence Tai No LDAC with the Sony's.
TheGamingAudiophile should give it a listen with Sony device or Android Oreo with LDAC enabled. Also a good recorded album in hires format is required.
Terence Tai I had the same issue. While the sound and quality of material was unmatched with the competition, comfort was the big issue and was the deal breaker . Ended up with PXC 550 as they have great deals on it and sound almost as good
Ashish Gugnani which headphones sound the best for HipHop closed back other than these two?
Maybe you have a big ear.
If Sony is wired, does it sound better than PX with office mode ?
What do you suggest to buy between the Beats Studio3, Bose QC35, Sony WH-1000xm2 and the Bowers & Wilkins PX? The most important things for me are sound quality and noise cancelling.
Erik Kollár I bought the Sony, using the app (recommended) sound awesome. My wife has the Bose but they lack that bass i was striving for. Without the fine tuning via the app, the Sonys are a bit light in the deep bass department.
Have the Sonys and Studio 3 in hand. The Sony’s are crisper with better mids but bulkier on head and leak 50% of the sound. No good for the office. The Beats are super comfy for me and have a tighter profile on my head so look better. The sound and noise cancelling is good enough with my 7+. They were cheaper as well with student discount. Waiting on my PX but I have a big head so concerned about fit.
Good review - the Bose QC 35 win on comfort especially on a long flight no headphone comes close for me - Sony unfortunately kill my ears with their tiny on ear pads and the B & W are too heavy. Looking forward to the best mix of all three headphones in the future..
Hey what music did you listen to to make you feel like the bowers sounded better than the Sony ? What about watching CZcams videos and movies?
Rico Suave I listen to Drum and bass, electronica, hip hop/ rap, RnB and jazz mostly. For watching videos and movies they both are great and offer excellent dialogue intelligibility.
Hi there - would you recommend the PX for gym or running
No, they are not stable enough on the head for gym use.
I have ALAC files I transfer onto my iPhone 7 for playback listening but I'm told Apple doesn't support LDAC/Hi-Res Music. What do you recommend for superior sound quality on my iPhone 7?
Drew M iOS devices are capable of AAC bluetooth streaming which is high quality when used with Apple Music or iTunes music files since they're streamed in AAC codec. If you're using ALAC files, your music will be transcoded to AAC prior to being sent to the headphones. The PX and WH-1000Xm2 both support AAC bluetooth transmission. Highest quality audio experience will be on the PX.
Love the new headphones
Good comparison!
Just one comment. You said that each was clearer than the other.
At 12:20 you say that Sony is clearer because of its treble. Then at 12:31 you say that the PX is clearer. I got a little confused.
I think you did this before in another video but can’t remember exactly.
h1a8 What I meant to say is at first listen, the Sony's will sound clearer because of their more present treble. However, with trained ears and knowing where to listen for, you'll notice the PX is clearer of the two.
TheGamingAudiophile ok. Now that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
To what degree will the WH 1000XM2's LDAC help them catch up to the B&W PX on an Android Oreo smartphone?
Adrian Roberts It won't help. There are physical design improvements that the PX has over the wh-1000xm2 a software enhancement cannot match.
Alright, thanks for replying and for the review!
How does the bass compare between the PX and the Sony (quality and quantity low and mid bass)?
And also between the PX and the Bose ?
Bass on the PX is the tightest of them all. The overall bass has great linearity with a tad bit of a subbass roll off. The Sony's are a bit more prominent in the subbass and also possess a great linearity in to the midrange. Mid-bass emphasis is the most apparent on the PX. The QC35 has the best subbass extension of the 3 with great linearity into the midrange. Quality wise, they are all well above average. The PX is the tightest and most agile sounding while the Bose covers a more of the spectrum with great linearity. Sony is more along the middle of the two.
TheGamingAudiophile
Ok thanks.
It seems that Sony has more mid bass than the Bose (I now have both). It has a thicker sound than the Bose.
Would you say that the overall quantity of bass of the qc35 is more than the Px?
If I have vmoda crossfade wireless and switch over to the 1000xm2 what will I notice different sound quality wise and comfort wise (ignoring the ANC) cant find anyone comparing these..
The 1000Xm2 sounds a bit more refined and significantly more balanced. Comfort wise, the stock pads on both leans me towards the Sony's more for comfort.
I find b&w very comfortable? Maybe its a head shape issue? As They certainly invested a lot of money, testing the PX, for comfort.
Ban Powel No, the PX are just not comfortable for most people. There’s countless people staying the PX are uncomfortable.
Hello, as the PX is out of stock I have tried to look for other headphones and I found a great deal for a new B&O H6 2nd generation(about 1/2 the price of the PX). How do these compare to the PX and which one would you recommend for bus/street ? (I have the amp/dac fiio e17k)
Well, the H6 2nd Gen will not be as enjoyable when in loud environments because the majority of its subtle details will be lost unless you crank the volume damaging your hearing overtime. In terms of sound, the H6 is very clean and clear with a lean sound signature. Bass as a slight emphasis in the subs region which is what I prefer. The PX on the other hand is similarly clean sounding, but with a warmer tone. Can't go wrong with either in terms of sound. However, the PX retains this sound when outside thanks to ANC. Also, bluetooth is far more convenient that lugging around extra hardware and wires.
Yeah true, I am a bit worried though about the pressure of the B&W especially since I have glasses, do you think it will be okay ?(unfortunately I can't test them) Is it possible to have a firmware update that corrects the city/plane anc problems ?
I finally bought them and they’re definitely worth it. Thanks for the review.
Great review, thanks. In my hunt it's now between the WH-1000Xm2 and the Bose QC3211. I'm so torn. I get significant ear pain with my current headphones, so comfort is huge. It would seem that the Bose win hands down in that area, but where it matters (sound and features,) Sony see to be far superior, but not very comfortable, in fact uncomfortable for extended use, and it's hot where I live!!.......ahhhhhhh brain overload....any advise for my final decision?
Colin Johnson Try the Sony at a retailer who offers a return policy. If those are too uncomfortable for you, return them and try the Bose. Lemme know how it goes!
PX , Sony , or Bose QC35 ii?
Anyone else have the issue that the right ear cup padding lessened at the top and bottom on the Sony 1000xm2?
Dare Devil I have not so far.
I chose the Bose QC35 II's over the B&W PX because I thought the Bose had more bass. You mentioned the bass in these but there was just no comparison to me. However, overall I liked everything about the B&W, but these were only tested while in the store comparing the two before making a purchase the following day after testing... I wish that I had an additional $400 dollars to play with in order to purchase the B&W PX's too.... 🤣 🤣 🤣. But maybe I'll be able to afford the next generation B&W with a tad more bass & noise cancellation features. I also think that if I bring another pair of headphones home, the Mrs. might not be too happy... 🤣 🤣 🤣. The salesman at the audio store where I go spoke of the QC35's noise canceling being better for airline traveling vs the PX... But like you said, it's all about personal preference. Great review.
Which would you recommend to a 1st time BT can buyer. I plan on making a purchase in 2 weeks with a budget of $400-$500. Right now my cans of choice are DT770 80ohms. I listen to jazz, Hip Hop, R&B and Rock ( RHCP, Nirvana, etc) My DAP will be the LG V30 with apt x HD Thanks in advance
Will you be in loud environments primarily with these headphones?
TheGamingAudiophile No not really just trying to be free of the wire and take advantage of the apt x HD. Mostly home, office and travel listening. I fly about twice a year.
Rodney Terrell The Bowers & Wilkins PX is probably best for you.
TheGamingAudiophile. 👌 thanks man Great vids
I've tried both. The PX over ANC when you need it and incredible sound. Build quality is exceptional and Bowers and Wilkins offers 2 year warranty. Sony only 1 and has issues with plastic headbands.
Holy shit, the audio quality on this video is so so good.
MrSpaghetti Hope that is ironic
Boss uv done a great review bt not much on sound for sony.sony is all round axcept for the plastic headband.now with sound sony got the app that is soo effective in custormising the type of sound u want with the genre of music u are playing.l have one and l wonder how sony has come come to perfection.that sony product is soo fantastic.
Followup: I finally purchased the Beats Special Edition headphones and paid $350 ish, I got a break on the final price I love the Beats.
New to high quality headphones. Are there wireless headphones around that price range without noise cancellation? I read noise cancellation reduces quality and I really dont need it wasting money on that feature.
The B&W PX with ANC disabled or ATH-DSR9BT.
Is there a noticeable difference in sound quality with the ATH over the PX?
Shizmoo ATH is more accurate overall while the PX is more dynamic and lively.
Why on earth does the BW not come with a hard case? They are expenive, and should be well protected when tucked away in a bag.
Wistbacka Agreed.
They are solidly built. I doubt that they would be easily damaged in normal use.
DIsmayedConfuse first of all, aluminum is very soft and will scratch easily.
Second of all, if you pay premium dollar for something, you expect premium protection and that the company itself would want to protect their customers product as well. Especially since all of their competitors provide a hard case.
I hardly think that $400 for headphones is much of a premium. Competitors at this price point make extensive use of plastic. And the outer surface is Aluminum Oxide, which is actually pretty damned durable. Most jet aircraft make extensive use of aluminum. And plastic scratches more easily. But, hey, if the case is a deal breaker, then buy Sony or Bose.
DIsmayedConfuse never said it was a deal breaker. It is just odd. The higher price, the weight, the lower comfort and lower ANC performance in combination is the dealbreaker when it comes to the B&Ws. Would just be better to get the B&W P7 at this point. Lighter and better audio.
Also, 400 dollars is very much a premium price for headphones. Sure there are even more expensive cans, but that doesnt take away from the fact that 400 dollars for one set of headphones is quite expensive. Few people on the whole pay much over 200 dollars (if even so much) for headphones.
I also thought at first that it is stupid to use plastic materials at this price range, but then I realized watching this video, that it is not good to make the headphones too heavy either. I have the 1000X, and they are borderline too heavy for long term comfort. I also tested the QC35 and PXC 550, and they are noticably lighter than the 1000X, even if it is a mere difference of 50 grams.
I prefer the sound quality on the sony. The adjustments that are available through the app are the best ive used. I will say i personally prefer a punchier sound and the b&w were too warm for me. Its all preference ofcourse
You prefer the sound signature of the Sony, the PX however has better sound "quality".
Is there any difference in sound quality between the mdr1000x and the wh-1000xm2? Should I update?
Aswin Crist Difference, if any, is miniscule. Not worth upgrading on sound alone.
TheGamingAudiophile ok thanks, what are the main differences in features?
whatever you tried to say about the left ear cup breaking the seal at 4:35 made absolutely no sense whatsoever.... what you said was "when I try to put my head on my seat when Im on the bus"... really not sure why you would put your head on your seat... Nevertheless, great comparison bro!!! Keep it UP!!!
I know I'm very late, but how is the noise leakage in the sonys?
NameNotAvailable Gaming They leak sounds when moderately loud or at max volume.
What's the leakage on the B&W?
DUDE IT'S NOT "BOWSER"!!!! IT'S NOT THE ENDBOSS IN MARIO WTF
reading is hard, nintendo is easy
is it true that sony cant be used just for anc, without listening to music, because they turn off after several mins for pwr comsumpn?
polkadotpuss They need to be connected to a Bluetooth source to have their ANC on without a power down. If you do not want to connect to a Bluetooth Source you can however plug-in the 3.5 mm cable and it will stay on and use the ANC.
How is px compared to momentum 2 wireless and h9? Sound quality, nothing else matters...
awdadw adwad PX sounds clearer and more spacious. They both have similar warmth.
PX, P7 wireless, Sony wh-1000xm2， Bose QC35 II, Can you put it in descending of the overall sound ?
Sarky Ho PX >= Bose QC35 II > P7 Wireless > WH1000xm2
TheGamingAudiophile Bose sound better than P7 wireless?
Treble and clarity is the most important thing for me. And I take public transit a lot.
Skywarp Channel WH-1000Xm2 would be a better option.
Thanks. Do you know when the WH-1000Xm2 was released?
The b&w PX needs a break in period of 30 hrs to get better sound quality
Budget is around 400-500 $ just want hight quality audio and best noise cancelling
Which should i go for ?
GP TRIKHA TRIKHA Sony WH-1000Xm2 if you prefer a warmer sound. Bose QC35 II if you prefer a more nuetral sound.
TheGamingAudiophile I tried both, as well as B&O H9 and Senn PXC 550...went with the PXC 550. The sensors on the PX drove me crazy, kept pausing the music every time I touched the headphones or adjusted my glasses. I felt the 550 were just about as comfy as the QC, but I felt the sound was better (better clarity, imaging, treble extension)
What about B&W px ?
Are they not comfortable?
Comfort is different from person to person, usually B&W's are really well designed though. You can always try them and send them back if you don't like them! :)
GP TRIKHA TRIKHA I agree with Elias, try them and send back it not satisfied. I the B&W make great products, and I really enjoyed the P7 (used to own). But the construction of the PX ear cups is very diff. That said, you might love them. I found them to be a bit rigid. Mostly the sensors that pause the music is what killed them for me (they pause constantly for no reason). But, again, give them a try. I will say sound quality of PX is top notch. NC, though, is kinda weak, and negatively impacts the sound.
For your everyday uses , which headphone do you use ?
Sarky Ho I alternate between the Bose QC35 II and B&W PX. No longer use the Sony's.
TheGamingAudiophile but can the Bose QC35 II use in hotter room and in Summer time , and don’t sweat ?
TheGamingAudiophile since I tried the Sony’s it make me sweat in 30 mins
How would you compare the b&w px with m&d mw60? Thanks
Peter Mekhail The PX is a superior headphone all around. Sound wise, the PX also has a more emotive sound with similar hard hitting dynamics.
TheGamingAudiophile thanks
Sony of the P7 wireless have better sounding ?
The same. Not worse not better
Does your headband creak? My left side headband has creaking sound
GAMINGwithJeff No, mines has not creaked.
I returned my wh1000x because it creaked. So annoying. Sony build quality is trash.
I am going for sony
For someone that takes public transportation what one would you prefer?
Bose QC35 II.
TheGamingAudiophile I'm assuming there the best at noise cancelation
Erislandy Valdez And sound quality.
Bw are a great headphone to and i love bw headphones . However i think the sony is better they have the best nc and the sound quality is for more better then the bw headphone. I go for the sony over the bw.
I’m struggling between these and the Bang and Olufsen H7. Which ones have the best sound quality?
Daniel rovira PX by far.
Thank you. Could you explain why they are better, as I can't find a review comparing these.
Daniel rovira H7 sounds too soft and bloomy. Details sound like they're behind a haze. Frequency balance favors the bass a bit and overall it covers a wide area of the entire spectrum. There is no ANC on the H7 coupled with the low volume output and already hazy presentation creates a recipe for disaster when outside.
Thank you. Ok, last question: Would you say the Bowers PX are better than the Bowers P7 wireless? I'm really interested in sound quality.
The PX are an improvement overall from the P7, but the P7 is still excellent in its own right. The PX improves in the bass and lower midrange portion of the P7. Also, the addition of ANC really makes the PX equipped for all scenarios.
I like the Bass Amount of the Sonys very much but the Bass bleeds in the Overall Soundquality, i cant recommend them because of that. Maybe the next Version.
The Sony headphones sound veiled. So I bought the B&W PXs. It wasn't even close!
What audiophile headphone and iems thatbyou have listen to?
A lot. Shure KSE1500, Shure SE846, Sennheiser IE800, Westone W60, Westone ES5, JH13 Pro, JH Audio Roxanne, Westome UM50, Westone W40, Westone W30, Shure SE535, VSonic GR7, FL8, etc...
TheGamingAudiophile well, then no doubt from me. Thanks man!
Is there a possibility wherein a driver was damaged due to headphone tests?
That is very rare. The driver was probably destined to fail due to manufacturing defect.
How is it in comparison to beoplay H9
John H9 while good doesn't have the ANC performance match the PX or WH-1000x.
I am really on fence now. I want the best possible sound, but I also need to listen and answer other people around me. I also need to pick up phone calls (quite often). I thought Sony would be the best, since I could use ambient mode, or cover the ear to hear what others are saying. However, you pointed out that Sony have mediocre call quality. B&W could be discomforting over longer periods and have no ambient mode... I was also considering Sennheiser Momentum 2.0, but they have NC always on (which I cannot use in my office). Any advice? Do Bose QC35 II have good mics for phone calls?
Tomas Kovac The PX do have ambient mode and multipoint Bluetooth connection so they would be excellent for your usage case. The comfort is the biggest doubt. I'd recommend trying the PX out and if they're too uncomfortable, send them back for a refund. The QC35 are also wonderful for calls along with their multipoint Bluetooth and very comfortable fit. However, they don't offer the same level of sound quality that the PX achieves. Being that you want the best sound, definitely give the PX a try. If that doesn't work out, the QC35 is the only best option I can recommend.
TheGamingAudiophile Thank you so much for all your care. Have you tried Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 (HD1) as a headset. How do they perform comparing to Sony, Bose, B&W? Now they are heavily discounted and many praise them for good sound and call quality...
The HD1 or Momentum 2.0 Wireless were very smooth and clean sounding. They were quite focused on the midrange with a steep roll off in the treble. In comparison to the new breed of top noise cancelling headphones, they can still hold their own but they will show their age. ANC wise, the Sony and Bose are superior, but the HD1 still blocks out a good amount of low frequency noise. The PX's ANC on plane mode blocks out a little bit more noise than the HD1, but when the PX is on Office (To preserve its sound quality), it isn't as effective as the HD1, Sony or Bose in blocking out noise. However, as for the sound, the PX is superior to them all with the HD1 playing more in the field of the Sony's and Bose.
How do you compare both to the pxc550? Build, sound and ANC ?
Ashish Gugnani PXC550 ranks in the middle in terms of ANC effectiveness. Build quality wise the PX is ahead, but the Sony is probably a tad bit better built than the PXC550. Sound... PX is the best with the most resolution and Dynamics. The Sony's come in 2nd besting the PXC550 in soundstage and cleanliness.
TheGamingAudiophile I do not agree at all when it comes to soundstage and cleaniness. Sennheiser beats Sony there. The issue with Sennheiser though, is the lack of "umpf" and over-emphasize on treble; like really alot of treble.
Sonys, imo, sound too bassy out of the box, but EQed properly they are perhaps a bit more balanced for pop music. If you listen to classic and Jazz, Sennheiser all the way. Vocals also stand out more in Sennheiser. If only the bass was a tad better on the Sennheiser they would be epic.
I cant compare to the BW, as I have not tried them.
TheGamingAudiophile thanks for the response, I loved the build and sound of the PX but found them hurting my jaw and head after 15 mins of use. Thought it was one off but happened again. Ended with pxc 550 (only because got them for $250) and I agree while sound is good, px was much better and classier . But comfort was my deal breaker and pxc felt very light thought ear felt warm after some use but not that bad. Wish that was not the case as I really loved the B&W and felt miserable departing with them
Ashish Gugnani Agreed, the PX has quite poor to medicore comfort.
Bowers & Wilkins better sound production - stop right there, that's all you need to know.
Basket Case Comfort and ANC matters too in which the PX lose out to the Sony's.
The Bowers & Wilkins are plenty comfortable, made with better materials, and have better sound quality which for me matters much more because I love music.
If sound quality matters you don't get ANC headphones.
What?
What pair would you recommend for bus commute ?
If you're sitting by the engine, the WH-1000Xm2. If not, the PX will block out the residual sound quite well while sounding better.
Does the Sony wh-1000xm2 durable?
Not as well built as the B&W PX, but it's fairly durable under normal usage.
Had the PX and own the 1kxm2. No idea what are you talking about in regards to SQ.the PX is like u took a big tin can..emptied it and put on ur head sound. Mid range suffers from this..
Also you didn't touch on what phone/codec u tested each.