Now that I've had the PX7s for over a week, I have done even more listening and gotten the opportunity to take both the PX7s and 700s on a trip to Nashville (which is becoming an incredibly fun town for music lovers) and really put them through their paces. I did a few key listening sessions including Dave Matthews' Best of What's Around and Sting's Shape of My Heart. First, the 700s have a brighter sound signature than the PX7s. It is sort of a classic bose sound with the highs and lows generally over-indexed vs the midrange. The PX7s present a wider sound stage and are less bright and have slightly deeper base. You will hear with the PX7s a broader presentation of lower frequencies across the board. This is most obvious in tracks where there are a lot of instruments playing at once with many frequencies represented (really clear in the Dave Matthews Track). In terms of noise canceling, I tested both in the terminal, on the plane, and walking the streets of Nashville taking business calls. While there were differences in the noise canceling, they both performed generally well in most environments. The PX7s had a slight advantage when I was walking on streets talking (I got less people on conference calls asking me to mute if there was wind and other background noise). But honestly, both are pretty good and give you the ability to toggle through different levels of cancelation. I will say that I found the Bose bluetooth connection annoying. There were several times that it just did not connect correctly and I had to remove it and reconnect. I have not had this problem with the PX7s. I also did a little comparison of the PX7s against the original PXs. The main advantages of the PX7s are: i) better noise cancelation, slightly deeper base, and they are lighter. After more than a week of comparing the 700s and the PX7s, big advantages of the PXs is that their ability to pause the music when you take them off, play when they go back on, go into standby on their own and general bluetooth management/connection is really helpful for a traveler. I found myself constantly fiddling with the Bose to make sure they were turned off or on and to reconnect them, etc. Hope this more detail is helpful. We will be adding all of this additional info to the full review at www.audioadvice.com. So if you are ever looking for more info than you see in our first look videos, the online reviews on our site will always have the newest and complete information.
Hey Ryan! The PX7's are very comfortable and we didn't experience any tightness but that could vary from person to person. Bowers & Wilkins did change the headband design and they seem to have more flex.
Sadly the Bose 700’s have an ‘auto off feature’ where if you do not move your head for 10minutes their very loud ‘power off’ sound comes on and they turn off. They are supposed to be working on it but you can’t use them if you want to sleep in them. Sadly. See the Bose Community for more info. It’s all over the place as people are beyond frustrated. I returned mine.
@@ryanpearl3426 Ryan, I decided to go test the PX and PX7 back to back for you. When compared back to back the PX7s have less perceived clamping pressure. There are three things going on. The first is that the carbon fiber arms have more flex than the PX arms. The second is that the earcup circumference is a bit larger on the PX7s thus spreading the pressure over a larger area. The third is that there is more memory foam in the PX7 earcups. This third part is key because you want to have enough clamping pressure to fully seal the earcup to the ear for best audio performance and noise canceling but not too much to make them unpleasant. One trick you can use with the PX7s is to push up the headband slightly more than you usually would to go over your head. When you do this it reduces pressure on the sides of the head. In the grand scheme of things, I would rate the perceived clamping pressure of these as right around the midpoint of most over the ear headphones with some having less and others, like the PX, having more.
After doing some research and trialling between these two in an audio store, I've chosen the B&W PX 7. Amazing sound, comfort, noise cancellation and quality build. Worth the money.
Hello and thanks for the video. But I have two questions: bass can give me headaches, but I love the design of the B&W, and I own a B&W Formation Wedge. However, I can not try the PX7. So: - Is there an EQ for the B&W? - If not, are the bass too loud for somebody who likes them not very loud? Thank you. :)
From Scott: Now that I've had the PX7s for over a week, I have done even more listening and gotten the opportunity to take both the PX7s and 700s on a trip to Nashville (which is becoming an incredibly fun town for music lovers) and really put them through their paces. In terms of noise canceling, I tested both in the terminal, on the plane, and walking the streets of Nashville taking business calls. While there were differences in the noise canceling, they both performed generally well in most environments. The PX7s had a slight advantage when I was walking on streets talking (I got less people on conference calls asking me to mute if there was wind and other background noise). But honestly, both are pretty good and give you the ability to toggle through different levels of cancelation.
Are the drivers angled like the px before ? Owning the px the NC on highest has a significant impact on music quality, how does this seem with the PX7 ? Does the PX7 have a magnetic earpiece ? Thanks
Miguel Cardoso Not completely true. It also sounds very good in the lowest ANC mode...the Office mode. It’s the City and Airplane modes that kill the sound quality...especially the soundstage.
How about a review on the actual sound characteristics vs just talking about bass. Slightly better doesn't quantify much in any of the previous 7 characteristics of sound. How about the noise canceling? What environments was it tested in? How did it perform vs the Bose 700? Very incomplete review.
In terms of noise canceling, as Joe said, the B&Ws auto feature is actually really good. However, I want more time with the B&Ws before updating the full review on our website with more detail. I am taking them on a plane trip this weekend, so I will have great data on how they perform more extensively. You are correct that this comparison was intended to cover the high level noise canceling, sound, ergonomics, controls, app, etc. between the two headphones immediately following the release of the B&WS. We are extremely careful not to overstate something until we have enough time with product. If you are trying to decide between these two or want more info, we should have more detail in our review on our website by this time next week.
Really great coverage and looking forward to more content about the headphones. Could very well be the Anc Headphones to get in 2019 especially in terms of sound. But please answer my only question. Are the earcups any bigger then the PX? Really was my only problem with the B&W Px.
Rich the px7s have a slightly larger earcup than the pxs. I assume you mean that you are looking for more room for ears. Of the major anc headphones the px7s have the most space ergonomically for ears.
Sure, but like you say, he’s a good salesman - it’s his job. Nonetheless I was impressed that elsewhere in the comments he suggested that the PX7 isn’t worth it if you already have the Sony MX3. He called both roughly equal.
Scott has now had more time with the PX7's and we will be updating the written review soon with the following: Now that I've had the PX7s for over a week, I have done even more listening and gotten the opportunity to take both the PX7s and 700s on a trip to Nashville (which is becoming an incredibly fun town for music lovers) and really put them through their paces. I did a few key listening sessions including Dave Matthews' Best of What's Around and Sting's Shape of My Heart. First, the 700s have a brighter sound signature than the PX7s. It is sort of a classic bose sound with the highs and lows generally over-indexed vs the midrange. The PX7s present a wider sound stage and are less bright and have slightly deeper base. You will hear with the PX7s a broader presentation of lower frequencies across the board. This is most obvious in tracks where there are a lot of instruments playing at once with many frequencies represented (really clear in the Dave Matthews Track). In terms of noise canceling, I tested both in the terminal, on the plane, and walking the streets of Nashville taking business calls. While there were differences in the noise canceling, they both performed generally well in most environments. The PX7s had a slight advantage when I was walking on streets talking (I got less people on conference calls asking me to mute if there was wind and other background noise). But honestly, both are pretty good and give you the ability to toggle through different levels of cancelation. I will say that I found the Bose bluetooth connection annoying. There were several times that it just did not connect correctly and I had to remove it and reconnect. I have not had this problem with the PX7s. I also did a little comparison of the PX7s against the original PXs. The main advantages of the PX7s are: i) better noise cancelation, slightly deeper base, and they are lighter. After more than a week of comparing the 700s and the PX7s, big advantages of the PXs is that their ability to pause the music when you take them off, play when they go back on, go into standby on their own and general bluetooth management/connection is really helpful for a traveler. I found myself constantly fiddling with the Bose to make sure they were turned off or on and to reconnect them, etc. Hope this more detail is helpful. We will be adding all of this additional info to the full review at www.audioadvice.com. So if you are ever looking for more info than you see in our first look videos, the online reviews on our site will always have the newest and complete information.
Austin Flood I sure hope b&w does a lot better in the comfort department this time. The last px I returned because could not wear more then 30 min. Also found the sound signature not to my liking either.
Stephen Knight interesting. I love the momentum 2’s, but I have the on ear and they can get uncomfortable after long periods. I think the best shout will be to just ensure you can return them I guess. No bargain hunting on eBay haha
I tried the Px7s and returned them. The Sennheiser Momentum 3 have superior audio quality, especially in high tones. They also sound louder are more beautiful and have more pleasant materials. The comfort between the two is similar (but the Px7s are stiffer). For me the lower battery life on the M3 is not a problem. Px7s have better Anc, but poor microphone. The samrt break sensors on the Px7 don't work well, on the M3 it goes perfectly. Also the bowers&wilkins app requires mandatory geolocation activation, bad! However the sound signature of the Momentum 3 is very similar to the glorious old P7... More than the Px7
I actually tried both the PX7 and M3. I'm not happy about the battery life in M3 but the dealbreaker for me with the PX7 was the lack of access to smart assistant. I like to random tell my google assistant to play a song or playlist with out having to go to my phone every time. Hell, I could just ask what the weather is outside and I'll get answer...again without having to go to my phone. Isn't that one of the points of going wireless is to keep your phone in your pocket or in another room?
I suspect that you are pairing both headphones to an apple device when you talk about their sound quality being close. They will both use only AAC with an apple device. The Bose are limited to AAC at best under any circumstances, a lossy MP3-like codec. I'm fairly unimpressed by both when pairing either device with my ipad pro. I'd suggest trying the PX7's using Android and Neutron player, on a device that supports APTX HD or Adaptive, while playing at least FLAC, or trying some 24 bit audio tracks. HD audio is supported by the bandwidth of the PX7 Bluetooth connection when paired with a better device. It's night and day... The PX7 is far more capable under optimal conditions. It's an objectively exceptional headphone in it's own right, which happens to also have ANC.
Thanks for your comment and you've made a very good point! AptX and AptX HD makes a world of difference and does give the PX7's the edge in that use case. Unfortunately, AptX isn't as widely used as we would like but you're right, some Android-based phones do have it and it'll help a lot.
This is not a real review...it’s more of a somewhat informative advertisement. I imagine Audio Advice sell both products, so it’s not in their best interest to trash the Bose. I can say that I bought the Sony 1000xm3, the Bose NC700, and the B&W PX....and the only one that didn’t go back to the store is the PX. In regards to sound quality, the Sony is a little better than the Bose...but the PX is much better than the Bose, and noticeably better than the Sony. Detail retrieval, timbre, instrument separation, smoothness, and soundstage are much better than on the Bose. The PX sound at least as good as a $400 pair of quality wired headphones. The Bose NC700 sound like a somewhat overpriced pair of Bluetooth ANC headphones. There is a catch, though. The PX only sounds amazing with ANC set to off or to its lowest setting. Its sound quality and sound stage take a big enough hit at the higher ANC settings that both the Sony and the Bose pass it when they’re set to their highest settings. Thankfully, the PX has excellent passive noise isolation, so the highest ANC settings are rarely needed. It is also very dependent on having a proper seal, so people who wear glasses or have long hair should stay away. I hope that, at a minimum, the new PX7 improves on the weaknesses of the PX. Perhaps Audio Advice should make a video comparing the original PX to the new PX7. That would probably be more useful.
Joe, thanks for jumping in with your experience. As you point out, B&W makes great products. In terms of this comparison, my goal was to get this out quickly and cover all of the major areas: noise canceling, sound, ergonomics, controls, app, etc. I believe this was the first review out in the entire market as I believe I had the first pair out. So the upshot is that I want to have more time with the headphones to get a more thorough analysis of the noise canceling, in a bunch of real world environments. We are extremely careful not to overstate something until we have enough time with product. We will be updating the more detailed full review on our website as we get more time comparing them. Thanks again for jumping in with your own experience.
Joe Ramos As someone who owed a pair of the PXs this is right on the money. Thank you for giving some actual information unlike this joke of a “review”
@@MichaelM28 It would be untrue to say that there is no impact on the sound. However, I let several people do listening tests rotating through the ANC settings. They all concluded that the impact on the sound was virtually insignificant on all levels including the high anc settings. Obviously, it would be false to say that there is zero impact but from a practical standpoint, you will be super happy compared to the PX ANC in terms of impact on the sound. B&W put 6 mics in these, 4 of which are just for the ANC so it is super well done.
He should mention the px7 have greater codec support with Android phones. But doesn't mention the fact that you can't use the px7s powered off, so no charge no headphones, which frankly is a deal breaker for me.
anc quality isn't an issue when listening to audio at 50% volume or more. It is only relevant when you are not listening to any audio (or below 50%). So anc isn't a deciding factor for me (sound quality, comfort, style, and feature set is).
Excellent video! I subscribed instantly. I have a quick question. Will you be doing a comparison of the px7 against the momentum 3 wireless? I'm more into sound quality and comfort over anc quality and battery life.
Hello h1a8, we currently do not have plans of doing a comparison video with the momentum 3 wireless. We always appreciate suggestions and may do that in the future.
Sorry but i find it weird that the comparaison between bose sound and bw sound comes down to this : the bw has a tad more bass.... I have only heard the bose but ive heard plenty of bw speakers and i own the p5 s2 and bw always has a much warmer sound that the neutral bose. NOT SAYING neutral is bad. But i and i think most of the people like a more warmer sound. Is this also the case for the px7 or has it become more neutral ? Cause you state that it only has a tad more bass.... This is just a video to be first i guess cause its very limited. 1 sentence to say what the sound is Not a mention of the mic ( which usually is always bad except the bose, but i buy headphones for listening, not calling ) Not a mention of the padding, are they a big improvement over PXs , as they were bad according to alot of opinions. ... But still im gratefull for it.
bluetorch002 The original PX is the most neutral sounding headphone B&W has ever created, but it still sounds very solid and dynamic...nothing thin about it. That being said, with ANC off or at it’s lowest setting, it blows the Bose NC700 away when it comes to detail retrieval, timbre, smoothness, instrument separation, and especially soundstage. The Bose does take the lead when ANC is set to high. The weakness of the PX is the hit that the sound quality and soundstage take when set to its higher ANC settings. Thankfully, the PX has very good passive isolation, so the higher ANC settings are rarely needed. I do hope that the new PX7 improves in these areas.
This was just our initial first take on a comparison. We only had the new Bowers & Wilkins headphones for about a day. As we continue to test and draw conclusions in various listening conditions, we plan to put out a deeper and more in-depth review. Thanks for the comment!
Wait... A little bit better sound then the Bose? This is quite bad to be honest. The Sonys are a little better then the Bose and the new Momentum Wireless for example murder them in terms of sound quality. I thought B&W would be at least on part with Sennheiser but well i guess not
I'd take that with a pinch of salt, he says sweet fuck all about sound. I'm waiting until multiple reviews come out before I make up my mind between these or the momentums
@@marcushogan6613 yeah exactly the same. I really want these to be good because battery on the Momentum is a little low for me. Need at least 24h to get through a week. In terms of Sound i love the Momentums tho
I hate this design...they should have kept the old design while improving on performance and features, more like what Sony M 1000 series did with the M1, M2 and M3s
I Agree strongly. It's almost like that new design should have been the regular PX style and then the old design should have been the PX7 new design with softer ear pads.
Whether you ever go there or not, the idea is that you will be hearing music the way the engineers and producers heard it when they mixed it. With that said, I must admit that it sounds pretentious when they keep bringing the subject up. If you visit the B&W website, you will know that the presenter is mirroring a lot of the ad copy. It was helpful that they actually tested the battery life, and his sound impressions follow in the comments, which is really what I was interested in, anyway. I've been listening to my B&W 803D's for many years now, and they are amazingly accurate. That doesn't always mean the most pleasing sound, however. Audition any stereo equipment and test blind back to back. Bose isn't a fan of that, by the way.....
Is the comfort a night and day difference between the original PX? If I'm getting a huge downgrade in design and build quality then it better be significantly more comfortable
Vendetta xRiich the materials are significantly less premium then the original PX and the carbon fibre frame looks like it's covered in dirt for some reason. Also the earcups are no longer magnetic so I'd say they're a significant downgrade in design and build quality
Yes, they do enable dual connection. That said, I've found dual connection sometimes to be flaky on all devices that have it depending on what your two sources are.
You will find that the earcups, which use a memory foam material, will soften and adjust to your head over time. I've found them to settle in nicely over the past 11 days or so. This, along with a little burn in of the rest of the components have probably created a slightly improving experience with them over nearly 2 weeks. However, from a practical perspective these headphones don't need burn in to sound good. Will you perceive them to sound better over a couple of weeks--yes. Is this a massive measurable change from traditional driver "burn in"--no. Hope this helps.
What you are seeing is the actual short strand carbon fiber strands. I think it looks pretty cool in person. One key benefit is that this more modern look with the exposed carbon fiber is that you won't see scratches the way you would on a gloss plastic or metal.
You currently cannot change the EQ with an app. However, the app has been designed so it can updated over time. I would expect at some point they will add that feature (which of course is debated by audiophiles whether headphones should have this or not).
@@MichaelM28 You can use them wired, my dude. Besides, I'd recommend Sony'a m3's for LDAC and virtually indistinguishable CODEC. Nobody can tell the difference these days and they are very good.
Now that I've had the PX7s for over a week, I have done even more listening and gotten the opportunity to take both the PX7s and 700s on a trip to Nashville (which is becoming an incredibly fun town for music lovers) and really put them through their paces. I did a few key listening sessions including Dave Matthews' Best of What's Around and Sting's Shape of My Heart. First, the 700s have a brighter sound signature than the PX7s. It is sort of a classic bose sound with the highs and lows generally over-indexed vs the midrange. The PX7s present a wider sound stage and are less bright and have slightly deeper base. You will hear with the PX7s a broader presentation of lower frequencies across the board. This is most obvious in tracks where there are a lot of instruments playing at once with many frequencies represented (really clear in the Dave Matthews Track).
In terms of noise canceling, I tested both in the terminal, on the plane, and walking the streets of Nashville taking business calls. While there were differences in the noise canceling, they both performed generally well in most environments. The PX7s had a slight advantage when I was walking on streets talking (I got less people on conference calls asking me to mute if there was wind and other background noise). But honestly, both are pretty good and give you the ability to toggle through different levels of cancelation.
I will say that I found the Bose bluetooth connection annoying. There were several times that it just did not connect correctly and I had to remove it and reconnect. I have not had this problem with the PX7s. I also did a little comparison of the PX7s against the original PXs. The main advantages of the PX7s are: i) better noise cancelation, slightly deeper base, and they are lighter.
After more than a week of comparing the 700s and the PX7s, big advantages of the PXs is that their ability to pause the music when you take them off, play when they go back on, go into standby on their own and general bluetooth management/connection is really helpful for a traveler. I found myself constantly fiddling with the Bose to make sure they were turned off or on and to reconnect them, etc. Hope this more detail is helpful. We will be adding all of this additional info to the full review at www.audioadvice.com. So if you are ever looking for more info than you see in our first look videos, the online reviews on our site will always have the newest and complete information.
Thanks for the detailed opinion. Looking forward to getting these and comparing them to the pxs
Scott Newnam thanks! How was overall comfort of the PX7? I tried the PX for a day and the clamping pressure forced me to return them.
Hey Ryan! The PX7's are very comfortable and we didn't experience any tightness but that could vary from person to person. Bowers & Wilkins did change the headband design and they seem to have more flex.
Sadly the Bose 700’s have an ‘auto off feature’ where if you do not move your head for 10minutes their very loud ‘power off’ sound comes on and they turn off. They are supposed to be working on it but you can’t use them if you want to sleep in them. Sadly. See the Bose Community for more info. It’s all over the place as people are beyond frustrated. I returned mine.
@@ryanpearl3426 Ryan, I decided to go test the PX and PX7 back to back for you. When compared back to back the PX7s have less perceived clamping pressure. There are three things going on. The first is that the carbon fiber arms have more flex than the PX arms. The second is that the earcup circumference is a bit larger on the PX7s thus spreading the pressure over a larger area. The third is that there is more memory foam in the PX7 earcups. This third part is key because you want to have enough clamping pressure to fully seal the earcup to the ear for best audio performance and noise canceling but not too much to make them unpleasant. One trick you can use with the PX7s is to push up the headband slightly more than you usually would to go over your head. When you do this it reduces pressure on the sides of the head. In the grand scheme of things, I would rate the perceived clamping pressure of these as right around the midpoint of most over the ear headphones with some having less and others, like the PX, having more.
Love the new Bowers P series headphone lineup. Really great review, thank you!!
After doing some research and trialling between these two in an audio store, I've chosen the B&W PX 7. Amazing sound, comfort, noise cancellation and quality build. Worth the money.
Great choice!
Hello and thanks for the video. But I have two questions: bass can give me headaches, but I love the design of the B&W, and I own a B&W Formation Wedge. However, I can not try the PX7. So:
- Is there an EQ for the B&W?
- If not, are the bass too loud for somebody who likes them not very loud?
Thank you. :)
How about voice and phone call performance? The bose are known for high voice/phone call performance
From Scott: Now that I've had the PX7s for over a week, I have done even more listening and gotten the opportunity to take both the PX7s and 700s on a trip to Nashville (which is becoming an incredibly fun town for music lovers) and really put them through their paces. In terms of noise canceling, I tested both in the terminal, on the plane, and walking the streets of Nashville taking business calls. While there were differences in the noise canceling, they both performed generally well in most environments. The PX7s had a slight advantage when I was walking on streets talking (I got less people on conference calls asking me to mute if there was wind and other background noise). But honestly, both are pretty good and give you the ability to toggle through different levels of cancelation.
Are the drivers angled like the px before ?
Owning the px the NC on highest has a significant impact on music quality, how does this seem with the PX7 ?
Does the PX7 have a magnetic earpiece ? Thanks
Mhhh... we Need More Information about the Soundquality with NC
True story, I own the px but the nc has to be off all the time...
But when it's off its got terrific sound
@@alexander_hro we just need anymore information, this review is lacking 😂
Miguel Cardoso Not completely true. It also sounds very good in the lowest ANC mode...the Office mode. It’s the City and Airplane modes that kill the sound quality...especially the soundstage.
How about a review on the actual sound characteristics vs just talking about bass. Slightly better doesn't quantify much in any of the previous 7 characteristics of sound. How about the noise canceling? What environments was it tested in? How did it perform vs the Bose 700? Very incomplete review.
Clint Webb agree- please make a better review
In terms of noise canceling, as Joe said, the B&Ws auto feature is actually really good. However, I want more time with the B&Ws before updating the full review on our website with more detail. I am taking them on a plane trip this weekend, so I will have great data on how they perform more extensively. You are correct that this comparison was intended to cover the high level noise canceling, sound, ergonomics, controls, app, etc. between the two headphones immediately following the release of the B&WS. We are extremely careful not to overstate something until we have enough time with product. If you are trying to decide between these two or want more info, we should have more detail in our review on our website by this time next week.
Really great coverage and looking forward to more content about the headphones. Could very well be the Anc Headphones to get in 2019 especially in terms of sound. But please answer my only question. Are the earcups any bigger then the PX? Really was my only problem with the B&W Px.
Rich the px7s have a slightly larger earcup than the pxs. I assume you mean that you are looking for more room for ears. Of the major anc headphones the px7s have the most space ergonomically for ears.
Such a unilateral review a sneaky way to make b w better at everything like s good salesman rather than professional review
Sure, but like you say, he’s a good salesman - it’s his job. Nonetheless I was impressed that elsewhere in the comments he suggested that the PX7 isn’t worth it if you already have the Sony MX3. He called both roughly equal.
Kyle Demko a good salesperson doesn’t mislead or lie. That’s not the job of a professional. You idiot.
@@PS987654321PS Let's be civil when posting comments. None of that name calling. You asswipe.
Bowers Wilkins is very good speakers and Sound!!!!!!!
I have P7 so of course I like them. But the PX7 looks terrible compared to P7 and PX.
Have to disagree on that, the new PX7 looks stunning.
I agree both P7 and PX look exquisite. Not crazy on these new models.
Apart from the aesthetics... I hope that the px7s have audio quality as, or rather, wireless p7 (best bluetooth headset ever heard!)
@@bjrnsjohnsen1278 you obviously haven't owned the original PX. I do and the new model looks ugly as hell by comparison
Yeah, not a fan of the carbon fibre compared to the aluminium.
When will the full review be out?
Scott has now had more time with the PX7's and we will be updating the written review soon with the following:
Now that I've had the PX7s for over a week, I have done even more listening and gotten the opportunity to take both the PX7s and 700s on a trip to Nashville (which is becoming an incredibly fun town for music lovers) and really put them through their paces. I did a few key listening sessions including Dave Matthews' Best of What's Around and Sting's Shape of My Heart. First, the 700s have a brighter sound signature than the PX7s. It is sort of a classic bose sound with the highs and lows generally over-indexed vs the midrange. The PX7s present a wider sound stage and are less bright and have slightly deeper base. You will hear with the PX7s a broader presentation of lower frequencies across the board. This is most obvious in tracks where there are a lot of instruments playing at once with many frequencies represented (really clear in the Dave Matthews Track).
In terms of noise canceling, I tested both in the terminal, on the plane, and walking the streets of Nashville taking business calls. While there were differences in the noise canceling, they both performed generally well in most environments. The PX7s had a slight advantage when I was walking on streets talking (I got less people on conference calls asking me to mute if there was wind and other background noise). But honestly, both are pretty good and give you the ability to toggle through different levels of cancelation.
I will say that I found the Bose bluetooth connection annoying. There were several times that it just did not connect correctly and I had to remove it and reconnect. I have not had this problem with the PX7s. I also did a little comparison of the PX7s against the original PXs. The main advantages of the PX7s are: i) better noise cancelation, slightly deeper base, and they are lighter.
After more than a week of comparing the 700s and the PX7s, big advantages of the PXs is that their ability to pause the music when you take them off, play when they go back on, go into standby on their own and general bluetooth management/connection is really helpful for a traveler. I found myself constantly fiddling with the Bose to make sure they were turned off or on and to reconnect them, etc. Hope this more detail is helpful. We will be adding all of this additional info to the full review at www.audioadvice.com. So if you are ever looking for more info than you see in our first look videos, the online reviews on our site will always have the newest and complete information.
@@AudioAdvice thnx for posting this man, appreciate it
Sennheiser momentum 3 sound way more intriguing to me!
Stephen Knight I’ve seen some poor reviews to be fair! And the battery life is terrible.
Austin Flood I sure hope b&w does a lot better in the comfort department this time. The last px I returned because could not wear more then 30 min. Also found the sound signature not to my liking either.
Stephen Knight interesting. I love the momentum 2’s, but I have the on ear and they can get uncomfortable after long periods. I think the best shout will be to just ensure you can return them I guess. No bargain hunting on eBay haha
I tried the Px7s and returned them. The Sennheiser Momentum 3 have superior audio quality, especially in high tones. They also sound louder are more beautiful and have more pleasant materials. The comfort between the two is similar (but the Px7s are stiffer). For me the lower battery life on the M3 is not a problem. Px7s have better Anc, but poor microphone. The samrt break sensors on the Px7 don't work well, on the M3 it goes perfectly. Also the bowers&wilkins app requires mandatory geolocation activation, bad!
However the sound signature of the Momentum 3 is very similar to the glorious old P7... More than the Px7
I actually tried both the PX7 and M3. I'm not happy about the battery life in M3 but the dealbreaker for me with the PX7 was the lack of access to smart assistant. I like to random tell my google assistant to play a song or playlist with out having to go to my phone every time. Hell, I could just ask what the weather is outside and I'll get answer...again without having to go to my phone. Isn't that one of the points of going wireless is to keep your phone in your pocket or in another room?
I suspect that you are pairing both headphones to an apple device when you talk about their sound quality being close. They will both use only AAC with an apple device. The Bose are limited to AAC at best under any circumstances, a lossy MP3-like codec. I'm fairly unimpressed by both when pairing either device with my ipad pro. I'd suggest trying the PX7's using Android and Neutron player, on a device that supports APTX HD or Adaptive, while playing at least FLAC, or trying some 24 bit audio tracks. HD audio is supported by the bandwidth of the PX7 Bluetooth connection when paired with a better device. It's night and day... The PX7 is far more capable under optimal conditions. It's an objectively exceptional headphone in it's own right, which happens to also have ANC.
Thanks for your comment and you've made a very good point! AptX and AptX HD makes a world of difference and does give the PX7's the edge in that use case. Unfortunately, AptX isn't as widely used as we would like but you're right, some Android-based phones do have it and it'll help a lot.
This is not a real review...it’s more of a somewhat informative advertisement. I imagine Audio Advice sell both products, so it’s not in their best interest to trash the Bose.
I can say that I bought the Sony 1000xm3, the Bose NC700, and the B&W PX....and the only one that didn’t go back to the store is the PX. In regards to sound quality, the Sony is a little better than the Bose...but the PX is much better than the Bose, and noticeably better than the Sony. Detail retrieval, timbre, instrument separation, smoothness, and soundstage are much better than on the Bose. The PX sound at least as good as a $400 pair of quality wired headphones. The Bose NC700 sound like a somewhat overpriced pair of Bluetooth ANC headphones.
There is a catch, though. The PX only sounds amazing with ANC set to off or to its lowest setting. Its sound quality and sound stage take a big enough hit at the higher ANC settings that both the Sony and the Bose pass it when they’re set to their highest settings. Thankfully, the PX has excellent passive noise isolation, so the highest ANC settings are rarely needed. It is also very dependent on having a proper seal, so people who wear glasses or have long hair should stay away.
I hope that, at a minimum, the new PX7 improves on the weaknesses of the PX. Perhaps Audio Advice should make a video comparing the original PX to the new PX7. That would probably be more useful.
Joe, thanks for jumping in with your experience. As you point out, B&W makes great products. In terms of this comparison, my goal was to get this out quickly and cover all of the major areas: noise canceling, sound, ergonomics, controls, app, etc. I believe this was the first review out in the entire market as I believe I had the first pair out. So the upshot is that I want to have more time with the headphones to get a more thorough analysis of the noise canceling, in a bunch of real world environments. We are extremely careful not to overstate something until we have enough time with product. We will be updating the more detailed full review on our website as we get more time comparing them. Thanks again for jumping in with your own experience.
Joe Ramos As someone who owed a pair of the PXs this is right on the money. Thank you for giving some actual information unlike this joke of a “review”
does ANC affect the sound quality like the PX?
The ANC is much better in these. Unlike the PX and most others, we've found the quality of the sound to remain very high even with ANC on
@@scottnewnam6976 even on the highest anc setting the sound quality isn't decreased?
@@MichaelM28 It would be untrue to say that there is no impact on the sound. However, I let several people do listening tests rotating through the ANC settings. They all concluded that the impact on the sound was virtually insignificant on all levels including the high anc settings. Obviously, it would be false to say that there is zero impact but from a practical standpoint, you will be super happy compared to the PX ANC in terms of impact on the sound. B&W put 6 mics in these, 4 of which are just for the ANC so it is super well done.
Scott Newnam great to hear
I don't think B&W is going to be happy with you saying their headphones sound only slightly better than bose.
The difference is abysmal, the PX7 make the Bose sound like a cheap €30 headphones in comparison. I say this even though I think the Bose are great.
ionesito even my Sony WH-CH700N make the Bose sound like cheap $30 headphones
Hi Scott, does PX7 support Apple Lossless via USB-C?
No Sennheiser Momentum 3 review? Could not find it in Your list.
So do the PX7 replace the P7 and the PX5 replace the P5.
yes
He should mention the px7 have greater codec support with Android phones.
But doesn't mention the fact that you can't use the px7s powered off, so no charge no headphones, which frankly is a deal breaker for me.
are the ear cups magnetic on the PX7 like the PX?
The earcups are not magnetic
@@scottnewnam6976 unbelievable
I have to say, the older B&W PX looked far better with the aluminium arms and exposed cable.
Waaaay better =(
How does the ANC compare to the Sony WH1000XM3s?
anc quality isn't an issue when listening to audio at 50% volume or more. It is only relevant when you are not listening to any audio (or below 50%). So anc isn't a deciding factor for me (sound quality, comfort, style, and feature set is).
The ANC is good on both but hard to compare the two different styles of use, in-ear vs over-ear.
Audio Advice
WH1000xm3 are over the ear headphones.
You are confusing the WF1000xm3 (in ear) with the WH1000xm3
You are correct. My apologies. We have been talking to people about the in ear quite a bit lately.
Could you review Beyerdynamics anc lagoon wireless over ear headphones
Excellent video! I subscribed instantly. I have a quick question. Will you be doing a comparison of the px7 against the momentum 3 wireless? I'm more into sound quality and comfort over anc quality and battery life.
Hello h1a8, we currently do not have plans of doing a comparison video with the momentum 3 wireless. We always appreciate suggestions and may do that in the future.
Sorry but i find it weird that the comparaison between bose sound and bw sound comes down to this : the bw has a tad more bass....
I have only heard the bose but ive heard plenty of bw speakers and i own the p5 s2 and bw always has a much warmer sound that the neutral bose.
NOT SAYING neutral is bad. But i and i think most of the people like a more warmer sound. Is this also the case for the px7 or has it become more neutral ? Cause you state that it only has a tad more bass....
This is just a video to be first i guess cause its very limited.
1 sentence to say what the sound is
Not a mention of the mic ( which usually is always bad except the bose, but i buy headphones for listening, not calling )
Not a mention of the padding, are they a big improvement over PXs , as they were bad according to alot of opinions.
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But still im gratefull for it.
bluetorch002 The original PX is the most neutral sounding headphone B&W has ever created, but it still sounds very solid and dynamic...nothing thin about it. That being said, with ANC off or at it’s lowest setting, it blows the Bose NC700 away when it comes to detail retrieval, timbre, smoothness, instrument separation, and especially soundstage.
The Bose does take the lead when ANC is set to high. The weakness of the PX is the hit that the sound quality and soundstage take when set to its higher ANC settings. Thankfully, the PX has very good passive isolation, so the higher ANC settings are rarely needed. I do hope that the new PX7 improves in these areas.
This was just our initial first take on a comparison. We only had the new Bowers & Wilkins headphones for about a day. As we continue to test and draw conclusions in various listening conditions, we plan to put out a deeper and more in-depth review. Thanks for the comment!
Wait... A little bit better sound then the Bose? This is quite bad to be honest. The Sonys are a little better then the Bose and the new Momentum Wireless for example murder them in terms of sound quality. I thought B&W would be at least on part with Sennheiser but well i guess not
I'd take that with a pinch of salt, he says sweet fuck all about sound. I'm waiting until multiple reviews come out before I make up my mind between these or the momentums
@@marcushogan6613 yeah exactly the same. I really want these to be good because battery on the Momentum is a little low for me. Need at least 24h to get through a week. In terms of Sound i love the Momentums tho
well if you've tried the original PX you'll know how good the new model will sound
I own both the PX and 1000XM3 and the PX definitely sound a bit better. The angled drivers and 768kbps upscaling make a difference
I hate this design...they should have kept the old design while improving on performance and features, more like what Sony M 1000 series did with the M1, M2 and M3s
exactly!
I Agree strongly. It's almost like that new design should have been the regular PX style and then the old design should have been the PX7 new design with softer ear pads.
I really like the design of the PX, but this.. not my cup =(
Isn't it time that they stop mentioning Abbey Road whenever B&W make a new product? Just get to the point; we'll never go in that studio anyway.
M. Speak for yourself 😅😅
Whether you ever go there or not, the idea is that you will be hearing music the way the engineers and producers heard it when they mixed it. With that said, I must admit that it sounds pretentious when they keep bringing the subject up. If you visit the B&W website, you will know that the presenter is mirroring a lot of the ad copy. It was helpful that they actually tested the battery life, and his sound impressions follow in the comments, which is really what I was interested in, anyway. I've been listening to my B&W 803D's for many years now, and they are amazingly accurate. That doesn't always mean the most pleasing sound, however. Audition any stereo equipment and test blind back to back. Bose isn't a fan of that, by the way.....
No, let’s never forget who makes the highest premium sound in the world. Yes I am a fan!
Is the comfort a night and day difference between the original PX? If I'm getting a huge downgrade in design and build quality then it better be significantly more comfortable
Even if i cant see the huge downgrades i definitely agree with the comfort. Px felt like bricks on my ear.
Vendetta xRiich the materials are significantly less premium then the original PX and the carbon fibre frame looks like it's covered in dirt for some reason. Also the earcups are no longer magnetic so I'd say they're a significant downgrade in design and build quality
Does the B&W PX7 have multi connections like the bose ? So we can anwser the phone easily if connect to PC or TV. Thank you
Considering the original PX had it I doubt B&W would remove the feature, especially with Bluetooth 5.0 included
Yes, they do enable dual connection. That said, I've found dual connection sometimes to be flaky on all devices that have it depending on what your two sources are.
Scott Newnam do all your devices have Bluetooth 5.0?
Hi. q. to A.A. Do you have to burn in this headphones? Or any other headphones?
You will find that the earcups, which use a memory foam material, will soften and adjust to your head over time. I've found them to settle in nicely over the past 11 days or so. This, along with a little burn in of the rest of the components have probably created a slightly improving experience with them over nearly 2 weeks. However, from a practical perspective these headphones don't need burn in to sound good. Will you perceive them to sound better over a couple of weeks--yes. Is this a massive measurable change from traditional driver "burn in"--no. Hope this helps.
are the drivers angled like the PX?
The drivers are angled like the PX
And The PX7 Drivers are 43m vs 40m from the PX.
Why does the metal piece holding the earcups and headband together look so dirty?
Michael McGrath because it’s not metal, it’s a composite material.
@@ryanpearl3426 but why does it have to have those horrible marks on it? makes it look so ugly imo
What you are seeing is the actual short strand carbon fiber strands. I think it looks pretty cool in person. One key benefit is that this more modern look with the exposed carbon fiber is that you won't see scratches the way you would on a gloss plastic or metal.
Scott Newnam but you still see those hideous marks on it which isn't really much better
Michael McGrath I agree. The old PX had anodized aluminium and it looked SO much better.
They sound better or what
Can you change the headphone EQ on the app ?
You currently cannot change the EQ with an app. However, the app has been designed so it can updated over time. I would expect at some point they will add that feature (which of course is debated by audiophiles whether headphones should have this or not).
@@scottnewnam6976 as if audiophiles would ever consider wireless headphones
@@MichaelM28
You can use them wired, my dude. Besides, I'd recommend Sony'a m3's for LDAC and virtually indistinguishable CODEC. Nobody can tell the difference these days and they are very good.
I love mine
This guy speaks like aloud marketing brochure. This is not a review.
Bose are just not a quality brand. This is like asking if a Toyota Camry is comparable to a Bentley
horrible... almost just read the specs??