Linux Gaming: This App Does What AMD Won't
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2020
- I recently complained about Linux gaming lacking many of the features Windows 10 has, specifically when it comes to AMD's Adrenaline software. Then you told me about CoreCtrl, a fantastic open source app for CPUs and AMD Radeon graphics cards that puts the power back in your hands, and does it elegantly! Think "WattMan for Linux." Let's explore it...
IMPORTANT NOTE: In my eagerness to show you this app, I didn't realize that my Radeon VII isn't fully supported yet. What you're NOT seeing in this video is detailed power state control, voltage control and much more! So yes, it looks like undervolting is absolutely possible depending on your GPU.
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i wish AMD just hired the dev
That is seriously the best idea.
Same with WattmanGTK or with radeon-profile (although im not sure, he might be already an AMD employee).
It's already all in the driver, he just made a gui.
Ayy jester, hope you move to linux with that new pc.
@@dunkvr4745 already on Linux primarily, I just stream on windows, other than that I'm always in mint atm
IMPORTANT UPDATE: In my eagerness to show you this app, I didn't realize that my Radeon VII isn't fully supported yet. What you're NOT seeing in this video is detailed power state control, voltage control and much more! So yes, it looks like undervolting is absolutely possible depending on your GPU. Awesome!
Radeon VII and navi should work on both 1.1.0 and 1.2.0-dev versions. You can unlock full advanced power management controls by setting ppfeaturemask boot option. More info on the Setup page of the wiki: gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl/-/wikis/Setup
This is a screenshot of the controls you should get (this one is from a 5700XT gpu): gitlab.com/corectrl/corectrl/uploads/a85fb960832da3aaaff53ff38cca95b2/image.png
Juan, hello! Thank you for the reply, much appreciated!
I just got a RX 480 for my machine. I had no idea this was an options for Linux. Thank you!
Glad I could help! Just passing on the knowledge this community constantly passes on to me!
There's still 480 out there? There's no more stock here since last year.
Wahyu Setiawan likely bought used
congrats on throwing away money on an obsolete card
FRIGGIN' BROBOCOP uhhhhhhhh its not all that old and still is driver supported, holds up in many AAA titles to this day
Linux is getting better everyday.
Use to. Now everyone developing anything for it is just making it more and more like windows every day.
@@RoomerJ it's still more stable than windows at least right?
@@RoomerJ lmao
Jason I want to give you a HUGE thanks. I've heard and seen CoreCtrl a while back, but your video made it super compelling and decided to give it a go. Long story short, the thermal paste on my GPU was super cooked and it was hitting the 89°c mark, and throttiling GPU clock to compensate. If it wasn't for you I'd probably keep running my gpu like that and maybe it'd die some day.
You saved my Rx 570, and probably my sanity if the card died, THANKS!
Oh man, 89C is way too hot for the 570 series. So what have you done with CoreCtrl? Just dialed down the power consumption and GPU clocks? Is it helping?
@@LinuxForEveryone I took the GPU apart and found some really nasty dried up thermal paste. Thoroughly cleaned and repasted.
Also the 89°c temp was in No Man's Sky with everything on ultra, now same settings it's 60°c.
If your video hadn't been that compelling to go and test and tinker and benchmark, I probably wouldn't have noticed and my card could've died, so big thanks again for the save!
@@TheWilldrick Have you tried undervolting it yet?
I like a lot that this program resembles the look and feel of AMD Adrenalin, their Windows graphics driver utility.
Booted into openSUSE again today since I wanted to upgrade it (not the worst idea with Tumbleweed tbh) and just installed corectrl after seeing your video.
That's really how things should be, no terminal knowledge necessary.
More than just resembles. Apparently he is straight jacked a lot of the coded from Adrenaline and Amd has gotten involved.
@@RoomerJ Wait, really?
Now that's awesome for human Linux users.
RoomerJ AMD got involved like to stop him or support the code?
@@RoomerJ its been 7 months, we need to know if AMD got involved to help or stop the project
Tragic how this video isn't called "We do what AMDon't"
Loved this comment because I actually was a Sega fanboy in the 90s :D
But sadly, CZcams doesn't really reward cleverness, it likes words that people search for.
Can wait to start control my gpu. This a good video. The fine detail using to the fan speed never crossed my mine.
I love this channel. The content is relevant, the presentation is awesome, and you're very engaging. This may be the best CZcams channel bar none by every measure of the metric.
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Wow, thank you! It's not every day you wake up to a comment this positive! Thanks for subscribing a few days ago, and for taking this journey with me. Cheers!
I looked everywhere for a visual on how to on install this because my Noobazz kept messing it up!! finally got it to work after watching your install at the beginning of the video! thank you sir!! you are a gentleman and a scholar!!!!
Dude! almost 12K subs. I love your channel thank you for everything you do.
Thank you for being here Mitchell! I can't believe how fast it's growing.
Awesome!! :D This is such a great example of how community knowledge and expertise can reach a wider range of folks, especially those that prefer the video medium.
Any chance of a tutorial on changing the ppmask to enable more detailed options? Love your channel and thank you so much for showing me this tool :) It's honestly essential and I hope the dev continues with it and it stays relevant for everyone for years to come!
This is super cool I'm going to check it out right now!
This is awesome! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
wait your saying thiers away to see power states voltage and the like. been using linux for just gaming for a year and had no clue about this. thanks man. been trying to find some way to see some of this stuff. with out needing to set up sensors. just for that info im subscribing to your channel
This works wonderfully on my RX6700.
It can even fully override the oem fan curve including the pointless 0rpm feature something that wasn't possible under the Adrenalin Control Panel in Windows. It would either not apply correctly or spin at 1000rpm minimum.
Also I think that my GPU runs "better" under my Arch Install: It seems to hit higher and more consistent boost clocks at a lower power draw like I can now pull the power target down to 120-135W and still hit at least 2350mhz sometimes up to 2500mhz while it needed to be at 145W in Windows to do that.
This is quality, you're underrated my dude
Thanks for that :D
That's really slick! I want to build a desktop soon because I'm getting tired of integrated laptop graphics being less than ideal on Linux. I'll have to remember to use CoreCtrl when I have all my parts together.
Did you success in your dream ?
Thank you very much this vide o helped me solve fan control issue . Does this software works with Invidia cards
I have popped back to say thank you for highlighting this app it is great fix to lack of AMD controls outside of terminal. I had gnome tweaks doing some monitoring but this is in Gnome UI but non like the core control It give my a bit more checking into Vega APU's control without basic UI.
Nice Video, it seems to be there are some issues with the aur package, do not install for this moment but i have an eye on it.
Radeon profile is another one. I just end up moding 5700xt bios using igorslab morepowertool and red bios editor. Undervolt, fanspeeds and clocktable and also disabled fan stop feature because it makes more noise starting and stoping gpu fans in light loads like video decoding.
Its Amazing! Thanks for sharing.
Damn I'm so glad CZcams recommended me this. I insta suscribed and actually got me into considering again to moving to Linux. I've always wanted to do it but to be honest it scares me a little to think of what I'm going to be able to keep doing and what not, considering that I use mostly for gaming and maybe learn to produce music and/or draw with a wacom tablet... Thanks for the great content!
You probably know after seeing a few of my videos that I'm a Linux enthusiast and I LOVE IT when people switch over. But I'm also not going to lie to you: Music production on Linux just isn't quite where it needs to be yet (I produce my music on a Mac still after trying many, many apps). But it's getting VERY close. You might start by checking out Bitwig or LMMS! And if you want a Linux distro designed FOR creative people, give Ubuntu Studio a look.
WOW Awesome I'm loving it. Is this like an overclocking tool? I still don't understand. Can you make more in depth video on this. settings what you can do what you shouldn't do on it. Thanks Always loving Linux For Everyone Video's!.
Meh, started the install procedure on Pop_OS 20.04, added the suggested PPA, updated, installed, and rebooted to find only one of my displays was working and the amdgpu driver wasn't being loaded on boot. Took me an hour to find out that the install blacklisted the amdgpu kernel module and got it back up and going again. Maybe I'll revisit this another day if I'm really feeling up to seeing what it has to offer, but it won't be on my main computer until I can thoroughly test its install out on a spare computer. Their page really needs to mention these sorts of things, didn't see a single thing that applied to why this happened, not sure if that line about adding the feature mask as a kernel boot option is supposed to correct it, but I didn't give it a shot, just was frustrated and wanting my stuff working again. Maybe its just not quite compatible, not sure.
Wow, Thank you. it use GTK theming ? :) Subbed.
Thank you so much!!!!!
You also have radeon-profile. It does overclocking, voltage control, fan speed, graphs, can launch executables with environmental variables. It does take a bit more work to get working (no up to date ppa for Ubuntu), but it's another option for AMD gamers out there.
Thanks for sharing. Did not know this was available.
Happy to help!
Please make a video on how to install corectrl on other distros except the listed one
This is great am about to make a new full AMD build
God I love the FOSS community.
Thank you you help my gpu finally cool down when idle
Awesome!
I have had a fully AMD system for years and had no idea CoreCtrl even existed! Thank you!
Don't feel too bad. It's only existed for 10 months and Linux developers aren't known for their great marketing ;-) Just glad you stumbled onto this video! Thanks for the comment.
Thankyou for teach us how to add the ppa. I was doing something wrong on my kubuntu. By now is looking like a dream comes true. I found Corectrl sofware searching something similar to AMD Overdrive which allow you to assign apps to processors. Test that part for the masses, because I think you can setup the apps with that software.
Glad it helped! Sorry I went through that section so fast, just didn't want to make the video super long!
Just wanna say thanks for this video and the older one on MangoHUD. I don't personally need all the advanced controls the tools offer (though of course I appreciate that they are there), I just wanted something to reassure me that, yes, my hardware is working correctly and I'm getting the performance I should. The traditional hardware monitors are chock full of loads of data I don't need, and precious little that I do.
A couple related tools you might mention in the future are GOverlay and vkBasalt. Maybe you're already familiar with them, maybe not.
vkBasalt gets you a CAS filter for vulkan (basically Radeon Image Sharpening), which is really nice. It also claims some compatibility with 'Reshade' filters, but tbh I haven't played with that at all and have no idea what they do or how well they work.
GOverlay is nice graphical tool for configuring both MangoHUD and vkBasalt. Plenty of options, but clean and easy to use.
wow you pronounce the distro's names all correct. I need to subscribe
Haha! Well I've had some good teachers (namely Michael from Destination Linux)
But... I will always say "NOME" and not "Ga-NOME"
@@LinuxForEveryone I like to pronounce it as jinome haha
I have an r9 380 with "silent stop" feature that kept spinning from 0% to 100% PWM at idle rather than a conventional curve. This program definitely fixed it with my own custom curve profile.
how do you install this for debian w/o having to try and use a broken compilation process?
Which one is better MX linux vs Mint Linux vs Manjaro ?(all with lattest release)
I need for regular use and gaming like csgo, dota 2, and some programing
It'd be nice if amd made it possible for core ctrl to take advantage of some of their boost algorithms and eek out a little extra optimization, that would bring Linux gaming yet another step closer to a windows experience.
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I have a script apply my CPU over clock on every boot. And have done some tinkering with the user made wattman-gtk and radeon profile tool. But core control looks much sleeker. ive been looking for something to activate a power saving mode when I'm playing certain older titles. This could be exactly what I need.
Definitely leave your CPU script in place for now, but I hope CoreCtrl does add tons of CPU OC features in the future.
*insert " back in control" from Sabaton here*
The ubuntu PPA does not seem to work properly on Mint. Kinda lazy to build from source but i will at some point. This is great software.
@2:21 Does that mean you have the same OC features as AMD natively provides with its software suite? I mean, undervolting the memory, increasing core clock, etc?
It looks like undervolting and even power state customization is supported on CERTAIN Radeon GPUs, but it wasn't on my Radeon VII. I didn't know that going in, so maybe I'll revisit the app with an older RX 500 Series card.
Great vid! Btw, Chris Titus Tech sent me to your channel.
Hey awesome! Thanks for being here. And GG Chris!
What would be the problem if I'm not getting controls for the CPU? I just installed CoreCtl and nothing is showing up. Only CPU clock.
Hey there, i own a Asus Expedition Rx 570 OC card and i would like to know how to add my card to the "PCI ID Database".
I would like to undervolt my card using Gpu voltage stages under the advanced tab , the option does not appear on my system, the same as portrayed in your video Here: 3:23
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you for showing a light on this application I really wish I had an AMD GPU now. Would you happen to know the status of Navi support on linux? I'm interested in a 5600XT.
I am using Manjaro with the Kernel 5.6.14 and Mesa 20.0.7-3 and i got my 5700 just today. I played a bit Borderlands3 it was running absolutely fine :-) . I think the drivers have matured enough. Runs just out of the box for me.
Yeah I have a 5700 as well and it's working pretty well so far though I think it's not completely comparable to the 5600xt it's a newer GPU even tough it's the same architecture. Look at the RX 590 launch...
@@LampJustin hmm I guess i'll spring a little extra for the 5700 then. I just saw that Wendell from Level1 just got Greg Kroah-Hartman the 5600XT so hopefully that problem is resolved soon. Thanks for info Belex & Justin Lamp!
Hi great video, regards from Venezuela, there is some quite good but bad that a noticed watching your video, i have like a year using corectrl since i had Fedora 32, i'm on 33 release rightnow, i have the proper graphic drivers installed, vulkan supported (almost it didn't cause my card is a Tahiti), can run great AAA games even the epic games store, but there is something, on my corectrl panel that makes me a sad men and, There is no that "advanced" option that lets configure gradually the performance parameters like you do i wonder why, i know maybe i'm hardware uncompatible and that feature don't reach me but, i hope you can help me
If you are that worried about fan noise and heat. Use a good sized squirrel cage fan. It's quiet and everything gets air..
Great app and very good contribution. Thanks Linux For Everyone
Does this application have fan control for the GPU? I'm currently looking for a solution to this as Linux doesn't have anything like MSI afterburner.
How do you install this on Arch? I used "pacman -S corectrl" but I get an error "error: target not found: corectrl"
Nice video...
I bought a 7900xt gpu and if somebody is able to tell me how i can get it to run on my Linux Mint, i'd be very happy... The firmware is missing
You just gain another follower.
Will it let me alter my fan settings on my 5700xt and not cause blue screen or black screen issues?
*QUESTION*
Do you think EVGA and other companies will start offering versions of their software for Linux that include both Fan Control and the automatic optimization of the Voltage/Frequency profiles?
(heh, I just realized my EVGA GTX1080 hardware fan issues in Linux would be solved if EVGA had a software solution on linux. And yes, I could just RMA the damn card but I got the impression I'd get the same issue again which is fans with whine at specific RPM's)
I need this for CPU undervolting! Urgently! Pls...any help appreciated. 3600 model, without ryzen master i have no way to undervolt in ubuntu...and the cores run so hot by default whilst gaming reaching 90c easily...with ryzen master and undervolting i get them to 60-70c.
Now I really need an AMD card.
No you don’t lol
If you're on Nvidia there's GreenWithEnvy
Right direction 👍👍👍 video rocks
Thank you so much 😀
Does anyone know how to change the theme? On Gnome it just has a white theme that makes it hard to change the settings.
Plus, it doesn't seem to be an option to OC the GPU. I can't increase clock speeds above the stock values
Out of curiosity what GPU are you using?
How is the overlay in the top left corner called, or is it also corectrl?
The overlay on Shadow of the Tomb Raider? That's the wonderful MangoHUD!
@@LinuxForEveryone that's what I was looking for! Thank you, and I like your videos btw:)
Awesome!!
I like corectrl, BUT it doesn't have the other features from the AMD control panel in windows like being able to activate fluid motion frames or antilag ..etc.. really would be nice is someone figured those out for linux with an app. or at least launch options to throw in steam or lutris to get the same things..
what do you use for NVIDIA?
Love it already...
thx😍
How is that fps overlay called?
MangoHud?
i was using ubuntu 20.04 and i couldnt get lutris work to play WoW :(
Do you have a video showing how to install this on Ubuntu
I really would like to have Radeon Boost on Gnu/Linux...
Does it support Navi? I have not found a support list.
I didn’t know about this. Thanks. You win a Sub by me😀
Thanks for the sub! Nice to have you here Ryze.
I am having an issue where I can control the fan speed but it is not reporting it in the app. I'm using a 5600xt and I've looked everywhere to resolve this! (pop OS)
Excellent application, did not know about it, now I do.
Glad you watched! Thanks for being a subscriber Daniel.
Hello I need help, I tried to install it following all the steps but I receive the message "The following packages have unfulfilled dependencies:
corectrl: Depends: vulkan-tools but not installable
E: The problems could not be corrected, you have retained broken packages "I am on Ubuntu 18.04, sorry for my bad English
Just think putting Ai with corectrl that automatically set It's self based on what type of games are playing and how much time they spend.. 🤔
Does it work with the free MESA drivers? Does it support older cards like the R9 390?
Afaik, yes and yes
@@LinuxForEveryone Thank you for responding and for your demonstration in the video! This is so great, now I can OC and tweak my card settings under GNU/Linux!
what is the name of the machine your linux is installed on
Hey man I might be a bit off topic but did you heard that a new Ransome ware that can affect Linux as well. Can you make a video if it is true or not? If it is then how can we protect ourselves? Firewall tutorial or worst case... Anti virus for Linux (🤢)
The best defense against ransomware is to keep your system up to date and *back up your stuff*. Firewall and AV software rarely ever stop it because the ransomware uses mechanisms to keep every installation unique (so it can't match signature checks). Think about it: Nearly every ransomware infestation ever has been on Windows systems *that had AV software*! If you think AV software does much of anything at all to stop modern malware you're mistaken.
Something you didnt mention, will Corectrl overclock?
any help/guide to install linux and make it for gaming
it's just an old laptop though, so i dont think i could play newest game, but at least i can play fine
There are definitely guides out there, but we'll try our best to make a quick and simply one for you. Please stay tuned.
@@LinuxForEveryone thanks, i can wait
Looks nice ! I just hope this piece of software can't kill any hardware. Does anyone knows ? (btw great video and great channel !)
ahahah like putting a hardware to 3V instead of 1.3V
Hahahah RIP that'd suck
Very, very cool!
I've used this for a few months and I've still not figured out how to add a profile. The "add" button is always greyed out :/
That's odd. Maybe create an issue for it over on Gitlab?
Hah what do you know, I started using CoreCtrl a couple days ago, and I see this now. I can get my Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Special Edition to 4W idle, and I can monitor it easily with it. It's quite amazing.
4W? That's impressive
@@LinuxForEveryone I was surprised myself. I think they had added power refinements in 5.6 or 5.7 of the Linux kernel, and I'm running Mesa 20.2-devel with Oibaf drivers, combined with having the Power Saving BIOS switched on. It peaks around 65W of power and it doesn't even hit 100% utilisation, which I think is due to a lot of cross-die communication on my 1950X holding back DXVK and the GPU
This is why cryptominers like AMD. A huge cut in power and frequency still achieve most of the performance
Try to get your cpu voltage down to 0.8 to 0.7v at full clock.
CoreCtrl has been a lifesaver ever since I starting using gpu passthrough for games that won't work on Linux. Because it was choked by that second gpu, when using my main gpu, it would blast its fans at 100% whenever I would game.
With CoreCtrl, that made it super easy to apply a serious undervolt to my RX 580 with a fairly low fan curve. Thanks to that I can finally game with my open back headphones again.
I absolutely HAVE to try the GPU Passthrough solution. I mean, my workstation HAS dual RTX 2080 Supers! Next project for sure.
Jesus i cant figure out how to undervolt cpu(i79750h) or gpu(nvidia 2060) in linux.Throttlestop works great and afterburner for windows and is the only reason i still have windows
i don't know if this has been mentioned, but i've *never* had trouble installing nVidia drivers as far back as linux-2.8.x; AMD/ATI, on the other hand, i tried once and never again. the only thing nVidia needed was GreenWithEnvy for modern graphics and hardware. with the 1Gb Radeon card i had from when those were just on their way out? i could never get accelerated drivers to work in linux, and then AMD *completely dropped support for the card* and wouldn't even let you try to use 3d acceleration. the AMD drivers were also very specific to only work with certain versions of Ubuntu. what if i don't like Ubuntu and version 12.0 is like eight years old? good luck!
when i installed my current nVidia card, it was easier than doing it in Windows. the hardware manager found it right away, downloaded the drivers, and installed them, no problems. i ditched Windows completely after that, and haven't looked back.
Hey, I have a lenovo laptop with AMD ryzen 5 2500u with Radeon vega 8 integrated graphics, I have installed linux mint 19.3 cinnamon. Can you help me how to install and play PUBG lite in it. I'm very new to linux. Tried a lot of tutorials but failed. Please help me..
Does anyone know if this works for Folding at home on Linux mint with an Nvidia card?
The app doesn't support Nvidia GPUs (yet), but try one called GreenWithEnvy
@@LinuxForEveryone Thanks!
If not this program, I could not lower my temps a LOT by undervolting my GPU. Went from 1200MHz and 1150mV to 1200MHz and 900mV. Thus, in heavy loads my GPU's temperature went from 86-88 C to 72-74 C, and power consumption also went pretty down from 138W to 84W.
Also, compared with Windows official app, you can do Zero-RPM without hassling with XLM files, when you are setting curve for your fans :P
Thank you very much!
wait, the integrated GPU in 3400G can do this with medium setting? My rx580 can just running the same
No no! If you caught the beginning of the video, it's running on my Radeon VII.
Does it undervolt the card when you reduce power budget? Does it allow explicit voltage control?
EDIT: Yes it does, if your Radeon GPU is supported!
It doesn't allow explicit voltage control like Wattman, but I'd bet that's on the roadmap.
@@LinuxForEveryone The controls are there when choosing the Advanced option in the Performance mode widget. State 0 to 7, frequencies and voltage fields. Using Fedora with an AMD Vega 56.
Indeed they are. I slapped an older Radeon into my Thelio and saw the additional options come up. I REALLY wish I had known my Radeon VII wasn't fully supported before doing this video, but at least it's bringing the app some visibility. Appreciate you clarifying this for people.
Testing with my Vega 64 right now. If undervolting actually turns out to work reliably, this will be a godsend. Thanks!
Unfortunately it doesn't. The voltage settings simply get ignored, as it has been throught kernel 5.x releases (I believe). Oh well =/
@@aspiringtosomething2023 I think there is a kernel flag for that. I believe it was the amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xfffffff
@@LampJustin yes, I have the flag. But voltage control is still wonky. I have been testing this for a while. Do you have a Vega card? Does it work for you?
@@aspiringtosomething2023 to get the "correct flag" to unlock your specific GPU, use the program called wattman-gtk (yees, the program itself feels a bit funky and looks a bit like Quasimodo, but it's useful for the flag discovery :-D ) -- if it doesn't have the rights to alter stuff it somewhere tells you which kernel flag to set. (0xfffffff is not universal for every AMD card; for my vega64 it's 0xfffd7fff for example)
@@aspiringtosomething2023 I've go a 5700 but I didn't know that there's a different flag for every card 🤔 And I didn't yet undervolt