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► Chapters:
00:00 - Gaming on Linux has changed my mindset
00:34 - The worst possible example
01:04 - The Gamepass problem and why it doesn't matter
03:25 - Anti Cheats ...
06:52 - I don't care anymore
07:43 - The rest of my experience
08:16 - Switching to Linux was a good idea
08:47 - Conclusion
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Just a note, when refunding on steam, you can refund to your original payment method. It doesn't need to go back to your steam wallet.
Oh yeah, that might be an errror
I wonder why many people don't know that. When you ask for a refund the webform explicitly asks where you want to refund to. It's not like it refunds to steam wallet by default and you have to click some weird button to ask for refund to credit card.
@@MichaelNROH "might be an error"?! It is!
@@xXRealXx Not necessarily. It depends on if you already had wallet funds or not.
From personal experience, I usually bought games with Steam Wallet funds, which is why it's that way in the video. It is true that you can refund it if you purchase it directly yes
@@felixfourcolor I'm pretty sure that initially you could only refund to the wallet. Many people probably just assume it is still like that.
I now no longer have a Windows PC/Laptop since, Steam, Proton and Nobara have made everything so easy.
Same
Never heard of Nobara. What's special about it?
@@ivoryowl It has specific kernel level alterations and preinstalls geared specifically towards gaming. Be warned: it's a definitive YMMV distro. It kept locking our screen up post installs so We abandoned it.
I love Nobara! Such a solid distro
As a gamer and a Linux user for 15+ years , when I started my transition games were mostly unplayable and over time more & more games started playing nice. Today any game with anti-cheat that requires ring-0 access to my system it essential get blacklisted in my book and I never look at them again, they are essential malware. There is no reason for something with this much access on my system.
Exactly. If they want to put a process running at the kernel level, they'd better make it at least source available or it isn't going to be installed on my system EVER.
Same here. Installing Riot's anti-cheat requires so much trust in that company. Even if you can manage to trust them hackers can still target it like what happened with Genshin.
@@Fiveward Genshin's anticheat was not bypassed and used as a backdoor though. An old version of the anti-cheat was packaged with alleged primogem generator programs in Russia to fool users into thinking it was legitimate by using an already verified dll file. This has literally happened for two decades now.
Very much this. What's the point of giving Microsoft the boot when you let other vendor's spyware in on your system through a different door?
Speaking of Anti-cheat, Easy anti-cheat make Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 unplayable for me
Linux changed my gaming addiction to programming addiction 🐧
Gosh, this happened to me a year ago after I learnt that you can customise GNOME (and Linux in general). Now I'm learning User Interface design, and using Hyprland as my Window Manager.
I want that. Tell me how
@@nsawatchlistbait289 just start
I saw a Reddit post a while ago titled along the lines of "Gaming on Linux has made me play better games".
I hate to "judge" the things people like and enjoy, but I'm glad to see Linux breaks people out of products designed to addict you, lessen your security, handicap your hardware, squeeze as much money as possible out of you, abuse FOMO, and a plethora of other things.
Crazy how good Linux gaming has gotten since the last time I tried it. Removed Windows from my system a few days ago :)
It's been almost 3 years since i migrated entirely to Linux and it's been almost a year and a half since i eliminated dual boot, it doesn't make sense.
@MRDeu I literally just got my first laptop with no OS, the Framework Laptop 16, after using a dual-boot with Windows 10 then 11 but actually booting into Windows. My Framework Laptop 16 ONLY runs Linux, and I just used fwupd to update the UEFI, no Windows required. Any company that offically supports Linux and has modern features like a 16 : 10 screen is higher on my list than a comparable Windows only laptop. Sadly, many Linux first laptops don't have touch screens or even 16 : 10 screens, but that is slowly changing.
Congrats
so, what next distro(s) are you planning to hop into? 😂
@@reikanou-issenI mean if you're Distro Hopping you probably set you're Boot Partition to 1/4th or 1/8th of you're Boot Drive and thus you don't have to Wipe the Whole Drive when Distro Hopping just The Boot Partition. Honestly you do the same with Windows. In Partition Wizard just Shrink the Partition and reformat the Rest of the Drive.
Windows games were made for Windows. Windows games are not supposed to run on Linux. We made it work anyway. So yeah, hiccups are to be expected, but we made so many games just work. That's impressive work.
Always remember that Wine/Proton is 30 years of active development. It's insanely impressive. I mean if a Windows game doesn't work on Linux these days, I'm not thinking it's impossible but maybe it works next month.
If you value gaming in general, never support a la carte subscriptions like game pass.
I hold a similar opinion now. I used to hate that some games refused to make their games compatible with linux, especially due to anticheats. Nowadays, I just don't play them. The only situation in which I play these kinds of games is when a friend wants to play together. In that case I just boot up windows, which happens quite rarely nowadays. Ironically, 90% of the time I boot up windows is because of MS Office, not games.
MS Office is definitely still the gold standard. If you haven't tried it though I really recommend OnlyOffice. I've been very impressed with how clean and well designed it is.
Open Office or Softmake Office are free and have great compatibilty with MS Office. If I really need to make sure compatability is great, I use the free online version of MS Office.
The ONLY way I'd play a game with kernel level anti-cheat is to have a separate PC (or at least duel booted) that is ONLY used for those games and absolutely nothing personal.. I'm lucky though, that I don't tend to play online competitive games that are the targets for anti-cheat and am very impressed with how far Linux gaming has come in the last few years. I'm with you in that before I buy a game, I make sure it works on Linux and support games that don't try to purposely not work on Linux. I have a decent sized game catalog, so I don't need to play all the new stuff. :)
Same here, I have too many games in my Steam library anyhow. I got them for dirt cheap on the Russian steam market when I lived there. On the seasonal sales some games were cheaper than a beer at the bar.
The only way I'd even let it on ANY computer I own is to have the source publicly available and also audited by a group of trusted cyber security researchers. I think Vanguard even disallows VMs and dual booting. Guess what WON'T be on any computer I own?
Since a Level-0 anticheat is running in the background all the time, probably collecting data aswell and sending it to the company behind it, wouldn't it be a major privacy-invasion which should be possible to ban such software from people's PC's by (at least in Europe) strengthen the GDPR?
I mean having a driver installed on my system without my consent, would be very creepy, if I had no idea that it's running all the time. 🤔
The problem is that you technically consent to it. Even if Vanguard started taking more measures on your system like blocking certain hardware, you technically agreed to it.
The EU will only interact, if there is actual evidence of a market power benefitting from it directly.
I mean, it's also bad advice to give one company near total control over the desktop marketplace but here we are.
Competition is good, until that competition is against the dominant OS market player, then people default to their Stockholm syndrome.
Last night we set up our VERY first Linux-based PC with the sole purpose of media and gaming (thanks to your how-to). Tonight, we game. Very much looking forward to it and the freedom from M$.
Its sad to see some notable titles being excluded from linux because of the anticheat. I'm hoping in a few years these issues will get sorted out considering the amazing state of Proton and the growing interest in linux
I keep my GamePass in my Xbox Series X and my Steam account in linux, best of both worlds
Thanks for all your gaming on Linux updates! These are my favorites along with your videos on how to get stuff like Davinci Resolve and other annoying apps running well on Linux. I still dual boot for Destiny and other live service games because it's a way for my friends and I to still hang out and catch up with each other. One day I'm sure we'll find something else that's more Linux friendly, and I can finally stick with Linux full time.
@dreaper5813 How are you forced into playing quality games if generally most games already do work on linux? There is so much slop you could play right now on linux with proton.
Also, a user who is tech savvy enough to be able to install any linux distro, could just install a debloated version of windows ltsc without any of M$ crap, and have more choices in what they can play.
I agree on helldivers, it's pretty fun with friends, but it's pretty buggy/unstable and runs like crap both on windows and linux.
@dreaper5813Heck, Riot has been owned by Tencent, a Chinese company, since 2010 (or maybe 2009, I'm not sure). No wonder they feeblely attempt to justify installing a rootkit to play two games. That doesn't fly and wouldn't fly ever for me.
I never support games that actively block Wine/Proton. If they don't officially support Linux or the Steam Deck but don't try to screw over Linux gamers and let them play, I'm fine with that. My problem is when they don't.
Steam Deck was my go-to way of become Linux gamer
Anyone else that played PC games on Linux via Steam Deck?
Great video! As a Linux gamer myself, I still think it would be better if more games would be available but I also noticed that finding alternatives hasn't been as difficult as people think. There are a lot of great games out there which work great on Linux.
Maybe there will be a valid solution to fight cheating without interfering with peoples privacy or control over their own system. So we can get more cross-compatible competitive online games.
The issue with using probability for anti cheat is that you will catch the players that are really good at your game and end up going pro. You never want to ban someone based on a probability
Not really. The probability method that I'm talking about doesn't span across the whole game, like calculating headshot percentages and all that.
What I mean is stuff like, how likely is it to kill people 2 seconds after spawning across the whole map with a gun and this sort of thing.
Or in the case of CS2, how likely is it, that someone fires a sniper rifle (scout) in some burst mode (which is technically impossible).
It's about detecting the cheaters that are cheating as obvious as possible, and not just banning someone who has a high kill count
Linux gaming has come a long way and turned out really good. I remember back in 2012 playing windows games was a literal pain the butt. The fact that now you can run steam games and install steam almost without difficulties depending on the distro gives you lots of hope. Also lots of games runs even better on Linux right now. I was honestly surprised by Fallout 4, Skyrim and Doom Eternal. Even newer games like Palworld or Monster Hunter Iceborn. They can't ignore the most important fact here, which is that u're still buying them legally on Linux.
Steam works on every single distro completely without issues, because of the Steam Linux Runtime, which runs Steam in an Ubuntu container no matter the distro. This makes it more secure than the MacOS and Windows versions, as everything is ran with OS-Level virtualisation
@@quinniwe True enough but some distros require you to do a little digging before installing it. Good luck trying "sudo pacman -S steam" without the multilib enabled for example. For new users it can be an issue.
I can relate but since I do this basically since the Windows 7 days, I feel like I actually missed on quite a bunch of games that I would have enjoyed on PC normally.
Oh well... there's still my second drive with Windows on it for those VR games and other than that, I mostly play Mario Kart and Splatoon online anyway.
Isn't splatoon dead?
@@xrafter Why should it? Splatoon 3 is still actively played by many many people and Splatoon 1 is back online thanks to the Pretendo project.
Also some folks still play S2.
@@MegaManNeo
Good. There are other splaton version it seems for the nentido switcher
@@xrafter Yes, Splatoon 2 and 3 are for Switch.
@@MegaManNeo
Excellent. I thought the game died with the servers for 3DS.
03:45 A wild Pirate spotted. May the chant commence.
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do you have any gaming channel where you stream games, Micheal?
Theoretically yes, but I'm currently not streaming
And if your hardware doesn't havre a linux app to configure it, don't be afraid to setup a minimal windows vm. I had that issue with my aio cooler
If it is not supported on Linux, so I don’t play.
For me the writing is on the wall, October 19th 2025. When windows 10 goes eol so does my use of windows.
Great video, a question, for a dell 7490 laptop, fedora gnome or kde? I will follow the steps in your video to save battery.
Pure preference. From the battery aspect, they are pretty similar
@@MichaelNROH Thanks for answering, the next thing would be, what browser do you use?
Been using linux at home since 2000. I did not play many many games. Then, at the end of 2021, proton got my attention, and I started playing. Your take on games using ring 0 'anti cheat' mirrors mine. Its just a matter of time till one the these companies are hacked and the hackers figure out how to use the 'anti cheat' as a back door.... With good instrumentation in games, along with a good stats package, it should be possible to find cheaters without all the garbage vendors like to throw at us.
Um, Minecraft has done server side anti-cheat for for years with success. There's no longer an excuse.
My games aren't that heavy, so I was happy to transition to Linux a month ago. The only thing that sticks out for me is the lack of a very good alternative to Microsoft Office.
Besides the standard Libre Office, try Open Office or Softmaker Office. Great compatability.
@@fearsmasher1299 I've tried OpenOffice and Softmaker Office. Both are fine, with Softmaker being a tad bit more intuitive for me, but in Spreadsheets, both are quite lacking. So, I just use WPS, but it's so outdated.
I use only office and find it is very similar to MS Office
There's Google Docs or Ofice 365 too if you wanna try
And WPS Office
I followed the same path quite a few years ago. Dual boot became annoying, most things I wanted seemed to be on linux and I rebooted less and less. I used to reboot just to update windows, but its probably a couple of years since I did that. I had vmware player for non-game windows applications I wanted, but that had some problems a couple of years ago and I never needed it enough to fix it.
I don't use Game Pass, but there are 4 games that I have on Windows that are holding me back from jumping to Linux for good, and 3 begin with with the words 'Forza Horizon' and the other is Minecraft (Bedrock Edition). I bought them all from the Microsoft Store back in 2021, and launch via the Xbox app. I play them all online with a friend's autistic son, so they are very important to me and I'm not dumping Windows yet, no matter how much I'd like to... and if I have a Windows partition to install those few games, then why not use it for all of them?
Ironically, I only really started using Linux as I do game dev as a hobby (mostly using Godot for 2D and Unity for 3D), and wanted to make sure my games worked okay for Linux users too. I've tried quite a few distros but stuck with Pop_OS. I love it.
Having bought a game in the Microsoft store is a bummer yeah. I also got a copy of Sea of Thieves which I can't play, even if it would work.
The Bedrock edition is playable btw. You run it with the pocket edition which sounds bad, but it's the exact same version as it dynamically adjusts to the system
Nice vídeo Michael.
Some of the games I mainly want to play are battlefield 2042 and the new MW2. However, the way the games are going (mostly call of duty), I may not want to play them anymore.
working on installing Linux on my machine, bf2042 is the only real reason I'm dual booting
There's one reason why I don't play in Linux yet, and has nothing to do with games: I can get everything working, except my Elite Series controllers back paddles via Bluetooth on Steam. I have 3 weeks off soon and hopefully time to look into that. 😅
If it doesn't run on Linux... I don't run it
Gaming in Zorin here
I have an Arc A770 in my main system. While the Windows experience has improved a lot, the Linux drivers are still pretty bad. Some games work fine, some just crash, some launch but run terribly with artefacts. So I had to move back to Windows. Probably go back to an AMD GPU once this one is EOL. I do the bulk of my gaming on Steam Deck though. That's been pretty solid. I also agree Game Pass is a bit overrated. I did the math and it worked out cheaper to just wait for sales and buy what I was actually playing.
I don't think I'll game on Linux until we get a good voltage curve editor (like Afterburner) and gpu fan control. My Ampere gpu gets pretty hot otherwise.
My games list hit critical mass a few months ago when nearly all of them were linux compatible in some form, did my full switch to Linux Mint LTS and unplugged my Win 10 ssd.
The number of game crashes have dropped to nearly zero compared to my Win 10 experience. 🙂👍
I like keeping updated with Linux gaming. I hope that someday it will be viable for me, since i don't really like the direction Windows is heading. My main problem is that i play a MMO that has an anit-cheat that is not compatible, a gamepad i use that only has a windows app to customize it, and i really like Minecraft and some of the people i play with only use the Bedrock version. But, i am hopeful that eventually with the steam deck encouraging compatibility with games that Linux might eventually be a good mainstream gaming OS.
I think there are ways to play Minecraft Bedrock on Linux as well. Which MMO?
I've tried to switch off dual booting, to the kvm/qemu VM , and i've managed with help of 1 random guy that i found on reddit, make not just a gpu passtrough (it was ez for me personally), but the whole "PC passtrough". In short, Fortnite doesn't allow you to play under virtual machine, and i were kicked out without VM modifications while launching the match. After few tweaks, every device been shown in task manager is been named properly, just like all my real stuff is. And i were able to play fortnite without issues, the full match, but there is risk of being banned due to bypassing anticheat.
I kinda reccomend it to do, only if you have 2 gpu's (or atleast 1 real gpu, and 1 gpu off the CPU), if only 1 gpu - dont bother, use dual boot.
So if you run Windows 10/11 within a VM to play a multiplayer game that requires anticheat and also have a tweak that lies saying you are not using a VM it will work no problem even with valorant? This tweak is with in the VM or run some program to do that? This is sort of all new to me and wondering about this. Right now I usually run Windows 11 but thinking of installing linux. One game I play tanki online they only ask to run anti-cheat in competions events not for general public matches and runs thru the browser. Thank you for explaining about this.
@@cybernit3 Well, i'm not valorant player, for alot of reasons, so i can't assist you within valorant anticheat which is kernel stuff.
In linux, exist QEMU/KVM virtualmachine, and GUI named something like virtmanager. In simple terms, i've tweaked my yaml config of entire virtual machine, in that way, that is passedtrough my entire processor and other devices. (It doesn't mean that linux can't use atleast some of processor while VM is running, linux supposedly working fine with these conditions).
So in summary, it's just a cleverly-adjusted config. Altough, during usage of it, I had 1 peculiar bug that was spreaded across all games, i can't describe exactly what it was, but sometimes game would just "run poorly for no reason". So beware of that thing actually might happening.
And if you're just starting with linux, dont rush too much with VM without knowing basic's of linux interactions versus windows's.
And don't immidiatley seek for "pre-configured VM with anticheat bypass", because it's really requires kinda personal steps to do
> only if you have 2 gpu's
I assume a laptop with iGPU and dGPU would be fine then?
@@cybernit3 nope valorant was patched within 3 months. It used to work but now it doesn't. Same with fortnite.
The problem is, that you can never really abstract your VM to look like a native machine, as Anti Cheats might try to access resources that are being reserved by the host.
As soon as there is some weird hardware combination, like an odd number of cores or not all cores perform like they should, then you might still get banned
If you think going the seperare pc route is best then go ahead. I recommend it, mutahar does it. Juat dont go console. They are underpowered just as bad as kernel level anti cheat with their constant shift to subs plus lets not forget the subscription to pay online.
I avoid dual booting with VFIO, but I barely boot my Windows VM anymore. Only played on it for Halo: Infinite.
I used to manage my iPhone with it, but I switched to an old MacBook for that.
I've started using linux with Mint about a month ago. It's so far been a mostly positive than a negative experience. There are still issues with some games and software but I will still continue dual booting until somehow anticheats for competivie games will be working with linux.
I've seen your response to several other comments on this video but I still agree with ever word you said. Don't support these companies. Support those who at least try to make their games work with Proton or even the Steam Deck instead.
@dreaper5813 Tbh, most of the AAA games I bought were couple of years ago. I didn't know anything about linux or if gaming was possible back then until someordinarygamers released his "delete windows today" video. Now that Linux gaming has become mostly compatible, I kinda feel bad that I have to switch back to windows just to play the unsupported titles.
The only reason these massive AAA companies don't support Linux is because the labor to make it possible isn't worth it for a small percentage of users compared to the majority of users being on windows. The only way we can convince these companies to support us is to get more people to switch to Linux which could takes years depending on how bad the updates ruin the os. Also, the kernel level anticheat makes it impossible to monitor the private and secure Linux kernel. If those two things can be fixed, it will be final nail in the coffin for gaming on windows.
@@raptor4211 Iagree with Muthar completely. Windows is also spyware and adware; it been that way since Windows 8 and Windows 8.1's Smart Search feature.
As for your second paragraph, these big AAA companies not supporting Linux has NOTHING to do with not being able to port their games; Proton can do that for them with minimal work. The problem is these CEOs and other executives do understand why users are leaving Windows for Linux; heck, they may be paid by Microsoft. I wouldn't be surprised if they were.
@cameronbosch1213 I haven't seen any proof of CEOs or other executives being paid my MS. As for the anti cheat issue, I'll be a bit more specific. For example, Easy anti cheat isn't a kernel level anti cheat, which is why games like helldivers2, battlebit, apex legends, insurgency sandstorm etc work with no issues on linux. The issue here is the anti cheats for games such as Tarkov, Rainbow 6, Bf1/5/2042, LoL, CoD are rootkits, which require full access to the kernel from boot. Now I don't know much about linux in depth on how it's kernel designed but what I've seen is that these rootkits were designed to read the windows kernel. Even though wine and Proton do convert that windows code to linux, that action triggers the rootkit anticheat to ban because of that conversion. However, you are right about the devs not caring about the linux users. But that's because they are busy prioritizing with microtransactions, battle passes, and constant content updates. Their executives don't see worth in supporting linux under their anticheat since it costs them money and time to reconfigue an anticheat for a small user base that uses linux. Even the latest LoL anti-cheat update had the devs state that the amount of work they would have to do only to get around 800 player increase doesn't warrant the linux support.
I really wish it can be easy for wine to convert it and work seamlessly but I'm not a genius linux guru. So I wouldn't even know how much work would it take to add linux compatibility for the rootkits.
Honestly what's happening is microsoft is in control of telling the game developers to only produce games for windows only because in Linux they don't want to risk loosing money because of support of software going to open source.
Now, I'm interested in something. I have a GOG Game being Monkey Island 1 Special Edition(the Remake). For about a year, I've been trying Lutris, DosBox, and even this newer Heroic Launcher. I can never get that single game launched on any Linux OS and it drives me nuts.
I am someone who uses both a custom, debloated Windows OSs and Linux Mint OS on seperate drives and seperate computer units. Now, I don't play competitive shooters. I enjoy fantasy games like Elder Scrolls, Star Wars, Zelda, etc. But, I enjoy this video including your other videos on this topic of gaming in Linux.
For me, gaming was never an issue cause I use seperate computers or even just consoles to play any game. For me, gaming on Linux has always been more difficult for over a decade until recently. Steam Deck coming out has made it way, WAY better. But, I'm still waiting on these point and click like this certain version of Monkey Island or other niche games I enjoy along with debugging programs I use in Windows for Window machines to get better before I fully switch to Linux.
There is a Play on Linux script for this remake of the secret of monkey island, you might want to check it.
GTA 4 runs on my low end crap Fedora KDE around 30 - 40 fps on 1080p medium with Proton GE and DXVK. 2x time improvements than Windows.
PURGE... linux ftw... support from a longtime linux user
every time you cave to corporate demands you support those tactics... resist lol
Buddy, you don't need a completely different computer for dualbooting.
Just have it on a completely different device (hard drive) and disable all kinds of os detection for whatever boot method you use.
Then, at boot just press whatever key is needed for your motherboard to get to the "select boot media" (the same you use to boot using usb).
Never fails.
And about the kernel level stuff..
Yeah, just don't use something like that, EVER.
Doesn't matter if it's on windows or not, just don't.
It has gotten so good now. I'm on Fedora and things are almost perfect. Close enough, anyway. And I prefer it for running emulators and basically everything else. Gnome is hella polished, the system is stable and solid.. My Steam copy of Halo Master Chief Collection works.. I'm a happy camper.
Hey valve, gimme SteamOS ISO already
Have you tried googling “steamos GitHub”?
Theoretically you shouldn't need SteamOS since there are a lot of good Linux distributions out there to choose from. But I assume it would help if gamers had a company like Valve behind such a distribution for PC. They probably wait until they think support for Nvidia GPUs is reliable enough for their audience since they can't control what PC configuration it gets installed on.
What distro do you use? 😊
I game on arch. I use BSPWM as my go to WM while gaming while Hyprland when I work since my GPU crashes 1 out of 10 times on Hyprland.
I played about half of Detroit Become Human on PopOS and it ran wayyyy better than Windows 11
I played Death Stranding on my GTX 1650 laptop running Arch BTW at a solid 30. On Windows, it could barely reach that.
I had a dual booted system with windows 11 and Mint for a long time as well, however, after learning that Microsoft will put an end to the Windows Mixed Reality service (and VR was the sole reason I still had a dual boot), I decided to ditch Windows fpr good and try to make work VR in a brand new partition I created of Arch to completely replace Windows. I already got a glimpse of VR working on Linix, since I was able to install the Monado driver in my Mint, however, I couldn't find a way to play steam games there (because the latest mint has the 22nd version of Ubuntu). But, who knows? Maybe arch will make everything work and the rest of my games might work better as well!
Valve is working on VR at the moment. I guess there will be some changes later this year if their development pace continues
GeForce Now works because they have a unique identifier passed through the VM as a property which can be used by the game to both identify that you're using GeForce Now and allow you past the anti-cheat, and allow them to uniquely identify you to your GeForce account and ban you. You can make a KVM which emulates physical hardware fairly well and will work for some anti-cheats, but not all.
Is this backed by an article or anything? From what I found, there is no clear documentation on this.
kernel level anti cheat is so stupid and necessary and i agree with MS policy being too much of a$$hole, we should support the companies and services/games that still respect the userbase
eac doesn't ban you if you are in a virtual machine. You just need to change some setting in your xml file.
But it could in the future and that's the problem. Getting your main banned is not good
For gamepass, the cloud is not that bad. If you have a stable and fast internet, it's quite close to the speeds you get on native. ( around the same speeds with efficient VMs )
Latency is the main problem. On Xcloud, you are using controller which is not as noticable as with a mouse, but the bitrates and increased price are just not worth it in my opinion
Micahel, do you still use Hard Drives on Linux? Thanks
For storage and as long as they work yes. For the main drive no. HDDs are pretty slow nowadays
@@MichaelNROH Do you use SSD instead?
Steam is the GOAT and there's no reason to use any other platform. Luckily Europa Universalis 4 works like a charm through Steam on Linux.
Steam is terrible and pretty much a monopoly. GOG is pretty good, but we need a few more platforms that actually compete
@archip8021
Why is it terrible? And developers can chose not to release their games in steam if they wanted.
@@xrafter they really can't. How's a game going to fare if you don't put it on steam?
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this is not a problem of steam. The PC player base doesn't want to bloat their systems with other launchers that take times and effort to download. Alot of players will end up deleting the launcher after he finish or try the game, but some don't delete the launcher.
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Obviously putting it in steam is better for the number of sales, most PC games have steam and they use it everyday or in a weekly basis.
I just played a round of Battlefield 1 multiplayer on Arch and had no issues. Is the new anti-cheat being used yet?
1 actually might not have it yet. Mixed posts online, but it seems like it's still on Fairplay
sudo pacman -Rns microsoft-windows
sudo apt purge microsoft-windows
sudo dnf remove microsoft-windows
6:48 yeah and you can even spoof hwid so instead of monitor it will show as like phone or something like that.
Yep
So question... I've found that with nvidia and intel graphics cards in my laptop... the effort required to switch between graphics just to play 30 minutes of games... It's either use prime to select nvidia and have it all being rendered with the nvidia card.. OR using a rather convoluted CLI to launch a program in order to use my nvidia card on my games... I know, I could JUST edit every launcher I have for my games.. but man that is not a smooth experience. If it was my desktop and I only needed the one video card... battery life on my laptop drops to about an hour running the nvidia card over the xe graphics...
I use Mint and Fedora and Windows as well. I absolutely love Linux and I would love it if it would be possible to use it exclusively. I use it mostly, 89% of my free time, except for my work PC, I have to use Windows then (company PC). Linux isn't perfect how many people make it out to be but neither are Windows or MacOS. Linux should be considered more IMO, however one part of the Linux community, and, no, it's not just a small vocal minority, should have more flexibility and consider making at least one extremely average Joe friendly distro, like Mint is just support it even more if you would like more users, and more people would move. For the average Joe the terminal should be optional even if we consider it easier. Hot take for some I believe but let's be honest if we don't bring more users we won't have a better experience ourselves. A food for thought, isn't it?
the closest to an extremely average joe friendly distro in my opinion is bazzite as of right now... has an install wizard that basically installs the software you want for you.
@@Viesta Bazzite is a good choice, however I don't see it being better or simpler than Mint or Fedora. Fedora has it all IMO...I might be wrong and I am a intermediate user myself so what works for me doesn't have to work for everyone. In comparison to Mint it is there, however Mint is as idiot proof as OS can be and Bazzite is not far from it.
why don't you have a patreon?
Sehr gutes Video. Bin mit dem C64 und anschließend mit einem 386 SX25 groß geworden. Dos 5.0 und recht schnell, 6.22 und Windooof 3.1. War eigentlich immer zufrieden.... aber nachdem 8.1 raus kam, war ich unzufrieden und ich habe Linux ausprobiert, natürlich nur im Dual Boot oder auf virtueller Ebene. Nachdem Windoof 10 raus kam, habe ich mehr und mehr mit Linux experimentiert und ca. 70 Distros ausprobiert. Windows 11 habe ich ca. ein Jahr benutzt und bin mittlerweile Windooof frei. Im Moment benutze ich PopOS zu zocken und Manjaro im Dual Boot zum Arbeiten. Für den Notfall habe ich noch eine externe SSD mit Windows 11, aber hauptsächlich nutze ich nur noch Linux. Mittlerweile nutze ich neben PopOS und Manjaro, auch noch eine dritte SSD mit Batocera, damit ich meine Retro Games unbeschwert zocken kann...
I feel having another machine running windows to play games is a cop out. I doubt Linux will have enough market share for developers to prioritize their game to run on Linux.
Regarding subscription, I can say that if you are subscribed, it doesn't matter: You're not owning the games anyway, sooooooo... Yeah.
Other than that, I hate that my absolute favourite games (Anno series) are on Windows... I've been thinking of running a VM in Linux. However, I'm not sure yet. For now, the only option I have is dual boot...
if the developer does not treat me well... its over and i play other things, and besides, why risk my security with ring 0 anticheats?
Ngl, the only reason I keep windows on my machine is for UEFN and Unreal in general. The experience of Unreal Editor on Linux sucks so much compared to the windows edition
My problem is things like the battlefield games. Been playing them for years on linux and all of a sudden I cant because of the EA anti cheat. Game not compatible from the start ok i know to avoid it. But games ive been playing and enjoying (and paid for) then bam one day i cant play them anymore for some stupid reason. I honestly see this aspect getting worse and it darkens my outlook on linux as my gaming os.
I've been in the same boat initially, but given that there are a lot of similar Battlefield like games nowadays, that even offer more destruction than recent titles, I'm just gonna stick to that.
Graphics are not quite up to par, and it's not for everyone, especially when playing with friends
@@MichaelNROH It's not necessarily Battlefield particularly, it's the trend. I would like either A) Devs/WINE get the windows anti-cheat working on Linux or B) There's enough push back on the game publishers to drop kernel level anti cheat. At this point I'm seeing neither and that's disappointing IMO.
linux is so fragmented the users will have very different exp from each other, i use arch btw and the gaming exp has been better than on windows especially after the mesa 23.1 update and turn off shader pre cache. I also have personal tweaks and kernel (BORE cpu sched) tweaks here and there to make things snappy, basically low latency tweaks. I can't imagine going back and face all those ads, intrusive background services and strange stutter while gamin
Pure Distro Linux phones not far behind too, as right now there usable not on everything but it's getting there.
Linux phones should be completely fine as they have Waydroid which can run a whole Android GUI and apps in. And they also have the beautiful GNOME-based Desktop Environment, PhoSH
@@quinniwe agreed but still some need abit more work they still useable
You have reversed the cause and effect relationship. For most players, the games are the cause.
Had the same experience with the game pass when I wanted to play the Yakuza games. These aren't very quick to complete and while playing Yakuza 0, the first one I've played, I just got removed. The games are back now iirc, but no thanks, never again.
What makes Valorants anti-cheat Vanguard even worse in my opinion is that it need to always run from the boot onwards. That's some weird behavior that the other kernel level anti-cheats don't have. Why? Who knows, but the need to play Valorant isn't high enough for me.
Destiny 2 running with a Hypervisor is one thing, but iirc Destiny 2 was running on a Linux based system when you ran it through Google Stadia
I mean, the gaming experience on Linux will always be sub-par, you just decided to live with problems/limitations to stick to your principles about software
For me the problem with linux is and always will be the lack of a windows-like device manager for managing drivers. On linux if all of your hardware isnt supported out of the box its not gonna work ever and you're just out of luck.
Ubuntu has a feature like that.
As the tech support guy for my friends, I now refuse to do tech support for Windows. If they want my help, they have to move to Linux. This has gone surprisingly well.
Doesn't they have more frequent questions about issues or using the system?
@@snakey4488 I think they stopped asking him for help 😂
@@no.no.4680 which is not a bad thing. More free time for him and more tech support price knowledge for his friends.
I did that with my relatives many years ago, some get converted to Mint and I help them, the others struggles.
thats ass**le behavior
The only reason i still have windows is cuz parents, which i consider okay enough reason to tolerate it. Plus its win10 so no ads (yet)
You haven't gotten the full screen upgrade to windows 11 add yet? Must be nice.
@@justanotherstanczyk its more cuz my laptop from 2015/16 doesnt have TPU, making it incompatible with the upgrade cuz "its not secure"
@@justanotherstanczyk Win10 IoT LTSC Enterprise edition + OOSU10.
You're welcome.
More people need to adopt this attitude. Just stop playing stuff. Other games exist, and you’ll likely have a better time than going through the daily grind on whatever EA game is big at the moment.
Well I've had 3 years of excellent gaming on Linux Mint until December 2023. Linux Mint had a new upgrade which I completed. Mount & Blade 2 had an upgrade 48 hours later. Game has never run since. April 2024, Upgrade to Linux Mint, upgrade to Fatherest Fronter few days later, game doesn't work and now Wartales, Outward, and all other games except Vagarus, will not load and play. I contacted steam spelling out my challenge. Steam replied with a note that they will come back to me. Steam is very busy, haven't replied to me again. I have deleted everything, re installed, disabled adblocker. No changes. So I have purchased new memory card so I will be trying again soon as it arrives. Oh and installing windows as a back up.
how about gog? indiegala? and other places there is also like a million amazing browser games like madworld or good old motherload
Look at well... Minecraft. The servers all use server side anticheats. Most of them are trash, but some of them are really good. You don't need client-side AC's.
That's how it should be done. Tencent? That's how much they saved by not implementing it and forcing users to install rootkits! 😂
Minecraft is a lot easier to handle though. Like as I said, Ragehacks are pretty much detectable, but aim assist or wallhacks not so much.
I see a gameplay of Valorant, Apex Legens and more games with anti-cheat, is that on windows or linux ?
Has to be Windows if it's Valorant. But that game and now LoL will never be again allowed on any system until Riot/Tencent discloses the source code of the rootkit they use in those games.
Apex Legends works with Linux for now as EAC works with Linux (as well as BattleEye and Denovo anti-tamper) if they're configured to do so. That could change if EA puts their sloppy solution on that breaks even Windows compatibility.
@@cameronbosch1213 Okay I see, thanks 👌
Valorant were old recordings yes. Apex is a mix of Linux and also old recordings
I did the dual thing for a bit, so I could still play games like PUBG. I tried the Virtualbox route to configure gaming mice too.
But I came to the realization that I was crippling myself using Linux as a gaming OS. I can't access all of my games I paid for, I can't even setup a profile on my mouse.
Is that Linux's fault, no, of course not. But why spend all that time trying to make Linux work for gaming, when I can just use Windows and not be hassled?
Firstly, game pass is great for people who can afford it but who can't afford buying all the games on there at full price - and who also don't want to wait the months it might take for the game they want to try or play to be discounted on Steam. No reason to bash it. Most people already own more games then they're ever going to play on Steam, and most never finish a game. Passes are great value for money for most gamers. And I'm writing this is a linux gamer that doesn't use any personally.
Secondly, at least for some game 2 hours of gameplay is not enough. I'm usually in the character creator for at least one hour for most RPGs and CRPGs I play. And one hour of game play, hell even two, is not enough for a lot of games. It might be enough for Path of Exile or Warframe, but it's not enough for Pathfinder Kingmaker or Tyranny. Steam's 2 hours are a compromise that mainly benefits shorter games. But even then, games like Pilgrims can not only be completed in under 1 hour but can be 100% in less than 2. To say that 2 hours is enough to decide if a game is for you or not is at least in my opinion false.
@dreaper5813 If you'd rather pirate you were never the target audience for anyone, not Microsoft and not the devs.
Nah, subscription rental services are trash, and need to be snuffed out before they become "the normal".
With Game Pass, you own nothing.
Buying licenses won't make you own the game either.
*If buying is not owning, piracy is not theft, though, it was never theft to begin with*
Can't play League of Legends
Can't play Valorant
Can't play FIFA and Battlefield
Can't run UbiSlop's launcher...
So what's the bad news?
So what is the optimal Linux distribution to switch to nowdays, for a Windows 11 gaming PC with nvidia ?
People say that distro doesn't matter, but for gaming it's good to go with one that's tailored to that, since it will have better defaults. Nobara, CachyOS, Bazzite.
@@necuz Ah thanks, I was thinking about a more mainstream one though, since usage is game-centric but not exclusively that. I know that Ubuntu is not ideal for a game-centric PC, especially for nvidia gpus. I wonder if Fedora is the better choice among popular distros (e.g. if it plays well with nvidia drivers + steam).
@@perperikis5501 Nobara is literally just Fedora with a bunch of fixes/tweaks specifically for gaming.
personally i prefer arch based distros to follow what steamos is doing (90% of the gaming advancements on linux came straight from valve specifically for steamos), being a rolling distro your core packages are always on the latest versions to reap any performance benefits possible
and the other thing to consider is nvidia drivers can be a pain to install, so a distro that can handle that for you is pretty great
so because of those reasons im rolling endeavorOS, been eyeing cachyOS too but waiting until its a little less new
If you have an Nvidia RTX GPU (or 16 series GPU), try EndeavourOS if you're fine with Arch and using the command-line to update your system. It still has a GUI installer, a live environment with KDE Plasma 6 (but you can choose pretty much any major DE at install time), and Nvidia drivers as a boot option.
If you don't want to use the command-line as often, you can try something like Pop!_OS once the COSMIC update is out (give it a few months for it to happen), Linux Mint Cinnamon, or even OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.
If you're running a GTX 9 or 10 series GPU, you're kind of in between a rock and a hard place, as once Nvidia stops updating those with the official propietary drivers, you'll be on your own, as the open source NVK/Nouveau drivers can only support them if Nvidia opens their reclocking support, which may never happen. In that case, your best bet may be buying a new GPU for a desktop or a new laptop with something newer unfortunately.
AMD or Intel GPUs should have no problem as Mesa perfectly supports anything remotely recent.
as a long time linux daily driver, games requiring anti cheat just means your community of players is not worth playing with, too many cheaters.
7:28 yeah, that sounds like a deal they made with Geforce Now
dual booting is a mess sometimes. like using Linux on main and windows second hand. like windows update waiting. every. single. time.
If EA makes The Sims Project Rene / The Sims 5 use EA anti-cheat, I'm dumping them for good. That would be the final straw. I don't play any of their other games anyway.
Ubisoft has only one good game that isn't on Steam and runs well on Linux (it's on the Epic Games Store), but it can be installed with the Heroic Games Launcher and works well with Proton. Now they should have put it on Steam, but at least it's playable. Now all of these first person shooters with anti-cheat either deliberately configured not to support Linux or that actively blocks Linux gamers, that I would never touch. Finally, any rootkit that requires kernel-level access (ring 0) and that basically blocks dual-booting and running in a VM I won't install even if it worked on Linux. I think you know which one I'm talking about, and it's so much worse because of who owns it.
I kept my gamepass subscription cause it's cheaper than ea pass and I still can install ea play on linux and play games thanks to gamepass
Yes I still play games on Windows 11 for FFXIV online cause i like to have the best support for my fav MMORPG game, but I own a steam deck and play all my games on SteamOS and it works great and I love my steam deck :) oh and I also game on Linux on Arch Linux i have a beelink that do some gaming not all games cause its a APU using vega 8, but I can play some games like JRPG games work amazing on it. I also have a box with RTX 3060 which I do a lot of pc gaming on to that is running Arch Linux.... I play games on linux and windows so its all good to me man i dont like to compared OSes ... i mainly use Arch Linux cause i love the light weight of the system and the freedom it offer.
Gamepass is Cancer anyway for the industry and us.
Correct. Private ownership needs to be restored.
Just need nvidia to catch up, 20fps less on linux in most games with my 4070 Ti on latest drivers
Wait games won't run inside a VM? That's so stupid
They run, but Anti-Cheats could detect them and you would also give up a good chunk of performance
@@MichaelNROH I don't get what's so bad about being detected. It's not a cheat. Are they assuming you could run cheats on host so they do something about it?
@@bvd_vlvd That's basically it yes. A Kernel Level Anti-Cheat or even just a user space one can't reach outside the VM to check the host
Anti-Cheats = Rootkits
Anti-Cheat can and must be solved on the server level. The server has to perform checks if the persons actions are valid. This requires more calculation power and in the end costs money. Because game companies do not want to allow pwople to host their own servers anymore it's cheaper for them to deploy those rootkits. They don't really help but at least they can claim that they are trying to solve the problem.
Solution: they should put up servers which require a aubscription and provide "AI Anticheat' services. People can then choose either free servers where the cheaters are or use the paid servers which will be cheater free. The game companies have not yet realized that this could also be a new income stream and be a lucrative side business.