BASS in the 30hz! and AUDIOPHILE flat?!?!? Pint Sized Powerhouse Build Video

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  • čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
  • Reviving an Epic 80's by adding two powered subwoofers and an Audiophile Flat response! Want more bass, just turn it up! This has both bass and treble knobs which allows you to tailor it to your needs/ wants.
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Komentáře • 58

  • @zarboaudioprojects1430
    @zarboaudioprojects1430 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Great explanation, and cool video! I hope quite a few folks build this and enjoy the HECK out of them! I enjoyed the collaboration, thanks Nick for doing all the hard work!

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Thanks Zarbo! I really loved doing this with you. I’m really happy we did this together! I’m couldn’t be happier with the results and the process. You are a true legend.

    • @YNUS1
      @YNUS1 Před 7 měsíci

      Что сказать, вы оба молодцы, приятно видеть подобное сотрудничество )

    • @reverendpurp9398
      @reverendpurp9398 Před 3 měsíci

      flat response sounds like shit, why you no use room curve? I have some if you need

  • @alexw890
    @alexw890 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Cool build! I’d love to hear them. I like the idea of full range sound in stereo, no separate subs.

  • @brianraulerson5037
    @brianraulerson5037 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Your videos have progressed so far since you've started. Keep up the good work!

  • @danrussell9357
    @danrussell9357 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I like the Epic speakers in the background along with the rule breaker in the center.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Před 8 měsíci +1

      You have a great eye 😁

  • @AllboroLCD
    @AllboroLCD Před 8 měsíci +1

    Owned a pair of PS 9's since the 90s and still love em. Awesome concept awesome video!

  • @Grommet2007
    @Grommet2007 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I remember when those original PS speakers came out. Nifty stuff. A friend of mine owned a pair. He probably still has them, LOL.
    REW has a pretty nifty EQ feature that will give you all the DSP settings to convert a measured response into a target response. Took hours of time out of tuning my car audio system :-).
    What does the off-axis response of those speakers look like though, let's say at 15 and 30 degrees? At my last attempt at tuning a speaker, I forgot about that. They measured flat on-axis, but off-axis a horrible peak around 3kHz reared its head. Back to the drawing board!

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Před 8 měsíci +4

      They actually are have a great phase relationship with it maintaining normal response off axis. I should have included that in the video. I’m working on making a diy spinorama so I can show that better.

    • @mikkelkirketerp4884
      @mikkelkirketerp4884 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Toid YEEEEEES! Spinorama's would be SO awesome, especially for your home theater speakers - at least for me a cornerstone of a speaker for my home theater is a very good off-axis response! Even more so than the actual spread in degrees, it has to be well behaved off axis! :D

  • @davidh5051
    @davidh5051 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I had a set of PS8a's and a PSLF when I was in high school. I can't fashion a reasonable review from so long ago but I do remember they were more impressive than the 901's at "Stereo Village" where I bought them from.

  • @hireality
    @hireality Před 8 měsíci

    Absolutely brilliant 👍

  • @yttean98
    @yttean98 Před 8 měsíci

    Great summary. Right length.

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 Před 7 měsíci

    I remember those (PS) . Super cool idea , especially when space is an issue. Now, speakers have a driver on the back or side.
    Drivers and crossovers are far better now, especially when you can measure the output and dial them in.

  • @DIYAudioGuy
    @DIYAudioGuy Před 8 měsíci +1

    Nice job

  • @Padde298
    @Padde298 Před 8 měsíci

    Any chance for you to do a in depth video of the programming in Sigma studio?

  • @stevenveerhoff9208
    @stevenveerhoff9208 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I actually own a pair of the PS 10 model that I purchased in 1984. Refoamed the 10" woofer surrounds 20 years ago, and just re-did the original 3 way x overs as the original caps had gone bad. Unfortunately the tweeters used a soft cloth "polymer" impregnated material where whatever they impregnated the cloth with has deteriorated, so the tweeters have a bad response.
    This video is inspiring, and I may redo them again, or I may just find some soft domes that work with the rest
    The original 10 model was an interesting design, it was a sealed box, and the mid driver was set in a sealed cardboard tube within the box, so almost like having a sealed box attached to a sealed box.
    The bass and mids are still very punchy.

  • @Casey.S.
    @Casey.S. Před 8 měsíci

    Awesome speakers 🔊 👏

  • @lilmangofast
    @lilmangofast Před 8 měsíci +2

    These were sold in the 80s at least in Northern Virginia primarily at a store called Luskins. The PS10 was the one I wanted. Slightly larger.

    • @stevenveerhoff9208
      @stevenveerhoff9208 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I worked for Belmont TV and Stereo, we sold them as well. I have mostly working PS-10s, but the tweeters have degraded and sound bad.

    • @lilmangofast
      @lilmangofast Před 7 měsíci

      @stevenveerhoff9208 Belmont TV was known for their TV commercials in the 70s and 80s. Not sure when they went away. But fond memories going in as a kid and playing with the Tube Tester.

    • @stevenveerhoff9208
      @stevenveerhoff9208 Před 7 měsíci

      @@lilmangofast I was working for them when they did see some of those commercials. The vocals were done by the Starland Vocal Band, who did jingles and promo work before and after Skyrockets in flight.

  • @rikardekvall3433
    @rikardekvall3433 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great! So versatile and nice. Look behind him, a tv on a wall. How about design a picture frame for the tv that contains speakers? How good wouldn’t that look? Sweet

  • @AC_Blanco
    @AC_Blanco Před 8 měsíci +1

    Yes!!!

  • @litoboy5
    @litoboy5 Před 6 měsíci

    Look great

  • @retrojason321
    @retrojason321 Před 4 měsíci

    Awesome build. You inspire me!. Keep up the good work

  • @TheMirolab
    @TheMirolab Před 8 měsíci +1

    I still remember hearing those DA-10's in an audio showroom when I was in college, around 1984. I like them a lot, but liked the JBL's and KEF's just a bit better for definition and imaging. The DA10 had nice bass, if you were truly space-challenged. But I was able to accommodate larger speakers. I have no doubt your new imitations sound better than the originals.

  • @JoshM7
    @JoshM7 Před 8 měsíci

    You got the potentiometer to work with the variable shelf filter on the KABD-4100? I can't get mine to work at all. Guess I need to revisit Sigma Studio.

  • @MDFGamingVideo
    @MDFGamingVideo Před 8 měsíci +1

    What does the waterfall and off-axis look like? And this is just a suggestion but why did you guys not round the corners? Those sharp edges may cause some diffraction.

  • @adirbshem
    @adirbshem Před 8 měsíci +1

    Dang bro what's next a speaker that flat +-0.5db nice beo keep up the good work

  • @emf9
    @emf9 Před 5 měsíci

    Ever done a thin wall mount design?

  • @veroman007
    @veroman007 Před 8 měsíci

    low efficiency and a lot of surface reflections but a cool little cube anyway. you do amazing work!

  • @Nickporter17
    @Nickporter17 Před 5 měsíci

    you should consider doing a wood frame for your tv. Just something thin and simple like a mid century style picture frame. Maybe white oak. The cabinets and speakers are so nice, but the black plastic tv isn't up to the same quality of look.

  • @1QKGLH
    @1QKGLH Před 8 měsíci +1

    I bought a pair of ps-10s to flip. I wish I'd have kept them. They sounded waaaay better than I expected. I'm keeping my eyes open for another.....

  • @FOH3663
    @FOH3663 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I don't understand the Radio Shack reference.

  • @rakitakhan
    @rakitakhan Před 22 dny

    They were NOT from Radio Shack. I had the original PS-8's and they were a 2 way speaker. The PS-8a's were 3 way.

  • @spritual_enlightenment
    @spritual_enlightenment Před 8 měsíci

    👍👍👍

  • @kdrbilgin1803
    @kdrbilgin1803 Před 8 měsíci

    👍

  • @C-man553
    @C-man553 Před 4 měsíci

    No rounder-over?

  • @Elnufo
    @Elnufo Před 8 měsíci +1

    Your Background removal software does some weird things now and then. Nice speakers tho.

  • @Pete.across.the.street
    @Pete.across.the.street Před 8 měsíci

    6:59 doody lol

  • @sbroz1424
    @sbroz1424 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I have a set of those

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Před 8 měsíci

      That’s pretty awesome! How do you like them?

  • @dantheman1998
    @dantheman1998 Před 8 měsíci

    Are the speakers flat for the room? does the program make the speakers flat for the room? so if i use your program it wont be flat in my room?

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Před 8 měsíci +1

      It’s anechoically flat which is what you want. Every speaker, the room will affect it. This being so flat has major advantages with that, as well as the potentiometers that can adjust the bass and treble

  • @leeeagle5994
    @leeeagle5994 Před 3 měsíci

    about 100.50 HZ ?
    Or did you mean ..., one hundred fifty ?

  • @jordanrussell345
    @jordanrussell345 Před 8 měsíci

    How come theres such an enormous push in the HiFi hobby/culture for 2.1 bookshelf speakers? I live in a apt and have no problem runing freestanding floor speakers; whether its 2.1 bookshelf or floors, either one can upset neigbors... But why is almost everything bookshelf sized?
    CZcams reviews are absolutely inundated with this.
    It's very frustrating to have to dig through amp model after amp model's worth of reviews only to find out it's got all of 30 watts!!
    You can have a lovely wall of sound at low SPL and excellent fidelity and still need a couple hundred watts for headroom (and a cool amp if you're running AB). This is especially true if you have harder to drive low ohm speakers or speakers low on sensitivity but with great sound.
    With bookshelves vs floorstanders, as with cars, there's "no replacement for displacement". I've heard fantastic bookshelf speakers and for every model of those I've heard, there's a floorstander that will blow them away.

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Build yourself some proper high efficiency speakers and 30WPC will be more than enough.

    • @jordanrussell345
      @jordanrussell345 Před 8 měsíci

      ​​​​@@mkshffr4936Even for stuff like Polk Audio SRS SDAs, or Electrostatics? Tons of older popular Klipsch models out there that don't respond well to so few watts either. High efficiency ≠ high fidelity. They overlap but there are many speakers out there that sound excellent but have poorer sensitivity, and those little Fosi/Schitt audio setups that everyone raves about are useless in that regard.
      I guess I'm kinda saturated on junk/useless information for my usage case with the whole hobby because so much of it is geared away from floor standing units, the why of which I've yet to comprehend.

    • @andyeighttre
      @andyeighttre Před 8 měsíci

      I think a lot of people don’t want big and loud(perceived loudness) and a small speaker doesnt take up space and is easy to move. I only like small speakers for a very small room, producing(near field), and practicing dj’ing as you can put them on your table very close to your ear. To other person in this thread. I had 50wpc a/b and a pair of older Klipsch Forte and at about 30 watts it was loud enough to piss my gf off if I was playing drum and bass.

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 Před 8 měsíci

      @@andyeighttre "To other person in this thread. I had 50wpc a/b and a pair of older Klipsch Forte and at about 30 watts it was loud enough to piss my gf off"
      Not surprising as that would be about 110dB per channel @ 1m (103dB if both channels driven to 30W.

    • @zarboaudioprojects1430
      @zarboaudioprojects1430 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I think part of the cause is the fact that speaker technology has progressed enough in the past 25 years that we can now have reasonably deep bass in small cabinets without needing larger floor speakers, or even mid-size towers. Because it's possible, and kind of cool and almost counter-intuitive to have a smallish 5-7" speaker producing bass that only 30 years ago required a 10-12" woofer (in most cases) they have just become very popular. Plus all the Class D amps they're coming out with allow for smaller amp sizes, and built-in's. I kind of miss my Realistic 12" three-ways from time to time, but modern stuff mostly sounds better -- maybe just without the punch in the chest feeling.

  • @whoguy4231
    @whoguy4231 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Get a reference speaker to compare all your speakers to man ... Frustrating you just saying ... "They sound great" ... whatever that means.

    • @travisgeorge1285
      @travisgeorge1285 Před 3 měsíci

      If so had to take a wild guess, I’d say the speakers are sounding good.