r/Amiwrong My Friend Wants to Sleep with My Daughter
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:06 A favor
1:39 Top comment
1:54 New song
5:02 Back at ya
8:58 Creeps
11:46 Text screenshots
12:54 Comforting my brother
"Sneaky Snitch" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License: CC By Attribution 3.0 - Komedie
Shazam story:
Gatekeeping small artists is literally sabotaging them. Don't do it.
Yeah there isn't a small time artist that would want someone to "protect" them like that.
How about this for irony? That song has been played on Spotify 136 million times so not a small artist first and foremost.
@@SteviiLove oh!!! I didn't know that, thank you!!
@@SteviiLove what artist is it? If it was mentioned in the video i must have missed it
@@heleninglis9961 The artist was Mary-Alex G, if I remember
Story 2: That Alex G song currently has over 164 million listens on Spotify alone. She did a "great" job at gatekeeping that particular song
Not just that but like pretty much everyone knows another songs of theirs. Like I bet if I made a tumblr poll, asking on if people heard Treehouse by Alex G, there'd be at least an overwhelming majority of yeses
was literally about to comment that the alex g song in question is mainstream af and seeing someone try to gatekeep it was so fucking funny lmfao.
plus as someone who actually listens to indie artists and has several bands with spotify monthly listeners only in the double digits in a number of her playlists, im always more than happy to share music with people and send recommendations to my friends literally all the time hahaha. also king kenny is great!!
@@tweefruitmy friends learn about my music whether or not they want to. My boss and I always bring cool stuff to each other.
Amber is very very stupid.
“Its a small artist”
"Not like we were trying to force her."
Refusing to take no as an answer is an attempt to force her into it. Absolutely insane.
Istg they act like a coerced yes counts as a yes
her husband even more than her, he keep trying to convince the poor boy
exactly what i was thinking. they _might_ have thought they were vulnerable and easy to manipulate.
It's like, there's a name for that! ✨ Coercion ✨ and it's legally rape if you coerce someone into having sex with you 🤦
Rslash said it was bonkers to proposition a pregnant woman at her baby shower. It is bonkers but that's not even the biggest problem here. These people are in their mid to late 40s (did I remember that correctly?), and are trying to coerce two 19yos into having s3x with them, one of whom they've been a family friend of since she was 12.
It's absolutely predatory. Just because "she's legal" doesn't make it okay.
Dang we’re in the Sister Location of r/AITA
We at that mcdongalds AITA
@@Dr_Pepping the CZcams Kids version (even though that’s pointless because they’ve made regular CZcams just CZcams Kids
Great Value r/AITA.
Hits differently after Mat’s video
@@frangonzalo97stfu no one cares about him
He has night terrors? She has possessiveness over her son and who he is comforted by/sleeps in bed with? Classic warning signs of abuse.
Mom is just jealous that he will look for comfort from someone else other than her.
@@stephaniehorne6692 enough to pay for a babysitter? If so, narcissist.
What happens if the kid has night terrors and asks to sleep with the sitter? Is the mom going to terrorize the sitter?
Yeah, chronic night terrors is a major problem. Wonder where the kid's father is in all this?
That is exactly what I thought! That boy is being abused or his mom has unhealthy ideas about him
That's kind of what I was thinking. I mean, to jump from zero to 100 like that screams either projection or an extremely abusive disdain for her daughter.
Gay, straight, bi, the end result is the same. He was with another woman who wasn’t his GF. Run and don’t look back.
And block those who are trying to rationalize his infidelity
You gotta love how people try and justify that, all because someone's in a "protected class". Such bs. How about no, and how about "everyone's equal". Which is how society is SUPPOSED to function.
It's not about genders or what sexually attracts them. He did the one thing you should NEVER do in a relationship - break your partner's trust. And this guy fucking shattered it into tiny pieces with no way to glue them back together.
You know, I'm listening to this book that I really like that I think says it really well. So basically, the story follows people who are unable to move or do things without some kind of personal transport. And because of the technology made at the time to help with their condition, they can have multiple "bodies" in multiple locations. The reason I'm explaining is because one of the characters the main is talking to asks when it's OK to call someone a cheater. And main says this in response, "You had certain expectations and boundaries in your marriage. If your partner steps outside of them, they're cheating." Which I think is a great way of thinking about romantic relationships. You have certain expectations of your partner when entering a romantic relationship of any kind. Step outside of those expectations, cross those boundaries, and it's cheating. Because relationships are all about trust
@@take7upyours822Who the hell besides a possible very very tiny minority of people are trying to justify cheating because one person is a “protected class”? Protected classes exist and should exist because people is those groups are not treated equally by society. They get “special treatment” in necessary circumstances in an attempt to place them on an almost equal level to the privileged of society. It’s an act of equity not actually special treatment though.
Omg the swinger lady using the autism card is disgusting, I’m autistic and I’d never even look at someone who’s over two decades younger than me in that way
it pisses me off when people try to pull the autism card or any mental health card when they don't have it and to try and justify their nastiness. It's VILE
Besides, it sounds like the daughter and her boyfriend were straightforward about not wanting to hook up, so the only reason they "couldn't read the room" was willful ignorance.
I'm guessing they don't actually have autism, it's just a get-out-of-jail-free card, like "kink-shaming" or accusing OP of being bigoted in the first story because she didn't like her BF sleeping with his lesbian friend.
Yeah, I’m also autistic, and would never use a social event to invite anyone for a one night stand, no matter who they were. People are not toys or objects you can eff around with.
This fool’s just throwing a tantrum because she got called out on her own BS.
It made me furious! She's making us all look bad, when she was already making swingers look bad! No, autism is NOT an excuse for responding to "no sex thank u" with "You're no fun, come on!"
Ignoring how long they knew the daughter: NO MEANS NO. NOT INTERESTED MEANS NOT INTERESTED. THE ONLY THING THAT MEANS YES, IS YES
Exactly. There is no "Oh come on, you're no fun, just do it with us" They said no, end of story. The age issue is just another layer to it.
Both daughter and bf told them NO more than once and yet still chose to bother them. Then the friend has to nerve to try to weaponize her autism and say she can’t read a room. Only thing I would’ve done different was drag them out of the baby shower and apologize if need be to DIL. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made others uncomfortable at the party.
But they're autistic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If someone says no you don't get to neg them into a yes, no means no and the OP was far kinder than I would have been. There'd be another Chaos champion if someone tried to pull this crap with my kid.
@@cecejamesable*The Ruinous Powers:* "Interesting."
Bro what 💀 How is sleeping with another woman not cheating lmfao. OP needs to kick those weirdoes to the curb. The audacity.
It's possible (poly relationships & all). But the issue is lack of communication on his part and not getting his partner's consent.
She made it clear she was uncomfortable which should have easily signaled that it was not approval to sleep with another woman.
It's not the first story I've heard where the OP is expected to either not count it against their ex or get over it quickly because the AP is the same gender, and I doubt it'll be the last
@@brandon737polyamory is not cheating, it’s a genuine relationship dynamic when done correctly
@@unvoicedapollo3318poly is not a real relationship. It's just a made up thing for shitbag douchecannos to feel better about cheating. I laugh at how people don't even realize that
Doesn't he know only kissing the homies good night doesn't count as cheating
Story 2: The weirdest thing about this story, is that if i find an artist/youtuber/podcast etc that i really love, i go out of my way to tell people about it because i WANT more people to listen/watch.
This woman is crazy and i’m glad nobody believed her BS.
NTA Op
Some people need to gatekeep everything.
Some people put their entire personalities into "being different", so much so that looking into or already sharing their interests is seen like an invasion. Which is exactly what happened here, Amber needs to grow up and get out of her "not like other girls" phase already. I have Shazam, you literally just open the app, hit a button and it listens to the surrounding area and finds the song using the internet. No one would confuse it for hacking, she was just full blown lying and throwing a fit over not being special.
Yeah I ramble about how my friends or family should listen to a song/show so I can share my love of those things to them. Why wouldn’t someone want that? Just to be exclusive? These kind of people I don’t understand.
Agreed. She likes the artist sooooo much that she'd rather see them lost to obscurity than share their work with others?
I also agree with @Happykastle - I am the type of person and have the type of friends who want to share the things we love with one another to share the enjoyment and happiness of positive things in life.
I suspect this woman is the type who would scream at her BF for saying hello to cashiers, mail carriers, neighbours, etc. because 'how dare he talk to other women?!?' when he was just making polite small talk the way we humans do. Very toxic.
Second weirdest thing, it’s not actually a small artist. Alex. G has 7.6 million monthly listeners on Spotify. Like I said in another comment, that’s like calling Palaye Royale, The Struts, or Set It Off underground music.
That last story has me wondering about what mom does with Ben & why he has such bad nightmares all the time....
So many times an accusation is really a confession.
I think OP needs to have a serious chat with Ben.
Babyshower... they did not hit on the pregnant woman, she was 26yo and not OP's daughter. The daughter who was hit on was 19. It really doesn't make it much better, if at all.
Rslash needs an editor or at least someone to fact check him before he publishes. There’s been more and more errors lately.
@@angangeli2497 i feel like he has an editor. i could swear he's spoken about an editor in the past, but i could be wrong
@@WishGender He does have an editor
@@angangeli2497 He does have an editor but you’re right about there being CONSTANT errors lately. Like I don’t know if he has personal stuff going on rn that’s effecting his work, but literally his ONLY job is reading the words that are in front of him and then comprehending those words enough to make a couple brief statements about them. Yet in EVERY episode his reading comprehension is so bad that he somehow misses major details/plot points of the stories he reads.
That’s on top of the fact that he misreads important information in every episode as well. For instance, in the post about the middle child’s wedding and her garbage parents, he says “all I said after that was that I shouldn’t have said what I did to our parents and…”, which was SO confusing because I was like “why on earth is she apologizing??” and then I realized the post ACTUALLY read “all HE said after that”. That makes a MAJOR difference in the story. What’s the point in having an editor if he doesn’t correct the many mistakes r/slash makes when he can’t read the posts correctly on his own??
His takes lately have also been WAY off base. It’s getting harder and harder to listen to him. Idk what’s going on but I really hope it gets better soon.
Could mom in the last story be projecting? Ben is suffering from pretty severe nightmares after all and "she's molesting him" is a weird conclusion to jump to with nothing to back it up...
I don't want to point fingers but it does sound like the mom is a toxic boy mom
For people that don't know what toxic boy moms are they are moms that are making being a mother of a least one boy there whole personality and sometimes have emotional incest with there sons like making them there replacement husbands
Honestly… maybe.
there's another thread on here this explains it all
Just to clarify, Rslash didn’t properly comprehend the 4th story. OP said her DIL was pregnant, not her actual daughter. Her daughter was only attending the baby shower with her boyfriend. 12:41
ETA - I thought OP was a man instead of a woman. All fixed! (:
The OP is female, not male. But you're right he was wrong with who was propositioned, but it doesn't make it any better.
I caught that too. But, I also thought it odd that his entire reasoning was 'yuck, they asked a pregnant woman to sleep with them'. Instead of you know, someone they had been family friends with since she was TWELVE...
Came to say the same thing. It's an issue for MANY reasons, just not this one.
@@SerenaSilverMoon there is no indication OP is female.
I would love to know the exact work routine of rslash, because I feel like he records 1 day every other week, so he messes up more often. I've noticed quite a few mistakes like this one over the last year or two (I mean I get the reason, if that is the case), and it's just...wrong to judge people on something they didn't even do, it's just because you didn't get the story correctly.
is it just me, or does anyone feel the same?
Story 3: I mean, what were they expecting? They just shoved OP away constantly and gave preferential treatment to her brothers. I'm glad everyone is starting to light their butts for their poor treatment to OP.
Also, it's unfair? Boo hoo, go run back to your babies
Its just so typical of such delusional people, isnt it? THEY get to be nasty, rude, abusive and cold, but when their victim fights back and defends themselves even once? Suddenly the victim is considered the bad guy. Typical :/
But they aren’t pedos. That’s slander.
Sure it’s out of line but it doesn’t matter as she is an adult so it doesn’t matter.
fact I love OP aunt shut the mom down when she try play the victims on Facebook and the grandma talk aobut he shouldn't said that fuck that I bet grandma favorite the boys to and now OP
That’s the thing. Delusional people believe they’re always in the right and can’t comprehend the idea of them making a mistake
@@Thecommentator-hc1fzIf you try to sleep with someone you’ve like my known since childhood, you’re a pedo
Story 1: That’s cheating
Story 2: That isn’t invasive. She doesn’t own a song, and she’s apologetic because she got called out.
Story 3: the rest of your family dragging your parents and siblings is LIT
Story 4: PAUSE. I’m autistic and never once have I hit on someone’s child I’ve known since they were a minor. They’re always a baby to me.
Story 5: dude I’ve fallen asleep with my then-13YO baby brother in law on the couch bc neither of us could hang on NYE. I was snoring and he’d flopped over in his sleep and had his head cattywompus on my leg, so his mom gave us blankets and a pillow and took pictures. I’m twice his age and not even blood related to the runt (affectionate), but knew how I treated him like a sibling and didn’t make it weird. She was just happy he felt safe with me because that’s one more adult for him to trust that wasn’t a parent but was trustworthy.
I have autism too and i never do this sh*t too because it is wrong and disrespectful
Yep I'm autistic and I have ADHD Story 4 is a very simple situation if I have a daughter and some grown-ass adult decides to flirt with them to put it simply they're going to go missing and they're never going to be found and if they are found it's going to be in a burnt up car on the side of the road with their body charged because they had a "accident"
Same with story 4. that's some chomo shit.
My older brother and me shared beds and rooms on holiday all the time and we didn’t even have a very close relationship. People make the most innocent things weird and creepy. That kind of reaction tells the little bro that it’s inappropriate to be affectionate with his sister what’s good about teaching him that?
Bro I'm on the spectrum and 1. I wouldn't go with someone who's literally around my mom's age let alone someone who knew me since I was a child and 2. I maybe horrible at reading the room but I know the concept of no means no something that the couple failed to know and realize
I’m sure the mom will change her mind and come crawling back to beg OP for babysitting when she realizes that hiring a sitter costs money.
Probably not. A normal parent's mind doesn't automatically go all dirty when they see their fully clothed children sleeping in the same bed. Also, the little guy having nightmares all the time is not normal. We all had them once in a while as kids, but not constantly. There is something wrong in the relationship between the mom and the kid.
@@madalinamazareanu2770dude that what I was worried about too hope we’re wrong tho because if not, the mother just cut off the only person that could really protect him
💯👍🏿
That's actually a good point, especially considering he went to his sister first after the nightmare and not mom, when for most kids their first instinct is to go to a parent/mom when they're scared@@madalinamazareanu2770
I came here to say the exact same thing.
Wow, the swinger couple are more than creeps if they view someone they've known since twelve in that way, I don't care if they're adults now.
I’ve heard people from the autistic community speak out against the couples vile actions but I’m curious to know how those in poly relationships feel? I may be putting words in other peoples mouths but I could see them being disgusted as well. Stories I’ve heard about people in healthy poly relationships is that they strongly read the room when looking for partners
@@lorilancaster5917 I don't doubt they do. Not everyone is into poly relationships and approaching the wrong people with that kind of proposition can burn bridges.
@@lorilancaster5917 Thing is, being poly and being swingers aren't the same thing. They're similar, sure, but there's key differences. Swingers may have foursomes, but generally the idea is that they're not sleeping with their spouse and instead sleeping with at least one member of another couple. Also to my knowledge it's entirely sexual and does not lead to a joining of the two couples into one polycule. Polyamory is more varied in its functions, namely it can be both purely about sex and/or loving multiple people.
So I can't tell you how other swingers might perceive this couple, but from a poly perspective I would say it's wrong on all sorts of levels. Putting aside the age difference, dating the child of a friend is just creepy, especially since they knew her from a young age. The very least they could have done is spoken to OP about her and partner's comfort level in regards to dating their child. Though personally I just find it kinda gross and I don't think I could ever find my friend's kid attractive, even if I met them as a legal adult. Even if the parents weren't uncomfortable, this couple actively tried to pressure the daughter and bf, which is just a big no in general. And then there's the setting; a babyshower is a totally inappropriate place to seek out new companions. There's no reason to bring a sexual energy to a party that's celebrating an unborn baby.
Hoped it satisfied your curiosity, and sorry if it was a bit rambling
Well, I mean, the very fact it means that you and your partner are literally agreeing that it's okay to "cheat" on each other, should be a hint. If two people are okay with that, I'm sure they're okay with other things, looked down upon. Just saying.
Can we talk about how absolutely insane it is to tell someone “don’t be too affectionate” AT THEIR OWN WEDDING?
Story 3: "I can't be too affectionate because you know how guys get around two girls being together." Do OP's parents expect her brothers to perv ON THEIR SISTER just because her spouse will be a woman? It's either gross that they would jump to that conclusion or they know that about their sons.
Story 4: "It's not like she was trying to force your daughter to have sex with her husband." No, she was just trying to badger your daughter into agreeing to have sex with her husband. Haivng your daughter's back is not kink-shaming, and I'd have a serious think about if I want to continue being friends with them or the people who'd tolerate them.
Also on story 4, they're trying to blame the situation on autism? This isn't a case of not reading the room, this is a case of hearing "No" from two different people and continuing to pester them about it.
Off topic entirely: is your PFP Pokey Toki?
The last story is a perfect example of why we shouldn't Parentify and sexualize children... 🙄 Poor Ben had a nightmare and he went to his big sister's/second mom's (because it sounds like that's what OP is) bed to seek comfort but because he is 10, suddenly it's inappropriate?! Ugh.
Story 3: OP isn't wrong, this is just a straight forward case of favoritism and golden child BS. The parents basically couldn't take what they dished out, so they called OP the unfair one? No, that's BS. They made their bed, now lay in it. I said it before, I have no sympathy for parents like these. Hold your ground, they don't deserve sympathy.
And all they want at this point is to take any credit for OPs success and her wallet.
Story 2 is the shazam story. I think you meant story 3.
@@yabe-kfptentacultist Sorry, edited.
FACTS
Story 4: Yeah, this is two well-grown adults and a 19 year old. Even if the daughter is a legal adult NOW, there's the possibility that this idea has existed for multiple years. The autistic card is pretty sh**ty too because autism doesn't make you want to screw someone less than half your age.
Yeah it's pretty discussing that they use the autism cart, that will hurt other people with autism there just perverts that think just because the girl they know sinds *she was 12* is now a legal adult they can do what they want with her (and she and her boyfriend said no but they were still trying to convince them to say yes, like come on we all learnd that no means no)
First off, I am not condoning anything that the couple did, or their excuses, however they're not trying to use autism to justify wanting to sleep with OP's daughter. What they're trying to say is, because of their autism, they didn't understand that it was wrong of them to proposition the daughter and boyfriend at the baby shower, nor did they realize that they were uncomfortable with it. However, as someone who is autistic, this is absolute bs and they're just using their disability as a scapegoat to try and get away with it.
EXACTLY.
Lol it's a complete bs angle. Even Elon Musk is considered a high functioning autist, and we all know he's a billionaire genius. People try all kinds of crap to try and excuse their bad habits.
I’m pretty sure telling a lesbian that she’s still a virgin if she hasn’t slept with a man is bigoted. Also, Mary by Alex G is a song that isn’t hard to decipher, it can be interpreted in two ways, it can be about marijuana or about someone in a relationship about a toxic girl.
It isn't bigoted. They were friends and were joking around. You're allowed to joke with your friends without being accused of being a bigot. Plus, she agreed, and had sex with him, so i don't think she was offended, so you probably shouldn't be.
@@jdzspace33 whether she agreed or not, they are still both wrong and she's not a virgin, sounds like an excuse to me
@ferist2216 by the definition of the word, yes, she was. We don't call a girl or who uses toys or hands not a virgin, and we don't call a girl or guy who only does oral sex not a virgin.
So yes, by the definition of the word, and how is used current day. She was
@@ferist2216 and i agree that they were both wrong.
@@jdzspace33Which definition are you referring to, cause a virgin is someone who has never had sexual intercourse and Amy said she has done it with women before.
For the second story (gatekeeping song), Mary by Alex G is not even “underground.” It was a sound of TikTok for a while. OP is so not in the wrong. If someone wants to know the song, share it and maybe you can enjoy it with each other
At first I could understand the girl not telling OP because she was busy. However a simple “I’m busy give me a moment!” would do. Everything after that was just her being annoying. Oh! And no one accepts PMS as an excuse especially when you use it on another woman
Last story:
I genuinely don't get what was "inappropriate" about what OP did. I'm the youngest in my family and I had to share beds with my siblings until I was about 14. as long as you have common sense and don't do anything stupid it's perfectly fine for a sibling to share their bed with a sibling.
Story 4, How in the world are people defending the awful couple? They knew her since she was 12 years old, She probably saw them as an aunt and uncle to her.
This whole situation is disgusting and the fact that they can't accept the answer no, and kept pushing them is weird. I can't believe people are trying to defend their actions. It makes it worse because what if they were sexualizing her before she was even an adult. I would feel so grossed out and disgusted if someone that close to me did that.
I feel so sorry for the daughter. She must have been so upset realizing that they wanted that from her.
Story 3 was GLORIOUS, SWEET KARMIC JUSTICE!
It got even better when the rest of the family sided with OP.
it makes me so happy when someones family sides with then against nasty parents,sadly not everyone is that lucky
"What's your favorite band?"
Linkin Park.
"What's your favorite genre?"
Yes
Last story : OP needs to get the real story out to her family before her mom can make up some bs story about her coming in on OP half naked and on top of her brother or something. If she's willing to overreact to this degree, she probably willing to lie to her other family members about OP as well to "justify" her actions.
Story 2: so she's one of those people that complains about basic and mainstream anything, but doesn't realize she's actually the most basic person you can meet. And she knew no one would be on her side so she lied about what happened in a BS effort to make you somehow feel bad for wanting to know what the song was. But not even that worked because people know how petty she is I knew she was lying so now she's trying to back track. I would ignore her, actor insulting you, lying about what happened, sending her family to demand an apology from you and is now only sorry because no one believed her, I wouldn't want to be around someone so desperate for attention, to play the victim, and to be the different person.
I'm gay (Female 46). I have been with men, I was previously married. My partner (Female 53) has never once been with a man. The idea of heteronormal sex kinda grosses her out. All the "gold star" lesbians I know want nothing to do with man woman sex. Most responsible friends if they did decide to have relations with anyone would check to make sure that person isn't in a relationship with someone else. These jerks are making excuses for bad behavior. Gay or straight it's no different cheating is cheating no matter your orientation.
That's what makes it all the more confusing. By what op has given us, it would be like...if it was the opposite of your experiences.
Where you had only ever been with women and then decided to try men for whatever reason.
Not suggesting I don't believe the story, necessarily, but if it wasn't framed in the sense of it being posted by the cheated on partner, it would almost come across like some sort of male ego power fantasy. I.e. :
"You're a lesbian? Pfft. You've just never got it from the right guy! Allow me to introduce you to my penis."
To which the "lesbian" actually says "bet" and the man actually succeeds, because he's just that amazing and his penis is just that great.
And all the whos in whoville that day say it grew three sizes plus one. And everyone clapped.
It's a very strange story as told... I would expect the friend to be put off or laugh at the extended offer. Not actually take him up on it. Much less sabotage her friendship over it. Especially if she genuinely was an actual lesbian.
My only guess is the friend went around "advertising" it in order to get male attention, maybe?
Like "oh I'm so down bad for women I just blah blah blah I could NEVER with a man...unless?" Which might suggest she was after OPs boyfriend from the get go?
Just my two cents on the last story. It's less about sexual activity and more about the sister got what the mom felt exclusive to more than likely. That op was encroaching on her territory as a mother.
Despite the fact that OP has also been a mother figure for him, if not more of a mom to him.
This!!
It sound like emotional incest like the mom is jealous that she isn't the only person that her son is comfortabel to sleep next to
Talk about creepy.
Hey rslash, just a minor quick fix. In that story about swingers, they weren't hitting on the baby mama. They were hitting on the much younger sister.
Story4: it’s not wrong to proposition a couple, it is weird to do a baby shower, it’s bad to not listen to the first “haha no” and keep pushing, it’s f-ing creepy to do it with a girl you have known since she was 12
Last Story. Might be too much reddit, but I'd be concerned that the mom was grooming the little brother and just assumed the worst because she does the worst
yeah, i thought about that too. her reaction seemed more like jealousy than concern.
I also unfortunately thought that way as well as soon as OP said the brother had nightmares along with the title of the story and then the mom’s reaction kind of sold it even more 😭😭
Yeah. If mom was really worried something bad happened she would’ve taken son the the hospital and have someone ask him questions. However she didn’t either because she was too tired or has something to hide. Only other thing I can think of is the mom is mad that OP is a better mother figure.
I know the word "groomer" is thrown around pretty regularly nowadays, but I'd sit down and ask my daughter if this is the first time they've talked about stuff like this, or if this had been brought up any time in the past.
That first story is 100% a porn plot, right down to the lesbian not-lesbian.
So not only is she “not like all the other girls” she’s “not like all the other lesbians” in that she’ll slut herself and sleep with boys in a relationship. I’m glad OP got out before they tried any other bs.
That's what it sounds like anyway, if it wasn't framed as the op being cheated on. Otherwise it's almost a masturbatory power fantasy
"Yep. I'm so good and my dick is so awesome I turned a lesbian straight."
And everyone clapped.
Only thing missing from the porn plot is the friend cheating on the ex bf with the same friend, and then for the third act they all join together for reasons, and they all live happily ever after and no one gets jealous hurt or upset and all the relationships are fixed back somehow.
Story two:
“How many music snobs does it take to change a lightbulb?”
*disgusted* “You don’t KNOW?!?”
Last story.
Definetly emotional incest. And the mother felt that OP made Ben "cheat" on her
Yeah that whole post screams toxic boy mom
Story 2: Imagine being such a bad hipster that you're trying to gatekeep a song with over 100 million streams on Spotify.
I was so confused too. Like I’d consider a small artist someone with less than a 100k monthly listeners on Spotify.
/s But it's so DEEP, obviously the OP would never understand lyrics like:
'Mary is the girl that I wanna kiss
She's got big red eyes and big red lips
She's got big sharp teeth and big fat hips'
God I hate hipsters.
Story 2: That kind of behavior actively hurts up and coming artists. New or not well known artists want their work out there for people to hear because the more people who know about them the more money they could potentially be making. Gatekeeping music doesn't make you look cool. Its standoffish and hurts potential chances for making new friends or bonding with current ones. I think the girl probably blames her PMS on a lot of her tantrums when she realizes when people don't side with her.
That last one hits home way too hard. When I was like 7 or 8 my older cousins were over and my female cousin crawled under the covers on the opposite side of the King bed, her brother sat at the foot playing my N64, and I was on top of the covers on the other side. Mom came barging in slamming the door against the wall, berating me for it and told me how I was being inappropriate and only I got punished for it.
Last story, i think I would write a message to your mother explaining that you brother had a nightmare and asked to sleep in your bed afterwards. Then say that you need a break from babysitting for a while
I would instead tell everyone the truth before the mom creates her story to tell everyone
Oh story 3 was so satisfying. Im glad the rest of that family is on OP's side.
Ikr it feels soooooo good to know that there are still good family's in this world and not the once that say; how dare you do this to your parents that treated you like this and worse
Yeah, I'm all fine for swingers, even propositioning younger people, but OP's reasonings for being upset are 150% valid. Knowing the daughter since she was 12 is just wrong and disgusting. Being a friend's daughter makes it super weird (and semi incestual if they were like "uncle/auntie" kind of friends). Also, A Baby Shower? Only worse place to try and pick up would be a funeral.
Swingers do that everywhere they go. They have no boundaries. The thing is they believe if they get someone on a random event or place, it’s a conquest and they will turn whoever into one of them
I misheard “your siblings need us more” as “your siblings need a S’more” and it made me chuckle for a minute when I realized
Last story is wild. Literally was talking to my siblings the other day about when there was a week long black out from a snow storm when we were kids and we all shared my big bed to stay warm. It’s super normal to sleep next to your siblings. That is some Freud logic right there, super gross when people think all relatives are just waiting to do the devils tango together.
"how DARE you look up a song that I played OUT LOUD."
Re: sleeping in the same bed as her brother, my brother and I used to share a bed often. He's 2 years older than me, and from the ages of about 4 to 6, I would have night terrors where I'd be screaming and thrashing around in my sleep. His room was right next to mine, so he'd come in and wake me up and then sleep next to me because they didn't happen if I slept next to someone.
When I was probably 7 or 8 and he was 9 or 10, we were staying in our aunts RV with her while on a family trip and she got so upset about not having enough beds and we said we were fine sharing and she lost it. I didn't understand it then and I don't understand it now. Most siblings don't have inappropriate relationships with each other.
12:48 FYI: They weren't hitting on the pregnant (26yo) DIL, they were targeting the (19yo) daughter and BF. They sound pretty desperate considering they refused to read the room.
As someone who is Bi, Poly, and autistic (waiting on diagnosis but therapist said it was a very high chance) that story was DISGUSTING. They've known the daughter since she was 12 🤢 THAT IS NOT OKAY.
I agree. It's disturbing and despite them all technically being adults now, it's predatory.
Story 1 - "It's not cheating, she's a lesbian". What.
Story 2 - Lmao
Story 3 - Karma. OP's extended family are great (for the most part)
Story 4 - She broke my brain.
I'm autistic and I can confidently say that being autistic doesn’t make you a pedo
Fans that dont want to share the 'cool thing' are the bane of all small artists. People sharing their art/music is how small artists grow and are able to make a hobby into a career.
story 3: the fact that they knew op was throwing the line back at them is evidence of their guilt. they deserve all of this.
Story 1: I'm gonna be honest as soon as he said "it's not that deep" I KNEW him and the group would be that kind of people and have that kind of response.
I've never known anyone that unironically says "it's not that deep" about things that don't minimise or ignore things that are, in fact, 'that deep'
Story 3: A No is a No. Cutting contact is the right thing. Dropping the question one time might be okay but to try that hard to get them to swap is not in my books. I would only think that OP overreacted if their had daughter asked to swap.
PMS is not an excuse get your shit in order Amber
Exactly. The worst I ever had pms, I broke down crying over dropped cake. That's it. No lashing out or spreading rumours, just a half hour crying. I never had bad pms, but I can't imagine starting rumours and saying someone stole from me because hormones bad
The babysitting sister should've busted into Mom's room and been like "what the hell is going on in here?!"
Ben initiates all the "sleeping in sister's bed" stuff and it's the sister's fault. Having to pay a babysitter from now on seems to be sufficient justice. Sister is free from all that obligation.
Sorry but if the mom jumped to that random over the top conclusion.... 🤷🏻♀️ means she's thinking about it.
I think it's one of those toxic boy mom situations and she got jealous
@@rochie4865 usually people see what they want. If you think you're pregnant you notice every pregnant woman around you, if you think you wanna buy a new car, you notice every car dealer around. The fact that that mom jumped to accuse for the daughter of incest doesn't scream jealousy just for being a jealous mom... If that were the case she would've been angry about stealing my kid or favoritism, not insinuating there's something sexual there.
@@rochie4865 yeah that was my thought also like why would you think it is inappropriate, my younger brother also wanted to sleep with me when he had a nightmare
@@ElleD308or it’s just an excuse to be angry that in the mom’s mind makes her seem like the good guy in the situation.
Story 1: okay ask him this, why out of all of those guys he specifically had to do it? That entire friend group guys and the one with a girlfriend have to sleep with her to lose her man card? By the way that's not a thing if you had sex you are not a virgin that was just a very flimsy excuse. You're not homophobic for being upset that your boyfriend cheated on you, block all these idiots numbers because you have every right to be upset and him
Only thing I can think of his that he acted melodramatic when she made her so called revelation.
To be fair. There is a difference between traditional sex, oral sex, and masterbation.
Nobody calls a girl who uses toys and her hands on herself by has never been with a guy "not a virgin"
Having sex is a pretty specific thing, and what girls do to each other typically doesn't count because it isn't different from what a girl does to herself when single. The only difference is oral sex, which, again, a girl (or guy) who only has oral sex isn't considered "not a virgin."
So by the definition of the word, yes, she was a virgin. I understand why that might hit the ear funny or irritate someone, but that doesn't change his the word is used even to this day.
@@jdzspace33 That's because those are things not a person.
You don't lose your virginity to things. But things can be used on you to lose your virginity. Get the difference.
If you do it to yourself it's masturbation masturbation is not, sex involves and at least another person.
@wimsylogic65 that's not true. Hand jobs don't cause you to lose your virginity, and neither does oral sex. Those are all done by other people, and they do not take your virginity.
I'm sorry, but no, virginity is used to describe penetrative sex from one reproductive organ into another.
Hands,feet,tongues,toys, none of them apply.
I understand that culturally, we use the word virginity to validate "real sex" and, in doing so, exclude same sex relations.
But you can arbitrarily make the word mean something it doesn't mean. If you could, you move the goalposts for everyone, and that isn't something we do with that word.
I'm sorry, and i know it sounds exclusionary. But you can only lose your virginity one way. If you are doing other things , then the virginity is intact.
It works the same if you are young or old, straight or gay. It's universal.
You don't have to like it. In fact, i understand why you wouldn't, but it is still the reality of the situation. Her virginity was as she said, intact.
Last story - I've shared a bed with my brother (almost 8 years younger) many times over the years for various reasons. We build a pillow wall and straight sleep back to back on the edge of the bed as far away from each other as we can lol. Absolutely nothing inappropriate about it, sometimes there's only one bed and neither of us are sleeping on floor lol. That mom is the disgusting one making the situation into an appropriate one. Lots of siblings share beds at times for whatever reason and it's the farthest thing from inappropriate. Ugh, I don't even want to say the word s**ual because it's just so 🤢. The mom needs her head checked if that's the first place her thoughts went.
Story Three: NTA
Parents: Oh YOU’RE not worth the love, you’re the middle child and a girl! You’re just being selfish, OUR needs comes before yours right now!
Also Parents: WHY are you being a butthole to us?! We just wanna come to the wedding, where WE want the wedding about our SONS!
This is just the parents’ excuses to play favorites with their “Autistic” sons and spoil them while ignoring the middle child, a GIRL, in the family.
Their actions against OP is beyond toxic: not buying the things she needed for school or such, not coming to OP’s special events, not celebrating the holidays with her…
And when OP DOESN’T want to invite her parents and brothers to the wedding, the parents throws a tantrum and makes a “Where did we go WRONG?!” post online like the hypocrites they are.
Yeah, no. They have their “babies”, that should be good enough for them, not flaunt them off and making them the stars of every event.
Also, the Grandma knows SQUAT about what OP went through most of her life, so for her to say “What you did was a low blow” is a joke!
Story 2: Trick is an amazing album and Alex G deserves way more attention and praise for the work he put into it. If you truly love and support the music you listen to you'd 100% want other people to enjoy it too. Gatekeeping small artists only hurts the artist and serves no purpose. Music is music and we should share it with each other.
That last story... The mom is the reason most little boys develop unhealthy sexual tendencies. I slept with my sister (I was like 8 and she was 15) when I was little some times when we moved to a new place because it felt safer for a little bit. It's not about anything more than security for a child.
But that kid is likely going to now associate any kind of affection as sexual in nature later. Bad parenting right there. Normalize platonic affection!
Story 4:Even if you take away 1)OP's and the Daughter's relationship to these people, 2)The setting of a baby shower 3)And the ages of those involved you are still left with the fact a swinger couple approached a couple that was not interested. Yeah Dan was the one stuck dealing with Jay who replied that 'he was no fun' when Dan kept saying no. No means NO, it doesn't matter what your kink is. That's not kink shaming, that is setting clear boundaries.
Last story: the mom was totally jealous and didn’t want op to be the one the little brother went to for comfort the mom claiming it was inappropriate is just an excuse to be angry at her.
Story 1: OP needs to run, not walk, away from that relationship and friend circle. I’m biromantic with a loving partner and I’d never joke about something like that
If I were the sister in the last story, I would be having a careful chat with my brother.
We have a situation where an essentially fully-dressed older sister is babysitting her essentially fully-dressed younger brother. The brother, as he is known to do, has a nightmare and goes to sister for comfort. And... mom immediately goes to foul assumptions and veiled accusations about the sister's behaviour.
It makes me wonder what mommy dearest is doing when OP's little brother is going to his mother after having a nightmare...
Please make a note. Story 2 is exactly what happens to girls who play games on the internet. That is gatekeeping and that is not what a true fan does
It's ridiculous
Accurate analogy. I hate it when certain groups of people are "gatekeeped" from certain games by other players. It doesn't happen as much now, but it still happens.
It's not "just girls", its just gatekeepy people being gatekeepy for literally no reason. Tho. I do I wonder what that girl would have done had, say, a friend been in the room and had just said "Oh. Its mary by alex g".
Like, wtf would she have done then? Screamed at them for answering a simple question??
OP1: "It's not cheating because she's a lesbian."
I don't even have words.
Story 4: who are these friends that don't care that this couple that was trying to score with daughters that they knew since she was a preteen, during her baby shower? And they say it was just a suggestion but when they clearly weren't comfortable and said no they kept trying to push on them. Like why would any parent be cool with their friend trying to seduce their kids? And of course he tried to blame it on her autism, anything they can threaten you when they have no case and it has to not be true in order for it to be defamation of character and I would say trying to seduce someone named knew when they were little isn't exactly not creepy and a red flag.
It wasn't during her baby shower, rslash misread. It was the sister in law for OP's daughter, so the mother to be is married to her sibling to make her the aunt.
Sounds like Ben is looking for a maternal comfort that he's clearly not getting from their mom.
Last story. Makes me think the mom is doing stuff to Ben.. only perverts think like that.
Her being lesbian does it change the fact that he cheated with another woman?
And not only did she consent, she encouraged the affair.
Man that last story is so odd. My little brother used to sneak into my bed when he had nightmares too. We’re closer in age than OP and her brother but still.
That last story Um.. I think I'd be questioning the relationship with the mom... if her first thought is that her daughter is being inappropriate because the son was sleeping in the same bed, WTH is the mother doing to the child when they are alone in bed?
Story 3 I called Sarah and Dan on their bs I am autistic and I will NEVER in my life act like that
And if they really are on the spectrum, how do they act at work? I bet they know not to boundary stomp at work.
@@lorilancaster5917 exactly
Story 2: She was trying to act special then got offended when she was suddenly proven she wasn't.
Also, imagine playing a song out loud then crying about someone being invasive when they _~checks notes~_ find the song and save it to their playlist to listen to themselves.
She's not mad because Op invaded her privacy, she's mad because she tried to act superior and got sucker punched off her high horse.
Story 1: That's cheating. And it's kind of gross that she says they started dating when she was 17 and he was 20. *shudder*
just a note about story 4, the baby shower was for OPs 26 year old DiL, not the 19 year old daughter that they were propositioning. Doesn't make it any better but it's accurate
One of the things I heard in highschool that stuck with me. "I'm right handed. If I slap you with my left hand, does it count as slapping since I'm right handed?" It doesn't matter whether you or they are gay. Cheating is cheating.
First story: ask the bf if it's ok for her to be with the girl because she never had her girl virginity lost, and see how he reacts
Or more of a direct comparison if it'd OK for her to sleep with a male friend because he's only hooked up with guys in the past
I get the feeling your suggestion would probably just excite the boyfriend and he'd agree
Most guys would shrug and asked if they could watch
The last story sets off so many red flags for me. Like the mom is mad at her kid for letting her younger brother sleep in the same bed as her. Something which he does with his mom. The mom assumes OP has ill intentions so either the mom tho am that because SHE has ill intentions by letting her son sleep in her bed or she gets something out of her son going to her and sleeping in her bed so she got jealous that the son went to OP. Either way the mom is weird and has weird dynamics with the son. The facts she tested so strongly says a lot
Story 2: as a pretty big fan of Alex G whenever they said, this song was Mary by Alex G I audibly laughed. That’s one of the most popular songs.💀 I hate gate keepers
Story 2:
I find it funny how shes acting like the song is so niche and underground when it's been a viral sound on tiktok for sometime 😭😭
That last story, I really don't see what is wrong with sleeping in the same bed as your sibling. I done it a bunch of times with my sister and we adults, me 22, her 19,Op mom is weird.
As a Sapphic, the first story makes me sick on so many levels. I’m so sick of people thinking sex doesn’t count if it doesn’t involve a penis. It’s homophobic, invalidating, heteronormative, and just plain wrong. It takes me back to the purity culture nonsense of anything outside of penetration doesn’t count. And that whole friend group ganging together to gaslight the OP? Ugh. This one turned my stomach.
My mom tried pulling the same shit on me(I'm pan, and had a trans bf).
Like, thanks mom, but I'm not going to listen to the woman who cheated on my dad and then left him so she could sleep with 2-3 different guys a week LMFAO
Sex that isn't penis penetration doesn't count in the context of virginity. To this specific situation that was accurate.
@@lillylovegood2300Your mom told you a simple fact. Being unhappy with her behaviour doesn't make her incorrect.
Story 1: ARE THEY ALL NUTS??
No they’re fucking
Story 5. I have 2 siblings, I'm 30, my sister is 22 and my brother 19. We used to cuddle together, one in each arm. Even one time, when my brother was small and half sleep he head hammered my boob like he did with the pillow. We STILL remember that day because 1) hurted like hell 2) it was funny. We NEVER sexualized enything and we still cuddle to this day
Story 3: Low? Or not low enough!
For years OP has been put on the shelf watching while her brothers get everything they wanted while she had to BEG for scraps from the parents
And the one first thing the parents asked (well demanded) after realizing their daughter was getting married, was to situate the wedding around the brothers' needs and restricting the things OP wants. The ONE day that is all about the couple coming together, would have been changed to make the brothers once again the center of attention.
They have not changed. Throwing that line back in their face was the very LEAST cruel thing OP could have done
Story 4: Oh wow where to start with this -_-
So the couple were looking to hook up AT A BABY SHOWER was already weird enough. The fact that these 'family friends' knew OPs daughter since she was 12...that just screams the creep who waits until them kids are legal. And they did get an answer to their proposition, it was no. But they still tried to pressure OPs daughter and her BF to coming back to their place, refusing no as an answer. And when called out on it, they pull the 'don't kink shame me', 'your daughter is an adult' 'we'll sue', and the all mighty 'we're autistic' cards.
They're not sorry and given the next opportunity they'll try and do it again. And I'll be scared because A.) they don't know boundaries and B) the word No is not in their dictionary
Your videos always help me to start my morning. They give me a reason to get up and get my day started!
Story 3 what did OP's parents expect you treated your daughter as unwanted so now your unwanted parents
And from the small bit of things that should and shouldn't happen at the wedding they did a poor job a raisins there boys
On a different note, I hope OP doesn’t elope. She deserves to have this wonderful wedding. The parents and brother only care about the wedding itself with the plan of coming off as wonderful people. I think by eloping, they might win.
in the swinger story, something that caught my eyes/ears that didn't get mentioned further, the boyfriend literally told the man, NO, clear as can be and the guy kept pushing. add that to the rest of the situation and it's even more concerning, it all adds to the idea that those people were out for the kids all along, heavy groomer vibes to say the least.
Last story: I’m pretty dang sure the reason this kid has nightmares is because of his mother. I mean they were asleep on the same bed and the witch slammed open the door at 3 in the morning scaring both of them awake, yelling and slamming more forcing her child to sleep with her instead!? Yeah she is the cause of his nightmares. Or the very least she is grooming that poor boy into only sleeping in bed with his mother.
This reminds me of the story where the mother SA-s her middle boy and wanted him to get the apartment his sibling is renting out for free just so she could have more alone time with him since the dad was around
Nah the first one is crazy as hell💀💀
That "lesbian" friend was just being disgusting, how could she have sex if she wasn't into him at all? That would have been gross to her. So not actually the gold star lesbian.
On story two the line “don’t get hung up on petty things” is an Alex G reference, which had me a Cackling
When a child that young is having multiple nightmares every week, my brain goes straight to either child neglect (emotional) or, unfortunately, sexual abuse. I am very worried for Ben. And now, the only person that Ben would trust to tell is banned from seeing/contacting him.