r/Bestof My Friend Wants to KIDNAP My Baby
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0:00 Intro
0:09 Friend goes nuts
11:47 Comment on similar case
12:22 Another comment
13:03 Dropping out
"Sneaky Snitch" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) License: CC By Attribution 3.0 - Komedie
If you're a lactating mother and you think that you could nurse someone's baby, you would have to ask first and NOT do it without permission. But, a woman who is NOT lactating... doing this WITHOUT permission?! So crazy!
This, but also people need to educate themselves on bacteria and how fragile babies can be. A baby nursing on someone who isn’t their biological parent could be put at a larger risk of infection, it’s just not safe even with permission.
EXACTLY! In any moment there was a talk or any kind of asking for consent, also the point of Nicole about bacteria.
That lady is delulu, she went above and beyond behind op's back, and no way she is going to stop, she is going to do something else and OP needs all the help she can get to take care of her, her baby and to collect any evidence to put that RO/press charges against delulu Karen, and yeah, give her some psychiatric help. That's NOT normal
@nicolethetford3095 Yeah, wet nurses used to exist (and probably still do in some places) but with the help of formula, people can feed their kids despite not having much of a supply without the risks. Also, even those require consent from the parents.
Also doing it for quite a while... in secret!? She's definitely delusional and likely planning a way to take that baby.
@@nicolethetford3095really?? I never knew this! I’ve heard of mothers letting other mothers nurse their baby for whatever reason, usually because they themselves aren’t producing enough, but never knew it could harm the baby.
Since she has convinced herself that she is the baby's mother, she is extremely dangerous. She will never give up. OP needs to take steps to make sure that her daughter is safe.
Yeah, these are major red flags, thinking it's OK to engage in extremely intimate contact w/ someone's child, regardless of motives, on its own is enough... but the fact that she is lactating, the delusion goes so deep her body has a physiological response... and why did the women she was talking to tell her it was OK to breast feed while they chatted? She obviously presented the baby as her own.. no normal person would suggest, or even be witness to that happening to somone else's baby....
so if she told this to random wedding guests then she has definitely told others that it's her baby.... not only is her direct behavior a potential threat, but if she fooled OP she could fool others... this needs to go on the record now! Before the crazy woman turns OP's life upside-down w/ calls to child services, family court filings, demands for DNA tests.... if she is convincing enough OP could be arrested for kidnapping & the child removed until maternity is established.... those things always seem impossible, but there are plenty of articles that prove family court is like in another dimension....
Add to that the threat of this woman just taking matters into her own hands... the most dangerous time in a abusive marriage is when it's first broken off, that's where this woman is, she is desperate to get back to that child.... the shitty thing about restraining orders is having to give ur address to the recipient (so they know where to stay away from) but this woman already knows it, so police report & restraining order 1st thing...
Followed by alerting friends, family & even neighbors to her potentially dangerous side... otherwise she will use them to weasel in or gather info.
...& make sure any daycare/ baby sitter has a copy of the restraining order.... id go tell each day care employee myself, since they might b used to her ,& memos slip through the cracks.....
I've been told a 3rd party kicking someone's ass gets the message across 😂
@@2guys1cliplol That would be assault, and last time I checked, assault is a crime.
@shittetharse never stop other from doing it. In some states it's legal because a child is endangered.
@@2guys1cliplol fair enough.
The miscarriage messed up the friend's head big time. Which does happen. She IS STILL dead wrong. All this means is she NEEDS professional help. Also, I agree with ending this friendship.
Oh boy. She flipped. There r women that this happens to that have later been arrested for kidnapping
I truly think she will attempt to kidnap the baby or at least has plans to do so. OP really needs to take extra precautions here. The fact that she can’t get a restraining order is weird…
I've seen SO MANY stories about women being infertile and/or having miscarriages and completely losing their sanity to this degree. This is almost the standard emotional response.
@@agentzapdos4960 It is 100% not standard. I lost two pregnancies around 14 weeks (which is a bit late for miscarriages). Never once lost my mind.
People who react like this usually have a much more serious underlying mental illness and likely should just never have kids at that point. OP's "friend" needs to be admitted, medicated, evaluated. This is a break in reality. This is psychosis. She DOE NOT need to be running around in public. She will and likely is going to harm someone
@@alexandriav3956 she might live in an area where concrete proof is needed. Like a recording. Some laws r weird like that
The friend sounds like she had a psychotic break. People can seem perfectly fine until you delve into their delusional thoughts. I hope she gets help.
Nothing scarier than an unhinged woman who wants a baby, but can’t have one.
Baby rabies are a thing, and this lady is terminal with it.
This!!!!! I've seen some scary shizzz ..
Nothing sadder than a woman who doesn't want a baby but has one
mmmm scarlet witch
@@peachdoesart7175 💯And it is sad for the child too. They get that feeling of being unwanted stamped on their soul.
The concept of people trying to steal babies is *disturbingly* common. There was a story that made the news a while ago about a pregnant 20 something year old who was murdered. She went to the older lady's home on the promise of baby clothes. The older lady murdered the mom-to-be, cut the baby out of her stomach, and called an ambulance, passing the baby off as hers. At the hospital, cops acted on a tip and performed a DNA test on the baby, and found that the older woman wasn't his real mom. They went to the house, found the real mom's body, and the psycho was arrested. The baby was placed in the custody of his dad and grandparents. It's actually terrifying how commonplace stuff like that seems to be.
A lot of women's brains completely break for the rest of their lives if they can't have babies, if they miscarry, or if their kid doesn't turn out like she thought the kid would (i.e. disabled, chronically ill, consistent misbehaviour).
This happened so recently in my area, but it was a 30 something year old woman, the exact same thing happened, she didn't survive, and the baby didn't either. Her name was Ashley Bush.
What the FUCK!? **CUT THE BABY OUT OF HER STOMACH?!** JESUS *CHRIST.*
Oh my god. I think this was my area too. I remember hearing about something similar. Let me check the victims name
Ok not Ashley bush but we had something very similar in my area
The former support worker in me is having a panic attack over that second story. If Lisa has the mental age of a ten-year-old, it's possible that she is not legally capable of giving consent. Add that to the fact that Lisa likes OP, while OP knows he's just humouring her for the wedding. So, the couple are essentially asking OP to manipulate and groom a mentally disabled person into believing he is romantically interested in her and are offended that he won't. What happens if Lisa tells the story of her "boyfriend" at care group? What if she adds flair to the story and suggests they kissed or were intimate at the wedding? A support worker or care worker is legally obligated to inform social services and the police. If you're lucky, it gets straightened out early. But if not, you've got a hundred witnesses at the wedding who can't account for OP and Lisa's whereabouts for the whole wedding - not even the wedding couple - but who WILL recall OP hanging around Lisa and "flirting" with her all night, and Lisa gushing about how much she likes him. No. No. Absolutely not. No. OP was right to get the hell out that situation. Jesus, I need to breath into a paper bag.
Oh GOD that makes it so much worse
Thank you I just came to point this out
Oh good god i didn't even THINK about this part of it. The bride and groom really are braindead AND delusional if they thought this wasnt going to blow up in everybody's face no matter what op did!
The case of the mother stuffed in the closet was the case of Savanna LaFontaine-Greywind. A truly tragic case. The worst part is that the mothers parents could hear the baby crying before they knew what had happened.
Oh dear god that is a whole other layer of creepy and fucked up
It is definitely normal for SOME women to feed other babies, but you need to have permission first. Absolutely bizarre.
Edit: I also feel the need to add that breast size does not determine milk production 🤦🏼♀️
if anything, its extra scary for OP. What if her friend smokes? What if her friend drinks? What if the baby is receiving medications through the milk or has an allergy that only OP knows as the real mother? This is so many layers of fucked up.
Exaclty I’ve heard of same sex women couples doing it so they can both help but permission!!!!
Yes, wet nurses were and are a thing.
And you're right: chest size is entirely irrelevant.
Yeah I was breastfeed by my aunt because my mom didn't have enough milk, but everything was above board and my aunt had enough for me and my cousin. That is wery different from this woman secretly forcing her body to lactate and essentially molesting an infant!
Is it really completely irrelevant? I mean, wouldn’t larger space for mammary glands equate to higher potential for milk production?
Dude, if u shut down your channel you have NO IDEA what an affect it would have on my work day😂 these stories keep me going through all the paperwork
I'm with ya man I get excited at work once it's like 7:45 am for me 🤣🤣
Crazy you only need to work for 20 minutes a day
@@afailableIt’s like coffee. You need it to get your jump start
I don't really see why he would?
There are other channels that do the same thing.
He isn't unique or special in this regard.
"She explained that my daughter was restless while she was talking to a couple of women, and they said that maybe she was hungry and it was fine for them to keep talking while she was breastfeeding..."
That means Karen either told the women OP's daughter was her own child or they assumed the girl was hers and she didn't correct them, because nobody in their right mind would tell someone to shove their boob in a kid's face that wasn't hers.
Don't kidnap babies, people. That's just not right.
That’s what I’m saying
@@astrology_2 frfr I could never
You’d think that is common sense enough that it wouldn’t *need* to be said, but here we freaking are! 🤪
And our speaking the obvious award goes to this guy
Um....can we not just kidnap people in general?
There was a recent case where a lady killed a pregnant lady, stole her baby out of her body, and then went to the hospital with the baby saying she’d just given birth. It’s surprisingly common. Which is terrifying.
It's because completely losing it is the standard emotional response to wanting kids but having a body that won't let you have your own biological kids. It's such a deep and total failure not only to achieve your goals, but to fulfill the sole purpose for which you are even alive (in her own mind, not in reality, but a mentally ill person's delusions are more real to them than reality).
Yeah, baby rabies going terminal like this is crazy.
@@agentzapdos4960Dude, what are you on about? I've seen you in multiple comments now repeating this broad generalization that every infertile/miscarrying Woman is a raging psycho. Where do you even get that from? Do you know how incredibly common miscarriages are? It's a rate of about 20%.
Like, how many women with fertility Problems do you know to base your Argument on?
i heard they found out it wasn’t her baby because they, of course, did a vaginal exam, and realized “huh…yeah..no…you definitely didn’t just have a baby. who’s baby is this, and where are they?”
i’m so baffled how a fetus that wasn’t trying to be born even survived that. like how just being ripped out prematurely by someone who was probably definitely not a surgeon didn’t kill the baby instantly
Story 1: keep your child away from that woman! This can turn into a true crime series fast.
Story 2: Wow. What a terrible couple. Let’s say it louder for those in the back: PEOPLE ARE NOT EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMALS! Why do “friends” treat people like this?
Also, WOW! Didn’t expect the racist part of it but dang! Glad OP left those “friends”.
Story one file changes
Also disabled people shouldn't be treated the way they want to treat Lisa, Lisa will realize that her boyfriend was there for the day and disappeared and when she realizes they're not together "anymore" it's going to hurt her. I don't understand why people think it's okay to play these fucked up mind games with disabled people. They/we (still figuring out if I count as disabled or not) are people. What Lisa won't understand is why her "boyfriend" left her or why he doesn't ever talk to her. It's just gonna break her heart and make her feel more unlovable
Except me. I’m Bubbie’s emotional support animal. 😂 Bubbie is my sweet senior Westie mix female.
@@The_momur That’s so cute and funny I love that
@@redtailarts101 Maybe they just wanted her to be happy for the day so she would smile genuinely in the pictures?
first story: the fact that the friend was claiming her breastmilk is somehow superior to OP's is so creepy. If OP would've let this stunt slide it potentially could have developed into a full blown "actually, not only is my breastmilk better, im also a better parent to the baby than you" argument, so yeah cutting that friend out of OP's life completely is probably the only reasonable option right now. PLUS the fact that she was indeed lactating enough to PUMP suggests that she has secretly been taking hormone-mimicing drugs, and that does not sound healthy to me. Also the size of your breasts does not matter when it comes to the healthiness (or quantity) of breastmilk wtf is this woman talking about????? she needs serious psychiatric help and a biology lesson
She didn't need to take hormones for that. It's possible she really convinced herself it's her baby and her body started to do it on it's own.
Which is also not good, because that means that in her head she is really the baby's mother. And she will do anything to be with "her" baby
That's what leads me to think that she was going to kidnap the baby at some point and try to raise her as her own. You know that if it were to continue that lady would be insisting upon parenting the child instead of letting the OP raise her.
First story; there is nothing inherently wrong with nursing a child that isn't yours. Like, Wet Nurses are a thing, it's literally a job.
That said, it is wrong to do it without consent/if you come from a culture where that isn't a normal expected part of communal child raising.
Everything else going on there is just a horror story waiting to happen.
Well, actually babies have really weak immune systems so you really shouldn’t nurse someone else’s child. I mean what if the friend got the baby sick?
@@WishGender That and you CAN poison your breastmilk. Sooo friend is all kinds of fucked up
First Story: Uhhhhhh...OP's friend is absolutely weird. Never have I heard about another woman shoving their own boob down someone's kid's throat to calm them down. Nothing about that is normal. So instead of correcting these women and say that the baby isn’t her's, she instead just take out her boob and "breastfeeds"? The fact she claim she didn’t do anything wrong is insanity. "What she has always done"?! This implies she did this before. OP needs to drop this friend and get a restraining order. Ok, I get having a miscarriage is traumatic but claiming another person's baby as urs (the "our" part) is just insane. This lady needs to seek a therapist. Yo this lady is actually insane; what's better for OP's daughter? OP is the mother, not this woman. She is so delusional that she is justifying this by saying OP's boobs are too small and her's are better for the baby. OP should’ve called the cops the second she showed up at her door. Changing those locks would’ve been the first thing I would’ve done but I get how OP feels staying in a hotel. I’m sure Amy can see how insane Karen is right (I’m sticking with the names Rslash made for the best friend and mutual friend)? She is still so delusional to think OP is going to allow her anywhere near her child. The constant referral of "our" to OP's child screams seek therapy
Comment: Yeah...that is definitely the worst case scenario that could happen to OP. Going off the grid might be the best option here
Second Comment: Uhhhhhhhh....
Second Story, NTA: Kyle and Clare are so concerned about Lisa's feelings but don’t care about how OP feels about this? I wouldn’t be comfortable playing pretend boyfriend with Clare's sister just to make her happy; besides, this will only do way more harm than good (as listed by OP). I figured that Lisa had a crush on OP but a mature adult will have to explain to her that she can’t have everything she wants (and when I say mature, I mean someone who has the mentality of their age considering Lisa's mental disability). Wooow that reason is soooooo bad bro lmaooo. They wanted OP to do the fake date because Lisa is into K-pop and OP is Japanese American?! Damn, that is an instant deal breaker
The fact that the lady started using a pump to get herself to lactate... It's just so creepy! 😬
@@THEDubbleHelixxlmaoooo facts bro. This lady is insane
Story one really is that "This mother is NOT real!"
You never heard about wet nurses...?
I'd be filing charges. That's sexual assault on my child and I would be horribly worried about what else she'd been doing when I wasn't around.
As a mother of an autistic son, high functioning, the pretend boyfriend is so odd. My son is very self aware. In some cases. I WOULD NEVER EVER ASK ANYONE to do that. It’s pitiful. Why? My son is living a full life and he’s happy! It seems like it’s more for the parents than the daughter.
Also why would you set this whole think up KNOWING Lisa had been violent over a guy in another situation? Absolutely no way this was gonna do anything but bring about a lot of drama and possible violence.
That's the thing, they didn't ask. They just set the situation up. If OP had never asked, he would've never known what he was walking into.
The difference between your son and her though is that she can't even date or marry anybody because it'll be messed up when you compare their mental ages. She's mentally 10 meaning she cannot consent nor make adult decisions so she's most likely going to live her entire life single and not married
you said yourself that your son is “high functioning”. The girl in the story is 20 and mentally 10.
It’s a pretty different situation.
I’m not defending the pretend boyfriend situation, but a woman who is mentally a child is very different from a low support needs autistic person.
@@WishGender saying that a 10 year old wouldn't understand that the guy she was partnered up to walk down the isle of her sister's wedding isn't her boyfriend is a real shitty thing to say about 10 year olds. a 10 year old isn't delusional and entitled like that naturally, thats a learned behavior deal. at 10 i couldn't full understand concepts of death and poverty, but i knew that death meant and that i couldn't just go to the store and get whatever i wanted. 10 year olds are aware, hell, 5 year olds are aware enough to know that OP isn't their boyfriend and they don't own him.
This first story is hella bonkers! I get miscarriages kinda mess with a woman’s mind and they look for ways to cope…but this is so crazy! This delusional friend (Karen) needs sooooooooo much psychiatric help…and to completely stay away from OP. I truly hope this whole thing truly doesn’t result in OP needing to completely move away just to protect herself and her baby
She also needs to be banned from within 100 feet of a school zone
Infertility and miscarriages should require being kept under observation for several months looking for this kind of behaviour.
the death of a child isn't something any parent should go through - its a different kind of grief and it fucks you up. some people can handle it and live a normal life, but others need a lot of help because they just can't handle it. even the loss of a child who is still in the womb is devastating
@@agentzapdos4960 honestly, mandatory counseling when you have a miscarriage would be a good idea, even for those mothers who can handle the loss without going insane
@@agentzapdos4960 not all infertile women are crazy. I’ve been dealing with infertility for a year and half, it sucks but sheesh I would never consider stealing someone else’s baby wtf
Story 2: Geez, so not only was OP being asked to lie just to keep a jealous girl, who had a crush on OP just for being an asian dude, happy, but Kyle was willing to basically deprive OP of bringing a Plus One while everyone else could bring one just to pull it off. Not only is this stupid, but the heartbreak would be even worse once the lie is exposed
Yeah, OP doesn't need that. He needs better friends
Since the 2nd story was a WIBTA, lets award some scores:
OP gets a clear 0/5 buttholes
I'm also giving Lisa 0/5 buttholes because while yes she did have a crush on OP, I don't think she was in on the con job based on OP's story. I hope she eventually finds the support she needs. It's clear that its not coming from her family.
Both Kyle and his fiance get 3.5/5 buttholes for being massive hypocrites and wannabe homewreckers for OP's relationship.
Yeah you can’t really rate the other groomsmen since OP gave us the impression that they were in the dark about the plan as well. I hope they all bow out of the wedding in protest
Thanks for not giving Lisa a butthole score. She _can't_ be in on this, since then she wouldn't be made happy by it. It's a trick being played on OP and on her. They think it will make her happy but it's only gonna make her happy during the wedding. Afterwards, when her boyfriend is no longer acting as a boyfriend, it's gonna break her heart and she isn't going to fully understand. Not just due to being disabled but because the whole family is pulling this to trick her into thinking she has a boyfriend for the day, so she's not going to realize it was a trick. If she does find out, it'll just hurt her more because she'll see that her family just played a really evil prank on her. Lisa's done nothing wrong, and the family is going to just hurt her in their attempt to make her "so happy"
Woof, that second story. Racisim and ableisim all in one package. It sounds like instead of actually dealing with Lisa's insecurities about her sister getting married directly, they just wanted to placate her by hooking her up with an Asian guy so she'd be distracted by her K-pop fantasies.
That’s exactly what they did, they infantilized their disabled family member and fetishized OPs race at the same time
And the bad thing is that they either didn't think or didn't even care what was going to happen after the wedding, like would Lisa think that he's her boyfriend and they're going to get married or something? Did they even care about what Lisa would think afterwards?
@@dx1450 no they didn’t care, all they cared about was placating her for one day like she was a puppy or an infant
@@annacharest1958 yeah. She may have the mentality of a 10 year old, but even 10 year old can understand that "hey, the guy you like is dating someone else" it's not like she's incapable of understanding that
Story one: There is a thing called pacifiers.That are design for this situation. But on a serious note, Op should not be alone with Karen, if Karen wants to talk it should be with a mutual friend, a lawyer or through email. But I really want Op to not talk to Karen at all.
The first story: she is going through a “lost baby syndrome” she had a miscarriage so the next baby in her life became that baby, “her” baby. Especially since she was helping take care of it.
In Middle Ages it used to be normal to get poor women to breastfeed rich women's kids, and I always thought it's super creepy, but I also knew sometimes there are problems with lactation and it's better than letting baby be hungry in absence of formula. I am completely not surprised by the fact Karen is lactating, men can lactate too, it's apparently an emotional response. None of this makes it okay though. And she absolutely knew she done the wrong thing, otherwise she would just casually ask: "You know I am breastfeeding your daughter, right? You're ok with it, yeah?". Additionally, I wonder if this wasn't the goal all along. She couldn't handle trying for another baby, but her friend just became pregnant... and just like that, she was there. Always. Reliable, helpful, caring. Friendship disappeared in her mind, motherhood appeared. Jesus. OP is a trooper for how she handled this. In her position I would have just gone hysterical for weeks.
Yes, slaves were often used as 'wet nurses' for plantation owners. How bizarre to think someone supposedly inferior to you is perfectly fine to keep your baby alive...
Wet nursing was a legit job, and almost the only option before the development of baby formula if the mother couldn't feed the baby alone. It would have been a big strain on the nurse's body; breastfeeding takes a lot of calories, so I have mad respect for women who could do that for a child who wasn't theirs and whom they probably wouldn't see again after weaning.
But the power structure when it was rich mother/poor nurse was _definitely_ messed up, especially in situations where the nurse might be a bereaved mother and need the pay to survive.
@@suitov Obviously these women kept children, sometimes and entire family of children alive. The unequal power dynamics are a whole other can of worms .
@@fdm2155 I was thinking mostly of here in Europe (where things were still messed up) but Southern America when the women were slaves is just awful to think about.
wasn't the reason for poor women breastfeeding the rich kids because the rich wife only had the baby to please the husband but never to actually care for them
Story 1: OP, your "friend" stepped way over the line here. I think the "friend" had a mental break down after her own miscarriage and is somehow using OP's baby as a surrogate baby for herself. Your "friend" needs to see a therapist stat because she is bat-shit-crazy at this point.
She doesn't need therapy, she needs a psychiatrist and a straight jacket.
She didn't just "step" over the line. She jumped over it with a fucking pole.
i was thinking empty nest syndrome if the friend has that it could be dangerous for OP, OP's baby and the friend herself
I also find it interesting that the friend refers to the baby as "our" baby and not "her" baby. As if even though OP is the mother, the friend is not jealous and more like those two have a relationship. I didn't read if OP was married or if the father is in the picture, but if he isn't it might feed all the more into her delusion.
@@BadassHater1dorn , build some fortification for the baby mama
In story one: The ex-best friend is likely experiencing some sort of psychotic break, and having an extreme mental illness moment where reality has become splayed. This being said, OP needs to be careful if this indeed has something to do with extreme psychosis. When people have a mental illness that is that severe it can give them almost inhuman strength at times---it sounds weird I know but I've heard a lot of stories. My dad is an RN and he told me that there was a 90lbs grandma he was helping to take care of in early years as a nurse and she had mental health issues. This little grandma had to be pinned down by 6 fully grown nurses because she was able to avoid being pinned down and had the strength to get up despite her age.
Look at people who manage to lift cars off someone. Doesn't adrenaline have something to do with it?
@@marjoriejohnston4905yep, it's the adrenalines talking and totally agree with you. She is super dangerous and this situation shouldn't be taken lightly.
That's just adrenaline. Anyone who is extremely distressed and panicking can do stuff like that. Only reason we associate it with crazy people is that crazy people often think they're in mortal danger when they're not, and react accordingly.
On the first story, i was initially puzzled, as Wet Nurses are still a thing, as well as milk-siblings. However, as the story went on, it became increasingly clear how absolutely delusional that woman was. She needs a padded room, because down her mental road lies only murder and kidnapping.
1) are they still a thing?
2) what are milk siblings?
@@desireeloveros1055 Milk Siblings are people who have a sort of familial bond through having breastfed from the same woman even if not actually blood related.
@@desireeloveros1055 I would assume wet nurses are still a thing in developing countries where there's far less access to things like formula.
Mhm. I also don’t understand why at the very beginning it was talked about like they were violating the baby, or like she was a creep for doing it
@@GahmConrad Eh, she was forcing the kid to breastfeed on her without any consent or the consent of the parents, so it is a violation of most people's boundaries.
“I couldn’t cut her off from our daughter’s life” … Ohhhh sh*t. Sounds like OP’s “friend” (If she could still call her that) suffered from some mental break after her loss. This is terrifying. Karen is sick and I’m worried she’ll escalate and steal OP’s kid by force. She might have to move.
I’m pissed that authorities aren’t taking situations like this seriously enough. With any luck, Karen’s ex might still have contact with her parents and they can bring her home- and hopefully give Karen the help she desperately needs. I’d still look into moving if possible and staying the hell off social media. (Hell, I’d probably dye my hair and change my name.)
This is one of the standard emotional responses to miscarriage/infertility. A woman who wants kids whose body won't let her have kids can be one of the most dangerous people around.
Bruh you need to stop.
THIS IS NOT STANDARD FOR WOMEN SUFFERING INFERTILITY OR PREGNANCY LOSS.
I have had two miscarriages. I have a lot of friends who suffered as well. None of us have ever done this. Karen is seriously just really fucked up. People who do this are fucked up and probably always have been.
You seriously need to stopping spreading this misinformation that we all lose our minds after a tragedy. We don't. Karen is just fucking insane.
Man I’ve heard stories like this before. A woman really wants kids of her own but can’t have them for whatever reason and they see the closest kid to them and try to latch onto them, but when the actual parents shut it down they start to go crazy. Lady needs serious help
The first story and the updates and similar stories reminded me of something happened to me 13 years ago. I was pregnant with my only child. My now ex husband and his friends wanted me to give them my son. I read stories about crazy women who wants babies. Since my ex husband's friends were a lesbian couple, they see me as surrogate and my son was THEIR baby.
I hope you quickly nipped that in the bud
@@lorilancaster5917 luckily, I got away. However the drama was never really over. After my son was taken from us, he eventually went to the "friends." By 2014, he was taken away from them due to bruises on his legs and back. I had to variety one of his "bruises" was a birth mark that is common in mixed race children.
The breastfeeding story is one of the craziest ones you've ever read. At first I thought she just made a mistake by not asking if it's okay to fake breastfeed the child to calm her down but then... she is completely insane. OP and Amy seem kind by trying to get the Karen help besides protecting themselves
Well tbh, I don't think Karen is a threat to Amy. Amy is not even involved in the delusion at all. OP should be careful bc of her involvement, but Amy is really a perfect candidate to seek help, as someone who knows what's up and isn't like really a part of the delusion
There’s delusional, and then there’s the woman in the first story. I hope OP is able to keep safe, this whole thing is mad. I’d be genuinely worried about my safety and my babies safety if that were me.
First story, get that lady on the sex offender list. That is weird. Also kidnapping. She should not be allowed within 100 feet of a school zone.
I have two theories about why Karen in the first story is so insistent on the whole "OP's child is my child" thing:
Theory One: In the beginning of the story OP mentions that Karen has been a friend for a while and thus knew OP's kid for a while. It's possible that Karen has naturally developed some kind of obsession that obviously she needs therapy for, here's a good quote for how obsession usually starts, "Experts think there may be chemical differences within some peoples' brains that might make you more likely to have obsessions. Environmental factors may also play a role in causing obsessions, especially if you're experiencing high levels of stress."
Theory Two: It's possible that Karen may be a closeted lesbian and maybe has a secretive crush on OP, the whole ideology of "She's our kid" may be some sort of weird hint that Karen wants to be romantically associated with OP and thus be the mother of her child.
Edit: Went back through the story again, figured out Karen had a miscarriage. She definitely developed an obsession due to the loss of her own child.
Hey, it could be both, but you got to feel pity for her. Miscarriages are something you can't take lightly it can lead to divorce or worse, the same kind of mental illness Karen is going through when she is near an infant that she is close friends with the mother/ father. I hope she gets the help she needs.
FYI breastfeeding works on a supply and demand system: when baby feeds, the breast fills up again. So, nursing from small breasts is like drinking an unlimited amount from a small cup: there's no benefit to having larger breasts. A large breast can have less milk, just like how a pint glass can be almost empty. The idea that large breasts make better milk is just another one of that woman's delusions.
It's not a small cup. The milk cup isn't any bigger if you have big boobs. It's like if you have two cups with the exact same volume, but one's a thin material and the other is a thermos. The actual storage capacity in the milk ducts is unrelated to how much fat deposit you have around them.
Reminds me of another reddit story, I can't remember if it was this channel or a different one.
Where the OP is a busy single mother, so hires a babysitter to look after her baby and eventually notices that her baby is refusing to breastfeed from her when she's home, the babysitter claims that the baby prefers to bottle feed but OP notices that the formula supplies haven't been touched. OP then installs a hidden camera and finds that not only was the babysitter breastfeeding her baby, but was getting the baby to refer to her as "mama", and when confronted the babysitter argued that she would be a better mother for the baby since OP is at work all the time.
So scientifically and biologically speaking, OP's friend has essentially pavloved herself into being able to breast feed for OP's baby. Because she kick started the breastfeeding, her body started producing those maternal hormones including bonding with the baby. She just psychologically Effed herself. I don't really know how to explain this but the closest thing I can compare it to is a false pregnancy. It's entirely possible to trick your body into thinking its pregnant by wanting to be pregnant to an extreme degree. Basically she willed it into existence and now she's lost touch with reality.
Story 1: My God, maybe you should go somewhere else for a while, this lady is insane and will justify anything to get her hands on your child no matter what anyone says.
Yeah, if OP has the option to move away, at least for a while, I'd definitely advise that.
FIRST STORY!! This is so important to know because it is SUCH a myth! Breast size does not equal breast milk supply! I'm on the smaller side, and I made plenty, trust me! Lol
I mean, OP's "best friend" is clearly in need of some serious help. Everything she said was completely wrong.
Cheese slipped right off her cracker.
Especially considering how she isn’t producing much herself. How in her mind can her milk be better? Scratch that she’s insane
First story: I actually went to a lecture on what we refer to as maternal desire abductions. Some recommendations from there included: don’t post your baby on social media/tell family not to, don’t leave your baby unattended while outside and get one of those baby monitor cameras as most of these abductions take place in or around the home.
Having experienced someone who had a phychotic break, the first story is setting off all kinds of alarms. Hopefully the ex-husband was able to get the friend's parents involved and she got the help she needs before things escalated any more.
I actually knew the lady in Texas who lost her life to her best friend. The story is way more complicated than the news made it out. And more complicated than the family wanted the world to know. But the gist of the story is to double-check pregnancies and don't believe people until you have proof. And don't sleep around with random people because they feel entitled to your children
This episode was NUTS. I'm going to go take a nap next to my _normal_ husband in our _normal_ bed with no crazy drama happening whatsoever. 😵💫
Wow the first story honestly had me in tears, always cherish your children and don’t be afraid to kick out toxic people. I’ve been going through infertility for about a year and half, it does mess with your mental health but never in my right mind would I ever consider trying to take someone else’s baby
The friend is absolutely disgusting, yo that’s someone else’s kid, she’s literally saying that it’s ok for her to breastfeed but not ok Op does it.
Friend is in need of an immediate psych evaluation...
As someone who worked with adults with severe mental disabilities and had a cousin with Trisomy 21, it is beyond bizarre what this family was doing. Not ok and definitely not what the girl needs. Also, shows her family doesn’t know or probably really even like her. They didn’t want to make her feel better they wanted to shut her up at the wedding.
Finally someone else said it!! Lisa needs a lot more help for processing her emotions, but that's not what they wanted. They don't even care that it will hurt her afterwards when her new boyfriend OP doesn't ever interact with her romantically, just as long as the wedding went smoothly who cares about OP and Lisa's feelings, right?
God, i feel for everyone in the baby story. A new mother losing her best friend and helper, a woman suffering from obvious psuchosis after a miscarriage, that poor baby. No matter what you think of her, that woman is deeply ill and needs help. OP just cant be the one to do it.
Psychosis*
Story 1: I'm getting an insane amount of heebie jeebies from this story listening to it while pregnant. I don't want anyone to meet my baby ever.
Edit: now that I've heard the other stories, I also don't to meet anyone ever 😂
People have breastfed others babies, however it was done with permission. I think the best friend was affected by her miscarriage more than anyone realized. She needs help.
Here in North Dakota, there was a case of a Native woman who was 8 months pregnant 🤰 and a neighbor asked her to help her with a dress she was doing the P.W. went to help her and she disappeared police looked for her for a few days even went to this lady's apartment and didn't find her a few days later the body was found the cut her baby out while she was still alive but under some kind of medicine or something they arrested the lady and her boyfriend and baby was found safe and returned to the dad the baby is so beautiful I got to hold her since at the time this happened I was working as a front desk at a hotel the pregnant woman's boyfriend was staying at it was really sad to hear how this poor lady died
I was all ready to give Karen plenty of benefit of the doubt. _Maybe_ she's loving but clueless and thought this was fine. I'm all about non-traditional family structures and if this had been done openly and with everyone's full consent, especially if OP actually _did_ have a supply problem instead of Karen dreaming that part up, it might have been a lovely, mutually supportive situation. I think in Karen's mind it was. But not in the reality the rest of us inhabit. Sorry, Karen. I don't think her having own child would even be safe at this point; there's too much risk to all involved if her delusions are as serious as they sound.
So yeah. At first it sounded like OP reacted strangely strongly to a single incident, but I think OP was getting Not Okay vibes from the get-go and OH BOY was she proven right!
Even if this incident had happened once it is not ok. It’s weird. I’d have done the same as OP.
If it was my best friend of a decade they'd get one mulligan. _One._ As soon as the "our baby" talk started, outie.
I remember stumbling upon that first story on reddit and I was beyond disgusted and horrified for op. The friend definitely sounds derranged and she will try to get "their" baby. She needs some serious professional help and a restraining order.
For the first story, I think the ex-friend might be having some kind of post-partum mental break. Psychologically, she wasn't prepared to *not* carry a baby, so she's projecting onto the closest baby in her life. I don't think she needs jail time, she needs serious psychiatric intervention.
The second story reminds me of a story similar to what rslash did before.
In that story, the bride has a disabled sister. Her sister pretty much had a crush on the bride's fiance. The fiance obviously made it clear that her sister's displays of love and affection made him really uncomfortable.
Apparently the bride's parents wanted her sister to be the one to walk down the aisle with the fiance. The bride is of course tired of catering to her sister's wants and for one day wants her fiance to be ONLY hers. Her parents threw a fit and refused to go to the wedding if her sister isn't allowed to go.
According to that OP, she's always had to share everything with her sister. And while im sympathetic to the disabled sister, their parents wanted the bride's fiance to also show affection to the sister ON THEIR WEDDING DAY. When they asked OP what she plans to do with her sister when they die, she said she's gonna put her in a home where she can be taken care of because she wants a chance to live with her life with her future husband and she wouldn't be able to focus on her sister 24/7.
At that point her parents said if her sister can't go, then they wont.
It felt like a favorites situation.
Where can I find this story again?
Yeah I’ve heard too many stories about women kidnapping babies from hospitals or luring pregnant women to their house for baby supplies where they cut open the mom and steal their baby. One woman miraculously survived and called the police while completely open. She will never be able to have a baby of her own, and honestly after that kind of trauma I can’t imagine the pain of seeing other babies
Not a mental health expert, but I'm pretty sure the friend fits the definition of "delusional"
I just wanna say the dedication you have to upload these every day is amazing, and i can't thank you enough for it as there always very entertaining :3
Story 1: Friend seriously needs help. How far will her grief go unchecked that she does what rslash suggests (murder OP to be the baby's mom), and then it extends to friend abusing the child in 5+ years because said kid doesn't fit her mental fantasy of what her miscarried child would've grown into?
Story 2: NTA. Lisa may be mentally disabled, but that's no excuse to coddle her into thinking everyone must cater to whatever she wants. And even worse are the friends who treated OP like he was an object on (insert any online shopping website)
Man, best of redditor updates is becoming one of my fast favorites to hear R/Slash talk about. Always good stories that are long, interesting, winding, and godly satisfying at the end and just leave each video with a satisfying feeling. Why I listen to R/Slash last as my daily dose of youtube.
Story 1: This is a sign that OP needs to and block and go NC with this "friend" immediately, she literally, in OP's words, shoved her boob down the baby's throat and sees nothing wrong with that? Bro, this friend is delusional as hell. Bro, "what she has always done" implies that this isn't the first time she did this, jesus christ. And, just because you have a miscarriage doesn't excuse you from trying to take someone's baby as yours. The "friend" needs professional help, like pronto.
So, for the second story OP posted an update on the wedding. Another one of the groomsmen, Tucker, Dropped out of the Ceremony. It looks like Lisa hid her sister's dress and then spilled drinks all over her own dress. The Ceremony was delayed, when it did start, Lisa glared at her sister the whole time. Then during the reception, Lisa had a meltdown, went on a rampage, destroyed a bunch of food and part of the cake. Yeah, OP dodged a bullet.
Lisa should not have been at the ceremony
Lisa has jealousy problems, and her feelings are very intense. She cannot handle a wedding that isn't her own. I feel bad for Lisa, I really do. I think her emotional needs include "give her the option to skip an event that will make her upset by rubbing her singleness in her face."
@@redtailarts101 I agree 100% It feels like the family doesn't want to address the overall problem.
The first comment after the story is 100% real and I was also going to bring it up because there are "baby crazy" ladies out there who will literally KILL to have a baby and have! She sound like she is one altercation away from hurting the mom and taking "her baby" away... She had a miscarriage in the past and her husband is and ex now... There is a LOT here that it seems OP isn't privileged to know but it truly sounds like the start of a true crime story already and OP needs to get out NOW before something happens to her or her baby...
As someone with a similar Autistic symptom as Lisa, OP is 100% not a butthole. Let me be clear. This form of Autism delays your mental development, including maturity. If Lisa is mentally 10 years old, then she's too young to be dating. The family needs to sit Lisa down and explain to her why crushing on OP purely because of his ethnicity and her love of K-Pop is inappropriate. It's a form of racism, which is not okay. She's still a little young to be taught about consent, but they still need to teach her that if the other person doesn't return your feelings, you need to accept that and let them be. The parents are 120% NOT allowed to use Lisa's disorder as an excuse for their bad parenting. I can't be too harsh on Lisa, since that would be like being mad at a young child, but just because she's still mentally a child, it doesn't excuse the parents allowing her to be so selfish and racist. I give Lisa's family 4/5 buttholes for using their daughter's disability as an excuse for their bad parenting and racism.
Story 1: it seems like the friend is having a psychotic break/ is stuck in a delusion because of her inability to have a bay and has latched on to OP's baby. OP needs to stay away from her, and the friend needs mental help
Story 2: I'm glad OP dropped the friendship. Kyle was probably thinking it'd be alright to do, but he's making things worse for Lisa
First story: Woman is messed up…probably realizes she’ll never have a child of her own and it latching on to someone else’s kid.
Wtf is going through the friends head? "Our Daughter"? This isn't the Soviet Union
made my day
Theory on the first story: After the best friend's miscarriage happened, my guess is she never went to therapy for the situation and when she started looking after OP's baby, she just had a mental breakdown and started believing she was the mother too. She needs mental help, she needs to get checked in to a mental hospital and get treatment.
That woman is honestly terrifying. OP should move, block her, just go off the grid.
Her friend is unhinged and needs help.
I actually feel really bad for “Karen” in the first story. She’s obviously going through some sort of mental breakdown, especially since OP said she suffered multiple miscarriages and then stopped trying.
That being said, what she’s doing isn’t ok and OP needs to take steps to make sure her and her baby are safe.
OP should have ditched the friend after she "stopped trying". I guarantee that's when she fixated on OP's kid. You should never trust a woman who wants kids but can't have them. This kind of insanity is almost the standard emotional reaction to unwanted infertility.
I love Bestof! It’s a great way to start the day. :)
Bestof is my favorite sub that he covers
I’m still waiting for an update on that engagement story!! The one where the friends helped OP with everything then the gf completely ghosted him and the friends turned on him! Like wtf happened!???
The 1st story definitely gives kidnap/unalive the mom vibes. I have read so many true stories of women who were killed for their babies by women they trusted. OP needs to run as far as she can from this psycho.
I became emotionally invested in this story. I pray OP and her daughter are ok and someone got that woman some mental help
The friend is acting like she & OP were lesbians who always intended to raise the baby together. Her delusions are so bizarre... I can't wrap my head around it.
The (ex-)friend in the first story has gone completely psycho and needs professional help. I would honestly recommend OP do everything she can to protect herself. Beef up on security cameras, more locks, etc. Honestly, at that point I would get a gun.
2nd story: Honestly,OP manage the situation pretty well. He would been seen as the bad guy no matter what,so might as well not give hope to Lisa in the 1st place
"yo what am I reading?"
That was almost the same exact words that came out of my mouth when I first read this story
Damn I’d probably drop her as a friend for nursing a kid that isn’t hers then saying that it could be her baby, she sounds idiotic and probably only started nursing for the attention but idk for sure
I really don't think it was "for attention" bc she really didn't let OP know and seemed to be doing it whenever the baby fussed. I genuinely think this woman is having a psychiatric episode and needs medical care (altho it is not on OP to put that together for her)
I hate Reddit’s need to jump to extremes, but even as a non redditor the creepy lady here feels like a secret axe murderer.
That first story, this is actually really common in my husband's country. Auntie's will switch babies off and even friends will feed each other's kids. But it's always with permission, everybody knows it's happening nobody sneaks behind anyone's back. I found the sneaking really creepy and it makes me think the friend is just pretending not to know how weird it is otherwise she would have been open about it. I would be afraid of her trying to steal OP's baby. Like legit get a restraining order.
Story #1: also reminds me of a murder case where the pregnant Mom was a dog breeder and she was going to show the puppies she had to another pregnant Lady who (shocker) was not pregnant and there to knock her out, slice open her stomach and steal her baby. Which she did and left the Mom to die by bleeding out. (I think she was found by her own mother who was looking for her). The deranged lady did it to keep her boyfriend and faked a pregnancy and needed a baby. She was caught because she contacted the Pregnant lady online in a public forum about the dogs.
rSlash, would you ever consider premiering a video? I think being able to discuss the stories in real time with other followers would be neat!
The murdered mom in the second story was actually in the bathroom WITH the husband trying to pretend he was in the shower - and the police didn’t bother checking AT ALL. He’d told his wife to “produce a baby or we’re done” after finding out she faked her own pregnancy to keep him. They both have 5-7 kids separately who they’re all noncustodial to - wonder why!!
I think that story was on Deadly Women
There was a case like story 1 where I live as well, it was equally messed up, just the other way around. Two sisters got married to their high school bfs, both had trouble conceiving. After numerous attempts the husband of the first sister divorced her as he wanted a kid very badly.
The other sister, finally managed to conceive, and her husband was also the sweetest guy and made sure his wife was always cared for. So the first sister took up the responsibility of helping the second and after the baby was born, she was trying to mother him all the time. Getting in their playtimes, dictating how nurseries were supposed to be coloured. The 2nd sister got fed up after the 1st one posted about how 'her baby' had started walking finally. She blocked her and threw her out. After waterworks, threats and whatnot the husband and the 2nd sister were scared, but the husband was becoming calmer and more calculating by the day. Security cams, talking to guards, setting traps. The 1st sister figured out and assaulted the 2nd sister after hiding near her house when she left to go on a walk with the baby. The husband saw this from within the house, grabbed his SIL by the hair and dragged her into the house to protect his kid. He whipped her to death, came out and hugged his family.
Story 1: NTA. Here’s the thing. Wet nursing is a thing. And before formula or places that don’t have much formula (and obviously before refrigeration for stored milk) it was a known practice. HOWEVER, you do NOT do that without permission. If there are people in cultures or groups where that’s normal… and they all agreed to it, or if you have designated people that’s one thing. Even if some people think it’s weird. But to do it without permission? No. And with all the breast shaming the friend did at the end? No. ETA: Wow. It just got worse. That friend is having a mental break after her own miscarriage. Stay away!
Ex-husband, huh? That oughtta tell ya everything. In the best case scenario with his help, the op could land her former friend into some psych ward.
Story 1 nta nursing other peoples children is illegal in a lot of areas of the world.
Wet nursing is a real and historical thing
Probably a stupid question but what about with the parents consent? (Feels like it is still illegal LOL I do know that ladies that over produce milk sometimes donate but THAT'S DONATING not stuffing yer boob in a mouth lmao)
@@The_M4zeyou used the word that the “friend” doesn’t understand- consent.
And yes, as long as you have a parent’s permission, it’s legal. At least, I’ve never heard of anyone being arrested or charged.
@@The_M4ze OP's friend was/is a total off the rails lunatic. But had that not been the case the rest of the story would have been the opposite.
@@SuperS05 OP's not the lunatic; her former friend is the crazy one for breastfeeding OP's baby without OP's consent.
That woman needs serious help. She is having a mental break coupled with delusions. This can become serious and potentially dangerous if she doesn’t get the help she needs. This situation is particularly concerning as the friend recently suffered a miscarriage. This loss has contributed to her break and caused her to transfer all her emotions to the child.
First story: Karen (as she was dubbed) needs professional help, she has clearly latched onto OPs daughter as a surrogate/replacement for the baby she lost. If she continues seeing the baby as being hers its not hard to imagine that she'll see taking 'her' baby as being justifiable.
It was mentioned that the crazy friend had a miscarriage. Maybe it was a delayed reaction of grief and desire while being around a kid so much. She did babysat a lot by the sound of it. Miscarriage can mess people up. . . She should go to therapy if she would be able to accept that she actually has a big problem. I hope op stays safe cause the respons story's are scary
Story one is definitely a psychotic break in response to the miscarriage
It's not something anyone needs to go through, but it's no excuse
Story 1: yeah, if the friend wanted to do that, the 2 should have had a LONG discussion about that. You don’t go behind your friend’s back, especially not forcing yourself to lactate in order to feed a child that’s not yours
Story 1: Is the friend 100% okay? Did something happen to her to make her try to replace OP as the kid's mom?
Whatever it is, she needs to go to therapy and OP needs to vanish.
The fact that "Karen" had already had a miscarriage and a divorce (which may have something to do with the former) probably tipped her over the edge. She needs professional help.
I am honestly worried about the friend and pissed off with her at once.
OP was much nicer than me. I don’t think I could’ve kept an ounce of composure.
Last story: by the sounds of it OP would have been the bad guy at some point. He plays a long out of pity and then what, he had to go on fake dates with this girl? And who's going to explain to his actual girlfriend that he's a substitute boyfriend? Sandy good riddance these people wanted to use you to avoid a temper tantrum.
As someone who listens to K-pop and who also happens to have a Japanese boyfriend I’m disgusted by the actions of that bride and groom.
This is probably a case of Karen having the miscarriage or not being able to give birth in the future, so because she was OP’s best friend and eventually developed a bond with OP’s daughter, she really did start to think of the baby as also being hers… this definitely is a case where it could be depression and even psychosis to where the friend (in her mind) may be coming from a place of kindness in her head, but could lead to something like “I had to kill her because that’s what was the best for my baby. She was denying my life giving milk.”
If she had come to OP suggesting she help feed that would be one thing (a pretty weird thing).
Her just doing it behind OP’s back though, and then after OP threatening to call the police and going no contact, but her STILL using the pump with OP’s baby in mind tells me that it was some sort of delusional psychosis and could be very dangerous.
I’ve had psychosis in a hospital after a brain aneurysm and 2 week induced coma. I was sure the ICU was having midnight dinners and all of the doctors would come out in costumes and serve the guests. It was like I dreamed it but it was real. Thankfully it was such a dumb thing, but I remember asking the nurse how much tickets were, and bed bound, I kept bugging her about it until she just smiled and said “they are 30$.” (probably to shut me up) Then I was SURE of it fr the next few days…
eventually I came to my senses, but it makes me embarrassed thinking about it.
Point is, psychosis can lead to very serious delusions and even hallucinations, so OP definitely needs to have protective orders in place and even move and change numbers.
Okay so the breastfeeding story, that gives me the hand that rocks the cradle vibes
Hell yeah. Right down to the best friend being single. Only thing missing was an additional kid, and black handyman that eventually saves the day.
1st story, Karen needs therapy and meds, sounds like she is depressed and have delusions. She needs help before it gets dangerous.
2nd story was a rolercoster but instead of ups and downs it was constant ride down. Like man it was bad it went worse, then worse and then it hit the racist card. They lied to op, set him up as a gigolo, they wanted to trick mentaly challanged woman because she could ruin their weding by being upset, they showed disregard to op's girlfriend and on top of that they were doing it because of op's skin colour and that is still not the end because they have the audacity to complain and blame op. That is sick. Karen has a excuse because of mental issues they are just evil
The last story: My brother is severely autistic/profoundly handicapped. I grew up taking care of him and after I got my degree in psychology I worked in a couple of schools and day programs for DD childern and adults.
I actually much prefered working with the kids and lower functioning adults. Why- the DRAMA. The higher functioning adults constantly had boyfriend/girlfriend drama. I've seen everything from clients trying to sneak out to meet random dates in a public parks, attempted hook-ups in bathrooms and huge dramatic fights/breakups that got physical. I almost got knocked out when I got punched in the head by a HUGE guy trying to get between him and his exgirlfriend during a fight- keep in mind I'm 5'1" 115lbs girl with glasses and this guy was at least 6'2" over 250lbs. After a while I just couldn't handle the physical fights/drama anymore.
Not saying that all or even most people w disabilities are like that. My brother has no interest in dating beyong liking to look at big/curvy girls in swimsuits lol. Actually people used to ask me 'Don't you want your brother to find a girlfriend/boyfriend?'- NO!!!!!! Are they NUTS!!!! Just NO lol.
Anyway what they are doing to Lisa is AWFUL and they are just asking for some kind of a meltdown at the wedding. Lisa won't understand when her 'date' doesn't want to dance with her, kiss her, actually MARRY HER and ride off into the sunset. By setting Lisa up with her fantasy K-Pop looking guy she will 100% think that SHE is also getting married.
What happens when they DON'T get married? Or when Lisa realizes that OP actually has a girlfriend???? At best she'll throw a tantrum and disrupt the wedding. At worst she'll get violent and attack OP, his girlfriend or even some random person. Even if they got thru the wedding without drama it would 100% happen sooner or later.
What they should've done is offer Lisa her own party- but AFTER the wedding. Don't even offer her a date at sisters wedding that's a bad idea. Instead tell Lisa that HER party will be AFTER the wedding- but only if she can behave herself at the wedding.
Then arrange a party for her. In my experience DD adults LOVE parties. We did a prom every year. You can do it in a backyard or a bowling alley- you don't need a pricey venue. Just get a karaoke machine, music, pizza, maybe some video games, snacks, pop and some cake. Some simple decorations and let Lisa pick out a dress from the prom section. Then invite all her day program buddies over from just a couple hours (longer than 2 or 3 hours is a bad idea).
Lisa would love it. Then she gets her own special day and she has a reason to behave nicely at the wedding. She can even brag about how HER party will be soooo much better. She'll love it!!!
But what they were planning was not only racist AF- But legit INSANE. I have no idea what they were thinking. OP was right that was a ticking time bomb of a situation and BREATH-TAKINGLY unfair to EVERYONE involved- especially Lisa. W....T....F???
The ONLY TIME I’ve ever seen someone breastfeed another baby was that time a cop rescued a tiny child who was hungry and dehydrated, and there was no formula or momma around, and she was breastfeeding her own babe at the time, so she just fed the baby! It was an emergency situation, and she acted fast!