Gamers Nexus told me I needed this... so here it is!
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- čas přidán 6. 04. 2024
- Gamers Nexus said I needed to check out the EKWB Loophole! But how should I use this $490 distro plate and pump res combo?!
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Hyyyyype!!! This is everything I wanted hahaha. You have more patience than I do for these kinds of projects. Looking forward to seeing this in a case!
Thanks Steve.
You can literally see it!
Definitely
Poppa is here
He's gotta show us young'ins how to do it!
Before watching the video, I had no idea what practical use there could possibly be for this thing. After watching the video, I'm pretty sure there's none.
I totally agree. Completely unnecessary expense.
@@johndegnan5703 like %99 of modern PC builds
I mean you could….. yep no idea
Slap some RGB on anything and it would sell
some coloured sleeves with that +50$
They say 32 options, and what I hear is "32 possible points of failure."
But at least you know where those are 😅
You the kinda dude that looks a 10 million dollar house and goes who's gonna clean that
Thirty three - the entire device as well
So, what you do is put this inside of an even bigger reservoir.
@@jimmycakes12 As a German, that would be me.
If you build a loop inside of the res, then run sub ambient coolant through it, you could use it as a heat exchanger!
this needs explored lol
Yes, you could but you also need something to remove that heat and since it's going inside a PC... the only place that heat is going is the surrounding so you'd end up higher ambient temps lol. Unless you have ducting through a wall or something lol...
@@earthtaurus5515 I hear pools are good for that.........
So is that sub ambient coolant in the room with us right now?
Doubt it would be effective unless you were using crazy cold coolant. With pipes that large and runs that short the amount of surface area available to carry out the exchange is minimal.
It would look cool in a duel loop system, have different coloured fluids, and have them crossing into each others distro thing. Dont know how well they'd show up through the tubes and liquid, but might be a neat idea
If he did one clear and one a dark color would probably sort of work.
Duel loop system! 🔫🔫🔫
who are they fighting?
This was my first thought, too. Depending on colors and their opacity there could be some really interesting combinations. Experimenting with different combinations would be a lot of fun. Like, would running a tube of blue through a block of yellow make the tube look green? Or what happens when you run a tube of Mystic Fog through a reservoir of (see through) color? And those are just a couple initial ideas.
some kind of red vs blue where they both cross over between the manifolds multiple times would be cool.
seeing the gamers nexus video on ek today made me think about the opening quote of "nevermind the condition ek sent them to me in." i dont think these are guna leave their inventory anytime soon...
so what's the difference between torque and horse power?🤔
0:21 oddly prophetic, given the recent news
the box is a little damaged it's still good it's still good
Make all the inner tube run as the component loop. Then cool the outer liquid with its own loop. That's why Steve said, water cool the water cooler.
I’m a pipe fitter and push lock fittings work fine I use them all the time. Just make sure you don’t have a super sharp edge so it doesn’t cut the o-ring.
Yup, especially when, as Jay said - the pump is low pressure high flow. If anything were to take out one of those fittings it would be a pressure build up which is mega unlikely.
they are not push lock i believe, just two orings queezing the tube with no physical lock. But yea, the D5 and DDC have nowhere enough pressure to make one of those come out.
Idea: if you're using two of these, use one on the gpu loop and one on the cpu loop. use copper tubing inside the reservoir as a heat exchanger between the two loops. Connect one of the outputs from one into the array of copper tubes in the other. That way, if one loop gets too hot and has to spool up, the other takes on some of the heat. You'd have to use the topmost center input ports, so it would probably be best to use glass tubing to minimize air ingress as water would slowly leave through plastic tubes (to prevent air getting mixed down into the loops), but it would look sick as hell.
Is it ludicrous overkill? Sure. That's part of the fun though.
EDIT: this might actually make the individual loops easier to do depending on the cases fan mounts. The cpu loop could be on the back, with the radiator IO towards the back, and the GPU could be on the front, completely avoiding the area where the CPU loop parts would go. Then you could have that go-between fit right in the middle between the two.
uhh nice idea, I second this.
could even solder on some fins to the copper tubing to increase heat transfer.
These ideas are worth testing.
Would be good to do the stand clear tube test. Get baselines. Then do the copper tubing and/or copper tubing with fins.
@@Rangerthelonewolf Linus already did something like this but on a MUCH bigger scale. They did a wholeass heat exchanger block in a custom desk PC for some minecraft youtuber/streamer person with a huge manifold of copper tubes between the loops. It's the "$100k gaming pc" or something like that if you wanna look it up.
Just stop... run a full loop then
Falcon northwest still making fragboxes makes me so happy. Back in the mid 2000s as a diehard maximumpc reader it was my dream to own one, always seeing their ads. And now I still can!
Funny watching this after the release of Steve's EK takedown 😬
Take off the fittings that are blocked due to internal tubing and put rgb lights in them.
You can sync them to indicate the hot/cold water and/or cpu/gpu. As well as pulsating the flow orientation.
Phanteks NV9 White, if you want a white and black water build.
Im using the nv9 case myself.
@Jayztwocents engineering nerd tip. That distribution plate sort of works like a tube and shell heat exchanger. The benefit of using this is that you cool the water mid loop before it reaches the next component. Tube and shell heat exchangers operate at maximum efficiency when the cooling water, and the water being cooled flow in opposite directions. So any loop segments routed internally should flow in closer to the pump suction, and flow out further away from the pump suction to get the maximum cooling effect. It would be great to see you discuss this in a future video, and implement this concept into your build to the maximum practical extent. I'm excited to see how the build turns out, and am a big fan of both you and @GamersNexus!
that only works if the tubing you use has good thermal transfer. acrylic wouldn't work for that. This is just for show. Something made with purpose would have been made with copper tubing and directed flow channels where there was a clearly marked chilled side and hot side.
Someone at EK was being a troll, and the CEO said "bet? put it in production.."
Hmmm 2 loops different colors. Have the opposite color going into reservoir would look cool.
does not work if they are mixing with each other though🤣🤣
you'll figure it out when your like why are both loops changing to the same color? and be like oh🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
500$ before tax for this plate without fittings is absolutely insane.. Who buys this??
no one that's using it for a practical build.. definitely something aimed more at the exhibition/display custom build at shows type stuff.
Enthusiast
The easily led hobbyist with plenty of disposable cash
People who sold their 3080 for a 4090.
I love the collabs and challenges among tech channels. ❤
Im looking forward to seeing the insane build that Yall use it in.
As for case: How about the Lian Li V3000+? Go big or go home.
build in the green neighborhood power box by the sidewalk
A fish tank. Then the 32 points of failure would make sense. Scuba Steve would love it
The Thermaltake CTE E600 MX would be a cool case for this as it fits up to 3x 140s in the back 👍
This reminds me of an old Numberphile episode on the Enigma machine, with the plugbank on the front for that extra scrambling.....
it is uttering ridiculous and I love it.
Couple options: 4 vertical tubes in two different coolant colors running vertically through clear coolant. Then you can use white colored RGB fans to provide glow.
Second, use short straight pipes and plug into the two port sets. Then alternate the colored coolants between tubes.
Use them in the Phanteks NV9 🤘🏻
Hey Jay, you wanted to build in the Phanteks NV9 , maybe you can use that case here.
Nv9 case. Huge and plenty of room to work and full glass to show it off.
ok, idea. I have been looking at this and have been thinking about building my own case with this. (I don't have the skills nor the money to do now) but you can :)
Use an old case for form factor and make it a piece of designer furniture, but still showcasing the watercooled build with the block as the main scene :)
You can use this in a dual loop set up where each loop is a different color and fill this block with one color and pipe the other color through the block so you can see it going through. Maybe clear yellow in the block and blue in the pipe throughs so you see green piping through.
Use glass tubing - you can buy 12mm OD borosilicate glass tubes with 90-degree bends - also, you'll know if any of the fittings leak because the colors will blend
Like this idea I hope he tries it
Phanteks NV9 with the double loop could be sick
Got an ek240 aio hearing constantly how high quality they are designed and in my opinion have a very nice sleek aesthetic.
Great video man! and Case I think you should use the new Hyate Y70 Touch.
Case idea: Phanteks NV9
It would be interesting to see considering that Bykski have a distro/pump specifically designed for the NV7.
Although what would be really interesting is have 2 loops (contrasting colours) where the loops go into the opposite distro plates!
Great idea! Also vote for nv9... 🤞
When are you going to watercool your favorite CZcamsr?
Linus just did that with the bidet.
That sounds so wrong on so many levels…
for a Case you should use a Hyte Y70t. tons of glass to showcase from many different angles. The 45 degree double corner for an added element "Showyness", you can run a loop in between the displays in the 45 degree corner to either the Vertical GPU or to the CPU.
I like the new thumbnail style, keep up the good work guys.
This is pretty dope and the possibilities are quite versatile. EK makes some neato stuff. Also, use it in the NV9
Exactly what makes that thing neat? In all my years doing water cooling, I have never needed that, and I never will.
@@AB-80X Watercool inception bro. Tubing in the front waterfall in the back! all contained! You could even do a loop with different colors in the tubing and the waterfall in the back could be on a different loop and be a cool contrast of colors. There's a lot of possiblity with this.
aged like milk
Hey Jay & team, the case I would like for to see you use for these Loop Hole products is the EK-Quantum InWin 977EK. Thanks for the video!
Jay, it would be interesting for you to go really obscure with the build with one distro plate for the cpu and gpu, which is transferring the heat of these components to the other distroplate with just radiators.
It would be interesting to see how much heat can be removed from the loop by just fitting and cables inside of the reservoir combo.
Maybe that was ups, fedex, or usps fault
Both boxes were likely shipped in another box, possibly with their own padding. The out box probably had no damage. This made Jay come to the conclusion the box was packed damaged and did not happen from shipping. Otherwise, since Jay does not seem like a moron, he would know it was damaged in shipping, and not make the comment about it in the first place.
Or you know, it was damaged in shipping, and in that case you're saying Jay is a moron who can't figure that out, and assumes it was the company's fault and not damaged in shipping.
Maybe that was ups, fedex, or usps fault?
Of course it is. It’s the us.
When something is that small, it is easy for the sender to pack it. They know how it is treated. That was on EK.
@JayzTwoCents you can open the pump and solder a 4 pin PWM fan wire to the pump. You just have to be careful that the pump doesn't pull more amperage than the motherboard can handle.
The order of operations is important. With the way those 90s are attached you could insert your the tubes first and then screw both sides in the distro plate.
This video didn't age well.... super awkward watching this AFTER the EK fallout.
Like if you watch this video after the ek scandal 😢
Use a case where you can have one in the front, one in the back. Create unnecessary loopage and have different colors for CPU and GPU. Non-opague coolant but 2 different colors so you can see the other color within each resevoir.
jay you should do a twin loop with these. one loop being as an example blue and the other red. have one loop a going through loop b's block
ThermalTake P8 TG massive case ample room and looks sick with the sides taken off and just having an open case. That's how I run mine
This feels like its best use would be as a key to mak another distro plate.
I could see this being really cool with a duel loop and different color coolant. You could have the reservoir be red coolant and have blue flow through it giving a real freaky look. Or something along those lines.
Jay, please use the Monteck King 95 case. Thank you for your great content and for enduring. God bless!
Jay .... need to see this in a Mountain Mods case! You know you wanna do it.
im glad to see jay and gamersnexus have a good relation the only two tech reviewers i even care to watch
Got to be an Inwin case. Also you can have 2 different colour loops with the internal tubes being different to the filled liquid
In win 915 would be fun
I think you should use the two of those as the ends of your case and build copper tubing runs between them as the frame of your custom built case....
O11 Dynamic Evo, of course! Its just an awesome case, even if its been out a while and its incredibly common.
Booooooriing!!!!
If you have all things feeding into this at sections of the loop it might help temps by acting as a heat exchanger. Hot out from CPU passing through the cold reservoir
I can see you're building up to a 10-part follow up video series here.
A dual loop with the runs passing through the other loops resivour would look pretty cool. Have them different colors too.
2 of those would be nice for car build, make them as cylinder heads for a v-engine
I should show you how my replacement pump arrived. I took pictures of it. The box was concave on one side and it was shipped in the retail box. Luckily it survived.
I like how much room for creativity this will provide. A waterfall? Sure! Crazy multi loops with different fluids? Heck ya!
This would fit perfectly in my Thermaltake View 51
FINALLY!! This community is awesome.
Hey jay, I have a new build in the works in the Thermaltake c700 CTE and I will be using 3x280mm rads and a DDC combo pump. CPU and GPU cooled. Do you think I will have any issues or should I get a booster pump? The rad will be side/side/bottom so the highest it will have to pump is the CPU I am removing my Filter from the loop and adding a flow meter for less restriction. Although the filter I have can be used w/o the filter screen just for looks so I may leave it in for that haha. thanks for all you do man!!
When you use two of these and clear tubes, how about using different dyes and let the loops "cross" so you get a color mix. Let the colored water from the first reservoir flow through the internal loop of the other and visa versa.
I think it could be interesting with two as you could do 2 different colours next to each other one being routed through the others reservoir
I had to do a lot of custom grinding and hacking to my Cooler Master Cosmos c700m and the included gpu mount to fit two 60mm 360 radiators and retain my optical drive as well as an elgota capture card and usb card, but it came out wonderful
~10:30 in, you're talking about the fittings not having any sort of clamping ability like external ones. It's not like you need to worry about them leaking at all. :)
I would think you could use it by connecting components in parallel i.e. multiple outs (or split after the outlet using T fittings) to each component then each component returns to a separate inlet port
Can't wait for you to do a build with this because I am even more confused now than when the video started. 😅
Use them in conjunction with the Singularity quad 560 radiator waterboxes!! Have one desk for the computer and watercooling, and a second for the monitor setup.
Could do some cool stuff with dual loops in this with different coloured fluids etc. Using the manifold as a res for one loop and the internal runs for the other.
Seeing that you have 2, could you use 2 different colours that run through the same distro but be kept separate from each other if you get what i mean
I’d say this is a customisable distribution plate/reservoir and I love the idea of
Falcon northwest would have a nice lineup of a OG-Oversized case for a full motherboard cooling block build with a big space for reservoir custom wide diameter tubed watercooling for just board itself. The gpu can be optional in the air cooling or waterblock addition.
The Be Quiet Case you reviewed not long ago sounds like good pick
This would be awesome to use in a build with two of these distro plates, but run them as to serperate loops with different colours and have them run through each other, so you get like pink tubes in a blue reservoir and blue tubes in the pink res.
Loving the Jerry Rig Everything knife. Creators supporting creators.
Corsair 7000 series case. I'm using one with the intention of one day using a water loop as well, just right now I can't be assed and there's a lot more fudging around with shizz to get it all working. but hey, we got your vids for that, right?
I’m ready to see this build
Damn!!! That'll be a number one thing I need in my next build. It's pretty much like adding a fan to a case. BTW, will 12mm soft tubing work as well?
Jay please do a video about the white pc build you have in the background. did you build it for a client ? whats the story behind it please because it looks really good
7:12 I've done that with every EK tool I've had... 🤣
2 in a build but separate loops with different colours so you could have one loop pass through inside the manifold of the other
Using two of these in 2 separate loops with different fluid colors that pass through the other colors blocks would be interesting. Such as a Yellow loop in one with a Blue loop in the other so you get a Green look inside the blocks where the one loop passes through the other.
That is so nice, I can only drool in my dreams over parts like these, I will never be able to afford them. Can hardly wait to see it built out though, bet it will look so slick.
Would be interesting to see this in a Fractal Design case. Haven't seen many watercooling builds in them.
Why not cut to length then screw the fitting in?
Could you make a bespoke wood/metal frame? Given that you can use riser cables, components could be mounted on angles.
Build it in the Phanteks NV9. Dual 140 mount in the rear. Perfect for this.
I wonder if you could combine this with copper tubing and get something insane like the LTT chiller and use one loop to cool the fluid for the main loop as to avoid condensation issues from sub zero temps. Essentially by running the warm end of the loop of the main systems cooling through the sub zero fluid from the chiller to remove more heat from the liquid. It's completely excessive and entirely niche but could be fun.
Using two make dual loop, one is the rest for CPU but the return tube matrix(?) is the GPU and the other is GPU res with CPU return tube matrix.
Thermaltake tower 500 for the case! It doesn’t get enough love but is badass.
you need to install both and use two different colours (or clear and colour or use colour tubes) then feed through each other
Montech King 95 Pro I think it would be funny running a quad rad setup on it 280 in front, both 360 bottom and top, 120 rad in the rear exhaust and the 280 in the back of the case can be the distro plate.
Would be kind of cool to run two of those with two "seperate" cooling loops for cpu/gpu with different color liquid going through tubes of other color (hard to make sense of that) but you get it.
O11 Dynamic Mini. I think it would look real nice in there.
Look forward to seeing you build with this. You'll have a 4090s worth of money in fittings though
I guess you could have the returns at the top, cascading over water wheels, tipping buckets, etc.