Kassadra is serious as deimos and it feels evil But alexios looks some one stepped on his food But as mercenary Alexios seems much more play full and care free
But Deimos was always meant to be a brute. A puppet and a weapon. I felt that Alexios was always a whole lot more intimidating and scary as Deimos (I'm referring to the scene when Kassandra finds him talking to the corpse of a guy he just killed saying something like "I will destroy everything you have built" or something like that. (Also, Deimos is a male name. To me, I don't think I could ever get around that if I was playing the scenario where Kassandra is Deimos. It would always bug me).@@dexios819
THANK YOU I’ve been saying this! I love his sarcasm and carefree personality! Plus, Kassandra’s seriousness fits better as Deimos because it makes her more intimidating imo. Also the fact that Alexios lost his sister, later met Phoibe who made him feel like he had his sister back, only for him to lose Phoibe as well… it just made it even more emotional for me
I think Alexios can do intimidating voice better, when you threaten someone who keeps pulling your leg or using you. For immersion reasons I went on a killing spree with Alexios after Phoibe's death, no more hiding, anything that comes your way you kill it! A shame we can't find Phoibe in Elysium later.
I have started playing recently, and man ..Alexios is so expressive in the confrontation scene with Nikolas, you can see a blend of frustration,anger, and curiosity .. He is more expressive yet got overlooked by his heavy accent .
Alexios grew on me along with the game itself as I kept playing. He is so fun, charismatic. He has a strong himbo energy and I love him for it. Not to mention, he is SO Handsome.
Can we still protest about Kassandra in AC Valhalla? They should put a choice between Kassandra and Alexious in Valhalla too. If we play as Alexios, We got Alexios in Valhalla, and if we play as Kassandra, we got Kassandra in Valhalla. That would be fair.
Yup it was annoying to see Kassandra in Valhalla when I played as Alexios. I Don't understand why Ubisoft gave this option to choose between man/ woman and then they say the women Kassandra and female eivor are who you supposed to be playing with. I Don't have a problem to play with a female protagonist dont get me wrong but now my whole storyline is f****d up. 🤯
@@jelleharkema4712 Ahh... if only AC Odyssey and Valhalla can be modded. I would gladly to see someone mod Kassandra into Alexious with original voice over. Are you ever send an email to ubisoft about this, so they'll make a patch/update in AC Valhalla?
I like Alexios as the main character also. Not only that, I think Kassandra makes a better Deimos. She sounds a lot more unhinged and unstable, like she's always on the verge of snapping
I remember feeling like I was taking crazy pills when everyone on the AC subreddit was saying Alexios sounded too cartoonish/had a tough guy tryhard voice when Odyssey launched. His delivery in cinematics (the fully mocapped ones) is so good. His actor also does a damn fine Batman in Gotham Knights. I like Kassandra's performance a lot, but I don't see (and/or hear) what a lot of people do with her. She definitely gets outshined by Alexios in more than a few pivotal story moments (particularly the scenes concerning Phoibe in the main quest).
There's literally nothing that sets them apart. Both VA's did a great job, and shined in different areas. People are such bandwagoners. One person said it and everyone jumped on instead of forming their own opinion. To this day I've never heard a legitimate argument for why Kass has better VA. It always boils down to nothing but opinion with no real reasoning
@@PLSE_SND_BY_ I still can't wrap my head around the fact that people like you exist. You talked without actually saying anything, and then almost parroted what SalvationCode said but in a more abrasive tone. What exactly did you think you were contributing to this discussion? All you accomplished was making yourself easy to dislike thanks to how you presented your thoughts. Take it down a notch and use your inside voice next time.
@Eleni_Rota The developers of the game confirmed kassandra was the original protagonist alexios was only added because the boss of ubisoft didn't think a game with kassandra would sell
@@Twilight24682 You know what? As a gamer for many years, I never believe a single word from game dev team executives, they will spout nonsense for a purpose and they rarely tell the truth. I just believe what the game tells me, it's that simple.
The only reason why is Kassandra is because no one cares about the previous AC games with Female Protagonist (people don't like the Chronicles games, and have no clue that Assassin's Creed Liberation exists!) Alexios as the Main Character is WAAAAAAAY Better in my opinion and Im happy to hear U share my pov
People don't like Chronicles? First time I'm hearing it. That's like the only true stealth etries in the franchise. And their story fills many gaps between Rogue, Unity and Syndicate.
I really dislike when any game gives you the illusion of choice but then goes ahead and picks a canon character later. Valhalla did it again with having Eivor canonically being female.
When the game came out, i thought Alexios was canon, because he was on the promo posters everywhere. I was quite shocked to learn Kassandra is canon instead of him. Also he strikes me as more appealing for reasons explained in your video. I think his voice actor did a good job and he is more expressive than Kass. But i a little bit regret i didnt go with Kass just because she looks more badass in the greek armor.
I think it's because Kassandra's voice actress was focusing on trying to sound more authentically Greek, whereas Alexios' voice actor, while doing the same thing, also purposely tried to sound like Ezio Auditore (his own words).
Thank you for your video , i thought about playing Odyssey with Kasandra but scene with Cyclops convinced me to play with Alexios. This scene shows that joking in this type of situations can make a game more enjoyable.
I agree completely on all your points about Alexios, I played everything Odyssey had to offer as Alexios and in my opinion I think it was very wrong for Ubisoft to decide for all the players who the “canon” character was for Odyssey. Ubisoft shouldn’t give us the players a choice on who to play the game as and then the very next game say it was actually the other character makes us feel like our choices don’t matter💁🏻♂️
yea tbh it's way more emotional when alexios is the lead, the way he reads the script, the way he is just better with characters and emotions, or his reaction to certain scenes, that makes abig difference
The 'Protagonist' For Odyssey, regardless of gender, is supposed to be a disowned child. One who was taken in by parental figures then taught to fend for themselves as a mercenary. This in standard storytelling produces the rougish archetype; Such as Han Solo, Jack Sparrow... Or to be very close to the mark, Achilles. There is no doubt in my mind that Alexios was supposed to be the played sibling. A cocky, charismatic figure who's used to talking their way into contracts and out of problems. While Kassandra is, to be blunt, all the potential without the privates. This naturally creates a chip on their shoulder. Which makes them direct, ambitious, and quick to anger. Anyone with even a semblance of writing experience will see what voice actor was given what direction for what role. And that somewhere early in production, the narrative shifted to both siblings being playable, but the direction of character personality didn't.. They were simply given the same lines.
I definitely agree. I played as Alexios and when I watched videos I always saw people playing as kassandra. I enjoyed Alexios way more. He's funnier, more sarcastic and overall just gives more of a human impression than the more robotic or montone one of kassandra. (In my opinion) Thanks for making a video about this🙂
Tbf, Alexios WAS the Canon choice of the game, he was featured on the MAIN cover, a lot of the promotional Materials are with HIM and he is featured primarily in Nearly all menus... HOWEVER Ubisoft just did a (Bethesda In Fallout 3) and just turned their back on what they presented, in the name of Gender equality and stuff. Amazing Job... 👌
Odyssey Novelization left the chat... He was never supposed to be the canon. He was just used for marketing because some idiots at high places thought that the female protagonist can't sell that well. And that is also the reason why they had to also add Alexios as the main protagonist and do all the voice acting all again but with switched roles. (They did the same with Valhalla, they showed male Eivor in trailer etc... (and female is canon). But there is one big difference... Male Valhalla protagonist is actually good unlike Alexios)
@@peterstasak5858 More people picked Alexios though so I don't understand your point how could he have been bad ? Also the player base is predominantly male so upper management didn't want to remove representation for the majority of people actually buying the game in order to push progressive ideals about women in ancient Greece.... Finally the game makes zero sense if you play as a woman
Strangely enough the protagonist whoever you choose is treated as a male and experiences the Greek world through a male prospective yeah Ubisoft is a shitty exist company, but it doesn’t change the fact the character is written as male @@peterstasak5858
@@LordDarshdan Read Odyssey novel then talk about sense bcs you're the one that doesn't make any sense. According to your logic they should replace Lara Croft for a man because Tomb Raider has mostly male audience or do you really believe that Tomb Raider has mostly female audience ?
Probably one of my favorite AC games of the newer generation but yeah I gotta agree Alexios had more emotion that I liked. One of the biggest moments I didn’t like playing Kassandra was phoebes death. Kassandra sounded a little too monotone for the emotion Alexios delivers in the same scene
I love Alexios and think he fits much better, I have made so many clips where I simply bursted out in chuckles cuz the voice acting was so perfectly saracastic with some situations. His voice acting is very emotional and into the role, he has much more weight to it imo. He also appears in the first main trailers and pictures of the game which means their first plan was Alexios and then appeased through Kassandra to save face. They should have given us the choice to pick whenever the characters showed up for example in Valhalla, im playing ac odyssey again rn and gonna continue with all of valhalla with dlc and seeing kassandra there is just gonna feel disconnected from my whole playthrough with alexios which just totally destroys the immersion i get from the games
I am incredibly biased towards this game with it being my first ac game, but i fell in love with it and played all the way through the campaign with both, and as others have stated alexios makes more sense historically, and i prefer his voice as well, not really for any particular reason though
Man I love Alexios. He's like a dorky but badass-when-he-needs-to-be proto Ezio. Seeing him go from humble mercenary to living demigod was an amazing character arc. For me, Alexios will always be the Eagle Bearer. Kassandra will always be Deimos. I never understood the complaints about his voice acting, I actually prefer it to Kassandra's. And I'm glad you pointed out the thing about his facial animations. That's always something that stuck out to me the first time playing Odyssey - Alexios is very expressive with his face, Kassandra is a bit more stoic and I've tried a few times but I just can't get into Kassandra as the Eagle Bearer
Honestly I think Kassandra is a great canon character just not enough energy as the actress put into the character as she should've. However in my personal opinion ubisoft should've probably done it as another Jacob and Evie game. Play as two different characters with different stories until they both intertwine with each other somehow. And I think if the plot twist were to happen it would be where you have to choose who dies as the final sacrifice until one of them becomes the main character of the story further. At least that's something I would've hoped happened.
*SPOILER* In my dumb headcanon I pretend Alexios is the main character of Odyssey, saved Deimos, and gave her the staff of Hermes so she could make up for all the heinous stuff she did in the game by wielding it. Hence justifying her appearance in Valhalla. It makes no sense but I like it. It also feels better in Odyssey to be looking for his little sister, rather than the other way around.
Totally agree. I think it’s more fitting for Deimos/Kassandra to be the staff keeper as a sort of atonement while Alexios gets to live a relatively normal life with his family and friends
Odyssey is one of my top 3 games I’ve ever played. I’ve replayed it from scratch and ng+ multiple times each and I can confidently say Alexios is a fantastic protagonist and Kassandra a great antagonist but they suck in the alternative roles.
I believe it’s more about pushing the current agendas instead of the historical accuracy. But in my mind this was one if not the best assassins creed game I’ve ever played and Alexis as the character I think was perfect. and I’ve played since Altair on 360.
Alexios is such a baby. I spent over 200 hours in a main game and half of Fate of Atlantis DLC (yet). And I just cannot imagine Kassandra being a cannon anymore. He is a jokester, he is menace, he is a brute and he is a softy. Especially in the scenes with Phoibe and Myrine, he just fits there better. The way he can scream at his enemies, slay the ones he is supposed to. And the next moment he is crying over Phoibe…. It’s just priceless. Michael Antonakos did a fantastic job at bringing Alexios’s to life. Odyssey should not have a protagonist option imho. The fact Kassandra appears in Valhalla is one thing, but the Odyssey book is also written from Kassandra’s POV, which is hard to read and…. Just doesnt sit right with me after spending so much time with Alexios, seeing the story from his perspective.
I like Kassandra is the main character, but the Olympics point is a real problem, especially because the historical Discovery Tour in the same game clearly, and repeatedly, points out that women were not allowed in the Olympics. I’m glad to see somebody pointing it out. That said, Alexios makes a far better Deimos than Kassandra does.
I finally got a chance to play Odyssey for the first time this winter and since I knew Kassandra appeared later on, I decided to play as her. It was fun and she suited some scenes perfectly but I was also getting quite annoyed with her voice, so much that I didn't even start any of the dlc's with her. It was dull, some dialogue options which looked fun came out sounding really mean and her expressions were lacking. So I started a 2nd playthrough with Alexios this time around and it's WAY better, like he actually is funny and he's expressive when Kassandra wasn't. As much as I like Kassandra and love her in some scenes, Alexios simply suits this game better, both in terms of voice and facial expressions, nevermind the historical accuracy, since let's be real that's not the only thing they got wrong but then again history is merely an inspiration here.
One interesting point is that in the spanish version of the game, Alexios voice actor is the same as Matthew Mcconaughey’s, which has also some Ancient Greece vibes.
In fact Alexios was supposed to be the basic canon character of this opus, we only learned a few years ago that Assassin's Creed Odyssey was supposed to be a story set in the Assassin's Creed universe. the title was "Odyssey an assassin's creed adventure" and we see in concept art that Alexios was to be the main character and that Kassandra was more than secondary. I hope to see was clear in my explanation.
I can only play characters I can identify with on some level to enjoy immersion in a game story, that's why I always play as Alexios and it feels right in every way in the game. Alexios' voice acting isn't bad at all, clearly they've never played the game as Alexios before. A voice takes some getting used to, take Roshan from Valhalla and Mirage. Sounds like a 50 year old chain smoking woman from the Simpsons, I couldn't bear hearing it until Mirage lets you get used to it. People just didn't like the sound of the voice, it has nothing to do with the voice acting. Alexios was way better at sounding intimidating and cocky than Kassandra.
Yeah Alexios definitely takes the win as MC of Odyssey. I played as Kassandra at first but I genuinely did not find anything likable about her even after I completed the game. I replayed as Alexios and I just fell in love. He actually feels like someone who was raised by Markos, and his friendlier vibe is something I could see getting him points with kids like Phoebe too. He's a silly man that fits with the silly and fantastical story of Odyssey.
Amazing video my friend!!! I just subscribed to your channel! I love Alexios and Kassandra, but I played the entire game with Alexios first and I had no problems with his voice!! I really like his voice and facial expressions a lot!! 😁😁😎😎💯💯💯✨✨✨🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Very much agree. Developers intented to design Cassandra as the more suitable one but it yet wasn't. There are so so many scenes and moments where Alexios just naturally triumphs. Firstly, all comedy scenes sound much funnier with Alexios. And then the action scenes, greatest example of which was that scene in Legacy of the first blade where he saves Darius and says " if it's me you are looking for, here I am" , was scary with Alexios, barely had any impact as Cassandra. The other great scene is the introduction video with Brasidas where they fight together. Looks so fitting with the 2 male characters. And there are many more. It's been very depressing playing Odyssey and Valhalla as male protagonists seeing these games were forcefully made for the female characters.
I'm still kinda bummed that Kassandra is canon and Alexios isn't. Nothing against Kassandra. She's cool but Alexios is just a bit better. If one is canon and the other isn't, what's the point of having the choice in the first place? I think Alexios is the better protagonist and Kassandra is the better Deimos. At least the encounter with her in Valhalla is optional and skippable. Hopefully it stays that way. But I'm not holding my breath.
To be honest I think Alexios is a great character and should have been the canon character than Kassandra. And that is as this good gentleman said about the olympics. Women where not allowed in the games, not even as a spectater. That was seen as a crime.
Man Alexios is a better protagonist than Kassandra and kassie is a better Deimos than Alexios cuz hear what Alexios as Deimos was so hilarious stupid but on the other hand Kassandra as Deimos is so good as a villain but she isnt good for being the main character
Ive thought this for years, and on the other hand i also thing kassandra fits deimos much better! The anger and frustration as well as the fact that the societal constraints of the time dont apply to her since shes in an underground organization makes her a much better character for deimos.
I always felt more of a connection to Alexios than Kassandra. I played both and I struggle to beat the game as her. There’s nothing wrong with Kassandra as a character, I just think Alexios is more relatable. Not because he’s a man, but his sarcasm and his free spirit and monotone responses are literally me. I felt that they just added her to people please. However I never felt that they made a compelling female protagonist in AC. Making her canon was a mistake in my humble opinion, and it doesn’t feel natural. I hope one day we get a compelling female protagonist that don’t feel out of place.
When i got the ps5 the store gave me random ps plus games one of them was this game so that was my first ac ever then i went to ac 2 cuz many people said it was the best but.. it wasn't what i expected 😂
Alexios really shines as the main hero he's got a strong vibe and his story grabs you. He's all over the ads, too, which makes him feel like the real deal. Kassandra, on the other hand, seems perfect for the bad guy role, she's got that edge. It really looks like Ubisoft threw her in at the last second as the canonical main due to some hidden agenda. After playing as both, I've gotta say, Alexios is my go-to lead character. He's the heart of the story for me.
No, it's a bit odd, because evidence suggests that they always planned to make her the main character, but just threw the male protagonist ad stuff in because they were scared they'd have less attention for a female protagonist. Because before the game even came out, they already had the novelization ready. There's also the fact that in the behind the scenes or a personal interview with the voice actors they stated that they made Alexios more aggressive or bitter in his conversations than Kassandra. Basically, she'll have a kinder demeanor to characters compared to Alexios.
@@maxm.m.7219Ok, agreed. But Alexios overall still feels like a better protagonist. And being scared of how gamers would react to a female protagonist is really not an excuse, Gamers will like a game irrespective of the character as long as the performance and writing match the scenario and narrative. if Ubisoft was thinking that. Misleading your gamers in the ad campaign is not a good way to go about it. If you really wish to make a game you tell the story you want to tell not someone else. Giving a choice which would divide who is the main is not the right way. They can't cater to everyone's need but they should be sure and confident about what they are making.
It genuinely feels like Alexios was supposed to be the protagonist. Kassandra as a villain is just so much more intimidating than Alexios as a villian. And Alexios as a protagonist not only makes more sense generally but acting wise he's so much better at playing the hero.
And also in the Olympic game quest women aren't allowed to see the game not even the mother as we see in the quest we see that so Kassandra playing in it is absurd😂
Finally someone who understands why Alexios should be canon
I personally think both should be canon
Same with male Eivor
@@nestormelendez9005there were no female Spartans alexios is canon to me fuck pc same as male evior.
@@yoshpeters3079 correct , but I still think both should be canon since both are playable
the simplest answer is that he is much hotter
I know they say Kassandra is canon, but I think it’s clear Alexios was the original character and Kassandra added to appease the crowds.
Hmm. Maybe
Except at some points they literally call Alexios “she”
@@mattbettcher7439 source
@@nestormelendez9005 umm it’s in the game.. I literally heard it… are you dumb?
@@nestormelendez9005 are you stupid? It’s an actual voice line in the game, replay as alexios and listen
A fight between Eivor and Alexios in the graveyard would have been awesome.
And preferable.
My Alexios would've fought her, then flirted with her xD
EDIT: Or him. Alkibiades was such a bad influence.
Instead they put macho woman very unrealistic
Tough kassandra is Canon and you alexios fans need to get over it
@@Twilight24682 There is an ancient Greek saying spoken before invoking the wrath of Ares for war: η μαμά σου
Tbh I also think that kassandra makes a better deimos than alexios
This is i agreed 100%
Kassadra is serious as deimos and it feels evil
But alexios looks some one stepped on his food
But as mercenary
Alexios seems much more play full and care free
But Deimos was always meant to be a brute. A puppet and a weapon. I felt that Alexios was always a whole lot more intimidating and scary as Deimos (I'm referring to the scene when Kassandra finds him talking to the corpse of a guy he just killed saying something like "I will destroy everything you have built" or something like that. (Also, Deimos is a male name. To me, I don't think I could ever get around that if I was playing the scenario where Kassandra is Deimos. It would always bug me).@@dexios819
I agree, definitely. She was more intimidating as Deimos, while Alexios was more like a toddler having a tantrum
Really? Alexios felt more real as Deimos than Kassandra being one
THANK YOU I’ve been saying this! I love his sarcasm and carefree personality!
Plus, Kassandra’s seriousness fits better as Deimos because it makes her more intimidating imo.
Also the fact that Alexios lost his sister, later met Phoibe who made him feel like he had his sister back, only for him to lose Phoibe as well… it just made it even more emotional for me
I think Alexios can do intimidating voice better, when you threaten someone who keeps pulling your leg or using you. For immersion reasons I went on a killing spree with Alexios after Phoibe's death, no more hiding, anything that comes your way you kill it! A shame we can't find Phoibe in Elysium later.
I have started playing recently, and man ..Alexios is so expressive in the confrontation scene with Nikolas, you can see a blend of frustration,anger, and curiosity .. He is more expressive yet got overlooked by his heavy accent .
Alexios grew on me along with the game itself as I kept playing. He is so fun, charismatic. He has a strong himbo energy and I love him for it. Not to mention, he is SO Handsome.
As a straight man I got to admit he is indeed a handsome man so your not wrong there
Ikr
Can we still protest about Kassandra in AC Valhalla? They should put a choice between Kassandra and Alexious in Valhalla too. If we play as Alexios, We got Alexios in Valhalla, and if we play as Kassandra, we got Kassandra in Valhalla. That would be fair.
Yeah. Dragon Age and Mass Effect does those things. As it should.
Agree
Yup it was annoying to see Kassandra in Valhalla when I played as Alexios. I Don't understand why Ubisoft gave this option to choose between man/ woman and then they say the women Kassandra and female eivor are who you supposed to be playing with. I Don't have a problem to play with a female protagonist dont get me wrong but now my whole storyline is f****d up. 🤯
@@jelleharkema4712 Ahh... if only AC Odyssey and Valhalla can be modded. I would gladly to see someone mod Kassandra into Alexious with original voice over. Are you ever send an email to ubisoft about this, so they'll make a patch/update in AC Valhalla?
I like Alexios as the main character also.
Not only that, I think Kassandra makes a better Deimos. She sounds a lot more unhinged and unstable, like she's always on the verge of snapping
Yeah but her animations and movements are the same as Alexios which makes it less appealing in my opinion
@@sakaiclips I don't think that being "appealing" was on the bulletin when Ubisoft's creative director was moving forward with Deimos as a character.
I remember feeling like I was taking crazy pills when everyone on the AC subreddit was saying Alexios sounded too cartoonish/had a tough guy tryhard voice when Odyssey launched. His delivery in cinematics (the fully mocapped ones) is so good. His actor also does a damn fine Batman in Gotham Knights.
I like Kassandra's performance a lot, but I don't see (and/or hear) what a lot of people do with her. She definitely gets outshined by Alexios in more than a few pivotal story moments (particularly the scenes concerning Phoibe in the main quest).
There's literally nothing that sets them apart. Both VA's did a great job, and shined in different areas. People are such bandwagoners. One person said it and everyone jumped on instead of forming their own opinion. To this day I've never heard a legitimate argument for why Kass has better VA. It always boils down to nothing but opinion with no real reasoning
@@PLSE_SND_BY_did you even watch the video?
@@PLSE_SND_BY_ I still can't wrap my head around the fact that people like you exist. You talked without actually saying anything, and then almost parroted what SalvationCode said but in a more abrasive tone. What exactly did you think you were contributing to this discussion? All you accomplished was making yourself easy to dislike thanks to how you presented your thoughts. Take it down a notch and use your inside voice next time.
Bro, the number of times people called me misogynist because I my opinion is Alexios is a better protagonist
Luckily I'm female so I can boldly say I think Alexios is the original protagonist
another female here, Alexios was way more fun to play as and definitely a better protagonist
@Eleni_Rota
The developers of the game confirmed kassandra was the original protagonist alexios was only added because the boss of ubisoft didn't think a game with kassandra would sell
@@Twilight24682 You know what? As a gamer for many years, I never believe a single word from game dev team executives, they will spout nonsense for a purpose and they rarely tell the truth. I just believe what the game tells me, it's that simple.
@Eleni_Rota
The developers worked on the game. I'm sure they know more then you do
I play as Alexios, and Alexios is the perfect Protagonist and Kassandra the perfect anatagonist
The only reason why is Kassandra is because no one cares about the previous AC games with Female Protagonist (people don't like the Chronicles games, and have no clue that Assassin's Creed Liberation exists!) Alexios as the Main Character is WAAAAAAAY Better in my opinion and Im happy to hear U share my pov
People don't like Chronicles? First time I'm hearing it. That's like the only true stealth etries in the franchise. And their story fills many gaps between Rogue, Unity and Syndicate.
@@ravendark5588I also find it pretty cool that Arbaaz Mir is Henry Green's father. (Henry Green's real name is Jayadeep Mir).
Yeah I never understood the hate.. I've played him twice and Kassandra once. I'll never go back to Kassandra.
I just like Alexios because he has so much more personality than Kassandra to me. Even stoic characters like Connor show more emotion then Kassandra.
I really dislike when any game gives you the illusion of choice but then goes ahead and picks a canon character later. Valhalla did it again with having Eivor canonically being female.
When the game came out, i thought Alexios was canon, because he was on the promo posters everywhere. I was quite shocked to learn Kassandra is canon instead of him.
Also he strikes me as more appealing for reasons explained in your video. I think his voice actor did a good job and he is more expressive than Kass.
But i a little bit regret i didnt go with Kass just because she looks more badass in the greek armor.
I think it's because Kassandra's voice actress was focusing on trying to sound more authentically Greek, whereas Alexios' voice actor, while doing the same thing, also purposely tried to sound like Ezio Auditore (his own words).
Thank you for your video , i thought about playing Odyssey with Kasandra but scene with Cyclops convinced me to play with Alexios. This scene shows that joking in this type of situations can make a game more enjoyable.
I agree completely on all your points about Alexios, I played everything Odyssey had to offer as Alexios and in my opinion I think it was very wrong for Ubisoft to decide for all the players who the “canon” character was for Odyssey. Ubisoft shouldn’t give us the players a choice on who to play the game as and then the very next game say it was actually the other character makes us feel like our choices don’t matter💁🏻♂️
yea tbh it's way more emotional when alexios is the lead, the way he reads the script, the way he is just better with characters and emotions, or his reaction to certain scenes, that makes abig difference
Just enjoy the game and play as who you want to, it is a beautiful game and fun to play.
the games ass literlly the game that ruined ac but sure
@@jamal12313 it has nothing to do with ac yes but the game itself is very good and nice.
@@nisski2xxI mean, it does have something to do with it, but only in the second DLC, where it provides lore for the Isu.
I recently beaten Ac Odyssey my second assassin creed game , and Alexios was a lot of fun to play as
The 'Protagonist' For Odyssey, regardless of gender, is supposed to be a disowned child. One who was taken in by parental figures then taught to fend for themselves as a mercenary. This in standard storytelling produces the rougish archetype; Such as Han Solo, Jack Sparrow... Or to be very close to the mark, Achilles. There is no doubt in my mind that Alexios was supposed to be the played sibling. A cocky, charismatic figure who's used to talking their way into contracts and out of problems. While Kassandra is, to be blunt, all the potential without the privates. This naturally creates a chip on their shoulder. Which makes them direct, ambitious, and quick to anger.
Anyone with even a semblance of writing experience will see what voice actor was given what direction for what role. And that somewhere early in production, the narrative shifted to both siblings being playable, but the direction of character personality didn't.. They were simply given the same lines.
I definitely agree. I played as Alexios and when I watched videos I always saw people playing as kassandra. I enjoyed Alexios way more. He's funnier, more sarcastic and overall just gives more of a human impression than the more robotic or montone one of kassandra. (In my opinion)
Thanks for making a video about this🙂
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Tbf, Alexios WAS the Canon choice of the game, he was featured on the MAIN cover, a lot of the promotional Materials are with HIM and he is featured primarily in Nearly all menus... HOWEVER Ubisoft just did a (Bethesda In Fallout 3) and just turned their back on what they presented, in the name of Gender equality and stuff. Amazing Job... 👌
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He was never supposed to be the canon. He was just used for marketing because some idiots at high places thought that the female protagonist can't sell that well. And that is also the reason why they had to also add Alexios as the main protagonist and do all the voice acting all again but with switched roles. (They did the same with Valhalla, they showed male Eivor in trailer etc... (and female is canon). But there is one big difference... Male Valhalla protagonist is actually good unlike Alexios)
@@peterstasak5858 More people picked Alexios though so I don't understand your point how could he have been bad ? Also the player base is predominantly male so upper management didn't want to remove representation for the majority of people actually buying the game in order to push progressive ideals about women in ancient Greece.... Finally the game makes zero sense if you play as a woman
Strangely enough the protagonist whoever you choose is treated as a male and experiences the Greek world through a male prospective yeah Ubisoft is a shitty exist company, but it doesn’t change the fact the character is written as male @@peterstasak5858
I'm pretty sure there's an Easter egg in origins that is a bust of kassandra depicted as the eagle bearer...
@@LordDarshdan Read Odyssey novel then talk about sense bcs you're the one that doesn't make any sense. According to your logic they should replace Lara Croft for a man because Tomb Raider has mostly male audience or do you really believe that Tomb Raider has mostly female audience ?
Alexios is so funny 😂
Fun fact : kratos voice actor is from Germany not Greek
besides, kassandra is a better deimos
Probably one of my favorite AC games of the newer generation but yeah I gotta agree Alexios had more emotion that I liked. One of the biggest moments I didn’t like playing Kassandra was phoebes death. Kassandra sounded a little too monotone for the emotion Alexios delivers in the same scene
Personally I don’t really mind either protagonist, I like them both. But I prefer Kassandra a Demos so that’s why I play as Alexios
I love Alexios and think he fits much better, I have made so many clips where I simply bursted out in chuckles cuz the voice acting was so perfectly saracastic with some situations. His voice acting is very emotional and into the role, he has much more weight to it imo.
He also appears in the first main trailers and pictures of the game which means their first plan was Alexios and then appeased through Kassandra to save face.
They should have given us the choice to pick whenever the characters showed up for example in Valhalla, im playing ac odyssey again rn and gonna continue with all of valhalla with dlc and seeing kassandra there is just gonna feel disconnected from my whole playthrough with alexios which just totally destroys the immersion i get from the games
At last!!! Thank you!!! I played the game both ways to the end and I think too that Alexios is the better protagonist.
I am incredibly biased towards this game with it being my first ac game, but i fell in love with it and played all the way through the campaign with both, and as others have stated alexios makes more sense historically, and i prefer his voice as well, not really for any particular reason though
Try A.C. 2 and Brotherhood.
this was also my first AC game, but i just brought black flag and i guess my bias is changing :)
@@shinobi3383The voice actor for Alexios stated he was trying to sound like Ezio on purpose.
I was going to say that, he has so much more expresssion in cutscenes (and his voice in pt br is so great)
Man I love Alexios. He's like a dorky but badass-when-he-needs-to-be proto Ezio. Seeing him go from humble mercenary to living demigod was an amazing character arc.
For me, Alexios will always be the Eagle Bearer. Kassandra will always be Deimos. I never understood the complaints about his voice acting, I actually prefer it to Kassandra's.
And I'm glad you pointed out the thing about his facial animations. That's always something that stuck out to me the first time playing Odyssey - Alexios is very expressive with his face, Kassandra is a bit more stoic and I've tried a few times but I just can't get into Kassandra as the Eagle Bearer
I played the game as Alexios and loved it. When I tried to play Kassandra....I just couldn't. It was hard to listen to her.
Kassandra has a better voice though alexios sounds awful like nails on a chalkboard
agree agree of course man
wtf were they thinking
His likeness was based off of Ezio, which may a contributing factor as to why people love Alexios!
Honestly I think Kassandra is a great canon character just not enough energy as the actress put into the character as she should've. However in my personal opinion ubisoft should've probably done it as another Jacob and Evie game. Play as two different characters with different stories until they both intertwine with each other somehow. And I think if the plot twist were to happen it would be where you have to choose who dies as the final sacrifice until one of them becomes the main character of the story further. At least that's something I would've hoped happened.
it took me 90 hours to platinum it on playstation as Kassandra, now iam gonna play as Alexios on my steam deck
Isn’t there a way where Ubisoft can update AC Valhalla and add Alexios as an optional character to appear in that one DLC.
Alexios died at the end of odyssey ( canonically) so no Alexios is dead
*SPOILER*
In my dumb headcanon I pretend Alexios is the main character of Odyssey, saved Deimos, and gave her the staff of Hermes so she could make up for all the heinous stuff she did in the game by wielding it. Hence justifying her appearance in Valhalla. It makes no sense but I like it. It also feels better in Odyssey to be looking for his little sister, rather than the other way around.
It would make sense if they tried harder to create a story that makes more sense , similar to how Aya was also a playable character in Origins.
Totally agree. I think it’s more fitting for Deimos/Kassandra to be the staff keeper as a sort of atonement while Alexios gets to live a relatively normal life with his family and friends
Odyssey is one of my top 3 games I’ve ever played. I’ve replayed it from scratch and ng+ multiple times each and I can confidently say Alexios is a fantastic protagonist and Kassandra a great antagonist but they suck in the alternative roles.
Kassandra a very serious she makes a more convincing evil twin. Alexios carefree style and voice has more protagonist energy.
Yesss finally. I loved Alexios my than Kassandra for all the reasons your told. His voice actor but in a lot more effort to emotion.
I believe it’s more about pushing the current agendas instead of the historical accuracy. But in my mind this was one if not the best assassins creed game I’ve ever played and Alexis as the character I think was perfect. and I’ve played since Altair on 360.
I loved alexios a ton. To where the only bad thing about him was the fact he wasn't canon
Alexios is such a baby.
I spent over 200 hours in a main game and half of Fate of Atlantis DLC (yet). And I just cannot imagine Kassandra being a cannon anymore.
He is a jokester, he is menace, he is a brute and he is a softy.
Especially in the scenes with Phoibe and Myrine, he just fits there better. The way he can scream at his enemies, slay the ones he is supposed to. And the next moment he is crying over Phoibe…. It’s just priceless.
Michael Antonakos did a fantastic job at bringing Alexios’s to life.
Odyssey should not have a protagonist option imho.
The fact Kassandra appears in Valhalla is one thing, but the Odyssey book is also written from Kassandra’s POV, which is hard to read and…. Just doesnt sit right with me after spending so much time with Alexios, seeing the story from his perspective.
You had me by the first sentence not going to lie
I like Kassandra is the main character, but the Olympics point is a real problem, especially because the historical Discovery Tour in the same game clearly, and repeatedly, points out that women were not allowed in the Olympics. I’m glad to see somebody pointing it out. That said, Alexios makes a far better Deimos than Kassandra does.
Thank you for this video 🙏🏻
I finally got a chance to play Odyssey for the first time this winter and since I knew Kassandra appeared later on, I decided to play as her. It was fun and she suited some scenes perfectly but I was also getting quite annoyed with her voice, so much that I didn't even start any of the dlc's with her. It was dull, some dialogue options which looked fun came out sounding really mean and her expressions were lacking. So I started a 2nd playthrough with Alexios this time around and it's WAY better, like he actually is funny and he's expressive when Kassandra wasn't. As much as I like Kassandra and love her in some scenes, Alexios simply suits this game better, both in terms of voice and facial expressions, nevermind the historical accuracy, since let's be real that's not the only thing they got wrong but then again history is merely an inspiration here.
One interesting point is that in the spanish version of the game, Alexios voice actor is the same as Matthew Mcconaughey’s, which has also some Ancient Greece vibes.
I also think kassandra fits the crazy sibling character better. She’s a lot more intimidating than deimos-alexios
Alexios will always be my headcanon protagonist. I don't care what anyone says.
Kassandra is better as Deimos tbh, her attitude and actions fit better.
even the story about him havin a child and he is the protagonists rather than kassandra
the german voice for Alexios is so 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I one hundred percent agree, he is better
Always loved Alexios and have picked him over Kassandra in every playthrough. There's no comparison.
In fact Alexios was supposed to be the basic canon character of this opus, we only learned a few years ago that Assassin's Creed Odyssey was supposed to be a story set in the Assassin's Creed universe.
the title was "Odyssey an assassin's creed adventure" and we see in concept art that Alexios was to be the main character and that Kassandra was more than secondary.
I hope to see was clear in my explanation.
I can only play characters I can identify with on some level to enjoy immersion in a game story, that's why I always play as Alexios and it feels right in every way in the game. Alexios' voice acting isn't bad at all, clearly they've never played the game as Alexios before. A voice takes some getting used to, take Roshan from Valhalla and Mirage. Sounds like a 50 year old chain smoking woman from the Simpsons, I couldn't bear hearing it until Mirage lets you get used to it. People just didn't like the sound of the voice, it has nothing to do with the voice acting. Alexios was way better at sounding intimidating and cocky than Kassandra.
100% agreed
I like Kassandra more but Alexios is my main and headcanon protagonist for me
Honestly i love both to bits but seriously deimos needed more characterisation maybe play as deimos if you save them in the first blade dlc
I wanted to play with kassandra but i said to myself what the hell am doing? 😂 a spartan story must be played with a man
They put a woman as canon just to make the feminists happy 🤣
Yeah Alexios definitely takes the win as MC of Odyssey. I played as Kassandra at first but I genuinely did not find anything likable about her even after I completed the game. I replayed as Alexios and I just fell in love. He actually feels like someone who was raised by Markos, and his friendlier vibe is something I could see getting him points with kids like Phoebe too. He's a silly man that fits with the silly and fantastical story of Odyssey.
Amazing video my friend!!! I just subscribed to your channel! I love Alexios and Kassandra, but I played the entire game with Alexios first and I had no problems with his voice!! I really like his voice and facial expressions a lot!! 😁😁😎😎💯💯💯✨✨✨🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Awesome! Thanks for the sub!
I loved playing as Alexios. Both actors did an amazing job though
I could not agree more. Thank you
I completely agree
Very much agree. Developers intented to design Cassandra as the more suitable one but it yet wasn't. There are so so many scenes and moments where Alexios just naturally triumphs.
Firstly, all comedy scenes sound much funnier with Alexios. And then the action scenes, greatest example of which was that scene in Legacy of the first blade where he saves Darius and says " if it's me you are looking for, here I am" , was scary with Alexios, barely had any impact as Cassandra.
The other great scene is the introduction video with Brasidas where they fight together. Looks so fitting with the 2 male characters.
And there are many more.
It's been very depressing playing Odyssey and Valhalla as male protagonists seeing these games were forcefully made for the female characters.
i completely agree with you ! i love Alexios ! i subscribe to your channel !
I loved it to. Alexios is funny and carefree. Odessy is my favorite video game, not just Assassins Greed line.
Him and male Eivor were literally the covers Ubisoft was just doing damage control by claiming Cassandra & female Eivor were protagonists
I refuse to let whoever tell me a woman is the more normal character for a Spartan warrior be it an outcast or not.
It should have been like if you picked female eivor you would fight kasandra and vise versa.
Alexios is indeed better he just looks like he is enjoying himself
I'm still kinda bummed that Kassandra is canon and Alexios isn't. Nothing against Kassandra. She's cool but Alexios is just a bit better. If one is canon and the other isn't, what's the point of having the choice in the first place? I think Alexios is the better protagonist and Kassandra is the better Deimos. At least the encounter with her in Valhalla is optional and skippable. Hopefully it stays that way. But I'm not holding my breath.
To be honest I think Alexios is a great character and should have been the canon character than Kassandra. And that is as this good gentleman said about the olympics. Women where not allowed in the games, not even as a spectater. That was seen as a crime.
I’ve always wondered what cheat armor Alexios is wearing
Man Alexios is a better protagonist than Kassandra and kassie is a better Deimos than Alexios cuz hear what Alexios as Deimos was so hilarious stupid but on the other hand Kassandra as Deimos is so good as a villain but she isnt good for being the main character
Alexios >>
Alexios for the win!!
Ive thought this for years, and on the other hand i also thing kassandra fits deimos much better! The anger and frustration as well as the fact that the societal constraints of the time dont apply to her since shes in an underground organization makes her a much better character for deimos.
I always felt more of a connection to Alexios than Kassandra. I played both and I struggle to beat the game as her. There’s nothing wrong with Kassandra as a character, I just think Alexios is more relatable. Not because he’s a man, but his sarcasm and his free spirit and monotone responses are literally me.
I felt that they just added her to people please. However I never felt that they made a compelling female protagonist in AC. Making her canon was a mistake in my humble opinion, and it doesn’t feel natural.
I hope one day we get a compelling female protagonist that don’t feel out of place.
I thought I was alone 😭
I believe that people complain about the tonality of the voice, not the professionality of the actor
Alexios reminded me of ezio
Kassandra makes a great deimos
I agree with you 💯 👍 👌 👏 😁
When i got the ps5 the store gave me random ps plus games one of them was this game so that was my first ac ever then i went to ac 2 cuz many people said it was the best but.. it wasn't what i expected 😂
Alexios really shines as the main hero he's got a strong vibe and his story grabs you. He's all over the ads, too, which makes him feel like the real deal. Kassandra, on the other hand, seems perfect for the bad guy role, she's got that edge. It really looks like Ubisoft threw her in at the last second as the canonical main due to some hidden agenda. After playing as both, I've gotta say, Alexios is my go-to lead character. He's the heart of the story for me.
No, it's a bit odd, because evidence suggests that they always planned to make her the main character, but just threw the male protagonist ad stuff in because they were scared they'd have less attention for a female protagonist. Because before the game even came out, they already had the novelization ready.
There's also the fact that in the behind the scenes or a personal interview with the voice actors they stated that they made Alexios more aggressive or bitter in his conversations than Kassandra. Basically, she'll have a kinder demeanor to characters compared to Alexios.
@@maxm.m.7219Ok, agreed. But Alexios overall still feels like a better protagonist. And being scared of how gamers would react to a female protagonist is really not an excuse, Gamers will like a game irrespective of the character as long as the performance and writing match the scenario and narrative. if Ubisoft was thinking that. Misleading your gamers in the ad campaign is not a good way to go about it. If you really wish to make a game you tell the story you want to tell not someone else. Giving a choice which would divide who is the main is not the right way. They can't cater to everyone's need but they should be sure and confident about what they are making.
Alexios also looks like Mel Gibson
It genuinely feels like Alexios was supposed to be the protagonist. Kassandra as a villain is just so much more intimidating than Alexios as a villian. And Alexios as a protagonist not only makes more sense generally but acting wise he's so much better at playing the hero.
And also in the Olympic game quest women aren't allowed to see the game not even the mother as we see in the quest we see that so Kassandra playing in it is absurd😂
And the fact that elphenor dropped a male mask
A male wouldn't be allowed to join the daughters of artemis
@@Twilight24682that too that quest should have been taken out for Alexios
I try Kassandra couldn’t stand her so I stopped playing then I realized I could be Alexios instead now I can’t get enough of the game & I ❤ him
Idc what anyone says.. the fact that he's a MAN is also a factor and YES it does make it better.
It provides a better atmosphere
Alexis is the better face, Kassandra is the better heel
Alexios and male eivor are canon and I won’t hear anything else.