The Overlooked Assassin Who Nearly WIPED OUT The Templar Order
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- čas přidán 2. 04. 2024
- The Assassin's Creed is full of many deadly, legendary assassins who dealt crippling blows to the Templars throughout the centuries. However, one that I feel is heavily overlooked due to his limited screen presence, is from the French Brotherhood during the 14th century, where he appears at the beginning of Assassin's Creed Unity. His name is Thomas De Carneillon and his impact on the Brotherhood and thorough eradication of the Templar Order landed him legendary status for centuries to come...Let's put some respect on the name of this overlooked legend...
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I think a medieval setting in that time period where real templars were actually still a thing would be one of the best settings
In ac1 there are real templars
Literally just AC1 but in France
@@stefan5430 Yeah well I meant more like at the end of the real templar order where we would see how they've become what we know them for in most AC Games.
@@yoshitv9939 that is actually a good idea
This and maybe a dlc/expansion or saga title following the ending of the game where the player would be come one of the surviving templars that has to build up a new order thats more secretive
He really was underrated. I loved his outfit in unity. A lot of people unfortunately skipped on it because of the enigmas difficulty.
I don't blame them, it's not fun.
i recently did all those enigmas, i know why most folks just decided not to engage with 'em. tho to be fair, it wasn't as bad as anythiing that came after in the department of collectibles
@@azeroth2994 There are some good collectibles in later games but this was the one that set the new Ubi$oft standard of "more for less".
That’s what guides are for
I just watch yt for that one 🤡
Those riddles make me remember the riddler statue in batman game
think their biggest mistake was making Thomas appear at the beginning for a few minutes and then NEVER bring him up again despite what he was so close to achieving, that being so close to ending the entire order right there, something that very few others had got that far to begin with
they really should've just stayed with Thomas a little longer instead of using him as some scapegoat
Nah fr. They couldve did an ac3
What do you mean “never bring him up again”? There’s literally an entire side mission where you have to solve a bunch of riddles in order to earn his uniform.
@@Corey_Tenderson And this adds what?
@@LucasFelipe-yl2qc what do you mean “what does it add”? He said they never bring him up again, which is false.
@@Corey_Tenderson Yeah, but in lore game, something that adds more depth for him. Neither the enigmas say something about him, unlikely the codexes of Altaïr or something like that.
Probably one of the coolest looking assassins, sad that he’s forgettable even if there was an entry
It'd be nice if they made a game about him.
Or at least a novel or a comic book line. @rubenvesikuru639
It's never too late for Ubisoft to make sequels to the AC games that came after AC3, people really want to see Connor, Arno, shay, Jacob and Evie again, would love for them to revisit the old games.
I want Unity 2...
I think the entire ac fan base wants more sequels of games than some more lame rpgs with shitty combat mechanics
@@jimmymurphy898 We all want a unity 2 lol
@@lolkillermoon The OG fanbase wants games in the old style, we miss the well written stories and all the secrets, the thing I miss most was the lore. We all miss Desmond Miles, he was taken away way too soon.
@@lolkillermoonyea right we want rpg's with viking and Spartans those games are so much better you just have to git good😂 assassin's are anybody and everyone not just dudes in white robes 😂
One of my biggest frustrations in Unity was:
1) the Thomas de carneillon “armor” is just an outfit
2) that they didn’t include really anything from his life in the story with the exception of foreshadowing that there would be another sage that followed de Molay
Yeah you healh will stay the same in not like altair amor that ezio healh is more long!
The game should have been about him. Set within France in the high middle ages
Same thats what i thought
Man Ubisoft really knows how to drop the ball.
If you mean should have been a different game, then yeah. Unity had a great story, there’s no reason we couldn’t have both.
Ubisoft has to do something, make him the darker and brutal version of Altair.
so just altair from beginning of the first game?
Reincarnated Altaïr became menace to Templar again and is immortalized again
Altair is already brutal and dark at the beginning
3:01 If Ubisoft actually turned this into a TRUE AC Game, they MIGHT gain some respect & love from the OG's back. Seeing Thomas work with Marco Polo the way Ezio did with Leonardo WHILST also working with Ezio's great-grandfather. . . I mean that's just SCREAMING to get it's own game.
That is true, I wish Ubisoft can make this game happen.
Ubisoft is too far gone. Don't expect any good games any time soon
Insted we have romeo assassin and templar juliet
Dawg a black Altair fit was all it took to let me know he's like that
I love his robes, I actually love black robes, they fit assassins so well, hope we'll se more cool assassins in black robes
I agree. Im a fan of darker color schemes in general but ive always felt that black or even darker gray shades would fit better with assasins and their whole stealth dynamic. Not only would they blend in with the crowd they'd blend with the night as well should they need to and plus it's just beyond badass. Hell in games where you can wear black i tend to. I wear the black outfit in AC3, the Dark Assassin outfit in Rogue, that weird but cool black cloak Edward can get in AC4, Altair's armor in AC2, etc.
@@zerophantomyt433most of the times they're out in day. I also think the reason was to blend in with priests in ac1 then that just became the staple. They should do a game and have you choose your robes color like in unity but have unrestricted color acess and you woulnt have to pay for them
A lot of the Helix missions at the very beginning of Unity are so interesting. I wish we could explore them similar to 'The Tragedy of Jacques de Molay'
ay it's you!
May the father of understanding guide us
Finally somebody covered Thomas de Carneillon's legacy in the Brotherhood. The dude paved the way to the whole Brotherhood of Assassin to establish a fighting force against the Templar Order across Europe. Even shared stories with the Auditore Family's legacy as well and yet, he only showed up once in his peak in Unity. Such an interesting story to follow but probably one that we will never see to be told since the series has gone way off its plot now.
I'm happy you're discussing how underrated Thomas de Carneillon is compared to Altair and Ezio. While many assassins aim to stop the Templar Order and restore peace, Thomas took a more extreme approach by wanting to eliminate everyone in the Order.
I never thought about it like that
thank you soooo much brooo, I'm so happy to see someone else also loves the deeper pushed back characters, and this guy deserves soooo much credit for what he did for the brotherhood
i like them too but sometimes they just don’t really fit the aesthetic or theme of the setting of some games. Idk if that’s just a me thing but it throws me off and i go straight back to lore accurate outfits 😭
That intro really shouldve been its own game. Literally one of the biggest events in templar history. Also, imagine the drip, both assassin and templar, that intro already had fire fits
Ugghhh I want a Unity 2. Unity is easily my favorite game in the whole series and actually did have a good story in my opinion. It would have been even better if they made a direct sequel that perhaps had flashbacks to Thomas before Unity. It'll never happen but one can dream (sigh).
Unity has the best Parkour but not the best game of all because it had a rushed storyline .
I just want to play as the opening Templar in Unity. Imagine playing as someone who starts as a seemingly noble knight only to then be hunted by everyone thanks to this black clad assassin. It could be really cool.
He has my favourite robes in the franchise however I never hear anyone talk about them, definitely an underrated character and outfit
I agree with you 100%. My fave robes too, and it would be hella cool to see a spinoff game playing as him, perhaps on Unitys engine?
@@TempiiUmbrahe could be like a dlc character like Adewale in freedom cry
@@AlaricLovell I'd love that honestly!
I think someday in the future Ubisoft should Thomas de Carneillon his own assassins creed game it would be cool and interesting to play as Thomas de Carneillon
this would be an amazing setting for a future game. Thomas was fking epic, and i after playing unity i always thought that first mission was so cool. it’s great to know more about him now, the game would be amazing for actual lore
absolute stud. great video. finally shedding light on this assassin
He would make a great Character to play in a medieval game, also little fun fact at the end of the prologue he stabs you with a hidden blade on his right wrist indicating that he actually had two blades like Ezio or Edward
Bruh I had no clue he did that much thanks so much for showing the depth of him as a character
Honestly having a game about the fall of the templars back in the day would be amazing, like more than likely its the last mission for the game that leads to unity give or take an epilogue or so for a little more info but leading up to that point. Would def be a hardcore version since templars are literally at the peak of their power.
Wow, never knew all this, now i definitely want a game with this assassin.
Also, hope you're planning on making longer form videos, like an essay on ACIII since you love it so much.
Keep up the great work
A game with him would be cool since, we can see his life when he becomes an assassin and when he works with Ezio's great grand father.
Wouldn’t it be Ezios great grandson as Ezio was born in late 14,00s so his grandfather would be like 13,00s if I’m correct lol
I freaking loved that opening. I actually didn't know he had a name but I loved his outfit and it's easy to see how dope he is
Love your video and keep up the great work. You are awesome, and can you do who the best side characters if you haven't
Do Duncan walpol next😂(poor Guy)
He was rogue already wasn't he
@@MK12275 yeah but this more of a joke . That why the smiling face
We need a game about this guy, seriously. He's such a cool character. Not only would it bring us back to the Medieval era it would be a good story line.
hey bud u made a small mistake by saying he looks like arno's "descendant"
Also great vid covering about this forgotten assassin
He also said Ezios great grandfather but it’d have to be great grandson as Ezio was born in late 14,00s
@@JohnMarston26 3:02. Listen again and realize how what you said was wrong in the same vein as the narrator.
I might go more in depth with this another time but what I love most about AC is the legacies. It's so amazing how a large amount of people have an impact on the overarching story one way or another whether it be big or large.
It's funny you upload this a few days after i restarted a Unity playthrough. It only occurred to me on this 4th or 5th playthrough ive done just how significant this assassin was. It's the first time i've replayed the game since playing Valhalla and when you realise just how strong the Templar Order would become across the world between the events of Valhalla and Unity's intro. I too came to the same conclusion that this Assassin and the French Brotherhood he was a part of were probably the most significant part of Assassin history that literally changed the world. In future games set after the events of Unity, they really should prop up those Assassins responsible for almost wiping the Templars off the face of the planet and forcing remnants into hiding.
Bro the opening of unity is more interesting than the rest of the game
I really hope we could get a game about Thomas since he's basically Altair in black and red but knowing Ubisoft he's gonna have powers
They'll make him the second coming of christ and let him fly while spinning blades protect him from harm or some dumb shit like that
@@zerophantomyt433 knowing Ubisoft they are
@@zerophantomyt433 So uhh... Noctis from FFXV?
I loved is outfit. It just sent chills🥶
I’ve loved this guy since I first played Unity.
Yet again, spot on the money! I loved his side story, and his armor is my favourite also! I could enjoy a game on it's own. What an entry it was to get into Unity!
Yessss finally someone did a video on Thomas
Man was so badass, they built a whole vault to hold his fit.
“He even had drip!” That is such an understatement he has the best looking robes ever!
That scene is imprinted in my mind. One of the coolest moments in AC. I liked the dark medieval aspect of it. It would be a nice prequel concept to Unity.
I've always loved the robes this guy had, the brown version of the Altair robes.
This is still my favorite, most intriguing intro, and they've done nothing with it since. In general I'd personally love another large city Assassins Creed with baked lighting that pushed the visuals, presentation, and parkour like Unity did.
Honestly, I want a game where you play as the Templars. The closest we actually got to it was AC: Rogue which, in my opinion, was a breath of fresh air into the franchise. Actually getting an inner look into the workings of the Templar Order through the eyes of one of it's own members throughout the game, I think, if done right, could be a fantastic spin on things.
I haven't played Unity since it came out, and I don't even remember this guy. That being said, I think it would be awesome to see a game with him as the main protagonist. He sounds like he was far more impressive that some of the protagonists we've had since Unity.
A game with this guy would be a good way to go back to the roots
I think a game set during his time would be amazing,
Like maybe he could be an apprentice who started his career as an assassin at the same time as the mc, and you would actually be close to him and, as a result, have some kind of competition with him.
That really would be great.
He was a true assassin. Made a huge impact, and yet no one no one knows his name
Crazy we had such a legendary character
With such little screen time
Having some form of connection to him within Project Hexe would be cool.
They could literally make a saga with this guy as the protagonist.
Idk why, but I love this video.
he's the Black Air Force 1 version of Altair.
I played Unity for the first time when I was 12 years old and I remember going through a phase where I based my whole personality around this guy so I acted all mysterious and cool lol
The fact that we or anyone in game knows much about him, already proves that he was one of the greatest assasins.
Yes, I would definitely play that game
Gotta say after altair his robes is beyond good
Like a black version of altair (good for night missions) but also have some paddings for extra armor and still kept the look of the robes of the creed and have to say some pattern on his robes just add more to the drip
We need a full game of him.
I’m my opinion I wish there was a game about him set in this time, I would love to play as him in his own game
I think a game about him would be really fun and cool
Superb 💙⚔️
It would have been cool to play as Thomas in different points of his life through sections that would be unlocked in Unity, like with the different regions and time periods we went through as we progressed through Unity's story.
Remember, Domenico Auditore said that the assassins oppose *rulers*, not just templars. No rulers, no masters. A lot of people seem to forget this and think the assassin's *only* oppose the templars, which is blatantly false.
Thomas robe is my fav robe OAT.
This Assassin needs his own game
They NEED to make a game about this guy
If he ever does get a game about him,i hope itll be one of if not the best ac game here is
Someday we will probably get a game where we play as him.
"Can you believe it? He was a banker.."
"Really? His finances looked like shit."
They should have given us more time with this character, could've served as a link to the revolution era we play in, in Unity
The most underrated and underdeveloped character of all time for who he was and what he did.
Interesting that the assassins back during the era of Altair reflected the area they were based in….
i want more templar games since shay was really fun going against the assassins it was definitely one of the least known of the games
I've always wanted him to have his own game
I almost forgot about him, they should add his outfit to ac mirage it’s basically a more colorful version of Altairs outfit love it
Yes, a game with him set in medieval Europe would be an ideal setting for a game.
he spoke fire i would love to see this game.
I wish we can have a game about Thomas and explore more
We should get a game based on him it would be nice to revisit the medieval era and play as him
Thomas de carnellion needs his own AC game tbh
He also has a nearly identical rope to altiair
we need a Thomas de carneillon game in medieval france leading to the point he attacks the Temple but on the assassin's side. and post story missions where we get to see more parts of europe as he is hunting the templars
Dude I would love this
Thomas aka Altair black was incredible 😊
I think a game featuring Thomas would have be the dark Assassins Creed game that Assassins Creed Rogue wanted to be.
We need a game on him. Like seriously! That would be bad ass.
His backstory should be whilst he was a banker he was ambushed by a knight errant (which is a rouge knight) and then he is saved by an assassin Thomas helps in the battle the assassin tells Thomas he was going to cash in a check for money but then had to help after this Thomas asks him who he is the assassin introduces himself and then the assassin tells him about the creed and then Thomas joins as he had shown his worthiness and after some training earns his hidden blade
Btw the templars had invented the earliest known banking and would write checks to merchants trying to travel so and when they reached their destination they would go to a Templar bank thing and then would receive the amount given on the piece of paper
Thomas should most definitely have his own game.
We need a game on him!
They need to make a game about him, know that would bring back the original series.
Not an RPG AC lover but, to think of it. Kassandra was alive when Thomas De Carneillon did this, and i would like to play as him in medieval setting AC game. And that outfit is soo good that modders always Modding it to newer games.
I was just Showing my boy , this mission - he never experienced an assassins creed , so when he was playing as the Templar he was impressed by this Hooded dude when he hopped out the haystack , after you jump out the castle in the beginning.
He was like “ Is He an ASSASSIN?!”
For him Thomas is his first assasin aside from Arno .
I really hope that Ubisoft makes a game on him i really enjoyed his outfit even though it is like Altair outfit
The High Middle Ages is one of the greatest time periods for an Assassin's Creed title in my opinion, and the number of historical figures and events that would take place shortly after the downfall of the Templars, would have been perfect to explore in a full-fledged game.
I've imagined that Ubisoft could make a full game out of this, if not a Trilogy like they did with Ezio, and given ( from what I've seen at least ) how the High Middle Ages is a time period many fans of the franchise want to see, it has a great deal of potential, especially with the inclusion of historical characters, like King Philip IV, who was known for his tyrannical rule, and being honest, seems to be the complete opposite of what the Assassin Brotherhood stands for, as well as Marco Polo as you mentioned, and Domenico Auditore, as he was the founder of the Auditore family.
Another thought could have been playing in the High Middle Ages, after the Death of Jacque de Molay, most notably in Portugal, from the Templar Perspective... ( Because while I did like Rogue, I thought it did not perfect the concept of following the Templar ideology )
...as while the remnants of the Templars were hunted down and eradicated across Europe, King Denis of Portugal, had refused any words from Philip regarding the Templars, and notably welcomed them to Portugal and reformed them as the Military Order of Christ, which does still exist today, but any thoughts of them still being a continuation of the Templar Order, is unlikely, but how this order of chivalry came to be, and how the Templars would slowly begin their recovery by taking refuge in Portugal, could also be worth exploring.
I would buy 1000 copies in 14th medieval where ever that would be awesome
Dude is right up there with Connor for who damaged the templars the worst in their respective eras
i like how his robes are a black version pf altairs. it looks clean
I hate how so many people praise his outfit when it's literally just a lazy recolor of Altair.
No shit! I did not notice!😂😂 that why it praised you dumbass thats the point to tribut altair