In Defense of Assassins Creed Odyssey
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I want to give you a different perspective on this assassins creed odyssey review, critique, analysis, defence, whatever you want to call it. All the thoughts in this video are purely my opinion so if you disagree that's ok. I'm open to having discussions with you guys as long as it stays civil. I hope you guys enjoy this video and thanks so much for 19K subscribers. It's wild.
The following is a brief summary of the game.
Assassin's Creed: Odyssey is the eleventh main installment in the Assassin's Creed series developed by Ubisoft. The game was primarily developed by Ubisoft Québec, which had previously worked on Assassin's Creed: Syndicate. The concept for the game emerged in 2015, as the team was wrapping up development on Syndicate. In the shift to an RPG-esque game, inspiration was taken from titles such as The Witcher 3, Fallout, and The Elder Scrolls, in regards to the idea of player choice. The development team engaged in communication with the team behind Assassin's Creed: Origins; it was decided to quote: "push [the series] forward" with the introduction of RPG elements. The setting of ancient Greece was chosen as it was one of the most requested settings from the fanbase.
Odyssey uses a lot of the same graphics technology as Origins. Far more colour was used in the game; the designers tried to tap into the notion that the ancient Greeks believed that their land was built by the gods, thus the use of vibrant colours. There was pushback against the "ordinary" depictions of ancient Greece, which lean on it being an arid place with an emphasis on white and gold. The end result is intended to be a middle-ground between historical accuracy and vibrancy.
The game's genetic memory story is set in 431 BCE, recounting the secret history of the Peloponnesian War, fought between the city-states of ancient Greece. The protagonist is a mercenary named either Alexios or Kassandra who can choose to fight for either Athens and the Delian League or Sparta and the Peloponnesian League, as well as against the Cult of Kosmos. The modern-day segments will again follow Layla Hassan, who was first introduced in Assassin's Creed Origins, and her story will touch on the Isu.
Odyssey uses a lot of the gameplay and interface mechanics of Origins, including the radial compass, and the return of a bird that can survey the landscape, spot treasure, and highlight and harass enemies.
The game features RPG elements, including dialogue options, branching quests, multiple possible endings, romance options, and the ability to select between a male or female protagonist. Reportedly, the game is a "full RPG," and will push the franchise into this genre. Both Alexios and Kassandra follow the same story. Romance options remain the same regardless of the character chosen. Interactions with NPCs can have consequences, either short or long term, in regards to the story. Choices are said to "add up." Relationships with NPCs don't always change, and there is no binary divide in regards to interaction-lying to an NPC isn't necessarily a "bad" choice, and vice versa. By extension, there is no "right" way to play the game in regards to character choice.
Gear can be selected, and is classified by rarity. Each piece of gear can be enhanced with engravings. Players also have access to a skill tree, and can follow a 'branch' to better suit their playstyle. Compared to Origins, the skill tree is more clear cut in Odyssey, and players can unlock high tier versions of pre-existing skills. In combat, the hitbox system for enemies is used again.
The game world has been described as the "biggest one yet" for the franchise; specifically, the game map is 100 square miles, split evenly between land and sea. Environments range from forests to mountains, to beaches. "Legendary animals" can be hunted on land. The world is divided into the number of zones divided by level (similar to an MMO), but level scaling features to a point. For instance, if a player starts at a level 2 zone, then returns after having reached level 20, the enemies there will be scaled up to be 2-3 below the player's character.
The Sparta-Athens divide is represented in-game with a red or blue border along each region to indicate which of the city-states has control. 28 city-states feature in the game, each of which is allied with either Sparta or Athens. Each city-state has a "national power" level. If one city-state leader is weakened (e.g. by assassinating their leader), other faction leaders will invade their state. If the invading army is defeated, the nation's power is reset. The army will invade regardless of the player's actions, but they can involve themselves in the battle. - Hry
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Comments: "No you're wrong, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
@Eriko. Oy No
@Eriko. Oy bruh
I'm reading a lot of people saying he was wrong about accepting the drop in realism, but honestly, these games make me feel so damn powerful, that I see any supernatural elements as an INCREASE in immersion. I've already made up my mind that I'm some sort of demigod, so it's refreshing to see the game make it look that way, too. Damn right I'm animated like a weightless wraith superhero and ride a flaming horse, my character is so busted that I'd be disappointed at anything to the contrary.
@Eriko. Oy
Maybe. Honestly, since Brotherhood, I've never felt...human. Watch Dogs and similar franchises ground your actions in limitations that keep you from feeling like an immortal killing machine, but AC kinda dropped that illusion after 2 and just decided to make you some deity in human clothing. It felt good, sure, but not quite lining up with the actual portrayal, in comparison to the gameplay elements themselves. This game looks and feels like fantasy, and frankly, I think I prefer it that way. I do long for some happy medium game where I can feel like a true hunter of men, seeking and stalking, with all the talents and limits of a mortal man, but I'm fine with playing a game other than that ideal as long as it accepts what it is. And Odyssey feels like it accepts what it is.
Unity fanboy....
Just trust me,if name of this game was only "Odyssey" nobody would complain.
Exactly.
"It's not Assassin's creed" is a stupid thing to say.
You sneak around, you assassinate, kill templars. Good enough for me
Agreed
Yup
Not necessarily true. The heavily forced microtransactions are just not acceptable. The choices have virtually no impact on the overall story and the fact that impaling someone is not an insta-kill is just confusing. However the world is phenomenal.
@@moosejuice4231 Microtransactions are not heavily forced. You don't even notice them when you play. The game is long but completely fine without spending a single cent. Everything you get from the store, you can likely get from the oricalchum store (except cosmetics)
Choices do have an impact. Some people live or die based on your choices and the ending is affected.
Although, it is true that most choices only affect particular quests
Nobody ever talks about how the more cultists you kill the more bloody masks appear on the floor of the loading screen. It's a very small detail but it makes a big difference in my opinion and gives you a feeling of satisfaction.
I've had 90 hours in this game since i got it 3 weeks ago and never fucking noticed
@@dylanross7684 you must not be that observant then
wow!! that alone gave you satisfaction?? lmao so sad.. but yeah, you're right.. that's a technological breakthrough right there, putting in more blood on THE loading screen, compared to the growing horn in MGSV as a reflection of of your choice or the growing moustache in Witcher 3 waay back in 2015.. but this 2020 more blood on the Loading Screen is a monumental achievement!!
I finished main story I don't want to play anymore
240 hours without noticing this now... :0
Meanwhile, I'm an Ancient Greek history nerd who was super hyped for this and reread the Illiad and Odyssey and a bunch of Greek Myths and history in the weeks before launch. And when it did come out, I played it to death and loved every second of it. Odyssey is my favourite AC game, and it's not even close.
100%
Odyssey and Valhalla are my top two for the same reason, two of my favorite time periods with egypt being the third, needless to say I love the newest trilogy
This one AC game is really where we got our moneys worth in terms of historical recreation. Heck, historians don't even agree on what a street looked like it was so long ago. This game is pure heaven. The update from 2021 also fixed the inaudible npc speech finally. You are literally walking in Ancient Greece. If you are on PC definitely play it with the one shot kill using Fling. It prevents the tedious grind. My favorite game by far, 490 hours.
I didn't listen to the hate and really really love this game.
@@ILikeTrains324 same
I don’t care if the game bad or not. As long as I’m having fun it’s a good game for me :)
🤝
Yes.
Same here
If you have fun that's the main thing that matters
Should I get this or Valhalla I’m doing tons of research bc both look fun
A true cultured and a gentle man
A lot of people miss this, but you can make your horse go fast in cities and it's hilarious.
While traveling to your destination, hold the auto travel button. Then call your eagle and your horse will auto follow its path while giving you a nice view. if you end up going through a town or city, the slow down script doesn't activate and you mow down citizens happily to your destination! :) With a great view as said. If you want to slow down, the horse will stop and wait for the eagle as well
Bro wtf I wasn't aware of this
I def gotta try this now
Lmao
Wish I knew this at the start lol
After 130hours in game, I find this out just now
Ac fans when the game changes: **angry**
Ac fans when the game doesnt change: **angry**
Ac fans when the character changes: **angry**
Ac fans when the character doesnt change: **angry**
Ac fans when they update anything: **angry**
Ac fans when they dont update anything: **angry**
Ac fans when ezio get 20 more games all set in italy with the same ps3 engine and graphics: **happy**
Nah we liked even origins, odyssey is just terrible.
@@jayeezus the only thing that makes odyssey terrible is the fact it's not a classic ac game, aside from that it's a really good game about Spartans and Greeks, just not templars and assassins
@@w_jc3395 story sucks, combat sucks, no stealth , worst voice actors, worst face animations, demi-God bulshit......yeah it's. GREAT GAME 😂😂
@@jayeezus story is fairly good, family stuff was drawn but hunting the cult was fun at least. Combat wasnt bad, though all enemies were tanks. Face animations were crap, but I think the voice acting wasnt as bad as people say, it's the greek accent that makes it confusing to most english speakers. Much like why many french people think all english are bad actors. But since your talking about actual game, and not ac game standards, AC 1 is also a terrible game. With stiff acting, bad character models and graphics, and audio that sounded like it's been recorded by a toaster.
@@w_jc3395 ac1 was made in 2007 , odyssey sucks ...it was made in 2018. I guess you're the only one saying the story is good. The story is good for 24 hours of gameplay and then it goes to grinding and shit. Alexios sounds like a caveman who has learnt to talk and kassandra is annoying as fuck. It's not the accent, it's the actors. They have no expression.
14:45 "I would just wing it and aim for the bushes"
*There goes my hero, watch him as he goes*
There wasn't even an awning in that direction
That part made me laugh cause I was doing the exact same thing until I also found out there is no fall damage
Before I got odyssey I thought I was gonna hate it. About an hour into playing it I fell in love with it. It's one of my favorite games.
I can't believe that an Assassin's Creed game is one of my favourites because I hate the others I have played although I haven't tried Origins or Valhalla which I gather are similar to Odyssey.
@@B-A-L if you love Odyssey then OH BOY you'll love Origins
@@directdebit6078 Yeah, that'll be the next game I play once I finish Odyssey and once I've finished Origins then Valhalla should be reduced in price so I'll get that afterwards.
i still hate it.. and play it every other day thanks to the history and graphics. However the loading times, and the fact that UBISOFT takes control away during battles...every single time, makes the game frustratingly annoying... NEVER TAKE CONTROL FROM THE USER. !!!!
@@B-A-L I think of you love odyssey you’ll eventually have a much greater appreciation for the older assassins creed games
Fellow history majors unite in how much we love the Assassins Creed games
Look at that it’s riverdude!!
Riverdude Covers
>Calling *dyssey an Assassin’s Creed game.
I hate the recent games. There were no black lesbian mercenary warrior women in ancient Greece.
Fellow Templar Who cares there were no minotaurs either. The idea of a small % of the population deviating and succeeding at deviating is not so far fetched.
@@ZeroChaos76 Really? You must be blind not to see how minorities affect modern films, games and books. Take for example Pirates of the Caribbean 6 with "strong independent woman" replacing Johnny Depp.
i absolutely loved the game. played it through twice. about 100 hours each time. would totally do it again
Wasted a week of your life
@@makemecereal7426 I felt like wasted most of my time inthe first playthrough but the 2nd playthrough with new game plus is pretty good because I did not need to grind has much has the first playthrough.
@@makemecereal7426 are you a special boy? She just said she loved the game so how is that wasted time? Insecure brats like you that feel you opinion should be fact need to get over yourselves
@@aidan7646 I don't understand how that makes him insecure or a brat. Sure he's a dick but still. Doesn't make any sense.
@@makemecereal7426 if she loved her time playing it, it's not a waste of time for her
42:10 its probably because Kassandra's voice actress did a FANTASTIC job with her lines in both roles
Well her voice actress is Greek and Canadian so❤❤
She's so good. Give me another Kassandra game.
@@Jacob-df5hrwe are getting another cameo of her in Jade
@@deepflare1028yay!
@@ChonkedCat Oh and also she's one of characters you can play as in Nexus :)
"Anything after 70 hours would probably become stale"
Geralt: Now there's where you're wrong
I disagree. I ahve over 400 hours in Odyssey and only half that time in Witcher 3.
Because when in Odyssey the combat becomes boring... just switch your build. Try different abilities, a different gear set. Play hunter or assassin.
When Witcher becomes boring (and yes, it does at some point. don´t @ me. everything does after some point)... that´s it. you can´t really respec for a reasonable pricce. can´t switch your weapons, cause there are only swords if we are being honest.
There is basically no range combat and stealth doesn´t exist.
That´s just my opinion tho.
@@MisterK9739 a good point indeed. But me personally can find multiple unique builds that can change up how I play witcher and still not get bored by it. Maybe it's just that I'm a huge witcher fanboy
@@curdygorgeous1466 Don´t get me wrong, Witcher 3 is a masterpiece. And playing a full alchemy build is different from a sign build.
But in the end you still always use the same tools
@@MisterK9739 true. There are fist fights I guess, but that's not saying much.
@@MisterK9739 maybe because ac odessy have a better loot thats is the focus of odessy but in witcher they gave you much more content through narrative i guess you like diablo type games
At first, I was in a strange relationship with the game, but in the moment I forgot that it was an AC game, I started to love it.
Same
Assassin''s creed hasn't been assassin's creed in a long time. it's something else now
People seem to forget that odyssey is set FAR before the assassins and templars.
@@lihzzahrdspeed6631 I don't think they forget it, it's just that when your game has no assassins or templars, there's no reason to call it Assassin's Creed. They just shoved in some unnecessary AC lore and even more unnecessary modern day shit so they could slap a big name on it. It's an open world rpg set in ancient Greece, and a good one at that. But the fact that it pretends to be Assassin's Creed holds it back from being a great one.
@@EllaKarhu I mean in the dlc there is an assassin that we learn was hunting a secret order or something.
i do find it funny that they say that they found traces of DNA from two individuals on the spear, Alexios and Kassandra. But whoever you pick is the one who handles it the most, with the other sibling getting to hold it once. Thats not to mention all the bodies that spear has been through over the course of the game
You're totally the dude that proves a video on Instagram isn't real and ruins it for everyone lol. I never noticed it until now! XD
Hmm given the reveal of the lineage of the siblings maybe their machinery was specifically looking for DNA with Isu traces in it.
I feel like there should have been two separate stories. Since Kassandra is the cannon character. Picking here the story would be what it is. But if you pick Alexios they should have made it to where you play as Demos instead of the eagle bearer.
Plus Kassandra as demos was just horrible compared to Alexios as Demos.
i think its because kassandra and alexios were the last ones to touch the spear at the story ending any thing you do with it byeond that point isnt really canon and the modern day story dosent really count it
@@daniel-critic2728Yeah, I just assumed their blood was the most recent
Love everything about what you’ve said in this video. Odyssey was the first AC game I actually played and I was so blown away by it all because I had nothing to compare it to. Coming online and seeing how much everyone hated it was such a shock! As I’m going through the older games now I see why the critiques were made but I think the nostalgic piece of playing the older games truly blinds people to how good Odyssey can actually be. Great video!
Nope this game is terrible way too much gameplay
Takes you about 5000 hours to beat the campaign
@@deletedvideos. awww alright
@@deletedvideos. 5000 hours? My under 200 hour play through of the campaign and all DLC says otherwise 😏
@@xskyren_ri ok karen💀
I can hear Lazerzz screaming from behind...
@James Gratz check the user score review on Metacritic. Or play the game yourself without having unfounded arguments against others.
@@theotherbeatle707 yes but they were pointing out that Lazerzz has a largely differing opinion not whether the game was actually good.
@Xbox One Indeed I just was responding to @Martin Henebury comment as it is both argumentative and assumes that the original comment was hating were in actual fact I believe they were merely stating how LazerzZ has had a consistently critical opinion.
@Xbox One Pretty much all AC games sold over 10millions copy up to Unity so I fail to see how it sold well and most old fan are not impress by the route AC is going so again I fail to see how it is a success.
@@Boby9333
Because both Origins and Odyssey sold a lot more than Unity. Odyssey sold at least 15 million units because Origins broke past 10 million and Odyssey beat that by 150%. Valhalla is beating Odyssey by double! Unity is dead. Get the fuck over it. No one wants those trash ass old school AC games anymore.
One thing I quite enjoy about the cultists is that some of them exist in the open world just going about their lives and you can accidentally run into them . There have been a few times where I would get into a fight and a cultist would just start trying to beat the shit out of me out of nowhere and I found it hilarious
EDIT: Just got to the part where you address this in a video
I sunk a ship because it attacked me and got the cultist killed message and was like :)
This shit was straight fucking funny bc you’ll just be minding your own business, murdering randoms then you’ll get a notification saying you killed a cultist.
It would have been cool if after killing a cultist you got the normal ac confession
on my 3rd playthrough during the plague in Athens I was just walking, saw the assassinate button, clicked it, and killed a cultist sage
I was hunting a cultist, for some reason, athenians soldiers are hunting him down too and got him first. Never explained why, and the soldiers didnt attack me when I went closer to the carcass to "confirm kill". Kinda funny.
AI here is funny especially the chickens lol.
ik most people would disagree but odyssey is one of my favorite assassins creed games. ancient greece is one of my favorite settings and the ability to make yourself into basically a demigod with a shit ton of power was so much fun. its unrealistic but considering the world of greek mythological figures and their feats, i thought it was appropriate. the transmog system was a lot of fun to use and i hope they keep it for future installments. being able to change your entire style on the fly without sacrificing stats is an amazing change
This guy deserves more love he puts way more effort and passion in his vids than most other creators
Hehe have you ever heard of Pythagoras?
NAH its Triangle Man.
I agree unity has the best parkour by far.
Bet
Same
Disagree ezio games had best parkour u have freedom in jumping where ever u want u can wall eject, climb wall eject and do some great moves if u now how to do the parkour properly every one likes unity parkour because it’s flashy and fast but have a massive disadvantage in freedom
@@tyler_9114 I can see your point, maybe it is just flashy.
@@tyler_9114 Assassin's Creed Unity is great because you get more precise control over your movements. You choose whether to free run up or down which is much more smooth than just dropping in previous Assassin's Creed games. Also there is still wall eject I'm pretty sure
This game helped me survive 2021's early quarantine. I came upon it by accident at a friend's house on Xbox and then I went home and looked it up. Maybe it's because I had no history with other AC games, maybe because I'm Greek and I understood many things and loved the depiction, maybe because I played it in a really dark time of mine? Idk but I love it to death. I'm struggling not to play it again so soon (finished it twice) so I can come back later with nostlagia and fresh mind.
I love Origins and Odyssey, but I also love the older games as well. I did appreciate the change in design as the old stuff was just getting incredibly stale.
Agreed. They changed up the formula right when I was starting to get super bored, and I even skipped a few games (AC3, Rogue, and most of the off-shoots). I'm again bored of the new formula and hope the next game revamps the gameplay, though I'm worried it'll turn into a microtransaction-filled cash grab.
I think that the early Assassin's Creeds (1-3) had incredibile city storytelling and design with awesome cultural value (in addition Shaun comments on every historical character and building were so amusing) and were focused on the Creed and/or the things related to it.
The new trilogy really needed to be called "Assassin's Myth" or something, and 90% of the complaints would simply not exist.
@tiomes7493 idk alot of it is historically accurate tho except vallhalla but the mythology is just that mythology
@@vanickgm6294 no one it's saying they are inaccurate. It's the flavor, the "how" you tell things, that show that there are missing some things.
Furthermore the Mythology power fantasy (previously it was mainly a grounded Assassin "fantasy" with some marginal sci-fi elements, just to keep plot more modern and relatable) is a big point in new RPG ACs. So they probably should be considered mythologic games and called differently from the old ones.
@@brett84cAC 3 is awesome. I would recommend you to play.
I just like Spartan kicking people into walls and off cliffs.
I like Spartan kicking people in to the water off ships
Gotta admit I liked this game only cuz of this the cultists system and a lil side quests sparta kick was cool
Spartan kick is the best thing
i like kicking people with my legs
@@sebastianclaudio1715 and you always gotta yell "yeet!" At least I do.
Honestly I don’t like that you can’t stealthy kill someone if they’re higher lvl than you. That breaks the stealth and the reason to be stealthy. But that’s for me. I usually play stealth characters.
You can always upgrade your spear and critical assassination to make this happen. The assassination button usually just needs to be held down, no problem.
me too bro, stealth is the reason I play AC games!
Put on gear that helps your stealth, it's called assassin gear, you can one shot the vast majority of enemies when you do thag
@James Gratz that's not true. Assassin's Creed games gives you plenty of options like Hitman if you want to do stealth or combat. Also the old combat does actually take skill because there is no one-hit-kill level strategy that is not available at the start and even Assassin's Creed one because you have a variety of Moves like grab attack or counter you're not stuck to one option under a facade of different names like Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
Just go levels above you'll feel like an assassin in no time plus the critical upgrades when assassinating
I'm at Fate of Atlantis now. I gave up on clearing out every location in Greece because it just got so repetitive. But now I'm at Elysium and clearing out marble maiden statues, and just admiring the sights. It is absolutely gorgeous.
This is definitely one of my favorite RPGs. But there is just way too much stuff.
Valhalla is even bigger and you kinda have to do everything to get the ending
I agree, you have to accept that a large portion of the side content is crap, and you have to be selective about how to spend your time, to keep the game interesting.
I cleared out the whole map when I first played it in 2018 and now I'm replaying it only for the main story and side quests. It feels much more enjoyable when you know you've done everything this game has to offer and now you can just focus on the more important stuff.
i spent ~170 hours in Odyssey and i loved every minute of it. it took everything i loved about origins and expanded on it. the combat and abilities were a lot of fun to use and it was a blast to explore one of my favorite settings of an assassins creed game. im a sucker for greek mythology so to experience it all in a new way was so refreshing. i loved being able to take on some of the great mythical beasts ive read about in stories. granted, the game does suffer in some aspects. i always disliked when i had to wait like 10 seconds to start speaking to a radiant quest giver, just to skip all the dialogue and take the quest. also sometimes parkouring on walls when im trying to just run away has been in the series forever and it never ceases to annoy me. ik this game is quite polarizing but i wanted to give my thoughts
8:11 i gotta admit, just hearing Kassandra say that after that dude's skirt flips up make the video worth watching!
bruh XD
7:30 "the weapons all feel like they really do some damage"
Gonna strongly disagree there. The finishing moves sure, but hacking someone with 18 sword cuts or a mercenary taking over 20 hits from a two handed hammer with minimal flinching makes the weapon attacks floaty and unsatisfying. Ubisoft even acknowledged that and said Valhalla would have better, more brutal, and more impactful melee.
@Matt Mercer's Stunt Double that's mad weird that you say that because the dude legit just said he wasn't trying to avoid that. You can voice your opinions, but making shit personal for no reason with no proof makes no sense and only makes ya look like an asshat.
Eh, yeah I can get behind that. No matter what just cause a big dude has more muscle doesn't mean he's gonna ignore a fucking sword going through him. Besides that though, I like that the combat. It's fluid and nice, dodging, parrying. If they just weren't as spongey I'd give it a ten outta ten.
@@SoiBoySam Fr Valhalla’s combat fells so good even In decently higher power level areas it really only talks 3-7 attacks
1000% agreed
I think they don't do much damage like that good too, however, the problem with odyssey is, after 95 hours to complete all storylines and all three chapters, I feel sick playing it again. Combat doesn't feel good anymore. Sure after 80 hours stuff gets boring, but I played CSGO for about 200 hours and I never get tired of the mechanics. Odyssey just doesn't do that. I replayed the first ac like so much I lost track of how many times I lost track of it. Odyssey doesn't have that feeling. Stealth is so boring, no special buildings or set pieces like hitman. It's just three shallow things strung along together.
For me, the boss fights were so much fun. So personally I tried to take on all cultists etc. while several levels too low to turn every combat encounter into a boss fight and it made it such a good experience.
Can I ask , how many levels above did you try and fight ? If they’re like 4 levels higher it’s super hard for me to kill them, at least n origins it did , but I’m new to odyssey and only a level 20
After pouring nearly 1000 hours into Skyrim over the last decade, I was finally done with it.
I'd done every build, every quest, every detail of that game countless times, and modded it to hell and back over and over, and drew every bit of love i could out of that game before I simply had to move on because there was nothing left.
And I spent 2 years with void in my gaming heart hoping to find something to replace it.
Odyssey is my new Skyrim, and I've loved it since the day I picked it up.
Played ODYSSEY 3000h😂😂😂...
I STILL like origins better
I'm excited for Valhalla
same
ubisoft montreal never dissapoints
@webbsy cakes 100% agreed
I just wished they hadn't named the main character Eivor because that's a girl name. Now I won't be able to take him seriously.
Vetarlit Torf
Maybe play as the girl version then? I don’t know.
I honestly thought the choice making could still make sense in-game. The way I considered it was that the character within the memory was faced with a decision and when we as the player made the decision, that was the decision that Layla relived as a memory. The animus wasn't rendering a decision that Layla had to make and canonically, there was no multiple endings. Whatever decision you made was the sole memory rendered. It was like we were in the character's head making the decision.
That doesn't make any sense how does Layla relive a memory if said choice isn't canon does the animus just make up a memory in according to her choice which btw goes against the definition of a memory
@@aaronziskovsky4612 that goes against what a memory is it's set in stone and in all honesty I don't mind that the developers put it in since it's pretty clear this was the game they were passionate to make and it's better that they make a game they want then just checking off boxes on the assassins creed game list I just wish people would accept how much it defies what the series is and not try to justify it
@@Oatlis Rhe game wasn't even supposed to be a true ac game at first. The first promotional artorks referred to it as Odyssey an assassin's creed adventure / story. But of course labeling it as the new main ac game would make way more profit. They should've set it up as a spin off were the animus would be used as gaming device. You would relive an altered version of Cassandra / Alexios life which would explain so many things lile godlike powers (funnier) or choices (let the in game player make his own story). If we wanted to make the present day story line a bit deeper we could say that the adn is so old that most of the memory is damaged and untrustworthy. So abstergo would release it as a video game to be able to access thousands of different takes on the story in the hope that domeone ould be able to uncover the secrets of cassandra / alexios
I’m just gonna throw this out there the choices make some sense cause if you remember the retransmissions from origins, the last one ( isu armor) said that Layla’s animus was different implying that hers can do thinks that no other animus can this explains the choices
@@personunknown4573 Yeah, if I remember correctly AC Valhalla further explains this. Basically Layla's Animus is an Animus with the ability to simulate and add in things, that are not part of the memory. It also makes sense, because looking at older AC games, some memories were locked because of errors or bad DNA or something. And now the new and improved animus can fill such memory holes with generated and simulated content. And because of the ISU blood/memories/DNA of the protagonist, the animus can create really crazy stuff in a reality bending kind of way, like a communication bridge from the past to the present etc.
I’m just disappointed with the story and the damage sponges that enemies are.
Lower your difficulty and the enemies will not be damage sponges.
@@norma8686 he can't play the game, that's why he doesn't like it
If you actually use the build system you'll find the enemies aren't tough at all even on nightmare. I recommend checking out T7 PDM on CZcams je has some insane builds out there.
@@jillestjoelker1607 yea that’s a viable option for sure but it’s a bit sad that the game lw forces you to invest deeply into the grind. While I enjoy grinding, I don’t think anyone should be forced to farm for perfect gear and things that boost critical just to do good damage.
@@SoulRedness you’re a fucking moron
The only thing that really dissapointed me was the abruptness of the ending, personally I got quite invested in the story and when I got to the top of the mountain with the mom and I saw deimos i was like "wait... Thats it?"
Oh yeah, parrying was an option...
Honestly I forgot about it until I saw a loading tip near the end of the main story.
@benji45645 same I just doge enemy attack and barely ever used the parry
@@t.m.o2897 same
Concerning the ending: I really hate how the ending of the main story has literally no impact on the DLCs, specifically the Legacy Of The First Blade.
*Spoilers incoming*
Kassandra/Alexios acts like they have no family or home during the events of the DLC no matter what your ending was, and then goes on and starts a family with Darius's son/daughter all while pretending her mother, brother, step-brother, and step-father don't exist.
The DLCs aren't necessarily meant to take place after the end of the family/cult of kosmos questlines only the end of the Atlantis questline so they have to mess around with it to avoid spoilers
That makes more sense, thanks
@@stinkoshatter-shield2096 I understand your reasoning, but it still wouldn't make sense narratively for the DLC to take place at the same time as the main story, why would the protagonist abandon the search for their mother/sibling so they can go off and spend a year starting a new family.
But then again, these games never tried to make much sense in terms of the storyline so it doesn't matter anyway.
Who cares about The old family. Honestly I wish there was a option to kill them all. Oh also to add to your comment, I don’t believe in this “canon” story and shot but maybe it took place after the Odysseus bad ending
I think they wrote it that way because there's literally an ending in the base game where your entire family can die. While it would've been cooler if they incorporated the family members who survived the story into the DLC I can see this was the much easier route.
I first played Odyssey back in 2018 when it was released and I absolutely loved every second of it. I'm a huge Greek mythology lover since elementary school and this game was my dreams come true. All these caverns, tombs and fortresses gave me a lot of fun to explore or to clear out. I loved this game so much that I did it on 100%, DLCs included. I also did all achievements apart of those added with DLCs. Now I'm replaying Odyssey after my fourth playthrough of Origins and I'm loving it again. This time I focus mainly on side quests and main missions and do not distract myself by doing all "?" on the map and this way the game feels even more awesome than before.
I got odyssey and played it for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Going into it I was highly pessimistic and expected to hate it. But now that I’ve finished the game except for the dlc I can truly say that it’s my favourite ac game. If not it’s definitely in my top 3
I love this game, the world is like traversing a painting it's absolutely beautiful. The older AC games bored the arse off me if I'm totally honest. Odyssey is a truly exceptional experience and I'm still enjoying it today.
This is why you never listen to critics or random You Tubers. And just form your own opinion.
For me 9 times out of 10 critics and You Tubers are just flat out wrong.
@@furynvm nevertheless is an amazing game. Is it the title that disgusts you?
Valhalla's gameplay looks like a complete upgrade. It almost looks pre rendered
Lmao
Lol
Cinematic gameplay
yeah can’t wait for valhalla
Graphics gonna look nothing like the trailer😂
lazerzz after seeing the title: AGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Lazerzz fucking DESTROYS young child who played Odyssey one time
meymey Gonzalez fix your grammar
@@stinkoshatter-shield2096 eh?
Did that actually happen?
Ryan Howe no
I had 850 hours on this game. Yh I said it.
I find the story actually better than other ac stories, cuz here the “hidden blade” is a spear from her grandpa who was a war god, it is alot beter than just getting a hidden blade. (My opinion)
That issue with the critical assassination...It took me 30 hours of gameplay to figure out that you can only activate it when you have an adrenaline bar😂
Took me the whole playthrough btw I am on the second
This should of been explained somewhere .
I would've played over 100s of hours of this game and not known that had I not made the decision to scroll through this comment section.
11:50 This cutscene's gonna haunt me for the rest of my life.
Man, that's basically me.
Indeed, i love the game but Ubisoft got real lazy there.
I think the leap of faith was explained narratively as both Alexios and Kassandra surviving the fall from that cliff at that young age. It may also explain the entire bloodline's immunity to such high falls.
I really wish Ubisoft let the Quebec team make an RPG set in Ancient Greece using the AC engine without slapping the AC name on it. Without the limitations of having to exist in an already established universe it would have been a much more interesting game and it could've been an opportunity for Ubisoft to launch a new successful franchise without alienating AC fans.
My sentiment exactly. The Quebec team clearly dislikes making ac games and it shows in the quality of games ( ac syndicate and odyssey). They honestly feel like lazy side games built using the foundations from the Montreal team.
I'd argue against that.
Firstly, the game uses the AC name to hit the ground running. It doesn't need to sit down and justify how the powers and artifacts work because the past games already established it. Like, Avengers Endgame doesn't need to talk about how the Stones work because the past films already established them. It only needs to discuss time travel because that's the new thing.
Secondly, the RPG stuff enhances the AC stuff that's already there. Combat, Stealth and exploration have far more depth and options now. Prior Games were half-assed with this system whereas Ody fully embraces them and is better for it
@@gam3rf0R3vR WHich is funny seeing as Ody is the best AC game
It's called Gods and Monsters and should be releasing in a year or less.
They are, it’s called gods and monsters
Although I really disliked this game, your facts and reasoning are very well made. And even though I disliked the story, you still changed my mind in some things, so I respect your opinion. Great vid.
I’m glad you liked the video. I personally wished I back my points up more however it is what it is lol
If you stop telling yourself you dislike send it and give it a chance you'll likely change your mind bro
@@ThatBoyAqua I think some of people's issues could have been changed with a few tweaks. for example the speech options. if you choose an option that goes against characterization for example killing your father, if you do this often you become desycronized easier. that could make you consider your actions before performing them. I think if they cult of cosmos mentioned an allied group or a small splinter group in Egypt it could have connected the stories of origins and odyssey. And also your character wearing a suit in modern day does make sense. if you had lived from the time period of achint Greece all the way up to modern day then you would be the richest person in history. so that does work. although it does look jarring.
@@jerrybierman9047 I thought the order of the ancients was formed as a direct consequence to the kult of cosmos. The cult brought chaos. Playign both sides, creating wars for profit, wrecking lives. The Order was formed as the 'order' to counter that and they quickly became toxic themselves. Trying to control, killing in the name of greater good etc. The origin of the Order is as a result of unbridled chaos.
@@OldSkoolWax Well it's a possiblity but they never say the origins of the Order. so it's unclear.
Odyssey is a whole vibe tbh. I feel a certain way when playing it. Like nostalgia, but i wasn't alive back then.
That’s how I felt when I played gta iv
Except I was alive back then lol
Better than Valhalla for sure.
Odyssey is the game I never knew I wanted. I was a traditional AC fan, but the game has overtaken the number 1 spot on my list. It was addicting and I couldn’t stop playing. I’m a sucker for Greek mythology and mixing that with AC was perfect. I like the humor and beauty of the world. It doesn’t tell the story as sophisticated as previous games but worked for me. I played Origins because of it, Both are great games but I like the fantasy aspect of Odyssey more.
I played the free weekend in December last year and logged over 40 hours in 4 days! Compare that to the less than 4 hours I've only managed with Black Flag that I bought a month earlier!
They didn't mix greek mythology with AC. They mixed it with RPG
I didn't even meant to buy it. I just saw it's ultimate edition for 30$, so I got it. I didn't think at all it be nearly as good as it is.
My favorite subject is history I absolutely love history and my favorite time period is Ancient Greece specifically the Peloponnesian wars But assassin’s creed odyssey makes me hate Ancient Greece Odyssey is a terrible game with even worse characters and god awful story
@@godzillazfriction I feel completely disconnected from Kassandra or Alexios which that in it of itself is a disconnect already the fact that I have two different main characters I can choose from but technically Kassandra is Canon to the story but I can still choose Alexios doesn’t make sense and more on that with Odyssey when I’m Kassandra I can choose to slaughter a town and then next be A savior which is zero consistency also one of the main DLCs of the game Legacy of the First Blade ruins the canon of assassins creed in AC ORGINS Bayek Who is the one that implemented the leap of faith into the brotherhood but in odysseys DLC Darius is the first one now that does a leap of faith which makes no sense it has zero continuity to the game that came literally came before odyssey also apparently Kassandra is related to Aya from Orgins which means aya comes from a strong Isu blood line sense Kassandra is essentially a demigod which is retarted But when Aya holds the piece of Eden in Orgins nothing happens and she comes from such a strong blood line but when Ezio and Desmond touch a piece of Eden their is a reaction and they come from weaker blood lines also Odyssey is way too big with pointless and uninteresting side quests the main cities in odyssey are dead with zero population and the enemies in odyssey are just big damage sponges that take billions of health damage to kill
Recently started to revisit Unity. I will say that while Odyssey is a fine enough game, I hardly feel like an assassin playing it. By the time I put down the game for a while I ended up having 3 loadouts for the 3 different damage types. My assassin loadout ended up being really good and overpowered, but it took me 100+ hours to get to the point where I could walk up to any enemy and assassinate them outright. It took me out of the experience more often than not when leveling up, because stabbing someone with a broken spear would normally kill anybody, and it hardly ever did until about level 40. I miss being able to truly sneak around an enemy camp/compound and properly strategize and create a route without it being interrupted by only half killing an enemy.
not to mention you use a BROKEN SPEAR.
@@Dylan-wi6lp he’s talking about being Max level and being able to insta assassinate everyone
@@Dylan-wi6lp well idk I ain’t make the comment I’m just explaining what he said
@@Dylan-wi6lp which if you just travel the world youbwill inevitably come across enemy camps that are way harder than your level and you have no way to defeat them without hitting them 50 times. Also level scaling just makes it worse.
I've done 6 play throughs of Odyssey and It's still my favorite of the franchise next to Unity.
No matter what you say, Fizhy will keep hating Odyssey without a second of thought. The guy is just too thickheaded to understand any logical arguments.
The Assassin's Creed fanbase is one of the worst because of people like him, too thickskulled to accept changes, i find lots of things to love in each game, even though they are different, franchises need to update and change, or they will shrivle up and die
@@justrandomstuff6828 The funny thing here is that before the release of Origins and Odyssey, fans were trashing Ubisoft for how similar all the AC games were and how they needed to overhaul the series. Ubisoft brought the franchise in a new direction with Origins, even took an extra year to develop the game... And then the "fans" started bitching about the changes. People need to take their heads out of their asses, the older games were just as flawed as the newer ones, perhaps even more so.
Denbis
"The weapons feel like they have power"
I'll have to disagree with you, you literally have to hit an enemy 15 times to kill them, even if they are at the same level as you, which just makes the combat boring over time.
Edit: ok the comment section exploded and is half agreeing with me and half against me, I have to specify, I have not played the game (my critique is valid because I can see the combat pretty clearly from footage so don't give me that shit) and I am planning to play it, but i'd be stupid to buy it for the full price so I am now waiting for a big discount.
Agreed.
I found that to be the case with swords and daggers, but if you’re using blunts and heavy blades you carve through enemies much faster, and it’s a lot more satisfying. Regardless, I still find it more fun than the clunky, awkward combat of the old games. If nothing else, odyssey and origins have (in my opinion) consistently fun and smooth combat, easily the best in the series when balancing fun and challenge
@@Sandy-ik1ic Odyssey is just damage sponge version of Origins combat. The past games were mostly just counter attack based which wasn't that good, I personally would love another take on either Unity or Origins combat and not this
@H Atkinson The combat still feels like every strike just phases through your opponent and the only damage you see are the numbers that spew out of him
Odyssey is sadly level based, therefore attempting to take on a character with a red number above their head or a skull will take a while no matter what your gear is. Now if you have good gear, good weapons and meet an opponent at your level, the weapons will do plenty of damage and will still feel powerful, the bow especially, as well as the spear. I often used a spear and bow, sometimes for stealth areas I’d use the bow to take down several opponents at a distance (for example one of the soldiers on a wall in a fortress while I’m on top of a tower in the middle of the fort) then I’d use the chain assassination and even if it doesn’t kill instantly as long as you target another person you can return and chain assassinate that thug that isn’t quite dead yet, and do this until either you run out of chain assassinations or kill them. Not to mention as you level up your health bar increases, and for the sake of balancing the enemy health bars should be bigger as well.
The point about Syndicate and stealth is to point out how bad the leveling system is in that game, *NOT* the hidden blade.
Being able to assassinate a target is a reward for the player for being able to move so close to an opponent without alerting anyone, removing that makes stealth pretty pointless until you have gear that is high level enough, until you reach that point there is absolutely no reason for you not to go slaughtering a whole fort like Rambo. I love AC Oddyssey but the stealth is absolutely awful
Odd-Olhos Pendulum Dragão the Ubisoft formula make leveling grindy so that the consumer can buy Xp boosts
There are some problems with that.
Firstlly, the reward only works if there's a challenge to overcome. Spamming Smoke Grenades to be able to run and cheese a mission isn't a reward. It's an exploit.
Secondly, Ody actually has more systems than that which make stealth beter. You can use critical strikes and the like to kill enemies, even those higher levelled than you but you have to earn the opportunity. You can absolutly stealth kill all normal enemies in a fort and still have it be the most efficient way
@@roshaanreddy8107 Except you don't need them, nor are they any more grindy than other RPGs like Borderlands or Morrowind
Fraser Souris The stealth system should be robust enough that being able to get close and deliver a one hit kill IS an accomplishment.
The new games’ detection AI is pretty lackluster (I think he mentions how oblivious the guards are to people noisily dying five feet from them in the video). Unity/Syndicate’s AI was sometimes inconsistent at seeing you, but never obnoxiously def. The new games’ enemies can usually see you consistently, if and only if they ever bother to swing their narrow cone of vision in your direction. Guards used to turn their heads and look around. Now they mostly stare stiffly in one direction, walk while looking straight forward, and stop at another place where they look straight forward for the next three minutes. Was that the sound of an armored person crushing someone into the ground after a 20 foot drop? I’m not facing that direction, so it didn’t happen. The old last gen games had def NPCs, but Unity fixed that, why on earth would they move so noticeably backward with the new ones?
And they’ve drastically decreased our options for stealth for no reason. Why remove Unity/Syndicate’s cover system? Why remove pressing against walls beside a doorway or corner? The only cover now is crouching in a bush. It’s devolved back to the last gen games, but even III onward allowed you to press against a wall at a corner, with specific kills and animations for that situation. It came out in 2018 and yet Odyssey has as little stealth options as AC1; or actually less. Even if you couldn’t whistle or crouch in a bush in AC1, you could blend with scholars, blend on a bench, and hide inside environmental cover like tents/curtains. So even AC1 had *one more* in its total of stealth gameplay options than Origins/Odyssey did.
I think it’s funny you mentioned smoke as a cheap exploitative way to get through stealth encounters, as if that’s the worst thing the series has ever done. At least in the old ones doing an assassination the cheesy shitty way you mentioned involved strategically using your very limited smoke supply at the right times, and messing up meant rushing in and destroying 20 people with those games’ easy combat. But Origins and Odyssey have an even cheaper, more low-effort, dirtier way through stealth encounters and even some main assassination missions: the bow. It easily takes the cake as the most cheap, exploitative tool to clear out enemies stealthily in the entire series.
It’s really hard to resist the urge to cheese most of the stealth encounters and Assassinations in Origins/Odyssey with a bow, especially when Odyssey basically lets you hold infinite arrows since you can craft them on the spot with wood that is so easy to find you never run out. My instinct always is to take the path of least resistance and headshot everything that breathes with predator shot. I always find myself wanting to do that because it literally is, in 90% of all situations, the most practical way to clean out enemies without even being close enough to risk death. Even if I messed up and got detected, I’d be halfway through the area’s enemies before you mess up, and could pick off most of them before they could get to my location on top of the tallest building near the edge of the area.
It’s kind of weird that I consciously have to do stealth the harder, slower way or else it’s not fun. And even then forcing myself to sneak in and stab my way though like real Assassins Creed gameplay, I end up underwhelmed by all the lack of most of the series stealth gameplay features I previously mentioned. Sometimes I’ll snipe with a bow just because I don’t feel that sneaking through is worth it, either way is meh and unsatisfying, might as well do the quicker of the two.
Exploration and combat are fun in Odyssey, stealth is so meh it doesn’t really have a reason to be there (in other words, the Assassins Creed gameplay in the game is the weakest link, why wasn’t this game its own thing, it could have been better as an Ancient Greece fantasy RPG without the constraints and forced connections of AC lore or interruptions by stupid modern-day garbage that no one cares about anymore.)
@@FraserSouris I see your point but they make these xp packs available for a reason
Like, the game literally *TELLS YOU* to to check notice boards for contracts and explore the islands for sidequests if you feel you need to level up.
*You DON'T NEED to resort to microtransactions unless you really WANT TO.*
I don't know why that's so *DIFFICULT* for some people to understand!
The second I began playing ACO, I couldn't put it down for months. I was so immersed in it! From the story to the combat system to the exploration... Everything was perfect, I couldn't believe I actually got to play something like that. I think one of the things that really blew me away was how different and unique everything looked. I know some people say ACO landscapes are too repetitive, but I found it quite the contrary. Every single location felt unique with its own specific features, be it a town for mining, a fishing dock, a town drowned in blooming flowers. It's a bit surprising to learn out that this game got a fair bit of hate 😅 I really want to replay it from scratch, so maybe that's what I will do after AC Mirage :) Visiting Ancient Greece in this game feels a bit like going on vacation haha.
How can I slaughter a whole village and be just as bad as demios then my character tells demios they need to stop and be good like them?
Orgins did a way better job with combat, stealth, leveling, story
And graphics.
And don't get me started on the dlcs
Yeah that's my stance on this game,
It seems like odyssy has devided the fandom more than ever before :-[
"How can I slaughter a whole village and be just as bad as demios then my character tells demios they need to stop and be good like them?"
It means you are bad at roleplaying
I aggree...but besides that. Odyssey is still a hella fun game.
Matheus Fernandes no thats not the point that is bad writing in gta ur a criminal so u murdering and robbing makes sense in this game they set it up as ur a hero a mercenary but a person who is still a hero so how come i can murder a village and be fine and at that
Doing that is a direct violation of lore
Im no guy who like we cant just have fun but thats bad writing and game design
@@DivineeTray and also in red dead redemption 2 you have an honor system if you killed alot of civilians you get the bad honor,get different dialogues other than the same ones,the good honor is the same too with helping alot of civilians instead of killing them you gain an honor and both actually impacts the story and not just in odyssey where you kill the civilians and still end up the hero of the story
I'm not here to argue, just wanted to say that I spend near hundreds of hours in this game and I enjoyed all of them
So I have been an assassins creed fan ever since AC2. I adored the Ezio trilogy and played most of the games out except for Unity and Syndicate.
I loved this game, I recently got it on sale from EpicGames for $15-20, I can’t exactly remember. I have put 125 hours into my first playthrough, I’m level 68, still finding new legendary gear and I’m about to start my 2nd playthrough after I finish the Gates of Atlantis DLC (came with the sale, freakin awesome). I like the new direction that the gameplay is going. I still have a ton of fun challenging myself to play stealthily. I agree the story gets corny and ridiculous at times but AC stories have kind of always been like that... writers are far from perfect imo. I’m still looking forward to Valhalla
I got the game around the time it came out played it for an hour and didn't really like it because of how different it was (last ac I've played was unity) but recently I decided to give it a chance and I love it, the leveling system, the loot you can get, naval stuff, the 5 categories. It's an amazing game.
Played ODYSSEY 3000 hours...
6:28 " the horse riding animation looks spectacular"
Then how would you describe it in Red dead redemption 2 ???
Odyssey is nice and all but those riding animations Suck fat ass
@@the_seer_0421 The horse's LOOK is far worse than it's animation. In a game with this level of graphics and character detail, the horses are embarrassing.
I absolutely hate how horses feel in Odyssey. Because the animations is lifted from Origins where it is used for Camels. An animal that isn't a horse. So it just looks dumb
modzer 75 Horse riding in Red Dead Redemption: The horse will kick you off if a predator is near by or even a mile away and just before you can switch to your rifle. The horse screwed me over more times then Micah.
@@Revick_Revas odd. That happened to me very rarely.
is it just me who feels this way that (again playing both in 2020)
- the character model animations in Odyssey are too fluid, so fluid, in fact, it feels someone just fast-forwarded the gameplay and it feels like loony toons when the character does anything physical. on the other hand, in Origin the characters seem to have actual weight, when they move, when they turn, climb, etc there is a certain natural delay in the movements. it feels like i am controlling a character made of flesh and blood.
- And the details of the environment on Odyssey feel they did it in a hurry. In Origins if you go to a Greek or Egyptian temple, the sounds, the NPCs, the decor, the rituals they all seem so painstakingly detailed. And the variations of Npc activity and trades in different areas of the map are also detailed in Origin. Even the boats of a fisherman, or a hunter or a farmer or a soldier are all designed differently. the water has debris, algae even different color based on the area.
- yes, in Odyssey, they used higher res texture, leaf moves realistically, you need to do 6 tasks all over the map thousands of meter apart. But i enjoyed just riding along the desert in Origin as all the above factors together work so well visually.
- Or maybe i just got fed up by consistently facing the upskirt view of the playable characters of Odyssey and jumped back to Origins.
I'm not reading this whole comment because I'm lazy but that's some real dedication my man
Origins is 10x better in my opinion
@@professor_deadshot Patrice and his original team would like to have a word with you.
They are the ones who created Assassin's Creed and it's a shame Ubisoft drove them out.
Now these games nolonger even feel like Assassin's Creed.
@@professor_deadshot you do realize Patrice had a storyboard, gameplan and road map for everything?
You do realize that once he left the stories have all been incoherent jumbled and a mess?
Like what is the story of black flag in the grand scheme of things? For you to even say what you are saying honestly buffles me coz it shows you will play anything Ubisoft slaps the assassin's Creed title on...even a first person shooter.
I have not said Ashraf is trash but my point is that all assassin's Creed Gabe's ever since Patrice left have no vision correlation and focus.
It's just an assassin's Creed title for the sake of being an assassin's Creed title.
Ubisoft has milked the franchise to death at this point. Yearly releases, Assassin's Creed games that have nothing to do with Assassin's, a storyline that doesn't make sense let alone even be interesting anymore and worst of all majority of the original story being retconed and discarded.
@@TheLoudBoyo what can i say? "Lockdown" boredom i guess :D
My only “complaint” so far is how being even a single level lower than an enemy makes you worthless against them. Case in point, bounty hunters popped up. I’m 13, he’s 14. My gear is upgraded and almost all purple. I do almost no damage.
Otherwise I really like it a lot
Oddessy is ok as a RPG it’s horrible as an Assassin’s creed game
Exactly
Yeah that’s what I been saying
It’s not even that great of an rpg
@Tom Ffrench black flag has a great main character and story
@Tom Ffrench b-but it still has the assassin's creed gameplay
when someone says a game is not a great assassin's creed game I don't think they're talking about how much the assassin's show up in the story
Can’t disagree more about odyssey having the best loading screen in the series. They dropped the interactive aspect, which in a game with such long loading times is a terrible idea. Plus if your issue is with the white light of older screens, origins fixes that but doesn’t get rid of the interactive side.
Black Flag, Unity, Rogue. None of these are bright white and retain the interactive.
Zyx Luz unity doesn’t even have an interactive loading screen
Honestly, the only good thing about the old interactive loading screens was... well, nothing. They’re boring as shit. All you can do is run in circles. All I ever did was read the tool tip boxes anyway and sit there while I waited for stuff to load. The only reason you might want an interactive loading screen on odyssey is simply to pander to people’s expectations for an AC game, which is by no means necessary to make the loading screens enjoyable. Or rather, as enjoyable as a loading screen can be
How long are your load screen? Wtf, it takes me at most 5 seconds
I only saw loading screens when fast traveling, never any other time. And it only lasted like 5 seconds tops.
The thing is, I liked the game, but for the wrong reason I like AC games. The setting was beautiful, but the world was, if you consider other AC games likes Unity, 2 or Blackflag, very bland.
Ohh yea, and the thing I really hate are those bullet sponge enemies.
The world was beautiful, super diverse and alive.
It is one of the best if not the best part of the game
Mister K not diverse, Athens and Sparta was beautiful but other cities look just copy and paste. The world was beautiful tho
The world was beautiful, and it was fun to roam around and sparta kick people into oblivion.
But because of the freedom to cock about in the world, the story for me took a massive hit. I don't really have a clue what actually happened in the story.
@@gebakkendonut Not diverse? Dude... Korinth, Athens, Sparta, Kreta, Lesbos...
Every region of the Greek world looks different and unique. Like you could show me any major city in the game or any other makor location and I could tell you where it´s from
The damage sponge enemies were a real problem. Side activities were a big issue for me too. Every camp was exactly the same. I felt like I was just ticking off boxes. I do appreciate Aqua's fresh take and positivity, however I disagree with a lot of what he said. I'm a big fan of this channel. Wish ih could say the same for Odyssey.
When it first came out, I tried it. Didn't play too much, strongly disliked how it wasn't really an Assassin's Creed game (grew up with 2 and Brotherhood, I loved those games because they were fun, but I adored the story and the Assassin's vs Templars).
About a week ago, I tried Odyssey again, and it has been so much fun. If it wasn't called "Assassin's Creed Odyssey" and just "Odyssey," I would have never had any issues with it. I was unfair to the game. It's gorgeous, fun, with a solid story and characters, and an absolutely breathtaking world. I'm in love with this game, although I still dislike the fact it has nothing to do with Assassin's Creed other than a few little insignificant things throughout the game (although, finding an Apple of Eden in the Minotaur's horn earlier today shook me).
It's not an AC game because Alexios and Kassandra aren't assassins, it's an AC game because it's set in the universe
I am an OG to the assassin‘s creed franchise it’s taking me three years to pick up ODYSSEY for about the seventh time now that I have done that this year after the 60 FPS patch I absolutely love this game and is in my top three favorite assassin‘s creed games Pure gold all the way around the board I can still live out the assassin fantasy
Honestly "in defense of" series is gold, people out their spreading hate on AC series. Appreciate it👌
@BloBby it's hard to do that when the game isn't enjoyable and all we want is for the series to go back to how good it was during the ezio trilogy.
@BloBby is that too much to ask?
BloBby nah we just want good games that’s why we enjoyed origins
@BloBby "you've spent 60€ (100€ for Gold edition) on a game that is not that good ? How you dare to criticize it ? Why can't you just have fun ?"
This is how stupid you sound, if you like it good for you. But don't tell others how they should feel.
@@ra1d254 You are a walking stereotype of an Ezio fanboy, my friend. "We just want good games, like the Ezio trilogy." Oh, you mean like Assassin's Creed 2? That horribly dated, clunky and dreadfully boring game? Oh, yes, please take us back to the good ol' days of one of the worst combat systems in the entire franchise, the most stunted and unsatisfying parkour mechanics, borderline nonexistent stealth, and a boring "list of targets" plot structure. Of course, you, sir, are the arbiter of what is a "good video game." Clearly nostalgia has nothing to do with it.
Sure the combat may look flashy but the damage sponge enemies never made me feel like the powerful superhuman the character was made out to be, let alone an assassin. The painstakingly long time it takes to kill many enemies left me unsatisfied with the combat
I found the way to get around that is to pay attention to the stats. Later in the game I got nearly every enemy to a two hit kill by having a my sword buffed to light targets on fire. So it gets better but the early game is tedious for sure.
The only time its kinda bad is level 10-15. Before then the enemies are properly scaled, and beyond that you start to get enough gear and engravings to let you really fine-tune your build. If you think enemies are damage sponges maybe pay attention to what gear youre putting on and what abilities you're getting
@@broncsfan767 They're definitely still pretty spongy but nothing that goes to the point of them being game-breaking like most people try to say.
@@ziggidy_bop7471 well some bosses take 30 minutes when a boss should take 23 at a max. As long as its not a game built around bosses
You know if you actually equip good gear you are able to make your best playstyle, you buff certain abilities and stats to make you a Demi god in fighting, stealth, and hunting. That’s what I love about this game legendary sets have engraving that can be OP when combined with really good booster weapons. You just need to spend time getting to learn the benefits of your gear and then sooner or later, you will find yourself killing 5 soldiers with one ability.
ODYSSEY is my favorite AC game ;)
*takes pitchfork to defend himself*
What difficulty did you play on? Currently doing my first playthrough on hard, doing a lot of side quests but drachmae is a bit of a crunch
Most of the improvements you mentioned are just from Origins
True
Does that invalidate what Odyssey does?
@@delusionalnoodles No but the way he talks about them makes it seems like they are new to the series. Odyssey definitely does some things right.
Origins also introduced lootboxes and resource grind. Odyssey then decided that wasn't enough grind and gave us pointless boring repetitive side missions. I was asked to go fetch medicine so many times I thought I was playing a pharmacy simulator.
Origins has a mess of a story
Can u make an in defence of assassins creed 3, I feel like that game is underrated af and gets so much hate
Same
It’s awesome
@@hammerite6418 i agree
It's cool but it could be better. That's basically AC3.
Due to the lack of character development. We ourselves could’ve done a better story for Connor and mostly because it came right after ezio series
This game kicked ass. I don’t understand how it gets so much hate
The numbers everywhere is such a turn off
The irony of a gold tier supporting with the name “Pyrite” makes me laugh. Anyways good video as always Aqua!
Truly fools gold
I was totally in love with this game, and not gonna lie, a little in love with Alexios
Edit: I put in about 200 hours and completed all of the DLC and I truly had very little problems with this game. I actually didn't have a lot of bad textures at all.
Stop with the flex
@@norrisblanton3980 that was rude dude. I don't like the game either but chill it's just her opinion
@@norrisblanton3980 she's right. I didnt have the disappearing textures too. Complaining about "bad textures" when it's your pc settings fault is unfair.
@@seraby7151 exactly
I played this almost immediately after completing Origin, unaware or any reviews at the time. Outside of the initial control scheme adjustment, I found it more enjoyable than Origin in many ways.
This video really inspired me to get back into odyssey since I’ve only played it for like 15 minutes a couple months ago and never touched it again but I’m loving it right now and I do agree that I have lost a lot of time into it feeling like what was 3 hours was actually 6 or 7 from how fun and immersed I was. I also especially loved the whole war aspect and how you can either pick Athens or Sparta in these major battles even if it’s kinda copy and paste it adds a lot of replayability especially considering some side missions are locked behind which faction controls and area it’s super cool. But yeah the horses are annoying with towns and those areas. It really is a fun game and I know some people don’t like this new assassins creed direction but I feel like you can have a ton of fun with it when you give it the chance.
I have about 83 hours played so far, and I can honestly say that Odyssey has been great fun to play
I don't like the "it's always been unrealistic" strawman it rings hollow and deflective, grounded disbelief is a thing every story has regardless of setting. Star Wars new triology showed us exactly why you can't just break established rules or push past the point of believe-ability because it COULD be possible. i.e Leia defying death from being ejected into space. 11ish games into the franchise and only recently has the fantasy element we've been seeing and are used to is being broken. The story from the start was already established pseudo science. With Mythical godlike devices from a race long gone. But it never once jumped into folklore or god like pantheons. Or had people defying physics (outside the leap of faith). I'm sorry but people have every right to be upset about these changes.
Honestly using "It's always been unrealistic" doesn't justify adding more unrealistism that breaks the established concept of something.
"Leap of Faith is unrealistic because it's impossible to survive a jump and fall to a haystack hundreds of feet in the air, there for it it should be ok to add a skill that let's you jump off a mountain thousands of feet in the air and land on your feet with no issue"
Is like saying "The Force is unrealistic either way therefore it's ok for Rey to use the Force and turn enemies into monkeys"
Came here to say this, his point was very weak and self defeating. “There’s a middle ground to meet half way” yet the game doesn’t want to meet halfway so what then? We could accept leaps of faith because they’re not flashy. We can accept isu artifacts and their magical abilities because they were set up
I can accept cosmetic skins on horses as animus liberties, as well as regenerating health. But this game moved past that a lot
It makes more sense than you think it does. Most of the games have been set within the last thousand or so years. I think the earliest is the first one and it takes place in the 1200’s, and the latest is syndicate in the late 1800’s. Origins and odyssey take place thousands of years before any of the previous games. The weird technology has likely faded in that time, to the point that there are only a handful of artifacts scattered across the world, as well as a few places where there are entire structures. Thousands of years before that though? It makes quite a bit of sense that it would be significantly more intact. It’s important to understand the timeline involved here. We aren’t talking a few decades, we’re talking about entire millennia. Look at how much things have changed in that time in the real world. Civilizations have risen and fallen, grand structures have been erected and slowly become dilapidated husks, hundreds of generations have passed. It’s not crazy to believe that this weird technology is in a much better, and therefore much more “mystical”, state.
Logan Sanders I agree with this. Also, a lot of the “weird” tech or the mythical creatures are ancient ISU-creations that have been noticed and integrated to the Ancient Greek culture and belief. It is not unrealistic more than apples of Eden or other artifacts, it’s just untouched at this point in the timeline.
Such a bad take. Had you played the game you'd know why it has more fantasy elements than the other games. But no surprise you havent end are just reiterating the same bullshit everyone does. So let me explain. The game is the earliest time period and you actually see remnants of the old civilization left there which is where the 'fantasy' parts come from. You protag is literally a demigod, not figuritvely. they are the descendants from the old civilization and their weapon is an Isu artifact. Just like the piece of eden can control minds in AC1, your spear can make a bright light to stun mortals here and you can jump from a mountain, its because you are part Isu (the same civilization that canonically created human beings). The 'mythical' creatures are literally Isu created bioweapons. The game isnt fantasy, its still that very pseudo science that youre ok with, just expanded upon because its the earliest game.
But this wont change your opinion because you just want to cry like baby huurr duuurr not my AC.
Ac odyssey is a fantastic game, and yes it IS assassin's creed as it explores the origins of the lore related to the AC franchise, haters should first try to understand the lore haha
This was actually the first game of the series where I enjoyed using an Assassin play style. In previous entries it just felt far more effective to just dive in and take the people on a straight up fight. In Odyssey though it was actually fun to sneak through areas and only take out those you needed to, having to hide the body if you didn't have the right ability to make them disappear. And when you did have to fight the combat was silky smooth.
Odyssey was the game that truly got me excited about the Assassin's Creed universe...then Valhalla killed that excitement.
Oh wow. Exactly what i was thinking.
I did feel the same way about stealth but once u practice enough stealth in the older games. Its really smooth and easy. Odysseys stealth is too easy, and broken. I find it better to just go in and fight in odyssey rather than hiding and taking out one person at a time
I've loved Valhalla so far. Plus the fact that they have steadily been releasing DLC for 2 years is just amazing to me.
I am 190 hours in and i don't think i'm even close to having beat every thing.
I wanted to like this game, I really did! I kept trying that I put 40 hours into it before deciding to quit the game. I love Origins though. I just found that I couldn't get attached to the main story and struggled to care. I think the combat is too spongy as well. I finally put the game down after playing the first episode of the first blade dlc (which I was excited the most for) and I didn't like it. The rest of the game doesn't feel very attached to the rest of the franchise, but when I get to the DLC focused around AC and it was bad; I couldn't bare to play it anymore. I also hate the parkour and wish it would go back to the older games way of doing it.
I feel you
From a gameplay aspect Odyssey is good. Its combat is decent but its exploration and use of equipment/currency is well done. However, "detached" is a word that I definitely can get behind. The whole game certainly feels detached from the franchise in its approach to gameplay and story. The greek story is fine but the modern story is the most inconsequential I've ever felt about any Assassin's Creed game and that's not good. They keep trying to push Layla as the new Desmond from what I can tell without amy real moments with her at all in the modern era. Its all behind optional text and audio logs that honestly comes off as confusing and homework like than engaging. Its also just poor/lazy storytelling. Both Origins and Odyssey have a much more interesting story than the modern story and that falls out of line with older AC games. Its disappointing they've screwed up the modern story so badly because it feels like a lot of love went into the last 2 games. But Odyssey being a Greek Witcher is not AC. Guess there's always Valhalla
I feel you that’s why I’ve been skeptical on getting it
Lol I was the same as you. I put a lot of hours in the game until I dropped it at the Atlantis episode 2 dlc. Legacy of the first blade made no sense with me.
If I was the director I would've made the story focused around Darius in Odyssey instead tbh.
@@ericwilliams7945 just dont. Ac origins is better. Odyssey is heartless and empty and holds the story hostage to push you to buy level boosters with real money. Wait until valhalla or return to the classics
What makes this game break the lore for me is that even though the whole story of Assassin's Creed IS unrealistic and filled with lots of fantasy elements, it still has rules on what's reasonable in it or not.
Kind of how, say, if a UFO with grey aliens or someone pulling out a gun would feel out of place in Lord of the Rings, seeing actual monsters like medusa and the minotaur feels out of place in this game. And yeah, I know they explain it in the story with the isu apples and experiments and such but like... idk, it felt so off for me.
It's not even a fun little easter egg either, kinda like with the "it's a-me, Mario" or the giant octopus from ac2, its a big part of the story and necessary to finish the game so you can't like... look away from it.
And it's not that I didn't like them either, I loved fighting Medusa and hanging out with the sphinx, I just wish it would be without the Assassin's Creed title looming it. Oh well.
Also I agree with the final ending with the main character in a suit being super ridiculous, BUT what really did it for me was that even though they were in a modern suit, their hairstyles didnt get a modern take at all and still look ancient. Its such a small thing but it would've really cemented them being hip and modern if, say, Alexios got a haircut or Kassandra did her hair in a modern style, idk. It's such a little unimportant detail but it was all I could think about.
Other than that, I agree with most of the stuff you talked about! While I don't really like this game personally, it's because I'm more interested in the lore and story of any game more than how it feels to play it and I'm also a big ac fan unfortunately... I have to admit though, I did have lots of fun playing through it. It actually made me care a little about greek history and learn a lot about it too, even without the tour mode! :D
I get the fact that anyone would dislike the game, enjoying a game is subjective. But I don’t really get what you mean with the mythical creatures being faulty lore. They are part of keeping the Gates of Atlantis shut, created by the ISU. What is not very immersive imo is traveling around on a flaming horse outside of the underworld simulations. That just feels kinda weird. Also really liked the video though :)
Jack Ahlberg its faulty cause thats not ac and they have always tried to keep the past as grounded as they can with some fantasty here and there
I mean you’re in a literal “simulation”. Simulations can be corrupted like any technology and can show things that may not have actually happened or may not have been real. So it’s not “unrealistic” given the fact that the lyla is in a simulation
Lakerfan024 no that’s a shitty excuse
Jack Ahlberg well, let me explain you then, cause everything has an answer. (almost)
Who are these “creatures”? And the explanation for their existence is Project “Olymp” in Odyssey, i.e., the union of people and animals. Isu’s unite them with the help of Apple of Eden. This raises a logical question. Is it possible in the Assassin’s Creed universe to do this with “Pieces of Eden”? No, It is Immpossible. The bottom line is that the “Pieces of Eden” can change a person, but there are some natural limits. An “Apple” can turn a monkey into a man, because he himself will come to this through evolution, that is, the Apple of Eden simply speeds up the process of evolution. And the excuse "This is such magic" is also not true. You must understand that the “Pieces of Eden” are not magical things, they are ordinary objects made of strange metal. By themselves, they are useless; they have no energy and cannot do anything on their own. They work when a person is nearby (especially in people with Isu genes). Patrice Désilets is a fan of themes with evolution, he created the game(Ancestors), and left this logic in Assassin’s Creed 2. What is the scene with the apple and the primate, where he clearly shows it. He tried to say that it was science fiction, and that it was NOT magic. But now even in the interview you can hear that it has become magic. I laughed with the AC3 Remmastered commercials. There the developer calmly says: "It is a pity that there is no «magic» spear." Canon? Funny? Very funny.
around 2:33 your history/french thing was the exact thing i felt with odyssey, i was studying ancient greece, both persian/s and peoponnesian wars it was cool af to walk into conversations about the delian league knowing everything about it, being able to see the stuff i studied in film and being interactive. highly recommend any of the ac games in the era you are studying.
I just finished my Odyssey tonight. It was weird at first, the new systems, armor and spear, but after I took a break and started again a month later, I fell in love with it.
Alexios can ba a badass but at times, he's just a clown. And I love that.
What I liked the most about the game was learning new things as I went forward, making the wrong choice can make you look cruel or like a donkey. So pay attention to what people are saying.
Engravings gave you great choices, the Underwater breathing one was extremely useful and the one that makes you invincible for a few seconds has saved me many times.
What I don't get is, why people hate it so much. It's more challenging and requires some thought at times. Changes in the formula ar pretty much necessary. Replaying the older ones is nice in terms of the stories, but the gameplay feels a little wooden after you realize you can just counter attack for the win.
Overall, it was great and serves as good inspiration for my future D&D stories. 9/10
kassandra is the cannon character it was conformed by ubisoft
And the book
But alexios is on the front cover and on all of the advertising
@@moosejuice4231 he is but in the book which is cannon it refers alexios as Deimos
But you see that’s the problem, if the would’ve built the game around her character and actually establishing a personality for her and only her, instead of doing this weird Frankenstein mix just because it needs to account for you choosing a male character than the story and writing probably would’ve been better. It just showed they had no backbone as studio to commit and the story and writing suffered for it. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If they would’ve done it more in line with how the Witcher series implemented their game than it would’ve been so much better. Gerald has his personality already set so he isn’t a blank slate, he has things he would and wouldn’t do and you play the game based off of that with your own player choice, but still adhering to who he is at his core. They could’ve done this with Kassandra.
not to me... i watched the whole game bc i didn't have a good pc to play the game and ofc the youtubers all played as kassandra... and now i played as alexios and he is soooo much better that it's not even funny
I honestly think this game should’ve been a new IP due to the fact that this game is way to early in the timeline to have an game that doesn’t break lore. I think that this would have been much better received if it was a new IP. Just my two cents.
It's a continuation of how the Creed actually started. Which is why there isn't much "Assassin" as the others do. But... I do agree with you.
@Matt Mercer's Stunt Double except the parkour, stealth, DLC's that relate it to the early assassins, Pieces of Eden, etc...
@Matt Mercer's Stunt Double Did you even bother playing it? Cuz it sounds like you haven’t... the Cult of Kosmos are the precursors of what would later be known as the Templars. The Atlantis arc gives us a lot of modern day lore and we learn a lot about the Isu and the pieces of Eden. It seems like Ubisoft finally knows where they want to take the modern day story instead of giving it 15 minutes of screentime per game.
@Matt Mercer's Stunt Double there's nothing gameplay wise that's assassin's creed but the story does have a lot of AC I like odyssey but I don't like it as an AC Game
wtf is ip?? english is not my primary language so im kinda lost
The cultist ship’s “cheese” we’re also present in Black Flag for those that didn’t know ;)
Assassin's Creed Odyssey was my 2nd AC game and also my favourite. I've played 150 hours now, finished the story and the cultist questline. I love the world, the combat but more than anything I love the characters. Getting to meet historic characters like Socrates was so fun. Now im trying to get all achievements.
Aqua, Origins loading screen was black too
This channel is like the CinemaWins of video game commentary and I appreciate it
After playing Valhalla made me realize how good Odyssey is.Make another Odyssey with...
Valhalla weak points finisher animation.
double assassination two blades not needed like unity.
Tree parkour in large Forrest like the way AC 3 did it. Add double triple counter/parrying finishing animation.
sort cuts in and out of buildings like AC3 it had auto animation adds a little extra Parkour element.
Crowd blending same as AC 2 only need 2 npc to blend.
Having tombs/caves Parkour puzzles AC 2 brotherhood and revaluation style.
Make the world feel more alive is going to need being able to interact with more npc even if the dialog is simple like red dead 2 being albe to talk to people having small conversation gathering information.
Hunger system like san andreas giving more reason to visit towns and city / looting/stealing/buying food.
This is one of my favorite games
This game was a “put it on mute, listen to a podcast and turn my brain off while I complete it” one after I finished the 3 main quest lines and never played the DLC (or DLCs, im not sure if they even made any actually
I got to ~90% and while I gave up on chasing all the ‘?’ markers out of boredom, I still love running around the beautiful setting of ancient greece
The same goes for origins, except I was way more invested in that storyline