A Defense of 'Assassin's Creed: Odyssey'
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Many say that AC Odyssey is bland, boring, and pointless. I say that, while certainly too big for its own good, it's actually one the most expansive and impressive open world adventure RPGs in recent memory. In today's video, I, Luke Stephens, will try to explain why I think this game is really great and why you should give it a shot.
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If you're not spending all your time being like "This isn't Assassin's Creed" and instead just enjoying the epic grandiose adventure that it is, then yes Odyssey is fantastic. I've replayed it quite a few times now.
As a person who had never played an assassins creed game before odyssey I was incredibly bored after the first 3 hours.
The storytelling is silly even if you ignore the AC. There's A LOT of joke quests that are just absolute nonsensical drivel. That same kind of drivel even gets into the main missions every now and then.
I actually quite agree. Obviously it isn't really the "fault" of gamers when the game is called Assassins Creed. But yes, if forgotten and just played for what it is, Odyssey is quite good. I don't really enjoy the "tone" of the game that much and the overall voice acting (besides Kassandra) is not up to par. Other than that, the game is simply too bloated (even if it doesn't reach Valhalla levels) but quite enjoyable.
Yeah i just donât like the game, nothing to do with it being a heavy deviation from the formula.
Itâs not that itâs not assassins creed itâs that all these recent assassin creed games are painfully boring and generic, clunky feeling character models, boring combat the list goes on
For me, leaving Kephallonia for the first time was the same as leaving your first planet on No Man's Sky, truly magical.
Or jumping off the cliff with the glider in Breath of the Wild.
Graphics are the best bit of the game
Never played assassins creed and seen this on game pass after being bored of the few games I donât stray from⊠definitely not disappointed at all, I just left kephallonia myself and when the Ubisoft logo popped up with the assassins creed odyssey sign I was like âyooooâ thinking to myself how was this essentially the main story intro⊠then I saw the rest of the map unlocked and my jaw dropped. Beyond excited to get deep into this game.
â@@levihalfpenny5204 I'm 30 hours in and haven't unlocked like 10% of the map. Holy shit that map is huge.
You're a casual.
To add just one more point: In Odyssey, it feels like the people who made the game were actually totally passionate about the world they were recreating. And they put a real heart and soul into the game. You can tell it's a labor of love.
Also, the sea shanties in Greek. Unforgettable.
Thats why i loved the main game. The fate of Atlantis dlc tho, that was Just a cashgrab repetitive slug
@@lucasleite2092 agree lol
Yeah I had that same feeling with Origins (Odyssey as well). Both games feel like the world has a lot of love put into it. Origins even had the history explained mode. I loved both games and think Odyssey is the superior evolution of Origins and fixes most problems with that game. Yes Odyssey isn't really AC and that's my only problem with it as well as missing more possibilities for stealth play. Valhalla was just unbearable though. An awful story with awful characters. Throughout the entire story I was thinking why am I doing this? Why are they conquering England? To upgrade their small shitty village? And the worst thing is that it doesn't feel like you're conquering England. Towns like York feel lackluster and I completely miss the grandiose scale of the Roman architecture with the inferior english architecture around it. Eivor literally has no personality and it doesn't help that after 3 missions everyone throughout England knows who Eivor is and greet him as a superhero. Lastly they get the entire concept of vikings wrong. They are way too peaceful for them to be vikings. Vikings were raiders, murderers, rapers and enslavers. They took everything and burned down what was left. If that doesn't make for a good protagonist then don't make them the protagonists. They could have easily done a 'the last kingdom' like storyline with a viking who switched sides. I just couldn't get through the game and it took me over half a year to finish the base game whilst Origins and Odyssey I had finished in 1-2 months maximum.
And also in origins
@@nielsvanheteren Vikings were not just murderers, there was a lot of migration of farmers and the like to the middle of England - it was a large section of them that were raiders, but not all of them
I'm a 73-year-old Slovak. I've been playing this game for a really long time and about 7 times since the beginning. I have to emphasize that this game is perfect for old players. I play everything the game has to offer and I still really enjoy it.
Kind regards, Milan
As a young player and the opposite end of the spectrum , I love the new games I love the old games too they open the world to the other games, the dlcs are perfect if you have time Itâs just so fun Iâve play for 4 years and still havenât discovered everything, they go at a quick pace but itâs perfect for my type, they give you a fun tutorial of the fighting system.
Thatâs AWESOME at your age your playing games like thisâŠGod bless you and your family sir, Rock on
Man, of the aspects I loved the most is how they did recreate the Mediterranean shores; the water, the villages, with absolute realism.
Imagine Assassin's Creed in Slavic world!
Hello Slovak. I am Slovenian. I agree. But I am not old ,I'm only around 40.
It's incredible they literally build almost all of Ancient Greece with a huge open world map. The atmosphere in this game is amazing, that really immerse you especially when you enter a big city like Athens. Graphics and details are incredible. I really enjoyed the main story and historical figures as side characters. The map is so huge I spent months to completely finish the game. If this game wasn't tied with Assassin's Creed franchise, but a game of its own it would probably get much more praise.
It's not Google Earth : Greece, but there are times when I see a clip of someone playing the game and I can tell where they are just based on a mountain or a cliff face. Obviously it's not as big as the real place, but it has the main features.
@@garrick3727 Of course it's shrinked to a playable size, but still enormous. I think its one of the biggest maps in gaming. A single player game open world even bigger than some mmo worlds without any region downloading.
If it had a different title than assassins creed it would be very more unpopular, Ubisoft used the title of assassins creed to get the popularity of the community
@@EaNasirSellsBadCopperNGL Yes. Instead of making this a part of Assassin's Creed franchise they should've gone a new IP route. A new historical action/adventure. It would have been much more praised and there would be no more AC comparisions to previous games. Just look at Ghost of Tsushima and how successful it became.
My opinion thatâs what the new assassinâs creed game style shoulda been. A brand new IP, I liked the game style of both games personally. That being said I just believe the linear stealth based is a bit more fitting for an assassin game or open world without RPG elements then a rpg game.
I put over 100 hours into Odyssey and enjoyed every damn minute of it.
Me Too
Enjoyed the first 60 hrs, hated the last 20 hrs trying to grind to lvl 50 in order to beat the last boss
@@hughjaenus2235 If you just enjoy the side quest and the little details and the story in it, you wouldn't be bothered by having to farm to that level
@@eclipse_ed_32 I wasn't invested in the story, personally i think it was the worst AC story yet. The things that kept me interested in finish the game were things like exploration. Side story wise i think the quests were repetitive, there were only few good ones.
I have over 1000 hours with the game. I enjoyed every minute of it
I put 100+ hours into Odyssey and I was one of the guys who put it down after an hour the first time I played it. Gave it another try like 2+ years later and was glued. The side stories have consequences and different outcomes. I seriously loved this game.
Odyssey defenitely takes some time to grow on you. I had the same issue i put it down after 3 hours , but when I gave it a proper chance i literally couldnt put it down for almost 200 hours
I did the same thing. I played it last year for about an hour or two and got bored. Iâm so glad I gave it another chance.
Same thing happened to me with Origins. Put it down after a few hours then went back many years later and absolutely loved it.
"The side stories have different consequences and outcomes"
You are actually a plague involving anything with Assassin's Creed. You're supposed to go into the past and explore memories that are solid and foundational, hence whole the point of the game - not get to 'choose' your own direction.
Sad how my favourite game series got ruined by a bunch of disgusting normies.
@@redpineapple1527 if we have no choice and everything is predetermined why even play? im not judging someoneâs preference, but i know many agree we can alter our choices and arrive at a somewhat similar outcome.
Id rather not go on videos of games i dont like and post negative comments but thats just me. Ironic use of the word plague
I have literally thousands of hours in Odyssey, still play it almost every day. I just love Ancient Greece, love the beauty of this game, the tone of the game is very fun and light and it doesn't take itself too seriously. Also you can learn a lot about Ancient Greece just observing people work, looking at the food you find at the market. They recreated Athens as close to how it was as possible, worked with archaeologists and historians to make it look and feel like you're really there.
The combat system is great and if you know how to build your character you can literally become a god, just a killing machine and it's satisfying.
The side quests are fun, some are funny, some are more serious but they never feel boring.
I understand that it is not the "classic" AC, like AC 2 type game but I think it's better, I hope we get more of this.
I appreciate getting a game in this particular time period - the peloponnesian war. Itâs exceptionally rare that games touch that.
Thousands of hours? How
I want more of this too, that's why i loved Immortals Fenyx RIsing too, it was made from the same team, and is awesome, and i want another assassin's creed like this!!!
The only complain i have is that its maybe to big.
Especually AC Games i like more focused
Please do not learn ANYTHING historical with this game. This game is a balatant and malicious work of historical revisionism. There is NOTHING historically accurate in this game.
I fell in love with ancient Greece of AC Odyssey. It feels like going on a vacation for me, honestly. I liked sailing around, doing side quests, meeting historical figures, listening to music. I could almost smell the sea breeze and feel the sun on my skin as I was just exploring the world. I just vibe with it. As for Valhalla - it never feels like a vacation, it feels like a damn routine. It's a shame, cause I'm all in for norse mythology, vikings era, sagas and everything. The single thing I enjoyed in Valhalla the most is music, since they worked with Einar Selvik of Wardruna. But even the music gets painfully repetitive sometimes :(
You just described my experience exactly word by word. So much i took my sweet time in the game n snapping pics like a tourist assassinđthe scenery etc all felt real. You can tell the devs really put their heart n commitment to the game, honoring the history n interwoven with theirs.
Odyssey is my first game to play n this is my first time starting AC franchise n I'll be playing other AC games as wellđ„
I feel exactly the same! Playing it right now and already planning a trip to Greece haha
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Agree 1000%, I adored Odyssey but detested Valhalla, the only AC game I didnât complete.
Agreed.
Even if I'm playing another game, I'll sometimes fire up Odyssey just to run around in the world, maybe do a conquest battle, maybe snap a few cool screenshots.
I am an AC fan but I also loved Odyssey. I loved the setting but I also loved the side quest and characters. I really liked the one with Khloe and her clay friends. It was really solid and made me tear up.
Yeah the one with Khloe was cute. And that romantic story on Mykonos :) Felt like I was there, in Greece. MEMORIES :)
same i love killing the cult of cosmos its as well cool the entire game is grate
@@Alexminecrafter1 i like how if you're just exploring and you randomly find a cultist you can just kill them. Feels very immersive than having to select the specific mission.
@@hazelcrisp true:)
I've not played in a while but I never met Khloe but I've done a lot.
Something really cool in Odyssey, it let's you play in exploration mode if you select it. Its where you actually have to ask for directions and follow context clues to find the missions/quests. It will put the clues in the UI where you can bring them up if you don't remember what the npc said. It has you engaging with the landscape and map, and I found it added a lot to the experience
More games need that type of option
So true
Especially if you donât realize that you can zoom in the map lol đ€Ą
This should just be a standard feature in all games. I prefer figuring things out for myself, interacting with NPC's for directions or clues, and experiencing more of the world than just navigating a boring interface of icons to save time. I get that people are busy and maybe don't have the time to sink into a game like that, but who says you have to beat the game in your hour or two after work? Small progress is still progress.
Besides that, at least having the option so that those who want to save time or play efficiently can, but design the game to also allow those of us who want that depth of exploration to have it too. The ONLY reason they wouldn't do that is because the effort to profit ratio wouldn't be as high, which I don't think is an issue with Odyssey.
Facts! I appreciate that it did this. Bought yesterday I'm having a blast
I never felt ONCE i was grinding in Oddysey, if you explore and do side quests you'll maintain a good level. And these sidequests are really impressive. Some of them lead into OTHER smaller side quests its insane
Yeah rushing main story is not how the game is meant to be played there is so many systems you won't interact with if you only do main story and the side quest are honestly better than the main quest sometimes though the main quest is amazing as well. I love how some of the islands have whole questlines like in Mykonos or Euboea that can end sadly or happily depending on your choices. I honestly like ac odyssey better than witcher 3 in almost every aspect the combat, the traversal, the music, the skill tree and progression, the world itself and the protagonist. Its has some of the most satisfying progression I have had the pleasure of experiencing in an rpg. They balanced short term and long term progression perfectly imo.
There was no grind for me either I can't really see how someone can play this game and not get sidetracked for hours doing sidequests and exploring. It'd be like starting skyrim than only focusing on main quest never deviating from your course when theres a whole world out there for you to explore.
The biggest benefit for odyssey is the fact that the side quest and side content is actually fun. It never felt like I was grinding or filling out a checklist. Something that I do feel in Valhalla
What? The forts and quests are all copy and pasted dude
@@anotherhappylanding4746 Those are mainly optional side missions not really a side quests, side quests are those longer ones with a small unique story behind them. Repeatable side missions are just there for additional XP/resource farming just like player created quests that you can download.
Wait, what? I love Odyssey but it frequently presents you with actual checklists, especially when clearing forts. Kill Captain, Loot Treasure, Free Captive, etc. Valhalla did away with that, and made everything a lot more organic by expanding the pulse/Odin Sight.
@@bizmonkey007 Yeah but those have nothing to do with side quests, they are simply optional objectives for completionists or if you want to get some additional XP. Ostrakas are kinda only things worth grabbing if you see one as they give you new engravings when you solve the clues about its location.
@@Winland88
Theyâre optional except the average player will most likely clear dozens of them (or more) during their playthrough. If you get a bounty and donât want to pay, then youâre going to one of these forts. If you want to trigger one of the massive battles between Athens and Sparta, then youâre going to be seeing more than a few of these forts. If youâre trying to kill a Cultist, chances are youâre going to one of these forts. And they are baked into the main quests as well. When you go to kill Elpenor, for example, his decoy is in one of these forts. These forts are a big part of the gameplay loop, plain and simple.
I loved AC odyssey and couldn't believe it. I've played since brotherhood and quit the series shortly after black flag. I picked up odyssey because it was super cheap and was stunned by how great it was. The game was a little slow for the first 10 - 20 hours but after that the world opened up. Getting you're ship and sailing from island to island solving each ones stories was absolutely epic.
Same exact timeline for me with AC games
Same story for me. Stopped after black flag, enjoyed till ac brotherhood and came back to try odyssey and was blown away.
Same here. I played all of them up until Black flag. I played Origins and Odyssey and I loved them both.
The DLC for Odyssey is some of my favorite DLC in gaming.
I've been playing since the original game came out, and Odyssey dethroned AC2 as my favorite. I like the science fiction aspect of Assassin's Creed, always have, and felt like Odyssey was a great blend. I enjoyed the gameplay and the world. The combat was pretty good (I allow series to evolve, they didn't need to keep it the way it used to be, and it was getting old anyway). It's a darn good game. Not without its flaws, but still very good.
If you're into history, the narrated historical tour of Greece that allows you to navigate is worth the cost of admission alone. What an incredible and surprising addition to an already solid game. It would be nuts in VR and could even be used as a study-tool for history classes.
It'd be great if all Assassin's Creed games implemented the same sort of historical exploration/explanation mode.
I saw the hate this game got and avoided it at launch but picked it up when it was on sale at GameStop a few years ago. I got a few hours into the game and my first thought after turning it off was âwait why did people hate this?â Maybe itâs me not growing up with Assassins Creed or something like that but man I had fun playing this game. Iâm actually doing a second play through right now.
Itâs really only cause itâs called assassins creed if this trilogy didnât have that name they would be highly beloved
If you play this game and pretend it doesnât have the Assassinâs Creed name attached to it, Odyssey is not bad on its own.
Yep, everytime i see this type of conversation i say the same thing, if Ubi named this shit anything else, good, it's a great game, open world may be a bit bloated, and quests sometimes kinda cringe, but in general it's fun.
The momen you put "AC" on it, you will have to be an actual AC and this shit ain't it.
I thought it was quite bad especially as a game on its own tbh... (first AC game I've ever played btw), there wasn't really that much to like honestly.
Great graphics, fun combat and pretty landscapes/cities. But terrible quests, boring story, repetitive side content that gets soo tiring especially around the 30-40 hour mark. Unlikeable characters, except for Kassandra. And I almost forgot the awful level scaling...
This game felt like every other open world semi rpg game I had ever played before. Really nothing special. It's fun, but tedious
Having played all the other AC games now, it's definitely the least memorable of the bunch to me.
The naming argument is always going to annoy me. It's just a name. It's a title on a box. Call me crazy, but a game should be judged on the merits of it's gameplay, not on it's name. DarkSiders made some pretty fundamental changes with each new game, finally ending in an isometric ARPG, and no one suggested along the way that they should change the name because the gameplay changed. It's still a part of the AC universe, it's still pushing the story forward however slowly, and it still contains most of the same elements. There are just more ways to play these games now than the extremely narrow way they had before.
@@kowxley1793 Odyssey was your first AC? Thatâs sad to hear.
@@spyderhuntz Yea it was, didn't know anything about AC at the time, I still played the hell out of it, 70 hours because I was curious for the story, but I didn't think it was great.
Clocked in 100+ hours on this game. My only regret with the main story is that there were no further relationship with your sibling deimos afterwards. I tried my best to save deimos and it would have been great to see the siblings relationship develop further like going through the DLC together.
I saved my whole family only problem is after that dinner cut scene they just become part of your crew and that's it.
@@brandonpick1486 yeah I was disappointed.
@@brandonpick1486 it wouldâve been nice if they all just stayed in a house in the country where you could visit and have conversations
You can add em to ship and at times they do have a few scripted lines ⊠or maybe thatâs just the first time I forget
i have a habit of completing side missions before completing the main story in nearly almost every game iâve played, so there wasnât really a grind at the end game for me.
i have over 150 hours on odyssey and i loved every second of it. kassandra is one of my favourite characters ever ngl
Same whether its and AC game, GTA etc I will do some main quest, then a whole bunch of side quests , then back to the main story. Im still working on Origins and I havent really felt like its a grind or boring. Now with Black Flag I was absolutely annoyed with the amount of boring ass tailing sections there were.
Me too! Doing it for the witcher 3 rn
Itâs the best way to do any game like this. Ensures you arenât underpowered at any point and learns you the combat etc before the game gets heavy.
you prefer Kassandra over Bayek?
As a fellow Odyssey fan, I highly encourage you to revisit Forbidden West at some point. For all the reasons you say to not judge this game for what it's not, I say the same for HFW. You compared it to ER, which was fashionable given the timing, but ultimately unworthy of your typically circumspect judgement.
For about 90% of the game, HFW was everything I wanted and more from a sequel. I wasn't fully sold on the final story choices, but that doesn't change how truly breathtaking I found the bulk of the game to be. First, it was the most beautiful game I've played in 2022, still. I expect only Ragnarok will have a chance at knocking it down. Second, the side quests had a depth and care that is...simply the best in open world games to date. Everything that I loved about quest design from Witcher 3 and Odyssey and Skyrim and Dragon Age... this did it. Each story was different. Not hunting for 10 sharks or 5 bear skins. Deep, uniquely written side content that seemed almost UNIVERSALLY mo-capped. I lost my mind over how much custom mocap and voice acting there was. I've played about 95% of all available content and I only found two side quests events that didn't have some level of unique mo-capped conversation design. Just the most fantastic amount of love and care.
In terms of combat, HFW made some choices that I think made for a more balanced difficulty and methodology, but made it harder for you to cheese your way through by spamming traps and corruption arrows. Do I love that? No, because I really liked cheesing my way through mass robot slaughter with traps and bombs. But that change doesn't take away from what the game is, what it accomplishes, and how much I enjoyed it.
I loved Odyssey, and I love HFW. Give it another chance, and see it for what it is.
I actually kinda liked the Atlantis DLC only for the fact that it explained why you were fighting cyclopese and minotaurs in the main game: the Isu were experimenting on humans and the pieces of Eden that survived the destruction of Atlantis caused those creatures to show up. It added to the lore and history of the Isu in a way that I thought was very creative and blended well with the ancient Greek theming. It certainly has other flaws, but the bits of lore that it added were a welcome addition imo.
The actual quality of the dlc isn't great though. The acting and animation are clunky and awkward and the story is pretty boring.
@@Memu_ just like the base game, cool, so nothing new...
@@hughjaenus2235 They were fine in the base game at best. The dlc is even worse.
I couldnât agree more, the only thing that annoyed me through out the DLC was the parts where you had to play with Layla
odyssey is way better than valhalla
I just started my second playthrough after a few years. Its still great. Odyssey got me back into AC. Ive played almost all the ac games, it is by far my favorite. The fact we can experience as close to an accurate Helenistic Greece as possible is enough to be a gem. I had been waiting decades for a game like this.
My favorite Assassin's Creed game by a mile. I've played every single major installment in the series, but this is the only one I was totally blown away by.
Now that I have finally finished Syndicate I can say the same. Well I didnÂŽt play Liberation but I donÂŽt know if that counts, I played the ordinary AssassinÂŽs Creed 3 with Connor. ThatÂŽs definitely the most boring and made me quit the franchise until Origins came out. I obviously should have stayed for Black Flag, but I learned that years later.
Really wish you talked about story creator mode. The attempt they made at letting us design quests is remarkable Imo, and I really hope they will introduce this feature again in future games.
I honestly love this game. Yes it isnât like the traditional AC games BUT as an open world game that takes place in Ancient Greece I love it especially since the history and mythology of AC Odyssey is incredibly intriguing. Another reason I like it is because my family originated from Greece so thatâs my other reason.
I took the time to enjoy this game to the fullest. When I finished, I was amazed by the hours I spent, and I enjoyed playing every single of them. 22,000 killings, 430 mercenaries, 700+ ships sunk...
I also loved the two DLCs, Hades and Atlantis. I think they are a great addition to the story. Finishing Atlantis was to me like if Kassandra would have joined the Izu and immortality.
I agree. I spent my time playing this game through quarantine and it blew my mind while giving me an alternate full world to life in. The characters were so bright and the gameplay so tight and the choices shocked me with their long-term consequences
That's exactly when I played through it... NG+ imediatly after.
I got this game at the beginning of quarantine and played every bit of Content I could get out of it. Itâll always hold that special place in my heart because it help me get lost in that time
Odyssey was my first AC game and honestly, I love it to bits. The 'grind' aspect never even occurred to me, I was so excited to explore the world that I ended up always being over levelled for the main story hehe. Going from *that* to Valhalla... Just lukewarm :/
I actually enjoyed the Valhalla side quests. They were a fun relief from all the grinding. Funn little events and stories that you could just live through. One favourite was propably the lady trapped in the tower. Turned out that it was actually a kinky role playing thing with the woman and "The knight in shining armour". If you misred the situation and attacked the man, he would leave, you would offer to guard the lady and another "savior" would come to help the damsel in distress. Then there was the warrior with a battle axe stuck to the forehead who had "some difficulties" to understand the situation he was in. You could leave the axe or remove it, which would of course kill him.
Valhalla had a lot of these comical moments scattered around that I enjoyed immensely.
When i played Odyssey the first time, I was coming from Black Flag and Rogue. I took a long break because the removal of naval combat was a massive turn off for me. The mess that was unity on launch didnât helpâŠ
When I heard odyssey brought back naval combat and was in Ancient Greece, I was sold! As a history lover, Ancient Greece is a gold mine.
For some reason when I first played it, I guess I got overwhelmed from the map and massive changes to combat compared to AC:4. I put it down for quite some time but around a year later I decided to give it another go and thatâs when it CLICKED! I loved it.
Kassandras voice actor was amazing and you really start to feel attached, which helped a lot with immersion.
I realized the seemingly âbloatedâ loot system was actually really fun and made new loot always exciting. I never knew when Iâd find the next amazing dagger for my build.
Ended up playing primarily assassin build due to the amazing abilities for chaining in the game and quick movement made stealth fun(Valhalla made the parkour worse, the character moves slower, and the abilities suck in comparison⊠massive downgrade). Heroâs strike was god tier with my pirate armour full heath crit build. Damage was insane.
An experience Iâll never forget and honestly one of my favourite games in recent times. Too bad Valhalla shit the bed and made you sleep in it. Playing rn and what a downgrade.
Odyssey is the most beautiful game Iâve ever played and is my most favorite of all 3 new AC games, but it should be called Warriorâs Creed, not Assassin lol.
This game is in my top 10 of all time! The side quests, exploration, sense of adventure and freedom every time I board my ship that I customized and upgraded btw is amazing. The NPC's in this game are mind blowing there is a whole economy. I've come across wine, sandal, bread, clay, dye, makers, butchers, marble miners, sculptors, artists, politicians, and you can see the whole process of each craft played out. side stories with historical figures. They put so much work into all that extra stuff that there is an entire mode where you go in and learn the history of all the crafts, temples, statues, cities, etc... fully narrated and acted out by a guide and then real photos are added in to the lesson to compare and show more history. If you are an ancient history buff this game (and origins) is amazing.
Facts. Also the same reason I loved origins. These two games are really well made. Canât say the same about Valhalla which is a shame cause it came from the same guys that made black flag and origins
I wish this you could dress up in a disguise like Fallout New Vegas. Like if I'm wearing all Spartan armour I should be able to walk into a spartan fort and not get attacked...missed opportunity.
It's actually my first AC game I've ever played and it holds special place in my heart. It doesn't matter what people say about it. I enjoyed the game so much even after 150hrs.
Same here! I love this game and Origins too but can't get into any of the other AC games.
@@B-A-L Only AC i didn't play is the first one. Besides that I actually enjoyed III, Black Flag, Unity and Syndicate. Origins is also top tier especially in terms of world building and characters. Valhalla on the other hand is actually so bad for me even though world itself is pretty beautiful.
@@xpaprykk4100I actually agree with you, I find those games really appealing and easy to digest
I love that you made this video. AC Origins is good and Valhalla is ok but I love this game. The world is stunning and so interesting and I love the Ancient Greek aesthetic. The culture and the history to me personally is the best in the series. Itâs my guilty pleasure I always go back to.
Iâm somewhere around 10 hours in and absolutely love this this game so far. The story is awesome, the combat is awesome, itâs just an awesome game. I love how you can level your character and equipment up. Saying that Iâve never really loved the ac games. The last one I played that I really liked was black flag.
As a Greek I really enjoyed this game. Visiting places where Iâve visited in real life but seeing them how they might have potentially looked thousands of years back is very special and unique. The game is beautiful obviously the combat is quite good although I have some complaints and the story is quite decent as well. By no means a perfect game but very fun and enjoyable
While it might not be the most Assassins Creed of the Assassins Creed games, the overall world and feeling attached to it was so great that it convinced me to study Ancient Greek.
Actually id argue its the most Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed has ever been.
The modern day is the most important aspect of the series. And aside from AC1 and AC3 it has the most amount of modern day sections out of the whole franchise iirc.
@@brandonpick1486 IÂŽm the complete opposite. I have always thought that the modern day segments get in the way of the AssassinÂŽs Creed experience. Like, fine if you start and end on that note but not even that is needed imo. They can cover that in a book or something. To me, itÂŽs like 2 stories or worlds that try to matter to each other when itÂŽs obvious it doesnÂŽt work both ways. I mean, the modern day content clearly doesnÂŽt affect the historical, how could it? ItÂŽs a programmed interpretation of history made by the animus, sort of. I guess it made some sense as long as they kept Desmond but now... ThatÂŽs actually one of the reasons I quit the franchise for years after playing AC 3. It took a complete revamp with Origins to get me back. The best decision I ever made, that one and Odyssey are complete gold. Since then I have played them all though.
@@brandonpick1486Actually untrue, brotherhood has more content in the modern day. You could also argue that AC3 has the longest modern day. Most of odysseyâs modern day are glorified cutscenes.
I only stumbled across Luke's channel recently and I noticed something about him that is different than other youtubers. He is surprisingly a lot more normal and fairer than other youtubers and a lot more articulate. Nothing against other youtubers but he expresses his perspective and the reason behind it. Sometimes his takes drives me up the wall because they always contrast mine like Valhalla but he is fair and he always explains why he feels that way and not just it's bad for the sake of being bad. I can see why Ubisoft continuously sends him stuff. They want to genuinely win him over as opposed to strong arming him into giving an insincere review about their game.
they dgaf lol
At the same time he's wildly inconsistent in his critiques. For example, a lot of the things that he praises about Odyssey (which he really likes) are also in Valhalla (which, according to him "sucks"). One is apparently a great game and the other garbage, despite them having practically identical gameplay mechanics and features (and both having shitty writing). There are a few tweaks here and there, but to a great degree they are essentially the same gameplay experience in two different settings. He may express the reasons behind his perspective, but he is so wildly inconsistent in his views that it's difficult to take his opinions seriously.
@@thanekrios3211 heâs pandering to his audience because they freaked out at him for loving origins and hating valhalla
@@thanekrios3211 While Odyssey and Valhalla are very similar experiences, that's not the point of the video. The argument that Luke is making, is that Odyssey is much better quality wise. It really is one of the best RPGs to come out. Have you seen those Powerful builds that people make in the game? Odyssey also has choices which actually impact your story. Valhalla has none of that.
So, I would assert that Valhalla has everything that Odyssey does poorly, and none of what it does great.
@@natestadler2352 After spending a ridiculous amount of hours in both games, I can only say that I disagree with both your premise regarding Luke's video and your opinion of the games themselves.
Thank youuuuu, I thought I was losing my mind for how much I liked this game. I watched my sibling play Assassins Creed for a good chunk of my childhood, but Odyssey was the first Assassins Creed game I played myself, and I genuinely love it. To hear it compared so highly against Red Dead Redemption II is so validating, and its just generally good to hear good commentary on the Assassins Creed franchise itself. I've now completed Origins, Valhalla, and finally Mirage, but Odyssey- Even if I may be biased- is still probably my favorite. I do think it's a good RPG game, it's just not a good *Assassins creed game*, but even then, it still holds up in the lore, and I even noticed a possible easter egg to Kassandra in Mirage. Because of my love of Kassandra in itself, the quest in Valhalla where you meet Kassandra might be the only real memorable moment in that game, other than Ivarr and Fenrir for me. (I have opinions on the entirety of the additions of realms in Valhalla, but this comment's already long enough, not to mention a year after this video was posted) Nonetheless, Thank you. A commenter on AC games that I can actually rely on for a good opinion.
That was a cross over when you met Kassandra in Valhalla an in another side quest you meet roshan you help her out an she will give you a hidden one outfit
I absolutely love this game, iâm probably ~25 hours into it and am having a great time. The map design is outstanding and Iâm constantly stunned by the gameâs beauty. However, a couple bones I have to pick with it: 1, the game feels very grindy at times, and itâs absolutely impossible to just go through the main story in one go, a constant stream of side quests are a must. 2, while the map was incredibly beautiful and awesome to explore, the tiny scale of everything really threw me off. Big cities only being a couple hundred meters away from each other feels so weird. I wouldâve liked to feel more accomplished after each adventure, rather than just a short 2 minute horse ride and a ton of synchronization points. Iâd 100% sacrifice such a large quantity of places to explore for a more grand adventure experience, but all around amazing game đđ»đđ»đđ»
bayek and kassandra are so close to my heart they were so well written
Appreciate this so much!! Odyssey is the only game I've played through more than once (aside from the Witcher 3), it's an incredibly immersive game, I loved getting to run around in a place that wasn't covered in freakin' fog everywhere everywhere but instead it was colorful, and it was full of emotional range. I loved it!
I honestly think Odyssey is better than witcher 3 as an open world game. Don't get me wrong, RPG and storyline wise witcher 3 is better. Odyssey has an easy jump in and playability. It has verticality and is absolutely beautiful. Combat in witcher is tactical, but in Odyssey u can just madly rush into enemies, use stun and Spartan kick their asses.
@@cockybhai3638 đđđđđđđđđđđđ you must be joking buddy
@@doritococo i mean each to their own i guess, but i have to agree about one thing though, Witcher 3 had better story, Odyssey is better on gameplay
Same. I still haven't finished it. Been playing it since launch
@@doritococo joking? he is 100% accurate... odyssey open world is far better than witcher 3 and thats a fact
Absolutely love this game. The world, the music, Kassandra, the dialogue, the incredible scope. It isn't perfect, but it is one of my favorite open worlds.
If you don't do the side content in Odyssey, you are playing the game wrong. The designers puts an unbelievable amount of effort into a world that is both huge and feels very much alive. You're SUPPOSED to explore the world and do the side content. I never had any problem keeping up with the level requirements because there's so much to DO in this vast open world. It doesn't have the philosophical or emotional depth of The Last of Us or The Witcher 3, but I find myself returning to this game because the world is so goddamn BEAUTIFUL it's just a joy to visit. It helped keep me sane during the pandemic and now I'm on my second playthrough and it's serving as a wonderful break from the dreary winter going on outside. It's better than going on vacation and sometimes I just want to boot it up and enjoy looking at the sea. I won't say the game makes you think, but the developers have made sure that it's always enjoyable, and I love the fact that you get to explore a world that actually existed thousands of years ago (except for the fantasy elements). Classical Greece is a fascinating and historically important setting, whereas Valhalla is set in medieval England, which holds little interest to me. Egypt during the Roman era is an interesting place, so I look forward to playing Origins as well.
Ubisoft is still adding content to this game FIVE YEARS later, ant it has procedurally generated quests and world events that mean you can keep playing it forever if you like, and that's something I might do. I've bought a lot of other games that I think are quite good, but I almost always feel like I'd rather spend my time playing this one instead.
I am glad this game is now getting a stronger reputation as the years go on. At the time when it cam out it was easily in my top 3 of all AC games and didn't understand the hate. After playing through again a couple of times it feels like one of the most symbiotic AC games. The 3 main story lines, the side quests and character arcs, the world, the mythology all link together so well it feels seamless. Unlike Valhalla (which I still really like) which had everything very segmented Odyssey feels like a complete game that almost purely exists within its own world. And the world feels living and breathing and always progressing which is a triumph considering the vast size of the map. You can pretty much go anywhere you want after the opening section (you might die) but nothing is really closed off. And Kassandra is one of my favourite main characters. Ok so maybe its not the greatest in regards to adding much to the overall AC storyline, but this makes it a better game on its own as its not constantly trying to tie back to the AC universe and can focus on what it did great.
Fantastic comment bro literally couldnât have said it better
I'm playing through the game right now and having a great time! I have over 40 hours in and I just look forward to playing more while I'm away.
ikr, i just keep looking into different stuff online and see what i've missed and what i could look forward to while playing it (of course no spoiler included) :D
@@wytheli Iâll be at work and looking up things like âwhen should i start this questâ or âwhat does Spear level 5 unlock?â
Great video! Assassins Creed Odyssey was my first game in the series, i was choosing between buying it and imortals phoenyx rysing, and im glad i chose odyssey! Its my favorite game of all time, i have never had so much fun, emotion and the feeling of adventure from any other game, the only way i can describe it is that it truly was an Odyssey. I truly feel like i made friends, foes and companions during that adventure, so much so that i 100% the game (including achievments), with 300 hours played. And it never felt like a chore, it was always fun, intriguing and by the end, even a little bit nostalgic. I guess it could have been the right game for the right period of my life but i truly think it is my favorite game of all time and an experience that i will remember forever.
The point when I started to enjoy Odyssey was when I read a summarized version of events of the actual book/poem of the Greek Odyssey.
After that I was blown away from the events that would happen in the game based on the book.
Also when I went to cities or Monuments I was in tourist mode.
To me, AC Odyssey is simply one of the rare few games set in the past but doesnât fall into the overused video game locations. Seems like most devs are hellbent on only setting games in medieval Europe, Japanese samurai, Caribbean pirate, or Norse viking inspired settings. We need more games set in antiquity! Thereâs so much untapped history/mythology that the fantasy practically writes itself.
Could you imagine an open world RPG set in Bronze Age Mesopotamia during its collapse, or during the Roman Kingdom before they incorporated their neighboring people? Itâs just familiar enough to recognize but distant enough to wow us
nah
I loved odyssey my most beloved memory in that game is a villa on top of a hill/plateau overlooking the sea, the architecture in the game is amazing. The atmosphere of
the game is great when you immerse yourself in the world. When u play a game try to be the character, youâll feel like you belong in multiple world
Dude I absolutely love your videos. I found you through this video and have been binge watching your content while playing odyssey, and I love the way you even pulled up a logical fallacy to âbe rightâ. I just love and appreciate that so much, you just seem like a dude I could genuinely be friends with so +1 sub!
In my teenage we payed attention to music. The others bought different music magazines and learnt about bands, members, etc. I never cared about the musicians just only the music itself (I like that or not). This attitude is still with me. For example I don't care an actor's or movie director's private life if I enjoy a movie. So I always see the product and how can I enjoy that. In this way I don't care who is published a game or how a game fits in its serie or other games in the genre. For me a game is good if it can pull me in its world, the tasks and the story is interesting and the control is logical and user friendly. In the AC serie the Black Flag is in the second, Odessey is in the first place for me. I don't care which is belong to which AC era I simply care I am pleased to play with and don't regret any minute to spending with them.
Note: simulator games are a little bit exeptions. They hasn't story or just a very thiny one but I like to play with them because they can pull me in. To sitting in a cockpit of a front-propellered plane or of a spaceship or in a cabin of a truck or train is can be remarkable. I think the key for that is to learn to enjoy the moment and don't rush. For example in Odessey I usually walk with my character and pay attention to every detail of the ancient greek world. I admire the buildings, the monuments, the clothes, the landscapes. I actually play it like a simulator: I control my character as a person could behave in that time. Could he/she run all along the greek world? No way. He/she could walk on foot and could use a horse for distance or in a hurry. I play the games in this way. And for more immersion I always turn off the backgroud music of a game. If you do that you can realize the sound of the wind as it moves the leaves on the trees, you can hear as your character step in the mud, the songs of the birds in the forest and the bugs in the grass. You cal hear different voices at day or night. And as the people talk in a city, the children are playing and laughing..
Peace
I do really enjoy Odyssey as a standalone Greek Mythology RPG. My biggest gripe with it this is that, for me at least, itâs not an Assassinâs Creed game. There is a different between supernatural mythology and science fiction. The Isu were not gods who ruled from Olympus or part of some wider religious mythology, they were simply a breed of more advanced humans with additional senses who garnered the human race into slavery. There are fantastical elements such as the apples of Eden and other objects of similar status, but it was all based in advanced technology. So, for me to straight up introduce magic into a series that never really had it is a strange choice. Again, I think Odyssey is a really good Greek Mythology RPG, but I think it fits poorly into AC as a whole.
The thing is.... The Isu enjoyed a state of advancement so far above and beyond the Greeks comprehension that the latter can't be blamed for deifying them.
After just completing the Korfu quests logging over 150 hrs with the main campaign playing as Kassandra. Itâs my favourite of the bunch. Immense!
In terms of roleplay, I play different builds with Alexios and Kassandra.
Alexios being a more typical warrior Spartan. More tanky, brute force and a bit of a lone wolf.
Kassandra being more cunning and tactical-minded assassin-hunter because I imagine she wouldnât be physically stronger than a lot of trained soldiers.
She also focuses more on relationships. Using tamed animals and calling her allies into combat.
Building her crew/ship. She would sink the ships rather than take on the boarding crew. Because thatâs more risk for her.
Alexios would board the ships and mow through all of the crew members.
I always joke to my friends "Assassin's Creed Odyssey is absolutely not my favorite Assassin's Creed game, but it's my favorite game." I think if Ubisoft had been brave enough to release this as it's own game and unconnected to the franchise it would have been insane.
Also something I don't think people touch on in Valhalla/Odyssey comparisons is that clearing the map is required in Valhalla in order to progress the main quest... but there are tons of zones you DON'T need to visit in Odyssey in order to beat the game. Pretty much most of the top half of the map could be ignored and you could still complete the three ending questlines.
If Ubisoft had just pitched this as "You're an ancient Greek demigod with godly powers on your own big adventure during the Peloponnesian War!" and not done the AC title (which they ended up doing with Immortals Fenyx Rising anyways), this would have been a huge hit in the gaming community.
Ironically I just started replaying this game! Its super dope!
Fallacy ... learning something new every day - 1:53
Introduction - 5:30
Quality and quantity - 7:13
Give the statue to the people! - 8:23
AC Valhalla - 9:57
XP boosts - 10:19
AC Valhalla side quests - 11:18
AC Odyssey side quests - 19:27
Differences between the side quests in these two games - 27:01
You know a game is good when you are having fun. - 27:43
Better PR - 33:20
Combat in AC Odyssey - 39:01
Supernatural - 39:35
Other games - 40:43
So, what is good in AC Odyssey? - 41:51
Prejudice - 43:26
AI - 44:23
Exploration - 45:00
Nominations for GOTY 2018 - 45:37
Hey king you dropped this đ
I played all of this, including the DLC's, it was epic. And a handy hint; this game is so much more fun and much more beautiful if you're just a little stoned lol
One of the best RPGs in recent times. I'm still playing it on occasion because nothing has come out since that has game play that is as fun. I would have tweaked the story a little with Myrrine and the First Blade mess. Myrrine would never have left Naxos. Given the first part of her arc after we find her, it would have been more in character for her to hatch a plan to pretend to want to get their house and citizenship back in order to expose the Cult King, and then promptly burned that house to the ground and returned to rule Naxos. She would have also been more likely to kill Nikolaus on sight than take him back, no mater what... Seriously, would she have ever given up her own rule for squalor in a hut in Sparta? From Military wife betrayed by her own husband to vagrant to pirate to ruler and then chose squalor in a place with a King that wanted to put her to death - and he was the good one. Great writing there...
Never knew this game needed any "defending". It was very well received.
It really doesnât. It received very high reviews on launch and sold well (10 million copies, I believe). It did receive a lot of criticism for the leveling system and the micro transactions.
Mostly from fans of the series. AC Valhalla has the most sales but is the most bashed of the series. AC3 was also the most sold for a long time and was regarded as the worst
Only fans and CZcamsrs bash it
The Ubisoft check came through so he needed to make a "Defending AC video". Then in 2 months he'll make another "Modern AC games suck guys!" then he gets another custom AC chair gifted to him (like the one in this very video) and the cycle starts again. Don't believe me? Just look at all of his AC videos.
Odyssey was reviewed favorably overall and has a Very Positive rating on Steam. It's just that a portion of the AC fanbase are incredibly vocal. People love to shit on Ubisoft and it's a huge trend with their games that fans love to shit on a new series entry, but by the time the next entry comes out, all of a sudden the older one was awesome and the newer one sucks ass. I'll use FC5 and 6 as an example. I remember seeing a lot of people dislike 5, but then 6 comes out and all of a sudden 5 was awesome and Joseph Seed was incredible. When 7 comes out, people will say about 6 "it had its flaws but it was actually a very fun update to the Just Cause formula and woah Gus Fring cameo"
My favorite game of all time really. I also hope you played the Korfu dlc. Adds a much needed epilogue to the game
Ending of Korfu made me kind sad, i mean it was the end of 240h+ "odyssey" and when the music kicked in(odyssey greek version is so good!) and the credits started to scroll i kinda wanted to start NG+. Its too soon for that but i will probably do NG+ after a year or so, just need to forget most of the stuff first.
That is the saddest thing Iâve ever heard but yo each their own ig âŠ
@@thegwynbleidd4202 I could not agree any more
Whatâs Korfu?
Played this game again yesterday (actually continued my 5th playthrough, after taking a break from the game of about 1,5 years).
Went to a Fort to clear it out, because it's always fun (more so than in it's 2 siblings). Killed a few guards while sneaking through the location, left the bodies where they fell.
It wasn't long until 2 other guards discovered them, and they were talking between them the usual stuff when they get alerted (someone is here, find them etc). I was nearby, hidden, they couldn't see me. The alert status ended, so one of them went to pick up one of the corpses and carry it away, like they always do. But before he picked it up, he said: "I'm sorry, my friend!"... Left me O_O...
And another instance. I was sneaking around another fort, targeting soldiers with arrows. One guard was alone, standing near a bridge. Shot an arrow on the bridge trying to make it run and hide, like they always do when being shot at, even if they were hit or not.
But I shot a bit too far, so the guard was only alerted by the sound. To my surprise, it went over to the arrow, bent over to it and mumbled to himself something like: "It's an arrow... but it doesn't look like one of ours. There's someone out here" then he went on alert status.
Now THAT level of detail, you encounter less and less nowadays, especially in this genre.
Out of this trilogy, Odyssey is the one that mostly stands out, and the one I love the most!
I may be a bit biased because I loved greek myths ever since I was a kid.
But for a huge open world with many copy-paste assets, look-alike NPC's, small repetitive boring side quests etc the game is also peppered with special care proof instances, and details you can only see (or hear) while getting lost in it's world, and actually playing it.
I always hoped the dev team behind it would do another title.... but AC Valhalla was done by the Origins team, and it showed, because combat and fort "liberating" were NOT fun.
Ubisoft seems to prefer their style, which is quite unfortunate...
And now the series moves on with other devs. Here's hoping the upcoming titles take a look back and see what made Odyssey fun to play, and don't repeat Valhalla's mistakes.
subbed. also, i think it was pretty cool that they didn't communicate those small details! i loved finding out all these small things, like i'm on dlc 3 and JUST figured out that if an arrow passes through fire it becomes a fire arrow.
Literally my favorite RPG next to Witcher 3. I've put over 500 hours into Odyssey and this video makes me want to re-download and do it all again.
I love this game dude. It feels like Black Flag in the sense that it gets away from the core of the original games. I could see where AC fans were mad, but as someone who just likes good RPGs, this game was awesome.
Fair enough Iâm not a big rpg fan Iâve played all the ac games besides like two or three games so the new rpg gameplay kinda bores me I like some rpg games like borderlands but for this game and Valhalla itâs just eh to me
@@ncrranger8449 it grows on u do side quests there alot of good ones it fleshes out the game
Then you clearly didn't understand black flag
@@stur3366 ur mom
@@princewillchukwujama1199 eh Iâm probably not gonna finish the main story Iâll do some side quest but Iâll probably get bored the few thing about borderlands that make me like it even though itâs a rpg arenât in odyssey but Iâll try it out some more
I finished Odyssey and gave up on Valhalla in 25 hours... Too boring, no target.
One thing I want to add is that the bounty system and its randomness made me sick. You can fight a very large fort and then the hunter appears with much more higher lvl and ruined my quest...
I know this video is from 9 months ago BUT I have something to say about it. It does have a REAL ENDING with credit titles at the end. Once you have done everything in Greece you have to go back to Khephalonia and right at the harbor there's a purple square where you should go and talk to a woman, this will take you on vacation to the island of Korfu, where you need to complete all the quests (3) and find all the Ostrakas and the treasure. Once this is done you will find the REAL ENDING where the Credits appear and you can close the story. In fact, don't akip the credits just fasta forward them and you'll have an extra cool cut scene. Cheers
I absolutely loved this game. I spent two months on this game and loved every minute.
I have 170 hours on this game. Loved every min. I will never understand the hate. Or why people keep saying it's not an Assassin's Creed game lol.
Any one who's says that the last 3 games aren't Assassin's Creed games. Clearly have no idea what Assassin's Creed is.
It really is a good game. Took me 4 separate times to get into it, on the 5 try I finally got it. This is game is underrated and itâs not that bad.
Ahahahha. This "good game" took you 5 tries to get into it.
@@murcielagoXO you are so funny! So much wit!
I absolutely loved Odyssey, I never got a crack at the DLC's but from what I've heard I didn't miss much, but damn, the base game is so damn good imo, Ancient Greece was a fantastic setting. my one critique for it was just from an experience I had that I remember not so fondly, there was a point in the main story where I was so under leveled, despite completing a whole lot of in world things for XP, I literally had to spend close to 5 or 6 hours just grinding constantly to even make the minimum level required to continue the main story, and yeah you might think, that's not so bad because there's fun side quests and stuff, but when you start running out of quests you're actually at the right level to complete and you just see the big red skulls by every quest indicating you will die if you try, and have to go about scouring every inch of the map for new quests within your level and you still need tons of XP to even continue the story, that's just overly grindy and not fun. It definitely sucked the joy out of the game for that 5 or 6 hour duration, but besides that one bad experience, and once back on track, it was awesome. I will say the supernatural elements, I really didn't mind that much, to be fair AC has always had a little bit of that, like is Minnerva talking to Ezio from beyond the grave really that much more grounded in reality than a Minotaur in Ancient Greece? At least it fits thematically, I would have an issue if they had like an Orc or hoardes of Goblins or something wild like that.
As someone who has played through every ac game, some more than once, odyssey and valhalla are great games. Its refreshing to not have the same formula and just play the game for what it is and not compare everything to the og era
Just got it, 70 hours in. Absolutely love it. Stunning huge open world. Never played an AC game, mostly Fifa. As newcomer to this kind of games I want more of this!
Then you might enjoy AC Origins, too.
@@timk4861 will try!
AC Origins is even better in my opinion at least story wise. I 100% completed it and don't regret it
@@hoguemusic9706 donât make me laugh the story may be good but itâs generic itâs a revenge story in a way your son died you join/make the creed kill ceaser
I have to admit the hidden one story is the best.
@@space4166 I still love Origins. Don't know why everything has to be super ultra original
For me, despite the ship stuff and the exploration, I felt like Odyssey was a backstep from Origins. I loved Unity despite the buggyness and enjoyed a lot of the missions, though I thought the story needed a bit more work. Considering Arno's real father was assasinated and we never go after Shay. I didn't enjoy anything in Syndicate other than the black box missions but with Origins I was stunned. When I heard it was going to be more of a "RPG" I was *extremely* disappointed as a fan of the early games, but Origins made me hopeful. The story of Bayek was interesting, seeing the beginning of the Hidden Ones, everything felt great. I didn't feel that Layla was the *best* new modern day character but at least she was somewhat interesting. All of that was killed for me by Odyssey. Layla became actually braindead, the story didn't feel super interesting, the side quests were actually pretty good and I enjoyed exploring, but I also hated not being able to one-shot assassinate enemies (which I think? they added something for it? I played at launch). Don't even get me started on the DLC, specifically the Darius one. Legacy of the First Blade ruined all the mystery surrounding Darius, the "first true Assassin" and the ending with the child and the pyramids made *NO* sense considering the Pyramids were already built by then. It honestly made my head hurt. But overall I don't think Odyssey was the worst (thats definitely Valhalla) but compared to Origins it definitely lowered my expectations.
Finished Origins, have about 70 hours in on Valhalla âŠand since Iâve grown bored with Valhalla, Iâm finally starting Odyssey tomorrow! I canât wait to go on this epic adventure for the very first timeâïž
I tried Origins , after discovering the pyramids i just didnt feel like playing anymore. Gave it another try like 6 months later , dropped it even faster.
I tried Oddysey, finished it and loved it. After doing so i thought i just didnt get to the good stuff with Origins , forced myself to play , sadly it just didnt click for me so just called it quits.
Valhalla arrived , i thought , oh it will be Oddysey but better... oh boy , i was so wrong... i got all the way to Lunden and just dropped it.
One thing i noticed is how they tried to mimick God of War with the over the shoulder camera and mid fight finishers... spongier enemies , that damn stun bar above hp... god of assassins warnarok. Tried it like 2 times more , didnt even bother getting to half where i was the first time , felt like a chore.
So i guess oddyssey really did have something special at least for me personally to make it stand out from the 3 and be worthy of sinking 2 playthroughs of almost 50 hours each in
I absolutely love Odyssey and yes it is an Assassin Creed game. It deals with Isu (the ones who came before ) who are set up in Assassin's Creed 2. That part of the lore deserves some love too
It has nothing to do with the assassin's though.
The Ones Who Came Before are exatcly what their name says. They are NOT gods, they do not live in Elysium or Tartaros or Atlantis, what Odyssey did is a mockery of The Ones Who Came Before, and Valhalla just took that mockery one step further.
@N7 Andy it influenced Valhalla's plot because they writers tried to salvage whatever the fuck Odyssey didđ
@N7 Andy yes of course, writing works in a way that it shouldn't be consistent with it's history in the slightest, and retcon and change things at a whim.
That is a terrible excuse for it and I am shocked that you actually think it is good.
@N7 Andy irrelevant? Then why do they keep the same excuses for changing stuff it it's irrelevant? They should just do a new, separate thing and not ruin the original thing.
Odyssey is the game that messed every single storyline up, as if it was its goal to retcon and ruin everything it touched.
Kyraâs storyline was also a very excellent side mission. Also a really good love interest. You work with her and her uprising in the mission.
I 100% this game and it was great. Used to put some podcasts or music on and smash through it. Some of the environments were just so beautiful and immersive, definitely a must play. Plus the whole mercenary thing was great, they just randomly show up sometimes and youâre like oh damn, letâs do this.
I never had the grind to get to higher level to do main missions because I just did a load of side stuff before hand
I really love this game and the atmosphere it brings, also is one of the few games that really keeps me hooked.
(Spoiler warning) I started it a week ago and I am still in athens, taking my time with the side quests. I like to do every single thing before I leave to the next region (minus the timed quests/board quests cause they are endless). As much as I love this game, there is a thing that I don't like about it. This world is so immersive and the story got me hooked and sometimes I don't know what to do next so I don't ruin the flow of the story and screw up some dialogue/future quests options. For example, I did that two times already:
1. In the first island, you had a quest with Pheobe and she begged you to save a sick family from a priest that wanted to kill them so the sickness wouldn't spread. You had the choice to let the priest kill them or to kill the priest and spare them. The ultimate outcome is that if you let them live, the sickness will spread to the whole island. Here, I didn't even have the choice because while I was exploring, I bumped into the area where the priest was and he attacked me so i killed him. then I did the quest and basically it automatically counted as if I chose to save the family.
2. After the first thing happened, I became cautious with my gameplay cause I did't want to mess up the story so I did the story quests first, then the gold side quests and then the rest. I still managed to mess up somehow in Odessa's questline. While I was in Megaris, I did every single thing as I stated and Odessa's questline seemed done. I had the option to recruit her on my ship and that is what I did. Well, a few regions later I find myself doing a Sokrates side quest where you had to choose between killing a woman to eliberate a slave or refusing to kill the woman but the man remains a slave. That woman is Odessa. Well, this would have been an interesting quest but I messed it up because I recruited Odessa on my ship ages ago so my choice was automatically to spare the woman.
Honestly, if I still had the choices I would probably choose the same things and have the same outcomes but these details made me too aware of the stuff I do in this game. On the other hand, somehow is kinda realistic because you do stuff and kill people in the same world you live in without being aware that maybe later you should have met them, screwed someone's family or an entire set of conversations that you didn't have the chance to have or whatever.
I genuinely enjoyed this game when it came out and all the dlc that was released for it. I have invested hundreds of hours, more than in Origins which is my favorite. May not be a "true Assassin's Creed" game but it's still great nonetheless
I love AC: Odyssey. Largely because of the side-quests that are really memorable. Poor Supideo.
This is one of my top 5 games of all time. Iâm currently replaying for it like the 5th or 6th time and Iâm just in love with it and wish more games would be like it.
Its a real shame people criticized ac odyssey as one of the worse games ever and ubisoft clearly listened which was bad for valhalla. They downgraded so many rpg mechanic from odyssey its insane no citizens being able to fight, lack of extensive side questlines instead opting for main story to make you explore the whole world, skill tree I don't even know what they were thinking with that its a jumbled mess, reduced the amount of outfits in the game drastically, ship gameplay neutered(yes it make sense historically but its still eh) and overall the world was more bland. I still enjoyed it but Odyssey was a masterpiece. Ac Red is being developed by the Odyssey team I can only hope they make it more like Odyssey not Valhalla.
@@kennethyoung7457 thatâs my hope too
Got back to playing Odyssey after 4 years because I was bored playing Mirage and realized that they included so many new missions (community missions as well) and a whole new island (Corfu). Stunning. In case some of you haven't noticed yet!
AC Odyssey is incredibly fun to play! There is a ridiculous amount of things to do and it does not get boring. It is absolutely beautiful as well. I feel like an actual spartan warrior playing this game. The only thing I can't stand is the "Follow this person" missions. Those have always driven me crazy. Also, if the CREATORS of the game say it's an Assassins Creed game, it's an Assassins Creed game.
Ever since the new shift into most of the playable characters being descendants of literal gods or godlike people, odyssey was the only game in the new trilogy to actually make me feel like a demi god, the abillities were more than just flashy moves, you could slow time, manifest etheral bulls, become invincible.
it only shouldve stayed with odyssey in which valhalla takes it wayyy tooo far especially with how close it is to altairs time
@@godzillazfriction Valhalla is pretty grounded aside from the very last missions tf you mean? Sure youâve got the oden stuff going on but the abilities are like throwing axes and shit
@@Viper-dz2kw seems like you haven't played valhallam.. oh well
@@godzillazfriction what do you mean???? he said he played the whole game so what are you talking about???
@@vice2versa whatttt??? what I am even talkinggg abouttt?? whatttt??
2023 and I'm still playing this game. I easily have more than 500 hrs played on different playthroughs on different consoles and I still think it's a great game. I love navigating through the sea, super relaxing especially if you're exploring and jumping from island to island.
I once rolled up on a camp, only to notice from afar that a wild boar had run in and started trying to kill the guards; the guards killed it, then all ran out of the camp to kill the other boars nearby. I strolled in and looted and burnt, and in the end, only the captain was still alive, outside the camp. Wild
I love this game! The DLCs are great too. Atlantis looked absolutely amazing.
Elysium was my favourite!
Dude you've made like 20 videos of this already wtf
Odyssey is my second favorite AC title right behind AC2. I think the main complaint for odyssey is that the enemies are too spongy. This is because casual players want to be good at all aspects of combat. If choose your class from the start (hunter, warrior or assassin) and specialize your character toward those strengths, you will have no trouble taking down enemies.
I liked the quests that brought Socrates along giving you a huge moral conundrum.
I think people just want to play Assasin's Creed 2 again for the first time.
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One of my favorite games of all time. Played as Kassandra. Her character along with the voice work to me is so underrated. Did everything in game same with DLC.
Those mercenaries are amazing. Nothing more thrilling than trying to stealthily clear a Fort and having one or two of them hunting you down as you do it.
I remember one time I got attacked by one that was way too powerful for me and he had a lynx I think that kept messing me up and I had to approach it really strategically, . I would go up on a pillar and shoot arrows at him, then he would shoot me off it and his lynx would attack me it was supposed to be a quick random thing but turned into this huge battle for my life, lol it was epic.
@@Fettman89 I'm level 61 at the moment and all the mercenaries are too easy now. I had a level 58 and level 61 following me around the other day and I was avoiding them because I couldn't be bothered to fight them. Then I found a level 90 and couldn't resist the challenge. When I was in the middle of fighting a level 90 the other two joined in and it became this epic battle. The mercenaries make for some really interesting and dynamic moments.
Great video!
Iâm 41 years old, played some of, if not all whatâs widely considered the greatest games ever made.. I got asked a question by a mate at work a few months ago, he asked me âNot the best game youâve ever played, but whatâs your favourite gameâ I thought for a while, then said, Assassins Creed Odyssey.. The realisation took me a little by surprise, especially when I named a reasonably modern game when I must have played literally thousands of games in my time. I thought about it properly later on and just thought there has to have been a game Iâve enjoyed more than Odyssey, but honestly, there isnât.. Itâs not without faults (If I was to be hyper critical, I could probably write an essay on the things thatâs wrong with the game), but despite the warts, I loved and continue to love my experiences playing Odyssey.
I can 100% understand why AC fans would hate this game, if I was an AC fan and played a game that had completely changed direction, Iâd be bitterly disappointed too.. fortunately Iâm definitely not an AC fan, in fact, Odyssey is the only Assassins Creed game Iâve enjoyed. (Iâve played them all)
Greek Mythology, massive and beautiful world with small islands to explore, pirating, smooth and very fun combat, an upgrade system that keeps me coming back time and time again, a story (although not great) none irritating but actually likeable characters, fun sub stories and Mythical monsters all rapped up in a game that is actually quite historically accurate, itâs just fun! Perfect for me I guess!
The last thing Iâll say, I know theyâre reverting back to their roots with Mirage, but I really did hope theyâd have made Skull and Bones into a sort of sequel to Odyssey, keeping the same mechanics humour and content. Black Flag just doesnât satisfy that pirating itch.
Origins is superior dude
This was one of the first games that I decided to platinum at the last minute simply because I had already done almost everything required. I think I spent about 3 hours to platinum when I realized how close I was.
Thatâs how much I enjoyed this game. I was so excited for Valhalla but this was like all the AC games after black flag for me. They just didnât live up to the hype.