Crown Victoria - Cornering Lamp Mod
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1:33 Chris’ Question
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2:40 My Turn Signal Mod Demo
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3:56 Grand Marquis Side Marker Demo
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7:40 Civilian Vic 4-Wire Connector
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9:42 How To De-Pin Connector
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Great video. Cornering lights are great option to have, Specially when you have tinted front windows. I wish all cars came standard with it.
Right on Neg-Pro,
You got that right.
-Chuck
great job helping out a subscriber.
not many would tear their car apart to help someone out. 🤜🤛👍
Yo Caper,
I can't take any credit.
This was a really good question.
-Chuck
You sir, are a wealth of knowledge on panthers
Right on John,
Thanks for the kind words.
-Chuck
Oh my. You said marauder 6 times! You didn’t forget about us. I’m so happy 😀
Right on C-Raud,
Dully noted. Lol
-Chuck
excellent as always
Yo Mike,
This video's like a week old, where you been?
I'm just playin', thanks for stopping in. lol
-Chuck
Cornering lamp should only illuminate continuously while the signal is on that’s how my sho taurus was
Yo EZ,
Correct.
The only time the cornering lamps illuminate is when the turn signal is engaged.
At 6:57 I turned the ignition off with the headlights on, and the driver side turn signal on just to demonstrate what it would look like without the turn signal flashing.
I failed to explain that, sorry for the confusion.
The cornering lamps ARE NOT connected to the parking lamp circuit.
If they were, they would be illuminated under normal driving without the turn signal engaged, that would be inconsiderate to blind people like that.
-Chuck
Your the man chuck. I miss on my 96 how when you turned the blinker on the whole side lit up from the curb light as I think they called it. I will be doing this mod as soon as I get the marauder lens for my 99 Vic LX. Glad you show how to do it. I previously asked, what wire harness do I need? I need to watch your other vid for the how to... But this is greatly done sir.
Right on Adam,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I soooooo want to do this mod on my Lincoln very niceee
Right on George,
Thanks for watching.
I'm confuesed though.
Your lincoln should already have these from the factory.
What is the YEAR /MAKE / MODEL of your car?
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform I have a 01' TownCar I saw this video and immediately thought it was coolest mod ever. Just not sure what I may need or what car will work for the mod. But figure I give it a try. Thank you 😊
I've gotten a 05' Grand Marque front end and I'm swapping it out on my 2010 Interceptor, my Bro BST, Wayne sent me the grill and wire harness! So finally going to start building my first Grand Victoria 🤣😂😎 I just found me a 05' doner Grand Marque LX so I even have the leather interior too!
Right on DM,
That sounds fun.
Wayne is a great guy, he sent me a trophy. Lol
There's a photo of it on my latest community post. Photo #3.
-Chuck
Neat.
Yo Hollywood,
Long time no see.
Sorry to pull you away from your intense video gaming regiment.
-Chuck
My dream come true! Yeahhhh!
Yo FCH,
Let us know how it works out.
-Chuck
Good video. Since my Vic is a P-71 i'm going to have to do a wire splice to get the parking light to blink on and off opposite to the turn signal lamp in the headlight assembly. I was going to do this a while back but I decided to wait until I get new headlights and do it when I install them. I'm betting new factory headlights next month. My original 15 year old headlights are shot.
Right on JT,
You may want to keep your old headlights.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Is there any info or video on how to do this marquis cornering lamp mod on a P71 CVPI? Its what I want to do.
@@federicoarangopaez
Yo FA,
The Police Model Vics, (P71, P7B, CVPI) have a different wiring harness for the turn signal / side marker bulbs. I confirmed this with my friend WJ Handy Dad. So this easy, "plug & play de-pinning" method only works on civilian Vics.
In order to do this on a police model it's going to be slightly more difficult, and require some parts like a relay, etc.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Thank you for the response. It would be amazing if you and Handy Dad or someone else could come up with a tutorial process for doing this on a 2004+ CVPI. We would have to find someone near you with a P71 that can help. I am in South Florida so i do not know how helpful i could be.
The more you know.. thanks
Right on King.
You must be bored watching my old reruns. lol
-PZR
Add fog lights to it and do a video about it 😄
Hello,
Here you go;
czcams.com/video/RjCaw5C4Bxk/video.htmlfeature=shared
-Chuck
My 03 CVPI has all four wires. I did this mod about 10 years ago, only I repinned the body harness, not the light harness. I think it was in 04+ that they cheaped out on the wireharness.
Right on Cathy,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
-Chuck
🤘🏻
Right on Mr. Music,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I recently put in those same cornering LED lights in my 04 Grand Marquis from your last video and they’ve helped with visibility a lot. When I first got the car I noticed the headlight just don’t seem to have much throw or brightness so I put the best Silverstar Ultra halogens I could find but only got a slight improvement. At this point those cornering LEDs are practically brighter than my headlights and the prices are very affordable for LED headlights and most on Amazon have good reviews. I was thinking about spending the $40-50 to try them out but I’m not sure how the process will go. I’ve read some Grand Marquis need the retainer ring for the bulb to be cut down (which I can do if necessary) because it doesn’t allow the heatsink to fit past it. Then I’ve read some people say you also need to buy the resistor kit or you’ll get flickering or a light on the dash, but not all the reviews for these cars said that. It’s been years since I pulled the headlights out to change the bulbs but looking at them recently there’s also that rubber dust cap on the back of the headlight housings that I assume would need to be removed or modified to allow the heatsink to fit in the lens. Also being an 04 Grand Marquis with the LCM recall I wonder if any voltage or resistance values between regular and LED lights could cause any issues with it as I plan on keeping it in my car and not having the bypass done unless I ever actually get an LCM failure and have no choice. I think LEDs would really help with visibility and for as cheap as they are I wouldn’t mind giving them a shot but at the same time if everything is going to need modified to get them in the lens and they still might not work without the resistors then I’m not sure it’s worth all the trouble.
Yo Mr. E,
Thanks for watching.
I tried those Sylvania SilverStars first, and had no luck with them either.
Based on my experience you should not need to add a resistor when replacing the halogen headlight bulbs with an LED headlight bulb, only the turn signal bulbs in my case.
I share your concern with the currently active LCM recall on 2003-2005 model years. I just got another notice last month to take my car to have the recall performed, but I don’t want it done until I actually have a problem. My 2004 Vic still functions properly, even with LED headlight bulbs. If it ever fails, I have a resource that repaired his by re-soldering the relays on the circuit board in the LCM black box. Or I may even bypass the whole LCM all together.
Since you have an ‘04 Grand Marquis you’ll have to overcome that “rubber dust cap” issue. My two Panthers don’t have that.
Choosing the right LED Headlight bulb for your intended application is going to involve some form of “buy & try & return”. For that I recommend amazon since they have a 30-day no hassle return policy. You should know if they’re going to work out after a few days of driving at night in various conditions.
When it comes to LED headlight bulbs I don’t really like the ones with built in cooling fans. Of course they are brighter, but it just seems like a week point in the design. I prefer fanless with a big chuck of metal to dissipate all that extra heat.
Stay tuned, I’m currently working on 2, or 3 LED lighting experiments.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Thanks for the response. I’ve also gotten those letters, the first one a few years ago was for a replacement LCM and since then it’s been the bypass which the dealer told me is a 5 hour job so I’ll pass on having everything under my dash cut up and spliced together unless it actually fails since I don’t think it’s a time sensitive recall. I’ve replaced the interior, cornering, and reverse lights with LEDs but I’m keeping the rear lights and turn signal incandescents since they seem to have more problems even with the ones that have resistors and being brighter doesn’t really help with those lights anyway. Plus the taillights take 2 bulbs per lens so that would be adding up money pretty quickly. As fas as the headlights are concerned the ones I’m looking at on Amazon are Sealight 9007s because they are cheap so if they don’t hold up I’m not out much, have a lot of good reviews (including some panther reviews) and they also sell their own specific resistor kit for them if it would be needed. They also are fanless which is one of the reasons why I’m leaning towards them over another brand that has a fan, especially if they’re going to be a bit more exposed without the dust cap then there’s probably less chance of a failure with them, but having a larger heatsink instead of a fan will probably take up more space than the factory set up but hopefully would work.
@@Mr.Everything
Right on.
Keep me posted with those Sealight 9007's.
Especially let know know if you make a video review.
I would love to see that.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform I just checked the listing on them again and they were on sale and had a coupon so I got them for $30 and at that price it’s worth the experiment. Hopefully if the weather stays nice where I’m at I can do them whenever they come, otherwise it might be a while until I’ll have time to get the lenses out, see if any modifications are needed, and then have time to make a video if it all works out.
I need these for my 01 crown vic lx. Btw it's probably so nice to not worry about salt on the roads. That's my only complaint about living in indiana. I would love to get a lower mileage later model grand marquis from Texas.
Right on Jake,
The wiring is 90% done, you just need the bulbs, and a step drill bit.
-Chuck
You put together great videos! Much appreciated! Is it possible to do this same modification on a 2000 Ford Crown Victoria?
Right on Jason,
Thanks for watching.
Should work on all "civilian" Vics 1998-2011.
Based on my research, police models are not pre-wired for the 4th positive wire in the connector to illuminate the cornering lamp.
Confirm & verify by checking the wiring against the schematic in the last chapter of the video.
-Chuck
I have a 99....So my question is you mentioned in the beginning that you can do this but with the wiring harness for plug and play. What harness??
Does the cornering lamp come on only with the signal on your Vic? Or always with the headlights.
Also, since police models don't have those two wires, is there empty pins for those wires at the LCM to wire them up?
I also LOVE the 06-11 Grand Marquis marker lights. Just wish they didn't "bulge out" as they don't sit flush with the crown Vic headlight when seated. That is why I had to go with a 2005 Grand Marquis Marker Light.
Yo Maxy,
The only time the cornering lamps illuminate is when the turn signal is engaged.
At 6:57 I turned the ignition off with the headlights on, and the driver side turn signal on just to demonstrate what it would look like without the turn signal flashing.
I failed to explain that, sorry for the confusion.
The cornering lamps ARE NOT connected to the parking lamp circuit.
If they were, they would be illuminated under normal driving without the turn signal engaged, that would be inconsiderate to blind people like that.
“Also, since police models don't have those two wires, is there empty pins for those wires at the LCM to wire them up?”
I do not have access to a police model Vic to take a look, so I’m unable to answer this question.
However, the wire for the additional turn signal bulb can just be tapped into the existing turn signal circuit in the headlamp assembly. So really, there’s only one “difficult” wire to run, and that’s for the cornering lamp.
-Chuck
On my Grand Marquis the cornering lamp comes on with the turn signal and goes off after the turn completed ,not connected to park lamps at all ,Maybe thats done in the LCM I dont know but me personally I want the lite to shut off as it should ,not stay on with the parking lamps
Yo BG,
You are correct.
That's exactly how they function in my Vic.
At 6:57 I turned the ignition off with the headlights on, and the driver side turn signal on just to demonstrate what it would look like without the turn signal flashing.
I failed to explain that, sorry for the confusion.
The cornering lamps ARE NOT connected to the parking lamp circuit.
That would mean they would be illuminated under normal driving without the turn signal engaged, that would be inconsiderate to blind people like that.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Thanks Chuck ,Got it now.Enjoy your vids,Thanks for taking the time to reply
yay, a video i can be part of, civy crvic.
Now the question is
marauder or grama?
HI-ho Silver,
Thanks for stopping by.
-Chuck
Stop being butthurt that the Marauder/grand Marquis is nicer than the Vic lol💯
Nice video, but cornering lamps shouldn't require the headlights to be on, nor should the cornering lamps be on all the time
Right on David,
Thanks for watching.
You are correct.
The only time the cornering lamps illuminate is when the turn signal is engaged.
At 6:57 I turned the ignition off with the headlights on, and the driver side turn signal on just to demonstrate what it would look like without the turn signal flashing.
I failed to explain that, sorry for the confusion.
The cornering lamps ARE NOT connected to the parking lamp circuit.
If they were, they would be illuminated under normal driving without the turn signal engaged, that would be inconsiderate to blind people like that.
As far as requiring the headlamps to be on to engage the cornering lamp, I have no control over that.
That is how Ford designed the system to operate.
I did not modify how the factory system operates.
I simply connected the wires as if my car were a Grand Marquis, Marauder.
-Chuck
Panzer Platform, I was watching this video today after working on my 2011 CV LX today. Mine is a civilian version, but only has two wires in that factory wire harness that you are talking about here. Perhaps they skimped out on wiring for the final year of the Crown Victoria LX?
Right on XTC,
Thanks for the good feedback.
Just when I think I have these cars figured out, some new info comes along. Sheesh.
-Chuck
Hi chuck its good to know that is possible to run corner light on the crown vics , i lost my corner lighting function after an accident , i am lazy these days to check it or take it to a shop by the way I really like the corner light on my 07 grand marquis its remind me with my father old 90 chevy caprice
Right on Mr. Bahrain,
Thanks for stopping by.
-Chuck
@2:29 - how do we keep the cornering lamp from flashing? Isn't the output at the wire harness "flashing?" Don't we need to run a separate wire that is constant hot when the turn signal is active?
Excellent question Handy.
The Plug & Play method shown in this video is for civilian Vic's only.
Police models will need an additional wire run for the cornering lamp bulb.
I'm looking for a P71/P7B owner to collab with to show how to do this on a police model. Do you know anyone? Lol
-Chuck
I've actually got an 04 p71 with a four wire connection
Chuck, i have a 2011 Police Unit, what wiring harness do I need to make my Cornering lamp blink on vehicle and do I need to do any cutting?
Yo Prince,
If you want to keep your original side marker assembly, you have choice between two "blink" patterns.
This is what they look like;
czcams.com/video/hdaLrpYanD0/video.html
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-Chuck
Also, I assume the headlight assembly is not interchangeable between the 2? I’ve had crown Vic’s for years… just got my first marquis… amazing how similar they are and not at the same time 😊
Yo Mr. Funk,
You can say that again.
My Vic is a 2004.
My MGM is a 2010.
What years are yours?
-Chuck
How do I make the side marker on my 2011 police P71 blink? Is it as simple as splicing it into the headlight turn signal?
I miss this feature i have it on the stinkin lincoln but not the vic
Thanks for watching.
Is your Vic a Police Model?
If so, there's way to do it, but I don't have a Police Model to test it out on.
-Chuck
I looked for a junk yard but can't find any near on maps... what part number am name (cornering lamp wire harness?) I looking for if I'm buying it online? Thank you very much for making this video?
Yo FCH,
In order to add cornering lamps to Your Vic, you’ll need the wiring harness from a 2003-2011 Grand Marquis Part Number# 3W3Z-15A434-AA.
If you buy them new they are expensive, ($90 each).
And you’ll need two.
So It may be worth making the drive to a junk yard.
-Chuck
Can you do a video of crown Vic headlights swap on to a marquis I want to swap the led aftermarket projectors onto my marquis
Hello,
I don't think that will work.
The header panel is different.
-Chuck
Thank you for the time you dedicate to make these videos.
From this video, would it be correct to infer that if I change the wiring harness (on the cornering housing) the light will blink as I turn?
Yo Aska,
I think I know what your asking but just to make sure;
What is the YEAR / MAKE / MODEL of your car?
Does it have the original factory side marker assembly?
-Chuck
What LEDs do you have in your fronts and tails to not have hyperblinking?
Yo Anthony,
Thanks for stopping in.
This might help; czcams.com/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/video.html
-Chuck
Chuck I revisited this video to reach out to you if you notice. Just scrapped my '04 CVPI to be picked for parts by others after using it as my daily driver for 16 years and replaced it with an '05 Lincoln Town Car, Signature Series, the entry base level car. It has as oem the signal configuration you are modifying to your Crown Vic. Could there be an easier way to reach the same end by plugging in some oem LTC electric harness parts ? Its a nice feature and there are other upgrades in the Lincoln just with the 1 model year advance. Best Regards.
Yo Richard,
Long time no see. Lol
Congrats on the LTC.
I'm not 100% sure I understand your question, but a part of me wants to say no.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Good to hear back from you too Chuck, the question is answered satisfactorily thank you very much. The LTC is a step up in luxury and creature features comfort from the CVPI. Having a Crown Vic and a Mercury you know the experience, its like comparing work boots to dress shoes. I miss some aspects of the trusty old ride but appreciate benefits pf the new acquisition. Mostly performance. The LTCs are sluggish while the CVPIa are energetic and want to blast off.
So to continue with my blacked out theme for my car, it's probably best to order some Marauder lenses , then go to a wrecking yard and find a newer year Marquis and take the wiring harnesses going up to the corner markers and then wire them into my 2011 p7b ?? I'm understanding the cars are wired quite a bit differently now.
Right on Chris,
Before you spend a dime you need to find out if your car is pre-wired with the 4 wire connector just like this;
czcams.com/video/7GcFFMGkTUM/video.html
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If your connector only has 2 wires, you're not going to be able to do this as shown in the video.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform 8:05 I see what you're saying about the connector , and you specify civilian vic.. I'll have to check mine when I get the chance. Today I'll be doing the water pump because I blew that .. I really appreciate the content you put out , and you're overly helpful with the questions you get, and I really appreciate that !
and at 9:35 you're saying the police model will need to have the two additional wires ran for the turn signal and cornering lamp .. I must have missed this the first time I watched ..
I want to do this mod on
My 06’ p71
Yo Mr. Sin,
Thanks for stopping in.
I thought about doing it to my Vic, but I prefer the look of the factory side marker assembly.
I even thout about keeping my factory side marker, and just adding a small auxiliary led flood light, and connect it to the cornering lamp wire.
-Chuck
Hey Chuck great video. Quick question I want to do this on my Lincoln what year pigtail can I use to do this mod
Right on Mr. C
Thanks for watching.
I'm a little confused.
Your Town Car already has factory cornering lamps.
This should explain how they function;
czcams.com/video/vADYrIqMhJc/video.html
Let me know if you have any other questions.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform no your totally right I do have factory cornering lights. I guess what I mean is I would like for them to flash with my turn signals also. Just curious what pigtail I could use.
Now I'm even more confused. lol
Are you saying you do not want cornering lamps anymore, and you want a parking lamp, and trun signal in its place?
So you basically want dual parking lamps, and turn signals on each side?
Just so we're on the same page.
The cornering lamp bulb, and socket is a SINGLE filament.
The turn signal bulb, and socket is DUAL filament.
Here's a video how a dual filament works; czcams.com/video/q7UG1RRE4VI/video.html
@@cartierchronicles2000
I wanted to keep the factory side marker on my Crown Vic so I eventually added aftermarket cornering lamps.
Here's how they work; czcams.com/video/tV4ElIrc4Ts/video.html
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The chapters called "walk around" and "drive by" really show how they work.
But Chuck, what do I need to do to get the radio plugged in?? Dang P7B has a small radio plug, not ment for the standard Panthers
I'm not 100% sure what you are talking about.
Can you explain that so I can understand?
-Chuck
How'd you get a regular size bulb in crown vic Corner light?
Hello,
I enlarged the hole with a Uni-Bit, or Step-Bit.
czcams.com/video/DFbQ5hmTkL8/video.html
-Chuck
How did you stop all the hyper flashing? I like LED’s and have them everywhere but the turn signals 😅
Yo Mr. Funk,
Thanks for stopping by.
This might help;
czcams.com/video/l5tSSLhFGZA/video.html
-Chuck
So for us cloning a P7B into a 2004 Mercury Marauder?
Hello,
Police models are not pre-wired for cornering lamps.
You will have to wire it up yourself.
-Chuck
Greetings Panzer, I do not understand why Ford put the signal in front of the headlights and don’t blink at de sides like their panther brothers Mercury grand marquis & Marauder
Yo Tac,
Long time no see.
Why ask why, drink Bud Dry. lol
-Chuck
Is the side marker a turn signal from factory on the p71?
Because it isn’t on mine
Right on Zack,
No.
1998-2011 CV civilian, and P71 side markers are not turn signals.
I modified mine be replacing the single filament bulb, with a dual filament bulb.
You can see how I did it here; czcams.com/video/DFbQ5hmTkL8/video.html
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform How did you do this? I can't find video?
@@josephvolpe688
Right on Joseph,
Do you have a Police Model or a Civilian Model?
-Chuck
I HAVE A POLICE INTERCEPT BUT I DONT KNOW WHERE TO GET THE HEADLIGHT ADAPTER PLUG THAT YOU ARE CONNECTING. CAN YOU SEND ME A LINK WHERE I CAN FIND IT? 2003 CV PI
Hello,
Only Civilian Crown Victoria, and Grand Marquis are pre-wired for cornering lamps.
CVPI P71 & P7B Police Interceptor models are not wired for cornering lamps.
You will have to custom wire the cornering lamps yourself.
-Chuck
Hi my friend, can I install Marquis stables on Ford Victoria
Right on Tiger,
Thanks for watching.
No, you need the 2003-2004 Maurader assemblies for easier fitment.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform
I don't just want to install it, can I?
My Car ford Crown Victoria 2002
Hello Tiger,
You need these; www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KY5VQ8G
-Chuck
What is the part number for the Dual filament bulb because I will do this on my 06 p71
Right on Kris,
Thanks for watching.
It's the same exact bulb as your front turn signal.
Let me know if you need more help.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform okay so I just go to the parts store and get two more turn signal bulbs
@@krownvikkhris3004
Yup.
@@PanzerPlatform okay thank you very much because I have been trying to figure out for the longest how I can make the side marker bulbs blink also
@@krownvikkhris3004
This might help;
czcams.com/video/aOKuPYsVgLE/video.html
what years? i have a 1998 cv p73
Yo Lee,
This should work for '98-'11 Civilian Croen Vic's.
Before you buy a set of Marauder, or Grand Marquis side markers, and swing by your local junk yard to pick up the wiring harness, you may want to check the connector on your car first.
If it has 4 wires like I show in the video it will work plug & play.
If your connector only has two wires, you'll need to run two additional wires for the cornering lamp bulb, and the extra turn signal bulb.
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform thanks Chuck! great info!