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Building a £10 cyclocross frame into a race machine.
Welcome to the first Time for Bike video in quite some time - and boy is it a good one!
The frame was new and was an unbelievable buy form eBay for just £10.50 (about $12.00). I really did not think that the seller would actually sell it to me for that even though I won it fair and square - but he was true to his word and I collected it! Next I thought was it stolen - well from what I could make out he was a genuine guy that even introduced me to his lovely mother when handing the bike over. Also this chap seemed to know a lot about the local cyclocross scene. I have always wanted a good quality cyclocross bike, especially a disc brake bike with a 11sp, hydraulic Shimano setup. Some great parts were sourced over a little while to let me build up this bike from a mix of quality used parts and also new. The video has full breakdown of the bikes costs and this extended video will show you each and every one of them being installed. The frame came with a headset, bottom bracket, seat post and clamp, and also a stem and associated spacers. This bike was not ridden at all until the race day that followed it final completion the day before. Obviously not the best prep as there was no time to test - however the bike rode well and stayed in one piece allowing for a mid field finish. A great start to its muddy life! Please tag along to watch the 'Building a £10 cyclocross frame into a race machine' and see if you could build this amazing bike for less.
If you have enjoyed watching this then please make a comment, live the video, subscribed to the channel and hit the bell icon! It would also be great if you could have a look at my other video’ on the channel - it really helps the cause. Most off all, take care and happy cycling!
The frame was new and was an unbelievable buy form eBay for just £10.50 (about $12.00). I really did not think that the seller would actually sell it to me for that even though I won it fair and square - but he was true to his word and I collected it! Next I thought was it stolen - well from what I could make out he was a genuine guy that even introduced me to his lovely mother when handing the bike over. Also this chap seemed to know a lot about the local cyclocross scene. I have always wanted a good quality cyclocross bike, especially a disc brake bike with a 11sp, hydraulic Shimano setup. Some great parts were sourced over a little while to let me build up this bike from a mix of quality used parts and also new. The video has full breakdown of the bikes costs and this extended video will show you each and every one of them being installed. The frame came with a headset, bottom bracket, seat post and clamp, and also a stem and associated spacers. This bike was not ridden at all until the race day that followed it final completion the day before. Obviously not the best prep as there was no time to test - however the bike rode well and stayed in one piece allowing for a mid field finish. A great start to its muddy life! Please tag along to watch the 'Building a £10 cyclocross frame into a race machine' and see if you could build this amazing bike for less.
If you have enjoyed watching this then please make a comment, live the video, subscribed to the channel and hit the bell icon! It would also be great if you could have a look at my other video’ on the channel - it really helps the cause. Most off all, take care and happy cycling!
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FYI soaking in vinegar for rust works well. For forks wrap in vinegar soaked paper towel. With the tin foil you can use water, wd40 or vinegar. A great build thankyou for sharing.
@@terrynye7034 thankyou for sharing. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Klein's are beautiful, too bad they are such a harsh ride for my old bones. I would have preferred to see build up with polished silver Shimano groupset such as DA7700 or 7800. The all black components just aren't as classy.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting. You are right that they can produce a harsh ride. However, that could be ironed out a little if you used modern tubeless rims and ran them at lower pressures. Also I totally understand your view on groupsets. 'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder' and all that, this was just my modern take and it's great that my race wheels from my other bike fit this bike with no need to change cassette. Also the shifting and braking performance is amazing. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
How did you get past Square Taper pressfit BB?
I would imagine that my bike was one of the first of the trek/klein era - and hence a threaded bottom bracket was a standard. The paintwork is definitely a Klein job though. Thanks for stopping by, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Since finishing it whats something you've changed Over time that you would've done differently? I im building the same frame still working on getting all my parts ordered (haven't decided on what drivetrain to use
A really good question. The biggest problem has been the frame size. An XL is too big for me as a gravel bike. As an MTB it could work but it's still quite big. I have an Adroit frame of a very similar era that is a large and is excellent as an MTB, but once again as a gravel bike it could still be a little too big. As for components, I would say hydraulic disc brakes would be an excellent addition. Everything else has been great! Best of luck with the build, I bet you will love it. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
@@timeforbikes my frame is m/l and I was thinking the same thing, I thought about shorter stem and adjusting the seat forward, how many gears did you end up going with the 1x11?
@@eduardoluis9915 yeah, 1 x 11. Worked well. I did put a shorter stem on following the filming once I had time to really try it out over a longer distance.
thanks. i did it but it came back worse the next day :(. On a chrome stem. maybe i damaged the chromelayer more? Ill try again and dry it properly this time...
Best of luck. The rust will always return but yes, that was really quick. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
@@timeforbikes guess i had to really take it apart a bit, redid it, properly cleaned and dried and then polished the metal. But im still a bit confused as to how small dents in paint on parts like the derailleurs could be fixed without having rust come back instantly. I guess ill just pick up a small brush and repaint the bits. Otherwise i have a freewheel where it was also hard to not have the rust return.
@@KeesFluitman unfortunately once it is cleaned of rust it is then open for it to return. This technique is only really a temporary fix. The chrome layer that is added at the factory is damaged by this point and the metal underneath is what rusts. Without some kind of repair or covering of that layer the rust will return. You would need to keep repeating this process once the rust becomes noticeable again. Obviously keep the chrome as dry as possible to help stop its return. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
What bottom bracket is that im looking into putting a whole new grx drivetrain in mine
Hi, from memory it's a shimano M8000 screw in. Its a fairly standard BB consisting of just two cups and a plastic tube between them. Hope that helps, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Where can I get the adapter for the rear disk brake?
Hi, as you can see I made my own. There is one available from a2z bike parts but I didn't have any luck with it. Apparently you can use that adapter and fit a larger 180mm disc and caliper to it and it should all fit well - I only found this out after these videos. If you search the web you may be able to still find the posting I followed to make mine. It is an upgrade that transforms the bike and is well worth the effort. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
That's exactly what I thought that the disk was too small and a larger one would fix that
belleza!!!
Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
2 years later and this build still stands up to the test of time.. Im inspired to upgrade my Klein Q Carbon now..
Thanks! This build is sitting waiting to be ridden right now. I can't wait to get back out on it. If you decide to upgrade your Q Carbon then I hope it turns out as you dream it to. Awesome bikes. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Why do blokes like their bikes so much? 2 reasons I reckon. Old bikes are pieces of art made by craftsmen. And when you ride them, you are putting your life on the line; if they break, you could be killed in the crash. Andy is one lucky bloke. I have an almost identical bike in similar not quite so bad condition. My bike is brown. Same badge though. I purchased it second hand 1980. I was going to sell it. No way now. I will bring it back to as good as I can. I used to work on it after reading Richard’s Bike Book. I can do that again. I’m inspired. Thanks for the video; lovely finish. Made my day seeing Andy so happy. Lucky bug gar.
Lovely 👏, thanks for dripping by and leaving such a nice comment. There are some tell tell signs when a bike is just too far gone to repair but this was not the case here. It was a pleasure being able to hand the bike back to the original owner. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
👌9:37 Mudflap: a very important bike part, unfortunately disregarded these days by snobs who think mud-splattered clothing and Bikes are cool.
Essential when riding with others during winter that's for sure. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
@@timeforbikes Thank you, also happy cycling. Who is most happy with my (very deep and homemade) mudflap is my bike, which likes to stay clean. 🙂
Great vidio great bike please turn the music down off when you are speaking and place the cchannel locks in another room so you are not tempted to use them
Thanks for the feedback, when this was made I was more of a newbee to it all. Hopefully the sound has improved a little since then. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Well done monster effort!
Thanks, it was a hard day in the saddle. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Nice build! I would like to ask you if any shimano (or Sram) MTB crankset will work as well as XT tour used. The problem with GRX is the chain line?
Thanks for the comment. The main problem is the q factor with this frame. A mtb frame like this is wide at the point on the chain stays where the crank arms pass closely. This is due to the need of the frame to accommodate a wider tyre. MTB chainsets allow for this but gravel chainsets may not, and I suspect in most if not all cases would not leading to the pedal arm and crank arms to pass too close to.the MTB frame and snag upon it. If you have not watched all.the episodes of this build the have a look again as I explain it all.there. hope this helps. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Thanks for your answer! So you think that any MTB cranc like SLX or maybe sram would work fine as well?
@@timeforbikes I watched many times your videos and purchase a SLX M7000 crankset that has the same q-factor and chainline (50mm) of the XY you install. I was sure to be able to install it as you did, but in my bike it's impossible to install a 40t crank as it touch the frame. The BB is a standard BSA. Did you install a spacer on the drive side? Are your BB cups wider than the average? I really don't know why It's impossible to install it!
My first ever bike. Still remember the noises when you pushed the button on the bars
The noises rule, or certainly did when I was a nipper. They were certainly bikes with character! Thanks for stopping by and commenting. Take care and happy cycling!
Have you got a video on how to replace a 520 screen cheers
Hi, thanks for stopping by! Unfortunately I don't have a video. I would suggest that it is possible using the guts of this video to help guide you through most of its removal. I doubt you will need much further instruction if I am honest. Sorry I cannot help any further. Fingers crossed you can sort it out. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
My brother had a Street Wolf. I used to ride it but was really a bit too tall for it. I remember us being really excited when we discovered an extra sound which I suspect was just it glitching.
Ha, the extra noises I think happen if the switch to change sounds is perfectly between the two setting - however I could be wrong 😆. I so wished I could have had one when I was young, but having had this one sort of makes up for it. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your story, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
What chainrings did you use if you don’t mind me asking
I used a 36 52 combo (compact chainset) standard shinano 105 rings. Hope that helps, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
I have just started to restore my old (1992) Dawes Synthesis, today (5/4/24😊). Had it from new (£250 I think) from Downham Market and road it all the way to Northampton. After my first bike was stolen 😮. How strange, life is. Started by just pumping up the tyres and then felling sorry for neglecting her for 18 years. Then just come across your vlog with the Dawes restoration. I shall do a slow but full restoration. The paint job, is still as good as new. Credit to the Dawes painter 😊 and the tyres are in good shape too😊.
Fantastic! So glad you are hiving you old trustee friend a well deserved make over. Good news that the paint is still fresh, something this Dawes did not have! Good luck and I hope it all goes well. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
I had this bike 🙌 I loved it so much
Lucky dude you. They were awesome 🙂👍
Such a beautiful bike. Love the paint job.
Thanks! It is a lovely old bike 👍 the paint job is awesome in the sunlight. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Great video. Out of interest, is this the Dorset Dirt Dash route?
I have a feeling it was. I have never undertaken the event myself but the chap I was with in this video had. So I guess it was. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
After watching this video and several others decided to attempt to repair my Edge 520 with shortened battery life. One video was comedic as they were using hot glue instead of heat shrink to insulate wires, other video said to open Edge unit prior to ordering battery in case screen broken during separation which is how I proceeded. Could have saved $10 if willing to wait a month or two longer for a battery. Following this video as a guide, I only had one issue, battery plug would not lock/latch on to pcb mating connector. Very small locking connectors and vison declining with age, after frustration and taking a day break I used my soldering gun to heat fuse the two connectors together. Seems to work without issue so far, hopefully added several years life to my unit that is eight this year. Used black Permatex silicone to seal unit. Thank you Time For Bikes.
What a lovely comment. Thanks for taking time to stop by and let everybody know of your experience. So glad you were able to succeed. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
I had a 0,5 version for road bike size is perfect i can put my phone money, food patch kit, and multi-tool in just fine and if I want I can still squeeze the rain cover in is tight fit but when you close the bag is just fine
Brilliant. They are very useful and mine is still very much going strong. I have cheaper bags which will do the job, but this one just feels nice when needing to use it on the fly. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Loved it, I had the privilege of owning its younger bro, the wildcat.
Lucky dude! So sad I didn't, but this one was cool while I had it. My kids enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Haha ye my cousin had that, we were the talk oh the town lol
I loved my street wolf I was VERY attached to it me and my now departed cousin used to play "cops and baddies" with the sound box
They are so iconic of an 80s childhood. As if cycling itself was not fun enough they made it that little more epic for those lucky enough to have one! Thanks for the comment, Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
I had the very same new battery to replace but found that the connector didnt fit good and kept popping off, i then had to snip off the old original connector and cut the new on off and resolder the old one onto the wires of the new battery. Fiddly but then it connected fine. Also i heat glued my screen back to body. All is working fine again. I did this all before watching you video and yes i did scratch the under side of the screen when removing the old seal. Oh well its an old device and i can live with it. I also peeled off the old sticky tape from under the original battery and reused that.
Cool, after your hard work I bet it functioned a lot better. Glad you managed to reuse the 520 rather than buying a new device. Good work! Take care and happy cycling!
A very ordinary looking bike
Not something you would like to ride then? For its age I think it has taken the step into its future quite well. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Why not put sealant through the valve after the tyre is seated? You are getting sealant everywhere!
Hi, thanks for the comment. I must admit that I have not had all that much issue installing tyres and sealant this way, probably a messy example. Since then I have had some really really tough to fit tyres and they have somewhat perfected the technique. However, putting in sealant through the valve is always going to be a cleaner method. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
I would probably paint the areas that are raw aluminum. Otherwise nicely done. Reusing old bikes is fantastic.
Thanks for the comment! Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
I was lucky enough to have one of these as a kid ,
Vet lucky indeed. Take care. And thanks for commenting! 🙂👍
I have the same bike in the orange/red/yellow color. Love it! I'm definitely an amateur cyclist though so I'm learning as I go moves mostly stock, and like my vehicles, I sun to get rid of any shiny chrome like metal, even polished aluminum of I can. Being on a budget, I started by painting the head tribe spacers black (properly with an etching primer, filet primer, then flat black. I was originally going to carry this on throughout the bike but decided otherwise, especially when I realized titanium cannot be painted while stepping on the dura ace seat stem. Like yours, mine is in pretty good shape, only a couple little dings in the paint which I addressed with either red or yellow paint open to do any potential rust. I'm aware that aluminum shouldn't rust but I've seen otherwise depending on the alloys. The items you choose for your build, all of them, are basically the way I imagine I would like to see my bike having. I've deemed painting anything other than spacers and rims beyond my capabilities for the professional results I demand. If you don't mind, side from wheels and tires, what did everything come out to? Would you have done anything different? Congrats on the build,I think it looks cleaner than it did when it was new!
Please forgive my lack of editing 🫣
So sorry for the lack of reply! Thanks for telling me all about your Klein. Thanks for the comments on the bike, I am happy with it and come summer once again I will have it back out. This build was a little while ago now and I am just not sure what it all came to now. The prices were still very high for cycling bits then so I paid a fairly hefty sum for all the bits. Overall its a lovely bike and rides surprisingly well against even against the more modern bikes. I just need to get fit now and it will go much faster! Thanks for stopping by, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Wow that was cheap 👍🏼🚴🏼
And it is still a great bike. Will be racing her this weekend again! Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Very nice 👍🏼
Thanks Paul! Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Thanks for the video, would replacing a Garmin 530 Edge battery be the same procedure? Regards.
Good question. I have not opened up a 530 before but can only imagine it would be similar. I have been debating making a video on a 530 but need to get my hands on one. If you need to open up a 530 then maybe do the same kind of procedure and just take your time. Best of luck! Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Thanks, no problems yet but it is about 3 years since purchase from new.@@timeforbikes
You always need to return your tourque wrench to 0 so it doesn’t stretch out the spring and leave things at a smaller tourque than you want
Great advice, and thanks for leaving this comment. Hope you have a great festive time, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
@@timeforbikes thanks
Your Klein is the star of this show! 😎
Thanks sir! Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Great info on the two Brands, I'm always interested in ' the fit' details of a clothing garment, as more & more of us are buying online. I have just bought some dhb blok thermal tights, to use when I'm out winter mountain bike riding. I also will be wearing some Alpinestar Tahoe over pants.....this helps with the mud, rain and even the snow, here in North Yorkshire 😂. I've ordered a large in the dhb's ....Im only 5'7" have a 34" waste and a short inseam....the dhb reportedly have a shorter inseam than other brands i have looked at? we shall see.
Glad you found this useful. Generally dhb seems to be all over the place with their fitments, fingers crossed everything works out for you. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
This is a GREAT VIDEO! I started gravel riding a couple of years back (Giant Revolt Advanced 2) and really enjoy the challenges of the gravel - kind of like your downhill run. I can't tell you how many times I have gotten to the bottom of a washboarded hill and commented, "YAY! I didn't DIE!"It is almost December (2023) here in northern Virginia (in the States), and I won't be riding gravel again for a few months, so it's great videos like this that help get me through! CHEERS!
Thanks for your kind words, it was a great ride, and yes the gravel bike is just a little harder to survive downhills on! Here in the UK it is often quite hard to find gravel paths like we often see people ride in the states, but we try our best. Hope you enjoy getting back put when you can, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
I destroyed so many things trying to fix it. Some bike locks from Abus (bt enabled), Suunto watch, even a $1700 Nikon lens with a known flaw where a doublesided tap loosens. This stuff looks essy, but needs some skill. I'd rather pay you or someone tond this for me.
When making this I really hoped that it would help others have the confidence to 'have a go'. I understand your concern but I would say that these are not high value items anymore and are relatively simple to repair. Granted, these units are not really supposed to be user repaired as its not something that is a simple battery replacement like say a tv remote. However if you are careful and take your time then this is possible. The 520 is still a very useful little computer and is a real asset to have working to its full potential. If you decide to give it a go then best of luck. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
There are new generation gravel cranks out there with that 50-34 config from the Ultegra. Great build! (By the way, I would've been surprised if you had made that a2z crappy adaptor work!) ;)
Thanks for the comment! I found out now that you can get the a2z adaptor to work if used with a 180 rotor. I think you turn it around and you can get a brake caliper to fit and setup ok. Never tried it though so please dont quote me on that. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Omg, good old butyl tubes. Or even latex tubes with sealant inside.
Beautiful build. Did you find it necessary to adjust the width of the rear triangle to accommodate 11 speed cassette?
No, fitted just fine! Thanks for the comment, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
Very sweet bike, What headset you have on this bike? I got 98's Pina Monviso and I would like to fit a low stack headset like yours> Thank you!
Thanks for the kind comment. So I can get to the bike right now as it is in storage. The headset is a mavic one which looked original. I added a 1inch to 1/8inch adaptor for the stem to fit on and that allowed me to use more modern parts. All worked out well though and I am very happy with the result. Best of luck for your project. Take care and happy cycling!
@@timeforbikes Thank you for the info. my headset is Gran Cru, very good but a bit tall for me, I will try to find the mavic one. Enjoy your bike!
Great video and ive subscribed. Currently bidding on a barn find super galaxy. Quick question if you dont mind answering? How much did you pay for this bike?
Hi, thanks for the kind words and sub! If I remember I paid about £35 for it. It was rough though and the pictures on ebay showed this and may have put off quite a few people from bidding. Hopefully you get a bargain! Take care and happy cycling!
As an early aluminium frame with large-diameter round tubes, doesn't this bike result in a harsh ride?
Yeah, it can be a little harsh, but I I ride a cervelo S5 and that is fairly harsh as well - especially for a carbon bike. Overall it is a lovely bike to ride! Thanks for commenting, take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
well done, I change my Klein Pulse in a City bike with disc brakes and 1x12 gears and 27,5 wheels.
Awesome I bet that looked great, 12sp must be nice. Thanks for the comment. Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
I remember having one of these, my 2 daughters really enjoyed this video
That's great to hear. My little one loved getting involved and hoped others would enjoy it too. Maybe you should invest in one for your kids to have a go on?! Take care and happy cycling 🙂👍
10:26 10:53 11:03
Тоже поставил в этом году на гравийный велосипед эти шины с шириной 43 мм на 28 дюймов. На грунте стало ехать гораздо комфортнее и устойивее, чем на 37 см. WTB Riddler, стоявших в стоке до этого. Могу рекомендовать!