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I'm not sure what you are asking for. I don't have any interviews with people feeding.

@@PsychOutROK you did a interview or video with that ocd players with 25 m power and a lot of kills I thought I saw a similar video when he was 10 million

@@curlyhairkld Ah, no I only have one video with that player on that topic. Must be someone else doing a similar video.

@@PsychOutROK do you know what other CZcams posted this guy?

@@curlyhairkld not sure. Could be omniarch.

I stopped playing RoK in the spring of 2023, so I no longer keep up with the meta or any other game mechanics. Thus, I don't make videos about it any more.

Ah bummer. Well thanks for the ones you made. Appreciate some of these break downs. Is there a way to get access to that excel sheet you made?

@@c.j.reynolds512 I tried to turn it into a Google sheet but so many of the formulas fell apart. There are some advanced functions that seem to work for excel but not for sheets...though I'm no sheets expert.

No. I quit RoK around about the time this video was recorded (looking back).

My rage simulator allows you to remove the counter attack rage. But it's true most calculations assume you are also being attacked.

@@PsychOutROK great! ty : ) I don't know if you have done the simulation specifically looking at the lack of 16 rage per turn. I am almost sure that I can bet that in such simulations, feral nature at 4 or 5, along with horn becomes a lot more relevant. : ) I'd be curious if you have or plan to have such a testing : ) cheers. and ty! great vid!

Hey sorry. I quit playing RoK a while back and didn't want to make a dramatic scene about it.

Hey, can't really say. I quit ROK shortly after Sargons release.

At the time I recorded this video, I had not built in all of the game mechanics into the calculator, just place holders for where they would go. Other values in the calculator are weighted averages that reflect an effect over time. Calculators are not simulators. Effects that occur with some chance probability (e.g., 10% chance to increase skill damage for 3 seconds) can only be estimated by taking a weighted average of their most likely effects over time. The result of a calculator is an average expected result, whereas a simulation would give you a distribution of likely results. That is why you see things like 13.13% skill damage.

I have that too. I'll look it up later tonight and check back here.

@@PsychOutROK looking forward to that! thanks a lot!

It's a good thought, but you are also reducing your uptime for all of the other active skill effects if you do that. The basic question is which is better: getting a bonus 3rd skill every cycle but slow cycles vs. a bonus 3rd sill every other cycle, but faster cycles? I'm pretty sure keeping your cycle speed faster is better long term, even if it means you only trigger joan's 4th every other cycle.

Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!

I will have to update it for Egypt. But essentially, Egypt is best if you are going to rally archers.

That's a good question. I haven't done many analyses with special talented horn of fury (although it is very easy to do) because until recently I didn't even have one. I can start doing some updates with special talented ones.

I haven't tried comparing them directly. They are pretty tricky because it really depends on which commander you are talking about because every active skill is different. And, of course, with AoE commanders it varies as well.

Also, why is Joan getting only 5 turns of rage bonus if primary? Isn't that only when she is secondary?

@@Razznaz Yes, you get 10 more rage for losing on attack and 10 more rage for losing on counter-attack. The metric isn't just total amount of troops lost though. I have a video on this, but (from memory) I think it is actually the percentage of troops lost that counts. My rage simulator has an option to indicate losing the trades as well. In my previous analyses on cavalry commanders, I found it was even more critical to have undying fury if you don't have a horn. I believe I have a rage video looking at Saladin that shows this.

@@Razznaz She only gets 5 turns of rage bonus as primary because the timer resets when the secondary commander fires. So, her active skill gives 2 turns of rage bonus before the secondary commander's active skill starts giving the bonus, which lasts for 3 seconds.

Yeah, I built that sheet. It took a long time.

Unfortunately some of the functions don't convert to Google sheets so I haven't had success in creating a public version.

@@PsychOutROK What about the excel sheet? Any chance to get the hands on it?

@@Sinneth To be honest, I've put a lot of work into that sheet, so just sharing it outright feels a little like giving my work away for free.

@@PsychOutROK Totally understandable, great work!

Some of these are quite a bit more complicated than others, and require simulations (which are much harder to do) rather than calculators like the one I have. Calculators have to approximate and use weighted averages. But in general, mitigations have the same impact as buffs. So, all damage reduction is the same "effectiveness" value as all damage increase. If that makes any sense.

I considered asking it some equipment questions, but I didn't have a great way of evaluating its answer because the reality is that the right answer requires knowing many, many specifications (which civ, holy sites, special units, SoC tech, commanders, etc.). Based on its answers here, I would not consider ChatGPT a great source for answers on that. And, certainly it won't have any (useful) advice about armaments as they were not added until this year. I don't think it has any chance of outperforming my calculator, for example.

Are you asking me? 15% what? In most cases 15% attack or 15% defense will yield better results than 5% health.

@@PsychOutROK woops, would you choose 15% attack or 5% health

Almost universally, 15% attack is going to be more effective than 5% health. How much more depends on a whole host of other factors including troop, civ, commanders, gear, etc. But it is quite rare, if ever, that you'd give up 10% of total stats for a single stat.

@@PsychOutROK thank you for your help

Thanks Redline! ChatGPT is off its rocker, you are definitely on my list of "best content creators!"

Unfortunately, it is not easy to convert to a Google Sheet where I can share it readily. There are lots of formulas on lots of sheets running in the background and some of the functions only seem to work in Excel, not in Google Sheets.

Is there a way to share the excel?

Can you be more specific about where this is coming from? Do you mean the RCF? You are right, it doesn't include any Holy Site's from the LK. I can add the RCF pretty easily.

@@PsychOutROK when we rebuild the fortress with donating heads. We get 40%damage buff after the first stage. If i remember it right. Past glory

@@PsychOutROK i made a matlab code to calculate rok stats as you. With 40% damage from kvk buff it will make damage:health ratio 3:2.

@@moutan100 Yes, I did not include the RCF buff. I can add it later today. I think it is 40%, but I don't remember exactly (not in KVK right now).

@@moutan100 I can't be 100% confident until I go back through the calculations myself, but because all damage is calculated at the end, my intuition is that this won't affect the ratio at all. That is, all damage -- to my recollection -- should not have the diminishing returns we see with other stats because it is an end of formula multiplier.

Skill damage is a bit trickier as it depends on the march's base skill damage factor and, of course, how frequently it fires it's skills (it gets especially tricky with Joan who fires more frequently). But normal damage and counter-attack are pretty straightforward to calculate. But yes, all damage includes attack, counter-attack, and skill damage.