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Welcome to Simply Railway, your weekly dose of trip reports by train across our world.
New video every Friday 16:00 CET (Central European Time)
French temporarily based in Kansas City
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RENFE’s Brand New High Speed Train - Talgo AVRIL
Hola a todos!
The new @talgoSpain AVRIL is finally here after years of development and testing. RENFE finally has a flagship train to go out and conquer Europe. But is this train any good?
Let's find out!
Enjoy, and don't forget to like/leave a comment to help the channel :-)
- TRIP INFORMATION -
Date: MAY 21ST 2024
Railway company: @talgoSpain @renfe
Route : Madrid-Chamartin to Gijón
Time : 3h36
Price : 71,80€
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Michael S Wilhelm ; David Hoyt ; Terry Patterson ; Spencer Brownlee ; m kirby ; Stephane Thienel ; Virginie ; Manuel Guedes-Vieira ; Mats ; Allan Waldron ; Michael Joost ; Edwin Coates ; Hugh Johnson ; Gregoire P ; Severin Durand ; Jay Newman ; Calvin Mangubat ; Orion ; MacLean ; Fred M ; Andrew Oliva ; Myles Freborg ; Maxime Hurtrel ; Sol Miranda Weiner ; Dr Buckton ; Richard Rieben ;
BenG ; Brendan D ; Bradley Seeman ; Nikola M ; Patrick G ; Chris Souka ; Lord Philip Zornes ; Vinnie ;
Chris Colles ; Andrew McGovern ; Szymon ; 160to4 ; Quentin Cvz ; András Tiringer ; Larry Garlock ; Gabriel
00:00 : Intro
00:35 : Madrid-Chamartin
02:00 : Top competition
02:22 : The Talgo AVRIL
04:26 : Boarding
04:54 : Seat Check
06:01 : Depart / trip info
06:46 : Entertainement system
07:30 : Out of Madrid! Rapido!
08:10 : Breakfast service
08:37 : Issues
09:40 : Valladolid
10:11 : High speed carpet
10:43 : Shake da laptop
10:52 : Another Avril
11:40 : Mid Roll Ads
12:28 : Walkthrough
16:00 : Toilets Time
16:27 : Cambiador
17:27 : Classic line
17:45 : New line through the Cantabrian mountains
19:00 : Faulty... once again
19:26 : Conclusion
20:28 : Outro
The new @talgoSpain AVRIL is finally here after years of development and testing. RENFE finally has a flagship train to go out and conquer Europe. But is this train any good?
Let's find out!
Enjoy, and don't forget to like/leave a comment to help the channel :-)
- TRIP INFORMATION -
Date: MAY 21ST 2024
Railway company: @talgoSpain @renfe
Route : Madrid-Chamartin to Gijón
Time : 3h36
Price : 71,80€
LINK FOR MY BOOK ABOUT NIGHT TRAINS!
- BOOK IN 🇫🇷 : www.fnac.com/a16082670/THIBAULT-CONSTANT-Trains-de-nuit
- BOOK IN 🇩🇪 : www.dorlingkindersley.de/buch/thibault-constant-petra-sparrer-mit-dem-nachtzug-durch-europa-9783734206634
LINK TO THE NEW CHANNEL : Minitrak by Simply Railway czcams.com/channels/gV2ympxK8JW2xLWZEPD5ZA.htmlvideos?app=desktop&view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0
- PATREON PAGE : www.patreon.com/simply_railway
- INSTAGRAM - simply_railway
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Massive thanks to my following Patreon for their help :
Claudio Bickel ; Martin Haynes ; D Austin Horowitz ; Thomas Alfred Roell ; Captain Ginyu ; Andreas Konrad ; Christopher Style ; Dick DeBartolo ; Nicholas Torres ; Nick Reed ; Philippe Branco ; Tom Van Baren ; Ian Earle ; Robin Roemisch ; Michael Romero ; Fin Ross Russell ; Frederic R Merchant ; RAH ; Robyn Jackson ; William George ; John Michael Dornoff ; Trevor Key ; Fabricio ; Linda Vainomae-Hoffmann ; Jeffrey Williams ; Shane Edmonds ; Dave Ferrell ; Bea Dan ; clearingrubble ; Charlie Myers ; Bill ; jpjh ; David Bonet ; Eric Schmidt ; John S Baldyga ; Will Ho ; Sam Couch ; Dennis Field ; Raging_lemons ; Daniel De Marta ; Shawn Morse ; Benny Wong ; Jason Rabinowitz ; Szeming Lau ; Peter ; Dining Car ; Robert Badgett ; Paul Hurst ; Leonard McCants ; Garl Boyd Latham ; TravelBlogger.com ; Jaymar7456 ; Nick Russo ; RJ B ; Parigino 48 ; Magikarp ; James O'Donnell ; Danny Anderson ; Marc van der Lee ; Pierre Bourry ; Mark Schutter ; Jennifer M Zukawski ; Pierre Chevalier ; Caracole ; Tommy Penner ; ursus arctos ; Joe Grubbs ; Matthew Edwards ; Peter Harrison ; Arthur Sievers ; Geogast ; Mind K ; Warren Avis ; Jun Plas ; Per Ove Persson ; Robert Mersereau ; Manuel Sauleda ; Christian Emde ; Nicole ; Bart Nadeau ; Michèle ; Rick ; Mary Ann Bernard ; Surina Brewer ; Patrick J Knapp Jr ; Tom Barton ; George Dover ; Cornelis Kater ; Louis P Sauve ; Kraisorn Sapp ; Lois Johnson ; Raymond Dubois ; Stephen Repetski ; Adam Wickens & Hazel Smith ; David Novak ; Dirk Schultz ; Peter Kelly ; Roy. Parker ; William E Gray ; Tom Graham ; Matias ; The Foxyb ; Killergen ; Fernão Gondin ; Dennis Mabrey ; Mr Maurice ; Ben Owen ;
Michael S Wilhelm ; David Hoyt ; Terry Patterson ; Spencer Brownlee ; m kirby ; Stephane Thienel ; Virginie ; Manuel Guedes-Vieira ; Mats ; Allan Waldron ; Michael Joost ; Edwin Coates ; Hugh Johnson ; Gregoire P ; Severin Durand ; Jay Newman ; Calvin Mangubat ; Orion ; MacLean ; Fred M ; Andrew Oliva ; Myles Freborg ; Maxime Hurtrel ; Sol Miranda Weiner ; Dr Buckton ; Richard Rieben ;
BenG ; Brendan D ; Bradley Seeman ; Nikola M ; Patrick G ; Chris Souka ; Lord Philip Zornes ; Vinnie ;
Chris Colles ; Andrew McGovern ; Szymon ; 160to4 ; Quentin Cvz ; András Tiringer ; Larry Garlock ; Gabriel
00:00 : Intro
00:35 : Madrid-Chamartin
02:00 : Top competition
02:22 : The Talgo AVRIL
04:26 : Boarding
04:54 : Seat Check
06:01 : Depart / trip info
06:46 : Entertainement system
07:30 : Out of Madrid! Rapido!
08:10 : Breakfast service
08:37 : Issues
09:40 : Valladolid
10:11 : High speed carpet
10:43 : Shake da laptop
10:52 : Another Avril
11:40 : Mid Roll Ads
12:28 : Walkthrough
16:00 : Toilets Time
16:27 : Cambiador
17:27 : Classic line
17:45 : New line through the Cantabrian mountains
19:00 : Faulty... once again
19:26 : Conclusion
20:28 : Outro
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NEVER use government companies. Public services in spain are garbage. Use Iryo.
Many years ago, when the line was inaugurated to Tarragona, which is not BCN, I got into a Velaro almost newly released, I trembled as if I was dancing salsa, over time they became my favorite AVE train, I understand that a train can have small details to solve at the beginning, what if I agree with you is that after a train with so much time in study and in tests, it still has problems of this caliber, however it is RENFE and not Talgo who accepts this type of trains, and of course it's a shame for the awesome Spanish technology that these things happen.
the Issue of the 3 different gauges in use in Spain is specially a big issue in the north of the country. We have metric, iberian an standard gauge and the different gauges imply different quality services. The metric gauge is bad, really bad served with incredibly old trains and non existent long range trains and the regional services with average speeds of 30 to 40 km/h on services that can span up to 200 km (so do the math for the travel times). Thus, the need for gauge changing trains is a competitive advantage for Talgo and a way to secure contracts within Spain. the EU has mandated that all tracks should be converted to standardad gauge but I heavily doubt we will ever see such thing, as the implications are massive.
18:45... Are u sure??? So you are more informed than the engineer or the train itself? haha Comments like that makes me push the dislike button!
One of the many "narratives" or "inventions" in this video.
Exterior and interior looks great, the ride quality is in my opinion very poor. Good video and very interesting one, i never knew they are high-speed train that have very poor ride quality special for a new rolling stock. Greating from Indonesia🇮🇩❤
The ride quality is not that bad (there are lots of videos in social media on this), the clips in this video have been cherry-picked in (well known) sections of the railway that are bumpy. This guy is french and hates Spanish train makers and Spanish rail infrastructure with a passion(you can check his other videos in Spain). This despise of everything foreigner is part of french culture (the famous chauvinism) and this Avril train , if succesful is considred a huge threat to the French rail industry. Hence the hate and the contruction of narratives
@@user-hq6hb2xv4n I'm sorry to ask this, obviously I'm not from Spain or any European countries, just curious, why the rail is certified to be used for high speed train if it is known to be bumpy? Isn't it the most important thing to be taking care and making sure the track is smooth first before any high speed train run on that section of track? Even Japanese Shinkansen will immediately stop operation if the track found to be bumpy to be used. Genuinely asking because idk the regulations on Spain of high speed train track certification.
@@daviano_R.T. The track certification procedure in Spain is the same as in France and not very different from that of Japan. And all railways in the world have imperfections, even Japan. Talgo's unique technology (they dont use boggies) makes their trains lighter, faster taking corners due their natural basculation capabilities and able to change gauge on the go, but the price to pay is they amplify a bit the vibrations compared to boggie-based trains. This doesn't mean they are more unsafe, the natural basculation and pendulation , as anyone with basic physics knowledge knows, can be a bit uncomfortable but is even safer than non-basculating trains.
I wish I could go on this train.
I Never Seen a screen on all seats on a train
The engine looks like class 374 LoL
Real bad Renfe chose to do 3+2: That's for low cost Avlo and no 2+1 on AVE? Also looks like Talgo needs to fix problems in quality control.
I took that trip in bith directions in 2012. Fortunate for a front seat in the Panoramic Car both ways. Got some terrific photos, too!
how can you ask if there are any plans to improve Chamartin??? haha didn't you see half of the building under construction?? lol. Anyway, here you can see how it will look in a few years: czcams.com/video/AxTO5IZitsI/video.html&pp=ygUZY2hhbWFydGluIHN0YXRpb24gcHJvamVjdA%3D%3D
Yeah, I thought the same, it's impossible not to realize Chamartín is a huge construction site right now.
The locomotive looks cool! Why couldn't the Amtrak Cascades sets look like that? Not convinced though that Talgo is quite up to par with the safety and performance of trains from Siemens, Alstom, etc.
When Talgo manufactured trains capable of exceeding 200 km/h in the 1950s, both French and German did not exist.
Therefore I do not think that the French and Germans have to teach Talgo to make trains
habrá que ver si se mueve tanto el tren en ruta y si los asientos son tan malos, la experiencia de muchos y no sólo la de uno puede marcar la reputación del tren
Nice train👍it was a bit shaky for a modern train, the tracks probably need to be replaced
10:43 Some movement is no big deal but this quick shaking is bad for laptops that still have rotating harddrives. In that case better have a backup
Ah, the memories. We can't serve you a real meal because--you, know--COVID. Makes a lot of sense. Basically every service provider used this excuse for two years. Thank God it's over.
Honestly looks pretty good for a talgo train... I mean here the railways explicitly stated not to buy more talgo trains as they are considered cheap lower quality alternatives.
Czechia! Not The Czech Republic!
Chamartins station has aged very poorly. But there have been remodelation works that will make it look a bit better
I wished they also serviced Portugal
its a high margin train and clearly designed for good service rather then complete comfort
The L in Talgo Ligero which must have some effect on the noise and vibration. I do not like the 5 across seating but can understand why it is done. Confort Clase should have some single seats, though there is plenty of room.
My Dreams is ride this train in Poland tracks...
je pensais que les talgo 350 étaient plus confortables
I could never welcome a crappy train from a crappy country where people are treated like worthless pieces of shit.
This train has come with 2-3 years of delay and it has software problems, apparently the software of the train causes false emergency alarms and stops the train. Talgo is in big trouble now, they don't have enough money and you can see the result in this train. They're trying to find a buyer. A Hungarian company tried to buy them, but the Spanish Government didn't allow it because Orbán could be behind the bid and Talgo is considered a very important company for Spain.
Second day of operation to Asturias: trains full to the brim and no delays. As expected, these trains will be a huge commercial success.
the entertainment system looks like a botch job to me; it's like they took a batch of android tablets, injected their software on them with some content and functionalities, deemed it good enough and called it a day
Great breakfast in 1st class - large portion and best placement - better than the best European short haul / medium haul business class!
I reckon your overspeed and possible derailment was either the brakes not being properly fixed due to your earlier problem or simply pressure to make up time from the stoppage for the brake problem. Either way that is not a good way to start a rail service.
Chamartin is undergoing renovations as part of Madrid Nuevo Norte project, the biggest urban developement in Europe for the next 15 years. It's a mess right now but there will be impovements, you can search for "nueva estacion chamartin" and read more about it. adif es/proyecto-chamartin
Thello is the coolest night train in Europe
Man you are in my hometown! In fact I was on the train you crossed at the intercambiador.
Could we see Alstom Avelia TGV with 5 seats in a row ? I mean does this trains are sufficiently large enough for that ? I think SNCF is not interested but it could be helpfull for Ouigo or the KevinSpeed service if it become real
Too shaky. Seats are small. Great speed. Nice free meal for Confort Class. Engine at both ends makes turn around quicker and easier. Thanks Thibault
for me the engines looks terrible....
Good video! I will take the new s106 Avril service in low cost service (Avlo) on 12/6 from Barcelona to Lleida and back. And i hope will take Avlo s106 Madrid-Valencia and AVE s106 Madrid-Asturias and Madrid-Galicia in October
Be careful, your life will be in great danger inside such a horrible train with no space for bikes and that awful carpet. Lo peor de lo.peor
Madrid Chamartin is currently on a full reconstruction process, that is why right now the station is a mess
Screens on seats strike me as a huge waste of money. Screen on planes makes sense because you very often don't have an internet connection and your luggage is very limited (so it is convenient that you don't need to bring your tablet/laptop if you want a big screen). But on trains, stable WiFi with some cached content is the way to go. Mobiles work most of the time and you can easily put your tablet in the luggage, no one is weighting/measuring it.
0:13 you said :Between Pahis and Karlshuhuue!
0:09 It’s *Montreal* not Monreal for pronunciation !😂😂
0:02 Even you are annoying!😂
Seriously, why is everything so grey and lifeless inside this train ? This honestly looks more depressing than up to date.
Lovely trip. I like that the rest of the people in the carriage seemed nice and quiet
Well that’s one way to keep the coaches light. Just put plane seats on them
If you follow that logic, why installing screens in the first place ?
@@SimplyRailwayThe screens seem mostly useless but also harmless, I don't understand your fixation with them. In my opinion this train, with all its flaws, is ideal for low cost services and it is going to be a huge success, not only in Spain. You can buy several Avrils for the price of 1 TGV M (which by the way is not running any srrvice yet). Noisy and shaky as it is, operators will still consider buying Avrils for their low cost high speed services.
@@SimplyRailway well, that is in line with placing plane seats in a train
No bike space, that is a shame! Thank you for the video👍🇪🇺
13:33 Here’s to answer your question for bikes on High speed trains in Europe they can’t let you onboard with a bike trying to ride on HSL 😂.
Well... people say that the IETs and Azumas in the UK ride badly. The Talgo AVRIL certainly tops it's! 😅 As for the 2+2 in first and 3+2 in standard, if the seats were of a better quality comfort wise then they would be expectable on AVE.
2 + 2 in first class is very questionable, 3 + 2 in second class is just beyond ridiculous. Only two first class cars will likely mean that it’ll be cramped all the time. How on earth will you convince business travelers to choose the train over the plane with this?!
First hand experience from yesterday evening: I used the Avril Avlo service from Zaragoza to Madrid. Uneventful and pleasant trip. Noise and shaking similar to that of the S130s, nothing extraordinary or too bad. Seats are a bit narrow and hard, they are the same model installed on other Avlo models. They are perfectly ok for a low-cost service under 2 hours. The interior is nice and the train is roomy and well distributed. Overall, a modern high capacity , high speed train which is ideal for low cost services and trips under 3 hours (the majority in Spain). Honestly, I don’t understand why so much drama around this train. All Avrils will end up as Avlos eventually, when the new S-107 series (300 kmhr, gauge-changing narrow cabin "normal" Talgos) are delivered. Spanish Northwestern corridors and services into Portugal are going to need gauge-changing HSTs for several decades.
Finaly, IS Renfe...