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I wonder if a jag port based on the st could play better.

LoL we played this with brother as small kids, first tower is easy :)

Went through a few 'sticks' plating this

I went though a few 'sticks' with this game

Can't believe no one mentioned flood ..... audio on that was amazing

IIRC, A Myconid is a class in D&D which is a type of anthropomorphic mushroom At 16:41, That is a very strange looking skeleton!

Sounds in the game clearly come from fights in Bruce Lee movie, "Enter the Dragon".

It's funny how the referee always hopes for Red and Blue to do better and improve, but a single loss by White leads to him being thrown out of the tournament!

Music by Dave Lowe? Is it perhaps the same David Lowe who composed music for BBC World 2001-2003?

Love the way you have compared the games, excellent viewing as always mate❤

The Atari ST had pretty awful sound, and by extension, music. However talented musicians still sometimes managed some surprising results. The original Xenon has probably the best music I have heard the ST pump out.

Super Sprint is so good! The only game I other game I can think of is Hot Rod, a conversion of a Sega arcade game.

There was an overhead racing game that I remember playing a lot, but I can't for the life of me remember the name. I think it was a shareware game and the main thing that differentiated it was that it had a map editor. Other than that, it was the usual cars racing, oil spils to spin you around and power-ups.

This is definitely one of my all time ST favourites. I believe the idea behind the extra lives is that every eighth Oid you rescue is a pilot - never had this verified though. Your nova (?) bombs can go through rock as well; I used to have great fun flying at speed, letting a bomb fly and taking out enemy defences before they could even see me! Had to be careful not to fry the little guys though. Happy days. 😊

An awesome 3D engine, so smooth, amazing with just an 8Mhz Motorola 68000 processor that does virtually everything.

Nice game like it on DOS with 02 music adlib or SB

James Haunt 🤞

I wrote this! Many years ago now, nice to see it getting some love.. Unusually we were allowed to do a ground up rewrite, rather than a straight port of the Amiga version. Allowed us to tailor things to get the most out of the ST. Ive worked on many games since, but still have fond memories of this one.

Me hungry for Part 2 :panic: Not really, this one was so cool and when you time you have time. If not ever there is a great mystery for aliens.

Nice. I would add Hotball to your list, that was definitely a stinker.

Another awesome video 👊 Thank You. Kick Off over KO2 for me, just as Speedball over SB2. Still fire up the ST for a raz on Kick Off now.

Back in the day one of the computer magazines ran a 'goal of the month/season' competition where you could send in your best goals that you'd saved to disk with the possibility of winning a prize and/or a trophy. Unfortunately I never got around to sending in any of the masterpieces that I scored. 😢 Sensi was a lot more playable, but 'technically' Kick Off 2 was king. One of the greatest feelings in all my years of gaming (which encompasses its entire history) was when I scored a 'worldie' whilst playing Kick Off 2. Sensi was more fun, but Kick Off 2 was more gratifying. It was the football equivalent of the Dark Souls games.

I remember having 2 versions of italia 90. One being italia 90 and italia 90 world cup soccer where you the screen would alter to behind the goal and you'd have to move the keeper which was very odd and difficult. Also had Manchester United in europe which was good and of course Sensible soccer was king. Me and my mates would often talk in code in front of parents "feel like being sensible?"

Excellent game and thanks for the playthrough Joy of Sticks! I think this came out after I had already largely shifted to the PC from the ST - this looks great!

The font used at 2:52 and elsewhere is a dead giveaway that the artwork and probably the main coding was done on Amigas. Probably Deluxe Paint.

European Champions (also known and Olympic Marseille or Lothar Matthias) published by Ocean was an upgrade of Emlyn Hughes, including widening the narrow pitch you mention, and really good graphics too . I played both KO2 and Sensi to death so will be interested to see what you conclude on that video.

Great video, thanks man. Kick Off was the 1st game I bought for my ST (after the Power Pack). I spent thousands of hours with it and Kick Off 2 Europe.

Great video Marc. I spent hours playing Sensi and Kick Off 2. Sensi you could just pick and play so it was good fun for a casual game. Like you said in the video, you had to put the time in to get good at Kick Off 2 and it was so much more rewarding to play as a result. If anyone complained that Kick Off was too hard or uncontrollable, I just thought they haven't played it enough! Kick Off 2 is the the number one for me!

Agree to your ratings. Microprose Soccer we played a lot back in the days and it was always fun. Striker was also nice. Once I scored a free kick goal in the 89th minute, that was great! But I failed in the penality shooting. KO2 and Sensie both are fun, even we played KO and later KO2.

Where is "El phenomeno" on the top of tierlist ? Hoo he's the wonder kid

Don't forget International Soccer Challenge and Olympique de Marseille Super Football Kick off 2 absolute fan, SSoccer was really fun but 2nd

Is that supposed to be La Grange by ZZ Top?

Gazza's Super Soccer should def be in the bottom tier. Absolutely unplayable. Remeber reading the ads for it and getting it for the c64. Terrible Game

Love these tier videos! I remember having International Soccer Challenge on my Atari ST, weird one but not that bad!

Those gazza games need to go down a level. No way any of them can be in the same level as microprose soccer.

Kick of 2 was brutal, and we loved it for it. Sensible soccer was a great game, but when you scored a goal in Kick Off , it like you scored the winner at Wembley.

Kick Off 2 & Sensible are too good to die, no matter which one is the best... in my country Greece, there are yearly competitions for both these soccer games... these competitions take place in luxurious hotels and a lot of people participate

Awesome video, Marc 🍻 I actually pre-ordered Gazza's Superstar Soccer for the Amiga, but when I went to collect it from my local computer shop... I saw the newly released Stunt Car Racer running 😲 and bought that instead. Yippee! 😁 Then the brilliant Kick Off became an obsession; me and my friends were always playing it for hours and hours. The same with the even better Kick Off 2. 😀 After that... the sensational Sensible Soccer 🥳 became the de facto footy game that had people hooked for years and years. It was the pinnacle of 16-bit football. 😎

Sensible soccer, what great game on ST. My top on ST.

I didn't know Sensible Soccer was available on the ST! Out of the games I can distinguish in the list I think we had the most fun with Italia 1990. Never really gave Kick Off proper chance as it was too challengeing. Another game I remember that I can't spot on the list is Super Soccer Challenge. I'm not sure if it was actually any good, but you could edit your team colors and shirt patterns which I absolutely loved.

Be great if you did a football manager/ment version of this type of video.

Great to see u back fella!!

Love it 😀 Definitely a tricky decision between Sensible Soccer and Kick Off 2! Can't wait to see the next part, particularly your thoughts on Team

Kick off was the one for me on the ST & later the Amiga. Incidentally, on the amiga disk you could load up the gfx into DPaint & mess around with them. Dunno if the same could be done wirh the ST version

Great vid as always, I was just like you Emlyn Hughes to kick off to Sensible, for me Sensible was by far the best and would only have sensible in top section so far, I couldn’t get away with kick off personally, I got really frustrated trying to dribble etc, when I started playing sensible it made it so much more fun the way the ball would stick to the player more, just my opinion, sensible did have my team Sunderland in the special teams as they played in the 1992 FA Cup final against Liverpool so maybe I’m being a bit biased 🤣 Used to love Emlyn Hughes too, and I can agree with one thing, Peter Beardsley soccer defo needs to be at the bottom, that game was sooooo bad man 😂

I can’t remember how many controllers I killed on kick off2 before moving to sensible soccer. I would definitely rank both in the highest tier both having such different vibes and quality. Thanks for this video can’t wait for the second part especially since I have seen Manchester United which i played at a friends and I can’t remember accurately …

For me kick off 2 is the better game in terms of the sheer amount you can do on the pitch but Sensi has the better presentation. Kick Off 2s menus and stuff look like an unfinished tech demo in comparison. Also I will rep in advance for Manchester United In Europe - which is as far as I know the only “arcadey” football game where your players can be booked for dissent.

Ah, the promise of a Sensi - Kick Off comparison, yes!!

AFAIK, of these, i've only played the dino dini titles and SENSIBLE. i remember seeing STRIKER on GAMESMASTER, whenever that was. other systems? ISS on the SNES got a bit of play.