Citizen FURIOUSLY Confronts Jeff Stelling Over ALLEGED Bias In Manchester City's FFP Coverage! 🤬🔥
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He's right about, not just the media, but people in general educating themselves. They'd rather just comment 115 for likes
115
@@owencurtis9198 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
@Bert-lw1ot not a sheep just know the truth city guilty it must hurt to know all the "success" is built on cheating 🤣🤣
@@owencurtis9198 you are proving the guy in the videos point perfectly mate!
No one gets 115 charges by accident haha@@Bert-lw1ot
Jeff clearly got rattled after being called out. He knows it’s true.
- LiVARpool caught Hacking
- LiVARpool not called Cheats
- City found Not Guilty in Court
- City are called Cheats?🤣
Not a city fan, but big respect to this city fan. I think he was spot on.
The 2nd caller was a perfect example of what the 1st caller was complaining about! 😂
💯 facts
Oh the irony!
This caller was great. Absolutely spot on.
Hapoy 130th birthday Manchester City football Club
Formed in 2008 !!!!
@@DoyleArmstrong41 ?
He was spot on made them 2 smirking cats look like clowns
They're smirking because they know they aren't allowed to say what they and most fans think, that city as a business is as corrupt as corrupt can be.
It's an absolute joke that the case is taking this long, it's been ages but like we all know, city have history of delay tactics during legal proceedings
All football pundits are bias sky sports news us a Man utd propaganda channel
Who cares? All opinions are biased as a matter of fact. You appear to have a bias against Sky Sports News, for example. Bizarre that so many men are crying about "bias" nowadays
EVERYONE IS BIASED
As a football fan (not City), it annoys me intensely when idiots start talking about any clubs, especially clubs like City and Chelsea and claim 'there is no history.' Both clubs are well over a hundred years old and between them hold the highest attendance records (on a single day) at their respective grounds. Very many clubs have long and important histories, and just because they may not have won prestigious titles prior to a wealthy takeover, that does not mean they are any less significant than the speakers favourite club. Personally, when I think of clubs with a history I tend to go towards Notts County, Aston Villa and Arsenal. Arsenal, especially, have a special importance in the game - and again, I am not a Gooner.
It's a tribal thing. They fear being knocked off their perch. Jealousy, copium, hatred, rivalry, a mix of everything.
But I mean, having said that, it is kind of true sometimes. City were not a big club until that money came in. What makes it worse for other teams is that nobody can do that now either. So it sucks.
@@Behold__Optic_Blast Exactly. Moronic fans of the top red clubs have convinced themselves that history = trophies. Well in that then basically no clubs but top European sides have a history. Becausse literally 90% of most clubs in world football don't win trophies.
Forgetting the fact that Arsenal never won promotion but instead paid a bribe to the FA for admittance to the old first division and at the same time got Spurs thrown out of the division.
Try learning a bit of history before mansplaining it to others
@@Behold__Optic_BlastCity got the 3rd biggest crowds in the country 20 years ago to this very season.
6th most trophies ever.
Only club to play in Manchester
@@tomben6180 you did not have the 6th most trophies 20 years ago, ya little liar. 😂
The way rival fans of city try to downplay them at every turn is just sad tbh. Pure jealousy, it's embarrassing. I don't like the way it happened either, but at some point you have to accept that's the way it is and stop being a dumbass about it. A double treble would eclipse anything we've ever seen in this country, and they are close to pulling it off.
No its because you bought a big squad that no one else can compete against
Nobody's downplaying the coach and teams performances, it's the business that we despise because of how incredibly corrupt it is, that's not jealousy, that's fans caring about the integrity of the competition
@@scottking869 I don't support City.
@@philbarton2832 yes they are. Incredibly
@@Behold__Optic_Blast Yes sure there will always be a section of fans that are bitter or jealous but most fans all over the country only care about the fairness and integrity of the competition. Football in England is a religion, and it's extremely important fans know the football pyramid stays true to it's ways but more and more we're becoming disillusioned because of all the underhanded politics getting involved.
A literal oil state owns a football club...how can anyone in their right mind think that's ok! It's a complete and utter joke
The other has been.caught out. They never thought that ee City will dominate the league and Man United sre in the dumps. The world os blue 💙💙💙🔵🔵🔵 VIVA City
Please calm down whilst typing and just read it back to yourself before posting
Caller was spot on - these pundits know it but want to create division and hatred towards Man City. Thats a fact.
There's a valid reason that Man City are hated. It's because they always cheat to win.
The rules are being changed to help arsenal who are 52 million over and utd who need to spend, i want it to stay the same
I agree. The media has pro-Liverpool and pro-Man United bias. Tottenham are also one of the media darlings.
Why does "bias" make you cry? Lol
The media are scared to say anything negative about Liverpool…..
Pro man utd? They get slated every week 😂
- Lpool,Utd,Assna,Spuds Owners conspired Super League
- City Owners collapsed S.League
- City are considered Cheats?🤣
Spurs get slated constantly by the media .. what are you smoking 🚬❓❓❓
Man City do have history won 2 league titles,4 fa cups, 2 league cups, cup winners cup before before being bought
2 league titles wow
@@David-be7jn There are a huge number of clubs who haven't achieved one so it's a huge WOW add to the RU spots, FA cup wins and RU ECWC, League cup wins and RU there is a significant number of seasons where City have been decent - all before 2010
@@ianblake3127 all with oil money and 115 charges
2008FC
Don’t United fans stink of jealousy, can’t they remember the 60s all won by Man City 🤔
1963 FA cup. 1965 and '67, 1st division championship. 1968 European Cup. All won by United.
2/04/1915 matchfixing
Breaking ffp is only a crime cos the big clubs made it a crime to stop us winning THEIR trophies. Won it all spending less than man u therefore thats fair. No case to answer!
FFP isn't fit for purpose
🤡🤣 whatever fits the narrative huh.
🤨🤦 It's not about how much you spend it's about how much you earn. Utd spend whatever they want because they EARN their money whereas there are major questions over city's spending and how in fact they earn.
City's earnings simply don't add up, anyone with a brain can see that but they continue to spend huge amounts of money while at the same time repeatedly fail to cooperate with legal proceedings at every turn. They absolutely stink of corruption
Who owns the trophies?
100% correct
This guy Lee spoke Absolute truths as opposed to Brad, the utd fan, who spoke 100% bullshit and spoke from hate as opposed to intelligence!...🤡
My man the City caller has a great point... In England of all paces... in England when most countries use english law... innoccent until proven guilty does not apply in english media... jeff got rattled and school, got reminded what a journalists job is... to inform and not to propergate...
But they're still innocent.. hence they're still allowed to win leagues and buy refs
@@ashwilliams4959 Buying refs ? You have proof of this of course
@@ashwilliams4959 yeah, something the media dont seem to understand or report.
@@toolarmy46and2 Yoh, pound for pound with inflation, fergie almost always spend more, broke transfere records and the ref thing has been around since the 90s, even today its visible that the refs favour the 3 red teams A L M i call them
@toolarmy46and2 maybe the league table isn't enough for some... City are still 3rd behind the clubs that have been robbed by var. If we were to go through city games and judge them on real rules, they'd barely make top 10. City get near enough everything their way until a Liverpool spurs moment then they get a silly call against them when 4 up and all of a sudden their not corrupt cause they had 1 bad call 😂🤦♂️
you can tell Brad had tears in his eyes speaking there. City are growing after some initial financial input, no different to liverpool in the 60s , just need time to establish it. just because you dont like it doesn't mean its not true! time will tell. as for the no history claim .... its just idiotic !
Yes, except Liverpool didn't receive it from a foreign state.
@@kevinb9830neither did City.
I honestly believe all those charges were forced through by other 'top' premier league clubs, and they'll all get egg on their faces when they can't be proven !! The Red top media and their army of knuckle dragging fans will always blame City for how badly run their clubs are or have been. I don't think City fans care if people think Liverpools title meant more to them and neither should they.
To say City don't do shady financial dealings is so naive. They are even sponsored by their state ffs 😂
Whether the charges actually come to punishment is one thing. But CAS only stopped man city's UCL ban from the techincality that the evidence was older than 8 years... which aparently made it outside UEFA's juristriction. The question of whether City are guilty or not... isn't a question. The question is how much money are the premier league willing to pay lawyers to try and uphold any charges... because City will fight it for years and have more money.
"knuckle dragging fans"? That's odd seeing as city are in the top 3 of the arrests league 😂
It's funny how delusional city fans are. So can Everton or Palace not only compete, but completely outspend current city, arsenal and Liverpool (if they spent their full budget) without needing to sell players either?
@@northernbloke6787 Wrong. UEFA's evidence that wasn't time barred was judged by to be insufficient, unsatisfactory and incomplete. Who is to say that the time-barred charges weren't of a similar unsatisfactory standard either ? Certainly not you. Anyway, I see your mind is already made up no matter what the outcome of the not so independent commission.
Fantastic call!!!! Well said
Thanks
why we didn't hear about the ffp charges when arsenal or liverpool where on top of the league? why now HUH?
We've heard about it for the past 3-4 years 😂 and every poor ref decision in cities favour it gets brought up again. So after every game 😂
We've heard about them all season
Winning comment. Negative City news dominates whenever they're on top or winning. There is a clear and set agenda against the football club.
Hope City's owners and legal team are taking notes of every single thing. FA wants to try apply the blowtorch? Let them
Because they didn’t think those bottlers would bottled 😂
@@ashwilliams4959Wolves away, Liverpool home, Spurs home. At least 3 games horrendous decisions cost City points.
It must be horrible for all these fans of opposing teams too have Man City constantly in their heads.
Correct, the 115 charges are firmly in the heads of football fans in general, if they have cheated they have also cheated their own fans, the oil money from Abu Dhabi success will mean nothing
@@jimrobertson9011 as a Man City fan couldn’t care less what other fans think of the club I support. This is all being driven by the media to discredit City, even if found not guilty of any charges they’ll be accused of bribery. I believe city will be vindicated in the end as the Premier League couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery. Then I hope City sue everyone who has tried to discredit them especially 🛎️🔚s like Simon Jordan. Jamie spit the dog carragher and Stan the woman beater collymore.
Name one of the charges ya jealous plank your teams shite that’s not citys fault de jong,kompany,zabaleta grafters every one not proms donnas like most of the prem players!!!!
Great call by the City fan. The following caller just came across with the usual salty rhetoric.
City has shown that media in England is biased. Utd. Liverpool and all English teams have pumped money in their teams. City got Pep and English media said he couldn't do that in England, wait he humiliates their Ligue, changes their game for the better and now they want to undermine that success. Pep is the reason you are hated City.
Lol. Why are so many men crying on the internet about "English bias"? All opinions are biased. Who cares about that?
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotthat's your opinion, isn't that biased then?
@@mancuniangamecat8288 Yes, it is. All opinions are biased. Like I said already. What's your point? Why are grown men crying about "bias" all of a sudden? Lol
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotnot all opinions are biased. If I say another team outplayed city, how would that opinion be biased?
If I was biased I wouldn't say that would I?
@@mancuniangamecat8288 All opinions are biased. Please get a dictionary and try to understand the meaning of simple words and phrases. Not sure why you think I am expected to teach you…
They are jealous of city . Another treble loading. Get in
treble?
of course they are jealous😂😂😂
It’s just amazing how aggressive, ruthless and confrontational the media and journalists become when someone criticises them!
A very bitter and jealous Manchester neighbor, where is the so called manchester united 😂😂😂, a club in ridiculous shambles, talking about city as if they didn't spend money than them in the last ten years
not just united no one likes man cheaty115 fc
United are different, they've been 1 of the biggest clubs globally.. your trying to say a Southampton or Norwich or Sheffield United size club, can legitimately outspend a club the size of united(at the time) its utter delusion.
@@Kentishsaxonyeah im a Liverpool fan, when a Liverpool fan backs United, you know the common enemy is upto no good
Yes but despite being god awful and having won virtually nowt for a decade they are STILL entitled to spend more than City because... because... because we fekin say so! 😂🤣
@@ashwilliams4959e trying to say city are same size as Southampton you 🤡
Welcome to the BIGGEST smear campaign in the history of world sport,WHEN CITY are FULLY EXONERATED….hope they have a plan to tackle the disgraceful attack on their reputation….
They'll still say we are guilty
Sue the premier league
@@ChrisFord-fx9kf Great idea sue ourselves
City are boring to watch? You mean every team that plays against us are tactically boring
Spot on that Blue!
No one had an issue when Man utd were winning every year in a very weak PL with hardly any competition.
Played by the rules though
@@David-be7jn Not really, just that there wasn't any so richest ..like Utd could buy superstars like Roy Keene from a rival in Nott's Forest - Utd have always spent shed loads more than most
they didnt commit fraud like man city
Lol, it's mad how people think success and history are the same thing. These people are idiots. City are older than most clubs in the world. There is history there, it's just not glamorous, but it's their history and not yours.
So many people pretend city had absolutely zero trophies before their takeover is astounding
@@Alex123491996 Prior to the investment from the billionaire royal family, City had won the First Division of English football just twice, and only one of those wins post-war. They had 4 FA Cups (2 post-war) and 2 League Cups. They also won the European Cup Winners' Cup in 1970. Great history...
History means significance.
It's like comparing Paris to Chester or some town. They have history but one's history & importance dwarfs another.
@@Alex123491996Ok I'll rephrase for the caller...Man city's history is a joke compared to man utds and Liverpool's.
Better?
@@multipl3That was the 6th most successful trophy count in the country and City had finished on average 6th in the top flight since the formation of the club.
City also hold the record for the highest recorded attendance outside of Wembley for an English game.
City won a trophy before United and won the FA Cup 61 years before Liverpool.
They were league champions 20 years before Arsenal.
If City don’t have history then the vast majority of English clubs don’t.
Liverpool title meant more to them because for 30years they have said “this season will be our season” and Utd fans still live in the early 00’s
Imagine going on TalkSport and complaining about the popularist opinion when that is literally all TalkSport is.
Is sharing your opinion against the mass not allowed?
Haha Brad at the end sooo bitter and crying is unbelievable…so united aresnal Liverpool Everton etc haven’t had money plowed in?? Guy needs to stop smoking the herb 😂
A trafford dodgers fan talking about whats special. united are in the Mud even after spending billions. 😅
Chelsea was the first oil money club but we don’t judge them nearly as harshly for the successes in the Mourinho era. This coming from an arsenal fan
There was no ffp
It's because City are more successful. If Chelsea had Pep, they'd be as successful as City, they spend way more too.
@@tevildo45where did he mention FFP?
@@mancuniangamecat8288 no he means there wasn’t ffp when Roman was pumping oil money into Chelsea
Chelsea were absolutely judged and hated as an instant money machine.
You either didn't grow up in those times to remember or its recency bias.
Infact, Chelsea were probably hated MORE back then, than what City are now
And just how did they get to the top of that tree ??
Through investment. That's how any business or organisation grows
I have enjoyed all of city's wins from 1999 to last seasons treble and a united fan talking positively about Liverpool bloody hell they quickly fall in bed with eachother but they did that back in 1915 and several players were banned for life because of the scandal so they alway revert back to type city are the champions of the world put that in your pipe and smoke it
This is why I don't listen to their morning show. They are ridiculously biased.
Personally, I think there is information out there. Most people do understand that there is a difference. But beyond those who seem to refuse to acknowledge the difference, there are many who, reasonably, find it irritating. It doesn't matter that the nature of City's possible misdemeanors are different, it must rackle if you are a team that is suffering as a result of being found guilty. And let's not forget that they are much poorer than City in the first place.
I don't like the slur that City is a manufactured club. You have to have a huge history in order to be accepted for your success? A huge part of City's success is based around their manager. Is he the greatest ever? Only Klopp, I think, can compare in terms of what he brings out of the players and how he has bought. Manchester United have not been shy of spending money and look where they are.
Buying time for new rules lol when u had Chelsea doing what the fcuked they liked in the early 2000s lets take there titles
Shows how much you know. You cannot buy time for new rules. You are always found guilty or not guilty based on the rules at the time.
City are going to be found not guilty as they haven’t done it, but even if they had, you cannot strip titles for financial breaches, only match fixing.
Happy to educate the educated any time 👍
@@tomben6180 were in the rules does it say that
@@leehaslam5751 Which bit?
In the in the Premier League rulebook, punishments for financial charges include in that section:
1. A fine or financial penalty
2. Points deduction
3. Transfer ban
4. Expulsion from Premier League
There’s no mention of stripping titles and the media have said because it’s not mentioned it cannot happen.
The rules change regularly, you always judge for the rules at the time and that gets updated every time.
@@tomben6180I don't know the connection btw financial braches n titles earned by fb played on the field.
@@NATAR160 That’s exactly why they don’t strip titles for it. A financial penalty usually means a financial punishment.
City are likely not guilty but if they are, it doesn’t take away from Pep or the team.
Man city are cheats and my club cant spend because of FFP what a joke
Cheating at what? Having billions
Sad to see Jeff become senile in his old age. Used to be pretty rationable
The first caller was absolutely right, the media bias is ridiculous, the question posed at the start of the show was ‘city win a double treble, is this bad for football’? If this was Liverpool or United they’d all have been drooling and fawning over them and the possibility of a double treble but because it’s City it has to have a negative spin.
Man utd caller instantly proves the first caller to be 100% correct whilst also making himself look stupid in his pathetic attempts to downplay city's treble..
And over one hundred years of history prove city aren't manufactured.
😂😂 of course they are. Before that money came in they won nothing had were relegated plenty. Even got a new stadium and everything
Man city's history is a joke compared to utds or Liverpools and he's right, under this ownership City are a manufactured club that can't hold a candle to their rivals rich, celebrated history
@@scottking869thanks for your completely pointless reply.
@@scottking869City’s trophy count was in double figures and was the 6th highest in English football.
They’d also won stuff before United, won the FA Cup 61 years before Liverpool and were the first English club to win a domestic and European trophy in the same season!
“Won nothing” 😂🙄
Caller is right. People are just jealous of City’s success and everytime overlook them by mentioning 115.
Shhhhh! Don't mention the charges. There are only 115. 🤫
@@johnmccadden9963 We all know that you are just hurt so badly 😆
@@mofa1987Football is being badly hurt by corrupt cheating. I will heal when the punishments are decided and the fans stop bragging about stolen trophies.
Remember BBC BBC BBC BBC TALK SPORT the most trustful news 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They definitely aren’t innocent of 115 charges and I definitely don’t care if they are guilty
How do you know they aren’t innocent of all charges?
@@tomben6180 there’s no way they brought in more revenue than any other club in the world
@@enzoandmilo7717 Winning things does give you a huge pot as well as having nearly 55k in the gates every week. Interesting that before they won their first prem league, City were the 4th best supported club in the country - mad eh!!!
I'm so glad these 2 bozos are called out. McCoist is clever here. He's silent all the time because he knows it's true.
Someone let Jeff know that David Silva left years ago …
😂 United success came when bought by Glazers. Dont act as if they are winning league since 1910s.
This guy is 100000 percent right
Is it the FFP laws, FA or City's lawyers prolonging the decision process?
Look no matter what the 115 charges will get city put where they belong it’s just taking to long, it’s obvious money has been payed to PL so needs another seperate inquiry as to why it’s taking so long !
Football is a pretty straightforward game. Clear rules that are generally respected and followed. Business is an amoral cesspit full of rats. The rules are made by the rats who govern it, and are deliberately ambiguous and obtuse to allow those same slithery rats to get away with things. When football became all about business, it opened itself up to the amoral cesspit of corruption that comes with business. It became a different game, and City's owners are just better at it than everyone else. Whatever happens, City have just been better on the pitch for the last 10 years, end of. So don't hate the players - it's ultimately 11 against 11 on the pitch - hate the game.
Jeff and that United fan caller are both exactly whats wrong with the media these days
The bias is real whether talksport agrees or not
Oh that’s embarrassing Jeff 😂
Agreed with the callwer!!!
Blackburns title win means more than uniteds treble…. lol we can all give dumb opinions lad.
City have ignored the rules for years. Only God knows why they're to be charged. It's very concerning
He is correct its not the same as Forrest and Everton
I think this chap has been watching too many James Bond and Man From Uncle films 😂
Couldn't understand that united fan's Manc accent. So strong.
Top drawer and spot on from the City fan. Everything is true.
115 man city bought all arsenal's best players and tottenham,s .How many players came through the city's academy.
Daniels Sturridge, Trippier, Foden, Wight Phillips, Sancho, Kasper Schmeickel, Micah Richards, Ben Mee, Brahim Diaz, Palmer, Lavia, Bobb, Trafford, Tommy Doyle, Liam Delap, Barton, Stephen Ireland, Iheanacho, Nedum Onuha, , Tosin Aderibayo, James McAtee, Jason Denayer, Eric Garcia, Angelino and many more came through Man Citys academy
@faghriedaniels How many played in man city team that one the league.
@@anthonylloyd8000There’s 11 of them on that list.
Maybe keep it shut next time?
Watch Ali 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 people forget they all covered Middle east football!!!!! Money Money ££££$£££££££££££££££££$£££££££$££
Are we really to believe that the PL have gone public on 115 separate charges without very firm beliefs that something isn't quite right? They would be opening themselves up for absolute ridicule. Also if City are totally innocent why do they not fully cooperate with investigations? Im sorry but it's pretty obvious why they don't. They have stuff to hide. Send them down to league two and make them start again like Rangers had to. Cheats can't be allowed to prosper.
It's a manufactured club whats had money ploughed in. United haven't had? Some people just talk shite. I'm 50 yrs old watched City since being 4 home and away through all Uniteds glory years that have now gone. Ahhhh there lies the problem 😂
And how did LFC and Utd gain their success? Money ploughed in years ago that's how, manufactured
2/04/1915
no mate organically built with great players not backdooring sponsorship deals with the owner and thier sponsors like man city
Roy off the rovers, we were in the 3rd tier 23 year ago
What’ he’s saying is true. It doesn’t make it right.
David silva?
I agree that Stelling does not seem to be informed. Otherwise he would have pushed back on the claim that Man City have not been proven guilty.
Man City were proven guilty by UEFA, but aquitted due to the statute of limitation.
No they were not. When something is barred by statutory limitation, that case isn't even heard. There is no finding of guilt or innocence because the case is thrown out. Thank God we have a judicial system to keep corrupt organizations like UEFA and the FA in check.
UEFA lol so no execs at UEFA were corrupt ?
That is fundamentally false. City were not proven guilty by UEFA, they were banned by UEFA for 2 years, that was later overturned at CAS, because they stopped cooperating, because UEFA were leaking the evidence City were giving them to the New York Times, so they banned City.
At CAS, the case covered 5 financial years, the evidence for the case was presented for all 5 years by City and UEFA and the CAS ruled that UEFA had no serious evidence, and City’s witnesses and accounts proved innocence.
In the CAS report it states there was no established evidence from UEFA on 9 different occasions.
The first 2 financial years of the case were time-barred, the latter 3 were not, but the evidence was the same for all 5 years and didn’t change year on year, as it was for general accounts.
CAS felt so strongly about it they overturned UEFA’s decision, UEFA then had the right of appeal and declined, because their evidence got hammered.
It’s all in the report, online, that is free, just google it and educate yourself.
Another one who has clearly not read the report.
All clubs have had money pumped into them and been manufactured in the past , utd had money pumped into them in the day same Liverpool did too same it's a really stupid comment to say that because it's more modern they are manufactured well said the city fan ,others learn what's going on without not understanding and state oh it's done guilty then clueless
Boring lying rag spouting rubbish and all about 'histree' again. City won their first major trophy before Utd did and 26 years before Arsenal. No history though 😂
Any club gets money and Pep, they'll win things. Simple....
I don't think we need proof, just analyze Newcastle a much bigger Club compared to Man City after the takeovers...yet they can't really spend despite being the richest club on earth, how did Man City sign Aguero, Yaya, Kompany, David Silva, Robinho, Nasri, at such a short period of time when they didn't have the fan base globally to generate big revenues??
Answer is simple, they used the Sponsors and some bribes to get around that.
Newcastle was never a bigger club than Man City. And almost all of those players you named were signed before FFP started.
Newcastle is owned by the PIF which invests in companies like Facebook, EA Sports and hundreds of other companies. The fact that you believe that the owners of Newcastle would make the whole fund of 500 billion dollars available to a club that accounts for a very small percentage of their investment is just plain silly. Unlike Man City which is a passion project of Sheik Mansoor, Newcastle is just an afterthought to the Saudi owners. Can you really see Amanda Stablehorse being allowed to access 500 billion dollars?
City were winning trophies before FFPR came in and were league champions in 2012 when it was brand new.
They gained Champions League money, new sponsors and already had a world class team by the time FFPR started.
They were miles ahead of Newcastle.
Not bigger club at all. Their gates have been comparable to City's throughout history - they hadn't won a thing since 1950's..definitely not a bigger club..unless you count the gushing meeja's fabricated OTT bias for them. Sunderland are close to Newcastle in size
@@tomben6180 Also our side in the 60' and 70's miles better than NUFC...not many seasons in last 50 years have NUFC finished above City..or had bigger crowds - something the media doesn't mention as it ruins the sh*te narrative of 'loveable geordies' always loyal bull sh*t
Nothings proven!😂😂😂 cas found city guilty hence £8.8 m fine, they got off on a time barr, cheats 115
You contradict your own argument hilariously. If it was time-barred how were City found fined?
The facts are:
- City were only fined for non-cooperation with UEFA, it was reduced to £8m from £50m because CAS agreed City’s reason was justified in that UEFA were leaking information to the New York Times.
- The case was not time-barred, 2 financial years out of the whole lot were. The evidence was the same for the entire case, and covered all financial years, 5 in total, and CAS said UEFA had zero evidence of wrong doing and City’s evidence proved innocence.
- UEFA had the chance of appeal and refused to, why is that don’t think???
Taking so long because a certain club trying to find loopholes..
everyone knows they are cheats!!!
saying just hav to wait. its city who are delaying things
Jeff 😂😂
Manu spent bigger than most clubs
I think ManRAGutd fans should look back in to their own history, if it wasn't far City there would be no MUFC!! City lent them money, players use Main road in order for them to be around now!!! Oh, I forgot; we are just a manufactured club? what does that really mean? or does manufactured really mean "oh you have spent money on players whom you didn't develop yourself" like Ferdinand, Rooney, Vidich, Veron, Irwin, Robson, Huges, Ince, Birtles, Stapleton All bought for at the time, extreme amounts of cash.
Another point when did allegations become charges? Innocent until proven guilty, well we all know that's total b**llocks, especially when virtually all the ragtop media are still in love with FergusonsMUFC era and cannot accept that time and the premier league have moved on.
United is also manufactured club if we go back in time
Even the title of the video is BS 😂
Steven wasn’t wrong
City are great. But they were found guilty and admitted it. They got off. They got a fine. It does stink. It may not be the same but it does look bad. This has nothing to do with the media. Why does it take time?
😂 what have they admitted? You have literally made that up
All the charges were time linked get ready for a meltdown when city get a fine and 2 point deduction MCFC ok
It's fairly hilarious that fegie and liverpool wouldn't have won faff all if ffp existed back then...
LFC even failed FFP recently - 2015 - then they made up a training ground financial agreement to get round it - all professional football is solely money orientated - always has been
@@ianblake3127 100 percent agree
Thats why we call United fans like Brad, The Scum, they have no respect.
Every club that has bought a player is a manufactured club.
City has its own history like every other club in the country, unique to their fans.
Brad the United fan is a disgrace for United. They don't like it when other teams mock their history, yet they go and give it out just as bad to other clubs.
I know lots of United fans, we have the rival banter, but we know what the lines we dont cross. At least we do in Manchester.
Maybe Brad is one of those Southerner United fans that has never even been to Old Trafford?
Blah blah.... Manufacture club $$$ club 115 charges 🙄 & we just keep winning & winning & winning & winning yall teams will never get better til yall focus on your teams ins & out plus keep forgetting about the elephant in the room we have PEP! As long as he here we will win
Jeff spent to much time with Simon Jordan
Once upon a time a seed was planted in an empty field called Anfield and with some careful watering a stadium grew out of the field organically. With some good manure the club was born. Players were also planted and were carefully grown out of the ground. Salah, Van Dyk, Allison etc were carefully picked from the ground. This is the way an organically grown club is built. Unlike other clubs with no history.
2/04/1915 old Trafford
You really don't know your own clubs history. Liverpool were founded by John Houlding (former links to Everton and an Orange man of all things) Littlewoods money propelled them into superstars from late 60's. They could buy the best, and they did, even when mid table in div 2. That huge cash injection from dirty gambling money (let's have it right) saw them smash everyone in 70's and 80's. Money has always talked in pro football - Liverpool, Utd, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Wigan, Wolves, Preston, etc...ALL the same in ethos..spend to win - just some have deeper pockets - end of
No history ? 🤦♂️
Happy 130th Birthday MCFC 🩵
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The evidence is being witheld until the hearing.
These man city fans are in denial.
"Where's the proof?" They keep saying.
This city fan must know that before the new owners city were a nothing club in a nothing stadium.
As soon as the new owners came in they sponsored their own ground for a world record £400 million and suddenly started spending £100m to £250 milion each summer instead of £10 million.😂
The evidence is in the public domain and has already been viewed substantially by CAS in the other case. The premier league think they can get City largely due to time bound nature of UEFA but CAS didn’t take any view on those charges. Nothing to suggest City won’t successfully refute these charges…again.
@@environm3ntalist549 the evidence is being kept private until the hearing. Inflated sponsorships and third party payments to players and managers.
City are cheats and a disgrace to the game. The biggest scandal to ever hit football
Manchester City please everybody love us 😂😂