Best CPUs of 2023 (Intel vs. AMD): Gaming, Video Editing, Budget, & Biggest Disappointment
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We're talking about the best CPUs of 2023 to recap the year. Between new prices and benchmarks, we can now look at AMD vs. Intel offerings for the best gaming CPUs, best CPUs for Adobe Premiere, Photoshop, programming & compile, and efficiency, and more. This round-up is made to try and help PC builders who've been out of the game for a little while quickly get back up to speed, with comparisons between key CPUs like the AM5 Ryzen 7000 & Intel 14th "Gen" parts. Some of the top CPUs for the year include the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD R7 5800X3D, Intel i3-12100F, Threadripper 7980X, and more that we'll talk about.
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BEST OVERALL CPU 2023
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU on Amazon: geni.us/bah9
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU on Newegg: howl.me/ck3xXl7aWU2
GN 7800X3D CPU review & benchmarks: • AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CP...
MOST BALANCED CPU 2023
Intel Core i5-13600K or 14600K (whichever is cheapest)
Intel i5-13600K on Amazon: geni.us/uWzH
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Intel i5-14600K on Amazon: geni.us/lyyHg0
Intel i5-14600K on Newegg: howl.me/ck3xZAIU0Sk
Our i5-14600K review covers both of these CPUs: • The Last Hope for Inte... (the 13600K won "Best Overall" for 2022)
BEST GAMING CPU 2023
AMD R7 7800X3D CPU on Amazon: geni.us/bah9
AMD R7 7800X3D CPU on Newegg: howl.me/ck3xXl7aWU2
GN R7 7800X3D CPU review & benchmarks: • AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CP...
BEST UPGRADE VALUE CPU 2023
AMD R7 5800X3D on Amazon: geni.us/8V8doYC
AMD R7 5800X3D on Newegg: howl.me/ck3x1gAONQT
GN 5800X3D CPU review: • AMD Hits Hard: Ryzen 7...
MOST EFFICIENT CPU OF 2023
AMD Threadripper 7980X on Amazon: geni.us/6HfTHBO
AMD Threadripper 7980X on Newegg: howl.me/ck3x2utKzDw
GN 7980X review: • Crazy Efficient: AMD T...
Runner-up: AMD 7800X3D
Honorable Mention: 7950X in Eco Mode
BEST BUDGET CPUs OF 2023
This one had several options and two key choices.
AMD R7 5700X on Amazon: geni.us/KP0AB8
Intel i5-12600K on Amazon: geni.us/2gB9h1
AMD R5 7600 on Amazon: geni.us/sNMHx
AMD R5 7600 on Newegg: howl.me/ck3x7KVM3H8
Find the R5 7600 review here: • AMD's New $230 Ryzen 5...
BEST HIGH-END DESKTOP CPU 2023
AMD Threadripper 7970X on Amazon: geni.us/BvmzcC
AMD Threadripper 7970X on Newegg: howl.me/ck3yj6BiZq6
GN 7970X review: • Crazy Efficient: AMD T...
BEST CPU UNDER $100 IN 2023
Intel i3-12100F on Amazon: geni.us/neDFz4
Intel i3-12100F on Newegg: howl.me/ck3x3LuzIie
GN 13100F review contains the most up-to-date comparisons: • Budget CPU Battle Roya...
BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT
Literally the entire Intel 14 series, including the i9-14900K, i7-14700K, and i5-14600K (but at least that one can have a redeeming price sometimes).
If you want one anyway, you can find the i9-14900K on Amazon here: geni.us/Etbz3
Or the 14900K on Newegg: howl.me/ck3x5OBBXCP
GN 14700K review: • Intel is Desperate: i7...
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - The Best CPUs of 2023
01:35 - Setting Content Expectations
02:58 - Best Overall CPU
04:57 - Most Balanced (Price, Gaming, Production)
06:51 - Best CPU for Gaming 2023
10:38 - Best Upgrade Value CPU
13:25 - Most Efficient CPU
15:30 - Best Budget CPUs
17:49 - Best High-End Desktop CPUs
18:59 - Best CPU Under $100
21:46 - Biggest Disappointment
22:58 - Conclusion
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As a person who bought the 7900X3D, i really wish i had seen your review beforehand. Unfortunately I built my dream PC before the 7800X3D came out.
I'm really glad you guys made this video. Specially with the BEST EDITING category and the Best budget/under 100 bucks. I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate that.
Thanks, Steve
I do not regret my 7950x3d purchase a month ago.
AMD just can't stop winning.
4:22would still be interesting to see how 7950X3D compares to the rest.
Calling it, AMD's R7 5800X3D will become AMD's "GTX 1080Ti" as we'll never see that kind of jump in their future CPUs anymore.
Hopefully in the future the 3d-vcache goes below the cores and we get better clocks on the X3D. So there is some room for improvements 😉
@@stennan V-cache below the cores will do nothing, as the issue with it is not the temperature but that it's more voltage sensitive, lower voltage means lower clocks. It's not even over the cores, it's over the existing cache.
@@shepardpolska If so, why are they not maximizing the voltages on cores and keeping it at sane levels on the cache?
100% agreed! AMD's 5800X3D and NVIDIA's 1080 Ti will both be difficult to ever repeat. NVIDIA has clearly moved away from that - we'll see what AMD does.
@@GamersNexus😅
Steve: "At 5000 dollars the threadripper costs more than a gaming PC."
Jensen: "Challenge accepted"
RTX 5090 Ti Super Duper, now with 2 fire starting 12VHPWR power connectors
Alienware: "that's not true Steve we have an R7 5700 RTX 2060 machine with a SATA SSD for 4899!"
@@misterringer*sata HDD
The new rtx themed leather jacket for the low low price of $10000
@@WineLadThis leather jacket is the heaviest leather jacket ever made, it weighs 50 lbs
It blows my mind how AMD went from being nearly dead to almost dominant in every category.
Even if you're an Intel fan, its good to have good competition in the market.
Dr. Lisa Su should be commended. Also held as a great example of what happens when your CEO also knows what the fuck the product is vs just another suit.
And then went dead again 😂
@@DerDrecksack87 ?
Wish they could do the same with their Radeon division...
i upgraded from a 3600 to 5800x3d and gave the 3600 to a friend that replaced their 1700. it was 2 upgrades in 1 purchase. AMD has won some good will with me on how they treated their AM4 socket. Gamers Nexus helped with all this, Thanks Steve!
I've got 3600 as well and I was planning on upgrading to 7800x3d but I changed my mind and I'll buy 5800x3d skip am5 and I'll buy the first CPU on am6
@ What if your current cpu is fine still? Do you just buy no matter then need more based on the "Want"
AMD is killing it with the CPUs last few years. I went from R5 2600 to R7 5700X and the difference is huge.
Similar thing for me when I jumped from the R3 2200G to the R5 5600X3D.
@@MPdude237lucky bastard
I went from a 8350 to a 7600x lol
I went from 3800x to 5800x3d. Massive upgrade without needing to change anything else.
Hell. I'd tried using a 5950x and it was a pain to get running compared to the 5800x3d
8350 to 5900x
And HDD to Gen 3 M.2 SSDs(Adata XPG)
It is like comparing a donkey to a AMG wagon..
Lowkey wishing you guys would do some 'best computer case of 2023' since there's little to none case review per month of this year. I'm not complaining, I just miss the case reviews. Kudos, thanks for the recap 👍
Working on bringing them back!
ATX Case reviews are on hold atm as it is one of the things Steve said they are revamping due to new passthrough GPU Coolers & higher TDP CPU/GPU
@@GamersNexus It would be cool if the new Case Test Platform could include M-ATX too,
as you said in this video for "Under $100" for some "Just spend an extra $40" is not possible when the budget is very tight, so instead of ATX getting an M-ATX Mobo & Case can save quite a few $$ so get you that extra $40 for a R5 5600/i5-12400F instead of an i3-12100F, maybe an SSD GB upgrade too.
@@GamersNexusno case set for this year? Was waiting for that as wanted to swap my build to matx am5 on next gen (but seems that might be infeasible anyway, seems to be so few matx boards now?)
@@GamersNexus When you do I'd love to see a comparison between the Hyte Y60 and the new Y70. As it'd be great to see exactly how much that 18% extra space in the Y70 they added for GPU airflow affects the overall temps. As well as if their claims you can now fit 3 fans down the bottom are accurate.
I love these recaps, and all the work that you and your crew do. Thanks Steve! You've guided my last 2 builds and I've been genuinely happy with their outcomes!
AMD deserves major kudos IMO for keeping the AM4 platform viable!!
idk shit about PC's. where do i even start. help-
AM4 really is the gift that keeps on giving. If the recent leaks are true, AMD is preparing 2 more X3D-CPU's for the platform, the 5500X3D & 5700X3D.
But they make AM5 to make AM4 not to be viable right? Why someone tell that new gen Intel still compatible to the current gen board, did they mean that new gen intel can support both ddr4 and ddr5?
@@heyolorenns Checkout pcpartpicker or pcbuilder, but the TL;DR is if you want a decent gaming setup, go for an "AM5 motherboard" and then get AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D if you have the budget, and maybe either a used NVIDIA 3080, or 3070 Ti, or AMD's 6900 XT, or 6800, or if you have the budget and want a very power-efficient card but for an RTX 3080 performance, go for NVIDIA's 4070 or even better, 4070 Ti.
absolutely
Crazy that I can go from the 3600 to the 5800X3D. The 3600 has been amazing bang for buck thus far and the 5800X3D will give my build another 3-4 years no problem!
That essentially means this platform will be close to lasting me a whole damn decade.
How much did you pay for the 5800x3d and what mobo are you on?
@@dereklang4451He’s still on the 3600
really thinking about dropping a 5800x3d into my sons pc next year. hes running a 3700x currently.
@@dereklang4451 I got mine for 300 bucks
@@l30nid45Not a bad idea if you want almost a 50% performance uplift overall. Also I hope the R5 5500X3D and R7 5700X3D rumors are true.
ECO mode is honestly an underappreciated feature on AMD.
this! running my 7950X in 105W Eco mode. Reaching around 35k to 37k points on Cinebench R23.
hwinfo tells me 130W.. so 10% less points but less than half the electrical power than the 13/14900k.
Sure, I could go to maybe 200W and beat the 40k points a 13/14900k has, but I find the lower temps perfect. Might get a higher lifetime aswell with that...
the reason they didn't do that by default is, because for customers only the raw power matters, so they needed to get ahead of the 13900k, cranking up the power
Yep, but you can get somewhat better results with manual governing of PPT and TDP. Eco mode just has the ease of one-click and be done.
I prefer quiet operation to all out performance so I enabled it right away; I'm grateful for the channels like GN that highlighted it.
Not unique to AMD. You can lower PL1 and maybe also PL2 for a similar effect on Intel.
@@olnnn PL1 and PL2 are power limits, not power states, and setting them is exactly as simple as "tell the CPU how much power it can use." If the user is so helpless that that's any more difficult than on/off, they should stay out of the BIOS options.
Appreciate how much work this took. Would love to see a video like this for GPUs for 2023 as well, thanks 👍
It's pretty cool how you include when you performed the benchmarks in the graphs. I appreciate that level of disclosure. We don't quite get that in all places, and we're often left guessing if, for example, an 13900k benchmark result was from a year ago when being compared to, say, a 14900k result, which obviously was tested more recently. We know driver optimizations, particularly in the case of AMD, have led to performance improvements over time.
Thanks Steve! I waited out for the 7800X3D and couldnt be more happier!
It is excellent.
bought it for 349€ with Avatar Game reward, quite a good Deal
Waited for it as well. So until was it April this year or whenever it come out. Was worth it else I would had gotten a 7700X which almost costed the same. The 7800X3D is the best part of my system. 55 watts in games, never hits more than 70c under a NHD-15. Not going 7800X3D is dumb, litterally waste of money and performance. Energy bill thanks me vs going toaster Intel.
@@lurchioderwatt6234wow, where?
Thanks Derek! Which mainboard you use? Back to you, Derek.
I did my AM4 upgrade before recent pieces that deepened the analysis on be best AM4 upgrade and its such a relief to have Steve and team validate the choice to go 5800x3D
I wish there was a 5950x3D, because I could really use the pruduction performance, but the cache would also improve gameplay.
I've been on a B350 board since Zen 1 in 2017. The 5800X3D may actually see this board through a decade of use. I can't think of any other socket that comes close to AM4 for useful life. Maybe Socket 7 back in the 90's.
I bought the i5-3570K in 2012 and although I am now looking to replace it, it has remained fully capable for just about 12 years now and I'm pretty sure it could keep up for several more. Even if there are a handful of top demanding games it will struggle with and I'm also not doing any video editing or other heavy duty productive work.
what do you cool it with?
I've been using the 5800X3D with the 6750 xt for about 6 months now, it's an amazing build, I will be going to a 6800xt before hopping on AM5, but I cool my 5800X3D with the peerless assassin 120 se, temps are solid all round even in Cyberpunk 2077 in VR@@vasilispapageorgiou777
@@NeroZenith Thank you. Glad to know you can use air cooling with no issues. I just grabbed a 5800x3D tpo replace my 3600 and looking for a descent GPU to replace my 2060. I wanted to stay with air cooling, wihout turning my room into a furnace or sound like an airplane engine is on :)
For sure lad, my current setup is the quietest my pc has ever been, and I don't have the sapphire 6750xt which is known for its cooling I have the Asrock one which is known to be loud, but it never gets loud not even under OC and 100% UT. It's always at a good temp aswell even when seriously pushing its limits, 5800X3D is a beast, enjoy!@@vasilispapageorgiou777
this is an amazing review series - I love the way you guys handle the tech-y details while also making the information clear and helpful, especially given your commitment to real-world average user scenarios
Loving these videos! I cant always upgrade every time something new comes out, so these videos really help to narrow it down. Greatly appreciated!
This is a great help for me. I trust GN because you are thorough and understand what people at all levels of ability.
With AM4 still being viable and AM5 the future, this puts AMD the go to platform for me.
Content on point. Been out of touch for a few years. Great way to catchup
After many years, Intel's management and engineering teams have finally managed to take the coveted "budget CPU" crown. One has to admire their dedication and all they were willing to sacrifice (namely their gaming, workstation and server product lines) to achieve it.
Kek
lel
It makes sense they would aim for that, as they are everywhere in office and other purchasers of prebuilds, like schools
LOL, I wouldn't call intel products priced for budget.
@@UnknownMoses - Er... did you even watch this video? It's the only segment where they actually offer better performance for the price.
Just built a 7800X3D system last weekend, so this feels pretty gratifying to see. Hopefully my first trip with AMD will be a good one
Assuming AMD does with AM5 as they did with AM4. You're going to be amazed about being able upgrade the CPU a few times before having to get a new motherboard 👍
Ordered a Lenovo Legion 7 with 7945XM (16c, 32t and 64mb L3), coupled with a mobile 4090... kinda in the same boat as you
AM5 is only scheduled to last until 2026, so you won't have the same longevity in socket as AM4 had. Honestly, I'm not disappointed with this, as AM5 was too premature needing lowly RAM speed, and over delivering in PCIe gen 5, with storage unreliable due to overheating failure. Also the Z height IHS is an abomination of design. I would have preferred to buy a new cooler adapter or cooler entirely than have a 95 degree boosting chip, using 20w of extra power.
@@DeadSpy2 That'd be nice, though I doubt AM5 will have the same longevity, think AM4 was a one off thing now that they've got quite a bit of market share back lol, I believe we've only got Zen 5 confirmed for it, which makes sense with the expectation of support through 2025.
But yea, as long as it's stable and well performing, I'm happy. It's served me quite well in the short 3 days I've been running it, and I haven't experienced issues like long boot times that early AM5 adopters reported. Looking forward to trying more demanding games on it
Which GPU did you use? Thinking about building a PC with a 7800 x3d and rx 7800xt.
I got the 7700x on a discount here. It'd be nice to have the option to upgrade to something like an 8800X3D or 9800X3D in the future.
Same here! I got it right at the time it launched for my new gaming rig. It's been phenomenal.
I went for a good x670e and paired it with the 7500f, got one for 150 bucks and will upgrade later with the best x3D in 2025.
Same here 7700x / FE4080….has awesome…dropping in a 8000 series end of 24
also got a 7700x + 2nd hand 6800 xt for 390 $ and mind you i bought all this 5 months ago
@@USAF-AMMO-461X0 the 9000 you mean ? I can already told you that Zen 4 desktop will be the Ryzen 9000 but be prepare they will be more hot than Zen 4 (due to more dense node from tsmc).
The Ryzen 8000 will be the mobile/apu ones however.
Follow this steps:
Ryzen 1000: zen (2017)
Ryzen 2000: zen+ (refresh i 2018)
Ryzen 3000: Zen 2 (2019
Ryzen 5000: Zen 3 (2020)
Ryzen 7000: Zen "4" (2022)
Ryzen 9000: Zen 5 (2024 or for the x3d maybe 2025 early ones it will depend on the capacity amd wil have with tsmc to release them BEFORE Arrowlake).
Awesome work as usual guys! Love your stuff on the CZcams as well as your "new" website. Your integrity is second to none! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your crew!
what timing. I was just looking for a new build and this helps out immensely!
I'm glad to see the 12100F as the sub-$100 winner since I just built myself a budget gaming PC with that exact CPU less than two months ago. I paired it with the RX 7600, and I'm getting great performance at 1080p.
bro people living in the past you used 1080p over 10 years ago .. its 4K now
@@andreasnilsson1797 🤡
@@andreasnilsson1797you are naïve or something.
No 60 series GPU is able to work well at 4K and struggle at 1440p...
@@andreasnilsson1797damn dude, you cant be serious.
@@andreasnilsson1797i still use 1080p 240hz and all is good broda. Have a 4k 60hz at work and don't see the need of having one expensive for gaming at home.
Took advantage of exactly what you mentioned with the 7600X for a kinda mid range AM5 build. Black friday sales here in Australian put it under the 7600 rrp and even with the 7600 on sale, the big discount on the 7600X means there's barely anything in price between the two atm
Really liking these "recap" videos doing a fresh build at the moment so super helpful!
What did you go with?
Thx for the video, i recently got 7800x3d with b650 aorus pro, very happy.
Can't wait for best cases of 2023.
Thx for your videos!
I got a fairly good idea for a video, during black Friday prebuilts always go on sale for huge price cuts to the point it's often cheaper than building them. Perhaps do a video on these prebuilts to see which companies are cutting costs for black Friday and in which way.
Great to know! I'm putting together a somewhat budget rig, and man, comparing AMD and Intel continues to be an inordinately difficult task.
That's a good problem, though -- it's not as easy as it used to be to compare them, which means a lot more options. It's just weird that so many are technically 'last gen' while being so good!
I've never used AMD in my entire life, but I think, at least now, AMD is mauling Intel on these categories. And I'm all for that .
go with Intel, there's a big difference don't trust this benchmarks they're testing AMD with the max supported and stable speed ddr5 ram and Intel with their almost minimum ddr5 ram speed, all Intel can make a easy 7200 32cl ddr5 xmp and way more oc and Intel CPUs can be oc that only is a HUGE difference on benchmarks. Steve knows that I don't know what happened to him he used to do real test back in the days
@@TecoProductions Do you work for UserBenchmark?
@@TecoProductions the fact that Intel cpus use a mega fuck ton of power and you need a good z790 board. no matter what you say at 350€ the 7800x3d is insanely better than the i5 14600k. an overclocked i9 with 8200mhz ram could even have 20 more fps but at what cost? 300€ more for the cpu, 200-300€ more for a motherboard and 30-40€ extra for a good ram kit that can handle 8200mhz, also let's not forget how the 7800x3d is literally plug and play on a b650 mobo with 6000mhz cl30 ram. Intel is good but they need to reduce power usage a lot and do something similar to amd's "v cache cpus" E cores+loads of cache will be insane on intel
Thanks for that, it is exactly what i needed 2:26 all those smalls details and caviats market situation can be showed in videos like that
This, and the accompanying GPU-vid, will be my reference to people who ask what to look for in a pc part.
Thanks GN :)
Now, let's just hope not a lot of retailers are watching gamers nexus videos and the price of most of these CPUs won't go up magically overnight 😅
5800X3D prices never came down 😆
intel microcenter bundles have dropped $50 this week, some of them at least
@@ffwast it was 299$ before on may
Grabbed a 7800X3D system recently, for purely gaming use. Love to see that it was a great choice!
I mean it was the only Correct choice. So good job.
I built a pc about 2 months ago & use the 7800x3D, it’s the best gaming cpu I’ve ever used, it’s not even close, anyone who’s wondering if it’s worth the price, 100% buy it, you WILL NOT regret it.
My question is can I use it for graphic design (including some 3D) and video editing too. I'm trying to pick a CPU that covers both bases but I find myself going around in circles.
My 7800x3d is on the way, with a new MB and RAM and I got my 7900xt earlier this year. I'm fucking set man
@@The_Diginaut-unoptimized title proceds to launch and you have to play at 1080p upscaled xddd
Steve, I just wanted to say thank you for doing your homework on all of this information, it is very helpful and much appreciated.
I love seeing my 5800X3D placing so high on so many gaming charts. ❤ Best value purchase that I made in 2021.
Same..
5800x3d Release Date: Apr 20th, 2022
@@tsvetanbliznakov7694 LOL Yep. I saved my money from 2021 instead of buying anything. It was supposed to be a tech joke.
@@TheZoenGaming I saved my money from 2021 and 2022 and I bought it in 2023 when it was 335EU , so I get what u mean yeah :D
I have a 5800X3D paired with 6700XT and I absolutely love that chip. The fact that all I needed to do was drop the chip into my existing motherboard for such a nice uplift was tremondous value for money. Best chip I've had for a good while.
Edit-Now have a Sapphire Nitro+ 7800 XT paired with the chip
Your motherboard?
@@AloneVal MSI MEG B550 UNIFY
@@deathb1ossom thanks
Love my 5800X3D - at first it didn't make sense coming from a 5800x , but the gains in Tarkov have been amazing, all whilst using about 65w under load.
Nice. Just made the same upgrade. It's sitting here beside me. Still have to install it.
I thought the same thing, at first, what with the clock speed being slightly slower. But the 3d-vcache upgrade really is worthwile.
Also, very affordable and probably the best last upgrade for the legendary AM4.
Tarkov ? 💀 That game will kill you, trust me 😂
X3D CPU’s are ALL a full generation uplift from their normal variants it always makes sense to buy them. 7700X to 7800X3D is like going from Zen 3 to Zen 4. No one argue please I own both, got the 7700X as a placeholder. Some games show a massive difference.
@@JoeL-xk6bo "always makes sense" "Some games" listen, i really like my 5800x3d, but people should be thinking about what exactly they're using it for. if someone actually only wants to play a game where the cache is irrelevant, they should get the cheaper part
Great job Steve and GN crew. Always very informative and in depth.
Thank you so much for making videos like this and working really hard with you team to come up with New's and updates. With out you there would be more people building less PC's and knowing wtf is going on. I only watch Gamer Nexus and Jat2cents videos. The only 2 youtubers that I watch for PC tech. Keep up the good work and don't stop on what you do.
Great Video!
One question though:
The power efficiency charts are missing the 7950X3D.
Why? I’m curious how that chip performs efficiency wise.
Likewise, though not tested to the teeth, the 7950x3d was always high ranked, often even higher then 7800x3d (especially workloads), gaming it's usually second or third highest (just behind other x3d).
I'm very happy with the gaming performance of my little 5700x. it does a great job, runs cool, and was pretty affordable at around 220-250$ CAD for Black Friday :) good upgrade from a 3600 without having to go full on and spend several hundred jumping to AM5.
Thanks dude! Great video, easy to understand, and politely explained.
Nice video, as in the lighting and the overall positive vibe : ) I didn't need any encouragement in getting the 7800x3d on its first discount here since release, especially since DDR5 prices are (still) pretty decent (and Asrock recently released a relatively moderately priced B650i board, the "Lightning"), as its qualities have been known (partially thanks to you), but cheers nevertheless for a pretty complete guide. My NR200 and L12s and case fans will transfer. Looking forward to the build.
Microcenter had the 7800X3D on sale for $299 just a couple weeks ago. Absolute steal at that price.
Apparently that was a pricing error on their end. It was an unbelievable deal!
Holy shit
I picked one up with an ASROCK x670e Steel Legend. It's been absolutely amazing. Friend picked up the same combo. We couldn't be happier
Almost criminal. Anyone that has access to a Microcenter and was in the market for a Cpu, had only one Correct choice.
Lisa Su: Yo Intel? Our boy Microcenter wants to try kicking you in the gonads too!
Intel: ....yes Mistress Su.... I'll be right there...
AMD's strategy of making desktop chips out of "rejected" CCDs that aren't good enough for Epyc and Threadripper means AMD can't just stop making desktop chips. They will always be a side product of Epyc production. Which means AMD will simply flush the price out the toilet if they have to, as they're making severely big bucks in the datacenter, and have no desire to just throw the "rejects" away. So they will be sold at whatever price they can get for them. Intel can stop production of desktop chips if the market is saturated. AMD can't.
Wonderful to see the amazing content continue coming out from you guys! I've been watching for years now, and having just built my first SFF PC, your Dan A4-H20 review and 7800x3D review were invaluable in helping me decide my configuration. Happy holidays to you all, and I hope GN has a wonderful end of the year!
Thank you so much! Glad to have helped and enjoy your build!
Can you do a review like this; But for Audio Recording, Editing for DAW and VST and etc. thank you liked the video and subbed
Thank you. Even trying to keep up, it's difficult to keep it all straight. Even just within one brand it's difficult to keep the part number concepts straight as they sound similar.
I’m glad I checked this out. I’m gonna go check out some reviews for the 5800x3d. That seems like the best option for me at the moment.
If you're already on AM4 and you're mainly or only using it for gaming, then yes, it's a blast of an upgrade. The 5800X3D is on average as fast as the 7700X which already is no slouch. But a decent AM5 board already costs half of what a 5800X3D costs, so there will be more left in the penny jar for a GPU upgrade down the road.
5800x3d was the best drop I've done for quite a while
back then swapping a Duron 950 for an Athlon XP 2700+ on my K7S5A felt similar
thx AMD
That's a much bigger upgrade. You're more than doubling your clock rate with a higher-IPC chip.
@@TrueThanny yes, but upgrading back in the day always had substantial performance improvements
today this is a bit different, looking at you 14900k 😂
Man, k7s5a is a throwback and a half! I remember that name, it was one that had dual memory type slots right?
@@TrueThanny Its like going from 4,4ghz to 12,4ghz as a drop in
Thank you for awesome summary. Will you also do a piece on the best motherboards for various purposes or RAM? I'm in the process of choosing parts for my new 7800x3d gaming platform and I honestly don't know what mobo / ram to choose.
Awesome video, just in time for black friday deals.
Should I buy now, or wait for boxing day? Which has bigger sales? Im curious.
Thanks for mentioning that on the lower end how big a part budget constraints play, I am gonna be upgrading from a r5 3500 to a r7 5700 but not the 5800x3d as it is out of my budget completely :(
I got a 5700G because it was notably cheaper, I know it has less performance but it's close enough that I couldn't justify the extra $50 at the time. Also, it ended up letting me hold off on buying an overpriced gpu.
Any 5000 series CPU is till an absolutely capable gaming chip. The 5700 has the grunt you'll need for a good long time.
I had to upgrade my whole system this year. Never again did i choose a cpu so quickly and easily. 7800x3D all the way! great video guys!
Excellent content by GN. I'm not in the market right now (using R7-5800X). But if I was, this would be my go-to video. Now I have to see if HUB has anything comparable to this. Just because it's fun to see what's new with the two best channels in this space.
This video was perfect for me. Amazing work!
I've been running an i5 13600kf since shortly after it released and it is as you said, a very well rounded CPU. I use it primarily for gaming and it pushes a 3080 FTW3 without breaking a sweat. Very happy with it.
Starting a new build next month thinking about the i7 13007k but looking at that i5 aswell not sure which to get
if you have productivity work to add into the mix, go i7, if your focus is purely gaming, go i5, it can handle any top end modern GPU, I paired my i5-13600k w/a RTX4080, and it runs amazingly, hope that helps :)
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Me too, recently upgraded to 13600k. It is well balanced with my 3080 ftw3 whether in my games or productivity stuffs.
@@MaDGriZz78 both are great options. I went for the i5 so I could shift a little more of my budget to the GPU and I'm very glad I did. I use my system predominantly for gaming though.
@@istudyokonsepto it really is an excellent combo. One of the better setups I've experienced and I've worked on a few. What board are you using?
I've been undecided, had a Newegg 7800x3d, MB, Memory combo in my cart for a few days to update my i9-9900k rig. Just hit the button, thanks for the video and that last nudge !
Unless you have a specific use case for a 13th or 14th gen Intel then AMD 7800X3D is the best logical choice for gaming. Smash that buy button! :)
The 9900k was Intel's last truly amazing CPU. For me it was up between that and the Ryzen 2700X, but between being "a habitual AMD customer" and needing strong software compilation performance (my Phenom II X6 1100T was a work horse for that!) I went with the 2700X which was a godsend choice as I ended upgrading to the 5950X.... But then the aunty looking little brainiac known as Dr Su rocked the world with the 5800X3D and my jaw dropped along with everyone else's. I've become accustomed to just sacrificing a bit of gaming performance for getting the best work-horse performance I can, but the 5950X was already king of the hill, so I hoped desperately for a 5950X3D.... And that's how AMD "hooked me" into upgrading a lot sooner than I normally would. The 7950X3D was just too bloody tempting and I caved :P
Really helpful! I built my last gaming system in 2013 and just ordered my new parts last night. Feeling really good about my own research aligning with your results re: RYZEN 7 7800X3D.
Now all we need are some monitor reviews that describe the very many levels of brands, quality categories, models in those categories, inputs and number of them, screen tech and those with built in power supplies vs power adapters.
went from 5700x to 7800x3d, couldn't be happier about the performance
Always love waking up to a new GamersNexus video
Nice video, well done, thanks for sharing it :)
What I like about changing push pull on those fans is that you can swap one and run them face to face. I have heard this will produce a more undisturbed airflow. I always wanted to test this.
Purchased 7800X3D 3 days ago and you dropped this now. Well luckily it was a good choice haha. But currently pairing it with my old 2060 cus my budget drained with Am5 upgrade.
I upgraded from an AMD 2600 to 7800X3D and I love this thing, paired with 32 gigs of fast ram, it kicks ass for my needs. Strongly recommend it as an upgrade.
Can you tell me what graphic card use nad PSU for build?
With the stage set, I'm looking forward towards the next Disappointment Build!
I love these videos at the end of the year. They are like a recap of how hardware market end technology is.
Good to know I didn't mess-up too-much on my build. I went with the Ryzen 5 5500 with an A520, 4-RAM slot mobo instead of the i3- 12100F for a turbo-budget editing rig. The goal was to be able to spend more on RAM down the line than I spent on the CPU. I get a bit of brush-lag in CSP and the occasional hiccup in Blender, but the point you made that "just another 40 dollars" was not an option is much-appreciated. I got *exactly* as much as I needed from my new rig and I'm pretty proud of my decision-making for once.
Great video, would you consider doing a few awards for laptop CPUs? Maybe even split into intergrated cpus / non intergrated cpus separately?
With AMD allegedly focusing on laptops and possibly intergrated graphics next year this area should be getting a lot more interesting IMO
You could include an award for intergrated desktop CPUs too?
I think they'd need more staff at this point. They are already sacrificing case reviews for more gameplay tests.
Gamers Nexus doesn't really do laptop content. Jarrod's Tech and Hardware Unboxed have some.
Incredible video. Incredible journalism. Congrats, guys!!
It’s amazing how in sync you are with HUB sometimes haha
I pulled the trigger on a 7800x3d when I got a £50 reduction.
I am now looking for a deal on a b650 with a SPDIF output and Low Latency 5200 to 6000 RAM.
Amazing that SPDIF is not on many many motherboards nowadays.
Makes finding a deal hard because the deals are on the already cheap motherboards without SPDIF.
Can you please explain what an SPIDIF output is?I believe it's audio related but what exactly does it do
@@hyperfang27 I have an external DAC that takes the digital audio away from the computer, then changes it into analogue away from the computer, so I get very clear sound as there is no interference from the Motherboard.
The connector I use it the SPDIF out.
Im more on an optical spdif guy myself but understand the pain. Though if you really, really care about audio consider a soundcard or some type of external solution.
Love to see the budget and under $100 categories.
Come black Friday, you will have a couple more options. Almost certainly, the best choice will then become one of the sale items.
Nice of you to put this video out just before black friday/cyber monday happens since there's probably quite a few people trying to build systems for Christmas etc.
useful video fellas cheers got myself a new 7600
As someone who always goes for the "mid-range/balanced" build but also does productivity/gaming, I'm super happy to see the 13600K win the balanced category. It means I chose correctly.
It is also great from a temps / power perspective if you have to stick with Intel for whatever reason - more efficient than the 13700 and above!
Same, except with a "F" after the "K."
Yeah I got me a 13600kf coming also
@@SakuraWulf yea I have a KF as well.
You didn’t because you spent $300 on an i5 cpu.
You described me word for word, havnt bought any PC parts outside of extra storage in a long time and im looking to get back into it. This channel is easily the best imo for making imformed purchase decisions.
Great video have not built since building my AMD 5 3600. Thanks!
I went from a 9600k to R7 7800x3d and it as been a very worthwhile upgrade. Not a fanboy of either. I like both intel & amd but the price to performance I got for the 7800x3d was too good to pass on (used for gaming only).
Nah, the R7 5800X3D is better. ;)
only if you already have an AM4 motherboard. If you're building an entire new system the cost difference isn't really that big@@ramonandrajo6348
AMD is really killing it in the CPU game. It has been great seeing the increased arms race for CPUs and it was a really hard choice when I did my upgrade earlier this year. Went 13700k personally as Autodesk Revit seem to favor Intel right now. If my job wasn't Revit based however I imagine I would be sitting here with a 7900x.
Having owned a 1600x, 1800x, 3600 and 5800X3D, I have to say that I think AM4 will go down as one of the best sockets in PC history. The lifespan, support and generational improvements have been insane
Thank you for this video. I am exactly the intended audience as I am about to build a new system after using my last one for about 4 years. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Owner of a 5800X3D and a 3080ti here, so, budget isn't the biggest concern for me. I have the highest possible admiration for GN's advocacy for hobbyists with lower-end budgets. The "just another $40" point is really well made, and reminds me of how things were for me like 10 years ago. Bravo!
Is it good for video editing aswell I'm lost on what I want now lol
I find it humerous that people have been saying AM4 is EOL for well over year, but it hasn't disappeared like they anticipated.
if your buying a new system it is, RAM price can only go up, in fact i seen better deals on DDR5, yes i agree the AM4 platform had better board options for all people where AM5 is copy and paste no matter who you go to, but that been said i am very happy on AM5.
To be fair, AMD themselves said it'd go EOL! But then they kept shipping chips. Looks like we might be getting the 5700X3D too.
@@GamersNexus The rumored 5500X3D would be interesting for a system I want to upgrade. It is now running a R3 3100. We will see.
@@blackIce504 Absolutely not. For people who buy a complete machine every 5-6 years and don't upgrade anything in the interim, AM4 is still a strong contender in the value segment. People who just want "good enough" CPU performance, while transferring as much budget as possible towards the GPU, AM4 is a solid option. You can get a decent board, 32GB of RAM, a 5800X3D, 2TB storage, PSU and a 7800XT for $1200. Do the same on AM5 and you'll have to step that GPU down a tier or cough up another $100-ish.
with ram prices going up, storage prices going up for SATA, as NVME gets cheaper yeah I went with AM5 for those reasons and i upgrade on similar cycles.
Thus if your doing a full system its better to go to a platform that's going to be around and have upgrade paths open and that has cheap parts.
Ram requirements change fast it was only a few years ago people could get away with 16gb now its very hard to manage. "i normally use 32 to 64gb on my workstations" but yeah when i first jumped on the AM5 platform a cost saving was just getting a basic sticks of ram to get me through and it was hell going back to 16gb its tough to manage on 32gb.
Also have you factored in the power requirements of newer platform as well?
Productivity / power efficiency.....
Allot of people are guilty of not taking this into account.
But if ignored that when i was buying 3 screens and went with a cheaper monitor that used more power the savings i got by going a more expensive monitor paid for it self in less than a year, it all adds up.
I use the same strategy deploying servers as well.
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@GamersNexus Would you consider doing a round-up of motherboards? I know it's a tall ask as there are so many combinations of features etc. But even harder for the consumer to navigate and evaluate... so many do it by price tier only?
It's funny watching all this. I have always bought AMD for decades because of it's bang for the buck CPUs, but AMD has always been the underdog, and seeing them top performing in pretty much all specs and Intel has the mid preforming CPUs is very surreal and heartwarming at the same time.
I wanted to ask if have to go for R5 7600 vs R5 5600 which one should I go for. Price is not my concern.
Had my 7800X3D for a couple of months now. It really is a great CPU.
Nah, the R7 5800X3D is better. ;)
You can keep holding on to it for a while. Lets see what does the 9800X3D does.
Love your content and your integrity, these are the reasons I watch and have no problem recommending your channel. You also have a good head of hair, for us over 65 we sometimes wonder if its not getting thicker if that's even possible. Thanks again.
Thank you for the video! Great watch ❤
I am amazed at what amd has done in 5 years. They were nearly bankrupt when ryzen came out. Now they top most of these categories.
I hope the 7800X3D will be the new 5800X3D for this generation of chips. I agree, Intel's 14th gen uses too much power and also under performs against 5800X3D in some games!
Seems like it so far. I also hope there will be a good boost from Ryzen 7800x3d to the Ryzen 8800x3d, like there was from Ryzen 1000 series to Ryzen 2000 series. 😉
As long as you don't look at the power meter when the AMD system at idle lol. Ryzen 7000s are known for drawing high power for not doing anything at all
It is and it isn't. What made the 5800X3D such an absurd beast is that AMD's I/O Die was capping out at 3733MHz with tinkering, and 3600MHz for all-the-time-every-time XMP, so the effect of V-Cache was really great. The 7800X3D is still decently faster than the 7700X, but because the 7700X isn't nearly as limited by 6000MHz as the 5800X was by 3600MHz the gain isn't nearly as absurdly mind-blowing.
I think the last AM5 X3D is going to be "the next 5800X3D", as that's when DDR5 is about maxed out and the cache starts doing the heavy lifting. And since that will also be the last upgrade option for AM5 I think AMD will likewise keep it in production for a long time.
@@yungfisherman4 It's mostly fixed now. I came from a 5950X to a 7950X3D on a three monitor setup, and the wattmeter says the new system is drawing 27W more at idle. Considering my monitors draw 35W each at my preferred brightness, and that I went from a 6700XT to a 7900XTX, and I went from 1x NVMe to 2xRAID0 along with going from 32GB 3600CL16 to 64GB 6000CL30, that seems entirely reasonable to me. It's about a 15% increase in total system idle power for a system that has a whole lot more "stuff" in it.
@@andersjjensenany advice for a new build, do you think it's worth going for AM5 and the 7800x3d vs AM4 with 5800x3D? I was looking at going for the Rx 7800 xt with the am5 build
I got the 7800x3d a couple of months back, it's insane. I even tweaked it, even more power efficient (can't pull more than 80 watts) and faster (+10 percent in cinebench).
Also it's bottlenecked hard by the 6800 xt in games :D
Beast of a cpu.
Loving keeping the Upgrade category, I'd be cool with even more niche categories! Maybe best APU with best performance and graphics efficiency?
And like you guys, I'm happy they might be foraying into keeping and stretching out the capacity of older architectures. The truth is, a lot of us just can't afford to keep up the rat race and totally do a new machine every two years. Its a whole different mindset when you're looking at keeping a PC for 5 years. Before I got this "new" one in 2020s, my last one ended up being my machine for about a decade.
Great categories. I hope this helps everyone who watches this before deciding to spend their money on CUP/Platform upgrades.
AM5 Non-X should be in your charts if not winning a couple awards. For efficiency, the 7900 does more than a 5950X, the former king, but it uses 25% less power. For budget, you can use the included wraith prism instead of spending another $30-100. Surprised to not see it mentioned or at least present in the charts for comparison. Not as much of a "gaming" cpu as the x3d chips, but much better value if you plan on doing any actual work. Plan on doing the drop-in upgrade in a few years to whatever Ryzen 8k or 9k has to offer. No-brainer CPU of the year in my opinion, all the benefit of AM5 without the ridiculous TDP / heat.
I'm a video editor and graphic designer but I also want to play on my PC. So it will be for working and playing. Should I chosse 7 7800x3d OR 9 7950x3d?
for your specific case, unless the price difference breaks the deal for you, the 7950x3d should be a no-brainer.
If you look at it's performance in the "production" category, the 7950x3d wins hands down vs the 7800x3d.
The 7800x3d has half the performance of the 7950x3d on a lot of benchmarks for that category, which includes Blender, Cinebench (Cinema4d's benchmarking tool), Adobe Premiere, etc.
Also, just for note, it's up there with the i9 for production taks, and in some cases even beats it, with the added benefit that AM5 will stick around for a few years still.
@@user-qn1np9gu5q thank you so much. The price won't be a deal breaker unless I save money for a better GPU. I'm thinking of chossing Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070. Do you think it's a good choice for 7950x3d? I would be able to add 200$ to a better GPU if I choose the 7800x3d
AMD "made" me upgrade from my 5950X to a 7950X3D because they never made a 5950X3D. I'm a software developer so I can basically pin any number of cores to the ceiling. The 7950X3D is brutal in core-heavy work and it games like a dream. It keeps my 7900XTX crucified at 1440p in everything but old-school shooters that already get +1000FPS.
So if you have the dole the 7950X3D delivers. It's $600 on newegg right now, and I can attest that you can keep it cool and quiet with a standard $35 dual tower cooler like the Peerless Assassin (I have a Noctua from my old AM4 build, but according to GN they perform the same).
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Would love to see your Threadripper build video!
I just got a thermaltake pre-built with a 5800x3d on it on black Friday. Im pretty happy this video mentioned this cpu as the best upgrade. That validates my decision, which was pretty difficult to make.
You guys continue to consistently provide high value content in fun and informative way. I’m truly impressed with how well thought out and logical the information is laid out. Thank you for being a such a great resource for all things PC.