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  • čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
  • Why is everyone talking about bottlenecking again?? With so many high end parts you would think bottlenecking is dead… but that’s NOT true!
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Komentáře • 965

  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus Před měsícem +611

    Hey Phil and Nick - these skits are an awesome representation of the pipeline. I've never thought of how you could relate the work back to people in this way. Feels like it captures the pipeline and is very easy to understand. Great job!

    • @rogermartin4104
      @rogermartin4104 Před měsícem +3

      That graphics card looks HUGE in this video... good examples. I struggle to properly explain bottle necks to people all the time. Technical words are hard.

    • @urmask7264
      @urmask7264 Před měsícem +2

      Phil and Nick are increasing the bandwidth for video releases. LOL.

    • @kasper_429
      @kasper_429 Před měsícem +4

      A wild Steve appeared! Lol.

    • @TwinShards
      @TwinShards Před měsícem

      Yep i really loved the skit ❤ :D

    • @francoisleveille409
      @francoisleveille409 Před měsícem +3

      I thought computers would help reduce the amount of paper we use. Apparently we use more than one hundred sheets every second in all gaming computers of the world!! Gosh!

  • @munchkinmatt1670
    @munchkinmatt1670 Před měsícem +1048

    🤣I need more skits of Phil and Nick acting out PC processes.

    • @petert3355
      @petert3355 Před měsícem +43

      Yeah, the dirty look GPU Nick gave CPU Phil really cracked me up.....

    • @Nishnigtoo
      @Nishnigtoo Před měsícem +2

      Agreed.

    • @TuuTer
      @TuuTer Před měsícem +11

      I laughed way too hard at this. Comedy gold 😂

    • @davidgreen6490
      @davidgreen6490 Před měsícem +11

      The one where his glasses went crooked was hilarious!!

    • @gasracing4000
      @gasracing4000 Před měsícem +3

      I saw the performance counter in the cpu bottle neck demo... 😂

  • @captainslow_037
    @captainslow_037 Před měsícem +524

    honestly the best representation of a bottleneck

    • @Gidoni000
      @Gidoni000 Před měsícem +1

      100%

    • @conm9891
      @conm9891 Před měsícem +5

      Honestly this is already covered...even by these guys. Idk anyone talking about bottlenecks except these guys...TWICE!!

    • @captainslow_037
      @captainslow_037 Před měsícem

      @@conm9891 new games are less optimized leading to thoughts of maybe my parts of bottlenecked

    • @nowandrew4442
      @nowandrew4442 Před měsícem

      Still entirely wrong. A bottleneck is not simply the slowest part of a system - **every** system has (N-1) bottlenecks, always, if that is the defintion.
      A bottleneck is when the .e.g GPU *chokes* and runs _more slowly_ than it would if the slow component wasn't as mismatched. Not just can't do as much work. But chokes and loses *relative* performance compared to a different setting/match-up.
      It comes from the fact that a wine bottle, when you pour it out "fast", glugs and makes the total flow **_less_** that by using a shallower angle (where air can get in, and thus no glugging).

    • @FirestormX9
      @FirestormX9 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@nowandrew4442 entirely depends on which wine are we talking about.

  • @rogerbowen5753
    @rogerbowen5753 Před měsícem +315

    Jay: "Ok, who's been using all my origami paper!?"

    • @msullami2909
      @msullami2909 Před měsícem +24

      Jayyyyy can we have folding
      Noooo we have folding at home

    • @noahzinc
      @noahzinc Před měsícem

      “Ran out of origami paper because your employees used it all for a skit? Can’t fix that with iFixit. Just kidding; yes you can!”

    • @Nareimooncatt
      @Nareimooncatt Před měsícem

      ​@@msullami2909yes, but it's that folding at home origami, or Folding@Home medical research?

    • @vodormesz4344
      @vodormesz4344 Před 20 dny

      Oh nooo how he gonna fold ships without it!!!

  • @OhHaiJosh
    @OhHaiJosh Před měsícem +146

    Loved that visual representation, the crooked glasses was a funny touch😅

  • @GodsValorable
    @GodsValorable Před měsícem +74

    The only problem with Phil in front of the camera, is you don't get any of his explosive wise cracks from behind that camera that get me laughing. Keep up the good work Phil.

    • @LupusYonderboy
      @LupusYonderboy Před měsícem +4

      He should do both at the same time. We have the technology!

  • @captainslow_037
    @captainslow_037 Před měsícem +182

    phil jumpscare lmao

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 Před měsícem +11

    3:25 The mock illustration is *PERFECT*
    Its not only comedy gold but its also really accurate and simple to understand, you need to make more in this style!

  • @zach99999
    @zach99999 Před měsícem +71

    Loved this, very well explained and I loved your guys' acting of the cpu and gpu. It was funny but also a good representation

  • @ultragtman1563
    @ultragtman1563 Před měsícem +58

    I would like to discuss how games nowadays bottleneck your components when they are terribly optimized. When you see that your i7 at 10% and your gpu is at 40% makes me wanna cry man

    • @xrafter
      @xrafter Před měsícem +5

      Maybe they are optimized for power saving instead of performance. Or maybe Windows is limiting the power usage when extra power is not needed. They are many possibilities other than the game. Like engine limitations, developers limited your hardware to protect it from unwanted bugs that appear at high framerate like gta 5. Although I think framerate oriented games are getting old but I don't know anything about the game dev industry if that was actually the case.

    • @ultragtman1563
      @ultragtman1563 Před měsícem

      @@xrafter Oh you are really hitting my interests friend. Its funny how that works for developers. Fixed framerates in games are tied to so many things. Just like gta v back then on the PC port if you hit any framerate above 30 fps the barrier arms for Solomon richards won't move up they stay stuck until you limit your fps to 30. They fixed this bug which occurred again in the Xbox series x upgrade the barrier arms were still stuck and wouln't move until you used the Fidelity graphcis mode. It's so funny there are so many subliminal messages that game performance is limited by engine capabilities. I play red dead 2 and gta iv still and religious cap my framerate. The thing is i love capping my frames to 30 if you do it right with vsync or triple buffer or even the riva tuner frame limiter man does the games look amazing. And sure i have bought into cinematic frame rate bc good motion blur and playing open world games at 4k native 30 is still so great. Just my opinion i use my pc as an ultra performance console. if some games that need to be pushed over 120 ill do it I have a 120hz oled and its great but i do appreciate my open world cinematic graphic optimization that I do

    • @GoombatzGaming
      @GoombatzGaming Před měsícem +19

      Looking at you capcom 👀 cough.... dogma 2....... cough....... 👀

    • @icanseeall-inthisreality
      @icanseeall-inthisreality Před měsícem

      that's a bit of a blanket statement, but I hope it doesn't come true with more games in the future.

    • @chinesepopsongs00
      @chinesepopsongs00 Před měsícem +2

      Hey those are games that are written to run on a single core. Those run as well on a overclocked i3 as on a 14900kf.

  • @Demarcius
    @Demarcius Před měsícem +1

    Damn, that card is huge! It's like half the size of Phil's arm!
    Bottlenecking will never be dead. People are always pushing the hardware to the limit, and that limit will be on either end.

  • @mennser
    @mennser Před měsícem +3

    Nick and Phil ROFLMAO!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Right on!

  • @rohansawhney8203
    @rohansawhney8203 Před měsícem +27

    Well done Phil and team!! This is a really great intro-level explanation for what bottlenecking is and WHY it happens!!! Really well done guys!

  • @Ghrifter
    @Ghrifter Před měsícem +7

    Phil and Nick reminds me the really old fun video series : "hi! I'm a MAC", "hi! I'm a PC"
    I loved it, it was crystal clear and funny.

  • @rickmiller4202
    @rickmiller4202 Před měsícem +13

    Great job by Nick, and Phil stepping in.

  • @Damascus_Zeramas
    @Damascus_Zeramas Před měsícem +5

    Love how phil explained the topic. Now i need one to explain frametimes and how to mitigate micro stutters (at least minimize em).

  • @blackjack6259
    @blackjack6259 Před měsícem +5

    Great job Phil! Simple and easy to understand. Also loved the outtakes.

  • @floydwegienka6582
    @floydwegienka6582 Před měsícem +5

    FANTASTIC!!! Nick looked so natural.

  • @mtr2day
    @mtr2day Před měsícem +2

    Great job explaining bottlenecking. Always like seeing Phil and Nick host videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @Illindi
    @Illindi Před měsícem +2

    Techbros Phil&Nick explaining it calmly and clearly. Please make more good ones.
    Loved the blooper reel :)

  • @Mike817
    @Mike817 Před měsícem +3

    Great video, guys. The Phil/Nick skits were awesome - definitely need [lots] more of those. I think this was also Phil's best video yet as principal host. Really well done.

  • @Auto-Tech-Matt
    @Auto-Tech-Matt Před měsícem +6

    to many people worry about bottle necks and percentages. like my friend who was getting 200 plus frames in warzone but had a 15% bottleneck. i told him to not worry and just play the game

    • @wpdlatm5576
      @wpdlatm5576 Před měsícem +1

      What does 15% bottleneck even mean..? (please don’t tell me you’re referring to bottleneck calculator)

    • @mr_confuse
      @mr_confuse Před měsícem

      ​@@wpdlatm5576what even is a bottleneck calculator?

  • @bront_catherder
    @bront_catherder Před měsícem +1

    Love this. Much more nuanced than some of these bottleneck tools would have you believe, and it's great to acknowledge how to handle a bottle neck as much as how different games and scenarios have different bottleneck points.

  • @fruzeniusgames
    @fruzeniusgames Před měsícem +1

    Loved it guys, great explanations and good physical examples. Super easy way to understand this. Also BRING BACK BLOOPERS they're always amazing

  • @davillain9974
    @davillain9974 Před měsícem +9

    This is the kind of explanation showing how and what Bottlenecking is. Thank you Phil and Nick for making this happen and a special thanks to Jay for letting the team take point here.

  • @drgapinski
    @drgapinski Před měsícem +10

    All I've learned is that I better not get the Phil Series CPUs or GPUs because they cause bottlenecking.

  • @chrischapman962
    @chrischapman962 Před měsícem +1

    Best video yet Phil!! Great job. Loved the paper example to demonstrate the bottle neck

  • @mattfox8531
    @mattfox8531 Před měsícem +2

    This was really really well explained.
    I knew and understand bottlenecks, but this also just out it in a way that just makes sense.
    Good job guys!

  • @Brisleep1
    @Brisleep1 Před měsícem +3

    Excellent visual examples!

  • @emmanuelrodriguez1043
    @emmanuelrodriguez1043 Před měsícem +5

    Just WOWWW! Great way to explain “Bottleneck” 🍾🦒

  • @mwurman
    @mwurman Před měsícem +1

    Phil! Love to see you doing a video...always awesome and you explained this process well...I was always wondering how this all worked!

  • @Midcon77
    @Midcon77 Před měsícem +1

    Great video! I thought I had a handle on bottlenecking but this really clarified a few things for me and gave me some ideas on how to tweak my setup. Thank you! Phil and Nick - great job! I hope you guys continue to do more hosting even when Jay's back to 100%!

  • @DiscoMan
    @DiscoMan Před měsícem +3

    this is a great video thank you phil & nick

  • @LegendslayX
    @LegendslayX Před měsícem +89

    People are talking about CPU bottlenecking right now because of all of the Dragon Dogma 2 issues making it almost unplayable for so many people.

    • @GForceIntel
      @GForceIntel Před měsícem +56

      That's not bottlenecking, just terrible optimization.

    • @TotallyCreativeNameBtw
      @TotallyCreativeNameBtw Před měsícem +13

      ​@@GForceIntelyeah, making the cpu work a ton, thereby bottlenecking the gpu

    • @scottydc
      @scottydc Před měsícem +12

      @@TotallyCreativeNameBtwthats not what bottlenecking actually is though, dude. its an outlier and shouldnt be considered since its just a shitty optimization job.

    • @elu9780
      @elu9780 Před měsícem +32

      @@GForceIntel it can be both. Terrible optimization resulting in CPU bottlenecking.

    • @kevinerbs2778
      @kevinerbs2778 Před měsícem +2

      @@GForceIntel terrible coding.

  • @OccipitalVision
    @OccipitalVision Před měsícem

    I've learned a good bit from this channel and a couple others, but due to the age of the channels I dont always do a deep dive for this kind of info. Thank you for the explanation as it did help me understand more of what to look for if/when I do my first solo build.

  • @zenwolfe
    @zenwolfe Před měsícem

    thank you for the help phil!

  • @XenonX278
    @XenonX278 Před měsícem +44

    I got jumpscared when I saw Phil instead of Jay lmao

    • @vCLAYMOREv
      @vCLAYMOREv Před měsícem +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yeah me too

    • @yurikadzz
      @yurikadzz Před měsícem +1

      Theyre a cool team

    • @FirestormX9
      @FirestormX9 Před měsícem

      ​@@michaelscarportman of culture

  • @jesses1589
    @jesses1589 Před měsícem +7

    Dang, video is out 1 minute in and someone already beat me to the sponsor block edit.😆

  • @RPGTKingpin
    @RPGTKingpin Před měsícem +1

    Awesome work Phil and Nick. Phil's explanation of bottlenecking was very clear and approachable and helped me grasp the concept a lot better than I did before. One thing I will recommend for future vids: eyecontact with the camera. You have the knowledge. Show us the confidence you have in that knowledge. It helps keep the audience engaged and keeps us feeling like you're giving *us* advice, rather than the guys filming you for us.

  • @brettkoski
    @brettkoski Před měsícem

    Brilliant. Excellent chemistry with this entire team. Thanks for such a fun and informative video guys!

  • @lazarostheodorou9183
    @lazarostheodorou9183 Před měsícem +7

    03:35 The look of Nick (GPU) waiting... 🤣

  • @Ashandaeri3
    @Ashandaeri3 Před měsícem

    Love this. Good job guys.

  • @earthtaurus5515
    @earthtaurus5515 Před měsícem

    Bookmarked for future reference so I can just link this video instead of trying to explain what a bottleneck is to the not so techie folks among my friends and family members. Awesome job Phil and Nick, the skits had me cracking up as well.

  • @tdragongaming7997
    @tdragongaming7997 Před měsícem

    well done. simple to understand. appreciate it guys

  • @hdwill
    @hdwill Před měsícem

    Amazing! Good job Phil!

  • @articchar-lf
    @articchar-lf Před měsícem

    Well done guys!

  • @activesloth5355
    @activesloth5355 Před měsícem

    This channel is always pure gold. Love seeing Phil and Nick explaining things in simple terms

  • @RustyEcks
    @RustyEcks Před měsícem

    Great video Phil! Loving it!

  • @AlphaSnowLion
    @AlphaSnowLion Před měsícem

    I really this format with Phil, more calm and collective than we typically see him. Really cool! More of this type of content is welcome

  • @arithex
    @arithex Před měsícem

    You guys are awesome .. MORE please!

  • @peaceyoman123
    @peaceyoman123 Před měsícem

    great demonstration for basics and getting started. perfect for basic understanding and comprehension. awesome work guys!

  • @JRDawihammer
    @JRDawihammer Před měsícem

    Finally it’s “Phil in Time!” Great job Phil!

  • @vdd1001
    @vdd1001 Před měsícem

    That visual representation was perfect

  • @bradydavidow4470
    @bradydavidow4470 Před měsícem

    Yall did great!

  • @waterzappy6996
    @waterzappy6996 Před měsícem

    Great video guys awesome job Phil and Nick! love seeing you guys on camera!

  • @baltazargomez4061
    @baltazargomez4061 Před měsícem

    Hey guys gotta say...BEAUTIFUL explanation. You both got great teaching skills. Keep it up!

  • @b.j.fletcher1975
    @b.j.fletcher1975 Před měsícem

    Great explanation and video! its good to see more of Phil and Nick.

  • @gregoryagniel1642
    @gregoryagniel1642 Před měsícem +1

    Awesome video, hope to see more of these relatively short but very effective explanations. helps a lot when you are new to the field.

  • @todddembsky8321
    @todddembsky8321 Před měsícem

    Phil -- great presentation!!
    Excellent content and clear delivery.

  • @mitchell609
    @mitchell609 Před měsícem

    This was great to watch, love the content! Can’t wait to see more of Phil and Nick, and more of these skits.

  • @danieledwards2149
    @danieledwards2149 Před měsícem

    The skits were great! Definitely made it easier to understand

  • @Jaw0lf
    @Jaw0lf Před měsícem

    Loved your explanation, well done and a great topic to explain!

  • @BubbaTrashCan
    @BubbaTrashCan Před měsícem

    Phil and Nic this is a very good video. Easy to understand, informative and very funny.

  • @Dingo89
    @Dingo89 Před měsícem

    Guys this is a fantastic video! Phil - This is the best hosting you've done! Can see you're starting to get much more comfortable in front of the camera :). Nick - The faces you pull and your acting prowess is amazing and always brings a smile to the video. Top video! Great info, and the moment of Nick and Phil acting out bottlenecking is fantastic (and explains it well). Keep it up!

  • @nh8616
    @nh8616 Před měsícem

    I always approximatively knew what was the bottlenecking but with this video it's crystal clear. Thanks :)

  • @TheOlaf78
    @TheOlaf78 Před měsícem

    Phill doing a good job! love you guys!!!

  • @Game_Rebel
    @Game_Rebel Před měsícem

    excellent job with this. love having a resource I can point people to who are less familiar with the nitty-gritty tech details.

  • @Kittykisszpdx
    @Kittykisszpdx Před měsícem

    Explained very well. Thanks, Guys!

  • @Ph3oNiX2105_ZA
    @Ph3oNiX2105_ZA Před měsícem

    ABSOLUTELY loved the skits 🤣🤣 Keep up the good work guys

  • @veryshort24
    @veryshort24 Před měsícem

    Great stuff Phil and Nick !

  • @KaozIcy
    @KaozIcy Před měsícem

    A good and simple to understand video about a phrase that gets thrown around a lot! It'd be cool to get a followup that goes into how to determine a bottleneck and what to do if you find one.

  • @Kingswtech
    @Kingswtech Před měsícem

    I love this content because it’s so much information in just a little bit being said 💪🏾

  • @ThePCgamewalkthoughs
    @ThePCgamewalkthoughs Před měsícem

    Thank you for the video Phil!

  • @Jaylou88
    @Jaylou88 Před měsícem

    I’d kind of understood what a bottleneck was but just needed someone to act it out to solidify my understanding. Thank you for finally putting my mind at ease 😂

  • @davidjenkins4199
    @davidjenkins4199 Před měsícem

    Good job guys.

  • @rbdesignsnh
    @rbdesignsnh Před měsícem

    this was an awesome 101 on bottlenecking. i loved it!

  • @Nareimooncatt
    @Nareimooncatt Před měsícem

    Great work, and the bloopers at the end were just the thermal paste on the IHS (icing on the cake).

  • @_AtramentousOne_
    @_AtramentousOne_ Před měsícem

    Jay, if you ever see this, I just wanted to say that you did a great job with your crew. If you had any hesitations with Phil and Nic, they should be quelled. I have always been half understanding and half confused about PROPER bottlenecking, and this video cleared a lot up for me! The way Phil is concise and makes sure to also illustrate for us visual learners as well, beautiful! Great job, you guys! Been a fan and watcher for a good while now and with confidence I can say that your channel is in good hands. Take all the time you need, Jay, we'll be here! Take care!

  • @travis_lang91
    @travis_lang91 Před měsícem

    Love this break down! makes it so easy to understand now!

  • @tonifasth
    @tonifasth Před měsícem

    This was brilliant, especially with the scetches! Keep up the good work! ❤

  • @szuche7226
    @szuche7226 Před měsícem

    So helpful thank you for the information much love

  • @chadgrieser8021
    @chadgrieser8021 Před měsícem

    Great visual representation of bottlenecking.... it quickly and easily explains whats happening

  • @happalula
    @happalula Před měsícem

    first moment the video started i thought "holy freaking moley - that GPU gotta be at least 50cm long, where did they get a monster that gigantic" until i noticed its not Jay, its our precious Phil!
    your visualization was awesome, a joy to watch and easy to understand!

  • @mikew3515
    @mikew3515 Před měsícem

    Excellent video guys.
    The skits were the best representation of bottlenecking😂.
    🍺

  • @TungstenMiller
    @TungstenMiller Před měsícem

    I'm loving the visual on the bottleneck! Great job, guys.

  • @kenhoughton9519
    @kenhoughton9519 Před měsícem

    Very good description of the bottle-necking problems. Very well put together. Quo dos😄 Phil!

  • @mjpowda9418
    @mjpowda9418 Před měsícem

    Lol. Nick and Phil bringing the skits and comedy. Love it!

  • @Gogibear
    @Gogibear Před měsícem

    Good video guys. Phil’s laugh is just too funny.

  • @xufreee
    @xufreee Před měsícem

    Thank you.

  • @cleaveuntome42
    @cleaveuntome42 Před měsícem

    I actually needed this last night! Thank you!

  • @shreddherring
    @shreddherring Před měsícem

    Very well explained, and entertaining, yet easy to grasp demonstration. Well played, Sir!

  • @SubOxyde
    @SubOxyde Před měsícem

    Such an awesome representation of this concept, and I am dying hearing Phil's laugh at the end 😂

  • @GotdayumGaming
    @GotdayumGaming Před měsícem

    I absolutely love this video. Its simplifies the explanation of bottlenecking and it also has a demonstration that's as simple as the explanation....PLUS THAT SHYT IS SUPER FUNNY acting out the CPU and GPU.!!!! Dope vid!

  • @carlosmcc604
    @carlosmcc604 Před měsícem

    Great vid guys!

  • @axonometri
    @axonometri Před měsícem

    Great video guys! Keep these coming

  • @TioAe
    @TioAe Před měsícem +1

    AMAZING video guys!!
    Informative, straight to the point, fun and very entertaining!
    Now the engineers can finally understand what they have been working on xD

  • @lucapistellato3498
    @lucapistellato3498 Před měsícem

    I think it's worth mentioning that bottlenecking is always going to be present in each system, but is't necessarely a bad thing in itself, it depends on where it is. Also, as a general roule, if you're aiming for a better gaming experience, it's better to have the gpu at 100% and the CPU waiting, because of all the random background tasks that the processor has to handle that would otherwise cause an fps dip.
    With that said, this was an awesome video and I would love to see more from you two ❤

  • @oblivioustouch9012
    @oblivioustouch9012 Před měsícem

    Best video explaining bottlenecks I’ve ever seen.

  • @Hjorth87
    @Hjorth87 Před měsícem

    As a strategy game player I saw a very good example recently where my gpu was only at 60 % load in Victoria 3.
    I could get all the pretty landscape I wanted but it took some time for the cpu to calculate all the price fluctuations on steel in a global market

  • @ximmons
    @ximmons Před měsícem +1

    Thanks for Philling us in.