Very Affordable router lift I used for 8 months, China Tools 36
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2022
- In-Depth reviews of woodworking products from China.
In this episode: A very Affordable router lift from WNEW!
If you want to see a ranking among all the products, I tested over the last three years, visit my site: hookedonwood.online/China-Too...
Here you can also find my shop improvement series with free plans!
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Here are all the direct links to the products in this video.
Reviewed products:
Wnew router lift!
www.banggood.com/custlink/3G3...
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Prices on Banggood include VAT, but above 150 euros, there will be some import duties for Europe!. I do not know how this is in other countries.
Spiral router bit long
www.banggood.com/custlink/vDK...
Spiral router bit long compression
www.banggood.com/custlink/DvK...
Big spiral bit 12,7mm
www.banggood.com/custlink/vv3...
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My Personal Banggood favorites all time!
1. Hongdui Edge Trimmer
www.banggood.com/custlink/GGK...
2. Doweling Jig / Multi-row puncher
www.banggood.com/custlink/KDv...
3. Kerfmaker
www.banggood.com/custlink/vDD...
4. Drill guide cabinet jig
www.banggood.com/custlink/KDD...
5. T-ruler
www.banggood.com/custlink/3GG...
6. Precision square
www.banggood.com/custlink/DKv...
7. Miter square
www.banggood.com/custlink/GmG...
8. Miter square brass
www.banggood.com/custlink/vmG...
9. Height gauge
www.banggood.com/custlink/KGG...
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The material used for my workbench and this platform is Black MDF:
Black MDF, something similar to Valchromat. I get it from here: (Netherlands)
www.af.nl/voorraad/plaat/mdf-...
Black MDF.
Here is a list of viewers' suggestions where you can buy Black MDF or Valchromat or Forescolor.
USA
www.plywoodcompany.com/MainSi...
trinityinnovations.net
packardforestproducts.com
plywoodcompany.com
UK
www.idsurfaces.co.uk/decorati...
www.atlantictimber.co.uk/valc...
Germany
www.hornbach.de/shop/MDF-Plat...
Belgie
www.houtshop.be/nl/plaatmater...
Australia
timberwood.com.au/
NSW Australia, Laminex has the black MFD
A few products from this review were sent to me by Banggood for testing.
This does not mean that I do get all my products. I also review a lot of products I bought myself.
I started these reviews because, from my experience, not every tool from China was worth buying. So I wanted to do in-depth reviews to show you which products you should consider and which products you better leave alone. The fact that Banggood sent me products occasionally does not change the way I do my reviews. I still give in-depth reviews and give you my honest opinion!
On this, you can count on!
I have a good experience with Banggood.com, and they have a lot of woodworking tools nicely organized on their site.
My name is Dennis, and I am from Hooked on Wood.
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Products I use in my workshop.
Table saw with dust system:
Harvey HW110GL Europe edition with sliding table
Harvey / Axminster trade S-12 overhead blade guard
Dust extraction: HBM 200
Oneida Super dust deputy 6.”
Workbench:
Incra master-R-router lift
AEG 1400w router
Incra 25" SL positioner with Wonder Fence
Drill press: Jet JDP 15B
Miter saw: Festool Kapex 60
Push blocks
Micro Jig Gripper
Incra Push block
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Best regards,
Dennis - Jak na to + styl
Great review, thank you. I have been looking at this router lift but was concerned about the lack of a locking feature so very happy you addressed that in detail.
Great video. I never used a router lift but now I am going to buy. Your review really helps.
I really enjoy you reviews. You are a true professional.
As usual Denis a very detailed review. Thank you
Thanks for another informative video Denis .
I actually considered the Wnew lift when I was looking. I have their miter gauge and box joint set and have been very happy with it. I went with the Jessem in the end.
Thanks as always for the great information Dennis.
I have the biggest Makita router with a plate from Sautershop. Works pretty well. The lift mechanism is a M5 screw provided with the router. It's not perfect, but it works. You simply adjust it with a screwdriver.
Thank you as always,
Hi Dennis. Great informative video as always. Really love your videos!!! This looks like a really nice Router Lift. Would love to get one but unfortunately is does not ship to South Africa. Have bought many items from Banggood on your recommendation. This is the first time I have come across an item that does not ship to my country. Just thought you should know. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks and brilliant as always denis I’ve been waiting on this review since you first introduced it so long ago and you’ve not let us down.
Thanks for the review, Denis. I took a chance and purchased the New 4 months ago and am delighted with it. I have a Makita 220v trim router fitted with the 107 adapter. The only thing I can add is that I have seen the height change and noticed that with heavy vibration the height adjusting nut can move with the vibration. I sometimes leave the adjustment wrench in to stop movement. I hadn't realised until your review that I can tighten this up. The only flaw is the instruction manual is entirely in Chinese there was no English version. I need to go to CZcams for installation instructions or use Google translate app to read the chines instruction.
Thanks for your comments
I made my own really easily with 6, 16mm linear rods and 12 bearings, and I love it. It's cost me $48 total, and it's a lot sturdier than my previous ($300) router lift. And it's easier to remove/install motor, and change bits. I just took a few ideas from other lifts, and put them onto 1 lift with the best ideas of others.
I'd love to see it
Same, show us the way
Yeah, come on, show us how to make one.
Pictures...or it never happened
Great reviews. But one more thing you could have checked on the router lift is if the axis of the router is truly square to the table top. A small deviation is irrelevant for most operations, but if one is cutting 45 degree bevels on two boards for a miter joint, then axis must be exactly square to the table top. I have learned, the hard way, not to assume the router is perfectly aligned. It can be checked by putting a steel 1/2" rod, perhaps 300mm long in the collet, and checking with an accurate square.
I bought this one a few months ago and love it! When working a lot with mdf types of wood I found the threats were clogging quite fast (as you mentioned). To prevent that from happening I hot glued a thin piece of hard plastic on the routerside as kind of "splash guard". This pretty much solves that problem.
Great tip! I am going to look for that
What router did you use? Please
I use the makita rt0702c
Fantastic review, Dennis! Thanks a lot! 😃
I'm going to need something like that soon!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I don't comment much (I know it helps you, but I'm lazy ha ha ha).
You make excellent videos! I really think you do a great job of testing, unlike some who just run a couple pieces or cuts and then call it good or bad. Your delivery of your results and feelings is superb as well. You actually come off as "caring" about what we hear and absorb.
Thank you for your time and effort!!
Thanks Dennis, I'm looking to make my first router table now, and this looks excellent
Hi thank you for a very good video. I see you use quite large router bits.. what router are you using that manage these big bits and that fits into the lift ?
Hi Dennis, very nice an detailed review, thank you.
Is the small straight edge you use at 5:56 also available through BG?
What a great alternative to more costly router lifts. Thank you for sharing this with us today, Stay safe and healthy from Henrico County Virginia
Nice review Dennis as usual, but you sold me on the Triton Router and Incra Plate with Clean Sweep Rings some time ago and I love the setup, in my "Ultimate Workbench".
In fact, just today I scratched the gold coloured anodising on my Incra plate by accident and was fuming 🤬🤬 for a good 30mins 😁 then I slapped my face and told myself "It's a Workbench, get over it" 🤣🤣.
In the end, it is a workbench 😀😀, you are right, but the first always hurts
Hi Dennis, have you had any kind of information about the ENJOYWOOD GD7 PRO router lift?
Congratulations for your channel, from Brazil.
Hi Dennis, another informative ans entertaining video. I am a hobiest/part time woodworker and your China series hasproven a great way for me to get better tools at an affordable cost. I look forward to each relaese
Hi Dennis. Thanks for all the reviews. I have bought several products from banggood that I am happy with. Do you know of a router you could recommend for this lift? I am finding it difficult to find a 107 mm router motor with 8mm and 12mm collets that will run with European 220V.
Thanks Dennis, was literally looking at a router lift and your review has helped massively. 🙏🏼🙌. On another note, you previously talked about doing a video on how you set up the dust collection system. I know you have done a recent video on dust collection, but I was wondering if you had filmed the actual implementation of the system. I have a Camvac also and love the sound box you have made for it . 👍.
Good morning Dennis, excellent review as usual - thank you. I too bought this lift late last year, and have found it to be truly exceptional, I have also not experienced any movement in the setting despite not having a locking mechanism, and I think it is built to a tremendously high standard - certainly for the price. With the bullet proof 3.25HP motor that they also do it makes a very powerful router table set up, it is one of the best buys I have made, so good in fact I bought a second unit for an additional table!
Keep up the excellent series, your workshop makes me somewhat envious!!
Where did you buy the motor? I can't find it on banggood......
@@Humzack87 also interested to know this
Me too interested
Would like to know the motor as well
Thanks Dennis, as always great information and review
Very nice review - thank you. I see this lift under the Zahyox brand here in the states (on Amazon). The one I’m looking at is $323. I too have concerns over the lack of adjustment lock.
I am looking at this lift and the Kreg PRS500. They are actually about the same price (Kreg would be $315 after 10% discount offered and Zayhox is $323).
I’d like your thoughts on the Kreg - is there movement using the locking mechanism? I like the fact that the Zahyox has almost 4” of lift capacity vs 3” for everyone else. I also like that the leveling screws are too mounted and it comes with the corner pieces. That’s big for DIY tables like mine.
There are two concerns - the lack of a locking mechanism which is substituted by a color tightening screw as you showed. Could you use the screw as a locking feature? Keep it loose while adjusting height then tighten to use? Then loosen again? It’s accessible from the front I think - pretty easily?
Second - the snap in rings over time.
At these prices, should I opt for the Kreg? Is 3” travel enough?
As always..."our" Dennis comes through again. Thank you kind Sir. Love it!
As I start planning a new workshop (after losing my old shop and all my equipment) I'm glad I found your channel. I will be building a router table and I like this lift. I can't find the instructions online so I don't know what table thicknesses it supports. I would like to start the build before the lift arrives.
Best is to keep it under 20mm. I use 2 x 18mm which I prefer for stability in general, but It asks some extra work. In this video I show you how I placed it in my workbench! czcams.com/video/CXXyA8QlOuM/video.html
@@HookedonWood thank you
After watching your other r lift reviews, I think the most cost effective solution is still the triton setup , the clean sweep inserts seem too good to miss and if they work in the triton plate that's what I'd go for
Hi Kevin, Yes, the Triton is a nice solution. Especially because the air outlets of the router are at the sides instead of on the top. When you mount it in a table, and you have suction under the table, there always will come some dust in the router itself.
That said, This router lift slide better, it is more consistent and runs very smooth. So, when you do more work with a router, in the end, I would prefer a router lift.
@@HookedonWood it looks good dennis, but id like the option to use the clean sweep, dust collection is important in my small workshop,cant use one outside as i dont want to annoy neighbours! just shows that different woodworkers have different needs in their own situation. id love a bigger workshop, maybe someday..ive just ordered a camvac after seeing your review, hope to have it hooked up soon. cheers.
I love the cleansweep too. They also effectively. Triton is a perfect alternative. I worked with for two years and I enjoyed it very much
I have the Incra Master Lift II and I am very happy with it! I will say I bought mine for $269.00 USD a few years ago.
Along with the clean Sweep system, I have not experienced the router shift with the locking mechanism.😁🛫
In Europe the INCRA will be around 450 a 500 euro.
Ouch! 😫🛫
@@HookedonWood Its the same price in the U.S. No clue where he got it for $269.
Today it is about £120 here in the UK, so quite affordable I would say.
Is there any router lift (other than festool $$$ table) for festool OF2200 You would recommend?? Oh and great work by the way!! I mean all of it!!
Router table, router lift, router - price for all those is probably close to one reedy shaper frem Grizzly with router bit spindle (Grizzly G1035 - 1-1/2 HP Shaper or Grizzly G1026 - 3 HP Shaper).
Hi Dennis, what kind of router you have for that router lift? I what to build something like you have but I'm not finding routers for that. Can you help me with that, please! Thank you Dennis and please continue your great work on your channel. Raul
Hello Denis.
thanks for your videos.
I am going to buy a router with a 12mm collet and I would like to know if it is possible to combine the AEG MF1400KE milling machine with the Vnew brand elevator system that you show in episode 36 of China tools.
Great video, do you know if this lift fits kreg router table?
LOVE your videos! Esp the ones about the dust extractor system. But this one confuses me... when I click on the link you provide, takes me banggood page where this router lift is $470 CAD. Considering the well established (and canadian made!) Jessem lift is $300 CAD, that seems insane. What gives?
You may find that the combination of the 'Incra Rounter Fence" and the "Jessem Router table hold downs (stock guides)" can cause problems. As you push the wood through the router table bit, if the wood is not completely flat along its side (or the router bit causes the wood to lift or bounce), even though the Jessem hold downs will attempt to keep the wood flat to the table - the Incra fence can lift up!!! Try lifting the incra fence in the middle by hand - it does lift up, especially if you are using the incra wonder fence. Although, there are workarounds to this problem.....
You may be right because I indeed used the stock guides. I understand what you say and also agree. Will keep it in mind. How do you work around it?
Work arounds can include crude methods - e.g., clamp a piece of wood (on top of the fence) - one clamp on each side of the fence - pressing it down to the router table (like a caul). Perhaps a more elegant solution maybe using t-tracks - clamp the router fence down using its own t-track (at the back of the fence) and 2 t-tracks routed into the table top. It surprised me when I noticed how much the fence can lift or bounce (at times) - especial when using the jessem hold downs. Regards Peter - love your work.
thank you. I am still old school but I would like to move into the 21 century. Are you aware of a lift that will accomadate the makita or hitachi 3hp routers?
Great video have been looking for a routers lift but some of the prices are over the top for hobby woodworker but this one looks promising thank for the review have a great holiday
Thank you for your job!
Great video sir, will consider when I will build my router table
great video... greetings from Pakistan.
Hallo Dennis, weer een mooie review, zat ik inderdaad al lang op te wachten. Ik heb een beetje moete om een 3 HP router te vinden met een cylindrisch motorhuis wat hierin zou passen, tenminste, onder de 300.00 heb jij een suggestie?
Great review Dennis! I would not hesitate to buy this if it fit my AEG motor. So I have to choose between getting the MasterR lift that fits my current router, or the Banggood one plus a motor that fits! (And supports 12mm bits, so no Makita palm router). What would Dennis do? :)
It does not fit your AEG🙁. I told in the video I had a hard time choosing between this and Master R. I really am. But I think I would end up with the INCRA and this 3.25 hp router.
Apologies for going off topic. Do you or your viewers know of a router bit or shaper cutter that cuts profiles that create an intimate fit of the supposedly mating surfaces?
Thanks for a comprehensive and very useful video, Dennis! (Comment is coming in a bit late, as I thought I had posted already but then saw it was not there when I came to look for a response.) How many stars do you give this router lift? (I did not see it listed yet on your ratings page.) Also, could you tell us to what router lifts this one would be comparable? or at least what sort of price point? As others have pointed out, it is not hard to find a lift at the $230 price point that this is at, but I don't know if it is comparable in quality to a $300 or $400 or even $500 lift. Thanks!
I do own also the master R lift from Jessem/incra which sells for around 500 euro’s. In therms of smoothnesses of lifting, to be able to adjust it in 100 of a mm steps it is on par with the Jessem. In terms of build quality it is not. This one is nicely build but the materials used are not like the Jessem or other more expensive lifts I know. So there is where you have to look for the price difference. The entry level is good enough do. At least in my view.
Dennis, hoe groot is de opening tbv de frees? Ik heb een freesset voor keukendeuren van CMT en de frees voor het binnenpaneel is best wel breed
What type of router did you use? I’m having trouble finding a 3 hp+ router for this purpose.
What is the digital height gauge you are using? And where to get it ?
no mention of the size of router motor the lift will handle ? How did you adjust the router to align the router with the lift? Thanks, Dennis.
The lift is made for a 107mm router, smaller works with adapters, On the Banggood site are the different adapters shown.
Adjusting the router is just turning it a bit and try again. You would think nothing can go wrong, but with my first try it was not perfect. It was just a try and error attempt
Is this compatible with kreg precision router table top?
Hallo Dennis, klein vraagje; welke freesmoter heb je in de lift gemonteerd. Of heb je tips welke moter te installeren. Alvast bedankt voor je reactie. Groet Gérard
Hi dennis, what is the radius of the router lift?
Even at the reduced price of 240€ (when I was looking at it last time is was 349€, down from the "official" 400€ price tag) it seems a bit pricey. For the regular reduced price you can get a Sauter OFL (made in Germany no less), even after the price hike a few months ago without discount. The annoying part about Banggood nowadays is that pretty much everything is always "on sale", even if there's just a single cent off the "regular" price making "points" and coupons inapplicable which are rotting away and expiring in my account.
For the price of this lift and a very basic router motor you can buy a Triton router AND a router base plate for almost the same router table experience but in addition you get the handheld router you will need in adddition to actually integrate your router lift (in case one doesn't have one or more handheld routers already).
And if the Sauter one ever goes wrong, they will look after you. These banggood brands won’t even look after you if your original delivery doesn’t arrive
I agree about the wildly fluctuating prices of Banggood. Also, many tools ‘normal’ price has doubled in the last year or two, making them less attractive than a European brand, as both of you pointed out.
I agree with you on the price. I do not think it is a modern way of price politics. But It is something "Chinese" I guess.
I agree also with you on the triton and base plate solution. That is the entree level solution. But If you choose a lift, it will always cost you a lot more and you will need another router also for handheld work. So, that will never be the cheapest solution. I think a lift solution gives something back in return, but you will pay a premium price for it. How much I liked the triton and base plate solution, it will not run as smooth as a lift combo.
What I liked about this lift is that it is affordable, but is a smooth as the more expansive alternatives. But like I said in the video, it is an entree level lift solution, but still beter then a triton/base plate solution.
@@HookedonWood Just a minor linguistic quibble. "Entree" is the main course of a meal, or the right to enter or join a particular sphere or group.
You mean "entry".
👍
Beste , wat ik niet goe versta , moet men hier nog een freesmachine in plaatsen ?
Thanks for your usual high standard review. I'm looking to create a router insert into my workbench but the cost of most lifts is prohibitive to a hobbyist like myself. I'm reassured that the Banggood lift is the way to go.
At least it will cost less, but a Lift option is still a more expansive solution. Nowadays more and more routers come with a possibility to work in a table. That will be the entree level into the router table. I worked with a Triton and INCRA plate solution and was pretty happy with it as well. I also have a video about a comparison at my channel an still think the conclusions stand.
Hi Dennis! Great video as usual!
Was wondering when you will release video how to make T-ruler holder?
Dit not shot that on video, sorry
Could you post some pictures of it on your website or maybe show it in one of next videos as you did with your pockethole jigg holder (which I made immediately and is beautiful!)
Dennis, of the corner squares you tested, would you recommend the drillpro version or the veiko version?
I believe they are both the same. I would get the most affordable one.
Hi Dennis, Do you think this is a better set up to your original Triton and Incra set up?
I liked the Triton INCRA setup, A lift will always be a little bit smoother. My INCRA left with AEG router was a upgrade. But as with upgrades, it will not mean the former situation is nor workable. You will just improve it by small steps. As soon as you choose for a lift option, you will pay a lot more. The advantage of this Lift is, that it is a entree level lift, price wise. But it performs in his main function pretty good. And also will be an upgrade over a Triton / INCRA solution. But it will always be more expansive than a router base setup.
It's now $349.00 USD. A 30% increase over a year ago. It's now priced more in line with domestically available lifts.
Just wait, it will go down with the next sales event!
Excellent.
Any chance of you reviewing the ENJOYWOOD GD7 PRO Router Lift for 65mm/69mm Wood Routers in the future? =P
I'm curious about it, but I'm not sure if a trim router will have enough power for all routing operations. That said, I mostly do round over, chamfers, and the occasional housing groove/dado... so maybe it would be enough for me?
Yes, Will do them probably in June. Have got it already and my first impression is that it is a very (But smaller) impressive router lift. I have to test it though, but the build quality is far better than I expected.
@@HookedonWood Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Great review. Very professional filmwork and audio. My problem with Bangood is shipping time. Just looked at this lift and they estimate delivery September 20th....2 months. I know I live in Alaska but that is way too much time.
Agree, I knew, the stock was limited So, I advised them to manage expectations about delivery time. So, I am glad they did. Better not to choose because it will take too long, then buying it, and endless wait for the product to arrive.
So, a shame it take so long, glad they are open about it. I see progress :-)
But I can understand your feeling.
Love you big man.
Hoi ik ben echt een heeeeeele grote fan ik hoop je een keer in het echt te zien hè wacht is ik herken dat schuurtje
Beste, kan men hier alle soorten frezen in plaatsen , al vast bedankt
Dennis, great review of a very competent router lift, nicely done. 🙂
Have you tested the incra lift to see if it moves if you don't lock the height adjustment?
Incra not, to be honest. But with my Triton you needed to clamp it. But with a lot of work a bit deviation is no problem at all. That said. It should be fixed
Looking at the price of most spindles, 2400w router motors would make this lift at £235 plus taxes well over £400. The Rutlands r15 bundle of lift amd motorfor £399 sometimes on special offer for £329 seems a bette deal and is at least from a euro dealer.
If you are in the UK this is perhaps an option, but for Europe, the the prices on Rutlands is without VAT and import duties, the Pound - Euro rate is not realistic so, you have to pay a lot more then you will think at first sight.
So, this same lift on Rutlands will cost you abobr 400 euro as Europe customer. That is not an entry level price anymore.
But still, it is a nice lift and I think you should buy it, where is the most interesting for you, price wise and service wise.
Thanks for the tip on the Rutlands lift bundle! (I'm in the UK.)
@@cooperised The Rutland lift is a re-badged WNew at the end of the day, but the Rutland motor is not that good.
@@nigelwagstaff7196 What would you suggest instead for similar money?
Hey Dennis! Excellent review as always. Could you please share, which router you use in the lift. The bangood site only says "works with our 3 1/4 hp router" but no reference and the only ones I could find on the web were Porter-Cable from the U.S. that have the wrong voltage for Europe.
Thanks in advance!
Andreas
Dennis, I have the Woodpecker lift and am quite happy with it. This lift you have shown is a nice one, indeed. Thank you for another excellent video. How is the new shop coming along?
Hi David, It is a nice lift, but I think the woodpeckers should be, and will be more advanced.
The workshop is in progress. I am on 60% now, but this is already very nice, so the trigger to finish it as soon as possible is a bit lower. But I will start at a new router table soon, and after the summer I will make my definite main workbench! Then some small upgrades for my drill press and miter station and I am pretty much done! But I hope I wil find something else to improve by then!
I use a car scissor jack under my router which is easy to adjust and cost me £5 on a car-boot
Also a good solution, a lift is never about the most affordable solution. I think you will get something in return, but it is never the most economic solution, I think the best alternative is a router with a base you can adjust from above table. Most of the models do have this option nowadays.
Hello. Love your channel and watched just about all your videos.
Inspired by your black MDF/HDF work bench I decided to do the same and changed my workbench top to black HDF. I have one question though. What do you use the finish the table top? Or do you just leave it as is without any type of finish?
Hi, I would advice to finish it with oil. This makes removing the glue better. I use Rubio because you only have to add on layer, although I prefer two on my workbench.
On small objects like my drill press platform I use Danish oil. This takes 4-6 layers, but the sides will be very nice and It will look really nice. But Danish oil you have to wait 12 hours before different layers so it is too much work.
@@HookedonWood Thanks for the reply. I will try Osmo which should be similar as Rubio s not available where I live
Welke freesmotor gebruik je in deze lift?
Ik heb de lift vandaag besteld maar het is onduidelijk of er verloopringen bij worden geleverd.
Ik heb een AUKTools frees. Die is wel erg cool vooral in de uitvoering dat je de snelheid van buitenaf kan afstellen. Oo mijn site hookedonwood.online vind je banners die naar de site gaan. Met code “hooked” krijg je 5% korting
Hi Dennis, Why do you use Festool tools instead of much cheaper Chinesium tools?
Because I like Festool.
And I like your accent. It’s even better than that of Mark Rutte…😜
Delivery in 2 to 3 months (for Europe) vs 1 month for the USA! That's not fair ;-)
Another great video! Thank you so much. Do you ever sell the unwanted tools? You seem to have two router lifts now.......
I will sell this with my workbench
For less money, just buy a Bosch router base. It has a built-in depth adjuster which can be set from the underside when mounted to a router plate.
That's what I use for my router table - cheaper and just as precise. I upgraded to a Bosch router just for that adjuster feature, which made my work a lot easier.
Hi Bob, A lot of routers in Europe do have this option. I even had it before.
My opinion about that is, that it is an entree level solution. Not a bad one btw, and I enjoyed working with my Triton with INCRA plate.
But in My experience it works not as smooth as a lift solution. So, as soon as you choose for a lift solution, you know it will cost more then a router base. But you will get something back in return.
I have bosch router with fixed base as router lift under bosch router table. It’s not better than homemade options. The table top is not flat, the plate is not flat, the inserts are not tall enough and not adjustable.
The fixed base itself has limited adjustment range. You have to unclamp the motor and move to another notch.
With that said, Jessem rout-r-lift II is US$219 on Amazon at the moment, and maybe cheaper from other vendors. This one is currently at discount at US$239.99. I would buy this one if it was under $180. Otherwise, jessem seems to be a better option and I can get it in 2 days.
@@HookedonWood The main advantage of a router lift is the ability to easily make course and fine movements. This saves a lot of setup time, but is it worth more than a Bosch router kit with a fine adjustment base? Is the savings in setup time really worth that much?
Better Better, looks like a nice lift, I have a old Harbor freight table with a stock router, I want to get a better router and this lift may work great on the harbor freight table...
This looks a very decent router lift but I just checked on Bangood & it's £280 + £70 shipping so it's not looking such a great deal when can get a JessEm Rout-R-Lift for £299 shipped from within the UK not China.
Or a KREG for £280 UK shipped.
Simple is always reliable!!! And this lift is structurally very simple, but due to the quality of workmanship, it is NOT primitive. I like it very much!!!
It is currently $299 USD. Was it much cheaper before?
$320 now. No longer a bargain. And 3-week delivery. Chinese tools are pricing themselves out of the market.
Wow...less than 18 months later and they have increased the price up to $399.
$240.00 + $20.00 shipping and it doesn't get here until the end of September? I don't think so.
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Unfortunately prive went up US$345.99
I think someone would be crazy to buy something this expensive from banggood or any of the other Chinese retailers. Lots of items never arrive, and their customer service is wholly absent. That’s a lot of money to lose.
Now that is just bad propaganda on your part.
@@bluewanderer9903 Sorry that the facts don’t suit whatever your agenda is. You work for banggood?
@@MKRM27 sure thing buddy, I am sure most people nowdays can recognise an agenda when they see one, you are reflecting. Your propaganda is embarassing.
Choose the tracked shipping and you won't have a problem. Their customer service is definitely minimal, but they will absolutely replace an item that can be shown not to have arrived.
Simple design is a good thing in my opinion. This is one fine lift.
I made my friend buy it about a year ago from rutlands, all he did for the first month is complain "no lock, chinese shit etc... yet all the work I turned on it (shaker doors for his new kitchen and couple of moldings) was perfect, in fact his set up is better than mine (jessem/festool). The only thing better on my set up is ls positioner (just the positoner, incra fence is weak).
About a month ago I offered my set up to him due to me building new bench and building my own router lift/spindle motor and he wouldnt take it, he now thinks this lift and 2400w router motor is better set up and I agree.
The fact is all brand lifts are waaay overpriced, and folks who think they can buy olf2 from sauter for this price are on some serious narcotics. If I wasnt building my own lift from scratch, this is exactly the set up I would go for incl 2400w motor and I would have no problem using it professionaly/several times a week. There is nothing a brand lift will do better than this, or quicker.
hi - what motor were you using? and is this the same one that rultands are offering?
@@scottgoddard6645 it is friend of mine that has it, yes Rutlands 2400w motor.
Lifts look the same, not sure if motors are the same as I havent checked banggood motor, but they do look the same.
It's not affordable at all any more, the price + shipping to Portugal is 340 Euro. The JessEm Mast-R-Lift II costs 380 Euro for comparison (before taxes and shipping).
You have to pick the right moment. I can not say the Jessem is better. From a quality point of view I like the Jessem more. But I use the Jessem at this moment and I often have the idea to change them back.
$230 for a no name Chinese router lift?
There's plenty of lifts from known vendors for $200-300.
...most of which are made in China anyway and are not necessarily any better (and often rather worse, as other commenters have noted). Buying direct from China, cutting out the Western middleman, should mean more product for your money. The point of these reviews is that buying no-name Chinese stuff is decidedly risky; there are some great products buried in mountains of crap. This appears to be one of the good ones.
I sort off agree with some of the comments. First In Europe a lot of these 300 dollar products do cost 450 euro. So, that is a lot more. I only do a review on a product and in this case, this is a nice product. I so not claim it is the best. Rutlands sell this exact same product for 350 dollars. So you can cut an awful lot of money for the same product. Also in some countries products like Jessem and woodpeckers are not available. So, for those who think this could be an interesting product, based on my experience I just can say it works perfectly. The rest is all too the viewer. If i could buy a A-brand for the same price, I probably would buy that too
$320 is affordable??
That's what I'm thinking haha
Well now they want $349 from China. For that amount I will go with a us brand or Canadian.
I appreciate reviews on what I would call higher end products out of China but unfortunately this plate and lift is now an extra US$150 in 2024. At US$350 this has moved into top end territory and in Australia this unit would now cost me almost AU$598 with GST included. Sorry to say Dennis but In my opinion, no router lift kit is worth the cost of a good router no matter how good it is. In fact I can only go on the few reviewers of this product such as yourself, but then I remember you get the unit for free which must make it difficult for you to appreciate just how much this unit actually is.
When you think about it, you get paid to do the review via YT. So, win win for you and nothing but empty pockets for us mugs.
I agree with you on most points. There will be a sale and prices will come down. I rate it at the the price of the review, which I always show. It is a good lift, and you have to decide what price os reasonable. But this is an exception, most products are priced within 10-15% up and down.
Affordable? Its $350 USD now in March 2024. Thats on par or more than the name brands, not sure why anyone would go for this chinese banggood special , no thanks.
I can understand. I would wait for a special offer that comes regularly. I use a Jessem Master now but to be honest, it doesn’t work as nice as this Banggood one. It is that it uses a bit wider platform then my Jessem otherwise I had changed it. Jessem is certainly not bad, but that same counts for this one either!
Price is now $360, so it's more expensive than a Jessem Master Lift. Not worth it.
The price will come down some day. But I have to say, that I use the Jessem Master at this moment again and I am thinking about switching back. I think I prefer this one. The Jessem has difficulties to lift after some work with MDF. I have to clean it every time before lifting otherwise it will stuck. This lift does not have that problem. It is very annoying.
And the Jessem shifts a bit when locking the lift. So, to be honest, this one is more accurate. I do not consider the Jessem a bad lift, but the same is with this lift.
A Kreg is 300, a Jessem is 230 that is made in Canada, how is this affordable? Skip anything from China that you will never be able to get support or parts for. Go with a company that has some history in North America.
Given the current world situation we should NOT be buying our tools from China or anything else for that matter.
JessEm makes a lift for less money. I see no advantage here
really ? which one and can you get it in the uk?
@@scottgoddard6645 well, it's 270 pounds on Amazon UK
@@paulhopkins1905 didnt think about looking there. Dont suppose you know/recommend a decent motor to use with it?
@@scottgoddard6645 I use a Bosch router, any 3.5 inch router motor will work
Welke frees gebruik je normaal gesproken onder deze lift?