In today's video we will be talking about Tripp Photo, Squidnixx and more Second Channel - / @callummarkie2 My Instagram is @callummarkie / callummarkie
We did this. Courthouse wedding. 20 ppl reception. My sister and my mom made my dress and my husband's kilt. Registry was a donation to the animal shelter cause we had all we needed already. Best day of my life.
@@lillysparrow going to the courthouse means the actual ceremony part (bridesmaids and groomsmen, bride walking down aisle, swapping rings in front of family and friends etc) doesn’t happen and the couple instead picks a day and gets dressed up and goes directly to the courthouse to sign the paperwork in front of witnesses that officially makes them legally recognised as married. The signing process has to happen regardless of whether you have a ceremony or not. So it’s just a type of wedding without the traditional ceremony part. Many couples will still have a reception after they are married at the courthouse (reception is the party after the ceremony where they do the first dance and cut the cake etc) hope that helps :-)
Criticisms of the photos and prices are valid. Criticisms of her personal appearance and kids + death threats are NOT okay. Overcharging for low quality photos doesn't justify telling a person to kill themself ISTG
Literally the worst part about TikTok!! Every 2-3 days it’s a new drama on TikTok with a new villain that needs to get harassed endlessly or literally someone just posting something someone else doesn’t agree with
and at the end of the day, shes not doing anything wrong, her clients couldve LOVED those photos because its their style, if theyre on her site they clearly gave permission to use them for the portfolio, so it doesnt even MATTER what yall think, shes just a woman doing a job for a price yall dont like, thats not a crime and also not her problem?????????? yall dont have to like the prices or style but nobody is forcing yall to buy it and clearly her clients were happy enough with the outcome to allow her to use them for her business portfolio.
it’s such an accurate description but i really do feel bad for her, how could the editors allow those photos to be final copies😭 it’s giving corpse wedding
I don't really care that the first lady is overpriced. My issue is that she shamed someone for having a budget on the lower end of fair in most places. 2-4k is what photographers in my area have told me is a fair budget here. Tbh. I think it was rage bait.
@@Thenewboidahliaoh absolutely. Im a painter and part of what i do is taking reference shots. Theres so many shots in her portfolio that are just taken from slightly the wrong angle. The ring photo is wild because it just didn't work out. It reminds me of every young artist who saw what big name professionals get paid, heard artists are underpaid(truth) and decided that starting rate should be what celeb artists get.
My brother and my sister-in-law did not hire photographer. They had disposable cameras throughout the wedding venue and reception venue for people to be able to capture their own memories. They wanted to see the wedding from other point of views, and it was actually quite creative and beautiful.
My aunt had disposable cameras too They wanted pictures of everyone having fun Not to awkwardly sit and smile when a photographer asked Slight problem was halfway through the reception where some guys took the cameras into the toilets Bet you can guess what a few of the pictures were But other than those ones that were immediately thrown away they loved seeing everyone just having fun
I feel like the point that's being missed with the first case that the photographer herself decided to start the drama. In a way she's shamed someone who's asked if she had anything withint their budget/price range and in return she took it tiktok in a "I'm too good for you" manner. Charge what you want for your services but many photographers offer some kind of lower priced packages such as just a portrait taken of the bride and groom, or a few unedited photos for 'x' amount. However none of this makes it ok for people to harass her or send death threats.
Right, she could have just replied, "I'm sorry but my wedding photo packages start at $8.5k" and left it at that instead of making a total ass of herself. She invited the criticism and hate. People still took it way too far but she absolutely put herself in that position.
Maybe she wanted to publicize her price floor so she stops getting inquiries from people looking for way cheaper prices. She just followed a common meme format on social media-a high proportion of which tend to be very snarky. If she didn't identify a specific person, she wasn't really shaming someone. People make very similar posts for services like graphic design and tattooing bc the typical price in big markets is usually much higher than what most laypeople expect.
Yeah, she started it to get attention in the hope she can actually get someone to pay her that baseline that she fully made up! People must think she lives Monaco or something to actually believe she's ever made that even one time. I live in a place where A LOT of people pay that for wedding photography... to *well established photographers with decades of work experience, A professional attitude and websites where the pictures look like they were taken by an adult with talent and not by a kid with a camera phone made before 2010!* If she's ever made over 4k from anybody I'd be absolutely floored and I'd want to know why a blind couple didn't let someone else hire their photographer for them.
Exactly! For my wedding the photographer was the most expensive thing we got, almost half our budget. We could have gotten a package for half the price: just on site shots, one photographer. But we splurged on doing a big bundle with an engagement shoot, some secondary site "first look" and wedding party shots pre wedding, a secondary photographer night of, and a big fancy wedding album. Our photographer was the best! He even stepped in and saved the day when the DJ started playing our wedding song during dinner. He was on top of everything and an absolute pleasure to work with. The photos were stunning and he made our extremely modest venue look like a sparkling wonderland. And still cost well less than half the price of this starting price. I also found thay other high cost vendors, like florists, were totally willing to work on a budget. People shouldn't be embarrassed to say what their budget is. Our florist came up with the idea to reuse the bridesmaids bouquets as center pieces, and it was awesome to get a "double use" for those! And if your prices are so damn high that a 2k budget would only get someone two hours of shooting and no prints, then just say that.
@@r7calvin even if that was the case it's only her being immature and losing her cool over "too many poor people asking her about her prices". You just explain your prices and move on. You don't magically get top rich clientele just because you jack your prices above average. You earn it with your product and reputation. She also apparently has done it multiple times. Not to mention the trend you're talking about is opposite from what she's doing it for. That trend is to call out scam and cheapskate customers who threaten, degrade, bully or trick small businesses into accepting less money for their work. Which is usually average pricing or even below average prices. This lady has way over the average price for her field. 8k+ is what you pay for destination weddings, where you fly your photographer to your wedding in another country or far state. Or just very expensive weddings overall. You can work towards higher end clients and price stuff as you want but getting upset people asking you about your prices is unprofessional and makes 0 sense from a business standpoint. Not to mention most people have packages that cater to lower end prices for a reason, the client gets less in the package but the client is still willing to pay you over the average price for less because they like your work and it fits their budget. Adding in that the trend is usually about normal small average businesses who don't earn 8k+ per gig... she's not hurting in comparison to them. If anything she's hurting herself by having such high prices. It limits your client pool. That's the risk and reward of pining for big clients and big money. Most people who start lifting their prices do it because their reputation begins to precede them and they're getting too many clients to possibly keep up with. So they raise prices since they're in very high demand. If she made a vid of her explaining that she raised her prices, which is another trend in the community, it wouldn't have been seen as putting down people with lower income.
As a photographer, I can not imagine charging 8.5k for a wedding. Also the pictures that are clearly filtered look awful. The overlays and editing are what I would see when working with people who are new to photography and Photoshop. I would have offered to refund them if I ever produced images like those.
Seems reasonable if it's a really big and expensive wedding and an equally high-end photographer. E.g. I would expect celebrity weddings to have really expensive photographers capturing the event.
I'd bet money that's never been her price before now. Someone who doesn't even have enough skill to identify which of her photos make her look capable isn't making half that much, even in a rich area! She KNEW her inappropriate video would get backlash but after seeing artists like mug girl get soooo many people defending and promoting them I bet she expected the same and fabricated the price she WISHES she could charge as her supposed baseline. I can't see any other plausible explanation since there's literally no way she's being paid that.
There are photographers here in Australia that charge that but they’re usually the best of the best and booked out two or three years in advance so I get why THEY charge that much.
I am not even a photographer and her work looks really terrible. It's ridiculous that she's charging so much money for photos that look like this. I would be angry if I was a newly married and looking at these pictures. So angry that I'd be demanding a refund and then going to social media to blast her and ask guests if they have pictures of the wedding.
I love that with the first situation, because he's not into photography, he doesn't see how awful those pictures are. But in the second situation, because it involves editing, he understands how terrible it is. 😂
My dil got ready at my house and the photographer was just starting out so only charged $500. He did move some things around, he hung her dress by the window for a pic, with her shoes etc. He did a really good job and we felt he severely undercharged and so we gave him another $500. This price included an album, 2 parents albums, and some tin photos which were amazing. He did a great job but I think he doubted his own ability. He was great!
That was awesome of you to pay him double when you saw how good he was. I'm sure that helped boost his confidence and made him an even better photographer. With everything he included in the package, $1k was still a great deal.
I don't know why Markie thinks they can't move things... They don't rearrange decor but that's just a common sense thing, not a not allowed to thing. When there's an agreement that "candid" photos will be taken, which some people specifically request and others specifically ask not to have, the photographer usually won't move anything for those shots unless it's really going to compromise the pictures.
@@Lindseyisloony We are Irish/Scottish and very traditional (and yes superstitious!😂) when it comes to many things. Engagement and wedding rings are NOT to be touched by anyone other than the bride, groom and Priest once fitted by the jeweller. The bride ties the rings to something and it’s presented to the Priest/Pastor, usually they just hand the boxes over though. It’s bad luck along with touching the bride’s gown, only the bride can manhandle that dress for a pic if she’s not wearing it. Of course, the Maid of Honour or whomever is chosen helps her put her dress, et. al., on. The groom DOES NOT get to see the bride, same goes for the bride seeing the groom, before the wedding. The list is a bit long. No drama, no fuss. At least I’ve never seen any and I’m 53.
Tbh when they said “it looks like someone’s bathroom” they meant like a good photographer would make it look like a stunning back drop and location. Like you can have your friend take a photo of you in the bathroom but a photographer makes it look like your a model
@@annajoy6357eh… even for documentary style photography I think the backyard and bathroom photos were lacklustre. At my brothers wedding we had photos taken getting ready etc, and some of the locations were not fancy. Just regular places around the home. Still the framing and content had some perspective of the day to it. These just look like stock photos of a person getting ready in a white dress and nothing says wedding to me. I think that’s what the person criticizing meant when they say it looks like just a bathroom. And Mark’s like “they can’t do anything about the location”, 😅 which isn’t the point. A good photographer can make art out of the most common locations and subjects.
@@humblegamer7876agreed!!! That sink looked hella ugly in that angle and I was so annoyed on why she didn’t try to take her on different angles instead of that
Yes! A good photographer knows how to capture moments, not just images! The pics are from such boring angles and the subjects are so static. Anyone can take a blurry picture of the bride’s jewelry, but the point of hiring a photographer is to document sentimental/meaningful moments. She definitely has some talent but a lot of her work just lacks perspective.
I'm a photographer, I've done weddings and the thing you and she are missing (apart from back button focus) is the ability to compose her images at a professional level. I can make "someone's backyard" look amazing by using my considerable experience to compose and frame my images to capitalise on the situation. That's what 8.5k SHOULD be paying for, never mind the corpses.
If someone is charging, and calling themselves a professional, they are not taking a photo, but making it. Dozens of variables can be adjusted, but Tripp didn’t even manage to capture a STILL life without major (and obviously without purpose) blur. Egads.
Right. My degree is in photography, and my advisor used to go on rants about how everyone thinks that all you need is a good camera to take a good picture. He would always say "you wouldn't tell a chef, oh wow, what a delicious meal, you must have some really nice pots and pans! Like yeah, a good chef probably does have those, but you know that the chef made the food, not the pots and pans." The truth is, a good photographer who understands composition can take great photos with any camera. Besides, a fancy camera with all the bells and whistles doesn't help someone who doesn't know how to use those features (like back button focus lolololol).
Compose! That’s the word I was looking for- I said she didn’t understand the theory behind it, color, balance, ratio, perspective… I was saying anyone can take pictures and we all can get lucky with a good photo but a photog has real understanding of their craft. Any background and subject can make a beautiful photo if the photographer can capture the essence of their vision and not just a snapshot with their camera.
Exactly! People think buying an expensive high quality camera will make someone a "photographer" and take nice photos. There's way more to it than that. Anyone can hold up a camera and press the big button to snap a photo but a photographer knows how to use what they have to create the image. They can take a mediocre back ground and a phone camera and make a decent photo out that that.
Yeah, are we supposed to believe that's intentional lol? They look like the photos I took when I got a digital camera for my 12th birthday and goofed around with my friends
The first video, if the photographer hadn't been snarky in the post, where she basically laughed at the potential client for the client's financial situation, then I don't think this blow-up would have happened. The second one, have they asked the photographer if they can edit the photos that look wrong?
Ok now this makes sense. I was wondering why someone would complain about a price they agreed on. Also I assume the client looked at the photographer’s gallery and knew her style, which included blurry shots.
I saw someone say that they made their client pay $25k but then proceeded to explain that it was a destination wedding and the customer wanted pretty much every moment recorded. She had to pay for a team of 3 people going to their destination and paying for their hotel on top of their service, so it made a lot of sense.
I got married in Iceland, paid for the photographer to fly in, have a place to stay + food, + price of all the locations to shoot in and it was 5k and turned out absolutely amazing
There’s an influx of Wedding photographers who think buying a 2 thousand dollar camera and taking slightly over exposed pics justifies trying to charge thousands of dollars
I looked at the rest of her gallery and…they’re not great. Even the non-blurry ones. She’s definitely not terrible by any means but certainly not $8500 worth.
In this first situation, my biggest issue with it is that with a quick scroll of her TikTok page, this photographer seems to have a habit of shaming people who can’t “afford” her prices. Even some of the comments calling her a “luxury photographer” have that same vibe. One entire TikTok video was made just because someone dm’d her asking what the best price she could give them was. There is literally NOTHING wrong with shopping around for the best price, yet this photographer thinks that one question is TT video worthy?! She comes off as holier than thou with that attitude. There’s nothing shameworthy with wanting to save money or having a budget for your wedding.
As a wedding photographer who spends hours agonizing over my editing, the second photographer who used face tune and presets makes me so mad. The editing is usually included in package pricing, and if you don’t want to do it just hire someone else, don’t mess up someone’s wedding forever. Also, I consider all of my clients beautiful, and I want their photos to reflect that, not be some twisted idealized, over edited version of themselves
I'm a makeup artist and I often see the photographer taking flowers, jewellery, the dress, shoes etc and arranging them for staged photos. They ask permission and often the bridesmaids will help get the items.
Yeah i was surprised the rings were spaced apart? The ring shot is supposed to have the 2 rings next to each other or overlapping slightly to show your unity. Unless the couple asked for them to be sprawled apart like a distracted person just tossed them onto a countertop, that was a major prop staging fail on that photographers part.
Professional photographer here; Traditional film, studio, and freelance location photography. The "Backyard" and bathroom photo issues. Poses, angles, shooting direction, framing, ect; CAN all take a beautiful location and cheapen it or an inexpensive location and make it beautiful. Yes, many wedding sessions will take pre-ceremony photos. The difference between an experienced photographer and an amateur one is knowing how to shoot these things properly. These photos do have many technical errors that go beyond stylistic choices. The pricing isn't unheard of, though it is often based on how many years of experience a photographer has, among other factors. In my opinion, these photos demonstrate the (unfortunate) growing issue of professional careers lacking the ability to distinguish certified versus uncertified people. This is how you can get someone who is unable to know the correct techniques versus a person who may be able to re-create photos seen online and choose to call themselves professional. You can mimic a photo, but if you do not know the reasons for how it was created, you will not be able to incorporate those skills in a meaningful way. Photography is subjective. However, there is a theory to follow.
I think pricing is also heavily on region as well. It’s pretty location based and she’s California so I assume that’s where some of the cost comes in. Echoing what you said, I wouldn’t be surprised if she did a lot of wedding workshops and is taking all the advice literally. Thinking maybe Jonas Peterson- type workshop or something and _as you said_ doing the techniques without the knowledge of fundamentals like lighting and composition to back it up. I will give her credit on grading (black and white is a bit inconsistent) and being consistent with photos but that should only get you about $4k-5k for a professional all day coverage in cali 😅 “
@sentimentaltrash Very true. Technical support on photography takes in many aspects, including lighting and composition. The region will absolutely have an impact on pricing, and prices can still reach her set fees in any region. There are studies that can teach her the knowledge that she needs in order to provide a higher quality. These studies should not only contain a setup of shooting but camera use as well. A photographer should use technical things with equipment such as aperture settings and camera settings in order to achieve different stylistic aesthetics. A good photo doesn't rely on chance. It relies on pre-planned concepts. Candid photos do make for great memories as well, but they need to be properly shot. I do hope that she takes constructive criticism in consideration for furthering her jump into this career to succeed.
Exactly! I'm like...there is a way to do it correctly and a wrong way, right? I mean, there's a difference between purposely blurry pix and accidentally blurry pix.
In my photography classes, they told us never take a straight photo unless you HAVE to. And no photo should have anything coming out of their head, like a pillar. Biggest thing though "A good photographer can take a picture of a rock, and people would still be impressed."
@@Lindseyisloonyhonestly. A small wedding with your close friends and family and staying within a modest budget is doable and it’s way better than splashing out 100k+ for one day
My step mom is a photographer and will spend days to weeks editing her photos to be to her high standards, she will have a conference call with her other photographer friends to make sure everything looks good before she does any kind of reveal with her clients
I had wedding photographer drama. We paid 2K for our photos - we only wanted photos for the ceremony, not the reception. Our ceremony was small and short. A lot of people rejected us quoting either a full day or nothing. The photographer we did get was really, really great and had great work. However, they took over a month longer than the contract to deliver (4 months after our wedding), did not give us any thank you cards and no prints (this was in the package). We just cut our losses and got all the digital copies. It was stressful, I cried a lot since I never saw our photos for months but in the end we got them - just not everything we paid.
My brother also had wedding photographer drama at his wedding. So, his soon to be sister in law knew this girl (I think they went to school together) who aspired to become a wedding photographer but needed to get aportfolio to show her prospective clients. When the girl heard about the wedding she offered to shoot it for free if she could use to photos in her portfolio, and was "hired". As she was from the same city as my SIL she knew that my SIL had a cousin that she was close to (their dads were identical twins and thus very close). At the wedding the photographer noticed that Cousin was missing, which she found odd. So, at the reception she went over to his parents and quipped a "funny joke" about how she had been sure that Cousin would rather be dead than to miss the wedding. Ouch. Well, she WAS right. He WAS dead. As in, his funeral had been THE DAY PRIOR. He had been involved in a fatal car crash a week prior where he and his three best friends all perished. His parents told her that he was indeed deceased, and after that the photographer avoided everyone and spent hours taking potos of the wedding cake. So, there were a dozen or so photos of the ceremony, less than a dozen from the reception and like 300 of the wedding cake. Not that it mattered too much as my darling, animal abusing SIL began boinking my brother's best friend less than two weeks after the wedding so that was a very short marriage.
Our photographer was over an hour late and did a terrible job, didn’t take photos with my grandma even though I kept reminding him that it was in the contract to take her pictures first so she could go back to her home and have a break in between photos and the wedding (she was 92!) The pictures sucked and when we went to the appointment to choose what we wanted and we complained about the photographer again (after I had already called them after our honeymoon to tell them what had happened.) They had discussed it with him and he claimed that WE were late! I then told them he had mentioned that the other wedding he was shooting that day had run over and that’s why he was late. Apparently that was against their contract and he got fired. I would have felt bad but he was truly awful. I don’t even have time to post everything that went wrong.
I got married 3 years ago and paid around $2,500…I’ve never received my photos:( he was a legit photographer with good reviews, but then something changed and he scammed like 9 brides. They actually did a news report on it, but I’ve never received a penny back or a single photo.
For 8k I would expect videographer as well as photography, and expect engagement and wedding pics. I mean to each their own I’d rather spend 8k on insane flowers or bougie catering.
Brides with that large of a photo budget aren't typically doing their own wedding make up, too. MUA up-charge bridal looks because of all the effort and products needed to ensure their work stays camera ready through the day. I wonder how much that bride paid her MUA/esthetician just for the photographer to filter everyone to death.
Honestly, charge what you want, but also…. People have a right to say “no thanks” after seeing your prices. In this economy, nobody’s got the money to pay 8.5k for blurry photos. Like I get it, I’m disappointed when people tell me “sorry I can’t afford that” when I tell them my prices, but it’s not offensive… if they don’t have the money then they don’t have the money. They don’t need to tell me why. I get it. We’re all short on cash rn. Art is a commodity. I’m happy for them to come back later or just go with someone else, bc I’ll just go find someone else who *can* afford my work.
I absolutely agree......... online has given people a huge market to sell their services and to purchase services. You have the right to charge whatever you want and you also have the right to not pay more than you want. Don't pay that much because you don't like the photos in a gallery or it is more than you want. It's crazy to think you can decide how much someone "should" be charging for a service. Just remember........ just because it looks great in a gallery, doesn't mean the pictures you get will be that good. Best bet............. get a recommendation or two from people who actually have had their event photographed.... I know that takes time but you may be a LOT happier afterwards.
totally agree! this is a great take. i think my main issue with the first photographer is that she was offended that a client couldn’t afford her prices. i reached out to a photgrapher that was recommended and her packages were way more expensive than i could afford, but i understood that she may want more high end clients and in turn charges more. and she was very understanding when i politely let her know we could not afford her! people just need to be nice!
Yep as an artist myself who does commissions I try to find the balance between a fair price for the work and time I put in, but I also ask myself, could another starving artist afford this…? I don’t want art only accessible to the rich. Ever. Also my art isn’t my main source of income come, that helps too lol.
When the lady mentioned how the jewelry placement "is not it", she's referring to the actual physical placement of the jewelry itself.. like, the way the jewelry was arranged is very random & not picturesque whatsoever... I would imagine the majority of photographers would ask the bride to rearrange the jewelry (or rearrange it themselves with permission obvi) for the picture so that way the photo turns out better & is more pleasing to the eye... as opposed to looking awkward and out of place out-of-place, like this specific photo does.
The whole point is that a good or great photographer could take a photo in a back garden or bathroom and you'd never really know. It could be anywhere. They'd use composition (angling the subject / camera, etc) and so many other cool tricks. Check out professional wedding photography for reference. It's a really awesome artform that I'm always blown away by when I see great work, and appreciate it. She's very "clever" to say that her clearly accidental blurry photos evoke some sort of emotion and it's her brand.
As someone with wedding photography "industry" experience: (on picking a photographer) My advice with hiring any photographer: look at their portfolio and if you like what they've done before, go for it. If you don't like what they've done, I promise you're not going to be happy with your pictures because there are certain artistic and stylistic elements to taking photos as well as editing them. If their work isn't your style that's ok, just pick another photographer whose work you do like. With any form of art, if you don't like it, you don't have to be rude about it. Calling attention to someone actually scamming people is a separate matter. (on prices) I don't know this particular photographer, but prices are going to be based on a lot of variables--maybe she has a team that helps or multiple photographers for the event, maybe she uses higher end equipment (especially lenses, full frame sensor cameras, and lighting equipment), maybe her packages include benefits like web hosting, photo books, prints, etc., maybe she does videography as well, maybe she's in an area that typically requires travel to wedding venues and especially if she has to (possibly) provide travel, food, maybe even lodging for staff for events. (on blurry photos) There's a trend in wedding photography lately where people are asking for photos that communicate the vibe of the moment more than a static posed photo--these are the "blurry" photos I'm seeing people criticize. I think they look great in the context of other wedding photos. Just like the intimate detail photos of the shoes, flowers, and jewelry (and yes, we definitely move and pose these items to get the shot just right unless we're SPECIFICALLY told not to ahead of time), these photos help bring the viewer into the mood of the event. If that mood is spontaneously joyful and fun then there is going to be movement. These photos have a place in an album that's a bit like B-roll's place in a video. There is still an art to doing it "right." I think what people want are photos reminiscent of point-and-shoot camera candid photos that aren't framed quite right or there's a brilliant happy smile clearly visible but everything else is a fun blur. (more on picking a photographer) You're going to get what you pay for. Just like with hiring any professional, get quotes from 3 or more to make sure you're not overpaying. In my area, $3.5k-$7k starting is pretty standard for a wedding package but you might be able to get a good deal if you sign up at a wedding expo event or if your wedding is during the off season. Find someone you and your betrothed vibe well with and you're going to have a good time. P.S. An engagement photoshoot is a great preliminary round to make sure you'll love your photographer and your wedding photos! 💜
It really bothers me when people are so condescending like that, but at the same time, people are wrecking her in the comments. It’s a bit overboard. She’s already screwing herself over having such a high starting price while being so rude publicly. Can’t imagine she gets a whole lot of business…
@@Karmaisabreez the tik tok comes across as publicly shaming someone for not being able to afford your services. not to mention, it's rude to just respond to someone who stated a budget with packages that are four times their budget instead of politely saying 'sorry but my services are out of your budget.' feels pretty passive aggressive to me.
I wouldn’t spend 8k on those photos. I’ve seen iPhone pics better. She should’ve not try to shame people on TT if you don’t have the talent to back it up
I'm only at 5:50 but was married to a photographer who did weddings I assisted with. He was generally in the background, but he would suggest placement of items, lighting, best angles, people placement, etc., No way would that bathroom pic have a soap dispenser in the prominent foreground, wtf.
What happened to a world where if people thought a service was overpriced & subpar, they simply shopped elsewhere?? In a society of 'no bullying', it's all I see online.
This is why portfolios matter when selecting a photographer. This is a good example of what to look for when hiring a professional. As someone who's doing photography for work composition matters a lot when taking photos, that's what I believe the lady was trying to communicate. If you're taking a photo of someone in their back yard or bathroom there are ways to frame the shot so it's focusing on the important details and look professional. Ultimately with the photographers portfolio and price point she'll either have to improve quickly, or lower her prices. I don't see the need to go so far in the comments because the work will always speak for itself. Be careful because people can make fake portfolios too!
i think this is a great comment! if you don’t like those images then choose a different photographer and move on. if she’s losing business then she’ll adjust, but the fact that people pay for it, she seems to be reaching her target market i think where she went wrong was shaming someone for not having the funds to pay for her services! not cool and definitely a bad move
I think the whole “don’t undersell yourself, charge what you’re worth!”, has gone too far. People have taken that to mean, “charge exorbitant prices bc you’ve been made to believe your newbie work is worth it”, even if said person hasn’t put in the work to be charging that much yet, or the prices are just beyond the norm, even for experienced professionals. It’s become a problem.
wedding photographer reporting for duty -- in my experience, most of the time i'm moving stuff around with the bride's permission, especially decorations and macro photo things like the the rings, the veil, the favors, etc. for me, more often than not they're always down to move/change some things (within reason) for a good photo opp!
The lady critical of the photos. I'd say the framing is just off. The bathroom photo the bride should draw the eye... not the door frame then the bride. The photographer is not good, and 8500 for them. Is just like Holy shit, some people have to much money lol
It actually can be a stylistic choice. You can use blur to impart motion. You can use it to make more or less interesting effects. You can do it for modern art style looks. You can combine with second curtain flash to blur out more stuff but the subject. I don't often like artsy photos, but they do it for some people.
I think blurry-ness/out of focus images can be used really well, you just have to choose good subject material. I don’t think it’s the best choice for a wedding, but I can see it being used for artistic photography where you want to convey a meaning to your audience.
Not aware of any laws regarding touching the jewelry, my photographer took some great shots of our rings. But she asked for them, was in my line of sight as she took the pics, and then handed them back. I got married in 2011, maybe rules/trends have changed, or its different in other parts of the world (I'm in the US), but this was a common photo for wedding albums when I got married.
You must admit her being unprofessional and shaming someone who can’t afford her, that she was asking for it. The internet is brutal. A professional photographer would have dealt with this privately and professionally without making the customer feel bad for having a smaller budget.
My wedding photographer cost €600 for hundreds of posed photos, ceremony, and beginning of reception. Super high quality. The key is finding great talent thats in the beginning stages of their career. Someone who has enough of a portfolio to know they’ll be good, but also not enough of a following and not so much experience that they’ll charge a ton. They’ll be invested in making sure you get great pics.
I just watched a video last night talking about blurry photos coming back into trend again…apparently they were A Thing back in the late 1800s/early 1900s, too. Personally…no. We spend so much money on the technology to take the sharpest, most HD pictures possible, why we gonna go in the opposite direction now suddenly?!😭
Wedding Photographer here!! Those out of focus/blurry photos are totally part of a creative trend (I hate this trend but there was a point of time from 2021 to 2023 where those blurry photos were VEREY popular) Yeah it is a lot of money, but some thing I tell my clients when I give them my prices is that I break down exactly why I am charging my fees. Photography fees are based off of a number of factors, I find it best to discuss with my clients and ask for their wants and curate my pricing from there (I have a based hourly rate, but any additional requests come at additional costs). For all we know, 8K could be for an entire production (Many of the weddings I photograph are 10+ hour long days, and super high stress) . Personally, I like to be transparent with all of my clients, and if I cost too much, well thats fine, it was not meant to be. If I get told the client's budget, I will try to accommodate or I will pass the job opportunity on to a photographer in the clients budget. Personally, I do not like the blurry photos, however, I do respect people if that is their creative niche. As my own work is very niche (for context I shoot primarily my weddings in black and white) This is me semi defending where the first photographer is coming from lol as I do want to clarify why some photographers might charge more than others (and I feel semi opinionated to this as I am writing out a wedding photography contract for a client as we speak while this is playing in the background haha) The second story: yeah... lol that definitely looks like amateur/sloppy editing Definitely looks like an apply-all preset added to the photos and they didn’t do a final review before submitting the final 'edits'
Absolutely. She's not getting hate for being overpriced. She's getting hate because her entire channel is built on shaming people who can't afford her. Also, there's a difference between purposely blurry pix and accidentally blurry pix. All her photos truly looked amateur.
@@ThatRedhedd I thought she only shamed someone in that one video and did not know that she shames people in many of her other videos Tbh, I deleted tiktok a while ago and come to Markie's channel specifically to get my tiktok fix haha or else I would have investigated that photographer's tiktok We will have to agree to disagree with the blurry photos aspect as I did creep her portfolio website and that definitely is the "film/disposable camera" trend, I do agree that her photos do look a bit more overly blurry compared to other images I've seen with regards to that trend, but I have seen images equally as blurry as her's from other photographers (its a super cringe trend and some photographer get it right and it looks amazing and others get it wrong and it looks super amateur)
I think the criticism is correct. The lady standing in the yard should've been framed differently, as well as the bathroom pic. They're ok pics.. for a novice.
There is a picture somewhere that shows the couple being reflected off the water. It was a beautiful picture. Then, another photo revealed that it was just a puddle not even a pretty one. It just shows its about the photographers ability and imagination to get amazing pictures no matter what the location is.
Average photos i was a Photographer it was at low end $3500 for 25 yrs the biggest problem was the cameras going Digital and everyone decided to call themselves photographers. Amatuers will use the excuse of blurry photos as a esthetic rather then deleting all the ones that are not good.
I started photography young and would a lot of sports and nature photography and a few years after high school one of the hockey moms was getting married and asked me to be the photographer. Got paid $350 and free food but it was one of the most stressful couple hours of my life. Couldn’t imagine botching someone’s special day with those dollar store edits
Bullying is never ok. I do know a couple of photographers and you pay to make mediocre scenery look better in a photo so yes it is get fault that they kind of suck. She also charges too much even for a good photographer.
the expensive mug drama reminds me of the first drama. i really dont understand how either argument doesn't end at "if you think its too expensive then dont buy from that person". high pricing of optional goods/services with thousands of alternatives is totally 100% ok! if demand supports it, go off! that's literally the only good thing about capitalism lolll
I think from the other perspective, the photographer shamed someone for having a 2k budget so people threw it back in her face that her work wasn’t worth it. Also with mug drama, the mug seller took it too personally when the mug buyer was just briefly explaining her gift haul
with the mug situation, a LOT of work and skill goes into ceramics. The price was $60 USD and 100% a fair and average price for ceramics. This photographer is taking pictures like she's a beginner taking her first ever photos. She's trying for a technique she clearly isn't skilled enough to do and charges 8K.
@@Hypertextz I know, they look really amateurish! i think that's a good argument for why talent doesn't really make or break people in any artistic field. basic competence is generally fine if marketing, networking, and client acquisition skills are your actual talents. nepotism and generational wealth helps too lol
@@Hypertextz she used a pre made mold that she bought for the mug. Plus she made a big deal that it was a special mug for disabled people, yet didn’t make the price more accessible for people with disabilities
The amount of people for the first story proving they don't know what an all day wedding photographer does is wild. It is the wedding photographer's job to take photos of the entire day. Not every single moment will be a glamour shot.
Many people have been responding to that by saying that amateur photos should be distinguishable from professional photos. She needs to curate her website intentionally. Why put average photos up there instead of only her best work? Professional photographers use composition, depth-of-field, lighting, and angle of the shot to make a beautiful photo in any setting. Those skills and techniques are what differentiate the level of quality you expect from a professional photographer. The person critiquing the backyard and bathroom photos articulated herself poorly. What she meant was that those photos look amateur - like her 12-year-old could have e taken them. There was no artistic use of depth-of-field or angle or composition. They didn't look like professional photos.
Yeah I was gonna say, an artist can charge however much they want and if you can’t afford it, that’s not their problem. Find someone cheaper and keep it moving……..BUT 😂 her work is not that good at all, so in this instance she is definitely overcharging. But don’t tell an actual good artist they charge too much. They can charge what they want and you can either afford them or not.
She's not getting hate for being overpriced. She's getting hate because her entire channel is built on shaming people who can't afford her - and her work is amateur.
Businesses are allowed to choose their prices. But I paid $250 for my maternity shoot and the pics were stunning. If someone wants to pay close to $9k, I guess that’s their (not financially responsible) choice.
To be fair, we do not know what her package entails... Does it include an on the day wedding video thats going to be shown in the reception? Does it include photos for the wedding announcements? Her base services could be more than what other people offer. Does it include a phtobooth for the reception? Do they get photo prints?
OH MY GOD finally a drama I heard about before you made a video on it 😂 Also, her work is NOT worth 8.5k I don’t care how overpriced the whole wedding industry is
The problem with the first one is that its price gouging and helps people justify charging crazy amounts for wedding services and people can’t have half decent weddings without being rich or going into debt. It doesn’t deserve hate, but strong criticism for sure.
Wedding photography is theft in general. I remember, about 11years ago, when we were looking for a wedding photographer. The photographer would give a price for a full day of photography when you mention a wedding the price immediately doubles to tripples…
Actually there is usually a reason for that. Wedding photography usually involves a large group of people, which need to be navigated around, framing a venue, framing tons of people for formal family shots, navigating waiters serving food, navigating makeup and dress, framing specific shots like a first look or a first kiss, travelling between venues… I’m not a photographer but I’ve hired some for regular shoots and a for my wedding. They involved very very different levels of work.
Yea gonna second this. I charge 3x more for weddings vs gig photography bc irs so much more demanding and the editing generally takes me 16-22h. I know I’m a slow editor but music photos I can generally run through pretty quickly and upload them in a drive account. whereas weddings I’m doing a 2nd and 3rd pass; curating them, going through and then making them in an album (I’m so slow at this ;-; like it takes me at least 4h if not longer), hiring out a 2nd body or sometimes a spesific lens depending on the couple. Sometimes I’ve gotten a second shooter, also I need to travel sometimes a lot further to the wedding (sometimes interstate), also they’re much longer 8-16h vs like 3h. So yea I feel pretty justified charging 3x as much and I actually quit doing weddings cause the stress got to me so badly.
I agree with you about the first one - their prices and portfolio are available to look through before booking them. If you don't like the price or their style, you dont have to choose them. Now, if the blurry "style" choices or price were hidden until the day you receive your photos, that would be a different story.
I do wanna have WORDS with the person complaining about the photos "being in someone's backyard." My cousin chose to have his wedding in my aunt and uncle's, his parents', backyard, because we'd just learned my aunt's cancer was terminal. They have a lovely backyard, with a big pond, and it was a nice little rustic ceremony because it was sentimental and he wanted to have it there because his mom loved that yard, but it is very clearly a backyard. To think of that woman being so rude about something that may've been sentimental- or hell, all they could've afforded? So gross. That being said, that poor bride from the second part. What a mess.
I feel like the person didn’t explain it correctly. I suck at photos and have a friend who is great at them, we can take a photo of the same thing at it will look different. The photo she showed as example don’t look professional imo - it’s like something your friend would take in your backyard - I wouldn’t pay 8k for something like that
Many people have been responding to that by saying that amateur photos should be distinguishable from professional photos. Professional photographers use composition, depth-of-field, lighting, and angle of the shot to make a beautiful photo in any setting. Those skills and techniques are what differentiate the level of quality you expect from a professional photographer. The person critiquing the backyard and bathroom photos articulated herself poorly. What she meant was that those photos look amateur - like her 12-year-old could have e taken them. There was no artistic use of depth-of-field or angle or composition. They didn't look like professional photos.
There's definitely a niche market out there for those kind of blurry, out of focus photos, but I can't imagine it's a very big one. This is why portfolio's are so important and why you need to be carefully curating them. If this photographer had a few more weddings under their belt and showed off that they *can* do blurry or special interest photos, but have a majority of your standard wedding snap shots, I don't think people would be having as much of a problem. But when you combine poorly staged, blurry photos, and a price tag of 8.5k as a starting fee? You are definitely not going to reach any market or curate a good business environment. However, no matter how much you dispute the situation, that doesn't mean you have the right to go after them IRL. You can criticize the work and her prices all you want, but the people using this as an opportunity to be mean and spiteful to the people behind the scenes and not their content, they're just spineless dicks.
Oooh I've been waiting for you to cover these yay!! Unrelated but I've been here since you were around 50k and seeing you so close to 500k makes me so proud. Kuddos to you ❤
With the first one... I feel like they'd have a point if she hid the blurry photos from public and what you got wasn't exactly what you expected. She's charging what she wants, she obviously gets work, and she's not lying about the quality of her photography. If people want to pay her that much, then hell, you go girl.
She's not getting hate for being overpriced. She's getting hate because her entire channel is built on shaming people who can't afford her - and her work is amateur.
To answer your question about the wedding rings, it's just a matter of preference and taste between the photographer and the bride and groom. Sometimes they will discuss a shot list where they include things like pictures of the wedding rings or the dress /veil.
The wife and I eloped and had a party with everyone back at home, been together for over 20 years so it’s not the wedding that makes the day it’s the person your marrying
I REALLY feel for wedding photographers, dealing with brides and grooms on THEIR day, has to be a total nightmare. Personally, I believe if you have work done then you have a right to talk about the work provided. I completely agree we don't know what these brides and grooms wanted. I also agree if they weren't what was wanted, the photographer never would've showcased poor work. I have known a few brides who had unusual requests. One of my cousins wanted the entire wedding album in a yellowish tint to make it appear aged. I knew another bride who wanted the photographer to make her appear tan, thinner, and perfect in ALL of her pictures. And more than you can imagine requests on removing certain people from their pics. Having worked at a resort, and friends with the photographer, the requests never ceased to amaze me LOL! We even had one bridezilla who wanted all the employees at the resort to wear HER colors LOL! For the record we didn't but we did pin ribbons on our uniforms.
If the photographer likes the photo, it will likely end up in their portfolio regardless of whether the client liked it or not. The majority of pictures taken for my engagement and wedding shoots are just awful, some are flat-out embarrassingly bad, but the photographer loved them and tried to get more even when we told her we didn't like how certain poses she insisted on during the engagement shoot turned out. You won't see our opinions of her work or professionalism anywhere near her business online either because 1) lack of opportunity at the time, and 2) awkwardness around her being a member of a parent's church. Clients can fully hate their photos and experience. That doesn't mean the photographer won't still use them for promotion. (She posted many of the embarrassing pics from our engagement shoot on her Facebook page at the time. Nothing we could do about it.)
@@clockside I am SO sorry that is beyond horrible. I positively hate when "experts" decide they know better. It really is about YOU and what you want, not what the photographer thinks is aesthetic. It should be about capturing and preserving memories, not building a portfolio!
As someone who's in the art community but on a different medium than photography- if there's anything you learn is you might not like someone's prices but there's ALWAYS going to be someone who's willing to pay them for artists. What puts me off from other artists is the AUDACITY they have to shame not only potential clients for 'being out of their price range' and act smug about it. Hey, it's AWESOME you can charge people whatever amount you want, but not everyone is willing to spend that much and it says a lot more about the artist than the client with how they handle it. But also, you better damn well make it worth while for your prices and your skill because uhhh, just cause you in theory CAN charge someone 8k for your work, doesn't mean it's quality. And boasting about it when you can see their work, just makes you look like you scammed someone who didn't know better or didn't know how to say no... First lady's photos deadass look like they were taken on someone's phone while they were waiting for the event to actually start... Doesn't of course excuse the harassment and threats to herself and her family at the end of the day, but Jesus sweetheart please take some critique. That work makes me feel like someone hired an amateur photographer to help at their wedding so they could use it for their assignment credits for their class...
Markie I really enjoy that you stuck by your differing opinion while everyone else was ragging on her. It’s refreshing to see a drama channel take a different stance and I really enjoyed it bc I agree with you! Subbing after this
It was the way she mocked the people who came to her with a low number that bothered me. Of course she can charge whatever she wants, but when she acts like that? Without even saying they were rude, or pushy or anything? JUST that they could only afford $2000? Thats awful. I've lived in LA county, and the snobby elitism is unreal. Even clerks will curl their lip at you if you come to the counter with only clearance items. The elitism in southern california is so awful. It would have cost her absolutely nothing to NOT put those people on blast for having a budget. They weren't trying to offend her. People are going too wild with the hate tho; even snobby people don't deserve this level of vitriol, her child definitely doesn't
You're right. The online behavior of even adults has been increasingly unhinged. It's because of the example set by a president who spent 4 years saying the most ignorant, rude, socially unacceptable, immature, and harmful things on a public stage. He made this behavior seem acceptable.
It's definitely super common at least here in the US for wedding photographers to take staged photos of wedding-related items. At my wedding, the photographer hung my dress from a rafter in the bridal suite while I was getting my hair and makeup done. Came out super cool. They give it all back right after ;-)
From a fellow non connoisseur of the art of photography i want for Charlotte Dobre to cover this drama. She did photography for a while, even weddings. So i want to hear a professional opinion in this because from a normal person it's kinda meh 😂😂😂
One thing I will say, though that I don’t think has really been taken into account is, it’s also what the bride and groom want like photos of boots or something like that might be something that they want the blurry photos taken deliberately might be a part of a display or a series of photos, where it goes from a blurry and more focussed to a perfect photo the problem is you never know I think the prices are a little bit crazy but factoring in the editing time the full days work potentially they’re being more than one person doing it it somewhat makes sense. That being said, I would never pay that much money personally, but if those photos made the bride and groom, happy, then that’s truly what matters at the end of the day.
As someone who does photography, it's hard to know what was discussed prior to a job - It's not something I do full time, I prefer pet photography, but have done a few weddings for friends, mostly to save them money, and hopefully give them photos they enjoy at a fraction of the cost, or often charging nothing for a close friend. I tell people upfront that I prefer doing a more candid style approach to photography, while I won't object to posed photos, especially traditional family ones at a wedding, most of what I like to shoot is as if I'm a fly on a wall. Getting a great candid shot and someone saying they had no idea I was taking a photo is my goal. I've also had so many 'test shots' end up being a favorite. The skin editing is just lazy. No excuse for the excessive manipulation to the face, etc... there is an art to retouching skin, and while programs have brought in features to make it easier, I still use my old tried and true method of skin retouching, which usually involves blowing up a photo and going over every pixel to color correct anything, leaving skin texture and features intact (unless client wants something removed), but less is more when it comes to editing faces especially. Despite what Instagram may show you - I've found most people prefer to look natural in their photos. Harsh sunlight, shadows, ect... noon weddings, all make for difficult lighting situations, but an experienced photographer will know how to work with it, or have the proper items to bounce, reflect, or fill in light when necessary. Brides - a cloudy, overcast day is your friend for great photos!
As a wedding vender myself, so many factors go into creating prices. The style right now is those blurry photos (I’m not a huge fan) but it’s what clients are interested in. Your correct in the fact that the clients seek out venders based on there galleries so they know that style they want and they will pay for it. Plus it’s a common thing for clients to reach out for prices even though they are published on your personal website. I can totally see how that came off like ‘you can’t afford me’ but it can feel a little silly at times cause you pay for a website, with your info and prices posted for anyone to see anytime! But clients will take the more effort to send a email or enquirer. I would never post something like that cause it always hurts my heart when I get stuff like that.
She's not getting hate for being overpriced. She's getting hate because her entire channel is built on shaming people who can't afford her - and her work is amateur.
Sorry but if you think there's ANY CHANCE that she's making 8k for any gigs, which she claims is just her baseline, then I'm not buying your claim. No skilled photographer is unable to identify which of their pictures display those skills. She obviously chose which pictures went on her own website and they're straight up embarrassing. That amount is just what she fabricated in anticipation of all the attention she fully knew she'd attract for being a B. More people will likely have things to say about her and they won't be good!
@@ThatRedhedd i absolutely hate that and clearly missed that part. Some amateurs are good, some professionals are in my opinion embarrassing - and yet have people loving their work. Sadly some pick on price because 'then it must be good'' or 'oh thats a decent price'' and get bad quality. thats more what i tried to say
@@Lindseyisloony im not claiming anything about her price. i have seen people pay ridiculous prices for pictures that are on technical level absolutely trash. and yet they were over the moon with the pictures. some will pay hundreds of euros for a painting which i think is ridiculous. that's more the few i tried to share.
First situation is a classic example that we see daily on the internet these days of people who have nothing better to do than to hate honestly abit pathetic, especially the death threats. Situation 2 was defiantly lazy editing, as the legend that is Markie says, this is a wedding, if any artistic job should be taken seriously it is a wedding day photoshoot. Thanks for the videos mate!
You're right. The online behavior of even adults has been increasingly unhinged. It's because of the example set by a president who spent 4 years saying the most ignorant, rude, socially unacceptable, immature, and harmful things on a public stage. He made this behavior seem acceptable.
1:34 the weird out of focus photos are oddly a huge wedding photo trend right now. It apparently dates back basically to the inception of photography because suddenly you could get images that exactly reflected real life but then artists went “we don’t want that” and they started taking intentionally out of focus “painterly” type photos as a way experiment with the art form. I’m not saying I like it, I just was really boggled by the trend and found out why it’s a thing and thought I’d give a little explanation for anyone else curious. Fads come and go in photography just like any other art form and this seems to be in right now. Eta: it should look artistic and I don’t think the colour one Markie shows looks artistic at all, it just looks unintentionally blurry, that’s not really the trend.
The bathroom photo is a _candid._ Of the bride getting ready in, obviously, the bathroom. They wanted a candid of her getting ready, and that's where she chose to get ready. Whats special is that the bride gets to see a nice photo of that moment, and their potential client base sees that they'll go above and beyond to 'capture special moments'.
There's a way to take a candid photo and frame it artistically. The setting doesn't matter - the composition of the photo, depth-of-field and lighting do. Professional candid photos shouldn't look like they could have been taken by a 10-year-old.
Yea…but no… it’s not good. If she took two steps to the left she could have stopped the brides head from intersecting with the walk and it would have created more contrast / framed her way better. I’d also maybe have used a more telephoto lens and shot at a lower fstop; as the compression will create more of a frame around her. Same with a lower fstop tho it is a little more like “this is standard”. Other thing is I would have probably cropped higher or angled myself differently as the brides stomach on the counter could be deemed unflattering
The wedding prices makes me wanna just go to the courthouse and olive garden and call it a day
Courthouse weddings are the best. More money for a reception and honeymoon.
We did this. Courthouse wedding. 20 ppl reception. My sister and my mom made my dress and my husband's kilt. Registry was a donation to the animal shelter cause we had all we needed already. Best day of my life.
Probably would be me because I hate being the center of attention 💀 I’m not walking down the aisle and everyone is looking at me
We did courthouse and used our $$ for a down payment on a house
@@lillysparrow going to the courthouse means the actual ceremony part (bridesmaids and groomsmen, bride walking down aisle, swapping rings in front of family and friends etc) doesn’t happen and the couple instead picks a day and gets dressed up and goes directly to the courthouse to sign the paperwork in front of witnesses that officially makes them legally recognised as married. The signing process has to happen regardless of whether you have a ceremony or not. So it’s just a type of wedding without the traditional ceremony part. Many couples will still have a reception after they are married at the courthouse (reception is the party after the ceremony where they do the first dance and cut the cake etc) hope that helps :-)
Criticisms of the photos and prices are valid. Criticisms of her personal appearance and kids + death threats are NOT okay. Overcharging for low quality photos doesn't justify telling a person to kill themself ISTG
exactly
Literally the worst part about TikTok!! Every 2-3 days it’s a new drama on TikTok with a new villain that needs to get harassed endlessly or literally someone just posting something someone else doesn’t agree with
exactly this! some people take things way too far. especially considering it doesn't affect us in the slightest
and at the end of the day, shes not doing anything wrong, her clients couldve LOVED those photos because its their style, if theyre on her site they clearly gave permission to use them for the portfolio, so it doesnt even MATTER what yall think, shes just a woman doing a job for a price yall dont like, thats not a crime and also not her problem?????????? yall dont have to like the prices or style but nobody is forcing yall to buy it and clearly her clients were happy enough with the outcome to allow her to use them for her business portfolio.
I honestly don't believe that that's happening, I think it's just to change the subject into making herself a victim, rather than receiving hate
I'm sorry, but I laughed so hard when the bride of the second story said "everybody in my wedding looks like they died a week ago"!
Same 😅 She's recounting it all far more gracefully and respectfully than I could manage, at least. Good for her
it’s such an accurate description but i really do feel bad for her, how could the editors allow those photos to be final copies😭 it’s giving corpse wedding
@@spencerryan6198 corspe wedding but not in a cute or quirky way 😭
Truly... HOW were those allowed to be the final copies?
"It looks like she's been shot!" I guffawed.
“It looks like she’s been shot” took me tf out 😭
I don't really care that the first lady is overpriced. My issue is that she shamed someone for having a budget on the lower end of fair in most places. 2-4k is what photographers in my area have told me is a fair budget here.
Tbh. I think it was rage bait.
Also she kinda sucks for that price
I looked at her actual work website, her prices are legit which..is fucking WILD to me.
It was rage bait whether she meant it that way or not, and when you fish for rage, you can't complain when you get it.
@@Thenewboidahliaoh absolutely. Im a painter and part of what i do is taking reference shots. Theres so many shots in her portfolio that are just taken from slightly the wrong angle. The ring photo is wild because it just didn't work out.
It reminds me of every young artist who saw what big name professionals get paid, heard artists are underpaid(truth) and decided that starting rate should be what celeb artists get.
@@Bacteriophagebs absolutely it was. It's just the type of rage bait that makes me not want her at my wedding
My brother and my sister-in-law did not hire photographer. They had disposable cameras throughout the wedding venue and reception venue for people to be able to capture their own memories. They wanted to see the wedding from other point of views, and it was actually quite creative and beautiful.
I love that idea!
And?
@@liliesrnice honey take your negativity somewhere else. I’m not going to entertain it. Have yourself a blessed day.😊
My aunt had disposable cameras too
They wanted pictures of everyone having fun
Not to awkwardly sit and smile when a photographer asked
Slight problem was halfway through the reception where some guys took the cameras into the toilets
Bet you can guess what a few of the pictures were
But other than those ones that were immediately thrown away they loved seeing everyone just having fun
When I get married I’m doing that!! ❤︎︎tysm for the idea :)
$8500 for a photographer?! I’d rather spend the money on a honeymoon In Thailand
a honeymoon in thailand would probably cost you half as much
@@ileolaiprices aren’t what they used to be unfortunately
That's right around how much it costs anyway
@@anagutierrez8455that’s why they said what they said..
I'm no longer worried about competition when I put myself out there and charge minimum £500 with flexibility
I feel like the point that's being missed with the first case that the photographer herself decided to start the drama. In a way she's shamed someone who's asked if she had anything withint their budget/price range and in return she took it tiktok in a "I'm too good for you" manner. Charge what you want for your services but many photographers offer some kind of lower priced packages such as just a portrait taken of the bride and groom, or a few unedited photos for 'x' amount. However none of this makes it ok for people to harass her or send death threats.
Right, she could have just replied, "I'm sorry but my wedding photo packages start at $8.5k" and left it at that instead of making a total ass of herself. She invited the criticism and hate. People still took it way too far but she absolutely put herself in that position.
Maybe she wanted to publicize her price floor so she stops getting inquiries from people looking for way cheaper prices.
She just followed a common meme format on social media-a high proportion of which tend to be very snarky.
If she didn't identify a specific person, she wasn't really shaming someone. People make very similar posts for services like graphic design and tattooing bc the typical price in big markets is usually much higher than what most laypeople expect.
Yeah, she started it to get attention in the hope she can actually get someone to pay her that baseline that she fully made up! People must think she lives Monaco or something to actually believe she's ever made that even one time. I live in a place where A LOT of people pay that for wedding photography... to *well established photographers with decades of work experience, A professional attitude and websites where the pictures look like they were taken by an adult with talent and not by a kid with a camera phone made before 2010!* If she's ever made over 4k from anybody I'd be absolutely floored and I'd want to know why a blind couple didn't let someone else hire their photographer for them.
Exactly! For my wedding the photographer was the most expensive thing we got, almost half our budget. We could have gotten a package for half the price: just on site shots, one photographer. But we splurged on doing a big bundle with an engagement shoot, some secondary site "first look" and wedding party shots pre wedding, a secondary photographer night of, and a big fancy wedding album.
Our photographer was the best! He even stepped in and saved the day when the DJ started playing our wedding song during dinner. He was on top of everything and an absolute pleasure to work with. The photos were stunning and he made our extremely modest venue look like a sparkling wonderland. And still cost well less than half the price of this starting price.
I also found thay other high cost vendors, like florists, were totally willing to work on a budget. People shouldn't be embarrassed to say what their budget is. Our florist came up with the idea to reuse the bridesmaids bouquets as center pieces, and it was awesome to get a "double use" for those!
And if your prices are so damn high that a 2k budget would only get someone two hours of shooting and no prints, then just say that.
@@r7calvin even if that was the case it's only her being immature and losing her cool over "too many poor people asking her about her prices". You just explain your prices and move on. You don't magically get top rich clientele just because you jack your prices above average. You earn it with your product and reputation. She also apparently has done it multiple times.
Not to mention the trend you're talking about is opposite from what she's doing it for. That trend is to call out scam and cheapskate customers who threaten, degrade, bully or trick small businesses into accepting less money for their work. Which is usually average pricing or even below average prices.
This lady has way over the average price for her field. 8k+ is what you pay for destination weddings, where you fly your photographer to your wedding in another country or far state. Or just very expensive weddings overall.
You can work towards higher end clients and price stuff as you want but getting upset people asking you about your prices is unprofessional and makes 0 sense from a business standpoint. Not to mention most people have packages that cater to lower end prices for a reason, the client gets less in the package but the client is still willing to pay you over the average price for less because they like your work and it fits their budget.
Adding in that the trend is usually about normal small average businesses who don't earn 8k+ per gig... she's not hurting in comparison to them. If anything she's hurting herself by having such high prices. It limits your client pool. That's the risk and reward of pining for big clients and big money. Most people who start lifting their prices do it because their reputation begins to precede them and they're getting too many clients to possibly keep up with. So they raise prices since they're in very high demand. If she made a vid of her explaining that she raised her prices, which is another trend in the community, it wouldn't have been seen as putting down people with lower income.
As a photographer, I can not imagine charging 8.5k for a wedding. Also the pictures that are clearly filtered look awful. The overlays and editing are what I would see when working with people who are new to photography and Photoshop. I would have offered to refund them if I ever produced images like those.
I’m not a photographer. My photos often look like those on that website, which is why I hired a professional for my wedding! 😆
Seems reasonable if it's a really big and expensive wedding and an equally high-end photographer. E.g. I would expect celebrity weddings to have really expensive photographers capturing the event.
I'd bet money that's never been her price before now. Someone who doesn't even have enough skill to identify which of her photos make her look capable isn't making half that much, even in a rich area! She KNEW her inappropriate video would get backlash but after seeing artists like mug girl get soooo many people defending and promoting them I bet she expected the same and fabricated the price she WISHES she could charge as her supposed baseline. I can't see any other plausible explanation since there's literally no way she's being paid that.
There are photographers here in Australia that charge that but they’re usually the best of the best and booked out two or three years in advance so I get why THEY charge that much.
I am not even a photographer and her work looks really terrible. It's ridiculous that she's charging so much money for photos that look like this. I would be angry if I was a newly married and looking at these pictures. So angry that I'd be demanding a refund and then going to social media to blast her and ask guests if they have pictures of the wedding.
I love that with the first situation, because he's not into photography, he doesn't see how awful those pictures are. But in the second situation, because it involves editing, he understands how terrible it is. 😂
For real, he was like ‘the pic of those shoes is just a style you don’t like’
And I was literally like ‘…..honey, no’
@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004 victims of scams aren’t likely to make themselves public
My dil got ready at my house and the photographer was just starting out so only charged $500. He did move some things around, he hung her dress by the window for a pic, with her shoes etc. He did a really good job and we felt he severely undercharged and so we gave him another $500. This price included an album, 2 parents albums, and some tin photos which were amazing. He did a great job but I think he doubted his own ability. He was great!
That was awesome of you to pay him double when you saw how good he was. I'm sure that helped boost his confidence and made him an even better photographer. With everything he included in the package, $1k was still a great deal.
@@phaedrapage4217 it was still an awesome price!
I don't know why Markie thinks they can't move things... They don't rearrange decor but that's just a common sense thing, not a not allowed to thing. When there's an agreement that "candid" photos will be taken, which some people specifically request and others specifically ask not to have, the photographer usually won't move anything for those shots unless it's really going to compromise the pictures.
I love that you paid him what you thought he was worth instead of considering it a bargain and moving on ❤
@@Lindseyisloony We are Irish/Scottish and very traditional (and yes superstitious!😂) when it comes to many things. Engagement and wedding rings are NOT to be touched by anyone other than the bride, groom and Priest once fitted by the jeweller. The bride ties the rings to something and it’s presented to the Priest/Pastor, usually they just hand the boxes over though. It’s bad luck along with touching the bride’s gown, only the bride can manhandle that dress for a pic if she’s not wearing it. Of course, the Maid of Honour or whomever is chosen helps her put her dress, et. al., on. The groom DOES NOT get to see the bride, same goes for the bride seeing the groom, before the wedding. The list is a bit long. No drama, no fuss. At least I’ve never seen any and I’m 53.
Tbh when they said “it looks like someone’s bathroom” they meant like a good photographer would make it look like a stunning back drop and location. Like you can have your friend take a photo of you in the bathroom but a photographer makes it look like your a model
This^ it's about the vision.. it did not seem like she even tried to lay a vision out?
Yeah, showing ninety percent of the frame as just a sink and body products is not the move
@@annajoy6357eh… even for documentary style photography I think the backyard and bathroom photos were lacklustre. At my brothers wedding we had photos taken getting ready etc, and some of the locations were not fancy. Just regular places around the home. Still the framing and content had some perspective of the day to it. These just look like stock photos of a person getting ready in a white dress and nothing says wedding to me. I think that’s what the person criticizing meant when they say it looks like just a bathroom. And Mark’s like “they can’t do anything about the location”, 😅 which isn’t the point. A good photographer can make art out of the most common locations and subjects.
@@humblegamer7876agreed!!! That sink looked hella ugly in that angle and I was so annoyed on why she didn’t try to take her on different angles instead of that
Yes! A good photographer knows how to capture moments, not just images! The pics are from such boring angles and the subjects are so static. Anyone can take a blurry picture of the bride’s jewelry, but the point of hiring a photographer is to document sentimental/meaningful moments. She definitely has some talent but a lot of her work just lacks perspective.
I'm a photographer, I've done weddings and the thing you and she are missing (apart from back button focus) is the ability to compose her images at a professional level. I can make "someone's backyard" look amazing by using my considerable experience to compose and frame my images to capitalise on the situation. That's what 8.5k SHOULD be paying for, never mind the corpses.
I didn’t see the 2/3rds rule applied one single time. Photography 101.
If someone is charging, and calling themselves a professional, they are not taking a photo, but making it. Dozens of variables can be adjusted, but Tripp didn’t even manage to capture a STILL life without major (and obviously without purpose) blur. Egads.
Right. My degree is in photography, and my advisor used to go on rants about how everyone thinks that all you need is a good camera to take a good picture. He would always say "you wouldn't tell a chef, oh wow, what a delicious meal, you must have some really nice pots and pans! Like yeah, a good chef probably does have those, but you know that the chef made the food, not the pots and pans."
The truth is, a good photographer who understands composition can take great photos with any camera. Besides, a fancy camera with all the bells and whistles doesn't help someone who doesn't know how to use those features (like back button focus lolololol).
Compose! That’s the word I was looking for- I said she didn’t understand the theory behind it, color, balance, ratio, perspective… I was saying anyone can take pictures and we all can get lucky with a good photo but a photog has real understanding of their craft. Any background and subject can make a beautiful photo if the photographer can capture the essence of their vision and not just a snapshot with their camera.
Exactly! People think buying an expensive high quality camera will make someone a "photographer" and take nice photos. There's way more to it than that. Anyone can hold up a camera and press the big button to snap a photo but a photographer knows how to use what they have to create the image. They can take a mediocre back ground and a phone camera and make a decent photo out that that.
I've seen photos that are "meant to be blurry".... And these sure are not it lol
Theres a difference between the "dreamy" look and looking like you got shoved while taking a pic
@@kaibaiarrio1299 More like "dreamy" look and "looking like you were struggling with someone who tried to steal your camera while you took the photo"
Yeah, are we supposed to believe that's intentional lol? They look like the photos I took when I got a digital camera for my 12th birthday and goofed around with my friends
The first video, if the photographer hadn't been snarky in the post, where she basically laughed at the potential client for the client's financial situation, then I don't think this blow-up would have happened.
The second one, have they asked the photographer if they can edit the photos that look wrong?
Ok now this makes sense. I was wondering why someone would complain about a price they agreed on. Also I assume the client looked at the photographer’s gallery and knew her style, which included blurry shots.
I saw someone say that they made their client pay $25k but then proceeded to explain that it was a destination wedding and the customer wanted pretty much every moment recorded. She had to pay for a team of 3 people going to their destination and paying for their hotel on top of their service, so it made a lot of sense.
I got married in Iceland, paid for the photographer to fly in, have a place to stay + food, + price of all the locations to shoot in and it was 5k and turned out absolutely amazing
Markie doesn't understand that it's not just the taking of the photos, but also to post-photo editting and the first lady doesnt seem to do any.
There’s an influx of Wedding photographers who think buying a 2 thousand dollar camera and taking slightly over exposed pics justifies trying to charge thousands of dollars
I looked at the rest of her gallery and…they’re not great. Even the non-blurry ones. She’s definitely not terrible by any means but certainly not $8500 worth.
In this first situation, my biggest issue with it is that with a quick scroll of her TikTok page, this photographer seems to have a habit of shaming people who can’t “afford” her prices. Even some of the comments calling her a “luxury photographer” have that same vibe. One entire TikTok video was made just because someone dm’d her asking what the best price she could give them was. There is literally NOTHING wrong with shopping around for the best price, yet this photographer thinks that one question is TT video worthy?! She comes off as holier than thou with that attitude. There’s nothing shameworthy with wanting to save money or having a budget for your wedding.
Exactly! She's getting hate for being a dick.
As a wedding photographer who spends hours agonizing over my editing, the second photographer who used face tune and presets makes me so mad. The editing is usually included in package pricing, and if you don’t want to do it just hire someone else, don’t mess up someone’s wedding forever. Also, I consider all of my clients beautiful, and I want their photos to reflect that, not be some twisted idealized, over edited version of themselves
I'm a makeup artist and I often see the photographer taking flowers, jewellery, the dress, shoes etc and arranging them for staged photos. They ask permission and often the bridesmaids will help get the items.
it’s often recommended to have a “details box” with rings, cufflinks, etc for the photographer to use to flat lays! we did this for our wedding
I think she understood that they were staged accessory photos.. but they werent staged well imo
Yeah i was surprised the rings were spaced apart? The ring shot is supposed to have the 2 rings next to each other or overlapping slightly to show your unity. Unless the couple asked for them to be sprawled apart like a distracted person just tossed them onto a countertop, that was a major prop staging fail on that photographers part.
Professional photographer here; Traditional film, studio, and freelance location photography.
The "Backyard" and bathroom photo issues. Poses, angles, shooting direction, framing, ect; CAN all take a beautiful location and cheapen it or an inexpensive location and make it beautiful.
Yes, many wedding sessions will take pre-ceremony photos. The difference between an experienced photographer and an amateur one is knowing how to shoot these things properly.
These photos do have many technical errors that go beyond stylistic choices.
The pricing isn't unheard of, though it is often based on how many years of experience a photographer has, among other factors.
In my opinion, these photos demonstrate the (unfortunate) growing issue of professional careers lacking the ability to distinguish certified versus uncertified people.
This is how you can get someone who is unable to know the correct techniques versus a person who may be able to re-create photos seen online and choose to call themselves professional. You can mimic a photo, but if you do not know the reasons for how it was created, you will not be able to incorporate those skills in a meaningful way.
Photography is subjective. However, there is a theory to follow.
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I think pricing is also heavily on region as well. It’s pretty location based and she’s California so I assume that’s where some of the cost comes in.
Echoing what you said, I wouldn’t be surprised if she did a lot of wedding workshops and is taking all the advice literally. Thinking maybe Jonas Peterson- type workshop or something and _as you said_ doing the techniques without the knowledge of fundamentals like lighting and composition to back it up.
I will give her credit on grading (black and white is a bit inconsistent) and being consistent with photos but that should only get you about $4k-5k for a professional all day coverage in cali 😅 “
@sentimentaltrash Very true. Technical support on photography takes in many aspects, including lighting and composition.
The region will absolutely have an impact on pricing, and prices can still reach her set fees in any region.
There are studies that can teach her the knowledge that she needs in order to provide a higher quality. These studies should not only contain a setup of shooting but camera use as well. A photographer should use technical things with equipment such as aperture settings and camera settings in order to achieve different stylistic aesthetics. A good photo doesn't rely on chance. It relies on pre-planned concepts. Candid photos do make for great memories as well, but they need to be properly shot. I do hope that she takes constructive criticism in consideration for furthering her jump into this career to succeed.
Blurry photos are supposed to have a focal point that isn't blurry.
Exactly! I'm like...there is a way to do it correctly and a wrong way, right? I mean, there's a difference between purposely blurry pix and accidentally blurry pix.
In my photography classes, they told us never take a straight photo unless you HAVE to. And no photo should have anything coming out of their head, like a pillar. Biggest thing though "A good photographer can take a picture of a rock, and people would still be impressed."
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What do you mean by “straight”? I’m assuming you don’t mean angle, so just curious!
I mean this in the nicest possible, but the photos look like what I posted in middle school thinking I was such a great photographer.
Thats great. But she has customers who are happy with what they received.
That's all that really matters.
@@blastingoffquality is what matters. When her customers get educated on why he'd pictures are terrible, they'll hate them too
@kay-oc2zm
Lmao, watch out guys. This guy has the only right opinion apparently. Jfc don't be jealous because you can't hustle like she can
That wasn't nice at all.
Yeah, they’re very very basic
the last thing a wedding need is more drama
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Ugh. Why can't we normalize the understanding that MOST weddings aren't dramatic in the least? It's like people have no clue how the internet works.
@@Lindseyisloony lol its humor, its on google
@@Lindseyisloonyhonestly. A small wedding with your close friends and family and staying within a modest budget is doable and it’s way better than splashing out 100k+ for one day
My step mom is a photographer and will spend days to weeks editing her photos to be to her high standards, she will have a conference call with her other photographer friends to make sure everything looks good before she does any kind of reveal with her clients
I had wedding photographer drama. We paid 2K for our photos - we only wanted photos for the ceremony, not the reception. Our ceremony was small and short. A lot of people rejected us quoting either a full day or nothing. The photographer we did get was really, really great and had great work. However, they took over a month longer than the contract to deliver (4 months after our wedding), did not give us any thank you cards and no prints (this was in the package). We just cut our losses and got all the digital copies. It was stressful, I cried a lot since I never saw our photos for months but in the end we got them - just not everything we paid.
That’s so unfair! I’m so sorry about that, it sucks when people pull one from under us!
My brother also had wedding photographer drama at his wedding.
So, his soon to be sister in law knew this girl (I think they went to school together) who aspired to become a wedding photographer but needed to get aportfolio to show her prospective clients. When the girl heard about the wedding she offered to shoot it for free if she could use to photos in her portfolio, and was "hired".
As she was from the same city as my SIL she knew that my SIL had a cousin that she was close to (their dads were identical twins and thus very close). At the wedding the photographer noticed that Cousin was missing, which she found odd. So, at the reception she went over to his parents and quipped a "funny joke" about how she had been sure that Cousin would rather be dead than to miss the wedding.
Ouch.
Well, she WAS right. He WAS dead. As in, his funeral had been THE DAY PRIOR. He had been involved in a fatal car crash a week prior where he and his three best friends all perished.
His parents told her that he was indeed deceased, and after that the photographer avoided everyone and spent hours taking potos of the wedding cake. So, there were a dozen or so photos of the ceremony, less than a dozen from the reception and like 300 of the wedding cake. Not that it mattered too much as my darling, animal abusing SIL began boinking my brother's best friend less than two weeks after the wedding so that was a very short marriage.
Our photographer was over an hour late and did a terrible job, didn’t take photos with my grandma even though I kept reminding him that it was in the contract to take her pictures first so she could go back to her home and have a break in between photos and the wedding (she was 92!) The pictures sucked and when we went to the appointment to choose what we wanted and we complained about the photographer again (after I had already called them after our honeymoon to tell them what had happened.) They had discussed it with him and he claimed that WE were late! I then told them he had mentioned that the other wedding he was shooting that day had run over and that’s why he was late. Apparently that was against their contract and he got fired. I would have felt bad but he was truly awful. I don’t even have time to post everything that went wrong.
that’s so lame honestly i hope u left them a review
I got married 3 years ago and paid around $2,500…I’ve never received my photos:( he was a legit photographer with good reviews, but then something changed and he scammed like 9 brides. They actually did a news report on it, but I’ve never received a penny back or a single photo.
the comments are right. her pictures are not worth $8k at all.
For 8k I would expect videographer as well as photography, and expect engagement and wedding pics. I mean to each their own I’d rather spend 8k on insane flowers or bougie catering.
I literally can do better with my under 200 dollars android phone
@@LizStaples i've photographed/videoed several weddings and you are correct lol even 8k is fairly high for the combo
Brides with that large of a photo budget aren't typically doing their own wedding make up, too. MUA up-charge bridal looks because of all the effort and products needed to ensure their work stays camera ready through the day.
I wonder how much that bride paid her MUA/esthetician just for the photographer to filter everyone to death.
Honestly, charge what you want, but also…. People have a right to say “no thanks” after seeing your prices. In this economy, nobody’s got the money to pay 8.5k for blurry photos. Like I get it, I’m disappointed when people tell me “sorry I can’t afford that” when I tell them my prices, but it’s not offensive… if they don’t have the money then they don’t have the money. They don’t need to tell me why. I get it. We’re all short on cash rn. Art is a commodity. I’m happy for them to come back later or just go with someone else, bc I’ll just go find someone else who *can* afford my work.
I absolutely agree......... online has given people a huge market to sell their services and to purchase services. You have the right to charge whatever you want and you also have the right to not pay more than you want. Don't pay that much because you don't like the photos in a gallery or it is more than you want. It's crazy to think you can decide how much someone "should" be charging for a service. Just remember........ just because it looks great in a gallery, doesn't mean the pictures you get will be that good. Best bet............. get a recommendation or two from people who actually have had their event photographed.... I know that takes time but you may be a LOT happier afterwards.
totally agree! this is a great take. i think my main issue with the first photographer is that she was offended that a client couldn’t afford her prices. i reached out to a photgrapher that was recommended and her packages were way more expensive than i could afford, but i understood that she may want more high end clients and in turn charges more. and she was very understanding when i politely let her know we could not afford her!
people just need to be nice!
Yep as an artist myself who does commissions I try to find the balance between a fair price for the work and time I put in, but I also ask myself, could another starving artist afford this…? I don’t want art only accessible to the rich. Ever.
Also my art isn’t my main source of income come, that helps too lol.
Seeing how bold people are about their pricing makes me realize I shouldn't question mine
When the lady mentioned how the jewelry placement "is not it", she's referring to the actual physical placement of the jewelry itself.. like, the way the jewelry was arranged is very random & not picturesque whatsoever... I would imagine the majority of photographers would ask the bride to rearrange the jewelry (or rearrange it themselves with permission obvi) for the picture so that way the photo turns out better & is more pleasing to the eye... as opposed to looking awkward and out of place out-of-place, like this specific photo does.
The whole point is that a good or great photographer could take a photo in a back garden or bathroom and you'd never really know. It could be anywhere. They'd use composition (angling the subject / camera, etc) and so many other cool tricks. Check out professional wedding photography for reference. It's a really awesome artform that I'm always blown away by when I see great work, and appreciate it. She's very "clever" to say that her clearly accidental blurry photos evoke some sort of emotion and it's her brand.
You'd also expect your photos to be well polished (nicely edited to clean them up) for that price. I'm just stunned she got customers prior tbh.
100% spot on!
As someone with wedding photography "industry" experience:
(on picking a photographer) My advice with hiring any photographer: look at their portfolio and if you like what they've done before, go for it. If you don't like what they've done, I promise you're not going to be happy with your pictures because there are certain artistic and stylistic elements to taking photos as well as editing them. If their work isn't your style that's ok, just pick another photographer whose work you do like. With any form of art, if you don't like it, you don't have to be rude about it. Calling attention to someone actually scamming people is a separate matter.
(on prices) I don't know this particular photographer, but prices are going to be based on a lot of variables--maybe she has a team that helps or multiple photographers for the event, maybe she uses higher end equipment (especially lenses, full frame sensor cameras, and lighting equipment), maybe her packages include benefits like web hosting, photo books, prints, etc., maybe she does videography as well, maybe she's in an area that typically requires travel to wedding venues and especially if she has to (possibly) provide travel, food, maybe even lodging for staff for events.
(on blurry photos) There's a trend in wedding photography lately where people are asking for photos that communicate the vibe of the moment more than a static posed photo--these are the "blurry" photos I'm seeing people criticize. I think they look great in the context of other wedding photos. Just like the intimate detail photos of the shoes, flowers, and jewelry (and yes, we definitely move and pose these items to get the shot just right unless we're SPECIFICALLY told not to ahead of time), these photos help bring the viewer into the mood of the event. If that mood is spontaneously joyful and fun then there is going to be movement. These photos have a place in an album that's a bit like B-roll's place in a video. There is still an art to doing it "right." I think what people want are photos reminiscent of point-and-shoot camera candid photos that aren't framed quite right or there's a brilliant happy smile clearly visible but everything else is a fun blur.
(more on picking a photographer) You're going to get what you pay for. Just like with hiring any professional, get quotes from 3 or more to make sure you're not overpaying. In my area, $3.5k-$7k starting is pretty standard for a wedding package but you might be able to get a good deal if you sign up at a wedding expo event or if your wedding is during the off season. Find someone you and your betrothed vibe well with and you're going to have a good time.
P.S. An engagement photoshoot is a great preliminary round to make sure you'll love your photographer and your wedding photos! 💜
It really bothers me when people are so condescending like that, but at the same time, people are wrecking her in the comments. It’s a bit overboard. She’s already screwing herself over having such a high starting price while being so rude publicly. Can’t imagine she gets a whole lot of business…
Not to mention, a lot of the photos shown are very high school photography class style
Not to mention the subtle classism. “She only has a 2k budget but my prices at 8k starting haha”
When was she rude, did I miss something? (completely possible lol)
@@Karmaisabreez the initial TikTok is just pretty tasteless to make.
@@Karmaisabreez the tik tok comes across as publicly shaming someone for not being able to afford your services. not to mention, it's rude to just respond to someone who stated a budget with packages that are four times their budget instead of politely saying 'sorry but my services are out of your budget.' feels pretty passive aggressive to me.
I'm sorry but I'm laughing hard at the corpse wedding 😂
I wouldn’t spend 8k on those photos. I’ve seen iPhone pics better. She should’ve not try to shame people on TT if you don’t have the talent to back it up
I'm only at 5:50 but was married to a photographer who did weddings I assisted with. He was generally in the background, but he would suggest placement of items, lighting, best angles, people placement, etc., No way would that bathroom pic have a soap dispenser in the prominent foreground, wtf.
Exactly!!!
As a photographer, sometimes ya just look at a photo and you’re like wtf were they going for w/these edits 😂😅
What happened to a world where if people thought a service was overpriced & subpar, they simply shopped elsewhere?? In a society of 'no bullying', it's all I see online.
This is why portfolios matter when selecting a photographer. This is a good example of what to look for when hiring a professional. As someone who's doing photography for work composition matters a lot when taking photos, that's what I believe the lady was trying to communicate. If you're taking a photo of someone in their back yard or bathroom there are ways to frame the shot so it's focusing on the important details and look professional. Ultimately with the photographers portfolio and price point she'll either have to improve quickly, or lower her prices. I don't see the need to go so far in the comments because the work will always speak for itself. Be careful because people can make fake portfolios too!
Yeah I feel like the photos looked like something I would take with my iPhone - they don’t look professional
i think this is a great comment! if you don’t like those images then choose a different photographer and move on. if she’s losing business then she’ll adjust, but the fact that people pay for it, she seems to be reaching her target market
i think where she went wrong was shaming someone for not having the funds to pay for her services! not cool and definitely a bad move
I think the whole “don’t undersell yourself, charge what you’re worth!”, has gone too far. People have taken that to mean, “charge exorbitant prices bc you’ve been made to believe your newbie work is worth it”, even if said person hasn’t put in the work to be charging that much yet, or the prices are just beyond the norm, even for experienced professionals. It’s become a problem.
This is why you don't use photoshop as a wedding photographer. You use lightroom.
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wedding photographer reporting for duty -- in my experience, most of the time i'm moving stuff around with the bride's permission, especially decorations and macro photo things like the the rings, the veil, the favors, etc. for me, more often than not they're always down to move/change some things (within reason) for a good photo opp!
also i would never in my wildest dreams charge 8k for a shoot but AM lowkey jealous of their ability to get any clients to sign on at that price 💀
The lady critical of the photos. I'd say the framing is just off. The bathroom photo the bride should draw the eye... not the door frame then the bride. The photographer is not good, and 8500 for them. Is just like Holy shit, some people have to much money lol
Blurry photos as a design choice is awful. My eyes are trying to correct themselves but they can't
it is even worse when you see more on the website. they are so bad
to me it's a mark of a bad photographer.
there's a big difference between like depth of field out of focus and the blurriness that looks like my grandma taking a photo accidentally
It actually can be a stylistic choice. You can use blur to impart motion. You can use it to make more or less interesting effects. You can do it for modern art style looks. You can combine with second curtain flash to blur out more stuff but the subject.
I don't often like artsy photos, but they do it for some people.
I think blurry-ness/out of focus images can be used really well, you just have to choose good subject material. I don’t think it’s the best choice for a wedding, but I can see it being used for artistic photography where you want to convey a meaning to your audience.
Not aware of any laws regarding touching the jewelry, my photographer took some great shots of our rings. But she asked for them, was in my line of sight as she took the pics, and then handed them back. I got married in 2011, maybe rules/trends have changed, or its different in other parts of the world (I'm in the US), but this was a common photo for wedding albums when I got married.
You must admit her being unprofessional and shaming someone who can’t afford her, that she was asking for it. The internet is brutal. A professional photographer would have dealt with this privately and professionally without making the customer feel bad for having a smaller budget.
My wedding photographer cost €600 for hundreds of posed photos, ceremony, and beginning of reception. Super high quality. The key is finding great talent thats in the beginning stages of their career. Someone who has enough of a portfolio to know they’ll be good, but also not enough of a following and not so much experience that they’ll charge a ton. They’ll be invested in making sure you get great pics.
I just watched a video last night talking about blurry photos coming back into trend again…apparently they were A Thing back in the late 1800s/early 1900s, too. Personally…no. We spend so much money on the technology to take the sharpest, most HD pictures possible, why we gonna go in the opposite direction now suddenly?!😭
Right! There's a difference between purposely blurry pix and accidentally blurry pix. They're supposed to have a single, non-blurry focal point.
Wedding Photographer here!!
Those out of focus/blurry photos are totally part of a creative trend (I hate this trend but there was a point of time from 2021 to 2023 where those blurry photos were VEREY popular)
Yeah it is a lot of money, but some thing I tell my clients when I give them my prices is that I break down exactly why I am charging my fees. Photography fees are based off of a number of factors, I find it best to discuss with my clients and ask for their wants and curate my pricing from there (I have a based hourly rate, but any additional requests come at additional costs). For all we know, 8K could be for an entire production (Many of the weddings I photograph are 10+ hour long days, and super high stress) . Personally, I like to be transparent with all of my clients, and if I cost too much, well thats fine, it was not meant to be. If I get told the client's budget, I will try to accommodate or I will pass the job opportunity on to a photographer in the clients budget.
Personally, I do not like the blurry photos, however, I do respect people if that is their creative niche. As my own work is very niche (for context I shoot primarily my weddings in black and white)
This is me semi defending where the first photographer is coming from lol as I do want to clarify why some photographers might charge more than others (and I feel semi opinionated to this as I am writing out a wedding photography contract for a client as we speak while this is playing in the background haha)
The second story: yeah... lol that definitely looks like amateur/sloppy editing
Definitely looks like an apply-all preset added to the photos and they didn’t do a final review before submitting the final 'edits'
Absolutely. She's not getting hate for being overpriced. She's getting hate because her entire channel is built on shaming people who can't afford her.
Also, there's a difference between purposely blurry pix and accidentally blurry pix. All her photos truly looked amateur.
@@ThatRedhedd I thought she only shamed someone in that one video and did not know that she shames people in many of her other videos
Tbh, I deleted tiktok a while ago and come to Markie's channel specifically to get my tiktok fix haha or else I would have investigated that photographer's tiktok
We will have to agree to disagree with the blurry photos aspect as I did creep her portfolio website and that definitely is the "film/disposable camera" trend, I do agree that her photos do look a bit more overly blurry compared to other images I've seen with regards to that trend, but I have seen images equally as blurry as her's from other photographers (its a super cringe trend and some photographer get it right and it looks amazing and others get it wrong and it looks super amateur)
I think the criticism is correct. The lady standing in the yard should've been framed differently, as well as the bathroom pic. They're ok pics.. for a novice.
Exactly!
There is a picture somewhere that shows the couple being reflected off the water. It was a beautiful picture. Then, another photo revealed that it was just a puddle not even a pretty one. It just shows its about the photographers ability and imagination to get amazing pictures no matter what the location is.
Average photos i was a Photographer it was at low end $3500 for 25 yrs the biggest problem was the cameras going Digital and everyone decided to call themselves photographers. Amatuers will use the excuse of blurry photos as a esthetic rather then deleting all the ones that are not good.
I started photography young and would a lot of sports and nature photography and a few years after high school one of the hockey moms was getting married and asked me to be the photographer. Got paid $350 and free food but it was one of the most stressful couple hours of my life. Couldn’t imagine botching someone’s special day with those dollar store edits
Bullying is never ok. I do know a couple of photographers and you pay to make mediocre scenery look better in a photo so yes it is get fault that they kind of suck. She also charges too much even for a good photographer.
When you can take better pics on your phone camera & snap than these "photographers" 💀💀
the expensive mug drama reminds me of the first drama. i really dont understand how either argument doesn't end at "if you think its too expensive then dont buy from that person". high pricing of optional goods/services with thousands of alternatives is totally 100% ok! if demand supports it, go off! that's literally the only good thing about capitalism lolll
I think from the other perspective, the photographer shamed someone for having a 2k budget so people threw it back in her face that her work wasn’t worth it. Also with mug drama, the mug seller took it too personally when the mug buyer was just briefly explaining her gift haul
@@dotcom3015 true i see what you're saying :)
with the mug situation, a LOT of work and skill goes into ceramics. The price was $60 USD and 100% a fair and average price for ceramics. This photographer is taking pictures like she's a beginner taking her first ever photos. She's trying for a technique she clearly isn't skilled enough to do and charges 8K.
@@Hypertextz I know, they look really amateurish! i think that's a good argument for why talent doesn't really make or break people in any artistic field. basic competence is generally fine if marketing, networking, and client acquisition skills are your actual talents. nepotism and generational wealth helps too lol
@@Hypertextz she used a pre made mold that she bought for the mug. Plus she made a big deal that it was a special mug for disabled people, yet didn’t make the price more accessible for people with disabilities
"Maybe he did shave half his face?"😂😂😂😂
Immediately goes onto channel and look at the thumbnails. I really admire them now. A whole new view
The amount of people for the first story proving they don't know what an all day wedding photographer does is wild. It is the wedding photographer's job to take photos of the entire day. Not every single moment will be a glamour shot.
True. They take SO many it's insane, there are way more to choose from than not
Many people have been responding to that by saying that amateur photos should be distinguishable from professional photos. She needs to curate her website intentionally. Why put average photos up there instead of only her best work?
Professional photographers use composition, depth-of-field, lighting, and angle of the shot to make a beautiful photo in any setting. Those skills and techniques are what differentiate the level of quality you expect from a professional photographer.
The person critiquing the backyard and bathroom photos articulated herself poorly. What she meant was that those photos look amateur - like her 12-year-old could have e taken them. There was no artistic use of depth-of-field or angle or composition. They didn't look like professional photos.
Yeah I was gonna say, an artist can charge however much they want and if you can’t afford it, that’s not their problem. Find someone cheaper and keep it moving……..BUT 😂 her work is not that good at all, so in this instance she is definitely overcharging. But don’t tell an actual good artist they charge too much. They can charge what they want and you can either afford them or not.
She's not getting hate for being overpriced. She's getting hate because her entire channel is built on shaming people who can't afford her - and her work is amateur.
Remember that these are the photos going into one's album. No one wants a picture of shoes.
Businesses are allowed to choose their prices. But I paid $250 for my maternity shoot and the pics were stunning. If someone wants to pay close to $9k, I guess that’s their (not financially responsible) choice.
Is there really no 9 month cruise drama or did they just outright cancel the cruise? Lol
Right?!!
To be fair, we do not know what her package entails... Does it include an on the day wedding video thats going to be shown in the reception? Does it include photos for the wedding announcements? Her base services could be more than what other people offer. Does it include a phtobooth for the reception? Do they get photo prints?
It never ceases to amaze me how much niche drama there is on TikTok. It’s never ending!
OH MY GOD finally a drama I heard about before you made a video on it 😂
Also, her work is NOT worth 8.5k I don’t care how overpriced the whole wedding industry is
The problem with the first one is that its price gouging and helps people justify charging crazy amounts for wedding services and people can’t have half decent weddings without being rich or going into debt. It doesn’t deserve hate, but strong criticism for sure.
Wedding photography is theft in general.
I remember, about 11years ago, when we were looking for a wedding photographer. The photographer would give a price for a full day of photography when you mention a wedding the price immediately doubles to tripples…
Actually there is usually a reason for that. Wedding photography usually involves a large group of people, which need to be navigated around, framing a venue, framing tons of people for formal family shots, navigating waiters serving food, navigating makeup and dress, framing specific shots like a first look or a first kiss, travelling between venues…
I’m not a photographer but I’ve hired some for regular shoots and a for my wedding. They involved very very different levels of work.
Yea gonna second this. I charge 3x more for weddings vs gig photography bc irs so much more demanding and the editing generally takes me 16-22h. I know I’m a slow editor but music photos I can generally run through pretty quickly and upload them in a drive account.
whereas weddings I’m doing a 2nd and 3rd pass; curating them, going through and then making them in an album (I’m so slow at this ;-; like it takes me at least 4h if not longer), hiring out a 2nd body or sometimes a spesific lens depending on the couple. Sometimes I’ve gotten a second shooter, also I need to travel sometimes a lot further to the wedding (sometimes interstate), also they’re much longer 8-16h vs like 3h.
So yea I feel pretty justified charging 3x as much and I actually quit doing weddings cause the stress got to me so badly.
Blurry photos are a style of photo taking. But i probably wouldn't do those or offer them for wedding photos.
However, there's a difference between purposely blurry pix and accidentally blurry pix. They're supposed to have a single, non-blurry focal point.
I agree with you about the first one - their prices and portfolio are available to look through before booking them. If you don't like the price or their style, you dont have to choose them. Now, if the blurry "style" choices or price were hidden until the day you receive your photos, that would be a different story.
I do wanna have WORDS with the person complaining about the photos "being in someone's backyard." My cousin chose to have his wedding in my aunt and uncle's, his parents', backyard, because we'd just learned my aunt's cancer was terminal. They have a lovely backyard, with a big pond, and it was a nice little rustic ceremony because it was sentimental and he wanted to have it there because his mom loved that yard, but it is very clearly a backyard. To think of that woman being so rude about something that may've been sentimental- or hell, all they could've afforded? So gross.
That being said, that poor bride from the second part. What a mess.
I feel like the person didn’t explain it correctly. I suck at photos and have a friend who is great at them, we can take a photo of the same thing at it will look different. The photo she showed as example don’t look professional imo - it’s like something your friend would take in your backyard - I wouldn’t pay 8k for something like that
Many people have been responding to that by saying that amateur photos should be distinguishable from professional photos.
Professional photographers use composition, depth-of-field, lighting, and angle of the shot to make a beautiful photo in any setting. Those skills and techniques are what differentiate the level of quality you expect from a professional photographer.
The person critiquing the backyard and bathroom photos articulated herself poorly. What she meant was that those photos look amateur - like her 12-year-old could have e taken them. There was no artistic use of depth-of-field or angle or composition. They didn't look like professional photos.
Society would be better off if there was a limit to our daily internet usage.
There's definitely a niche market out there for those kind of blurry, out of focus photos, but I can't imagine it's a very big one. This is why portfolio's are so important and why you need to be carefully curating them. If this photographer had a few more weddings under their belt and showed off that they *can* do blurry or special interest photos, but have a majority of your standard wedding snap shots, I don't think people would be having as much of a problem. But when you combine poorly staged, blurry photos, and a price tag of 8.5k as a starting fee? You are definitely not going to reach any market or curate a good business environment.
However, no matter how much you dispute the situation, that doesn't mean you have the right to go after them IRL. You can criticize the work and her prices all you want, but the people using this as an opportunity to be mean and spiteful to the people behind the scenes and not their content, they're just spineless dicks.
The second story I feel for the bride and groom. I like her comments because they're funny
Oooh I've been waiting for you to cover these yay!!
Unrelated but I've been here since you were around 50k and seeing you so close to 500k makes me so proud. Kuddos to you ❤
With the first one... I feel like they'd have a point if she hid the blurry photos from public and what you got wasn't exactly what you expected. She's charging what she wants, she obviously gets work, and she's not lying about the quality of her photography. If people want to pay her that much, then hell, you go girl.
She's not getting hate for being overpriced. She's getting hate because her entire channel is built on shaming people who can't afford her - and her work is amateur.
@@ThatRedhedd I don't see any shaming here, just an awkward "welp" type post. She can charge whatever she wants, amateur or otherwise.
I love all your drama videos. The drama Tik Toks usually end up on my FYP, but I scroll by and wait for you to give me the play by play in few days. 😂
To answer your question about the wedding rings, it's just a matter of preference and taste between the photographer and the bride and groom. Sometimes they will discuss a shot list where they include things like pictures of the wedding rings or the dress /veil.
The wife and I eloped and had a party with everyone back at home, been together for over 20 years so it’s not the wedding that makes the day it’s the person your marrying
I REALLY feel for wedding photographers, dealing with brides and grooms on THEIR day, has to be a total nightmare. Personally, I believe if you have work done then you have a right to talk about the work provided. I completely agree we don't know what these brides and grooms wanted. I also agree if they weren't what was wanted, the photographer never would've showcased poor work. I have known a few brides who had unusual requests. One of my cousins wanted the entire wedding album in a yellowish tint to make it appear aged. I knew another bride who wanted the photographer to make her appear tan, thinner, and perfect in ALL of her pictures. And more than you can imagine requests on removing certain people from their pics. Having worked at a resort, and friends with the photographer, the requests never ceased to amaze me LOL! We even had one bridezilla who wanted all the employees at the resort to wear HER colors LOL! For the record we didn't but we did pin ribbons on our uniforms.
If the photographer likes the photo, it will likely end up in their portfolio regardless of whether the client liked it or not. The majority of pictures taken for my engagement and wedding shoots are just awful, some are flat-out embarrassingly bad, but the photographer loved them and tried to get more even when we told her we didn't like how certain poses she insisted on during the engagement shoot turned out.
You won't see our opinions of her work or professionalism anywhere near her business online either because 1) lack of opportunity at the time, and 2) awkwardness around her being a member of a parent's church.
Clients can fully hate their photos and experience. That doesn't mean the photographer won't still use them for promotion. (She posted many of the embarrassing pics from our engagement shoot on her Facebook page at the time. Nothing we could do about it.)
@@clockside I am SO sorry that is beyond horrible. I positively hate when "experts" decide they know better. It really is about YOU and what you want, not what the photographer thinks is aesthetic. It should be about capturing and preserving memories, not building a portfolio!
Subbed! Also... composition is EVERYTHING. Any venue can shine with the right photog.
As someone who's in the art community but on a different medium than photography- if there's anything you learn is you might not like someone's prices but there's ALWAYS going to be someone who's willing to pay them for artists. What puts me off from other artists is the AUDACITY they have to shame not only potential clients for 'being out of their price range' and act smug about it. Hey, it's AWESOME you can charge people whatever amount you want, but not everyone is willing to spend that much and it says a lot more about the artist than the client with how they handle it. But also, you better damn well make it worth while for your prices and your skill because uhhh, just cause you in theory CAN charge someone 8k for your work, doesn't mean it's quality. And boasting about it when you can see their work, just makes you look like you scammed someone who didn't know better or didn't know how to say no... First lady's photos deadass look like they were taken on someone's phone while they were waiting for the event to actually start...
Doesn't of course excuse the harassment and threats to herself and her family at the end of the day, but Jesus sweetheart please take some critique. That work makes me feel like someone hired an amateur photographer to help at their wedding so they could use it for their assignment credits for their class...
I’ve been watching your videos literally all damn day. I can’t stop. Pls help
I was about to start doing my skin care routine before going to bed and i was missing a video of yours to accompany me while i do it.
Thank you 😂😂
Markie I really enjoy that you stuck by your differing opinion while everyone else was ragging on her. It’s refreshing to see a drama channel take a different stance and I really enjoyed it bc I agree with you! Subbing after this
It was the way she mocked the people who came to her with a low number that bothered me. Of course she can charge whatever she wants, but when she acts like that? Without even saying they were rude, or pushy or anything? JUST that they could only afford $2000? Thats awful. I've lived in LA county, and the snobby elitism is unreal. Even clerks will curl their lip at you if you come to the counter with only clearance items. The elitism in southern california is so awful. It would have cost her absolutely nothing to NOT put those people on blast for having a budget. They weren't trying to offend her. People are going too wild with the hate tho; even snobby people don't deserve this level of vitriol, her child definitely doesn't
My nephew took better pictures at his cousin's wedding. And he's only 10 years old.
It’s not that hard to just go “I don’t think I like this artists style, I won’t pay for this one” and move tf on
You're right. The online behavior of even adults has been increasingly unhinged. It's because of the example set by a president who spent 4 years saying the most ignorant, rude, socially unacceptable, immature, and harmful things on a public stage. He made this behavior seem acceptable.
It's definitely super common at least here in the US for wedding photographers to take staged photos of wedding-related items. At my wedding, the photographer hung my dress from a rafter in the bridal suite while I was getting my hair and makeup done. Came out super cool. They give it all back right after ;-)
I'm a photographer and editor, this made me cringe
From a fellow non connoisseur of the art of photography i want for Charlotte Dobre to cover this drama. She did photography for a while, even weddings. So i want to hear a professional opinion in this because from a normal person it's kinda meh 😂😂😂
One thing I will say, though that I don’t think has really been taken into account is, it’s also what the bride and groom want like photos of boots or something like that might be something that they want the blurry photos taken deliberately might be a part of a display or a series of photos, where it goes from a blurry and more focussed to a perfect photo the problem is you never know I think the prices are a little bit crazy but factoring in the editing time the full days work potentially they’re being more than one person doing it it somewhat makes sense. That being said, I would never pay that much money personally, but if those photos made the bride and groom, happy, then that’s truly what matters at the end of the day.
As someone who does photography, it's hard to know what was discussed prior to a job - It's not something I do full time, I prefer pet photography, but have done a few weddings for friends, mostly to save them money, and hopefully give them photos they enjoy at a fraction of the cost, or often charging nothing for a close friend. I tell people upfront that I prefer doing a more candid style approach to photography, while I won't object to posed photos, especially traditional family ones at a wedding, most of what I like to shoot is as if I'm a fly on a wall. Getting a great candid shot and someone saying they had no idea I was taking a photo is my goal. I've also had so many 'test shots' end up being a favorite.
The skin editing is just lazy. No excuse for the excessive manipulation to the face, etc... there is an art to retouching skin, and while programs have brought in features to make it easier, I still use my old tried and true method of skin retouching, which usually involves blowing up a photo and going over every pixel to color correct anything, leaving skin texture and features intact (unless client wants something removed), but less is more when it comes to editing faces especially. Despite what Instagram may show you - I've found most people prefer to look natural in their photos. Harsh sunlight, shadows, ect... noon weddings, all make for difficult lighting situations, but an experienced photographer will know how to work with it, or have the proper items to bounce, reflect, or fill in light when necessary.
Brides - a cloudy, overcast day is your friend for great photos!
As a wedding vender myself, so many factors go into creating prices. The style right now is those blurry photos (I’m not a huge fan) but it’s what clients are interested in. Your correct in the fact that the clients seek out venders based on there galleries so they know that style they want and they will pay for it. Plus it’s a common thing for clients to reach out for prices even though they are published on your personal website. I can totally see how that came off like ‘you can’t afford me’ but it can feel a little silly at times cause you pay for a website, with your info and prices posted for anyone to see anytime! But clients will take the more effort to send a email or enquirer. I would never post something like that cause it always hurts my heart when I get stuff like that.
$8500 is absolutely insane
I am a professional photographer. Photography is an art vorm, people pay what they think its worth.
She's not getting hate for being overpriced. She's getting hate because her entire channel is built on shaming people who can't afford her - and her work is amateur.
Sorry but if you think there's ANY CHANCE that she's making 8k for any gigs, which she claims is just her baseline, then I'm not buying your claim. No skilled photographer is unable to identify which of their pictures display those skills. She obviously chose which pictures went on her own website and they're straight up embarrassing. That amount is just what she fabricated in anticipation of all the attention she fully knew she'd attract for being a B. More people will likely have things to say about her and they won't be good!
You take photos and edit them, you’re not saving the world 😂
@@ThatRedhedd i absolutely hate that and clearly missed that part. Some amateurs are good, some professionals are in my opinion embarrassing - and yet have people loving their work.
Sadly some pick on price because 'then it must be good'' or 'oh thats a decent price'' and get bad quality. thats more what i tried to say
@@Lindseyisloony im not claiming anything about her price. i have seen people pay ridiculous prices for pictures that are on technical level absolutely trash. and yet they were over the moon with the pictures. some will pay hundreds of euros for a painting which i think is ridiculous. that's more the few i tried to share.
First situation is a classic example that we see daily on the internet these days of people who have nothing better to do than to hate honestly abit pathetic, especially the death threats.
Situation 2 was defiantly lazy editing, as the legend that is Markie says, this is a wedding, if any artistic job should be taken seriously it is a wedding day photoshoot.
Thanks for the videos mate!
You're right. The online behavior of even adults has been increasingly unhinged. It's because of the example set by a president who spent 4 years saying the most ignorant, rude, socially unacceptable, immature, and harmful things on a public stage. He made this behavior seem acceptable.
1:34 the weird out of focus photos are oddly a huge wedding photo trend right now. It apparently dates back basically to the inception of photography because suddenly you could get images that exactly reflected real life but then artists went “we don’t want that” and they started taking intentionally out of focus “painterly” type photos as a way experiment with the art form.
I’m not saying I like it, I just was really boggled by the trend and found out why it’s a thing and thought I’d give a little explanation for anyone else curious. Fads come and go in photography just like any other art form and this seems to be in right now.
Eta: it should look artistic and I don’t think the colour one Markie shows looks artistic at all, it just looks unintentionally blurry, that’s not really the trend.
Exactly. There's a difference between purposely blurry pix and accidentally blurry pix. They're supposed to have a single, non-blurry focal point.
The bathroom photo is a _candid._ Of the bride getting ready in, obviously, the bathroom. They wanted a candid of her getting ready, and that's where she chose to get ready. Whats special is that the bride gets to see a nice photo of that moment, and their potential client base sees that they'll go above and beyond to 'capture special moments'.
There's a way to take a candid photo and frame it artistically. The setting doesn't matter - the composition of the photo, depth-of-field and lighting do. Professional candid photos shouldn't look like they could have been taken by a 10-year-old.
Yea…but no… it’s not good.
If she took two steps to the left she could have stopped the brides head from intersecting with the walk and it would have created more contrast / framed her way better. I’d also maybe have used a more telephoto lens and shot at a lower fstop; as the compression will create more of a frame around her. Same with a lower fstop tho it is a little more like “this is standard”.
Other thing is I would have probably cropped higher or angled myself differently as the brides stomach on the counter could be deemed unflattering