Something Disturbing Happened To These Two Maxis Families (Sims 2, Blightate)
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- In my corrupted sims 2 neighbourhood only 2 Maxis households appeared in The Sims bin - the Roseland and Crittur families. I assumed they generated normally, but after noticing something off in SimPE recently, I realised I'd assumed wrong. In this video I figure out what happened to those households.
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Timestamps:
00:00-04:18 Intro in SimPE
04:19-17:49 Testing and Experimenting
17:50-18:58 Time to Dance - Hry
Your save files should be in a museum
I did actually upload the neighbourhood to google drive since some people asked lol. There are two versions one is blank with no lots/Sims created and another is the story version I use in my videos:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kcSQaSy0vfyC33FLPyMUEu0xQ-OsX3h7?usp=sharing
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GLeXWHIvRm5TMjgRf8ZtMzDDxXq4SvqT?usp=sharing
@@CalipersandTongs If they are as fricked up as yours I'm interested 👀
The corruption wont spill onto the entire game? Because I'm not in a mood to reinstall the entire thing 😂
It won't have all of the experiments that I've done on CZcams like messing around with the Veronaville and Strangetown Sims, or the Sims who look like pets but act like Humans (like Garfield,) but it will have the messed up Roseland + Crittur households, the weird pet Sims in the adoption pool, and basically all of the corrupted pets that look like Humans but act like pets (like all the ones in my earliest videos on this hood.) I'm pretty sure that this corruption will be limited to the neighbourhood so long as you don't move any Sims from this hood to other hoods (but doing that causes hood corruption either way.) I'm hesitant to say that 100% though just in case lol I think it's probably better to be safe if you're worried, and also back up hoods first, but as I understand it game corruption is harder to get and mostly comes from messing around with universal Sims like the Grim Reaper.
"And she's been MERGED with Sarah Crittur!"
My brain: Ed.. Ward....
lol yeah that did spring to mind when I saw that.
@@CalipersandTongs This series has inspired me to try streaming the Sims 2 and to try and make my own corrupted neighborhood.. Somehow... Only took me over an hour to get OBS to show the Sims 2 8D (Yeah that was stressful...)
cool :) yeah it is a pain setting things up in obs initially (and then switching between options for different games.) I couldn't figure out how to get it to work with game capture since I play in windowed mode so have just been using windows capture, but then a couple of times like with parts of this video I accidentally recorded using screen capture because I have to use screen capture for SimPE, so you can see activate windows in the corner of the screen :P
@@CalipersandTongs I can help with that? I think you can create different scenes that you can save. Unless you mean it's just remembering to switch between them. Then I can't help there XD
OH! Also! You CAN capture windowed games. Just, go to properties, and on one of the drop down menu's there should be "Capture specific window"
(Also, how do you get the Sims 2 windowed mode to work? I can't do it.)
Oh yeah I meant I forgot to switch lol, but yeah I tried the specific window thing before but weirdly it never would work with The Sims 2 for me. I think to get it to work in window mode I just added -w to the end of the shortcut target like if you right click and select properties.
The guy literally say: *intense club penguin dance*
YOU WERENT KIDDING LOLL. Depiesse's face portrait updating over and over is something out of a horror movie. this game is such a beautiful mess.
This is extremely late, but regarding Brandi Broke's pregnancy, her child will always be a male clone of herself as her pregnancy was created using the tombstone of L&D after Skip died.
Thanks yeah I knew there was something weird going on with her pregnancy but couldn't remember the details for some reason.
does it clone the personality too? i’ve noticed that unborn baby broke is often a libra (romance sim) when he grows up
@@mimigigihere Not sure, but maybe. He always ends up a Libra in my game too
@@mimigigihere i think personality is random because he turned out to be an aquarius in my game
That's why he's always cuter than his brothers
The 2 dislikes are from Cyd and Porthos
This is a programming mystery for sure... oh god, I'm genuinely wondering what went wrong. This seems to be a unique exception.
Edit: btw this constantly changing portrait thing is a sign of corrup... oh... yeah.
I thought the constantly changing portrait is just because they're being reset over and over?
The mod "No Sim Loaded" apparently caused this for one of my sims once, I freaked out and looked into it, and after I removed the mod it stopped.
btw the spinning is just them getting errors. if youd have boolprop testing cheats on, you would get the cancel reset delete error message constantly, and without the cheat enabled it just resets all the time causing the spinning. since they try to reset themselves because they are glitching, they just keep doing it because reseting something that’s glitching so bad doesn’t work.
"It's a perfect creation, fused to the core. There's nothing to separate them now."
- Shou Tucker
Most likely the dog’s files must have attached to those specific sims so the game thinks they’re dogs
yeah I guess because the working theory is the game corrupted on creation because it failed to create/load the subhood sims, that means there's a load of free-floating neighborhood ids with dangling relationships and wants and memories that a load of townies attached themselves to?
Weird coincidence is that:
De piese sounds like "de dog" in Polish language
Warren & Shenene: 🔄🔄🔄🔄
Luckily, this never happened in my game, I added the Crittur family to the Specter's household because Ophelia wanted pets and Sarah was a dog and looked like she should look like. I think yours is a bad case of game corruption caused by other "experiments" you tried in your videos xD
Oh yeah this neighbourhood was badly corrupted somehow lol but it was broken basically from the beginning before I started experimenting because something went wrong with the creation of the hood, so after that I just thought I may as well experiment since it's a lost cause lol. Not much has happened since the initial corruption but I have noticed some weird wants popping up lately that are invisible and a lot of Sims will have four of the same want which is invisible and if you hover it says about creating zombies which is funny.
idk how much playing with these corruptions would break the game but they would make for some interesting storytelling videos
After I noticed the crazy levels of corruption I did actually re-create the whole neighbourhood and a bunch of new Sims and built a story around it plus other supernatural stories. I've briefly mentioned some of the backstories of different households in other videos, but I haven't created a video that's specifically story based atm. I ended up making too many households really I think for that kind of video lol, but maybe one day I'll do a video on them and the neighbourhood story I came up with.
The only "weird" thing about Brandi's pregnancy is that she's giving birth to her clone. That's why he'll always be a boy no matter what. Unless you have mods
Ah yeah I couldn't remember exactly what it was when I made this video, just that I'd read something was off about it.
@@CalipersandTongs yeah they developers used the tombstone of L & D to do it since Skip is, ya know, aliven't
This happened to my Roseland family before! Cyd and the dog became one I guess this is why.
Ohh really? That's interesting. Did you notice any other corruption signs in that neighbourhood?
@@CalipersandTongs yes i adopted a pet and the police women who dropped them off was also a human/dog mix (twice this happened)
lmao they're doing the club penguin dance
Super interesting! Still learning a lot new things about Sims 2. I got Sarah's puppies multiple times in different neighborhoods and I never experienced corruption because of this. 🤔 I wonder why the devs did this... perhaps for the Crittur household it was not possible to separate real dogs as an own household, so they based them on Sim adults? But then I wonder why the same thing was done with the Roseland household, because there it makes no sence at all.
The sims wiki just says Sarah Crittur's puppies might have incomplete character data which is something that can lead to corruption but I'm not sure how that happened. The Ottomas family is also weird and if you don't have the seasons patch her twins will end up with a randomised dad for some reason.
The Roseland family is normally fine though but those families both ended up messed up in this particular neighbourhood because of the way the neighbourhood was corrupted so most of the Sims ended up getting deleted somehow when the subhoods generated and their incomplete data ended up spreading all over the place so Sims got merged together this is one of the few examples where I could figure out the exact Sims that were merged since with most of them it's not obvious though some have different genders and skin tones from what they usually have, but yeah I think in other neighbourhoods the Roseland's should be OK I don't think there's any corruption usually associated with that household unless something weird happens to your hoods.
@@CalipersandTongs OK, great. Thanks for explaining! 😊👍 That particular neighborhood has some serious issues - as you said. 😉
A pivot point is basically an origin point. So this would also be the original origin location for a Sim's rig (skeleton mesh). What I'm guessing has happened, is the pivot has corrupted, meaning the rig and mesh are messed up. (I assume this happened because a pet definitely has a different origin point to a Sim). Because of this, the Sim's data has no idea where it is on the XYZ coordinates, freaks out, and the error resets the Sim automatically. This means it's going through a constant error loop, unable to do any commands.
Why the Sims and pets merged, that might be the data numbers being the same in some way.
These are just guesses on my side, I've never looked into the Sims 2 technical side.
Yeah it definitely messes up the animations but it's just weird how messed up some of these Sims are to the point of constantly throwing errors, when other hybrid pet Sims in that hood are capable of more interactions in between the odd error here and there.
I put the dogs in a family, expecting to see their puppies...but it never happened. After watching this, I'm glad they didn't born.
The spinnings probably just a maxis sim thing or corruption bc one time I accidentally turned a sim into a dog via simpe and then changed him back and he’s completely normal now
Yeah some of them ended up so corrupted that they just throw out error messages constantly like these Sims, but then if boolprop is turned off the game just resets the Sim over and over so it looks like they're spinning lol.
This is some fullmetal alchemist shit
I had the spinning error when I accidentally downloaded an outdated version of Argon's Townie Block. I think I remember my friend who is a game developer saying it was something like a routing error and with my very limited knowledge of animation I think it might have something to do with the animations like you said. I can't even find anything about sims and pets fusing online lol
I saw someone in the comments say that they look like they were constantly resetting themselves and that's another thing I thought of, especially with the changing portraits.
Yeah I think the Sims were resetting themselves because if you turn boolprop on you can see the errors that keep coming up but if boolprop is off it just seems to reset them by default. Also yeah the pet/human thing is kind of rare it seems, but someone in the comments of one of my videos did experience a similar thing once but it was Sims that look like pets and act like Humans. I also found someone else talking about that on another site, weirdly from around the same time my neighbourhood corrupted and it was also the first time they'd experienced that, so I guess 2020 was the year of corruption lol. But again it was Sims that look like pets. I don't know why but I haven't managed to find anyone talking about Sims that look Human but act like pets or specific Sims merging though I imagine the Sim merging happens a lot with corruption.
5:25 "O-ohhh nooo, oh my god, okay, that's so messed up....."
*Proceeds to add fuel to fire releasing the critters*
No one:
Allie X: 16:47
I'm curious, did these corrupted sims have biographies? Also I wonder if checking Warren's relationships in SimPE or looking in the uneditable section would help you find out what happened to Cyd Roseland.
I had a look and neither of them have biographies so that didn't copy over either. Warren has a relationship with Joseph Ng the downtown host (who I think is dead in this neighbourhood now not sure if his grave is still around,) it's a pretty low relationship but Joseph's relationship with Warren is much higher. It says on the wiki Cyd and Porthos are supposed to have pack flags, I'm not sure how to find them in SimPE since all the boxes are Human relationships, though it might show up in game. It's possible that Joseph and Cyd were merged I guess 🤔 I will check an earlier version of the neighbourhood a bit later and see if he shows up as Cyd in that household.
i love seeing this series so much. seeing your vids in my recommended makes my day
So if a human can be treated by the game like a dog, can a dog be treated by the game like a human?
Ah yeah that's possible too. There weren't any like that in my corrupted hood though as a result of the corruption only Human Sims behaving like cats/dogs at least as far as I know. I mean there were a bunch of kittens and puppies that I never ended up looking at in game that have surnames based on other Sims which I should probably check up on at some point (like Terrano,) but I think it might be a coincidence. But I noticed later you can change the species pretty easily in SimPE as well. So I have some other videos experimenting with that, though mostly with cats acting like Humans (I made a Garfield Sim and most of those videos focus on him since he was the most entertaining to me lol.) There are some dogs behaving like Human Sims in my video about corrupted hybrid pet ghosts though.
My wild guess would be that Sarah's character was deleted and the uni student got created with the same ID as Sarah, therefore Sarah's data is now pointing to the uni student's character. The beauty and horribleness of pointers in code
16:47 If you give him an aspiration since it's missing, he will probably stop spinning LOL.
Oh I did actually try that but it's not in the video I don't think, I gave him the fortune aspiration but he couldn't be satisfied and the spinning continued 😂If you turn on boolprop you can actually see tons of errors so basically the spinning is caused by the Sim constantly being reset I think, but you can't see the error messages without boolprop. Resetting them does nothing either. I feel like it's related to some kind of animation thing but I don't really know.
Man I love content like this
The best ending ever, I mean it 😅
They weren't broken after all, they just couldn't stop dancing 😆
Idk why but I love your content, cant wait for the new videos!!!!
The neighborhood is blighted.
I think the spinning is the sims repeatedly being reset because their portraits are repeatedly being reset/changing. I don't know how you would go about fixing that though but idk maybe you already figured it out 😅
I didn't really figure out how to fix them properly lol, after I made Warren Human I think there are a bunch of other settings that are wrong and need fixing because he was still very broken I haven't looked into it too much though.
why is this happening to you? In my game they are regular dogs..
Basically (as far as I know,) something went wrong while generating this custom neighbourhood that led to corruption, so most of the Sims that normally appear in the family bin or in the sub neighbourhoods weren't created. These were the only two families that were in the sim bin at the start, and their character data was merged with some random university dormies. I'm not sure what went wrong in the first place that led to this happening but yeah the neighbourhood is just very broken. It's not even just these weird hybrids but many other expansion pack things don't happen like the garden club won't come round after you move a household in. I'm guessing the problem began with the secret sub hoods that generate when you first load neighbourhoods (there are several of them for later expansion packs and they add families to the family bin.) Then after that something else must have gone wrong in generating the other subhoods like Bluewater and the uni hoods since there were no playable Sims moved in there.
Yoooo this is really cool
YES okay shareena/Sheena? I've forgotten lol,, when she was generated she must have somehow taken the place of sarah critter? I guess sarah got deleted at the same time everyone else seemingly got deleted, so shareena got generated into her neighbourhood id and inherited her relationships and I guess pregnancy??
also I'm guessing she would never give birth because she's stuck spinning, but I do wonder if shareenas litter would have incomplete character data because sarahs does, but then again I don't know if youd even be able to tell in a corrupted save XD
Yeah the really broken ones won't stop throwing errors so I couldn't test out what happens if she gave birth, though perhaps that's for the best haha.
2:52
That thumbnail looks so disturbing
Unsure about what caused the original issue but the spinning is from a lack of aspiration, at least in human form, maybe theres a hidden pets aspiration in simPE?
Oh really? Hmm if I look in SimPE it says his aspiration is fortune now I've set Warren back to Human but he keeps spinning so I think something else is probably going on. Danny Crittur who was behaving normally as a dog has his aspiration set to 'nothing' but if I look through some other neighbourhood pets a cat that seemed normal has the grow up aspiration so that's weird, but it seems most dogs have the nothing aspiration. Although a bunch of puppies in the neighbourhood have the grow up one too (though the cat wasn't a kitten and still had that.) So yeah not sure I think 'nothing' is supposed to be the normal setting though for pets.
the end is EVERYTHING
Reminds me of the sim I turned into a dog one time
Honestly, such things just didn't happen in my game. Those households are just fine, I guess. This is terrifying to look at. Really would reinstall it at this point or let it go... 😂😂😂
Wait the Crittur familu corrupts stuff?
Ah well, HoodChecker probably fixed it by now :|
In a non corrupted neighbourhood if you let Sarah Crittur have her puppies then they corrupt the neighbourhood because they have incomplete character data, but you can use the sim blender and similar mods to terminate the pregnancy to avoid that. They may have fixed this in a later patch/expansion like they did with the Ottomas family though.
this is yonks old but if you get the clean stealth hoods by meetmetotheriver, I haven't had any problems with her puppies!
What's is this a new way to identify theirself as Furry? Werewolves weren't enough in The Sims 2? lol
Crying laughing
I play with Roseland family and they aren't bugged on my computer. Man works perfectly like human. Dog isn't corrupted. Dog critter family works perfectly fine like ordinary dogs. This is bug in your game and not mine.
Yeah this is just specific to this particular neighbourhood because it became badly corrupted. A bunch of Sims got deleted somehow and then their data got merged with other Sims and other weird things happened. Those families are usually fine, although I've read that Sarah Crittur's unborn puppies have incomplete character data but it's fixed in the ultimate collection of the game.